Game Theory: Did Dream FAKE His Speedrun? A Final Analysis.

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    There has been a controversy brewing on the Minecraft side of CZcams centered around well known Minecraft creator Dream. He's been accused of faking his speedrun and it has caused a lot of stir. I'm not here to point fingers or accuse anyone. What I'm doing today, Theorists, is going over the facts of this situation and why it is a lot more complicated than people are making it out to be.
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Komentáře • 43K

  • @gghostin
    @gghostin Před 3 lety +3879

    Everyone: “Did dream cheat?”
    Matpat: “So going back to fnaf and the bite of 87...”

  • @DecipheringAngel
    @DecipheringAngel Před 3 lety +3380

    *“Cool, but did Dream cheat?”*
    MatPat: “So anyways, I started advertising”

    • @crystalkirlia4553
      @crystalkirlia4553 Před 3 lety +37

      It seems at around 17:04 there are a few words flashing on the screen... part of a GT ARG game maybe? Idk, I'm not smart enough to play them but if anyone else does, I hope this helps.
      What I got so far:
      Edit: PMFM LIB IFYF HEX EBUB

    • @darkflightdreamer1698
      @darkflightdreamer1698 Před 3 lety +3

      @@crystalkirlia4553 olk

    • @ElJefe-ol9ow
      @ElJefe-ol9ow Před 3 lety +3

      🤣🤣

    • @SparkyFolf
      @SparkyFolf Před 3 lety +4

      @@crystalkirlia4553 what do you mean, I see 2 guys and DATA, there are some random symbols raining down in the bakgrund though

    • @holywizard6945
      @holywizard6945 Před 3 lety +13

      Stop searching, everything say YES.
      And it's just before it's too frustrating to play a game for millennia waiting for luck.

  • @Dang.-
    @Dang.- Před rokem +2736

    Everyone: Did he cheat?
    Matpat: "The divorce rates in Maine are caused by the consumption of margarine"

  • @derkatzenmensch220
    @derkatzenmensch220 Před 2 lety +1445

    "did he cheat?"
    Mat : im just a theorist, no astrophysicist

  • @jonahweisbrod3978
    @jonahweisbrod3978 Před 3 lety +2218

    Everyone: "Did dream cheat"
    Matpat: "and this is why 6 is afraid of 7"

    • @marmalademan2409
      @marmalademan2409 Před 3 lety +13

      Huuuuh did 7 8 oh no 9

    • @wantedapple144
      @wantedapple144 Před 3 lety +20

      @@marmalademan2409 No it’s because 7 robbed a bank.

    • @Jequarius67
      @Jequarius67 Před 3 lety +3

      @@wantedapple144 bruhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

    • @Eligos669
      @Eligos669 Před 3 lety +38

      @@wantedapple144 because 7 is a registered 6 offender

    • @wantedapple144
      @wantedapple144 Před 3 lety +6

      @@Eligos669 that was better.

  • @GrahamBV
    @GrahamBV Před 3 lety +2630

    Us: "Hey MatPat, did you think Dream cheated?"
    MatPat: Competetitve Minecraft is pretty cool

    • @joshwhite2660
      @joshwhite2660 Před 3 lety +5

      yes

    • @joshwhite2660
      @joshwhite2660 Před 3 lety +6

      this is wat he said

    • @DoubtlessCar0
      @DoubtlessCar0 Před 3 lety +19

      @@joshwhite2660 I'm confused, did you say "yes Dream cheated" and that someone with authority proved that, or "Yes, MatPat did basically just say that"?

    • @diamentus3774
      @diamentus3774 Před 3 lety +5

      I don't know why but competitive minecraft gives me some TF2 vibes

    • @goroakechi6126
      @goroakechi6126 Před 3 lety +3

      @@diamentus3774
      It’s the Casual/competitive debate all over again.

  • @User24x
    @User24x Před 2 lety +2142

    Now that Dream confessed to cheating, I think it's clear why MatPat avoided making a conclusion: He knew the math said that it was very likely that Dream cheated but didn't want to conclude that since he knew Dream.

  • @rowanravindran8029
    @rowanravindran8029 Před rokem +1160

    Everyone: "Did Dream cheat?"
    Matpat: "Yesn't"

    • @yesnt872
      @yesnt872 Před rokem +8

      lol

    • @cancernooblol7031
      @cancernooblol7031 Před rokem +17

      He just doesnt want to get cancelled or go into drama,my man i am sorry if you are sad if he did not ans

    • @ravio5868
      @ravio5868 Před rokem +3

      Dream: Yes

    • @beyondwilline3634
      @beyondwilline3634 Před 9 měsíci +3

      Matpat loves dream's creme

    • @CEK14
      @CEK14 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Flipping a coin, 100 times and getting 60+

  • @janb.3600
    @janb.3600 Před 3 lety +7714

    Everyone: "So did Dream cheat or not??"
    Matpat: "The only winning move is not to answer."

    • @Guztav1337
      @Guztav1337 Před 3 lety +124

      The best video covering this, is the video "how lucky is too lucky" by Matt Parker a professional math communicator.

    • @the_codex4449
      @the_codex4449 Před 3 lety +44

      I think it's best not to give an exact answer leaving us, the viewers, to fill in the blanks.

    • @pika3207
      @pika3207 Před 3 lety +22

      Cuz dream stans

    • @calebgarage4254
      @calebgarage4254 Před 3 lety +29

      The evidence says he did but he IS Matpats friend so he probably wouldn’t say it

    • @the_codex4449
      @the_codex4449 Před 3 lety +19

      @@calebgarage4254 in my opinion it’s best to not share opinions that may lead to being used later in your life as evidence you’re a bad person so. Even more if you are one of the best characters in an animated show

  • @nathanlee7194
    @nathanlee7194 Před 3 lety +7418

    Viewers: "Did he cheat or not?"
    Matpat: "Mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell."

