Best First Car? Ford Fiesta 1.0 litre no turbo 2013-17
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- Is the Ford Fiesta with a non turbo 1.0 litre engine one of the best first cars you can buy?
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Love how a driving instructor talks about heel and toe, then you know they truly understand driving
Thank you 😄
"you cant press both pedals"
I guarantee the vast majority, if not all driving instructors know heel and toe
I reaaally liked this video. Car reviews are definitely your cup of tea, so I look forward to new videos :)
Thank you, I did an Audi review a couple of months back and it really didn't prove popular. In fact it lost me subscribers so I am on the fence if I should do car reviews.
@@ConquerDriving Maybe from a business perspective you are right. I still enjoyed the video. And the topic "The first car to buy' is more relevant to the channel's theme, so it might do better this time.
You could make another channel focused on car review stuff. It might take a bit of time to get subscribers up though but could prove popular as you're good at it. You hit a sweet spot of being very knowledgeable but not at all annoying about it.
@@toofpastetool You are right, I though that too, but didn't bother saying because I think Richard is busy enough.
@@ConquerDriving When I subscribed, you had 112k subs. Now you have 137k subs, so I think you have recovered rather well! (I have a CZcams channel as well, with 17 subs).
Good advice for a new drivers first car. Slow maneuvering is so much easier in a car that has these characteristics and that is very important.
Agreed, it does make learning easier.
Over half a year ago, I received my provisional and found your channel. It gave me a huge head start with my instructor and made me more humble. Now just a half year forward, I passed all my driving tests and safely commuting my workmates to and from work in a company van, I will be buying my first car next month so Big Thanks for all the great knowledge and advices I could easily reach while I was awaiting my next driving session. It definitely reinforced and added to my awareness and driving skills, also for sure contributed to my first attempt success. Thanks a million!
update: I bought my first car and Good News!! It's a Dacia Sandero! 🤣🤣🤣
I just bought my first car last week.. a 1.4 tdci fiesta absolutely love it especially the fuel economy I'm getting over 80 mpg on the motorway
Wow, that is impressive.
I bought a Skoda Citigo colour edition for my first car which I’ve had for almost a year. It’s a perfect small car for a new driver, 50-60+ mpg, very easy to park, the insurance was only about £1,300 with no black box, very comfortable for a small car too.
It only has a 1.0L engine and 59hp but it certainly doesn’t feel underpowered, although the acceleration is pretty limited - 14s from 0 - 60
I know the one, I'm teaching someone in one of those at the moment. It has far nicer brakes than the Fiesta. That's a good first car.
Conquer Driving haha thanks, it’s a great little car
I've got the 1.0 80ps, passed in July. Got plenty of power for a 1st car and will happily rev to 6500 anyday, definitely teaches you about the importance of gears and downshifting. The 3 pot sounds much nicer than all of my friends cars. Hoping to get the 140ps red edition in the coming years.
Agreed, the ford 3 cylinder does sound nice and is smoother than most 3 cylinder engines. I've driven the 140 red edition. That is Ford horsepower though and it doesn't feel like a 140 bhp turbo engine to me, more like a 120 bhp. My 140 Leon is much faster, feels it and is so on paper too despite it being heavier. Not all horses are the same.
@@ConquerDriving guessing it has more torque
@@manveersingh1971I've heard there's not much difference between the 99hp, 125 and 140 unless you are revving it a lot
@@gamesmaster1060 there is a huge difference just general daily driving, my first car was an astra 1.6 around 114bhp but it struggled on hills where as my leon 1.4tsi 125bhp is a lot faster, look at torque figures too
thank you.I like your channel
Thanks :)
I love mine the ecoboost model for a first car i think the interior is great
I've just brought a citreon c3 it's great little car, I only plan to learn in it😊
Your first car will always be a memorable one.
I agree I love non turbo engines
Actually The 1.0 ecoboost is a very responsive engine with the turbo starting to spool as low as 1500 RPM other than that you are right about the turbo lag of turbo petrol's.
Yes, most modern cars do get boost as low as 1500rpm. The Ecoboost is responsive for a turbo but still very laggy compared with an NA engine. Most people confuse lag with boost threshold. Lag is how your engine responds to minor inputs from your gas foot. Boost threshold refers to how long it takes and rpm for full boost.
Conquer Driving I think Turbos are becoming standard now on a lot of cars
@@forza223bowe5 Mazda are bucking the trend as usual, I've a great deal of respect for them. But yes, you're right.
How good is ford fiesta 1.0 zetec 5dr 2017 with 5 gears petrol? I know its good in city, but can you please me its performance in motorways? Since it didn't have 6 th gear, will I have issues?
If you get this car, make sure it has a good service record.
A good idea would be to make sure the oil sump filter is clean.
hello, is it possible for you to make a playlist with all your driving tips? would be handy if someone wanted to watch a lot of them in one go
I do plan to do playlists soon and organise my channel better.
Conquer Driving can you please make the playlists then
nice, i got the 1.25, and yes the breaks are poor. Also I think the 1.25 sounds nicer than the 1.0
I hate when I have to go on the highway because I’m like “this car is not made to speed” 😆😫 lord. Loved the video 🤘
I’ve had a few fords, I haven’t been impressed with one of them but they have been easy to drive, loads of problems though. I’m not sure Ford is made hardcore winter tough. Or maybe it’s just the cars and I’m expecting too much 🤷♀️😆
My experience is, Fords drive well, but feel cheap when compared to similarly priced alternatives.
