Food Theory: Can You Kill Someone With A POTATO? (Dream SMP)

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    I know what you are thinking, did I accidentally click on a Game Theory video? Nope! We are talking about deadly potatoes and I've decided that all potatoes, even Minecraft potatoes, are Food Theory territory. If you keep up with the @dream SMP, you know where this is going. Recently, Dream seemingly killed @TommyInnit with a potato to the head. I want to know if that is a thing that could REALLY happen. Get your diamond helmets ready, this may get dangerous!
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  • @eucalyptus7566
    @eucalyptus7566 Před rokem +9173

    I was thinking he was going to compare actual potatoes, and see if an actual potato could hit someone that many times before the potato turned mashed.

    • @User_Here414
      @User_Here414 Před rokem +65

      Same

    • @zmord24
      @zmord24 Před rokem +233

      I was honesly dissapointed he did not do it

    • @5peciesunkn0wn
      @5peciesunkn0wn Před rokem +35

      same lol

    • @tourmelion9221
      @tourmelion9221 Před rokem +77

      @@zmord24 he could have brought in markaplier as a celebrity guest

    • @Scarker
      @Scarker Před rokem +202

      Seriously - all he proved was that you could beat someone to death. We already have the history of boxing for that. The question was whether a potato was a viable weapon, which went completely unanswered. He focused so much on kinetic impactors that he missed not only that it's a melee weapon, and he has to include the arm's momentum - but also that the potato has to survive in order to be used more than once..

  • @TheRealGuywithoutaMustache
    @TheRealGuywithoutaMustache Před rokem +4586

    It's all fun and games until Dream takes out a Warden using a potato

  • @TheAdvertisement
    @TheAdvertisement Před rokem +593

    Matpat's dramaticism of Tommy's death is funny considering he's been revived for like... nearly a year now.

  • @squidking762
    @squidking762 Před rokem +363

    I mean, you'd also have to take into account how the potato probably wouldn't survive that many hits and the fact that Dream undoubtedly hit Tommy in other less fragile areas, too, not just his head.

    • @EmmaPaigeJones
      @EmmaPaigeJones Před rokem +48

      and, you have to think about how many potatoes he had. If one potato broke, he most likely had multiple others. And how many injuries Tommy's c! character has received, lot's of head trauma in the past. If I'm not mistaken, wouldn't that lead to being injured wayyy easier? So the chances of death could go up.

    • @Liquidtrees53
      @Liquidtrees53 Před 9 měsíci +2

      You also need to account for energy absorbed into deformation of the potato

  • @madinsomniac5765
    @madinsomniac5765 Před rokem +1785

    Only matpat could find a way to feature dream smp on food theory…
    Edit: wtf is this
    Im not supposed to be funny

    • @mr.itzzzme4843
      @mr.itzzzme4843 Před rokem +3

      ikr

    • @hyperviolet1717
      @hyperviolet1717 Před rokem +46

      I mean the Dream SMP is so wild and chaotic at this point that you can pretty much find a connection between it and anything

    • @Wgrid93
      @Wgrid93 Před rokem +1

      Hope he its dream

    • @lilychang6527
      @lilychang6527 Před rokem +10

      Only mattpat can ruin my childhood he is the only person allowed to do that

    • @Whar9
      @Whar9 Před rokem +2

      Yup

  • @feristired8092
    @feristired8092 Před rokem +2697

    I think we forget the durability of potatoes. After a a few hits at that speed I would imagine it would eventually start to break and get weaker. Unless I missed that in the video, we should take that into consideration

    • @caseinnitrate5515
      @caseinnitrate5515 Před rokem +184

      This is exactly what I was thinking! Would it also depend on the temperature of the potato? As frozen potatoes are much harder than warm ones like the one dream had near a wall of lava lol

    • @Beau-Bo
      @Beau-Bo Před rokem +30

      @@caseinnitrate5515 but it wasn’t cooked 🤔🤔🤔

    • @ghty1293
      @ghty1293 Před rokem +78

      And Dreams been eating raw potatoes so he most likely will be malnourished

    • @grizlo6716
      @grizlo6716 Před rokem +44

      I wonder if lore-wise the potatoes were stale or at least not easily mashed, remember the prison has an automatic feeding system which periodically dispenses potatoes from a loaded dispenser, by the time of Tommy's death dream had been in there for months, those potatoes are probably pretty past date by then which might increase the spud's deadlines

    • @bluebirddown6102
      @bluebirddown6102 Před rokem +7

      Yeah, a lot of things could come into play for a simple explanation. At the least it’d have multiple scenarios- for example what you brought up. Then as someone else said, a cold or a hot potato?

  • @Sunnyb3st
    @Sunnyb3st Před rokem +20

    5:53 remember MatPat, this is a game where anyone can punch down a tree with their bare hands.

  • @qwerty4o4
    @qwerty4o4 Před rokem +148

    "A spud is only as powerful as the idiot behind it deciding to use it as a blunt force weapon."
    -MatPat, 2022

    • @heronfeather6895
      @heronfeather6895 Před rokem +7

      Except with Tommyinit, it was being weilded by a god, so- you can see why he died to it. HOLY POTATOE!

    • @user-bh5ce6cz7z
      @user-bh5ce6cz7z Před měsícem

      @@heronfeather6895No it was wielded by a cheater not a god.

  • @JohnFiala
    @JohnFiala Před rokem +1633

    Now I’m just imagining a gravestone that reads “death by blunt force potato”

    • @Soulfire702
      @Soulfire702 Před rokem +12

      Gee man you have bots. Let me get those for you. 😇

    • @jok6r
      @jok6r Před rokem +2

      @Don't Read My Profile Photo I did everything you told me not to do

    • @varimkadas6068
      @varimkadas6068 Před rokem +5

      Now that is a death to boast of to future generations ... 😉

    • @catroe
      @catroe Před rokem +2

      @Amber Heard 🅥 omg amber heard??? Now you can say Johnny beat you
      *yes I know it's a fkin bot*

    • @RaccoonOnToilet
      @RaccoonOnToilet Před rokem +5

      3 BOTS IN ONE ROW??? THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IM SEEING THIS, IM GONNA TAKE A SCREENSHOT

  • @theultimatecookie394
    @theultimatecookie394 Před rokem +3485

    I find it hilarious that you make a theory based on the weird logistics of Dream beating Tommy to death with a potato.