    • @senzasmentalissues474
      @senzasmentalissues474 Před 3 lety +56

      Thank you for this

    • @Commando_scylla
      @Commando_scylla Před 3 lety +13

      See matpat cant get any actual evidence hes a chicken

    • @nathanlee7194
      @nathanlee7194 Před 3 lety +142

      @@Commando_scylla I think he just didn’t want to insult Dream because he has a massive army of stans that would raid all of his videos.

    • @pavdgalaxy1965
      @pavdgalaxy1965 Před 3 lety +36

      @@Commando_scylla it’s a theory, if you didn’t know LOL. But if you changed a necessary drop to 50% drop rate. You would have a higher chance at submitting a ru whilst getting 0% of the drops than 100% of the drops, even though they have EQUAL chances of dropping. In the stream the SINGLE moderator (who is coincidently banned from the speedrun staff community) erased over 100 failed runs that dream used, which makes his drop rate the same as illuminas, 40%. BUT that mod cherry picked the targeted runs on 1.16 which came to a false conclusion of a very high chance (7.5 trillion). It’s also verified that the moderator DID cherry pick all of Dreams suspicious activities and removed all of his VERIFIED information and runs.

    • @erikgutierrez5265
      @erikgutierrez5265 Před 3 lety +21

      @@Commando_scylla Wouldn't say chicken since he answered the question if as the audience you still didn't interpret maybe its not him who didn't get evidence, but rather you just not understanding more importantly in the intro he said "I'm not answering the cheating but rather to provide information" I mean if you didn't get a better understanding of this then sorry bud if I missed the first part

  • @averageracistperson525
    @averageracistperson525 Před 2 lety +195

    theres a reason why he did not answer. he does not want to lie, and he does not wanna to get continusly harassed by dream stans.

    • @tobyisdagoat1270
      @tobyisdagoat1270 Před 2 lety +1

      Lie?

    • @SRI_IRS
      @SRI_IRS Před 4 měsíci +22

      @@tobyisdagoat1270those were his two options lie, and say dream was legit, or say he cheated, and get harassed

  • @HiIAmSpirit1
    @HiIAmSpirit1 Před rokem +76

    Everyone: Did Dream cheat?
    Dream: No
    Speedrunning team: Yes
    MatPat: Says everything but the answer
    Dream later: Yes, but it was an ACCIDENT
    Everyone: So... did Dream cheat?

  • @TheBloodsuger150
    @TheBloodsuger150 Před 3 lety +2337

    “Did Dream cheat at Minecraft speedrunning or not?”
    MatPat: “Minecraft speedrunning cheated Dream”

    • @theisjepsen22
      @theisjepsen22 Před 3 lety +65

      I think that is the best answer to that question, honestly.

    • @BrotherTheory
      @BrotherTheory Před 3 lety +15

      The best answer you could give to that question! You are BRILLIANT, Oliver Payne :)

    • @Nezkredk
      @Nezkredk Před 3 lety +19

      @@theisjepsen22 Correction. Best Joke* Answer.

    • @swift_sa
      @swift_sa Před 3 lety +1

      Lol🤣🤣🤣

    • @MangaSkills
      @MangaSkills Před 3 lety +2

      Yo I like your statement haha That like one of best comment here

  • @MDPOPE
    @MDPOPE Před 3 lety +4440

    "Did Dream Cheat?"
    "well, gambling sucks, just make a tourney"

    • @aeleequis
      @aeleequis Před 3 lety +49

      simply made the nether regionals, it's pretty a cool tournament of minecraft 1.16 races

    • @mcskrzypek
      @mcskrzypek Před 3 lety +80

      exactly. First dislike I have ever given to this channel.

    • @CharlyOmega
      @CharlyOmega Před 3 lety +2

      @UCsT8jU9tH7bRt7qA-VZ3NTA wtf
      Edit: he said we should just kill dream

    • @willhholland
      @willhholland Před 3 lety +33

      lmaoo
      *DID DREAM CHEAT?*
      idk but tourney speed runs sound way better...

    • @waddlesbell7457
      @waddlesbell7457 Před 3 lety +65

      I unironically agree with this. All “arguments” against him only shows how hard it is to believe and not how much he cheated. They fail to acknowledge that rounding probability to 0 is never good.
      This is what happens if you ignore the existence of the small possibilities.

  • @JustTryingToChillOut
    @JustTryingToChillOut Před 11 měsíci +37

    "So, did Dream actually cheat?"
    MatPat: "We do know that quantum physics is very important for the understanding of the universe"

  • @accuratememin
    @accuratememin Před 2 lety +85

    "i don't want to beat a dead horse"
    Dream almost a year later: check this out

  • @rookieart8189
    @rookieart8189 Před 3 lety +2854

    Everyone: did he cheat?
    Mattpat: so thats how I found out Mario was a sociopath

    • @pentasis
      @pentasis Před 3 lety +26

      @Cyber Seas This video was for MatPat to give his ACTUAL opinion on the situation. You're just saying that it's bad because it isn't what you wanted.

    • @ariyantosupratman1956
      @ariyantosupratman1956 Před 3 lety +10

      At this point people just accusing dream cheating because they hate him, no logical explanation anymore. They just use that 1 of 7.5 trillion number whatever as arguments, there is no other proof that he is use cheat in form of object. and you see here people just say he is cheat because they hate dream, let me tell you this just because some speedrunner who don't have any mathematical certificates and run a random simulation with wrong mechanics say dream is cheat doesn't mean that dream is actually cheating. It's just trend now if you hate dream you are a good, smart, and wise person.
      and you guy's are the worst rather than listening to what Matpat say from what his analysis and research have done, you guys just meme him because you think you're funny and smart because "EveRyBodY kNoW dREaM CheATinG". at least Matpat try to analyze it by him self not just bashing around and listen to what "Veteran Speedrunner" who don't have experience on real calculations and probability. Check yourself out fifth grader.