How things have changed my 1st car when i was 18 in 1974 was a 1500 vauxhall victor 90000 miles on the clock cost £100 and £100 3rd party only to insure, to hear people paying what £3000 to £7000 for one of these for a 1st car seems so much, now retired dont do the mileage iv got a 2015 100 bhp turbo ecoboost its faster then my wifes 1400cc better on petrol and no tax the biggest problem with these cars is the price of cam belt change, if you hang on to them a long time other wise great car.
I have a 1.6 Diesel Kia ceed brilliant car not gonna light the world on fire but very efficient and has a bit of pep to it though in second and third
Good cars those.
I agree, no turbo, instead a supercharger, good advice thanks! 👍🏻
Haha yes. Or high compression ratio, variable valves and high revs.
Got a 2006 Toyota Corolla SR (1.6l) for my first car a few months back. Been nothing but great for me so far, and the insurance is only £100 more than your average 1/1.2 litre due to it being seen as a "grandad" car.
That's correct, I did the grandad method when I was younger. Allowed me to have 115bhp when I was 18 which was a lot for an 18 year old at the time.
Loving these videos. I've been following your channel for every upload since I discovered it! I was wondering if you had any advice for new drivers who wouldn't be able to buy their own car in the near future, nor have access to anyone else's car that they could get insured on.
I know there is the car hire or, better still, the Car Club option, which would be great for practice.
However, as you'll be aware there are hardly any, if not no companies that don't require a minimum time of holding the license of at least 12 months. If this means simply holding the license, it seems ironic to me, as someone is more likely to be safe on the road within the year of their test pass than after a year with no experience.
This is unless it means minimum of 1 year with insurance, which makes more sense safety wise, but creates an even bigger problem for drivers without a private car that want to get on the road. I was wondering if you had any opinion or wisdom about this issue, and whether it could be a video to add to one of your series? Thank you very much, and all the best.
Unfortunately there isn't really an alternative. Best thing to do is pay for driving lessons. If you can afford a cheap used car that helps but isn't necessary to help you learn. After passing you really want to get a cheap used car to begin with. Hiring a car won't normally be possible.
@@ConquerDriving Thanks so much for your reply. Yeah, I guess there is no magic loophole. But it can be surprising how cheap used cars are, so that is good advice.
Hi Richard, do you personally use the heel and toe method. I am a learner atm and I am slowly trying to incorporate this technique into my driving. What's ur opinion ?
Yes I use it all the time when braking and changing down gears. I personally wouldn't try it until you're more experienced as it takes a lot of practise and it is hard in some cars. Use the side of your foot more than your actual heel is my best advice for this.
Thanks for the video mate! I've had the exact car, a red 2013 1.0 80 ps for almost 4 years now. I do about 15k miles a year in it and I thought I could share my thoughts here, for anyone considering buying it.
It isn't the best-built car inside or outside. It might just be my car since it was one of the very first ones of this shape to roll out the factory, but it developed quite a few trim rattles over the years. Mechanically, touch wood, the engine has been good, although I do change the oil every 5k. The gearbox seems ok too, albeit a bit difficult to shift at times. The suspension is good on the motorway and smooth roads but any bad surface in town, or tiny bumps or the occasional manhole cover make the car feel like it's going to disintegrate at times. The suspension itself hasn't been very reliable between 18k and 60k, the worse culprit being a broken spring at 30k. It turned out it was rusting from the inside. The carpet is terrible and I would highly recommend car mats and a boot mat. I kept track of all the expenses I had on it, and on average, over the past 4 years, the car has cost me around £2.5k/year in maintenance and fuel.
One other slightly bad thing about it would be the performance. I say slightly because sometimes I think it's great, sometimes not. If it's just me or just me and my partner and the engine and gearbox are warmed up, the car keeps up with traffic in town. When the engine and gearbox are cold and I don't want to use too much throttle and revs, the low power figure definitely makes itself shown. The only other time you would notice you only have 80hp is when going up motorway hills and this is especially noticeable here in Scotland where there are many of them ha! Nothing a lower gear can't fix but even then, 4th may not be enough to hold 60 or 70 uphill depending on wind and how loaded the car is.
With that being said, I've had so many nice memories in this car that I think all of the niggles above can be forgiven. For starters, at at least 15k a year, getting 50mpg + -2 all the time is godsent (50-50 town and A road/motorway use). It cruises on the motorway and A and B roads faultlessly. We did North Coast 500 twice in it and one time we actually did it in one day and I wouldn't have done it in anything else! Another highlight would be a late-night stint from Wales to Scotland. We cruised at 90 all the way. It was a bit loud, but the little engine managed faultlessly. On A and B roads, so long as you know how to plan ahead, you can drive progressively and overtake without any problems. It also cruises really nicely on A roads, and most times, my partner falls asleep on the way back home. I think this can partly be attributed to how well the car settles at 60 mph., but mostly my grandad driving and shit banter. Depending on where you live, insurance is not bad and £0 a year in tax is very nice! It's also very easy to park and to manoeuvre in tit spaces.
If anyone potentially interested in getting this exact car is reading this, I would at least get a later model from 2015 onwards. If reliability is more important than fuel economy, I would get the 1.25 engine variant. I wouldn't recommend a turbo car to anyone since if they aren't taken care of and driven correctly they will have a lot of reliability problems. I wouldn't recommend this car in general, as I think there are more reliable and more comfortable small cars out there.
Thanks for reading this! Follow my adventures with this little car called Chilly at mysaturdaydrive.com
It did seem more rusty underneath than cars of a similar age.
