I've never heard of this before, but when you said it was argentinian I knew it would be good stuff. Those guys know comics. Greetings from a Brazilian brother
Wow this is incomparable in quality to North American '50s comics. Nothing we in the States produced was even close to this level of narrative complexity until at least the '80s!
Not likely due to a lack of talent but due to market forces and perceptions. For a lot of non western countries visual novels seemed to be a more widely consumed format, not just picture books for children.
i think that unfair, didnt the US have the Comics Code Authority at the time? you couldnt write stuff like this even if you wanted to. USA had some amazing horror comics before that and they all had to be shut down or dumbed down because of the CCA.
DrewLSsix: what exactly you mean by "non western"??? You are not equating US = West, right? Europe had many comics authors who are now considered literature (Hugo Pratt, Mobius, Vincente Segrelles, etc.). What's missing here is the US, not the "west" per se.
If you liked this book you should look up the adaptation of Lovecraft's works by Breccia, one of argentina's greatest illustrators. It's really odd to see a work so close to your national identity been discussed by an international audience. Thank you for the respect.
the alien invasion as a parallelism of the military regime, dictatotship, imposed by form is fantastic. The mental control ( media control ) the resist and more, just sublime
You know what's the best and most scariest kind of villain? The one that you never see in the story. It's not an evil emperor, a twirling mustache villain or a serial killer. It's a concept, a colective behind the shadows, a system, an ideology. The ones that never make a presence and we only see their henchman. They're lurking behind the shadows hidden from the main characters and planning everything behind the curtains. How do they look? How many are of them? They can be stopped? This is why I love The Ellos as antagonists: not only we never see how they are but we only know glimpses of their mentality and why they do what they do. They're the symbol of every empire trying to destroy and conquer another nation.
People back then may not know it, but Oesterheld was taking tropes that would been part of pop culture decades later. The collective hero that we see in The Walking Dead, for ex. We owe a lot of respect to Oesterheld and his work.
Thank you for that respectful review on Argentinian history. You have no idea how many people just don't care as little as to investigate well on what happened as you did. So thank you, man. And thank you for this review, This is my father's favourite comic and he is part of the reasons i like comics.
"In Buenos Aires it's rare to get a heavy snow out of nowhere". Huge understatement. It only snowed twice in known history: in 1918 and in 2007. And I wouldn't call the one from 2007 "heavy".
As an Argentine I have to say that Argentina has enormous talent and history regarding comics and animation. "For whom cares"Argentina was the first country to make an animated film The first known animated feature film was ElApóstol, made in 1917 by Quirino Cristiani He also directed two other animated feature films, including 1931's Peludópolis, the first feature length animation to use synchronized sound... (whom inspired walt disney).. we also have a 1990s cyberpunk series named cybersix. And yeah We made MESSI
You just made my day Chris, The Eternaut is like our Watchmen or Dark Knight Returns, it puts the bar really high for us in terms of writing and art, and put us on par with the others schools of comics in the world. I hope that thanks to this video it get all the recognition it deserves. Oesterheld forever!
As a Peruvian my favorite comics are the Argentinian ones are my favorite around the world. I have The Eternaut and something I have to say, even is strictly speaking Oesterheld is a social justice warrior (and not a twitter warrior) he is also a genius in his art. Something that activists that enter comics are not. In my country the Argentine comics from 60's to beginning of 90's are sought and treasured by readers from 30 and up.
@Jorge Campbell wow esos son antiguos, de hecho yo pensaba que eran (salvo Mafalda, claro) chilenos porque de niño los confundía con los Petete que también ponía historietas que, entonces no lo sabía, eran argentinas. Yo amo muchas de Robin Wood (sip, paraguayo pero con producción argentina) Dago, Nippur, Pepe Sánchez, Merlín, Savarese etc; de Ferrari me gustó Capellán, La Flor, Océano; de Ray Collins (un poeta!) Precinto 56 y El Cobra; de Oesterheld el Eternauta, el Loco Sexton, Ernie Pike y tantas historias autoconclusivas. Mis dibujantes favoritos son como un millón xP, Lalia, Arturo del Castillo, Mandrafina, Alcatena, Risso (que lo leí para Julio César), Lalia, todos los Breccia, Alberto Salinas y su papá José Luis Salinas. Sé que cometo varias injusticias olvidando muchas historias e historietistas. Saludotes.
@Jorge Campbell en Perú nos gustaba mucho Condorito de Pepo. Sobre todo en salas de espera, no me gusta lo que se hace de ahora pero me sigue gustando lo de antes, que me parece que no era humor para chicos. Sobre los títulos que mencionas, la verdad ni de niño me han llamado la atención tiras cómicas o historietas para niños. Creo que por eso aunque he oído de Hijitus lo leí y lo olvidé, de lo más antiguo que leí lo que más recuerdo una de José Luis Salinas, ambientada en el siglo XIX, en un mundo donde el invierno amenaza a quedarse, y otra de una adaptación literaria de unos nobles que pervierten a un sobrino pero lo rescata la tía. Siempre preferí leer aventuras de guerreros o detectives.
As an argentinian, I just wanted to comment on this old video to say that your brief recap on Argentina's political history was brilliant. You gave a well informed, succint and balanced summary.
The Eternaut doesn't depict the hero as an individual, but as a collective hero (Juan, Fava, Franco, etc). That's the main point regarding the characters and their actions and maybe the main difference regarding other comic books. Great video!
Nice episode, Chris. My local library has ONE copy, which is now on hold for me! Can't wait to read it, thanks for making me aware of such an awesome pirce of art. This is why I anticipate each new video. Your critiques and knowledge are impressive. More!....?
My name is Rodrigo, I'm from Argentina. Safe and sound in spanish is "sano y salvo". Maybe that's what you mean with Salvo meaning safe. Keep making awesome videos.
@@JoseLuisRodriguez-vd8uj Si. La forma correcta sería "salva"; pero al menos en argentina, salva tiene un sinónimo que seria "ficticio", así que yo creo que por eso le pusieron salvo.
But "sano y salvo" would be a idiomatic translation not a literal one, "safe" in Spanish is "seguro" (you could understand it as "salvo too) and "sound" in Spanish would be "sonido" like what you hear with your ears, at last we have "sano" healthy in English. The direct/literal translation would be then "salvo y sonando" but I guess anybody would understand you if you say that in any Hispanic country.
Great video Chris. I'm from Argentina and is so good to see one of our greatest comics in a channel like this. I recommend you the works of Alberto Breccia, huge influence of a lot of artists for decades.
@@Joaking91 you must be kidding.. you said that dictators can not be elected?? You know what a dictator means?? It does not have nothing to do with being elected or not. Check Maduro en Venenzuela.. he is not a dictator for you?? BTW.. socialism is the cancer of the world. There is not a single country in the world with economic growth or high quality of life being socialist, it does not matter its region or continent.. In addiction, you would not find any country in the world that applying capitalism (free market) is not growing or if it has a high level of capitalism since a while it should have a high quality of life. You have like 200 countries in the world, try to find only 1 example of any of those two cases to see if I am wrong, it should be easy for you, just 1 case in 400. Check any free market index to measure the level of capitalism, the ones higher in the table would be more capitalist and the ones in the bottom means they are less capitalist (more socialist).
Dammit, now i'm checkin amazon to buy this book. Seems like a great story and that cover needs to be in my collection! Thanks for another great comic tropes video!
Excellent video. As an Argentine, thank you for promoting the Argentine comic on your channel! I recommend Mort Cinder and Ernie Pike, two of the best works of Oesterheld and the tv series "German" about the life of HGO. Oh, a lot of the graffiti, it's with the face of a former president (Nestor Kirchner) instead of the face of Juan Salvo.
''Oh, a lot of the graffiti, it's with the face of a former president (Nestor Kirchner) instead of the face of Juan Salvo.'' Most people here call him the Chorronauta Eter/Chorro Chorro= Thief.
those graffitties were made by followers of Nestor Kirchner (many young people, youngs like those were killed in the dictatorship, the dictators that killed Oesterheld), some called those graffitties the Nestor-nauta. its because of his politics was also in benefit of social justice, like Oesterheld beliefs and fight
Wow, it's such a pleasing surprise to hear you talk about the great masterpiece from my country that is El Eternauta. I'm glad you've enjoyed it and recommend it to your wide audience.