    • @bierymolina4379
      @bierymolina4379 Před rokem

      ._.
      Edit: This punch is more like a throw from .1 feet away at 25 MPH. Also, calculate the weight of the arm and the toughness rating of the potato 🥔.

    • @maybellesolidum2018
      @maybellesolidum2018 Před rokem +8

      that's true

    • @Whar9
      @Whar9 Před rokem +23

      Bruh the bots-

    • @Fl00fyd0g
      @Fl00fyd0g Před rokem +10

      @@Whar9 ikr so many help

    • @eduardpeeterlemming
      @eduardpeeterlemming Před rokem +5

      What about Technoblade?

  • @frederikhemmingsen1396
    @frederikhemmingsen1396 Před rokem +26

    Matpat you a couple of calculations. How about the "bouyancy" of the potato? A solid rock hurts way more than a soft potato even though they weigh the same.
    Also: A potato is not gonna last multiple hits at 20 m/s.

  • @temari2860
    @temari2860 Před rokem +10

    As many people said you should also take the potato's state into a count. Besides that there's also the surface area you're striking with. You will deal more damage if you land a punch with a sharper and smaller side of a potato, rather than a flat wide one. And also, in this scenario each hit will not have an equal probability of killing a person, since your overall health state will worsen after getting a strike, thus increasing your chance of dying with the next one.

  • @Lucky10279
    @Lucky10279 Před rokem +1111

    Just a sidenote: The actual probability of death would be even higher than MatPat predicted because he computed the probability of death from repeated blows assuming that each blow is equally likely to be lethal. However, it's reasonable to assume that later blows are more likely to be lethal since earlier blows will already have done significant bodily harm. To compute an exact number would require knowing how much the probability changes, but we can say the overall probability will certainly be higher than if the blows were all independent.

    • @syfj.
      @syfj. Před rokem +28

      but u must remember stamina as well so later blows will be weaker as well

    • @Lucky10279
      @Lucky10279 Před rokem +35

      @@syfj. Depends on how much stamina the attacker had I suppose. _Eventually_ the blows would get weaker due to the attacker tiring, but it's not necessarily the case that happens before the victim is already dead.

    • @slyq5046
      @slyq5046 Před rokem +30

      but he also didnt consider energy lost to deformation of the potato which makes a difference because that means less energy would be delivered per punch than calculated

    • @Lucky10279
      @Lucky10279 Před rokem

      @@slyq5046 Yeah, I guess there are a lot of variables to consider if we want to be super accurate. I don't really want consider the situation that deeply though, since, you know, it is about murdering someone.

    • @thesupernaturalhouse
      @thesupernaturalhouse Před rokem

      sont forget that the killer could just, you know, stuff the potatoe down your rhrought and choke you

  • @scarlettaguele4510
    @scarlettaguele4510 Před rokem +748

    I’m 100% convinced that this man’s search history must be so weird

    • @rohanpxo7516
      @rohanpxo7516 Před rokem +31

      The fbi agent is determining if casual geographic or matpat is the weirdest

    • @MaximeLafreniere433
      @MaximeLafreniere433 Před rokem +14

      FBI, CIA, NSA, etc.: "Yeah, it's a weird one..."

    • @chocmilk
      @chocmilk Před rokem +9

      He has admitted to clearing his search history regularly in one of the GTLive videos, I think, referencing the(I think its a decade old) boob video.

    • @BradenASDF
      @BradenASDF Před rokem +10

      not as weird as a fanfic writer's search history

    • @michaelvargo4991
      @michaelvargo4991 Před rokem +3

      I feel like it would be more boring than wired

  • @1bookfisher335
    @1bookfisher335 Před rokem +15

    I'd normally never watch a Dream SMP related video, but the fact that Gothi uses potatoes as a weapon in Fool's Gold (while she's a crazy old lady, that is) made it a necessity that I see this

  • @burgundybunnie
    @burgundybunnie Před rokem +16

    One minor miscalculation, and I don’t know how much this would actually affect the final numbers, but shouldn’t we be using slaps as a metric instead of punches since a potato would be in the palm of someone’s hand? With how big slap fighting has gotten thanks to Penguin0 I feel like those numbers should be easy to come by.

  • @mastronep
    @mastronep Před rokem +676

    I love how the comment section is actually computing logical arguments to dispute this theory

    • @burntcheerio18
      @burntcheerio18 Před rokem +7

      yeah 😂 i can't tell if i love it or hate it

    • @kaicollett6170
      @kaicollett6170 Před rokem +15

      We are dsmp fans what can I sau

    • @JenniferThissell
      @JenniferThissell Před rokem +4

      it’s actually kind of interesting seeing people try to dispute the theory

  • @elementsilver
    @elementsilver Před rokem +660

    very disappointed this didnt account for how the potato would hold up with those levels of hitting. on repeat hits you have less and less of a potato.

    • @xanaviii
      @xanaviii Před rokem +23

      Yeah, I was waiting for him to address how sturdy potatoes are. They seem like they're hard enough to last, but could still see it breaking.
      Felt like a pretty big oversight this time.

    • @itspranavk
      @itspranavk Před rokem +13

      The math is off too. Assuming there is no deformation and loss of potato, you still have more than 81.79% probability of survival. He missed the half in the formula and presented inaccurate results.

    • @schwiftywatermelon
      @schwiftywatermelon Před rokem +13

      to be fair dream had quite a few potatoes, so he could’ve been hitting him, dropping the smashed potato, then grabbing a fresh one

    • @JmKrokY
      @JmKrokY Před rokem

      Cool

    • @titanictnt7476
      @titanictnt7476 Před rokem +2

      So I get to beat someone to death, AND get mashed potatoes? Sign me up!