    • @XrayTheMyth23
      @XrayTheMyth23 Před 3 lety +39

      @@pentasis to be fair the title is total bait, not really the commenter's fault for expecting a more factual video when it was just an opinion video

    • @KittenStudiosYT
      @KittenStudiosYT Před 3 lety +5

      @Cyber Seas here. There’s a low chance of winning the lottery but you won several times, you have luck . Use that but in Minecraft terms

    • @savikshamirana9198
      @savikshamirana9198 Před 3 lety

      💔💔
      czcams.com/video/9bwkbSfUpo8/video.html

  • @roselandacademyshorts5571
    @roselandacademyshorts5571 Před 3 lety +6236

    Matpat was secretly the math professor dream hired

  • @zombathinlostleghackercat5233

    He found knowledge in being a professor. But MatPat found more in talking about video games.

  • @superstarwarrior2933
    @superstarwarrior2933 Před 2 lety +77

    This whole thing just goes to show how influential famous CZcamsrs can be

  • @Aaleg
    @Aaleg Před 2 lety +4968

    Jesus I’m gonna need a college mathematics degree to decide if a green man with a smiley face cheated in a block game

  • @ryanexx5250
    @ryanexx5250 Před 3 lety +1905

    It’s great how Minecraft can simultaneously be the most relaxed and intense game at the same time

    • @EpochIsEpic
      @EpochIsEpic Před 3 lety +20

      That’s mostly because Minecraft is essentially a content generation platform at this point

    • @marson_6655
      @marson_6655 Před 3 lety

      True

    • @angelaplays
      @angelaplays Před 3 lety

      Facts

    • @Tonjit41
      @Tonjit41 Před 3 lety

      Minecraft is EVERYTHING

    • @buddergolem9463
      @buddergolem9463 Před 3 lety +1

      That’s the appeal, it’s a game that you always wanna play because it can be played like any kind of game

  • @ginjutsu_art
    @ginjutsu_art Před 3 měsíci +8

    Watching this in 2024 is actually wild😭 ppl were rly arguing wether his minecraft speedruns were faked while he was out here talking to minors😭😭💀

  • @Azami_chan
    @Azami_chan Před 3 měsíci +11

    Mats old vids popping the first on my page i feel like crying

  • @GoldenKirby
    @GoldenKirby Před 3 lety +3275

    " Did he cheat? "
    MatPat: *" This is a final analysis, not a final answer. "*

  • @nejmadhilo5462
    @nejmadhilo5462 Před 3 lety +2651

    everyone: wait did dream cheat?
    matpat; “even better why is dream?”

  • @Just_Caden
    @Just_Caden Před 2 lety +30

    I think matpat just wanted an excuse to talk about some interesting math, I respect that.

  • @tuna3425
    @tuna3425 Před 2 lety +17

    0:55 is how I feel when someone starts lecturing me.

  • @Jablinnn
    @Jablinnn Před 3 lety +3508

    Everyone: Soo did he fake his speed runs?
    MatPat: Yesn’t

  • @anthonycarrillo5076
    @anthonycarrillo5076 Před 3 lety +2419

    Everyone: so did dream cheat?
    MatPat: The real cheaters are the friends we made along the way

    • @ThomasBaxter
      @ThomasBaxter Před 3 lety +46

      *Looks at spouse*: cries

    • @tumblingartist
      @tumblingartist Před 3 lety +13

      _maybe the real speedruns were the... oh wait we have no clue if it actually was real_ :/

    • @xmsm
      @xmsm Před 3 lety +3

      czcams.com/video/U8WgahYPiGw/video.html

    • @cleangreenearthforall9405
      @cleangreenearthforall9405 Před 3 lety +2

      AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @dynamic6813
      @dynamic6813 Před 3 lety +2

      Extended version czcams.com/video/XuU7prBDY94/video.html

  • @just_an_internet_explorer8038

    POV you know your friend threw the paper airplane during class and the teacher asks you if you saw them do it.

  • @MrBen-zv1ip
    @MrBen-zv1ip Před rokem +80

    If you don't want to look for the answer and spoiler alert mat doesn't come to any conclusion (shocking)
    Dream cheated and he admitted to it but didn't apologised for it. He just shifted blame

  • @termsypoo
    @termsypoo Před 3 lety +2505

    Title: Did Dream fake his speedrun?
    MatPat: lol idk

    • @purlfox
      @purlfox Před 3 lety +29

      Thank you for your comment lol my tiktok brain can't handle CZcams lengthed content anymore 🤣🤣🤣

    • @geofferywilliams4867
      @geofferywilliams4867 Před 3 lety +4

      Pretty Much

    • @PurpleLoverIgor
      @PurpleLoverIgor Před 3 lety

      11 hours ago :|

    • @BrotherTheory
      @BrotherTheory Před 3 lety

      Good theory lol! You are THE BEST, ReadTheTerms :)

    • @clownfromclowntown
      @clownfromclowntown Před 3 lety +26

      @@purlfox so you just openly admitted to having a terrible attention span...god I hate my generation

  • @Asylia5911
    @Asylia5911 Před 3 lety +1732

    Watchers: So... did he cheat or not?
    MatPat: Y’Know, Piglin Bartering ruins speedrunning and I think that sucks

    • @FabricOfReality73
      @FabricOfReality73 Před 3 lety +116

      Though he dodged the point he is correct on that one, it does suck.

    • @francescocostanzo8225
      @francescocostanzo8225 Před 3 lety +41

      @@FabricOfReality73 no one forced dream to speedrun minecraft or that version of minecraft

    • @awheckitsgoldie
      @awheckitsgoldie Před 3 lety +3

      Missed the point

    • @LordDragox412
      @LordDragox412 Před 3 lety +17

      @@FabricOfReality73 Nobody forces anyone to speedrun MC 1.16. Some speedrunners enjoy RNG, some hate it. Those who love it play games that contain it, those who hate it play games that don't have it or where you are capable of manipulating it to a reasonable enough degree. Piglin bartering may ruin speedrunning, but so did bugfixes in other games, which is why speedrunners play on earlier versions of those games. I really don't get why people make so much drama about stuff like that...