As an Argentinian I feel proud of your review of this comic. So much love and emphasys editing and explaining the very important context I hope some day we can see a movie about it, maybe we can start a fan movement to make it real! Greetings form Chaco - Argentina
Wow such an interesting and tragic story and Im not just talking about the comic but also the author. It is really sad that so many people have to die for basically just their political and social beliefs.
@@Fran-pk6et Los Montoneros fueron unos terroristas lo mismo con la ERP y la triple A, mataron muchas personas (más de 600, entre civiles y militares). Espero que no estés defendiendo un grupo como este.
Alejandro Fortini buen intento, pero en ningún momento los montoneros o el ERP fueron calificados como terroristas por ningún archivo y por ende, un juicio de valor personal o de un partido interesado (ya sea articulos de clarin o la nación) son utilizables. No simpatizo con los montoneros, pero sí le quiero hacer algo de justicia a Oesterheld
(Francesco) Solano Lopez later was well known in the UK for 'Janus Stark' and 'Adam Etermo' as well as a ton of WW2 comics - he worked in UK comics from the 60's to the 90's
I guess I'll post the obligatory comment about how I just found your channel and have been bringing episodes. As a long time fan of the medium, your channel has simply been amazing to watch. I've been reading for over two decades, but you've opened my eyes to layers of depth that I've missed. Thanks so much for your hard work. Please keep it up and you'll always have a fan in me.
I never would have imagined that you have so many fans in my country, I thought I was the only one. Last week I bought Brat Pack after seeing your review
Thanks for sharing this comic book. Here in Argentina, people are usually either disinterested or unaware of the national comic book industry, another reason why this book it's so special, been so influential and ionic from a medium almost ignored. It make me happy every time I see that El Eternauta is shared around the world in different videos on the net,keeping it alive and giving a testament of the hard situation that ruled Arengina at that historical moment. So yeah, thank you for spreading the word!!!
Now that's a real classic! There used to be a graffiti of this comic book in my neighborhood but they painted over it last year, a true shame that was. I've lived my whole life in buenos aires and i've only seen snow once, and it was more like some type of slow rain than actual snow. Still, i consider myself lucky. The only two times it snowed are within 90 years of each other. I might not even live to see it happen again.
The good old 2008 snow... I think there was an old lady who lived through both times. I remember she said "The first time I couldn't go out and touch it because I was too young, and the second time I couldn't do that either, but because I was too old."
Francisco, He bought thousands of tractors from the United States that no one needed. He tried to start a jet fighter industry to compete with the United States. He backed a nazi refugee to create a cold fusion reactor that went nowhere.He spent so much money in so little time that the militar government that put him in place tried to overthrow him. All went downhill from there...
urafaget Yeah right, the guys that throwed literal bombs at the "Pink House" because they didn't like the president that was democratically elected were giving decent salaries to the poor and have had to invent a comunist threat to take over power were the good guys, suuure
I like how you just kinda riffed at the end. your "rambling" is very interesting, especially speaking off the cuff on your thoughts of what you researched and gained in making this episode. thank you for your knowledge and insight.
Argentinean here. Awesome video! Thank you for the respect and clarity when talking about this amazing title. Im always a little defensive when ppl from other backgrounds (non-latin american) talk about El Eternauta since it's not only iconic but a piece of our identity and history (nothing personal it's just that i've heard a lot of shit being thrown at Oesterheld and his work because of his political believes) but you've done a great job! Def subscribing :)
how did you even find this comic? also i'd like to say something about the ending you skimmed past. after juan gets into the time machine he doesnt just travel through time periods he also travels through dimensions, parallel universes, and he stops aging. he has lived through hundreds of years, travelled through countless centuries and earths and the warning he gives the writer of the comic? he doesnt even know if this was his timeline, he does it only because it seems similar enough and the risk of the invasion must have been similar enough too. that meta ending merges our world into the world of the eternaut and he is supposed to be even now still travelling through eternity looking for that point in time and space where he left his family but at the same time, after all the years he doesnt remember their faces anymore. i think skimming through that ending is a disservice. also the characters get into panic attacks, paranoia, shell shock and sheer horror. all of it portrayed accurately. fun stuff!
Great episode Chris! The artwork in that book looked to be 100% brushwork, gives it so much texture and realism that you don't find much anymore in the digital age. Very inspiring for someone like me who's had a graphic novel inside waiting to get out for decades.
Hello! I'm Gustavo. I've discovered this video by chance, and I loved it! This comic book changed my life so many ways! I had the opportunity of meeting Solano Lopez, Elsa Sanchez (HGO's widow) Martín Oesterheld (HGO's grandson) and a lot of people from the local comic industry. Because of this, "El Eternauta" is very close to my heart. Congratulations for the excellent review!
You should read Nippur de Lagash (Nippur from Lagash), Dago, or other comics from Robin Wood... they are amazing classics published originally in Argentina too...
4:48 A little correction: In Buenos Aires NEVER snow... it only happen two times in all the history, the first one in 1918, the second one in 2007, when everyone think about the eternaut. For the rest, an excellent work in this video
He could have made more emphasis on how extremely rare it is, but twice is not never. I was there for the 2007 snowday, it was great fun! and it could happen again... It was probably just as if not more common before industrializations and the modern methods to record it.
Curiosamente, esa nevada coincidió con el homenaje a los 50 años del Eternauta en la Biblioteca Nacional. Mi papá fue con unos amigos y cuando salieron estaba cayendo nieve: ¡se metieron corriendo para adentro, naturalmente!
Ah si, recuerdo la "nevada" del 2007. Era pequeño y no se si era diferente en otras partes, pero era más como una caida de agua nieve, nunca vi que se formara nieve.
Great rec, Mort Cinder is another great Argentinian comic! Nekrodamus is also an amazing read (i have no idea if it was published in English or not). His works with Hugo Pratt was pretty good, but I guess Americans wouldn't be as interested in cowboy comics (I had a lot of fun reading Ticonderoga Flint, though lol).
Hi! I'm from Argentina and it's really nice to see the classic "Eternauta" in a non-argentinian video. It's the greatest work of art of the "golden age" of argentinian comics and there's a lot to say about it, not only by it's political allegory but also all the sci-fi tropes and the great characters it makes. I want to make only one correction, we don't call the period "dirty war" cause that's the way the dictatorship calls it, we call it "coup" or "state terrorism" (cause military versus civilians it's not a war). Now i'm eager to see your other videos! Great content!
Exactly, when you talk of a war you inform the audience of a much different type of situation, it creates a notion of some kind of battle ground which there was nothing of the kind since they didn't hold any part of the national territory nor practical resources of any kind, also we don't usually call "wars" conflicts with a 1/20 fatality ratio, even less considering that the majority of its victims didn't belong to any armed gorila group More importantly you disakgnoledge the of fact that this supposed war was undertaken by the state Toward their own citizents denying them a trial of wich they are constitutionally ordained to do (and were completely capable of)
So nice for you to do the research of my country's situation at the moment. This is really interesting! They were playing truco that was fun, we play that all the time
I'm from Buenos Aires and I used to live in one of the neiborhoods where the action happens and watching Juan Salvo and his friends running from aliens in the very blocks I used to walk daily gave me goosebumps. It's incredibly well written and drawn.
I can't believe a comic from my country got featured thank you so much! Just to clarify, while Argentina does feature places where snow is common, the eternaut takes place in Buenos Aires. Snow is almost impossible, it actually snowed 2 times in a hundred years. That's how crazy snow in Buenos Aires is. So the depiction of snow in the comic is actually showing you that something completely out of ordinary is happening.
I lived in US for a while and I rembemer people having troubles pronunciating the name "Juan". My tip is, it sounds like "Who-an". I hope it helps! I'm a fan of Eternauta btw and I'm making a videogame with the same vibes :D Amazing video!
