Driving Instructor Stalls and Wheels Spins on the Steepest Street in England
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- čas přidán 14. 05. 2024
- In the UK many people are taught to lift the clutch before pressing the accelerator pedal when learning to drive a manual car. However, some cars will stall when using this method. The car I'm using is very capable of moving without pressing the accelerator, even on a hill. So I decided to see if it is able to move up the steepest street in England using the clutch up first method.
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00:00 The street
00:45 I nearly fall over
01:10 What I will do
01:58 Hill starts
01:24 Wheel spin
04:57 Why I say gas
05:23 Without stopping
06:03 Gas before clutch
07:57 Outro
So you went all the way from Colchester to Bristol just for filming a tricky hill start? I'm appreciate your great effort! 👏🏻
Yes, it took the whole day, a long day.
It was an up hill struggle!
If I was cynical and know Richard to be a hard working ADi and part time motor trade member I’d think ‘ mistress over there ‘ lol. Sorry Richard
These days cars come with HSA making this slightly easier...
@@ConquerDriving you madman😵
Damn
My anxiety levels went through the roof when those people came out the house and were looking haha
They found it very amusing.
That's probably their favourite form of entertainment lol
Me too I drive automatics for this reason hahaha, I'd get stuck somewhere and look like a div i know I would haha.
The locals must be thinking: Poor guy, still having trouble handling a manual
@@rdu239 not knowing he's the kratos of manual
ask peppa pigs dad, he always had that mad clutch control driving on that really steep hill back home
Truly the goat
No he is pig@@mark9294
I LOVE how him falling over has it’s own time stamp, makes the entire video just that more realistic
Imagine this hill when its snowed or rained it must be difficult
I wonder how the residents manage
@@shimasfaris2917 Judging by the direction the cars are parked they go around and come down the hill to park and to leave they just pull out and go down the hill also. Still would be sketchy as hell.
Probably impossible unless you have a 4x4
I have heard that some people tie their car to a lamp post.
@@shimasfaris2917 moving away.
This genuine emotion when you’re trying to move off without any gas was just so pure and that’s why I love your content
Huh? I think you're assuming too much
@@donaldsalkovick396 what exactly was I assuming…?
We in the Netherlands also learned to use the handbrake on steep hills. Especially when hill control didn’t existed. You can give a little gas and as soon as you feel it’s grabbing in to the hand brake release it and continue acceleration
De grap is dat wij nauwelijks heuvels hebben lol
@RealSweetKid LOL I get the confusingly funny "mistake' I made... But believe me where I live there are a lot of hills. Enough to make you not take the bycicle to work. Even enough to organise an Cycle race that is know for its thoughnes due to short and steep climbing. (Amstel gold race)
@@Maurice-mk5cl We got Smeysberg just around the corner good on to get used to it (Brabantse Pijl)
Its an AWEWSOME information!
Yes. I learnt from CZcams. And I use in India. In fact, I learnt biting point hill hold after years of driving. I always used handbrakes to start on an upslope!
I'm from Denmark, I was never taught to apply gas before clutch, nor was I even told you could do it.
I learned it myself after getting my license and my own car and just testing around, this is the only thing I feel like I wasn't taught properly.
If the hill is steep... well you need plenty of gas and be careful not to burn the clutch
but in some cars with less hp you need gas even on a flat surface to just start quick enough and dont block traffic behind you. which driving instructor forgets such an important technique?
@@VinceGatling Denmark is as flat as can be. But it should definitely be taught, because most small cars, no matter how new will need gas to clutch out in first gear.
waitaminute, do you have any hills in denmark though?
@@winnex317 I live in the Netherlands and my car will move when only lifting the clutch, I also reverse with using the clutch only. I was taught to reverse that way.
"not to prevent you from falling into the road" *falls into the road* 🤣
I know, I did laugh when I watched that back.
Amazing 😂
I've just passed my test. I thought i'd failed at one point when I rolled back while trying to get some gas on a steep hill. Luckily no one was behind me so it was only a minor... this looks like hell to me haha
I just recently passed last week aswell
nice one mate
Congratulations on passing!
Use your handbrake
Could you not use your handbrake?
From watching your videos I can tell that my instructor knows what he is doing, as he taught me about always giving a bit of throttle in order to be able to drive ALL manual cars, and not just new ones.
Now, that's what we call a commitment 👏👏👏 thank you so much for the travel you made for a video, Richard, it was very interesting to see and that steep hill reminded me of some roads in my country 🙄 hope it was a great experience for you as well and glad to hear your car wasn't damaged after all 👍
Oh my word, I've never seen an impossible hill start!