    • @TheKrossRoads
      @TheKrossRoads Před 3 lety +27

      Disappointing, but what else could he do? If he takes a side he gets jumped by the other side, and both sides are ravenous now. I suppose he could have just not done the video at all, but Matpat actually makes a great point here: Maybe 1.16 speedruns as a whole need to be thrown out.
      Don't get me (or Matpat) wrong, RNG can be really fun, and test the skill and adaptation abilities of the speedrunner. However, not all RNG does that; and a good example of the bad RNG is piglin bartering. No amount of skill or adaptation is going to help you if you're just not lucky. Since the bad RNG is so instrumental in the speedrun, that calls the validity of those speedruns into question. After all, speedruns are supposed to be a display of skill and mastery, not someone getting really lucky.
      So things like throwing out all the runs and putting in a "no piglin bartering" rule would be a more accurate reflection of mastery.

  • @Evanino527
    @Evanino527 Před měsícem +5

    Everyone: did dream cheat?
    Matpat: explaining the entire lore of the universe

  • @joellakairupan
    @joellakairupan Před rokem +14

    Matpat, I got 1 year of math and science ahead of my class all because of watching your videos. Thank you for teaching me things that my teachers took weeks to do.❤

  • @PinkPixelProductions
    @PinkPixelProductions Před 3 lety +3723

    “So did dream cheat?”
    MatPat: AND NOW A WORD FROM OUR SPONSOR!

    • @darkvoid4512
      @darkvoid4512 Před 3 lety +6

      lol

    • @meowdasia
      @meowdasia Před 2 lety +16

      RAID:SHADOW LEGENDS!!!!

    • @kulesama3185
      @kulesama3185 Před 2 lety +1

      @@meowdasia åa

    • @cyberseai9305
      @cyberseai9305 Před 2 lety +18

      Now we have an answer "YES"

    • @akira8393
      @akira8393 Před 2 lety +4

      I mean ya can't forget the sponsors man.. ya need that clout and sponsors for the money rolling in.. Flexing ON the FAns!

  • @therealindoraptor7944
    @therealindoraptor7944 Před 3 lety +2187

    “Did dream cheat?”
    “Why is speedrun? Where is cheat?
    That’s how I figured out Mario was a sociopath”

    • @Anonimos1999
      @Anonimos1999 Před 3 lety +32

      if you want to know look at karl jobst video, he tells the truth about it (which is yes, he actually did cheat, and i’m saying this a dream’s fan)

    • @connerdehn5908
      @connerdehn5908 Před 3 lety +5

      @@Anonimos1999 this kid is a bot

    • @jansenncuber8009
      @jansenncuber8009 Před 3 lety +12

      @@Anonimos1999 Same. I wanted to think that Dream didn't cheat, and I've been a fan of his content for a long time, but he for sure cheated.

    • @Anonimos1999
      @Anonimos1999 Před 3 lety +9

      @@jansenncuber8009 exactly, it was sooo disappointing to find out but that’s the truth and everyone should know

    • @omppuplayz
      @omppuplayz Před 3 lety +5

      Why are we still talking about this? I would see the point of talking about this anymore if it was like a #1 or #2 record like...
      I dont get the point please inform me

  • @notforvideoschannel
    @notforvideoschannel Před 7 měsíci +5

    Dream: Admits he was cheating "a bit"
    Dream fans: "No! He didn't cheat!"

  • @xlightningplayz9270
    @xlightningplayz9270 Před rokem +7

    Plot Twist: MatPat was secretly the math professor Dream hired to cover his tracks… lol

  • @TyroneBrown_0
    @TyroneBrown_0 Před 3 lety +2299

    "Did dream fake his speedrun?"
    Mat: idfk u tell me

    • @weirdofromhalo
      @weirdofromhalo Před 3 lety +20

      Watch Karl Jobst

    • @azrael_morningstar
      @azrael_morningstar Před 3 lety +46

      I think he said there is not enough proof to say he 100% cheated .

    • @dahgnzg5508
      @dahgnzg5508 Před 3 lety +7

      @@azrael_morningstar karl jobst said he cheated

    • @azrael_morningstar
      @azrael_morningstar Před 3 lety +2

      @@dahgnzg5508 ik what he said but still not 100%

    • @adriking5383
      @adriking5383 Před 3 lety +20

      YES HE CHEATED !! This Video Proofs it: czcams.com/video/8Ko3TdPy0TU/video.html (The Video concludes that even if every Person on Earth played a minecraft Speedrun every second for 100 Years Then We would still Not achieve this amount of luck that Dream had in his speedrun BY FAR.) In fact If 10 Billion People on Earth did one minecraft speedrun every second then we would need to play Minecraft for 100000 Years just to get as Lucky as Dream got.

  • @lucii1056
    @lucii1056 Před 3 lety +1198

    "Did Dream cheat or not?"
    Also MatPat: "margarine and divorce"

  • @davidjones8047
    @davidjones8047 Před 2 lety +11

    Fans: So did Dream cheat or no?
    Matpat: The fitness gram pacer test is an aerobic...

  • @ace_5813
    @ace_5813 Před rokem +5

    You made a 23 minute video trying to figure out if your so called “son” cheated in Minecraft. This is taking are you winning son memes to a whole new level-

  • @adelarios1458
    @adelarios1458 Před 3 lety +1899

    Everyone: “Did Dream cheat?”
    MatPat: AND thats why Kanye Wests REAL name is actually Kanye EAST

    • @sekoseko9728
      @sekoseko9728 Před 3 lety +3

      czcams.com/video/FSSFgWlDbJU/video.html....

    • @randomanimations8488
      @randomanimations8488 Před 3 lety +2

      A joke?
      I laugh

    • @gurentgc3546
      @gurentgc3546 Před 3 lety +19

      Exactly, what with that conclusion? He didn’t answer his own questions...