Great work in your research on the context of this masterpiece. On graffiti and street paintings, this is because a political party a few years ago began to merge the iconic character with the president of that year, 'Nestor Kirchner', representing the affinity with the Perons movement. If you see it up close, they put that president's face in the character costume.
Excellent review as usual and, as argentinian myself, I feel thankful for showing our piece of comic history. Speaking of history, bear with me, a couple of points that needed more perspective. The Montoneros, a peronist left wing armed group, was a terrorist organization which existed long before the Junta Militar in 1976. They were not rebels nor were they the resistance. They bombed, killed and kidnapped hundred of civilians in order to stablish a communist Cuban-like regime during democratic administrations. Their actions, as well as other left wing radicals "orgas" from Peron´s political party, were one of the main causes for the bloody military coup of ´76. During that cruel regime, his own and his daughter´s communist activism made him change the original story from the 50s to a darker, politically filled story drawn by black and white master Breccia.
The graffitties you see on the walls of Buenos Aires are political paintings from a political party, Kirchnerismo, which used Oesterheld image in order to show the late former president Kirchner as a hero from the seventies (BTW he became multi millonaire by selling houses fro m people in need thanks to a Junta´s law) The kirchneristas are far from promoting the spirit of the individual and human liberty, they are "populistas", followers of Hugo Chavez. Also, they haven´t paid Lopez the rights for using his drawings and images.
Hi Cris, great episode. I’m from Argentina so I’m glad and proud how you do this review. Great work, specially with your concern about the context of Oesterheld works. Thanks. JP
Good episode like always, I hope in the future an episode on Corto Maltese and Hugo Pratt's works. A minor flaw of american fandom is the lack of knowledge of european comics, your channel is a good way of fill up this void.
It's deliberate. Just look at how Kevin Eastman took his TMNT money and bought up Heavy Metal Magazine, which until that point had been one of the few places in North America where you could see work by European artists like Enki Bilal, Jean Giraud, Guido Crepax, Milo Manara, and Luis Royo. He turned it into a vanity project for Julie Strain, replacing its whole underground aesthetic with standard U.S.-style pew-pew-pew zapgun SF.
Hi chris, greetings from Argentina. I have been a follower of the channel for a while now. As usual, great video. All the info is very accurate, you did a good research about the subject.
It's really amazing the work you've done in this video. I live in Argentina since birth (1985) and not much was said of our cowntry from other places, seeing this really made me happy, and you put so much respect in this video. All I can say is thank you for using your time to talk about a piece of our culture.
I love getting recommendations on comics from places other than the US and Japan. More please! Oh, and I believe that Infotron fan art is a reference to the cartoon 'Whatever Happened to Robot Jones?'. Great blast from the past.
@TYT Member #404 they wont. If we want a change, we as a country need to make it. Politicians will always be white glove robbers. We need to be the change we aspire to make.
@@spanishconquistador6371 why would you change languages mid conversation? Besides in a comments section full of people speaking english choosing the language that not everyone here knows is kind of unnecesary lol.
What a beautiful surprise finding an "Eternauta" review outside of Argentina. I'm from Argentina and this is a very special comic to me. My father (on his 70s now) has 2 copies of the Eternauta (1 & 2), from its first edition, signed by him on the date he bought them (something he always does when buying a book). When I was teenager I was so lucky that by those coincidences of life, I was taking drawing classes and my teacher was friend of Solano Lopez. Solano Lopez came to the studio one day, and he signed my fathers both copies of the Eternauta, dedicated to him
I'm from Argentina and I had no idea about the history of the Eternauta . I love that hard book edition . I will check it to purchase one... GREAT VIDEO
This book is on every public school in Buenos Aires, That's how I read it like most people my age (30) and for lots of kids this is the first point of contact with the dark side of our history and ALSO OUR PRESENT. A piece of work that has influenced thousands of minds across generations.
@@bradholderman8462 Falling Skies has a lot of similarities, at least at the core level. I wouldn't be surprised to learn it started as an adaptation (specially since the rights situation is quite complicated)
"Salvo" could mean both "I save", so in a sense he would be sort of a saviour, and "safe", as in "sano y salvo" ("safe and sound"), which would be closer to your interpretation of "to be saved" (that would be more accurately conveyed by "salvado"). Great video! Truly lovely and refreshing to see such an accurate historical interpretation! :)
wonderful video, thanks! Maybe some little but logical mistakes about the historical and social facts of those years, but cannot blame you, is even hard to understand for us! But let's concentrate in the comic: the publication lasted two years, from 1957 to 1959, and people waited at the newspapers stands to get their issue of 'Hora Cero"! It really hit several generations, and yeah, some of us cannot avoid to think in the episodes when, in Buenos Aires, you walk on some of the iconic places where the story happens. About how it born, Oesterheld just asked Solano Lopez what he would like to draw for his new magazine and he said 'one of science fiction, but a serious story, something close to the reader'; two days later the first pages of "the Eternaut" start to take shape... He choosed the name "Juan Salvo" just because it's a very common name and a common surname, as in every other comic he wrote (from war to educational, or for little children, or science fiction, his body of work is really huge); the story itself was developed week after week, Lopez always said (even to me in one of our meetings) that he had no idea of what would happen! Well, there's a lot to tell as any other iconic artwork, but I guess is enough for this comment! Greetings from Buenos Aires!
@@liberispuritatem si, todavia trabajo, pero en forma privada y par el exterior; efectivamente la industria en Argentina es muy limitada a unos pocos autores que publican mayormente gags o material infantil, ya no hay aventura como en los viejos tiempos. En fin, el tiempo dira! si, conoci a Solano como a la mayoria de los viejos proceres como Pratt, Breccia, Zanotto, Oswal, Quino, etc... Ironicamente yo era "el pibe" (chico); ahora soy mas "el viejo", con 50 recien cumplidos, jajaja!
@@chinomghi No se, Chino; puedo hablar de muchos temas y tengo muchas anecdotas con creadores como Hugo Pratt, Fontanarrosa o Solano Lopez, pero supongo que solo tienen sentido para los que conocen y aman las historietas! Un abrazo!
Argentine and a big fan of El Eternauta here. You gave an excellent account of the historical events, CHAPEAU. Especially in saying "the *so-called* dirty war", because it wasn't a war, was *State Terrorism*, the kind that ISIS does today, but with pretensions of western civility.
This was wonderful, including your explanation of the historical period. 2 things to note: In the las 100 years snow has fallen in Buenos Aires only 2 times, so its a wierd occurrence. The second part was written while Oesterheld was part of the guerrilla and the weekly episodes often told stories of day to day guerrilla actions (like attacks on army posts, casualties, etc). He woild dictate the script over the phone. It ended when he was captured
Congratulations. A fantastic summary of this story. Appreciate your honesty and fair description of everything and the political context involved in the making of El Eternauta. Greetings and thank you from Argentina.
Man, I want to give you a hug! Fantastic choice for a review, one of the best comics I've ever read indeed. You also did so well at presenting Oesterheld and his dramatic ending, which is a vital aspect of his work. My father used to read the Eternaut as a teen in Argentina. It was episodes based back then and he always told me how his friends and him were so engaged into the story, especially cos it was set in a city they knew. All landmarks and locations in the comic truly existed. Years ago I finally got to read the whole comic. I was afraid I would find it dated and old fashioned and that my opinion would disappoint my father. Luckily it wasn't the case. It's a fantastic comic, with great storytelling and tension. I recommend it as well. I feel like reading it again now.
Hi, chilean here, long time fan of your channel. I'm so glad you chose a latin american comic (and you uploaded it on my birthday of all days). Just wanted to point out that those images that you use on 2:39 to exemplify the argentinian coup are actually from the chilean one, that happened a few years earlier on 1973. It's an understandable mistake, considering that the US backed so many military right wing regimes in the region during the 60's and 70's that it's hard to keep track of them all. Anyway, love your content.
Lucrecia Martel was going to make a movie based on this comic, but the project got stuck in development hell. My grandfather used to love this comic. The time travel element reminds me of the film "12 Monkeys", in which director Terry Gilliam used a theme by argentinean musician Astor Piazzola ("Suite Punta Del Este", a modern tango). I don't think that is a coincidence.