£2,500 a year in maintainece and fuel? Ik you do a decent number of miles but I think I’ll have a BMW if it’s that much on maintenance 🥴
Get a life 💀
Good review. As someone who owns one (1.0 petrol without SYNC nor turbo), I agree with most of what you said here. Here's what I don't quite agree with:
- Brake pedal travel: It is a long press, but that's an advantage because I don't wear out my brake pads by braking too hard all the time. A bit less travel would be nice, though.
- Seats: I don't know for sure if mine are different than yours, but mine are fine. It's no Bentley, but it's no bus either.
- Interior being cheap: Again, no Bentley, but I like its design and the materials aren't too bad. I do get the occasional parasitic noise from the front of the dash, though.
- Steering wheel: Mine's leather-ish and quite smooth. I assume that's a perk of my car's trim level, as yours seems to be different.
Your review is spot on when it comes to (lack of) power and the suspension. One needs to rev over 3000 rpm to get decent power out of the engine.
To all of you wanting to buy one: if you mostly do city driving and/or want to drive as fuel efficiently as possible, it's adequate. For those of you that mostly do highway/B-Road driving, I'd recommend the turbo version (although I haven't driven it myself) because of the added oomph. Also, get a 6-Speed transmission.
Regarding turbos: as someone who learned how to drive on two diesel cars, the turbos weren't an issue at all for me.
TL;DR Good review and good car, albeit a bit slow. Good gas mileage, though (5.5 l/100km, 80% B-Road driving, 15% over 70 km/h driving, 5% city driving).
Feel free to ask me any questions you may have about the car.
Edit: I read that you're indecisive about making more reviews. I encourage you to keep making them.
Edit 2: Added fuel consumption figures and made the comment easier on the eyes with some paragraphs.
Thanks for your detailed response. I've driven many fiestas in many different trim levels. I'm comparing the interior quality and feel with other similarly priced cars and it is doe's feel one of the cheapest although put together well. It's subjective but I hate the faux squidgy leather on most fiestas steering wheels and the quality of the carpet is very poor too. If you spend time in a VW Polo or SEAT Ibiza of the same year you will know what I mean and they aren't any more expensive in the real world. But the Fiesta is the best segment b car to drive. Thank you for your compliment about the review.
@@ConquerDriving You're welcome. Yes, that's subjective. Personally, I like the squidgy leather. Regarding the carpets: do you mean the floor mats? If so, I haven't even noticed that at all.
Out of those two, I only spent a brief amount of time in a Seat Ibiza. I didn't get to drive it (dealer didn't let me, claimed that the car wasn't insured), but I could tell that it was a quality product. However, its interior design felt quite bland to me, which gave me a bit of a perception of lack of material quality. Adding to that the fact that it was a Diesel and that a bearing was making noise at the back, and... well, let's just say that I wasn't too keen on buying it.
You're welcome. Maybe I'll get to compliment future reviews aswell. :)
I love your humour :D
Thank you :)
Ps Anyone ever told you, you look like young Freddie Mercury? x
Haha, just a few. 😂
I don't really know much about cars but recently bought a 2009 Polo as my first car after not driving for 10 years (your channel helped me learn to drive again!). Do you think Polos are not so great to drive then? I don't have much to compare it with. Steering does feel sort of spongey though I have to say.
Polo's driving nicely and are the most grown up car you can buy in that price range. The fiesta drives better if you're looking for something more sporty and engaging. I would personally choose the Polo as I find it an all round better car.
Hi Richard weldone for all your great videos
Would like to ask, if you have got any link to any insurance company were I can ensure my own car for my driving test.
Thanks
Thank you, there is a link in the description of this video.
I bought a 28 year old VW Polo for my first car. No power steering, no traction control (not that a 1.0 polo from 1992 would need it) and no stability control. Not to mention the lack of toys in the dashboard😂 and near non existent crash protection. But I think that’s what makes it a great first car! Old school driving combined with the ‘incentives’ to drive more carefully😂.
😂 I like your thinking. I love driving old cars.
What are your thought on having an AUDI A3 as a first car? Really do love audi and im passing my test this year, also over 25 so insurance is significantly lower. Cheers
It's a very nice car. I did a review on here of a convertible A3. The post 2013 model is far superior.
what about the 2017 fiesta 1.6 L vetec?
This is my first car. Just got a bigger engine in mine. Never had a issue with the seats myself or the steering wheel. I'm not used to higher end cars so I'm not personally comparing it to any
If you haven't driven many other cars then you wouldn't be used to anything else. I'm not comparing it to high end cars, I'm comparing it to cars of a similar price.
@@ConquerDriving oh no I didn't mean you I had just seen other comments saying things like it's not as good as a Mercedes.
@@Xofttam Ah I see, to be fair you've probably sat in lots of cars. My bum is particularly fussy with seats. I find VW group cars have the nicest seats for the price.
The responsiveness actually only deoends on being in right rpm range irrespective of turbo or non turbo engine.
Toyota Yaris is a good first car.
5 stars in the crash test rating, fuel efficient, cheap to insure and being a Toyota, very reliable.
That's a car I often recommend to my customers.
Apparently they will not allow you to take your driving test in it.
Any car with valid tax, mot and insurance can be driven on the driving test.
@@johnhall4917 check on the government website, it states that certain cars cannot be used as they do not give the examiner all round vision and a list of cars which cannot be used due to safety issues.
@@manchestergirl744 it's listed there because they had a recall but if you've had your cars recall issue fixed it will be fine. There are only 4 specific vehicles listed there which cannot be used outright. The Yaris can be used if you prove it had the recall work done.
How good is a Vauxhall Corsa 1.4 2016/17 plate for a first car? Also what are the best cars insurance wise?