  • @itspranavk
    @itspranavk Před rokem +24

    There is an error in the calculation of kinetic energy. In 9:20, you calculated KE as 0.8*(8.1)^2 ~= 52.49J and missed the half in the formula. The correct KE per hit should be 0.5*0.8*(8.1)^2 = 26.24J, which gives us less than 1% chance of lethality. This implies the probability of survival per hit is greater than 0.99, thus with 20 consecutive hits, the probability of survival is greater than 81.79%. I love these videos but I hope in the future that all calculations are proofread since this completely alters the conclusion made in the video.

    • @schwachmatjauch3282
      @schwachmatjauch3282 Před rokem +2

      Thanks, wanted to comment the same thing.
      He also forgot the half in the first calculation using the 25mph

    • @dhwanilchaudhary7847
      @dhwanilchaudhary7847 Před rokem +1

      i just commented the same thing

  • @ZachariahMBaird
    @ZachariahMBaird Před rokem +19

    Wouldn't the potato break before his skull? We all know that it's possible to beat someone to death with your hands. What we're asking is would the potato absorb all the energy and break before inflicting actual damage.

  • @getbonked1917
    @getbonked1917 Před rokem +1025

    There are more fun things to take into account when calculating the lethality of a potato. How's the structural integrity of the potat? Is it frozen or not? Is the collision between potat and head elastic? And the mass of the arm throwing the potato punch will contribute with kinetic energy. And also you have to half the results in the energy calculations.

    • @zufieusagi7509
      @zufieusagi7509 Před rokem +49

      Also have to take into account point of impact and shape of the potato. Heck take a frozen potato and smack someone in the temple with it and I'd say they are more than likely down. And if frozen what's stopping someone from turning it into a very makeshift shiv?

    • @getbonked1917
      @getbonked1917 Před rokem +10

      @@zufieusagi7509 Yes indeed! Very observant of you my dear Sir.

    • @Speedyboi69.
      @Speedyboi69. Před rokem +5

      "Throwing the potato punch"

    • @ASleepyPianoBoi
      @ASleepyPianoBoi Před rokem +6

      “Potat”

    • @Lefty-qe2dq
      @Lefty-qe2dq Před rokem +3

      It should be youtuber tater but I will allow it

  • @kitdoesstufflmao
    @kitdoesstufflmao Před rokem +497

    I always knew having one potato on hand wasn't just an Irish stereotype lol

  • @PopeKurt
    @PopeKurt Před rokem +9

    I'd be interested in a part 2 talking about whether or not the spud would actually remain whole through all 20 strikes if being used to strike someone with that much force. If it breaks up, or whatever, how many strikes in, etc and how that impacts probability of death. Likely need to take some liberties as not all spuds are as dense or built the same, but still would be interesting.

  • @pajmxueb8559
    @pajmxueb8559 Před rokem +8

    Idea for a game theory episode (that I got while watching this episode 😆): should bullet bills arm be extended outward when he travels? Would his arms being at his sides entail he has more drag or some force that makes him be slow?

  • @Grace-uk9er
    @Grace-uk9er Před rokem +966

    A few things I'd take into consideration here: Dream had been in prison for I think two months at this point and the warden had taken to starving him. So he was bound to be a bit weaker. Then it's likely that the power in his punches would decrease as he got tired. And then there's that in Minecraft terms, Dream would have a lot of power cause he's good at pvp, so using like the power a boxer would have might not be too off. Then again, after taking into consideration his two months of prison and some starvation, maybe the average joe calculation might not be off.

    • @cookieguy3360
      @cookieguy3360 Před rokem +25

      he got crits too so 2hp each time Tommy got hit

    • @MrHanbam
      @MrHanbam Před rokem +28

      Idk if he was actually starving him then in game he would lose health. Starving is literally a feature in game so anything short of it is just hungry at worst no matter wat the story line said. Plus dreams character was literally a liar and cheater so would it really surprise u if he lied about starving for sympathy? Also I’d point to Iroh as an example of people getting hooked in prison as the opposite here

    • @bridgetmessina4462
      @bridgetmessina4462 Před rokem +9

      Also, we know that the ‘average’ Steve can punch down a tree with his bare fists without even trying and at any health

    • @greedier-7661
      @greedier-7661 Před rokem +6

      But in all of those calculations Matpat forgot that this calculation is for one punch as ion real life second paunch is much more damaging then the first. You can imagine it as first paunch is weakening the head to blunt trauma (especially the brain)
      Of course he also forgot that potato would be damaged by being used as a weapon and that when you paunch you use portion of your body weight and at least he would have to add weight of the hand that is holding the potato and part of the arm weight.

    • @worldTM_
      @worldTM_ Před rokem +1

      mid smp

  • @anapplepie306
    @anapplepie306 Před rokem +359

    Also, Dream isn’t just punching Tommy 20 times; Dream is punching Tommy until he was dead

    • @5lkp4
      @5lkp4 Před rokem +20

      Same thing?

    • @theflaminglitten-fo6jd
      @theflaminglitten-fo6jd Před rokem +30

      which...just so happens to be 20 times

    • @djsyntic
      @djsyntic Před rokem +25

      @@5lkp4 Not exactly. As the Flaminglitten points out it just happens to be 20 times. But if say Tommy regenned a bit of health, Dream would have hit him again.

    • @5lkp4
      @5lkp4 Před rokem +4

      @@djsyntic ok :)

    • @SpeedyCheetahCub
      @SpeedyCheetahCub Před rokem +6

      Exactly! If you consider how likely it is to die from being punched by a potato, Tommy actually got really lucky surviving as long as he did. Of course Dream would have kept punching him so it doesn't matter really how long it would take, unless of course you consider the potato being mashed in the process. In that case, however, Dream had multiple potatoes so theoretically he could have just grabbed another one and continued punching away.

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    @Writer_Productions_Map Před rokem +2

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  • @Ja-EdenCheese
    @Ja-EdenCheese Před rokem +3

    Speaking of weird deaths,
    My grandfather (a soldier in the Pacific war) killed a Japanese soldier by shoving his shoe up the mans mouth,
    The Japanese guy was so shocked he died of a heart attack.