Argentinian living in Buenos Aires, here. Some people adapted the Eternauta icon with the face of deceased former president Nestor Kirchner. It was called the "Nestornauta", used by people supporting "Kirchnerism".
Luis Jiménez Cortez was a Chilean comicbook artist, he joined the revolutionary left movement (MIR) during Allende’s goverment. He was detained and killed after Pinochet’s Coup.
Did anyone else notice how at 14:53 he accidentally drops one of the entrants onto the floor, just as he’s enumerating them? “But that still leaves me with nine…-EIGHT names!”
Well, just another argentinian here that wants to thank you for your review of one of our most important cultural icons. Your research was very respectful and your pronunciation of spanish names was very good indeed! El Eternauta is a complex story that have a great potential for a cinematic adaptation. Just hope that whichever that make the adaptation (I'm sure that is go to happen) do it well.
Thank you for the respectful evaluation of the work of Oesterheld, and yes: it's a pillar of the argentinian culture (so important that Netflix will make a series). And thanks for the courage to mention the relationship of the US government of that time with the Dictatorship that disappeared Oesterheld and his daughters and unborn grandchildren.
Erich Ohser (pen name: e.o.plauen) was the most popular german comic artist in the 30s. As a known enemy of the Nazi regime and especially Joseph Göbbels he was arrested and permitted suicide in his prison cell in the night befor his public fake process which would had ended in a death sentence - or years in a concentration camp which would have been a slow death by starving. The Nazis did not like comics. Befor the 70s germany was some kind of comic book desert ...
We still are a desert for the comic-world. Reason is the, lets say, "aftermath" of World War II. Comics, just like any other form of art, finds its beginning in the culture it originats from. There are reasons why styles and stories differ internationally as much as they do because there were different factors contributing to their creations and evolutions. Germany unterwent the "Denazification"-process after WWII which was ment to make Germans turn away from the nazi-ideology. However a big part of Germanys cultural identity got destroyed in the process because it was believed that this had paved the way for what had happened thus far overall in the 20. century. And yes, they were somewhat right in that regard if you look at Germanys entire History. This led to Germany beeing unable to create comics because there was nothing we could've based it upon and thus create something of our own. It didn't help also that the country also replaced what it lost culturally with soccer after the famous world-cup finale in Bern in 1954. (This one soccer-game became so important to us that we created not only multiple movies about it, but a musical, too!). Here's btw the reason as to why Germany is one of the biggest soccer-countrys in the world. This led to comics (or Arts in generall) not finding foot here.
Thank you for introducing brilliant but forgotten comics from around the world! I would love to see you profile Jiro Kuwata and the beautiful Batman Manga of the 1960's! Looking forward to next weekend's video review!
Believe me. Here in Argentina, that comic is anything but forgotten. In primary school, we read it as homework. Every single Argentinian knows about this comic. Edit: I just wrote this commentary, and right now I'm seeing commentary from an Argentinian who says he had no idea about the story. I better shut up.
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This edition of El Eternauta is amazing... great quality. Thanks for reviewing this master piece. Greetings from Buenos Aires...
Thank you so much for apreaciating and promoting our culture. Read it when I was 10, all 3 parts. And many times since. Definately informed me for life.
I remember reading this and finding myself completely awed by the fact that this was so well written and actual despite being arguably old and from well not the US , it was a humbling and refreshing experience to say the least.
I've never heard of this before, but when you said it was argentinian I knew it would be good stuff. Those guys know comics. Greetings from a Brazilian brother
Obrigado! 🇦🇷🤝🇧🇷
Wow this is incomparable in quality to North American '50s comics. Nothing we in the States produced was even close to this level of narrative complexity until at least the '80s!
Not likely due to a lack of talent but due to market forces and perceptions.
For a lot of non western countries visual novels seemed to be a more widely consumed format, not just picture books for children.
Wait till you learn about France.
i think that unfair, didnt the US have the Comics Code Authority at the time? you couldnt write stuff like this even if you wanted to. USA had some amazing horror comics before that and they all had to be shut down or dumbed down because of the CCA.
@@oldmanharley4018 you are correct sir.
DrewLSsix: what exactly you mean by "non western"??? You are not equating US = West, right? Europe had many comics authors who are now considered literature (Hugo Pratt, Mobius, Vincente Segrelles, etc.). What's missing here is the US, not the "west" per se.
If you liked this book you should look up the adaptation of Lovecraft's works by Breccia, one of argentina's greatest illustrators. It's really odd to see a work so close to your national identity been discussed by an international audience. Thank you for the respect.
Y no te olvides de El Cuervo que sabía, de Kráneo
Beautiful wacho
Acero líquido también fue muy bueno
Dejá de escribir en ingles, vendepatria.
@@FernandoRojas-qm6mg y como le va a entender sino el dueño del canal , sos pelotudo?
Damn my country got featured in a video, thank you so much
A nisman lo mataron
Brasileño aquí. Su país tiene cómics mucho buenos!
Y va el tercero y va el tercero...
Me pregunto cuantos hay en total.
vamos argentinaaaa
"El Eternauta" is my dad's favourite comic book. I was not expecting people outside Argentina know about it✌
Que asco la manito
Facundo Zapata Tiene que ver con el tema del video y cada uno tiene derecho a su opinión
Es un clasico totalmente y es raro ver un canal de otro pais que haga un analisis .
Yo te conozco, te recuerdo de podcasts como el sinso y retozando.
Matias Gonzalez Hola, si, "Te lo transmito" y "El Sinso" son los únicos podcasts que sigo religiosamente
the alien invasion as a parallelism of the military regime, dictatotship, imposed by form is fantastic. The mental control ( media control ) the resist and more, just sublime
I like when you cover other countries comics, it shows love to not just american comics but all types of comics
Agree.
We focus to much in the American and Japanese one.
*Spoiler alert* Argentina is a part of America.
@@mirror8519 Don't be a pedantic know it all, you perfectly know what I mean.
@Al X. Andra and yet people somehow still get a hard on from manga fanservice.
people of limited scope usually
You know what's the best and most scariest kind of villain? The one that you never see in the story. It's not an evil emperor, a twirling mustache villain or a serial killer. It's a concept, a colective behind the shadows, a system, an ideology. The ones that never make a presence and we only see their henchman. They're lurking behind the shadows hidden from the main characters and planning everything behind the curtains. How do they look? How many are of them? They can be stopped? This is why I love The Ellos as antagonists: not only we never see how they are but we only know glimpses of their mentality and why they do what they do. They're the symbol of every empire trying to destroy and conquer another nation.
People back then may not know it, but Oesterheld was taking tropes that would been part of pop culture decades later. The collective hero that we see in The Walking Dead, for ex. We owe a lot of respect to Oesterheld and his work.
i recommend you to play half-life, then. that topic it's one of the main plot points of those games lol.
Thank you for that respectful review on Argentinian history. You have no idea how many people just don't care as little as to investigate well on what happened as you did. So thank you, man. And thank you for this review, This is my father's favourite comic and he is part of the reasons i like comics.
I second this.
Investigar “bien”. Se que con el número ficticio 30.000, que si lo buscas en cualquier página de datos oficiales te sale como falsa.
Vieja no puede ser que esa edición sea mucho mejor que la nacional
Jajaja, acá faltan lo dolare'
@@eldragondeloeste8749 seguro viene en el segundo semestre jajaja
*jajajjja mal*
Liberalismo papa
Nadie es mejor que nosotros, tenemos al papa, a messi y a las malvinas. Los otros tienen copas? No. Cuantas copas tienen?
"In Buenos Aires it's rare to get a heavy snow out of nowhere". Huge understatement. It only snowed twice in known history: in 1918 and in 2007. And I wouldn't call the one from 2007 "heavy".
jaja me acuerdo del 2007. Los boludos de mis vecinos sacaron los esquies
¿Para aprovechar las posibilidades que ofrece nuestro relieve que no llega ni a los 27 metros snm?
