Mort Cinder - horror-adventure from Argentina masters Breccia and Oesterheld
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Awesome comic! Just a bit of context: this was a "paycheck job". Breccia needed money to pay for her wife medicine so Oesterheld cook up this series. It was originally published in "Misterix", an adventure centric magazine for teens. He used his owned students as models for reference. Horacio Lalia, another great comic book artist, was his model for Mort Cinder. And he used himself for the Ezra Winston character. He didn´t use photos, he just took basic quick drawings/notes of the model and then work the rest on the page. The trees of the cemetery sequence, from the Lead eyes story, was done by pouring white ink over the blacks and then blowing softly to create the trees and branches.
His Lovecraft comics are incredible. He was really able to draw the unthinkable.
Q grande el maestro lalia y tantos otros que se pueden nombrar... Larga vida a la historieta.. Larga vida al dibujo. Saludos
Breccia is brilliant! Argentina has this superb tradition in comics that you should discover: from Patoruzú and Mafalda (actually, all of Quino is great) to Lino Palacios, Divito and Fontanarrosa for comic strips. In the more narrative side of comics you have the work of writers such as Robin Wood, Carlos Trillo, Ray Collins and the other works of Oesterheld. The art of Oswal, the first Hugo Pratt, Jorge and Arturo Perez del Castillo, Enrique Breccia, Carlos Meglia, Alcatena, Mandrafina, Calvi, there are lots of good cartoonists in Argentina! Hope you could enjoy them all. Love the channel, btw!
My bank account every time a Kayfabe video drops: “Oh sh*t, here we go again.”
Yeah and because of the Kayfabe effect you cant just save up to get the thing their showing, it's now or never.
PERRAMUS is a great Breccia release that Fantagraphics put out as well! A monster tome, with a totally different look than the Mort Cinder stuff. Super washy and weird.
Other great Argentine artists you should seek: Domingo Mandrafina, Lito Fernández.
Happy to see how Argentina's comics are read outside the country and seeing the influence they've had. Stuff like Eternaut and Mort Cinder are still to this day very popular here. There are dozens of cheap editions you can still buy on news stands. I wanted to add two things, Breccia was actually from Uruguay, but he did indeed worked and lived in Argentina. Also, about Breccia's use of reference and models: he is sort of recognized for using other comic book artists and himself as model for the characters. In Mort Cinder, the old man, Winston I think is called, is actually based on Breccia himself, so he would just have a mirror by his drawing table and copy his own expressions. Love the channel, hope to see more argentine comics in the future, and maybe some Corto Maltese by Hugo Pratt!
Since that time you guys flipped through some Breccia pages on Heavy Metal I've been waiting for this moment: my favorite coinesseurs commenting my favorite artist. Thanks for highlighting some of south american cartoonists. Ed hit the spot when mentioned Warren, specially Ortiz. And Jim, I took inking classes from a brazilian horror comic book master who knew the Breccia techniques, It´s true, he often used razorblades to ink . And if I could add something, the 300 reference is not the strongest link to Miller, if you guys search for the Poe and Lovecraft adaptations we can see that Miller got his Sin City style not from Muñoz as people usually say, but from Breccia.
I love when they introduce me to comics I've never heard of before.
There’s a video of Breccia drawing with a razor blade. It was fascinating
Muy buena reseña, que bueno que en USA estén editando el trabajo de Alberto Breccia y Héctor Germán Oesterheld y que ustedes lo disfruten y lo valoren.
Yessss…. Breccia, un maestro !!!!!
You were wandering about what type of magazine was published? In Argentina, we have a great tradition of comic book´s magazine gear to different audiences (children, adult, etc.)
Mort Cinder first appearance was a magazine with “historietas” for adults (comics in Spanish), call MISTERIX in the 60´s.
Cinder's face is the one of Breccia's friend and assistant, Horacio Lalia, while that of Ezra Winston is actually Alberto Breccia's own as an old man.
(twitter.com/fumettologica/status/456471348961742848/photo/1 )
Sadly, yesterday, we lost one of the great cartoonist in Argentina: QUINO (1932 - 2020).
This comics education is costing me a small fortune. Keep up the great work, guys.
Lol we've all been there but trust me if you are picking them wisely they are WORTH IT!
Wow, what a coincidence. I just found an omnibus copy of The Eternaut by Oesterheld and Francisco Solano Lopez at a street sale. Nice crazy lady let it go for 5.00 cdn. Haven't read it all but the art is stellar and the story is pretty compelling sci-fi. Nice to learn more about the South American comic scene during this time.
René Goscinny also lived in Argentina and thats why Obelix pants are like the Argentinian flag
Obélix compañero de Astérix está basado en" upa "hermano de patoruzu
Great video! I really love Breccia's work!
13:56 Breccia would use his friends and even his assistant Horacio Lalia (who then became a magnificent comic artist himself) as models. Moreover, Breccia took from Lalia (aging Lalia's look, of course) Mort Cinder's face.
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Mort Cinder is one my favorite works of Breccia. Great review, I very glad to see this volume.
Beautiful stuff. It’s been on my list to pick up for a bit now. I just bought Breccia’s PARRAMUS from Fanta the other week, I’m and it’s incredible so far. Glad to hear a little about his technique because each panel seems to have some incredible texture that I just don’t think I’ve ever seen before.