  • @LT_Gam1ng
    @LT_Gam1ng Před rokem +157

    Matpat: a frying pan? What are you a Disney princess.
    Demo-pan: *exists*

  • @hydroblaze6352
    @hydroblaze6352 Před rokem +391

    Shouldn’t more than just the weight of the potato have of been token into consideration? What about the durability and squishiness? With this logic a wet sponge (therefore heavy)should be able to do the same

    • @mikekoehler9664
      @mikekoehler9664 Před rokem +26

      My thought was (in addition to the numbers seeming way off) a potato would deteriorate and no longer be a viable weapon after a handful of strikes.

    • @gojikranz
      @gojikranz Před rokem +5

      This is my issue as well. We need a follow up!

    • @midasbakker669
      @midasbakker669 Před rokem +3

      i thought the same because some potatoes are easy to crumble

    • @hannadmohamed3551
      @hannadmohamed3551 Před rokem

      You really thought you did something there didn't you I got one word for you: Holes

    • @hannadmohamed3551
      @hannadmohamed3551 Před rokem +2

      A sponge moving as fast as throwing a punch will send the water spewing and even when you hit you're just gonna squish the water out

  • @the_slayer2203
    @the_slayer2203 Před rokem +2

    Matpat: Gives Dream the punch speed of an average boxer
    Me: He is a warrior who has fought in multiple FRICKING WARS

  • @danhatter6823
    @danhatter6823 Před rokem +11

    Welcome to the theory channels, where this is somehow one of the more normal things we’ve covered.

  • @MeAdrian
    @MeAdrian Před rokem +776

    I think you're forgetting the aspect of how strong a potato is, You can throw a potato at the ground And it will break into pieces. Not only that if you do that multiple times the Potato would be mushy or something like that.

    • @blu3_magpi383
      @blu3_magpi383 Před rokem +38

      I believe that since the potato has a sort of "glue" or shield, aka the hand, it might be able to actually stay together. Also, potatoes are actually quite strong. However, in the situation Tommy and Dream were in, that potato isn't staying together lol

    • @aaronmccullers384
      @aaronmccullers384 Před rokem +34

      Also Dream did have multiple potatoes so he could have just rearmed himself if his potatoe weapon broke.

    • @skeepodoop5197
      @skeepodoop5197 Před rokem +31

      Also, store bought potatoes can be pretty hard.
      I've dropped potatoes on multiple occasions and the majority of the time, fresh potatoes barely bruise. Most other fruits bruise if you look at them funny, but potatoes are out here tanking falls like nothin.

    • @penumbra_2748
      @penumbra_2748 Před rokem +10

      I'd imagine that the potato was super duper hard from being in that prison for months

    • @bethanysingsmrs849
      @bethanysingsmrs849 Před rokem +10

      ive been kncoked out before by a potato trust me they dont just break that easily

  • @LegendaryFenrir
    @LegendaryFenrir Před rokem +225

    The real question is if this happened irl, would this still be possible compared to the durability of a raw potato?
    Wouldn't it be reduced to mush before the chances of death could occur?

    • @mickenzieking683
      @mickenzieking683 Před rokem +9

      There is an article about a man in Florida successfully using a raw potato as a weapon

    • @bloopduped
      @bloopduped Před rokem +11

      @@mickenzieking683 dream’s from florida, righr? are we
      sure thats not him lol

    • @leoSebDelg35
      @leoSebDelg35 Před rokem +4

      Some spuds are as hard as a rock when fresh

  • @johnwoodgate7595
    @johnwoodgate7595 Před rokem +5

    I feel like the structural stability of the potato itself would be a major factor. I would like a follow up video about potato toughness please 😁😁😁

  • @mathildaandersson1341
    @mathildaandersson1341 Před 9 měsíci +2

    0:16 I have a cast iron meat tenderizer with a steal axe blade on the back.
    Think that’s gonna be more than effective enough.

  • @cantaloupegodling352
    @cantaloupegodling352 Před rokem +184

    This should have been a kitchen episode where Matpat and an unnamed intern find out just how many swings is optimal.

  • @Toadzx
    @Toadzx Před rokem +171

    Two things you forgot;
    1) the potato's durability (it would break before you do).
    2) the fact that the potato is not doing any damage in game, all that damage is coming from the fist holding the potato, dream would have killed him in exactly the same amount of hits without holding anything.

    • @fredgopher1956
      @fredgopher1956 Před rokem +9

      Dream would do the same tiny damage holding anything not a tool or weapon, even a stick would be the same. This theory is still fun tho

    • @aussieproductions1422
      @aussieproductions1422 Před rokem

      if you mean durability as in "if this were actually happening wouldn't the potato be smushed/otherwise ruined", its also important to note that Dream had more than one potato-- I'm not sure exactly how many but Dream gave Tommy at least 6 so we can assume he had plenty. Even if every single hit destroyed the potato, he'd have enough potatoes to just use a new one each time

    • @kaleb749
      @kaleb749 Před rokem

      Yeah, I think it’s kinda ridiculous MatPat didn’t even take into account the mass of the arm. Seems like a glaring error

    • @mayo4217
      @mayo4217 Před rokem

      Hey man I have a suggestion. Can I cook some eggs on my ps4 WITHOUT BREAKING ANYTHING. Heck, could I make pancakes or something else?

    • @mayo4217
      @mayo4217 Před rokem

      Hey man I have a suggestion. Can I cook some eggs on my ps4 WITHOUT BREAKING ANYTHING. Heck, could I make pancakes or something else?

  • @TheAdvertisement
    @TheAdvertisement Před rokem +4

    8:15 Yes but those powers come from the revive book, he wasn't born with them and his necromancy doesn't increase his strength.