A vauxhall Corsa of that year would do you well. It all depends what you want from the car. Yaris and Jazz if you want reliability. The corsa is bad at nothing but doesn't trump at anything either, it's kind of a good all rounder. The cheapest cars to insure are normally city cars like the Fiat 500, Toyota Agyo, etc.
Hi in there ! What about a Ford B Max which is based on a Super Fiesta Mini !
My first is a 2012 1 Series. Lovely car - got her about £1200 cheaper than market value, despite her low mileage of 40,000. Deal of the century!! Automatic, of course. 😅
That is a good discount!
Very nice! How much was the car/ your insurance? And defo agree with getting an auto - didn’t like the gearbox in my parents manual 1 series
@@youraveragejoe1 Funny enough I ended up swapping out for a newer 1 Series. The first is up for sale now. The second was £8000, was worth £10,000 at the time and has 62k. First year insurance was £2000, and after 1 year NCB is now £890 👍
@@dxnnyk1411 ah nice 👍🏼 thanks for the reply
My first car is also a Fiesta, a mk7 form 2009 with a 1.25L 4 cylinder engine with 82 horsepower (0-60 in about 12 seconds). I hope i can keep it for a long time
12 seconds is quicker than the similarly powered 1.0 litre.
Do you still own it?
yes@@aaroncousins4750
79hp from a 1.0 is pretty impressive actually. A shame it's still not enough for a car this size.
My current and 1st car is a 1.4 2010 60 plate zetec, and I love it
There is no car like your first 👍
At 2:14 if you were to change down to 4th gear would it have been able to accelerate past 40 mph by keeping the engine at a higher RPM. It looked like it wasn’t producing enough torque in 5th gear to climb the hill.
Yes, lower gears would have solved the issue.
I think you should make a video comparing petrol and diesel.. 80hp petrol can feel slower than a 60hp diesel simply due to the lack of low-mid end torque.
Some engines, like a 1.4 8v may make 75hp but will feel faster than a 1.0 16v with 80hp because they have more torque in the rev range you need it most.
I think you could do a very good job explaining this :)
Also maybe mention the pros and cons of diesels (better mpg, slow to warm up, DPF issues)
Good suggestions Michael. I'll see how well my other review videos that I've made do first. The more technical videos I make don't seem to be very popular.
ye but the new 1.0 has more torque
Please do a video of your seat leon
I may do, I have a couple of review videos to upload, I'll see how they do first before making more. But I do love the Leon, planned to keep it for 3 years but I still have it after 6.
I also got a Fiesta (1.4 petrol, without turbo) as my first car, and I love it! It's more powerful than this, cheap to maintain, good fuel consumption, and it's amazing to drive.
I haven't driven the 1.4
I have the 1,25 engine with 82 bhp, it’s pokey enough
@@forza223bowe5same, I also sounds much nicer than the 1.0 for sure
hello i'm 42 and currently taking driving lessons what would be your recommended car for first time driver....I would be looking for a small engine like a 1.0L but also cheap to insure. Do you have any recommendations ? i'm a new tuber and like your vids
also I would have to travel 30 miles to work and back
I highly recommend you have a car with cruise control. When you're used it you can drive 10 times the distance and still feel refreshed. If I was in your shoes I would buy the best segment C or D car that I could afford, because they cover distance in a lot more comfort than a segment A or B car. They're also more stable at speed due to a longer wheel base. This is why I teach in a segment C car, it's a much nicer place to spend 8-10 hours of my day. Normally the longer you keep your car the less money you spend on motoring overall. So buying something that may be a bit more expensive to begin with pays off in the long run. If you don't understand car segments Wikipedia has a good article on euro car segments. A post 2013 Audi A3 or an A4 will be your friend. Not the sporty s line models with firm suspension and big wheels though. SE trim level with cruise will be just fine. Then there is the post 2013 Golf and Leon which are both fantastic. The previous generation pre 2013 are no so good.
can you help me?? Does 2013 Ford Fiesta ecobost 1.0 have cruise control?
I think the Titanium model does, but I'm not sure.
Nice review. I bought the 99bhp EcoBoost because it came out top in all the reviews of the time. As I learned to drive in my forties insurance costs weren’t an issue. It’s interesting you said about the brakes being unresponsive because I’ve often thought that too.
Could you please make a video about how to quickly and safely recover from a stall? Although I passed my test over a year ago and I don’t stall very often, I still have no idea if I’m doing it correctly. Pretty sure I’m taking steps I don’t need to.
That's a good idea, I'll add it to my list.
Out of curiousity what year is your car and do you still have it?
@@gamesmaster1060 It’s 2013 and yes, I still have it.
@@tiergartenmusic That's good I'm getting one myself that's 2013
@@gamesmaster1060 Nice one. I hope you love it!
How reliable is the 1.25 engine, I know the eco boost, version hasn’t got the best record
The 1.25 is from the 1990s and as a result is very reliable these days as they've had ample time to iron out the faults. The ecoboost did have some faults but to the best of my knowledge they have been resolved on later cars. The non turbo seems reliable.
i have a 98 fiesta mk4 zetec 1.25 and its fantastic in my opinion, did have a seal go on the gear selector shaft but very easy and simple to fix
I passed my test about a month ago now, I also have a car. It's a 1999 Saab 9-3, 3 door 'coupe.' I wanted something different for a first car, especially considering I know of no other 18 year old with a Saab like that.
That is unusual, how do you find it on insurance?
£1,017 with a black box, which was about £50 more than a Mini One, so seemed quite good. Had the black box ons, not had any issues with it so far, so quite good overall I think.
@@tidierpenny that's very good!