As an Argentine I have to say that Argentina has enormous talent and history regarding comics and animation. "For whom cares"Argentina was the first country to make an animated film The first known animated feature film was ElApóstol, made in 1917 by Quirino Cristiani He also directed two other animated feature films, including 1931's Peludópolis, the first feature length animation to use synchronized sound... (whom inspired walt disney).. we also have a 1990s cyberpunk series named cybersix. And yeah We made MESSI
You just made my day Chris, The Eternaut is like our Watchmen or Dark Knight Returns, it puts the bar really high for us in terms of writing and art, and put us on par with the others schools of comics in the world. I hope that thanks to this video it get all the recognition it deserves. Oesterheld forever!
As a Peruvian my favorite comics are the Argentinian ones are my favorite around the world. I have The Eternaut and something I have to say, even is strictly speaking Oesterheld is a social justice warrior (and not a twitter warrior) he is also a genius in his art. Something that activists that enter comics are not.
In my country the Argentine comics from 60's to beginning of 90's are sought and treasured by readers from 30 and up.
Hermano latino americano.
Nippur from Lagash ;)
@Jorge Campbell wow esos son antiguos, de hecho yo pensaba que eran (salvo Mafalda, claro) chilenos porque de niño los confundía con los Petete que también ponía historietas que, entonces no lo sabía, eran argentinas. Yo amo muchas de Robin Wood (sip, paraguayo pero con producción argentina) Dago, Nippur, Pepe Sánchez, Merlín, Savarese etc; de Ferrari me gustó Capellán, La Flor, Océano; de Ray Collins (un poeta!) Precinto 56 y El Cobra; de Oesterheld el Eternauta, el Loco Sexton, Ernie Pike y tantas historias autoconclusivas. Mis dibujantes favoritos son como un millón xP, Lalia, Arturo del Castillo, Mandrafina, Alcatena, Risso (que lo leí para Julio César), Lalia, todos los Breccia, Alberto Salinas y su papá José Luis Salinas. Sé que cometo varias injusticias olvidando muchas historias e historietistas. Saludotes.
@Jorge Campbell en Perú nos gustaba mucho Condorito de Pepo. Sobre todo en salas de espera, no me gusta lo que se hace de ahora pero me sigue gustando lo de antes, que me parece que no era humor para chicos. Sobre los títulos que mencionas, la verdad ni de niño me han llamado la atención tiras cómicas o historietas para niños. Creo que por eso aunque he oído de Hijitus lo leí y lo olvidé, de lo más antiguo que leí lo que más recuerdo una de José Luis Salinas, ambientada en el siglo XIX, en un mundo donde el invierno amenaza a quedarse, y otra de una adaptación literaria de unos nobles que pervierten a un sobrino pero lo rescata la tía. Siempre preferí leer aventuras de guerreros o detectives.
As an argentinian, I just wanted to comment on this old video to say that your brief recap on Argentina's political history was brilliant. You gave a well informed, succint and balanced summary.
The Eternaut doesn't depict the hero as an individual, but as a collective hero (Juan, Fava, Franco, etc). That's the main point regarding the characters and their actions and maybe the main difference regarding other comic books. Great video!
Nice episode, Chris. My local library has ONE copy, which is now on hold for me! Can't wait to read it, thanks for making me aware of such an awesome pirce of art. This is why I anticipate each new video. Your critiques and knowledge are impressive. More!....?
I recomend "Mort Cinder" and Breccia work with tales of HP Lovecraft
Mort cinder is also good
Did you enjoy it? :)
Cuándo un comic genial argentino tiene una review profunda y respetuosa en inglés y te sentís orgullos@ de ser argentin@
Great video man
Enorgullece por cosas que pasaron hace mas de 50 años, argentina en los ultimos 50 años es una mierda y dudo que deje de serlo
My name is Rodrigo, I'm from Argentina.
Safe and sound in spanish is "sano y salvo". Maybe that's what you mean with Salvo meaning safe.
Keep making awesome videos.
Salvo por sí solo sería: I save (yo salvo)-
Yo salvo - Jhon salvo - Juan salvo. Tiene sentido!
@@JoseLuisRodriguez-vd8uj Si. La forma correcta sería "salva"; pero al menos en argentina, salva tiene un sinónimo que seria "ficticio", así que yo creo que por eso le pusieron salvo.
Amigo me encanta encontrar gente de mi país en videos extranjeros... me encanta
But "sano y salvo" would be a idiomatic translation not a literal one, "safe" in Spanish is "seguro" (you could understand it as "salvo too) and "sound" in Spanish would be "sonido" like what you hear with your ears, at last we have "sano" healthy in English. The direct/literal translation would be then "salvo y sonando" but I guess anybody would understand you if you say that in any Hispanic country.
Great video Chris. I'm from Argentina and is so good to see one of our greatest comics in a channel like this. I recommend you the works of Alberto Breccia, huge influence of a lot of artists for decades.
Argentinian comics was a leading industry back until the 70s arrived and the dictatorship almost destroy it.
what dictator? because perón was also a dictator... :)
im a socialist so i dont like peron. but he was elected. dictators arent.
@@Joaking91 you must be kidding.. you said that dictators can not be elected?? You know what a dictator means??
It does not have nothing to do with being elected or not.
Check Maduro en Venenzuela.. he is not a dictator for you?? BTW.. socialism is the cancer of the world. There is not a single country in the world with economic growth or high quality of life being socialist, it does not matter its region or continent.. In addiction, you would not find any country in the world that applying capitalism (free market) is not growing or if it has a high level of capitalism since a while it should have a high quality of life.
You have like 200 countries in the world, try to find only 1 example of any of those two cases to see if I am wrong, it should be easy for you, just 1 case in 400.
Check any free market index to measure the level of capitalism, the ones higher in the table would be more capitalist and the ones in the bottom means they are less capitalist (more socialist).
Joaking so Hitler’s government wasn’t a dictatorship, wasn’t it?... poor logic.
@@Joaking91 Peron was a socialist too.....
Also, he was part of 2 dictatorships before becoming the candidate for the Military Party
Dammit, now i'm checkin amazon to buy this book. Seems like a great story and that cover needs to be in my collection! Thanks for another great comic tropes video!
JMuise you can buy it directly from Fantagraphics www.fantagraphics.com/#/product/2495
Trust me, you WON'T regret it. Youl'll finish it in 1 or 2 sittings.
It's somewhat similar to the web novel The Phenomenon if I heard right
It's a great comic.
The sequels are awful, though. You are better off not reading them.
Excellent video. As an Argentine, thank you for promoting the Argentine comic on your channel!
I recommend Mort Cinder and Ernie Pike, two of the best works of Oesterheld and the tv series "German" about the life of HGO.
Oh, a lot of the graffiti, it's with the face of a former president (Nestor Kirchner) instead of the face of Juan Salvo.
''Oh, a lot of the graffiti, it's with the face of a former president (Nestor Kirchner) instead of the face of Juan Salvo.''
Most people here call him the Chorronauta
Eter/Chorro
Chorro= Thief.
Ese fue el chorronauta...
that was the thiefnaut
those graffitties were made by followers of Nestor Kirchner (many young people, youngs like those were killed in the dictatorship, the dictators that killed Oesterheld), some called those graffitties the Nestor-nauta. its because of his politics was also in benefit of social justice, like Oesterheld beliefs and fight
Mort Cinder is great
Which is an embarrasment. I hate the fact that those fucking idiots hijacked the image of the Eternaut to serve their disgusting political agenda.
Awesome look at a non-standard non-U.S. comic. You were definitely on point putting in the historical context. Good form.
Wow, it's such a pleasing surprise to hear you talk about the great masterpiece from my country that is El Eternauta. I'm glad you've enjoyed it and recommend it to your wide audience.
As an Argentinian I feel proud of your review of this comic. So much love and emphasys editing and explaining the very important context I hope some day we can see a movie about it, maybe we can start a fan movement to make it real! Greetings form Chaco - Argentina
Wow such an interesting and tragic story and Im not just talking about the comic but also the author. It is really sad that so many people have to die for basically just their political and social beliefs.