    • @dabendan79
      @dabendan79 Před 3 lety +15

      you finnally got it on spot
      Video title: you are Speedrunning Minecraft is the wrong way
      MatPat conclusion: Thats why Bart Simpson created fortnite
      im sick and tired on this matpat cancer

    • @desmondruhling
      @desmondruhling Před 3 lety +6

      @@sekoseko9728 nobody likes you

  • @saltymilk8133
    @saltymilk8133 Před 3 lety +1408

    “Did dream cheat?”
    Matpat: well gravity exists and here’s my life story

    • @snek8907
      @snek8907 Před 3 lety +1

      @Virtual Agent no is this a Rickroll?

    • @oz27spzz
      @oz27spzz Před 3 lety +13

      @@snek8907 I'll take the fall for everyone if it is.. wish me luck

    • @epicgamer-ny4fj
      @epicgamer-ny4fj Před 3 lety +1

      @@oz27spzz was it,

    • @oz27spzz
      @oz27spzz Před 3 lety +18

      @@epicgamer-ny4fj not even close.. it was just some random link.. everyone in the comments were randomly linked to that video

    • @JstormZx
      @JstormZx Před 3 lety

      @@oz27spzz literally *e v e r y o n e* and it's bloody annoying.

  • @spencerbrothers4594
    @spencerbrothers4594 Před 2 lety +6

    I’ve never heard someone pronounce it ‘latex’ so confidently. Love it

  • @unnamedracer9757
    @unnamedracer9757 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I believe we need to dub MatPat in the intro MathPat

  • @c00mwall
    @c00mwall Před 3 lety +1518

    “ok but did he cheat?”
    “anyways, the five nights at freddy’s timeline-“

    • @piratefox3396
      @piratefox3396 Před 3 lety +19

      IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THE FNAF TIMELINE FOR A LONG TIME

    • @monke4476
      @monke4476 Před 3 lety +1

      @@piratefox3396 what’s fnaf?

    • @I.disagree
      @I.disagree Před 3 lety +14

      @@monke4476 stop

    • @lakumowo
      @lakumowo Před 3 lety +4

      He said it’s a 2 parter

    • @JstormZx
      @JstormZx Před 3 lety +1

      @@monke4476 five nights at freddy's.
      A horror game? Y'know with the animatronics? No? Never heard of it?

  • @samw4866
    @samw4866 Před 3 lety +1977

    “Something I’d like to call sight reading”
    *smiles in band kid*

    • @sallyworm2358
      @sallyworm2358 Před 3 lety +16

      What? He liked your comment?

    • @gibbabibba
      @gibbabibba Před 3 lety +5

      Bruh same

    • @maggiefulop
      @maggiefulop Před 3 lety +25

      *smiles in cultured Linglingwannabe orchestra kid*

    • @ebuslamentee5963
      @ebuslamentee5963 Před 3 lety +22

      @@sallyworm2358 no he just slapped a big virtual sticker next to it, in the same place where the heart usually goes

    • @sallyworm2358
      @sallyworm2358 Před 3 lety +4

      @@ebuslamentee5963 thanks for clearing that up 👍

  • @biblicallybased
    @biblicallybased Před rokem +1

    I love how this was a great way to make use of A Level Statistics early. Also, got the same stats for your first question, @The Game Theorists: 17.19% and 2.84%

  • @darkforge15
    @darkforge15 Před rokem +2

    "Divorce and margarine are completely unrelated..."
    Not a sentence I expected to hear today.

  • @fatnuts5085
    @fatnuts5085 Před 3 lety +1692

    “Did Dream cheat?”
    “To determine that we must go back to the first ever speedrun and examine it very closely”

    • @lowreslireas
      @lowreslireas Před 3 lety +23

      read that with an old man History Channel narrator voice

    • @stefanandrejevic2570
      @stefanandrejevic2570 Před 3 lety +12

      We first must include the 420 sponsors that will take up 90% of the video and then put a bunch of ads

    • @joycefurphy2312
      @joycefurphy2312 Před 3 lety

      819 likes and only 2 comments excluding mine :/

    • @BrotherTheory
      @BrotherTheory Před 3 lety

      Nice comment! You are BRILLIANT, 1 3 :)

    • @JK_5076
      @JK_5076 Před 3 lety

      How did you get so many likes? I only get about 1 on the day a vid is posted

  • @Daisy-uw5oz
    @Daisy-uw5oz Před 3 lety +4860

    “Did he cheat?”
    Mat: WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY

  • @R0Kdarock
    @R0Kdarock Před rokem +2

    actually playing after nether update makes it harder to speedrun because it added bastions so the chances are low to find a fotress compered to previous seedruns

  • @Glorman69
    @Glorman69 Před 2 lety +27

    Just wondering why Dream "accidentally" had sophisticated speedrun cheats

  • @Queen_Club
    @Queen_Club Před 3 lety +22415

    For those who want the answer: He doesn’t give a answer

    • @wrldbestistaken
      @wrldbestistaken Před 3 lety +489

      Ctrl-c
      Ctrl-v

    • @elbenezermirabuena7755
      @elbenezermirabuena7755 Před 3 lety +125

      Copied

    • @mikedanielespeja6128
      @mikedanielespeja6128 Před 3 lety +779

      What's the problem if this message is copied? It's too vague and common of a thing to say in a video like this for it to matter whether or not it's copied. Queen's club is just warning others.

    • @YouGot2BeKitten
      @YouGot2BeKitten Před 3 lety +504

      Anyone who thought MatPat of all people would even have any clue what he was talking about when it came to this topic anyway is clueless to begin with. All the experts on the subject say Dream cheated. So Dream cheated. That’s really all it comes down to.

    • @simplyfitness892
      @simplyfitness892 Před 3 lety +253

      @@YouGot2BeKitten no matts great at maths and is fully capable he just proved that, he just showed dream cheated without stating that he cheated idk why probs to avoid the drama side a bit? Not sure but that don’t mean he’s clueless.

  • @konradsielilo349
    @konradsielilo349 Před 3 lety +2226

    “Well did he cheat”
    Mat Pat
    “I like mustard on my vegan pizza”

    • @waddlesbell7457
      @waddlesbell7457 Před 3 lety +80

      I guess it makes sense for him not to give an answer if you can’t prove either side.