Canon man we have way worse here and we get to drive it everyday
Its only impossible if you use the approved driving method that an instructor is basically legally bound to use. If you aren't bound by "driving correctly" you just floor it and use the clutch to control the wheel spin.
Drivers in North India mostly do this with ease with severely underpowered vehicles. On UK and India roads, small lanes could be scary, but makes you so much more skilled. Luckily no “F150s”. Barring lane discline and other things though(India)
I was taught to use the HANDBRAKE when doing a hill start (in a car with no hill start assist). With the hand brake engaged, find bite, add throttle, release handbrake, add more throttle + gradually bring clutch up all the way as the vehicle moves. Easy.
Same for over here in NZ, as just using the clutch with it just idling is not a good idea - at some point the engine will stall and roll back depending how step it is.
Sort of the same here except add a little throttle at same time as finding bite
Same, also the cars definitely didnt automatically add gas when I passed my test. I will need to test my car to see if it does, never noticed it.
@@Subvenio Most Traders vehicles have Auto Throttle.
Diesel Engines should Idle and Go from Standstill requiring NO Accelerator.
Caressing the Throttle👍......None of this VW Golf Rev &Go 💩💩
I'm from South Africa and I've learnt a lot from your videos, thanks a lot Richard.
These videos are very helpful also to those that have recently passed and have purchased an older car like myself. I have a 2005 ford fiesta and it is very different from driving an assisted kind of car to having an old car that does not have any of these features new cars have. I drove in my car today and stalled it twice on a hill and it stressed me out a lot because I always used clutch control in my instructors car that has power assistance on it but going to an older car that does not have this I find it very difficult to get out of junctions fast without stalling the car or going super slow. I am planing on practising this tomorrow so we will see how that goes but thank you so much for your videos!! They are so much more helpful than a lot of other videos I have come across. Thank you so much for helping us not so good drivers learn something new everyday! much appreciated
Hey Richard, I passed my driving test today on my second attempt! It's been such a journey but I just wanted to say a massive thank you because you're videos have been so helpful for me, cheers!
That's fantastic news! Thank you for watching and congratulations on passing!
Congratulations! Passed mine a year and 4 months ago. Drive safe.
When I was a learner 20 years ago, most cars has a handbreak and uphill start like that would definitely with handbrake on so no rollback for whatever reason, then release the clutch and apply gas at the same time slowly. When the car has enough power going up, the handbrake is released and you continue to apply more gas and release the clutch completely.
Indeed, the idea of having gas added when you step on the gas pedal is such a cool idea - I learned the handbrake trick because my first car was manual several decades ago, but first my father made sure I could start on a hill from first, second, and third gears. It’s all about knowing your car’s clutch very, very well. Interesting to see the differences in advice between US and UK teachings, and to see modern manual techniques since we sadly have almost no manuals in the US these days.
@@nimue325 wow from 2nd and 3rd gears? RIP clutch - there would be no torque at those gear ratios. a hill start must ALWAYS be in Gear 1 - no exceptions. Any other gears would put serious strain on the drive shaft, gears themselves and esp the clutch - ohhhhhhhh the burning clutch smell will be something to look out for in Gear 2 or 3 😬
@@fireWireX4 Sure, once I knew how to drive it was always start in first. But learning about the machine’s performance, learning to really feel the clutch and how to slowly let it out and notice when it is just about to catch without any damage to it, was the stress-test of the lesson. No smell, no sound, just gentle starting up! Never heard of a problem like spinning wheels, maybe because you have to be equally gentle on the gas.
And then there was this one time my gear shift somehow … fell down through the floor board … and I had to drive home entirely in third to replace a single screw. So it did come in handy directly. 🤣 But that was really never the intention, I swear!
Yeah. I wonder why he didn't mention using the handbrake for cars without hill hold assist. There's no other way, especially if there's a car behind you.
The first time i used handbreak for that i stalled and i always find it easier without it
02:03 - Can we take a minute to appreciate this man's sartorial excellence.... those socks are pure class!
This hill must be an absolute joy in winter 😂
Oh god
After a year and a half.. and 36 years of age. I finally PASSED! 2nd time.. As well as my amazing instructor, your videos have helped me so much. Thank you!! I don't think I will be trying this hill anytime soon but at least I know how now! Haha. Honestly, these videos have kept me going and definitely played a big part in my pass today. As a child who was nervous and didn't have a lot of resilience, I didn't think I would ever get in a car and drive.. let alone pass. So once again, THANK YOU!!!!