Montoneros was a terrorist group. Even Perón, hated them. Find out who was lopez Rega.
Gastón Medici is the troll center so boring that you sarted trolling on videis in english? me das pena
Beliefs of justice and solidarity are deemed dangerous for those in political and economic power.
@@Fran-pk6et Los Montoneros fueron unos terroristas lo mismo con la ERP y la triple A, mataron muchas personas (más de 600, entre civiles y militares). Espero que no estés defendiendo un grupo como este.
Alejandro Fortini buen intento, pero en ningún momento los montoneros o el ERP fueron calificados como terroristas por ningún archivo y por ende, un juicio de valor personal o de un partido interesado (ya sea articulos de clarin o la nación) son utilizables. No simpatizo con los montoneros, pero sí le quiero hacer algo de justicia a Oesterheld
(Francesco) Solano Lopez later was well known in the UK for 'Janus Stark' and 'Adam Etermo' as well as a ton of WW2 comics - he worked in UK comics from the 60's to the 90's
I guess I'll post the obligatory comment about how I just found your channel and have been bringing episodes. As a long time fan of the medium, your channel has simply been amazing to watch. I've been reading for over two decades, but you've opened my eyes to layers of depth that I've missed. Thanks so much for your hard work. Please keep it up and you'll always have a fan in me.
It's so cool such an old comic would have a meta ending like that. Before it's time for sure
I never would have imagined that you have so many fans in my country, I thought I was the only one. Last week I bought Brat Pack after seeing your review
Thanks for sharing this comic book. Here in Argentina, people are usually either disinterested or unaware of the national comic book industry, another reason why this book it's so special, been so influential and ionic from a medium almost ignored.
It make me happy every time I see that El Eternauta is shared around the world in different videos on the net,keeping it alive and giving a testament of the hard situation that ruled Arengina at that historical moment.
So yeah, thank you for spreading the word!!!
Now that's a real classic! There used to be a graffiti of this comic book in my neighborhood but they painted over it last year, a true shame that was.
I've lived my whole life in buenos aires and i've only seen snow once, and it was more like some type of slow rain than actual snow.
Still, i consider myself lucky. The only two times it snowed are within 90 years of each other. I might not even live to see it happen again.
Was it one of those Nestornautas?
@@GiubileiFernando It was u.u
Never 4get invierno del 2007, cada invierno tengo las esperanzas de que vuelva a nevar, idk, me llama mucho la idea de lo imposible que es.
Nyft IK, It was tots surreal
The good old 2008 snow... I think there was an old lady who lived through both times. I remember she said "The first time I couldn't go out and touch it because I was too young, and the second time I couldn't do that either, but because I was too old."
Thank you for sharing a comic that means so much to us latinoamericans
It's so surreal hearing you talk about the "troubles" in Argentinian at the time
Fuck you Macri
@@urafaget5202 indeed, still throwing more to his side, my family, at least my grandpa and his brothers were Peronchos.
@@urafaget5202 How so?
Francisco, He bought thousands of tractors from the United States that no one needed. He tried to start a jet fighter industry to compete with the United States. He backed a nazi refugee to create a cold fusion reactor that went nowhere.He spent so much money in so little time that the militar government that put him in place tried to overthrow him. All went downhill from there...
urafaget Yeah right, the guys that throwed literal bombs at the "Pink House" because they didn't like the president that was democratically elected were giving decent salaries to the poor and have had to invent a comunist threat to take over power were the good guys, suuure
I like how you just kinda riffed at the end. your "rambling" is very interesting, especially speaking off the cuff on your thoughts of what you researched and gained in making this episode. thank you for your knowledge and insight.
Argentinean here. Awesome video! Thank you for the respect and clarity when talking about this amazing title. Im always a little defensive when ppl from other backgrounds (non-latin american) talk about El Eternauta since it's not only iconic but a piece of our identity and history (nothing personal it's just that i've heard a lot of shit being thrown at Oesterheld and his work because of his political believes) but you've done a great job! Def subscribing :)
Subscribed, not only because of this comic book but because of your analysis and attention to the detail.
Thank you from Argentina.
how did you even find this comic?
also i'd like to say something about the ending you skimmed past. after juan gets into the time machine he doesnt just travel through time periods he also travels through dimensions, parallel universes, and he stops aging. he has lived through hundreds of years, travelled through countless centuries and earths and the warning he gives the writer of the comic? he doesnt even know if this was his timeline, he does it only because it seems similar enough and the risk of the invasion must have been similar enough too.
that meta ending merges our world into the world of the eternaut and he is supposed to be even now still travelling through eternity looking for that point in time and space where he left his family but at the same time, after all the years he doesnt remember their faces anymore. i think skimming through that ending is a disservice.
also the characters get into panic attacks, paranoia, shell shock and sheer horror. all of it portrayed accurately. fun stuff!
what do you mean how he found it?
Great episode Chris! The artwork in that book looked to be 100% brushwork, gives it so much texture and realism that you don't find much anymore in the digital age. Very inspiring for someone like me who's had a graphic novel inside waiting to get out for decades.
Hello! I'm Gustavo. I've discovered this video by chance, and I loved it!
This comic book changed my life so many ways! I had the opportunity of meeting Solano Lopez, Elsa Sanchez (HGO's widow) Martín Oesterheld (HGO's grandson) and a lot of people from the local comic industry. Because of this, "El Eternauta" is very close to my heart. Congratulations for the excellent review!
Thanks man, awesome video! Loved your bowling shirt too! El Eternauta, you don't know what it means for us who live here !! Thanks again!!!!
You should read Nippur de Lagash (Nippur from Lagash), Dago, or other comics from Robin Wood... they are amazing classics published originally in Argentina too...
GRAN cómic. Muy profundo y ambientado en la época de los sumerios que no tiene mucha presencia en la cultura pop pop
4:48 A little correction: In Buenos Aires NEVER snow... it only happen two times in all the history, the first one in 1918, the second one in 2007, when everyone think about the eternaut. For the rest, an excellent work in this video
He could have made more emphasis on how extremely rare it is, but twice is not never. I was there for the 2007 snowday, it was great fun! and it could happen again...
It was probably just as if not more common before industrializations and the modern methods to record it.
Curiosamente, esa nevada coincidió con el homenaje a los 50 años del Eternauta en la Biblioteca Nacional. Mi papá fue con unos amigos y cuando salieron estaba cayendo nieve: ¡se metieron corriendo para adentro, naturalmente!
Ah si, recuerdo la "nevada" del 2007.
Era pequeño y no se si era diferente en otras partes, pero era más como una caida de agua nieve, nunca vi que se formara nieve.
@@matti.8465 en donde estuviste? yo vi nieve-nieve, acumulada sobre los autos y todo, hay quienes incluso hicieron pequeños muñecos de nieve.
@@Rodrigo_Vega
Era muy chico y creo que solo sali al patio de mi casa (CREO que estaba enfermo, no me acuerdo) asi que puede ser por eso.
Great episode!! I also recommend reading Mort Cinder. It's also available through Fantagraphics.
Great rec, Mort Cinder is another great Argentinian comic! Nekrodamus is also an amazing read (i have no idea if it was published in English or not). His works with Hugo Pratt was pretty good, but I guess Americans wouldn't be as interested in cowboy comics (I had a lot of fun reading Ticonderoga Flint, though lol).
And Sherlock Time!
But yeah Mort Cinder is the cream of the crop of our comics.
Hi! I'm from Argentina and it's really nice to see the classic "Eternauta" in a non-argentinian video. It's the greatest work of art of the "golden age" of argentinian comics and there's a lot to say about it, not only by it's political allegory but also all the sci-fi tropes and the great characters it makes. I want to make only one correction, we don't call the period "dirty war" cause that's the way the dictatorship calls it, we call it "coup" or "state terrorism" (cause military versus civilians it's not a war). Now i'm eager to see your other videos! Great content!