    • @Korotan_
      @Korotan_ Před 3 lety +37

      @@waddlesbell7457 yep not making either side mad is the best possible thing to do

    • @jesusvilla5907
      @jesusvilla5907 Před 3 lety +10

      @@Korotan_ just pander to the lowest common denominator.

    • @DakotaTheRota
      @DakotaTheRota Před 3 lety +27

      ​@@waddlesbell7457 People ran simulations to see if they could get the same luck. They couldn't get it. So there for he cheated.

    • @francescocostanzo8225
      @francescocostanzo8225 Před 3 lety +4

      This comment right here is the reason I unsubscribed. Mat Pat really disappointed me today.

  • @colasergeant
    @colasergeant Před rokem

    mat just making one of the greatest minecraft speedrun tournament ideas i have ever heard

  • @Kayla-Aphrodite-cabin
    @Kayla-Aphrodite-cabin Před 2 měsíci +1

    “That thing is always a war zone” - MatPat on Dsmp stuff

  • @Scorchinghell
    @Scorchinghell Před rokem +1

    Here’s a Minecraft theory
    If blue Ice and lave come into contact with each other to create basalt wouldn’t that mean the nether once had vegetation LONG before the player firsts spawns in. And was lost due to immense heat

  • @jillmorris3253
    @jillmorris3253 Před rokem

    Wait, I’m in college and have a lot of statistics background. What Mat describes as p-hacking is actually called post-hoc analysis: the practice of coming up with a hypothesis after getting the data. P-hacking is when you run data and tweak the statistics you’re running until the numbers come out the way you want them….

  • @Sethica
    @Sethica Před 3 lety +44602

    Everyone’s talking about Matpat’s conclusion but I’m here thinking about how Matpat pronounces versions like “one point one six”

    • @OreganoParsley
      @OreganoParsley Před 3 lety +2234

      @BECOMING BTS stfu

    • @HxCMusicMaster
      @HxCMusicMaster Před 3 lety +717

      That's fairly common, isn't it?

    • @YellyOld
      @YellyOld Před 3 lety +770

      @Harry Styles go away, bot.

    • @corvidashgame5613
      @corvidashgame5613 Před 3 lety +254

      Him pronouncing LaTeX like "lay-teks" instead of "lay-tek" is what got to me lol

    • @randomreviews787
      @randomreviews787 Před 3 lety +246

      Well you can’t have one point sixteen it’s just not a number it would have been 2.6 by now

  • @kaspikey9553
    @kaspikey9553 Před 3 lety +2238

    Everyone: "So did Dream Cheat?"
    Matpat: SO ANYWAYS LET'S TALK ABOUT MONKEYS ON A TYPEWRITER GOING BRRRRRRRRRR"

    • @alias_crouton2316
      @alias_crouton2316 Před 3 lety +5

      @Isaiah Byrd I was just about to say that.

    • @fkhan2006
      @fkhan2006 Před 3 lety +7

      lol this comment is so dumb. matpat can't just make a 3 second video saying "yes" or "no" to the question in the title. He's here to educate us and present the evidence in an entertaining way. don't make dumb comments just cuz you're a butthurt dream stan (don't see any other reason as to why you're seem so angry)

    • @kaspikey9553
      @kaspikey9553 Před 3 lety +3

      @@fkhan2006 Yikes buddy didn't realize you had no idea what a joke was

    • @fkhan2006
      @fkhan2006 Před 3 lety +3

      @@kaspikey9553 jokes are used all the time to share an opinion. tell me, do you think that MatPat clickbaited us with that title? tell me, are you angry about the title? because that's what i'm getting from your joke. also jokes are supposed to make you laugh. didn't even smile

    • @kaspikey9553
      @kaspikey9553 Před 3 lety +6

      @@fkhan2006 r/iamverysmart

  • @Psilomuscimol
    @Psilomuscimol Před 5 měsíci +2

    You probably wont see this, as this video is 2 years old. But theres a plant that can go without water for years and become green again and grow when you finally water it. Its called a forever fern or a resurrection plant or something.

  • @HKMisawesome
    @HKMisawesome Před rokem +4

    These videos are the only thing that teach me something and make me enjoy it in the process.

  • @BarelySociable
    @BarelySociable Před 3 lety +23568

    When you want to cash in on the controversy but don't want to take a side

    • @Slackow
      @Slackow Před 3 lety +559

      Yeah and also what was pretty funny was the exact idea for a tournament he pitched at the end was already happening. They use special datapacks that make all their piglin trades to the same to eliminate rng and then they run the same worlds.

    • @dump1ing.2005.
      @dump1ing.2005. Před 3 lety +85

      The true winner

    • @Michael-Hammerschmidt
      @Michael-Hammerschmidt Před 3 lety +672

      Honestly. Not just disappointing but downright disingenuous for someone who talked ad nauseum about his passion for statistics to not just come to a conclusion but almost entirely brush over the mathematical meat of the subject at all.

    • @aryan7767
      @aryan7767 Před 3 lety +287

      @@Michael-Hammerschmidt yeah I used to like these guys but now they're so disingenuous and the content is downright bad. Its not entertaining and informative like it used to be, but just whatever is the most popular trend to get the most views

    • @mediy0
      @mediy0 Před 3 lety +10

      Bruh

  • @pgainor6465
    @pgainor6465 Před 3 lety +1587

    Speedrun Team: says dream cheated
    Dream: says he didn't cheat
    MatPat: *says that the debate is impossible to determine while also making everyone involved in minecraft speedrunning question their life choices*
    Edit: The people arguing in the replies need to get laid.