I've just got the 1.0 ecoboost as my first car. I have to say it really doesn't feel in anyway laggy. It's very responsive and 0-60 in around 9 seconds when shifting effectively. You're very right about heel toeing with the ecoboost though you really do have to give it the gas when down shifting!
It is laggy, I guess you may be confusing lag with boost threshold. Lag is how the reacts to minor gas adjustments whereas boost threshold is how long full boost takes. They don't have a big boost threshold but they are laggy compared with a normally aspirated car.
Just bought the 1.0 Ecoboost Titanium, it feels like such a luxury to drive. Smooth and can give out a good kick when needed. You can get out of tight junctions and up to 60mph in under 10 seconds with nice medium revs.
They are good.
I really want the eco boost 1 litre
@@spidey229 They are good, i do enjoy mine. Excellent and fun for local driving and will do the distance if needed.
Until you have to deal with that wet belt
@@gamesmaster1060 I guess i'm still waiting for that problem, if it arrives 🤷. Also i don't plan on keeping the car passed 65,000 miles and i never over rev it. Only what it needs
I think you can tighten your brakes by putting pressure on them multiple times while the car is off
That will stiffen them pedal when the car is off because you're using up the vacuum, once you start the car the vacuum will return. You want the vacuum for the power assist brakes, without it stopping the car takes a lot more strength.
I can make a cup of tea before my turbo on my 2008 passat has responded to my accelerator pedal input.
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Why can't I find insurance quotes? Soon 17 and live in Manchester
Have you tried confused.com?
Ppl complain about a 2013 Fiesta with 1.0 non-turbo engine? Wait until they drive a 1st-gen Daewoo Matiz or older Daihatsu cars with non-turbo 800cc engine.
😂
I just bought my first car,skoda fabia 1.9 sdi 2006,100km/5.5 l.
That should be nice and easy to drive. Good on fuel too.
Absolutely atrocious car that Skoda. I can hardly reach the end of my drive😡
My first car was a ford ka 1.3 had 69Bhp owned for nearly three years did me well I have now got a 2018 Mini Cooper 1.5 with 136bhp
I enjoy driving the little old KA. One word though.. Rust!
Actually mine didn’t have that problem I was told by so many people that mine was one of the cleanest ones around no bubbles around fuel cap or rust didn’t have the common cracked front lip had low mileage for the year (was a 2008 model) 23k on the clock bought it summer 2016 I put new wheel caps on it Changed the radio it had a cassette radio that’s about it I still see it around as the person who bought it lives nearby
@@boyracer19941 the body work on the car was perfect. I was referring to the chassis underneath.
ive got a mark 4 fiesta as my first car. its the 1.25 zetec 16v however was only £1100 ish to insure or £1300 without a black box. interesting how this 1.0 fiesta has more power but takes about 5 seconds slower from 0-60. my mum has a mark 7 1.25 zetec fiesta and i agree the seats are awful and i find the mk4 to be so much more spacious in the front, back and boot. shame they dont make nippy little cars like that nowadays
i also dislike the incredibly light feeling of the mk7 steering, and found that the brakes would do barely anything for alot of the peddle travel then come on very sharply.
The more powerful versions with disc brakes all round are better apparently.
7:00 due to it being the zetec trim and the non turbo version the titanium has a much nicer interior and features, could look at one a few year older for similar price
better to just spend inbetween 400-700 for a mk6 1.2 fiesta, get a box for first year boom cheap insruance without a box for 2nd year. and if you scuff it up no worries so many parts down the breakers yard
Good advice!
Nice video! What do you think about a Mercedes A Class 2018 as a first car?
Very nice car if you are able to afford it. However given that budget I would say a Golf or Audi A3 are better cars.
Don't buy that, the depreciation will hit hard because of the latest model and you'd be better off with a cheaper first car to be honest maximum 5k bought outright
@@qlus I've already sold it. It will depreciate at less than £1,000 a year which is brilliant. The new model will be the one that depreciates the fastest.
@@ConquerDriving sorry I was talking about the 2018 Mercedes not your suggestions
Ahhh, I see. Yes the Merc will lose half its price in 3 years and 30,000 miles.
Try driving it on a motorway and feels like the engines going too blow out the bonnet. I had the 100ps ecoboost variant and much better in my opinion. They gave me the 1.0 non turbo as a courtesy car while mine was in for service and i couldnt cope
It is a bit slow but I doing it very calm at 70mph. Just needs driving hard if you want to get their quickly. Which is part of the fun ;)
I imagine it's fine. My little 1 litre non turbo Hyundai sits at motorway speeds all day long with the cruise control and air con on. In fact.. it often overtakes small capacity turbocharged cars that are sat in the hard shoulder 🤪
@@jamie74gemini87 😂😂 had too read that twice... iv only ever driven turbocharged cars apart from that time with the courtesy car for a day so im thinking maybe im being a bit harsh and i don't think im in a state too comment about it until iv experienced one for some period of time. I get what he means though about the response of throttle thats its instant
Oh don't get me wrong I love driving turbos.. when they boost it feels great and accelerating up to speed is a pleasure. But once you're sat at 75-80 I guess the turbo is redundant. Also there seems to be loads of long term issues with ford and vw small turbos.. I'd rather not take the chance just yet until reliability improves. 👍
Iv got 92k miles on the clock on my polo and the turbo seems fine so far.. until after mentioning this now i will wake tomorrow with failing on me 😂 and then bye bye 105bhp hello 60bhp 😂😂
Hi, I have same engine version as in your video, and noticed that at 100 km/h engine already at 2900-3000 rpm. Is it normal for non-turbo version?