  • @Seagull110
    @Seagull110 Před rokem +6

    I tried Hello Fresh with my family and it was awesome! :) Its actually super cool that they deliver ready supplies for a whole meal :D

  • @distriyir
    @distriyir Před rokem +157

    A friend once told me: "Anything can be lethal as long as you just smack someone with it hard enough"

    • @ParadoxPerson02
      @ParadoxPerson02 Před rokem +15

      Exactly
      Imagine getting hit by a drop of water moving faster than the speed of sound right in the noggin

    • @RobloxBigHeadKing
      @RobloxBigHeadKing Před rokem

      @@ParadoxPerson02 Hmm i shall do research on that, I wonder if that would be similar to a bullet hitting you

    • @justaminecrafterontheinter390
      @justaminecrafterontheinter390 Před rokem +2

      So true. That is a grunkle Stan worthy quote. XD

    • @ParadoxPerson02
      @ParadoxPerson02 Před rokem

      @@justaminecrafterontheinter390 Okay, Now I can't not read that in his voice. XD

  • @OpelPower
    @OpelPower Před rokem +326

    The kinetic energy calculation is part of this, but that’s not the final answer. You also have to take into account the “give” of the potato, and the face as well as the fact the persons head would move back. All of these lessen the force acted on the person.
    Think punching a concrete wall, vs a sandbag.

    • @markojugoslavcirovic3460
      @markojugoslavcirovic3460 Před rokem +10

      when he was calculating the kinetic energy, I think that he also forgot to multiply by 1/2

    • @the1necromancer
      @the1necromancer Před rokem +11

      Also, the potato isn't being thrown, it's being used as a club. This means that just looking at the kinetic energy, the mass of the traveling object is even greater. Mass is spud + fist + arm for an overhead swing, and even greater for a punch - especially if the attacker uses their whole body to punch.

    • @jurandfantom
      @jurandfantom Před rokem +6

      PLUS: we need take account for potato hardness - its not a sponge but still will absorb solid amount of kinetic energy. Second thing: its quite likely that you can smash raw potato with your single fist blow, not mention a boxer punch that is stronger anyway compare to ordinary person.
      There is no chance that potato would survive more than 5 blows with above measurements. So he was hit bu way less energy that not caused potato to break. Deform? sure, but not break into pieces.

    • @okwhatisthis3776
      @okwhatisthis3776 Před rokem +1

      Also how much energy the potato is absorbing and how much the potato can take before getting obliterated.

    • @kzh3850
      @kzh3850 Před rokem +5

      Man this episode was a mess 😅

  • @DustyStarrs
    @DustyStarrs Před rokem +3

    got excited because I thought we were going to get pixel measurements that would determine the speed the potato is being hit at! Would've been a cool first for Food Theory and a fun callback. Still loved this wacky and fun theory

  • @averagejoe8358
    @averagejoe8358 Před rokem +3

    I think you missed out on another crucial piece of information in finding out the answer. Assuming it's blunt-force trauma to the head, where on the head specifically? Because the back of the skull is a lot thinner, and therefore it is easier to succumb to blunt force there rather than the front, which drastically decreases chance of survival.

  • @lordfunny2743
    @lordfunny2743 Před rokem +509

    I can just imagine someone dying to a potato and you know what would have been funnier in the story, if Tommy’s character was Irish
    Also potato durability please

    • @benwagner5089
      @benwagner5089 Před rokem +10

      Definitely need to assess the potato's durability. If I can hit someone in the face 20 times with a potato and the potato isn't damaged, good luck on my teeth doing anything to it. I'm more of the opinion that it was a rock covered in a potato skin.

    • @neutralplayeroflol5722
      @neutralplayeroflol5722 Před rokem +2

      @@benwagner5089 well it wouldn't work for you, unless you have a stack of spuds in your inventory

    • @Worldsapart410
      @Worldsapart410 Před rokem

      This has Accually happened with around 400 cases. Although it was of ingestion of an old potato and not of a potato being used as a projectile.

    • @LadyOnikara
      @LadyOnikara Před rokem

      @@benwagner5089 Or a coconut cosplaying as a potato

  • @badebias
    @badebias Před rokem +166

    Could be fun to see a theory, about if you could live in the long run, on a Minecraft diet.
    How long would you live if you started a new world.
    It takes time growing crops, but you also need to find the seeds first.
    Can't just live off of meat, without any sort of side effects.

    • @theonebman7581
      @theonebman7581 Před rokem +3

      YES

    • @yourshoulderdevil5229
      @yourshoulderdevil5229 Před rokem +6

      Or raw food, which I usually find myself eating when I've adventured too far.

    • @almighty7122
      @almighty7122 Před rokem +3

      this is a good idea i hope he sees this!!!!!!

    • @KittenLove536
      @KittenLove536 Před rokem +1

      not to mention that you can find berries and apples in the wild but those arent very nutritious for every single meal. And all the hard work you do in the early stages of a new minecraft world thus needing a ton of calories.

    • @not_sun_tzu
      @not_sun_tzu Před rokem +1

      Not only that, but until villager breeders and mass traders have been set up, which is pretty late game, you pretty much just eat steak, then you transition to golden carrots