Exactly, when you talk of a war you inform the audience of a much different type of situation, it creates a notion of some kind of battle ground which there was nothing of the kind since they didn't hold any part of the national territory nor practical resources of any kind, also we don't usually call "wars" conflicts with a 1/20 fatality ratio, even less considering that the majority of its victims didn't belong to any armed gorila group
More importantly you disakgnoledge the of fact that this supposed war was undertaken by the state Toward their own citizents denying them a trial of wich they are constitutionally ordained to do (and were completely capable of)
So nice for you to do the research of my country's situation at the moment. This is really interesting! They were playing truco that was fun, we play that all the time
I'm from Buenos Aires and I used to live in one of the neiborhoods where the action happens and watching Juan Salvo and his friends running from aliens in the very blocks I used to walk daily gave me goosebumps. It's incredibly well written and drawn.
Now you made me spend 50 bucks. BTW I let fantagraphics know I was there because of you. You're doing really good work!
Amazing, Im an Argentinian so watch till where this has reach is just amazing, Thank you for show how much value has this comic to us.
You should totally talk about international comics more often; it's always a good time.
Such a surprise to see you reviewing a comic from our country. I've been watching your videos for a while, and you make a great job! 🙌
I live in Buenos Aires and in the last century, the last hundred years, it only snowed twice. So, snow its pretty unheard of. Otherwise, great video.
Yo estaba enfermo la ultima vez que nevo hace una decada, mis papas no me dejaron salir a probar la nieve :(
Same, I only saw snow like, once in my life xD
in south argentina snowed always bobo
@@rz9021 he said Buenos Aires, capo
"The only Hero is the Hero-in-Group" The Eternaut
As an Argentinian and fan of The Eternaut, I really apppreciate this video!
Keep the good work, Chris :)
I can't believe a comic from my country got featured thank you so much! Just to clarify, while Argentina does feature places where snow is common, the eternaut takes place in Buenos Aires. Snow is almost impossible, it actually snowed 2 times in a hundred years. That's how crazy snow in Buenos Aires is. So the depiction of snow in the comic is actually showing you that something completely out of ordinary is happening.
I lived in US for a while and I rembemer people having troubles pronunciating the name "Juan". My tip is, it sounds like "Who-an". I hope it helps! I'm a fan of Eternauta btw and I'm making a videogame with the same vibes :D
Amazing video!
This is the first time I have heard of this comic. Now I want it! Thanks Chris, great review.
Great work in your research on the context of this masterpiece. On graffiti and street paintings, this is because a political party a few years ago began to merge the iconic character with the president of that year, 'Nestor Kirchner', representing the affinity with the Perons movement. If you see it up close, they put that president's face in the character costume.
Excellent review as usual and, as argentinian myself, I feel thankful for showing our piece of comic history. Speaking of history, bear with me, a couple of points that needed more perspective.
The Montoneros, a peronist left wing armed group, was a terrorist organization which existed long before the Junta Militar in 1976. They were not rebels nor were they the resistance. They bombed, killed and kidnapped hundred of civilians in order to stablish a communist Cuban-like regime during democratic administrations. Their actions, as well as other left wing radicals "orgas" from Peron´s political party, were one of the main causes for the bloody military coup of ´76. During that cruel regime, his own and his daughter´s communist activism made him change the original story from the 50s to a darker, politically filled story drawn by black and white master Breccia.
The graffitties you see on the walls of Buenos Aires are political paintings from a political party, Kirchnerismo, which used Oesterheld image in order to show the late former president Kirchner as a hero from the seventies (BTW he became multi millonaire by selling houses fro m people in need thanks to a Junta´s law) The kirchneristas are far from promoting the spirit of the individual and human liberty, they are "populistas", followers of Hugo Chavez. Also, they haven´t paid Lopez the rights for using his drawings and images.
Hi Cris, great episode. I’m from Argentina so I’m glad and proud how you do this review. Great work, specially with your concern about the context of Oesterheld works. Thanks. JP
Good episode like always, I hope in the future an episode on Corto Maltese and Hugo Pratt's works. A minor flaw of american fandom is the lack of knowledge of european comics, your channel is a good way of
fill up this void.
It's deliberate. Just look at how Kevin Eastman took his TMNT money and bought up Heavy Metal Magazine, which until that point had been one of the few places in North America where you could see work by European artists like Enki Bilal, Jean Giraud, Guido Crepax, Milo Manara, and Luis Royo. He turned it into a vanity project for Julie Strain, replacing its whole underground aesthetic with standard U.S.-style pew-pew-pew zapgun SF.
@@NoJusticeNoPeace Heavy Metal's gotten better. It's more avant garde and strange, like it was back when I was published alongside Metal Hurlant
+Ian Byrne That's because Eastman finally sold it in 2014.
Hi chris, greetings from Argentina. I have been a follower of the channel for a while now. As usual, great video. All the info is very accurate, you did a good research about the subject.
It's really amazing the work you've done in this video. I live in Argentina since birth (1985) and not much was said of our cowntry from other places, seeing this really made me happy, and you put so much respect in this video. All I can say is thank you for using your time to talk about a piece of our culture.
I love getting recommendations on comics from places other than the US and Japan. More please!
Oh, and I believe that Infotron fan art is a reference to the cartoon 'Whatever Happened to Robot Jones?'. Great blast from the past.
Agree.
Ha i have this comic on its original edition, courtesy of my grandpa. Living in Argentina has its pros I suppose.
@TYT Member #404 they wont. If we want a change, we as a country need to make it. Politicians will always be white glove robbers. We need to be the change we aspire to make.
@@Ichigolificacioon Why are you talking to him in english when you could do it in spanish?
@@spanishconquistador6371 why would you change languages mid conversation?
Besides in a comments section full of people speaking english choosing the language that not everyone here knows is kind of unnecesary lol.
Well, we do have a big PRO in the government (?)
@@Ichigolificacioon nothing will change if you think all politics is robbery. You should go read
The pun of the name Juan salvo, in spanish could be interpreted more like, "to be safe" not to be saved.
Man, I'm Brazilian and thanks to not washing out the participation of The USA in The southamericans dictatorships
Such an underrated channel. Episodes are always interesting and entertaining
What a beautiful surprise finding an "Eternauta" review outside of Argentina. I'm from Argentina and this is a very special comic to me. My father (on his 70s now) has 2 copies of the Eternauta (1 & 2), from its first edition, signed by him on the date he bought them (something he always does when buying a book). When I was teenager I was so lucky that by those coincidences of life, I was taking drawing classes and my teacher was friend of Solano Lopez. Solano Lopez came to the studio one day, and he signed my fathers both copies of the Eternauta, dedicated to him
Qué buen regalo para tu viejo, Pablo! Abrazo loco
I'm from Argentina and I had no idea about the history of the Eternauta . I love that hard book edition . I will check it to purchase one... GREAT VIDEO
This book is on every public school in Buenos Aires, That's how I read it like most people my age (30) and for lots of kids this is the first point of contact with the dark side of our history and ALSO OUR PRESENT. A piece of work that has influenced thousands of minds across generations.
El Eternauta is the father of The Walking Dead in many ways and is better. Viva el comic latinoamericano.
I was just thinking that I could see it on A&E as a tv series like the Walking Dead.
@@bradholderman8462 Falling Skies has a lot of similarities, at least at the core level. I wouldn't be surprised to learn it started as an adaptation (specially since the rights situation is quite complicated)
@@KanonZombie what about V
Calm your tits down, classic big-headed argentinian! How many cups do you have?
IncursorVerde do you know Marcelo? Bend down and know it
"Salvo" could mean both "I save", so in a sense he would be sort of a saviour, and "safe", as in "sano y salvo" ("safe and sound"), which would be closer to your interpretation of "to be saved" (that would be more accurately conveyed by "salvado").
Great video! Truly lovely and refreshing to see such an accurate historical interpretation! :)
wonderful video, thanks! Maybe some little but logical mistakes about the historical and social facts of those years, but cannot blame you, is even hard to understand for us! But let's concentrate in the comic: the publication lasted two years, from 1957 to 1959, and people waited at the newspapers stands to get their issue of 'Hora Cero"! It really hit several generations, and yeah, some of us cannot avoid to think in the episodes when, in Buenos Aires, you walk on some of the iconic places where the story happens.