I'm sorry, it's been a long time since I drove this car.
Are you in gear 5 at that speed?
@@rufusgreenleaf2466 yes, also read about same performance on Fiesta forum (4000 rpm with this Duratec, 120km/h)
@@bobeobigzigzigzeo Ah, i'm not sure. I know in my Suzuki Alto 67bhp it used to do like 2900 revs at 60mph. I have an Ecoboost Fiesta now and it sits comfortably at 60mph at around 2100 revs even 70mph at about 2500revs. It could be normal for a Zetec Fiesta as it's a small standard engine.
I've recently got a 2014 Fiesta with EcoBoost (not happy that I didn't fully research this engine before hand but that doesn't matter now) I do notice the lag, but I'm also a slow and careful driver most of the time, so it doesn't bother me, I don't really like shooting off like a rocket.
As for the breaks, I noticed this exact thing, but I took it in for a service and they replaced the front break pads, and I did immediately notice the difference, there wasn't as much travel on the break pedal anymore before it actually starts breaking.
Overall I'm happy driving it, it's my first car and I think it drives fine and feels more comfortable than driving a Vauxhall Adam (the only other car I've driven). Feels solid on the motorway at 70, it seems to have a slight judder at 30 which goes away at higher speeds, I'm not sure what that's about, when I get time I'll take it to Kwik Fit, they said they would take a look.
... just worried about that cam belt though.
The Ecoboost is a 3 cyl engine without a balancer shaft so it resonates quite a bit which is probably the reason for the noticeable 30mph judder. I used to own an Ecoboost van but got rid of it before the belt disintegrated. Was always on the back of my mind so it had to go even though the van was perfect.
@@kenzohkw Thanks very much for your reply and knowledge, I would never have known that. It's not bothering me that much, I was just worried there might be a problem. Yesterday I asked a garage to book it in to check this judder for free, let's see what they come back with :)
@@mintydog06 whatever u do, don't take it to Kwik fit, they know nothing about cars, they are just part fitters. Take it to a decent local independent garage.
@@kenzohkwThanks for the advice. The local garage that done the service never picked up on the slight rumbling of the car, and somebody else said it's just a characteristic of the car.
I've already got it booked in for a free check on Wednesday, but whatever they come back with I dont plan to get any work done on it anyway.
@@mintydog06I have an Ecoboost and find no problems with it, yes the "wet belt" and "coolant" problems scare me but i drive decently and maintain the car. You'll be fine for tens of thousands of miles as long as you service the car at least once every 2 years or so. That's just my opinion. Yes i also regret getting an Ecoboost but it will more than likely do for now.
What about a bmw 118d 2015 any good
Very good car. Can get expensive with age.
Wou be super helpful to hear your thoughts on other ''first cars'' - as you said, ''it's one of the best first cars you can buy'', - what are the others? Would love to hear your thoughts on some other ''first cars''. Thanks :)
It all comes down to your budget and what's important for you. It's hard to recommend a car without knowing what's needed. Most cars these days are good though, so ita more about budget and what feels good when you try to drive it.
@@ConquerDriving That's fair.
I like your other video on buying a car too, its really thorough, and has all you could need to know when buying, so il defo be referencing that when selecting a car :)
I was planning to buy this car but now I have to rethink
Sorry to caused you confusion. Try an Ibiza and the fiesta and see what you prefer. I chose the Ibiza when I was buying that class of car.
@@ConquerDriving do you think it's the best first car?
Always wondered, why do driving instructor cars have high powered hard to stall engines? Wouldn't it make more sense to have small engines as instructor cars as they are slightly harder to drive.. Like I don't recall a time when I've ever had to change down a gear in an instructors car due to a hill (only getting caught out by steep hills in my own low powered car, changing down gears under load is tricky, and not helped by someone following you very close behind!)
Not good when a pupil could learn in a diesel, learn that they don't need to use gas to pull away (bad habit) and then get a car for themselves after they have their license..and just keep stalling! (i think this is one of the reasons your car is petrol?)
That's true Michael. But you're always better off learning in an easy forgiving machine first. That way you get more success which leads to more confidence and more success. A positive feedback loop. However, I believe people should be taught methods that work in all cars. Just try those methods in an easy car.
How much would one of these cost in the current climate
Autotrader is the best place to search in my opinion.
I have a 2005 Citroen C1 1.0 as a first car, which I'm happy with.
Pros
Base model is group 1 insurance
£20 VED
1.0 Toyota engine gets 50-55mpg
Lack of gadgets means less to go wrong
Aux port on radio
Easy to service
Inexpensive parts
Full size spare wheel
Small size & good visibility
Nice exhaust note
Cons
Back seats are practically unusable
No mpg or temp display
2 airbags
No central locking
No glovebox
Front seats don't return to original position (3 door)
No reach adjustment on steering wheel
No tachometer
No clutch footrest
Seat doesn't go back far enough for tall drivers
What to look out for?
Early produced cars had a weak clutch which would wear out prematurely. Later cars had a revised clutch which reduced failures
However, the clutch cable must be adjusted at each service
Changing down gears to 2 & 1 can be difficult. You have to be crawling along before 1 can be selected without resistance, which can be difficult in town. It seems to be commonly reported online however. A sign of wear I reckon
The door & tail light seals commonly leak. Check that the carpets are dry when viewing. The tail lights can be DIY sealed with silicone sealant.
Older models will be pretty rusty underneath now. You don't want to buy a car to find out it needs welding. Try and opt for a later model
Thank you for the information. I've not driven one of those.