  • @silvrnightingale
    @silvrnightingale Před rokem +1

    Okay, I know you said c!Dream's not a boxer , but c!Dream is a warrior, a strong leader (in the beginning of the series, anyway) and whenever he battles, it's with a sword. In fact, he's one of the best fighters on the server!
    Most often, we see him using a netherite sword. The crafting recipe for a netherite ingot is 4 netherite scraps and 4 gold ingots. A block of gold would weigh 19.3Mg (megagrams), so the total gold portion of the ingot would be 8.578Mg. As for the ancient debris, my headcanon is that it is the worn-out pieces of portal frames buried beneath the ground, hence why it's blast resistant and requires a diamond pickaxe to break. If that is true, then a piece of ancient debris would weight 2.55Mg. (2.55 × 4) + 8.578 = 18.778Mg, or 41398.4036 pounds, that being the mass of 1 netherite ingot.
    And to make the netherite sword, it's a diamond sword being upgraded with 1 netherite ingot. Now, I tried looking up how much a diamond sword would weigh, but I found nothing, so I calcuted the following on my own.
    A minecraft sword is, in theory, 3.25 feet long, or 990.6 milimeters. The width would probably be about 10 inches, or 254 milimeters. For simplicity's sake, we'll say that its thickness is about 1 inch.
    This brings the diamond sword to be about 2667.091 carats, or 1.8 pounds. Add those two together, and you have a sword that weighs approximately 41400.2036 pounds!!! Meaning Dream is getting a real work out swinging a sword like that around!
    Considering that, the potato would be mush within one hit and Tommy would have been dead within one hit as well, realistically, so Tommy himself must be pretty tough.
    (Note to add, I was mostly guessing the diamond sword size, but I think I was pretty close when you consider one minecraft block is 1 meter x 1 meter x 1 meter, making the guessing of a diamond sword's sizes rather easier than I originally thought, but I'm too lazy to actually check. This is just a general guess. I know I'm right about the netherite's weight. The weight of the diamond sword doesn't really make that much of a difference, anyways. Lol)

  • @Shizuko_Swiftail
    @Shizuko_Swiftail Před rokem +1

    I'm going to throw my hat in here. On top of what other commenters have said about the hardness and toughness of the potato, the impact of it, etc., there are a few factors here that are outright missing, though albeit in Tommy's favour. Firstly, the force you calculated was for just the potato, but Dream is HOLDING the potato as he hits Tommy with it, adding more mass to the object impacting Tommy's head. Secondly, there is the factor of the type of strike, a downward swing, and the fact that Dream was striking in the air adding the effect of Gravity to the force impacting Tommy with the potatoe. Thirdly, while admirable that you have used the average store-bought potato size for that, there are means of determining the size of a Minecraft Potato, using the fact that without an enchantment a plant gives up to 5 per cubic meter, and the cooking time of a Minecraft potato.

  • @pineappleudh6561
    @pineappleudh6561 Před rokem +91

    It's interesting because on the one hand, dream is one of the strongest fighters on the Dream SMP so he likely knows how to throw a punch.
    On the other hand, dream has been sitting in a cramped prison cell living on a diet of raw potatos for several months so he's likely alot weaker than usual and may even be malnourished.
    Still rather interesting that the potato likely would have killed Tommy, but I have to wonder if the potato would have broken first.
    All in all, killing Tommy, murder using potatos, I'd imagine this episode is Technoblade approved

  • @somerawlime
    @somerawlime Před rokem +366

    a few little notes: tommy was revived using the “revive book” a plot device that’s been known about months before tommy’s death, and also, dream has no powers at all, the world bending stuff is said to be done by a godlike figure known as DreamXD, a seperate entity from dream

    • @clawsky8952
      @clawsky8952 Před rokem +27

      Much dream-stan energy coming from this comment. Purge yourself from it before it’s too late.

    • @burntcheerio18
      @burntcheerio18 Před rokem +7

      i don't think that's the point of this video /nm

    • @somerawlime
      @somerawlime Před rokem +18

      @@clawsky8952 nah

    • @somerawlime
      @somerawlime Před rokem +16

      @@burntcheerio18 no but i am very focused on small details

    • @wr41th86
      @wr41th86 Před rokem +5

      @@somerawlime Same.

  • @connerkoiking
    @connerkoiking Před rokem +4

    Rest in peace technoblade.

  • @dhanking58
    @dhanking58 Před rokem +2

    What about the elastisity and compression of the potato? Those are some pretty big factors to consider

  • @iamnoob8835
    @iamnoob8835 Před rokem +237

    If this is game theory, I would love to see the actual speed of a punch by measuring it by pixels and 1 minecraft block being equal to 1 meter then having pixels of the potato get compared to other items via placing it in an armor stand an measure it against a block then once we have the measurements and convert them into irl measurements with 1 minecraft block = 1 meter being the formula then having calculations of lethality on where he got hit because at times it looked like he got hit in the chess while at times dream jumped and probably hit his head, that's all I wanna see but probably not gonna happen

  • @sciana21
    @sciana21 Před rokem +272

    MatPat my friend, you forgor to mention one detail: wouldn't the potato break? Or get damaged in another way? Wouldn't this be more fatal to the potato more than to the player?

  • @kellithompson7686
    @kellithompson7686 Před rokem +1

    Bro. Remember your video about Steve's strength for punching down a tree? Try doing the equation using the added variables of the strength Steve has/needs in order to be able to punch down a tree with his bare hands.

  • @titan5695
    @titan5695 Před rokem +1

    Hey Food Theory! A year ago you did a couple videos on Wall-E, with him being Satain and Canabalists. At the end of Wall-E, the people land back on Earth, and the movie ends by the people planting a sapling. I dont think a single sapling can feed a whole population, and the people are oblivious that they were eating other people, so my question is this: Would the people in Wall-E be able to find some sort of food in all the garbage, or would they stick to canabalism? And if they do find something to eat, what would it be and how long might it last, or if it would be bad to eat a bag of potato chips 666 years past the expiration date?

  • @UpNextDonum
    @UpNextDonum Před rokem +355

    I never expected a Dream SMP theory on Food theory of all places but I’m hyped!

  • @mightbeahuman3442
    @mightbeahuman3442 Před rokem +109

    a potato also took down a whole “company” in hermit craft, never underestimate the potato

    • @theguywhoshere
      @theguywhoshere Před rokem +7

      More like Grian, I swear he could break literally anything if given time.

    • @mightbeahuman3442
      @mightbeahuman3442 Před rokem +1

      @@theguywhoshere true 😂

    • @wolfgirl1996
      @wolfgirl1996 Před rokem +1

      @@theguywhoshere never underestimate the waffle.
      It will bite you in the end

  • @dylanclark1749
    @dylanclark1749 Před rokem +1

    A food theory idea: why can Dairy Queen’s blizzards be held up side and not fall out and also how long it can be held upside. You can also see what flavor stays the best in the cup

  • @_lsszmc_
    @_lsszmc_ Před rokem +3

    I love how this is just such a random food theory, and that’s how it’s so interesting

  • @strawberryduchess656
    @strawberryduchess656 Před rokem +68

    One of the most shocking/intense moments in more recent DreamSMP history and Matpat’s over here like “but can I do it irl tho”

  • @justinbuergi9867
    @justinbuergi9867 Před rokem +360

    Don’t ruin potatoes for me Matpat. They’re the only food I can still safely eat.