That's fantastic to hear! Thank you for watching and congratulations on passing!
wd enjoy 😁
Now go buy a m2 and go crazy 😂
@@MJT-DA I've got my husbands car.. very lucky Audi A3. He's buying a new one. I drove to work today for the first time!
@@Lynseyhogan1 wow that’s awesome! I’m guessing the 2.0T 4 cylinder those could be fun to drive. I get scared from audis cause of the piston ring issues they have.. I guess your husband must take very good care of it then.
I've done a hill start at the bottom of this street a couple of times. In the late 1990s, I was on a three week progressive driving course based in Devises. The instructor took us to Bristol specifically to have some fun on this hill. The 3 litre Vauxhall Senator had real problems, wheel spinning almost all the way up. The only car that managed it with any assuredness was a 4wd Vectra. Fun days!
There's a few hills I've travelled on (In wales) that give me this vibe. Short, but extremely steep in places. My driving instructor used to take me to a somewhat steep hill to practise this stuff specifically, as the area I was taking my test in was everything but flat and straight road. I got used to having to make the minute adjustments with both the clutch and accelerator to get these down pretty well. You know if it wasn't a good because you'd start rolling lol, and that was super freaky
The worst hill was when I was at uni and my mom was driving (shes much better than I am) and we took a 'shortcut' back to campus. There were no houses, just hedges, and it felt like we were going to tip over backwards, at one point it was so steep you couldn't see the road, just sky and the tops of hedges.
Living in Bristol in the 1970s and '80s, I remember that whenever I got a new vehicle, I'd always try it out on Vale Street.
1974 Bedford Viva van: no problem.
1973 Land-Rover: built for it - couldn't have been easier.
1968 Morris 1100: stalled, but managed it on about the third try.
1974 Rover 2200SC automatic: no problem.
1979 VW LT35 van: just sat at the bottom of the hill and spun its clutch - a complete refusal, which was a bit of a surprise.
Happy days ...
I must say your tutorials are very very helpful. I personally passed my driving test thanks to the tips given by you. I've also recommended your videos to my family and friends as well. This is really a great service. Thanks so much!!
my personal hell
Oh yes
Oh hell yes😂
Mine too
mmmm i love the smell of clutch
my wife left me
Just passed my driving test. These vids were, like everyone says, very helpful. Thank you
That's really great to hear. Congratulations on passing!
Back in the 90's I was taught to give it some gas before lifting the clutch. It's essential if you're driving an old low powered/low torque classic.
I just bought my first car last month and it's a 6 speed manual transmission, I learned to drive manual but it's been years since I drove one and your videos helped me so much! I live in a VERY hilly part of Canada 🇨🇦
When even a professional driving instructor is struggling on this hill, is giving me back some hope.
"... not to prevent you falling into the road" *falls into the road*
LOL!
There are some pretty steep hills in New Brighton where learners go.
I don't think I was ever shown to roll away with the bite first then to accelerate. I was always shown to keep handbrake on, then reach the bite point with clutch and accelerator, then remove the handbrake and away I go.
Also good that you cleared up the "gas" situation. My instructor used to say that too. When going up a hill and not going quick enough he would just keep saying "gas... gasss... gasssss"
But I prefer accelerator.
I recall when I did my driving lessons, I got an exercise to park and drive away on a steep hill. I was taught to put it on hand brake, clutch in and give gas. Then slowly engage the clutch until you feel it pull, but before the point you start rolling as you don't want to kill your handbrakes obviously. Then you release handbrake, give gas and engage the clutch, you drive away without rolling back :-). It's super handy when you have to travel through mountainous villages
Hey Richard, wanted to say a massive thanks to you for your content, it would be an understatement to say you helped. Embarrassed to say im 38yo, had a bit of a turbulent life so i first had a handful of lessons at 17yo, lost my job and some other things happened throughout life, I had one lesson about 10 years later then had to stop again, been about 10 years again passed and i took around maybe 10 hours of lessons watched a lot of your videos, studied them meticulously, religiously, i like to think of myself as a good student and i wanted as much of your knowledge as possible, I feel you do a pretty exceptional job at handing this to us in your videos. I sat my test a few weeks ago and got it first time, 5 minors, stupid ones i only make on a bad day which i had tbh, and it was raining, and there were cars pulling out when they shouldnt, people crossing when they shouldnt, i got my wish for bad conditions and random difficulty multipliers lol, after these years i had a point to prove, thanks for helping me make it, going to keep watching your content to because i do really enjoy it, and theres plenty still to learn for me.