I'm buy yundai i 10 manual 5 speed , its my first car , good ??
a bit boring
It should be cheap to run and reliable depending on its condition.
Also Suzuki Swift 2010-2016 model is a good choice as a first car (1,2l with 4cyls 92bhp non-turbo natural aspirated engine), with proper maintenance the car easily run 250-300k kms, futhermore the spare part cost nothing..
What about petrol consumption good or bad?
@@jamiebond19 Depends on your foot, but i achieve between 5,5 - 8,5l. The bigger consumption is in urban in slow moving traffic with A/C
The 1.2 litre in the swift has a high compression ratio of 12.5 if I remember correctly. That should be very efficient in real world driving.
Volvo C30 can be had for cheap and with the 1.6 it's cheap on insurance. Get a high mileage diesel for less than 1k
That's a good car. Change the oil regularly as the turbo will fail if you don't on the 1.6
That prince harry comment was so underrated😂
Is this version tax exempt?
Yes it is.
mhh also just bought my first car in october 2019 but somehow i seem to be one of the only young drivers that buys a 2008 Volvo S60 with a 2.4L Diesel just has a 126hp
Cheap to insure? Cars for older people can be surprising on insurance.
@@ConquerDriving im only 19 and live in belguim. Insurance for me is around 2.500€ thats around 2.100£ . Not because i bought a Volvo means that i am old btw although its what most poeple assume when i tell them via the internet so no offence to you
@@tommydedecker110 He meant that older people tend to buy them, thus insurance companies tend to charge less for insurance. :)
Enjoy your Volvo! :)
@@tommydedecker110 if it wasn't for the UK system of insurance I would have got a Volvo S80 V8! But my insurance is 2.3k alone on a 1.6 diesel c30
80 hp isn't THAT underpowered in a small car: the 1,6L Ford engines from the 1980s put out a similar amount of power and they weren't that anaemic if one knew how to drive. Of course, older cars are lighter due to lacking the safety reinforcements and stuff that help save lives.
Cars of the 80s were very slow though. 80bhp and 60 mph on 15 seconds is as slow as it gets in this day and age.
Ok, I just said cars of the 80s were slow... Not all cars, the F40 certainly wasn't slow. But slow car's in the 80s were a lot slower than "slow" cars of today.
My fiesta is 82 bhp, and it’s quite powerful for what it is, even when fully laden.
It is in a ‘newer’ car which is heavier. Older cars also had more displacement meaning more torque at lower revs making them feel spritely than new heavier cars with the same power output.
I have this car, can someone tell me the MK of this car?
It's the mark 7.5
Mine was a picanto se 1.0. Anything 1.0 is perfect first car
Most 1.0 litre cars are good first cars but I can think of some more powerful 1.0 litre engines that may be expensive to insure.
@@ConquerDriving haha anything turbo will be right? 🤔
Some turbos are low boost but some do get a nice amount of power from a 1.0 engine.
These engines are known as ecoboom! Cos they blow. The 12.5 is old school reliable and much more durable.
I think the issues of the earlier models have been resolved. From what I recall, one of the main issue was a coolant pipe letting go.
The 1.25 is soo slow and not massively economical
@@ConquerDriving na newer ones are still blowing. 😂
@@ConquerDrivingNot really, the cambelt and oil pump belt are in oil and there's a lot of reports of the belts prematurely degrading and blocking the oil pump making the engine 'ecoboom'. 5W-20 oil needs to be used with the correct ford specification and engine flushs additives must not be used
@@matthewwood9596your totally right. But if a fiesta of this age is being recommended then the 1.25 is the toughest and least problematic. I bet you don’t own a 1.0 ecoboost 😂
I have a 2016 1.25 Fiesta for my first car and I don’t like how the brakes feel either... the brakes on my instructors ecoboost are a lot better
The higher powered version gets different brakes. I believe it has discs on the rear instead of drum brakes that the lower powered cars have.
Conquer Driving Never had an issue with the brakes, on my 1.25 fiesta. Maybe, the brake pads are worn ?
SuperchargedDarkness yea I seem to have the same issues as you , I have the 1.0L 100bhp eco boost and feel the brakes are absolutely horrendous.
Harry Wooldridge Really don’t get it, I have a fiesta and the brakes are fine, maybe too powerful
@@harrywooldridge3933 I am the opposite. My 1.0 ecoboost is quite nippy and the brakes are sharp. Use it as a driving school car. As most instructor's like driving and use the car for personal use as well it is common for us to get a bigger engine than learners need. I know an ADI, who has an Astra SRI coupe with 150bhp
I've watched this video a few times but not taken in when you said 100nm of Torque 😳. 100nm is next to no power when you start having passengers. I think these smaller engined cars were designed for young parents dropping kids off at school or an alone driver to work and back, maybe a first car. Ticked off as a 5 seater but it being full of adults will just kill the power.
The Ecoboost version is a bit better at a further 20bhp (100) and a further 70nm of Torque (170). Although with all these "Ecoboost Problem's" i'm half wishing i'd bought something else. My Ecoboost is a great car but i do drive carefully and service regularly.
I recently passed my driving test, now looking for a car, but I don’t have good knowledge of cars. Someone help😅
Dont go for one of the big company name cars, if you about my age (22) then maybe go for a skoda or something insurance will run out of your arse
If you want reliability it has to be Honda or Toyota. Not my favourite cars but reliable.
I recently passed too, I think something like a Fiesta, Yaris, Estate, Citroen C1, Golf/Polo would be solid as a first car 👌
Hyundai getz
Im new driver got a golf mk4 tdi solid car and cheap insurance aswell and cheap parts 🙂
Can anyone here help me? I'm trying to find insurance as a first time driver. I'm 37, and keep getting quoted between £500 a month and £660. Is this a normal amount to pay per month? I don't see how I can afford this.