    • @crackerjack6013
      @crackerjack6013 Před 3 lety +46

      True king

    • @Lonewolf-zr4ym
      @Lonewolf-zr4ym Před 3 lety +52

      I didn't even know there was minecraft speedruns. I just thought minecraft was a game where the boys hop on and talk about life problems

    • @TruthShaIIWin
      @TruthShaIIWin Před 3 lety +5

      *M A T H*

    • @EdricCoconut
      @EdricCoconut Před 3 lety +3

      Basically

    • @TimeattackGD
      @TimeattackGD Před 3 lety +29

      @@glass4786 no they arent. also im pretty sure matpat didnt want to choose a side because hes afraid of getting backlash which kinda sucks

  • @enderform374
    @enderform374 Před rokem +1

    this aged well! also, try to re animate this vid with dreams actual face. this may not turn out so well.

  • @neahaapala7145
    @neahaapala7145 Před rokem

    "this is coming way late" It's a year later and the first I've heard of it so still watching this

  • @bucca2
    @bucca2 Před 3 lety +1390

    For anyone who wants to know the verdict: Matt doesn’t actually say whether or not he thinks Dream cheated or not. He just explains some of the statistics and math behind it.

    • @chubbybunny6975
      @chubbybunny6975 Před 3 lety +154

      Meanwhile, mathematicians proved that he DID actually cheat

    • @dootdootclaire
      @dootdootclaire Před 3 lety +14

      @@chubbybunny6975 wait what? I haven’t watched the video yet but what about the professor that said he didn’t?

    • @TruthShaIIWin
      @TruthShaIIWin Před 3 lety +3

      *M A T H*

    • @ashleyberkowitz8772
      @ashleyberkowitz8772 Před 3 lety +65

      @@dootdootclaire someone effectively debunked that but I’m not sure if they were right

    • @toad7395
      @toad7395 Před 3 lety +50

      theres no real way to be a hundred percent sure about it, although the odds are not in his favor

  • @curtis9894
    @curtis9894 Před 3 lety +590

    MatPat should be a politician the way he dodged the question at hand in this videos

    • @faustianite
      @faustianite Před 3 lety +25

      @@UwU-235 and yet he can't give a definite answer to the question the video is based around.

    • @troubleddreamer553
      @troubleddreamer553 Před 3 lety +4

      @@faustianite keep crying lol

    • @faustianite
      @faustianite Před 3 lety +29

      @@troubleddreamer553 you had to really put some brain power into that comment huh? You even edited it.

    • @parantezadam6293
      @parantezadam6293 Před 3 lety +2

      @@faustianite imagine making fun of someone for EDITING?

    • @faustianite
      @faustianite Před 3 lety +23

      @@parantezadam6293 it's a three word phrase.

  • @MyGamester
    @MyGamester Před 3 měsíci +2

    Spoiler:Dream came out later and admitted he tampered with game files to put the odds in his favour. SHOCKER.

  • @P3nguln_
    @P3nguln_ Před 7 měsíci

    love how there is now a way to vs somone in minecraft speedrunning these days

  • @katherinasteiner1463
    @katherinasteiner1463 Před 2 lety +2934

    everyone: "did he cheat??"
    matpat: "well he ran at a fast speed for sure"

    • @Truckingmama1
      @Truckingmama1 Před rokem +3

      so true ha hahaha 😆

    • @shrek7172
      @shrek7172 Před rokem +1

      😆

    • @AzguardMike
      @AzguardMike Před rokem +9

      Everyone "did he cheat?"
      Mat "i dunno, lemme see what everyone else thinks first then answer with their replies"

  • @lildipper1047
    @lildipper1047 Před 3 lety +1933

    Us: “Hey matpat, did dream cheat?”
    Matpat: “I dunno but here’s statistics and an advertisement!”

    • @jonajona6976
      @jonajona6976 Před 3 lety +4

      czcams.com/video/FSSFgWlDbJU/video.html..

    • @MantaKizaemonFTW
      @MantaKizaemonFTW Před 3 lety +32

      @@jonajona6976 that’s kinda worse than a rickroll

    • @NoName-st2jl
      @NoName-st2jl Před 3 lety

      Hi

    • @itsFnD
      @itsFnD Před 3 lety +2

      Matpat : RNG, case closed

    • @Yarlor840
      @Yarlor840 Před 3 lety +3

      Isn’t that what that’s supposed to happen tho?

  • @NoodleBerry
    @NoodleBerry Před 6 měsíci

    Competitive Minecraft tournaments do sound cool

  • @starbeam7679
    @starbeam7679 Před 11 měsíci

    Now, with the new way rng is handled by world seed, it will be much easier to verify this kind of stuff. No more controversy because the team can just load up the seed to see if it's true

  • @gg-zi9vk
    @gg-zi9vk Před 3 lety +943

    "So did he cheat on his speedrun?"
    "Well, learning is fun."

    • @taralamlam1122
      @taralamlam1122 Před 3 lety +1

      czcams.com/video/FSSFgWlDbJU/video.html..

    • @sherripotasky2440
      @sherripotasky2440 Před 3 lety +9

      tara lamlam11 stop advertising stuff can you just delete your comment and be a good person for once

    • @tuxedosteve9556
      @tuxedosteve9556 Před 3 lety +6

      @Harry Styles your comment made me cry

    • @sherripotasky2440
      @sherripotasky2440 Před 3 lety +1

      Coltyn Stone-Lamontagne Thank you:)

    • @sherripotasky2440
      @sherripotasky2440 Před 3 lety +2

      Harry Styles nobody cares delete your comment for Muffins sake

  • @notroy9376
    @notroy9376 Před 3 lety +681

    Everyone: so... did he cheat?
    Matpat: I'm not very good at gardening

    • @heshohesho1860
      @heshohesho1860 Před 3 lety +4

      czcams.com/video/FSSFgWlDbJU/video.html.

    • @liseegeskov8769
      @liseegeskov8769 Před 3 lety +15

      @@heshohesho1860 pls be a Rick Roll pls be a Rick roll pls be a Rick roll pls Im tired of these self promoting bots

    • @Heavy-W-Guy
      @Heavy-W-Guy Před 3 lety +1

      @@liseegeskov8769 its really how it be out here no cap

    • @Slender_Man_186
      @Slender_Man_186 Před 3 lety +7

      @@liseegeskov8769 it’s not, it’s a link to a video by Karl Jobst, a guy known for exposing fake speed runs.