That's really great to read! Thank you for watching and congratulations on passing!
Thank you for sharing, I've got some breaks in my driving as well and we are similar age so your story gives me greatly needed courage and hope I can get my pass as well 💪
Congratulations to you and I totally agree what you've said about Richard's channel - it is a real gem on YT 💎
Good job on passing. 👍🏾
Passed 19 years ago, have always put a little bit of throttle on whilst pulling away. You can get away without it if it's downhill, or modulate it for even less if it's flat. My dad taught me clutch control in a private car park at 16, learnt how to pull away without stalling in 5th without using the throttle, it really helped me learn clutch control!
I got my license 5 years ago now, but I still learn from your videos
I learned to drive in 1972 and Mrs Turner my driving instructor called it the gas pedal. So you are not alone. My dad took me to the steepest hill in our village in the Pennines to practice hill starts in his Cortina 2000, just clutch and gas pedal.
Imagine having to deliver stuff to the area frequently... By the way, I passed my driving test! I used the clutch control method most comfortable for me (like you recommended in your clutch video). Thanks for all the help you provide with your videos. And all the entertainment I can get from them now without the stress of an upcoming test.
That's great to hear! Thank you for watching and congratulations on passing!
i would assume delivery drivers mostly have automatics in that area ig
@@alyx6427 Yes we do, it doesn't help that much. More detail in my comment but nose/tail striking, axle chatting, inadequate handbrake, burning auto clutches and having to physically climb into the back of the van were all problems. Totterdown can go to hell.
Canon man we have way worse here and we get to drive it everyday
Just about a year ago I was always here on this channel learning how to drive a manual, I became perfect and turned into an Uber driver after a month or two and I got good ratings and comments for good driving.
I'm here to say this channel helped a lot and I do appreciate. Thank you very much
Thank you :D I'm using my brother's account I turned 18 today and I already got my driver's license thank you very much :) now I know how to get up on these steep roads and finally buy my crisps on that store
Passed today with only 3 minors, I’ve been watching your videos religiously every day for the past few weeks and I only had 16 hours worth of lessons! You my friend are incredible! Keep up the amazing work!!! I literally couldn’t be happier! Thank you so much 🙂🙂🙂
That's fantastic news! Congratulations on passing!
@@ConquerDriving thank you 😊, I will still continue to watch your videos. 🙂
You are a pioneer of car videos! This is getting more interesting & creative all the time!
22yrs ago, before the age of all of these electronic driver aids, I too was a driving instructor. And back then, the hill start taught was always a bit of gas, clutch to biting point, handbrake off, observation checks, signal, increase gas, clutch up smoothly, gas as required.
However, that did rely on an efficient handbrake, and wasn't normally executed on a 1:4 hill! I'd bet than a lot of cars handbrakes would struggle to hold on a hill like that. It reminds me of the hill up from the Carey Arms at Babbacombe, Torquay. Lots of drivers would walk down to get their car and leave their partner at the pub. However, after then stopping to pick them up, many then struggled to pull away again!
Honestly, this video was worth it because today i was training alone on a steep hill and I stalled so many time before finally being able to move the car (I did the handbrake method). I I was very upset. but by watching this video, I am it comforted. 😅
Passed 1st time today! 2 minors. Just came to to say thanks as your videos have been a massive help. 👍🏽
That's fantastic news! Congratulations on passing!
Starting from a hill is the scariest part of driving a manual car for me. But since I learned from you how to balance it using only clutch and gas pedals (without using break) I feel much more confident now. And it's even fun to do it when stopping before roundabout, so I can start quickly with no delay. Thank you!
Using your clutch instead of brake is horrible for the clutch. It will cause excessive wear. Just use the handbrake if you don't have hill assist.
@@sitofak for short amounts of time it's fine but only do it when you know you're going to move soon
@@Smokey-A yeah and i would also say high blips of revs help your clutch out rather than sitting on bite with little gas
@@straincheck4023 I could be wrong but over revving while holding the biting point can lead to the clutch burning faster
@@Smokey-A yeah you’re right, I meant dropping the clutch and coming back to the bite
I appreciate that Mazda made the decision not to add gas for you. I was taught to add a little gas, find the biting point and then release the handbrake when ready back in 2009 (don't really do that now that I've mastered it). My 2016 Civic Type R is straight up to 1,500rpm as soon as you touch the gas to move off. If you don't touch the gas, it'll add a little bit too which is handy for slow moving traffic. I can't remember ever stalling it in the 4 years I've had it but I really did hate losing that control to start with, especially in something considered fast and sporty.