Way to cover Breccia.
The Eternaut is an interesting piece as well.
Krigstein came from somewhat of a fashion drawing background, or in the very least from a lifestyle "magazine" illustration school. Breccia probably had some influence from this direction too, but maybe from a more naturalistic school of anatomical study and expression.
So, you guys got me thinking now about what I would recommend that is top shelf cartooning... Max Andersson's Death and Candy four issue mini-series (much of this has not been collected anywhere else that I know of... uniquely humorous), and 100 Demons by Lynda Barry. I think this is her most solid and compelling work. I loved every page of it.
This channel just gets better and better. They were already great, but the last entries has been about Moebius, Breccia, Al Columbia (totally lost my mind when it came out), etc. Just great, GREAT stuff. Keep doing great things, guys!
Mort Cinder's been on my radar for a little while. Looks absolutely gorgeous. Definitely want to pick up a copy!
Omg I’m dreaming! You guys talking about Mort! I’m from Argentina this is amazing!!!!!
Bruno premiani (Doom Patrol) come from Argentina too. René goscinny (Astérix) lived and work in argentina. José Luis García López. Too many start in argentina comic magazines
Welcome to Breccia´s world!!! Wasn´t he amazing?!!!
Mort Cinder is the best classic Argentine comic, but it is always overshadowed by El Eternauta.
I discovered your channel recently and I am fascinated guys!
Greetings from Argentina!
Ojalá editaran de forma decente en nuestro país, al menos los clásicos.
Al menos Doedytores nos dio muchos clásicos en forma de libro, pero sería maravilloso que tengan las ediciones de lujo que se merecen Mort Cinder, Sherlock Time, etc... Hay una edición en inglés del Eternauta que es impresionante...!
René Goscinny also lived in Argentina.
The antique dealer is Breccia himself, it´s a self portrait.
Mort Cinder was published for the first time on Misterix, an adult oriented comic magazine.
You guys gotta go on Sergio Toppi next.
Cheers!
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Hermoso libro, gran edición de Fantagraphics! Saludos desde Argentina, muchachos!
Hope you'll tackle Perramus: The City and Oblivion too!
Carlos trillo was a fantastic writer from Argentina he worked with a lot of Argentine artists
One of my favorite artists ..always packs a punch .
as you guessed the faces were tooked from other people known in Argentina, the Antiquarian, is Breccia Himself and Mort Cinder is the face of Horacio Lalia , he is another artist from argentina, famous for adapting Lovecraft Stories , and a work with oesterheld called Nekrodamus
Great episode!!!! Thanks Jim for putting this on my radar
Is there a thing called the "pre-Cartoonist Kayfabe Effect"..? I just read this over the weekend and found it to be an inspiring work of art. Alberto Breccia's line work, composition and use of shadow is top-shelf! Thanks for providing such an in-depth review!
You should check out, if don't already, an spanish cómic called Hombre (Man). It's about a post apocalyptic world and men trying their best to survive by all means. It was published in the 80s I think and the drawing and storytelling are amazing.
Beautifull, I trully love Breccia's art
I’ve been waiting for this episode to drop!
Small note, Breccia was from Uruguay, not Argentina. He did almost all of his work for Argentinean authors and Argentinean publishing companies, but he was born in Urugauy. His family moved to Argentina when he was 3 years old, and later in his life he was granted Argentinean citizenship.
Great!
Checkout Perramus its also been edited by Fantagraphics www.fantagraphics.com/products/perramus-the-city-and-oblivion
Alberto Breccia is the G.O.A.T.
these are the vids i crave from you guys
These contrast or complimentarities of black and whire just just mind blowing, how about sergio toppi
I’d love to see some of the original pages from this... you guys seen Perramus by Breccia? That’s another level in composition and experimental ink work!
great vid. I wanted to know more about the plots though.
Kudos for reading a classic!
Beautiful. Thanks.
There is an Eternaut Netflix series in the works.
Yes! The Eternaut!
Breccia is a master. Definitely worth checking out for the art alone. Additionally, I've always heard his name pronounced as Breck-ee-ah not Bresh-ee-ah. Not sure which one is correct. Anyone have any clarity?
Gis son Enrique Breccia draw great cómics.
Looks great. Just ordered the book!
very very interesting....i love it!
Will the mailbags be returning? I liked seeing all the comics people sent and your reactions. Found some good reads through those episodes
Guys the other day i sent you a link on instagram for a comic called "Cazador". Its an Argentinian comic from the 90s that you should check out. The art is sick
I love Cazador. - Jim
@@CartoonistKayfabe Would be cool to see an episode about him on the channel one day. I offer my translation services if you are unable to find copies in english. Theres a lot of slang on those books :")
Have you guys read New York: Year Zero?
YES !!!!!!
Imagine if it would released in U.S. at 1980 , how would we speak today about comic breakthrough on realism
not only that, the original publication is from 1962!
BRECCIA AND OESTERHELD = GODS
Yes!!! So sick!!! ( :
Perramus
Niiiice!
Mandrafina Solano lopez Eduardo Risso Leandro Fernandez tomas girollelo Marcelo frusin
Please do Carlos Trillo Borderline.
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