  • @user-fk8ok2hc2o
    @user-fk8ok2hc2o Před rokem +2

    after thorough tests (beating a mannequin with a potato) The potato itself tends to break and squash after each hit deceasing its effectivity.

  • @chandanaharim5837
    @chandanaharim5837 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Won't the potatoes get crushed after a few beatings?

  • @Venmer4
    @Venmer4 Před rokem +189

    Just a side note in the equation for kinetic energy you need to half the mass so the first equation would 50 joules and the second gives you 26 joules of kinetic energy.

    • @alexanderhiebert314
      @alexanderhiebert314 Před rokem +7

      Yeah was bout to say that

    • @auroralraconteur3312
      @auroralraconteur3312 Před rokem +29

      there's also the fact that the mass of the potato isn't the only thing being applied to the bashing. The mass of his arm would be too. Not to mention that the potato likely wouldn't stay solid for 20 consecutive strikes- Mat's sort of dropped the ball on calculating this one.
      This does however make me want to see a more Mythbusters approach, with a full on gel anatomy dummy being bludgeoned by some spud wielding MMA champs.

    • @liamrogers7485
      @liamrogers7485 Před rokem +3

      you also need to take into account that the debris from explosions may have the same force but it is not a potato and will also generally be sharper meaning that many of the fatalities from an explosions won't be one from a potato.

    • @lemonies1141
      @lemonies1141 Před rokem +2

      Love this comment

    • @mayo4217
      @mayo4217 Před rokem +1

      Hey man I have a suggestion. Can I cook some eggs on my ps4 WITHOUT BREAKING ANYTHING. Heck, could I make pancakes or something else?

  • @59master60
    @59master60 Před rokem +105

    Fun fact: during the pacific campaign in ww2, Americans threw potatoes at the Japanese as a distraction, and the Japanese threw them back thinking they were disguised as bombs. It took place at sea

    • @ventiss5727
      @ventiss5727 Před rokem +6

      In one of the wars the brits disguised muffin/cupcakes as bombs I’m pretty sure, so makes sense the Japanese thought the Americans were doing that
      Edit: I just realised what I said implies that they made muffins that looked like bombs.. not bombs that looked like muffins 😂 sorry, I’m not British, I’m mainland European, but I’m going to keep my mistake haha

    • @ihaveanamexd4466
      @ihaveanamexd4466 Před rokem +2

      Classic American tater bombs

  • @lgachaboyyt
    @lgachaboyyt Před 9 měsíci +1

    6:19
    Two things
    First off, is gravity and friction the same?
    Second, steve should be really strong

  • @skoopdewoop
    @skoopdewoop Před rokem +2

    spuds are super volatile, man. They can be cooked in any way. Fried, baked, murder, deep fried

  • @Yourboss3382
    @Yourboss3382 Před rokem +51

    "A theory about Minecraft"
    "So Game Theory"
    "Specifically Dream SMP"
    "...Which could be loosely defined as a film about a game so... Film Theory?"
    "Specifically the part about potatoes."
    "No, Mat, no. It's not Food Theory..."
    "It's Food Theory"

    • @sprinkleman8103
      @sprinkleman8103 Před rokem +2

      This isn’t about the potato war though. If it was then it would be about Technoblade and Squidkid

  • @KoJordanKo
    @KoJordanKo Před rokem +326

    With the amount of potato centric episodes we’ve gotten, are we sure this channel isn’t actually Potato Theory in disguise?

  • @The3rdMega
    @The3rdMega Před rokem +1

    Ima be real, the mining fatigue effect should be taken in consideration for the speed of the punch, meaning that the attack speed decreases by 30% in both cauculations due to the guardian boss effect.
    (The effect decreases attack speed by 10% × effect level, so 30% would be mining fatigue III, not sure which level it was in the scene)

  • @szariq7338
    @szariq7338 Před rokem

    There's several problems, both for potato and unfortunate face:
    1) Potatoes aren't like steel objects, they can be mashed after enough trauma. That means it cannot contact a target that many times, so it has to be covered by fingers and palm, which in turn leads to
    2) Kinetic energy isn't only carried out by a potato, but also your hand. And considering your bones are probably harder than a raw potato, but again
    3) How sturdy are your bones? They're not made of steel after all, how many bashes to the skull will it take to have a boxer fracture?

  • @said11.
    @said11. Před rokem +318

    i will solo the entire dream smp with a single potato after watching this video, thank you matpat

  • @theholychurchofgog3848
    @theholychurchofgog3848 Před rokem +89

    I’ve never been more scared of a potato in my entire life

  • @leolarson18
    @leolarson18 Před rokem +1

    one thing he's forgetting is that the chance of dying on exactly the 20th blow is the same as surviving exactly 20 blows if you have a 50% chance to die from each hit.

  • @FinalitysShape
    @FinalitysShape Před rokem +3

    “A frying pan? What are you a Disney princess?”
    Me: this would have been a perfect kushina reference… they’re so rare

  • @alicetatterwinged3427
    @alicetatterwinged3427 Před rokem +87

    c!tommy in recent lore: finally gets to tell c!wilbur about what c!dream really did to him in exile, who immediately comes up with a plan to essentially end what’s still left of the disc war and free c!tommy from c!dream’s power
    matpat: anyway remember when c!tommy got trapped in prison with c!dream and was killed and revived by him? yeah were not letting that trauma rest

    • @horrordoll.mp4
      @horrordoll.mp4 Před rokem +9

      I don’t c!know what the c!hell your talking about

    • @trianna_phoenix9013
      @trianna_phoenix9013 Před rokem +8

      @@horrordoll.mp4 c! Means canon like the canon character, it lingo to differentiate between the character and content creator

    • @Silent0nyx
      @Silent0nyx Před rokem +8

      @@horrordoll.mp4 even though i know that was meant to be rude, lmao. Got a laugh out of me.