I learnt to drive in my instructors diesel i30 and it didn't need any accelerator at all. Was an absolute pain to drive any other car until I decided to do the rest of my lessons and my test in my own car. Had my license for about a month now and have only stalled once or twice, had no issues with hills too.
A hill start is tricky enough but I just found that moving backward uphill can be even trickier! I nearly bumped into the car in front because I kept stalling when trying to move backward on a considerably steep slope in South London. Every time I stalled my car moved forward a little and I stopped trying when my number plate was 1mm from the car in front of me (my car does not have hill hold assist). I finally got out of the situation by trying my luck last time after watching videos from this channel and others, so thanks a lot for all the efforts you have put in making this video!
You need to use the hand brake if you don't have hill hold assist. (Engage handbrake, apply gas, clutch to bite point, disengage handbrake) That way you don't move downhill when you release the brake.
Sounds like a tricky situation.
On steep hills I let go off the clutch (carefully) until its bite point, while still pressing the brake. When I lift my foot from the brake, the clutch will keep me in place without stalling and I can then add gas.
Or like sitofak said, you can use the handbrake.
You can learn either way honestly but I think you're right, it's definitely easier to learn to pull away from a stop when you apply some gas first. The best way to learn in general is to start with the easiest technique possible and work your way up to the more advanced techniques of a particular skillset. Pulling away without any gas is pretty useful for learning the bite point on the clutch pedal though.
I agree, easier first is usually best.
yup. plus when you dont use gas in an unfamiliar car and stall, you only get closer to finding the bite point. starting off with clutch only is the best way for any unfamiliar car
Thank you. I feel more confident about tackling that hill now. I'll be doing it on my bicycle.
Gas before clutch is such helpful info because i was learning in a 2020ish hyundai i30 1.6t and the ecu added throttle for me while lifting the clutch slightly and when i moved onto a 2013 rav4 2.5 i instantly stalled because it didnt add any throttle when i lifted my clutch
You're best off with a decent diesel. I passed my test in a Peugeot 309 1.9D, back in the day. I could drive down the road on the bite point alone without the engjne straining. So much low-down torque was the key.. such a comfortable, easy car to drive. So incredibly ergonomic too!
Electric cars are even better.
@@ChristofferETJ 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Mercedes Benz Diesels are better.
@@P00katube Which engines and models in particular?
@@mbz4652 The 300SD/TD (In line 5 Cylinder) and the 1986/87 300TD with the Inline 6 Cylinder)
2:42 the people in the background literally staring. probably thinking what an evil instructor that is trying to teach hill starts at that hill 😅
😂
5:00 In Germany we also say "Gaspedal", even though we dont call the fuel gas.
That's all of Athens... plus a stop sign ALWAYS, quite possibly even a sharp turn 🤣.
That's the reason I've kept off the roads here. Hope your videos give me a push!!! Literally
The steepest hill I've driven on was when climbing the Great Orme summit in Llandudno, Wales. Going back down was the scary part hoping my breaks don't fail.
Also no car I've driven adds gas for you when you move off.
I learned to drive in the 1970s,the accelerator was called the "gas pedal" then, also learned to do a hill start on a steep hill, using gas and bringing the clutch up to biting point and then releasing the hand brake and moving off, it was also part of the test, only a few years before that hand signals were included in the test
Thanks for the advice on the gas topic. In my driving school ive driven a 123kw golf 8 and usually id be enough just to lift the clutch a bit and a car would roll. Now ive bought a 1.4 golf 6 with a mare 80hp and the clutch lifting mechanic does not work here, so now im practicing giving enough gas when im about to move the car. :)
Imagine having to do this on a driving test
I doubt they would....
@@fireWireX4 that's why they said imagine
I imagine a couple months of practicing this during your driving lessons should mean your able to do it; whether you can do it during the pressure of a driving test though, that's another story.
@@polaroidandroidjeff6383 four clutches laterrr
I did. I live in Sheffield a very hilly city.
So good watching these when u have ure license:)
this is definetly one of the funniest videos you ever made, such memeable moments
As a new driver who lives in Bristol, and doesn't have hill assist, I appreciate this content 😆
I live in Bristol and currently doing my masters in advanced driving after passing the initial AD test. Interestingly, hills didn't come up on it (apart from blind summits which is a different thing of course). But makes me wonder how I'd do, I'll have to drive up there soon 👍 cool video
When I was learning back in the late 90's my instructor had me come here twice, it's mental.