That's way too much, check out my link to confused in some of my videos descriptions.
Do you not mean £660 for the year, at 37 that seems more reasonable. I can't see it being a month unless you drive a tank.
@@rufusgreenleaf2466 It was per month for a VW golf. I decided to get a Polo instead.
@@crazykittensmiles That's like £7,000 a year which is way too much. Try a compare the market website or something. How much you pay for your Polo a month?
@@rufusgreenleaf2466 £138 pm
Don’t want a car that’s gonna struggle. What’s the best Ford Fiesta that won’t struggle? For a new driver?
Normal sized cars with 100bhp and up tend to have enough power in most situations.
Pick a car with a turbo. 1 litre engines without a turbo is sluggish.
Do you watch Scotty kilmer?
Sometimes I do, he is the king of click bait 😀
I got a 2011 Mazda 2, 1.5 litre na and cheap to insure for young people because they aren’t that popular
I haven't driven the Mazda 2 although it is based on the shame platform as the fiesta so will drive similarly.
Or you can get a diesel, save tons on fuel costs and not have any issues going up hills in high gears.
The trouble with diesels is they're very gear specific so you must be in the correct gear at all times. Which can be challenging for new drivers.
Conquer Driving Diesels are better suited to large cars, and commercial vehicles. Petrol suits the fiesta best
Diesels are only economical if you live on the motorway and I doubt a young driver will do
Razordraac as someone who is learning in a diesel, its very easy imo
OK yes turbo lag exists but I wouldn't use that to justify not buying a turbo car. As a new driver I wouldn't ever aim to make my driving as easy as possible, I need something to learn or something to tame otherwise I'll never get better!
I like turbo cars for every day driving if I'm honest. But for my hobby car it has to be NA because it is mire engaging. I was making a point that it's easier to learn to drive in a car without a turbo.
try to learn to drive in a Van like i did (Fiat Talento crewcab to be specific) and every other car you drive onwards is a peace of cake to park or to drive
@@tommydedecker110 that's my point exactly! Screw making it "easier", that's not how we learn.
@@SassyOnline exactly if you learn the hard way from the beginning everything after that becomes easy. To be fair iam also cheating a bit since I've started working as a car mechanic at Volvo so I drive plenty of different cars a day, never can get used to a car not eveny own car screw reference points no point in them if your driving alot of different cars daily so I just do everything by well feeling and guessing espacialy working works out fine usually
@@tommydedecker110 you're bang on mate. If you learn to drive properly none of that shit matters because you adjust. For example "more revs to move off with a turbo" but in every car you'd just find the bite anyways. My first car is a twin turbo rwd BMW. If you can't feel a vehicle out when you're driving it it's probably a sign you shouldn't be driving yet 😂.
Who has 8 grand to spend on there first car?
That's a very good point. This one I'm currently selling for £4790.
I saved up for years to be able to afford mine
KONATAonPC - I’ve got a Toyota aygo
I did 😅
A lot of people now end up buying brand new cars and get high interest rate lease deals on 20k first cars. So it's more common than you think
Fiestas are popular therefore more crashes higher insurance so not a good first car choise
But statistics would takes into account that there is more cars. It's a percentage not an outright number.
Land Rover Defender, 0-60: eventually
😂
So much nit picking here...the steering wheel is too squidgy, reminds you you are in a budget car. Most 18 year olds would be very glad to be able to afford to run this car. Their insurance even with a black box will be hundreds if not thousands of pounds. So what it doesn't have the perceived quality of a Polo?. Fords are MUCH cheaper to repair and maintain and that is what counts when paying to keep a car on the roads. In fact driving a lower powered car fast in the right places can be very enjoyable and a great learning experience, against a high power car that overwhelms a new driver and doesn't give them the chance to explore their abilities gradually. No two cars brake pedals have the same feel and it doesn't take long to become familiar with a car in that respect and use it properly, it's just about being flexible and willing to learn, something you are familiar with, right?. For a newly qualified driver, does 0-40mph time matter?. Are you encouraging them to buy a car based on that metric?. I hope not. Your point about sudden turbo intervention, was valid 20 years ago, but again this in modern cars is much less, perhaps not now a problem and again we adapt to the peculiarities of a car soon after beginning to drive it. I think you are overly dramatic on this point. I generally enjoy your videos, thought will comment when I think you're going off at a tangent.
F.O.R.D
Found on rubbish dump.
Sorry! Had to say it.
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probably not the 2013-16 model cos they like 5ish k +
I can't remember what I sold that one for now. It was a 2014 if I remember correctly.
@@ConquerDriving yh still great cars tho,currently im driving mums kia rio 2012 but getting my own car,i aint going with a corsa and no volkswagen cos insurance and i dunno about fiestas but i might still get a fiesta,can't be picky at 17😂😂
im worried that you are driving and talking to the camera !!!!! this is dangerous
It's not really, Richard sets his cameras up so he can still drive and observe correctly. Talking to them is no different than talking to a passenger. Just because us the audience can't see the road properly doesn't mean Richard can't.
nah its crap way too sloow
Too young to be calling them wing mirrors.
They'll always be called wing mirrors until they're cameras. Or I call them ears as they do look like ears on some cars.
He's just a badge snob
That's why I drive a Vauxhall VX220.. and a SEAT 😂😂
I have a Mercedes A Class 1.8. Better than a Fiesta
Of course it is. But it is almost twice the price.
That's the dumbest statement to be placing on a video like this.