    • @horrordoll.mp4
      @horrordoll.mp4 Před rokem +5

      @@Silent0nyx I slightly understand what they’re trying to say, but c! was used so repetitively I just had to say something-

  • @tronus8586
    @tronus8586 Před rokem +8

    06:20 Nooo matpat forgot to times the mv^2 by 1/2 :((
    (Basically it’s actually 50 joules, not 100 joules.)
    EDIT: He did it again at 09:20!! It should be 26 joules here

  • @zsoltsterczer6552
    @zsoltsterczer6552 Před 9 měsíci +1

    6:19
    As a man who really hates the imperial system, this made me laugh and VERY happy.

  • @ThiccPyro9413
    @ThiccPyro9413 Před rokem +2

    Honestly, tommy's death by potato was so funny I was in tears. I was actually questioning it too. If someone could die by a potato. XD

  • @violetseiks
    @violetseiks Před rokem +139

    never thought I'd see the day DreamSMP would be featured on Food Theory of all places, but here we are...
    thanks for reminding us of the trauma matpat

  • @mooncake8059
    @mooncake8059 Před rokem +58

    Dream SMP of Food Theory? Thats the last thing i could have EVER expected.
    I mean MatPat seems to figure out how to make content out of EVERYTHING he sees!

  • @fazetentacion794
    @fazetentacion794 Před rokem +1

    matpat : *describes a whole reason and odds about potatos*
    me : HES TALKING ABOUT THE DREAM SMPPPPP YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • @insane0042
    @insane0042 Před rokem +1

    This also without remembering that Minecraft "Steve" Characters routinely in cannon punch trees for wood directly.

  • @jimmyneutron6681
    @jimmyneutron6681 Před rokem +317

    MatPat has the best content on CZcams, and that’s not a theory, it’s a fact

  • @izzi5630
    @izzi5630 Před rokem +37

    Mat:
    "I know this lost suspiciously like 11th grade math"
    Me, just finishing up 11th grade:
    "OH DEAR GOD NO!!!"

  • @bedsheet1
    @bedsheet1 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I'm probably not the only one but in only a few punches Steve can punch down a tree so how is he normal

  • @dakotaharp883
    @dakotaharp883 Před rokem +1

    Matpat: Explains potato sizes
    Me: This is how government officials keep their jobs kids.

  • @hannahwilson6778
    @hannahwilson6778 Před rokem +92

    the fact that they put dream on the cover but not tommy has me dying 💀

  • @KadoodleLIVE
    @KadoodleLIVE Před rokem +106

    i don’t know if it changes anything, but dream and tommy both had mining fatigue due to the security measures in the prison, which technically would make their punches significantly slower, right?

    • @JustAntihelpful
      @JustAntihelpful Před rokem +17

      No, mining fatigue just impacts your ability to hit blocks. You can still fight at the same speed

    • @ethankong246
      @ethankong246 Před rokem +2

      @@JustAntihelpful no they changed it in 1.9 haste and mining fatigue affects attack speed try it out in crative

  • @sil-chrisredd2099
    @sil-chrisredd2099 Před měsícem +2

    8:53 MATPAT PREDICTED THE FIGHT

  • @nathanielgoldschmidt5297

    Hey May Pat can u do a video on- At what temperature can u melt a tuna? Cause like there are tuna melts but why isnt the tuna melted?

  • @itzQuill
    @itzQuill Před rokem +56

    1:25
    ‘You’re either reliving the moment in your head’
    Yep, the moment that one second Tommy was just being Tommy I left to get a snack and all I see is the death screen. Good times.

  • @chemical3621
    @chemical3621 Před rokem +44

    7:47 Dream is no stranger to being REALLLLLLY lucky when it comes to chance lol

  • @user-xh6cg7zf9h
    @user-xh6cg7zf9h Před rokem +1

    the potato likely wouldn't survive, and also the probability of fatality after each hit likely isn't an independent trial - once you're badly injured, even a weaker hit is more likely to take you out.

  • @Alex_1A
    @Alex_1A Před rokem +1

    7:07
    That's not logarithmic, both the top and bottom are exponential; specifically, the top is getting exponentially close to an asymptote (1 or 100%), while the bottom is getting exponentially distant from an asymptote (0 or 0%).

  • @calibandalsalan2360
    @calibandalsalan2360 Před rokem +130

    You forgot the fact that dream didn't hit tommy's head everytime.
    Also you could have calculated the true size of a minecraft potato based of pixels.
    Still a great video matpat

  • @KozyCorner1
    @KozyCorner1 Před rokem +101

    The leathality is somewhat still in question as a potato at that speed would probably turn to mush. Like is the average potato hard enough to both someone's skull in ?

    • @phantomcat1958
      @phantomcat1958 Před rokem +7

      don't underestimate the holy power of potatoes, they are stronger than your mind could ever understand.

    • @KozyCorner1
      @KozyCorner1 Před rokem +5

      @@phantomcat1958 My god. Your right, all these years technoblade has been teaching us of the potatoes yet I questioned the potatoe power. Forgive me potatoe lords

    • @KingKamal47
      @KingKamal47 Před rokem +2

      @@KozyCorner1 *You will not be forgiven*

  • @gamering149
    @gamering149 Před rokem

    i mean, i feel like i'd be a very good status effect inducing item
    The potato
    -When thrown
    2 damage (out of human's 1000
    Hurts alot
    Applies [Partial blinding] when head is hit (Making combos easier)

  • @vexaticious_void5771
    @vexaticious_void5771 Před rokem

    Food Theory/Film Theory/ Game Theory (?) Idea: how much of a potion can you consume in order for it to be affective?
    Because, one drop of a healing potion isn’t going to magically heal all your wounds, and a gallon seems overdramatic-
    So how much of a potion is considered one does, and would it differ from potion to potion?