Good luck with your advanced test. Is it IAM? I took my IAM test abut 10 years after passing my ordinary test and was pleased that I passed first time, after I'd only passed on my third test for the normal test. The hardest thing I had to unlearn was the stupid change-down-sequentially-through-the-gears which the normal test expected when I took it (1981). Now it's second nature to brake almost to a halt in (for example) sixth and then go directly into third, second or first according to what the road conditions need as I'm about to start accelerating out of the junction. I was once filing som driving scenes for an amateur video that a group of us were shooting for a night-school course, and people said "You're doing it all wrong - you look too skilled and professional" So I had to deliberately revert to sequential changing down and throw in a bit of crossing my hands on the steering wheel. Nowadays, the ordinary test allows direct 6th-to-2nd changes etc. My instructor for my normal test was an ex police Class 1 driving instructor before he retired and after I passed, he gave me a lesson on how to drive *properly* rather driving to pass the test - that's what first got my interested in doing the IAM test. I wish I'd phoned him up when I passed the IAM test because he'd have been chuffed that one of his pupils had done the IAM test.
I lived in Bristol for several years because I was at university there. I never encountered the steep hill. I'll have to look up on Google Streetview and see where it is.
It’s also still mostly called a ‘Gaspedal’ in German. It got its name because it originally controlled the airflow through the carburettor (‘Vergaser’, literally gasifier).
For the first few hours of my driving lessons I didn't add any gas before I started rolling. It was possible to get moving that way, but the whole procedure was taking too long for me to perform, especially at a crossroad. Giving it a little gas first made the whole thing much easier.
I learned to drive in a modern turbo diesel car that assists with gas but doesn’t have a hill hold assistant. So I always hold the clutch almost at bite point, then give gas, then hold it in bite point on a hill and then let it go. Sometimes in extreme cases, handbrake is also can be used as a hill brake assist but in a underpowered turbo diesel car the engine is useless without turbo pressure, so I suggest that letting the engine to rev up a tiny bit and then let the clutch go, so it will be easier going uphill. The car I drove is a 2012 Ford C-Max 1.6 TDCi with 6 speed manual. Quite heavy car for 1.6 litre engine. I have driver’s license since 2018 but I like watching these videos.
Wow! I've been driving since 05, but this road and your car (I had the estate version as a hire car) is giving me horrible flashbacks of my first attempt driving on the wrong side of the road in May this year in Lanzarote. I gave up and handed the car back after a day as I felt like I was a liability!
I'm familiar with the roads in Lanzarote. Can well understand you, they are often tricky.
I appreciate how you must have felt driving on the wrong side of the road. Before I went to France I practiced this on the M1 and it was bloody dangerous 😂
The last part is very important imo. When I was taught to drive , it was always clutch before gas . Only on hill starts then I was told to give a little gas , release the clutch to near bite then release handbrake. Overtime , I found that I didn't need to use the handbrake and was practicing 'riding' the clutch on small hills and thought that I'd mastered the manual.
That was til I drove my friend's modified Evo X with an aggressive clutch. I kept stalling and stalling and stalling and it made me feel SO confused . It felt like the clutch did NOT have a leeway or 'gap' as the clutch 'bites' very easily . So I had to always have to rev it till 2-3k before trying to move off and it was near impossible making it smooth and practicing made my leg cramp lmao.
Till this day , i'm still afraid of driving it ..
Thats the beauty of manuals, despite the technological advancements on modern car models, the clutch biting point will always be varied in different vehicle types, models and brands. Its a never ending learning curve.
@@rdu239 Yea , However it's more of a fear that has been instilled in me.. With enough practice I couldve sorta made it smooth but hill move-offs in that car still gives me anxiety
Ah thank goodness, I thought I was going barmy. I was thinking what's wrong with this instructor? He's not using his handbreak, letting out the clutch to bite then giving a little gas while releasing the handbrake. That's how my Dad taught me, although that was 34 years ago! I guess some modern cars do it for you... except when they don't!
Thank you. Even though I have my license since 6 years ago, I still learn something new from you like a throttle tap for a start of acceleration and this throttle assist that you mentioned. My car has that throttle assist feature.
I used to live in bristol, the area and nearby hills have many roads so steep that some cars just wont pull away or the handbrake slips when you try and use it to pull away without applying it with foot hard on the brake pedal. A driving instructors dream location!
Had to ask passengers to get out the car once as my underpowered astra would not pull away without stalling or spinning the wheels.