About how it born, Oesterheld just asked Solano Lopez what he would like to draw for his new magazine and he said 'one of science fiction, but a serious story, something close to the reader'; two days later the first pages of "the Eternaut" start to take shape...
He choosed the name "Juan Salvo" just because it's a very common name and a common surname, as in every other comic he wrote (from war to educational, or for little children, or science fiction, his body of work is really huge); the story itself was developed week after week, Lopez always said (even to me in one of our meetings) that he had no idea of what would happen!
Well, there's a lot to tell as any other iconic artwork, but I guess is enough for this comment! Greetings from Buenos Aires!
Reuniones con Lopez? Usted trabajaba en la industria del comic? Digo "trabajaba" porque dudo que se pueda vivir actualmente del comic en Argentina.
@@liberispuritatem si, todavia trabajo, pero en forma privada y par el exterior; efectivamente la industria en Argentina es muy limitada a unos pocos autores que publican mayormente gags o material infantil, ya no hay aventura como en los viejos tiempos. En fin, el tiempo dira!
si, conoci a Solano como a la mayoria de los viejos proceres como Pratt, Breccia, Zanotto, Oswal, Quino, etc... Ironicamente yo era "el pibe" (chico); ahora soy mas "el viejo", con 50 recien cumplidos, jajaja!
Qué interesantes deben ser las charlas con usted, Osvaldo! Abrazo
@@chinomghi No se, Chino; puedo hablar de muchos temas y tengo muchas anecdotas con creadores como Hugo Pratt, Fontanarrosa o Solano Lopez, pero supongo que solo tienen sentido para los que conocen y aman las historietas! Un abrazo!
Argentine and a big fan of El Eternauta here. You gave an excellent account of the historical events, CHAPEAU. Especially in saying "the *so-called* dirty war", because it wasn't a war, was *State Terrorism*, the kind that ISIS does today, but with pretensions of western civility.
This was wonderful, including your explanation of the historical period.
2 things to note:
In the las 100 years snow has fallen in Buenos Aires only 2 times, so its a wierd occurrence.
The second part was written while Oesterheld was part of the guerrilla and the weekly episodes often told stories of day to day guerrilla actions (like attacks on army posts, casualties, etc). He woild dictate the script over the phone. It ended when he was captured
Congratulations. A fantastic summary of this story. Appreciate your honesty and fair description of everything and the political context involved in the making of El Eternauta. Greetings and thank you from Argentina.
Another of the excellent comics of that time is "Nippur de Lagash". It is an epic history. And from the nineties, "Cazador" (Hunter).
Man, I want to give you a hug! Fantastic choice for a review, one of the best comics I've ever read indeed. You also did so well at presenting Oesterheld and his dramatic ending, which is a vital aspect of his work.
My father used to read the Eternaut as a teen in Argentina. It was episodes based back then and he always told me how his friends and him were so engaged into the story, especially cos it was set in a city they knew. All landmarks and locations in the comic truly existed.
Years ago I finally got to read the whole comic. I was afraid I would find it dated and old fashioned and that my opinion would disappoint my father. Luckily it wasn't the case. It's a fantastic comic, with great storytelling and tension. I recommend it as well. I feel like reading it again now.
Hi, chilean here, long time fan of your channel. I'm so glad you chose a latin american comic (and you uploaded it on my birthday of all days). Just wanted to point out that those images that you use on 2:39 to exemplify the argentinian coup are actually from the chilean one, that happened a few years earlier on 1973. It's an understandable mistake, considering that the US backed so many military right wing regimes in the region during the 60's and 70's that it's hard to keep track of them all. Anyway, love your content.
Lucrecia Martel was going to make a movie based on this comic, but the project got stuck in development hell. My grandfather used to love this comic. The time travel element reminds me of the film "12 Monkeys", in which director Terry Gilliam used a theme by argentinean musician Astor Piazzola ("Suite Punta Del Este", a modern tango). I don't think that is a coincidence.
Damián Szifrón también
Argentinian living in Buenos Aires, here. Some people adapted the Eternauta icon with the face of deceased former president Nestor Kirchner. It was called the "Nestornauta", used by people supporting "Kirchnerism".
Great analysis of argentinian history and the context of the Comic, I'm from Argentina and I apreciatte your review a lot.
Luis Jiménez Cortez was a Chilean comicbook artist, he joined the revolutionary left movement (MIR) during Allende’s goverment. He was detained and killed after Pinochet’s Coup.
Did anyone else notice how at 14:53 he accidentally drops one of the entrants onto the floor, just as he’s enumerating them? “But that still leaves me with nine…-EIGHT names!”
The live action movie of the eternaut must have viggo mortensen as juan salvo
I second this!
Well, just another argentinian here that wants to thank you for your review of one of our most important cultural icons. Your research was very respectful and your pronunciation of spanish names was very good indeed! El Eternauta is a complex story that have a great potential for a cinematic adaptation. Just hope that whichever that make the adaptation (I'm sure that is go to happen) do it well.
I swear Euro and South American comics are so out there, bizarre and amazing. But are so sparse compared to the moe machine of Japan.
Thank you for the respectful evaluation of the work of Oesterheld, and yes: it's a pillar of the argentinian culture (so important that Netflix will make a series). And thanks for the courage to mention the relationship of the US government of that time with the Dictatorship that disappeared Oesterheld and his daughters and unborn grandchildren.
Speaking of Argentina what about Cybersix???
On the strength of your review I have just ordered this book and am looking forward to reading it. Thank you for your passion. Keep reading comics.
Erich Ohser (pen name: e.o.plauen) was the most popular german comic artist in the 30s. As a known enemy of the Nazi regime and especially Joseph Göbbels he was arrested and permitted suicide in his prison cell in the night befor his public fake process which would had ended in a death sentence - or years in a concentration camp which would have been a slow death by starving. The Nazis did not like comics. Befor the 70s germany was some kind of comic book desert ...
We still are a desert for the comic-world. Reason is the, lets say, "aftermath" of World War II. Comics, just like any other form of art, finds its beginning in the culture it originats from. There are reasons why styles and stories differ internationally as much as they do because there were different factors contributing to their creations and evolutions. Germany unterwent the "Denazification"-process after WWII which was ment to make Germans turn away from the nazi-ideology. However a big part of Germanys cultural identity got destroyed in the process because it was believed that this had paved the way for what had happened thus far overall in the 20. century. And yes, they were somewhat right in that regard if you look at Germanys entire History.
This led to Germany beeing unable to create comics because there was nothing we could've based it upon and thus create something of our own. It didn't help also that the country also replaced what it lost culturally with soccer after the famous world-cup finale in Bern in 1954. (This one soccer-game became so important to us that we created not only multiple movies about it, but a musical, too!). Here's btw the reason as to why Germany is one of the biggest soccer-countrys in the world. This led to comics (or Arts in generall) not finding foot here.
Great video!! I love your job. Watching your videos I've learned a lot about the world of comics. Greetings from Bahía Blanca, Argentina.
Thank you for introducing brilliant but forgotten comics from around the world! I would love to see you profile Jiro Kuwata and the beautiful Batman Manga of the 1960's! Looking forward to next weekend's video review!
Scott Free we have one or two copies of that in my LCS!
Believe me. Here in Argentina, that comic is anything but forgotten. In primary school, we read it as homework. Every single Argentinian knows about this comic. Edit: I just wrote this commentary, and right now I'm seeing commentary from an Argentinian who says he had no idea about the story. I better shut up.
This edition of El Eternauta is amazing... great quality. Thanks for reviewing this master piece. Greetings from Buenos Aires...
oh my god im early. btw the "oh hi there" intro not being there was disorienting
Thank you so much for apreaciating and promoting our culture. Read it when I was 10, all 3 parts. And many times since. Definately informed me for life.
Here even if you haven't read a comic ever, you know "El eternauta"
That's totally true. Even Quino's "Mafalda" rest in collective conscious, even within teenagers.
I remember reading this and finding myself completely awed by the fact that this was so well written and actual despite being arguably old and from well not the US , it was a humbling and refreshing experience to say the least.