It would have been interesting to hear from some of the people who live on this street about how they find it. I also see there were give way lines at the top junction so you have something else to worry about once you get to the top of the hill 😱
I used to live a few meters from the top of the hill. You generally just try to avoid driving up it! Just a little further on you can go up a less steep hill and then come around and go down instead of up.
Bristol taxi driver here. It’s terrifying the first couple of time and on the way down you’ll always scuff your front bumper at the bottom.
Why not use handbrake
I have been driving for 18 years and only just learned that some cars add gas for you! I remember being taught to add gas to give it some revs, then release the clutch to the bite point. It took a while to learn the 'feel' of the biting point. The cars I have owned since have always required me to add my own gas while releasing the clutch, otherwise you stall. I've learned something new! Good to know for when driving other vehicles.
Yeah, that was hardest part for me, i got my license driving only with Diesel, when my parents gave me their gasoline car, i stalled or did a wheelspin nearly every time when starting to move. I'd definitely agree with this guy to learn to use gas with clutch together
would be nice to see this on a driving test
I wouldn't even have thought of trying that without gas, I was surprised it almost got it.
Its a modern car with fly by wire throttle, the pedal isn't connected to the throttle butterfly. In conditions like this, the engine management system senses the engine is about to bog down and stall and opens the throttle itself, overriding the driver.
@@Zadster Still that's all under 800 rpm which is crazy
Thank you very much for your lessons. Perfect job. Respect. GOD bless you
You showed us exactly how to drive up a hill. Well done pal. You must be a really good driving instructor🫣🫣🫣🫣🥱🥱🥱🥱😂😂😂😂💪💪💯💯
Here is a video if you're interested: czcams.com/video/O3cTlwMytfU/video.html
Today was the third day of driving lessons. My dad was instructing and to my surprise I just learned to start a car on an uphill road and drive!
That hill doesn't look fun, interesting to see though!
I learned in a diesel, and my first car was a diesel so despite being taught initially to move away with gas I found it easier to just use the clutch. A few months ago I got a newer petrol car and quickly realised that I had to apply gas to move away smoothly!
Things must have changed a lot since I passed my driving test because we had to use the handbrake on a hill start.
Yeh same for me in 2010 😂 plus his steering wasnt how i was taught lol
On hill start assist cars the handbrake isn't needed, especially if it's an electric handbrake.
I do teach handbrake starts, this is usually best for beginners as hill hold assist takes some pedal skill to use and not all cars have this.
@@ConquerDriving Same here. I teach using the handbrake only on steeper hills. It just saves time using the idle speed to move off.
Just before my part 2, I got taught to use the parking brake more than I usually would. Now I did pass, but the senior examiner said, "At times I thought, oh no, he's going for the handbrake again. You're an experienced driver, you shouldn't be using it that much."
When I told him who I had been trained by, he nodded and understood.
Btw, I've been an instructor since the mid 90s, and we were taught to use the word "gas", then, too.
Same with me and I’ve covered over a million miles. I have no idea what this guy is trying to do, you hold on the handbrake and don’t lower until you have a good bite. Most experienced drivers would actually avoid this situation.
i use the handbrake when i've stopped at a steep incline. we also used this technique when i did valet parking since sometimes you needed to park on inclines and not have expensive cars rolling back into a wall or other cars.
when I learnt hill starts, I used handbrake as well. lowering handbrake at exactly the moment the clutch engaged, and applying sufficient power depending on incline. A skilled manuever to co-ordinate brake, clutch and power, but effective.
4:23 ahahah you can see the road is also all scraped up from cars
....and why exactly would you ever not using the gas?
why exactly would you ever not using the grammar
@@BallerShortsHD😂😂
What you explained about the clutch and gas, I've literally been going through this, we got a 2010 Ford Fiesta a few days ago and I learned to drive in an Audi A3 that does it all for you. When we took the Fiesta out for the first time I kept stalling!
This video may help: czcams.com/video/UdTSRBJrw7Y/video.html
i also have hill start assist on my octavia 3 and it's a doddle to start in a ramp. Oh, and it also helps that i have the 1.8TSI engine, it's stronger low down.
0:48 lmao
The first time my friend and I went up no problem, but the second time the wheel with least traction began to spin as we didn't have enough speed. Its a lot steeper in person than on camera.
The camera always flattens out hills.
@@ConquerDriving I recorded us going up the street then up vale street. It doesn’t look steep on camera. I passed with 2 minors in June thanks to your videos! Especially the what mirrors to check video.
I moved from the UK to NA and didn't even notice you mentioning the gas peddle until you mentioned it. Damn.
I can't even remember how I moved off in the Wrynose and Hardknott passes, it was so long ago, but would like to try this street.
The steepest roads I get my pupils to move off up are 20% ones in High Wycombe. There I tell them to get to 2.5k revs and _then_ find the bite point, but point out that, when they're used to they're own car, they will just do it all simultaneously, without thinking about it.
However, I was with a pupil behind some vans on a hill once and thought, "ah, they're not moving off because a learner has stalled at the traffic lights."
Then the vans started going the other side of the island and I could see that it was a bloke on his own in the car. I got my pupil to pull up and walked up to see if he was OK. He was a young guy (probably early 20s) and was panicking a bit as he said that he couldn't find the bite point. I suggested he get out of the car and I could try.
When the lights changed I managed to move off, but the bite point was very high, and the clutch felt a bit dodgy, not exactly slipping in an obvious way, but I still think it needed looking at and suggested that to him.
Mind you, when I've had clutches go, they haven't given a great deal of warning, usually brief high revs and then, within a few miles, that's it.
I'd be sweating bullets coming up that hill.
I'd just do a burnout the whole way, my car is rwd too so the weight would on the rear and that would help.
I cannot believe how steep this hill is 🤯
You have to see it to understand, when I first went to turn into it I was shocked, looked more like a wall.
hoenstly so steep, when there is rain on the stairs you would probably just slip and hit the bottom
@@fireWireX4 that's exactly what I thought as well, thanks for pointing it out.
This reminds me of my days as a delivery driver, some of the driveways I used to deliver to where simply not normal. For reference, I drive a 2006 Manual Ford Focus & one time I found my self delivering to this fella who's driveway you couldn't even walk up it unless it was dry, it was raining that night so my only way of getting up (as I couldn't walk up it without slipping) was driving.
Mind you, the focus has no hill start assist or any fancy tech, so I sat their for 5 minutes trying different ways to get up this hill spinning tyres and all until I tried going in reverse (since it's FWD, I figured placing the driving tyres at the rear of the car would help a lot as it's now pushing me instead of pulling). It was success but it was almost just as hard trying to reverse this thing up this driveway WITH momentum in the pitch black without crashing it, to top it all off the bloke didn't even tip me.
@5.11, i've always called it a throttle pedal since i've had my full licence since 1976 & also working on vehicles as a living on petrol & diesel & as a hobby
That’s your clutch your smelling not the tyres
Haha i think ur a new driver clutch never smells...right away....
Nope clutch was out, he was wheel spinning
It's not, clutch was out and the tyres were spinning.
It was his tyres
I think a diving instructor would recognize the smell of the clutch.
It’s accelerator not gas pedal! You’re not in the US.
With electric cars, accelerator makes more sense. Also as he mentioned instructors are taught with the word gas and it’s faster to say.
I’m a beginner at manual transmissions, and I’m in Madeira. Today I stalled the engine on a very steep hill and a bus was waiting behind me. It took me about 10 tries to get going without stalling, and the poor bus driver waited patiently. Nerve wracking to say the least
Thank you for the video!
The main thing to do in that situation is to remain calm (if you can!) and not get flustered. Everyone was a learner at some stage in the past. I've been driving 40 years and I still make the occasional mistake. The worst was when I was test-driving a diesel VW Golf (Mark IV, I think) which had a weird engine that would stall very abruptly if you let the clutch up slightly too far or didn't apply quite enough power, rather than struggling and failing to get moving, which gives you enough time to dip the clutch slightly and/or apply a bit more power to rectify the problem. It seemed to be by design rather than a faulty car, because I had the same experience in another of the same type a few years later. The salesman said "Everyone does that when they first test drive this engine." I think the engine-management goes into "computer says no" mode and deliberately cuts the fuel if you are at risk of straining the engine. It was bloody dangerous. I didn't buy a Golf. I did try a later model (maybe Mark V) and that was fine - it was jsut the pre-HDI "Pumpe Duse" engine that was afflicted with this childish, petulant "I'm to going to play" engine management unit.
All of Madeira basically is a very steep hill... so that's a very important thing to learn...
Thank for letting me know next time when i see this, just turn around.
I lived in Scotland for 5 years back in the days , I remember somewhere in Glasgow, Sauchiehall Street as if you are hiding west before the nightclubs there is an exact spot that I used to love going up there when it snows I remember having a 1988 BMW 325i sliding all the way up 😂,good old days .