    • @fetusgriffin9897
      @fetusgriffin9897 Před 3 lety +1

      @@heshohesho1860 shut

  • @BruceBatman2much
    @BruceBatman2much Před 2 měsíci +2

    It hurts now to watch as you explain your reasoning for why you started this channel only to see that your leaving now

  • @michaelburris8014
    @michaelburris8014 Před rokem +4

    10 times for seven times is way more likely than 100 times for 60 times.

  • @SuperMekki666
    @SuperMekki666 Před 3 lety +1918

    Everyone: Did Dream cheat?
    Mat: is speedrunning even worth it?

    • @faustianite
      @faustianite Před 3 lety +83

      Doesn't sway one side in order to avoid hate but also refuses you answer the simple question of whether Dream cheated or not. Clickbait.

    • @mementomori5580
      @mementomori5580 Před 3 lety +15

      More like "Is speedrunning a game where the best time depends mostly on RNG even worth it?"

    • @mementomori5580
      @mementomori5580 Před 3 lety +38

      @@faustianite Because the answer to the question is not simple. The only honest answer is "Only Dream truly knows", because just because an event is unlikely, even very unlikely, it doesn't mean that it can't happen.

    • @faustianite
      @faustianite Před 3 lety +26

      @@mementomori5580 okay, keep denying the truth then.

    • @mementomori5580
      @mementomori5580 Před 3 lety +44

      @@faustianite I am simply stating a fact. Nobody other then Dream can actually say wether or not he Cheated. All the Speedrunning Team did was decide that the luck displayed in Dreams Speedruns are over the threshold they find "acceptable", which is why they are labeling that he cheated. But they themselves don't actually know, and we will never know because Dream will, most likely, never say that he cheated and so we're at a stalemate and you either "play the game" and pick a side to believe or you just put the whole thing away and acknowledge that nobody can actually tell and they the status quo is simply "The Team decided he cheated" and that's it.

  • @bl1ank956
    @bl1ank956 Před 3 lety +1295

    Everyone: "did dream cheat?"
    Matpat : "first who is dream"

    • @damondgreen2239
      @damondgreen2239 Před 3 lety +52

      Matpat: “but a even better question is why is Dream?”

    • @ItsMustachio
      @ItsMustachio Před 3 lety +36

      Matpat: “but first when is dream?”

    • @zacharywiggins9660
      @zacharywiggins9660 Před 3 lety +9

      first, did dream dream the short dream of the game while dreaming in the long dream of life?

    • @callmeobsequious
      @callmeobsequious Před 3 lety +2

      This sounds more like Vsauce to me but I still enjoy this comment

    • @gregdabrat
      @gregdabrat Před 3 lety +5

      Vsauce music plays

  • @liamtheexisting9450
    @liamtheexisting9450 Před rokem

    Me: Oh cool an interesting looking old video
    Matpat: Casually explains all of mathmatics

  • @golg_rander6770
    @golg_rander6770 Před 2 lety +10

    8:28
    They both are most likely because if you flip a coin on heads it has a higher chance of landing on heads then tails.

    • @jonathanyesbest4616
      @jonathanyesbest4616 Před rokem +1

      I mean uhh that doesn’t make sense tho..? 7 out of 10 is just MUCH more likely than 60 out of 100 :|

    • @gradyjones7017
      @gradyjones7017 Před 3 měsíci

      No, there isn’t

  • @xenodrax9320
    @xenodrax9320 Před 2 lety +3776

    Me: Oh, cool, a video breaking down Dream’s speedrun, I was wondering about that
    MatPat: ‘So basically, here’s how the universe works in a mathematical sense’

    • @astrangeorange4225
      @astrangeorange4225 Před 2 lety +43

      Lol yeah, he did end up admitting to cheating tho

    • @macc7858
      @macc7858 Před 2 lety +11

      @@astrangeorange4225 *accidentally but I don’t believe him

    • @hikari1690
      @hikari1690 Před 2 lety +10

      From this theory and analysis I propose a new theory. Minecraft is the universe.
      But hey, it's just a theory

    • @az1202
      @az1202 Před 2 lety +3

      @@macc7858 have you watched Karl’s video on it? If not watch it, it’s pretty interesting

    • @macc7858
      @macc7858 Před 2 lety +3

      @@az1202 nah who’s karl

  • @sebastianwillows
    @sebastianwillows Před 3 lety +392

    So... did he cheat?
    Matpat: "Divorce and Margarine are unrelated"

    • @zomazoma3609
      @zomazoma3609 Před 3 lety +1

      czcams.com/video/FSSFgWlDbJU/video.html........

    • @user-gp6zr8bx2m
      @user-gp6zr8bx2m Před 3 lety +1

      Oh thank god there isn’t an essay of why matpat “sucks” finally a breather

  • @galestormreal
    @galestormreal Před 3 měsíci

    @The Game Theorists u predicted the new speedrun mode where 2 players are dropped in same world great job

  • @theatlasarcade2012
    @theatlasarcade2012 Před rokem +5

    He had me until the part where he didn't answer the question

  • @a.a.animatoranimatinganani7555

    "War is based on piglin trades"
    -Sun Tzu's Art of Speedruns

  • @liesanddeceit8135
    @liesanddeceit8135 Před 3 lety +2535

    “Did dream cheat?”
    “There is a lot of math in Minecraft.”

    • @sethfortune230
      @sethfortune230 Před 3 lety +61

      He did cheat, no need to question this sellout

    • @thekekwguy5722
      @thekekwguy5722 Před 3 lety +17

      @David Alexander haha shops going to fire man samaa

    • @sethfortune230
      @sethfortune230 Před 3 lety +18

      @David Alexander in the words of whiny voiced annoying politician that i hate "facts don't care about your"

    • @aymanfalna7150
      @aymanfalna7150 Před 3 lety +7

      @@sethfortune230 You didn't finish Ben Shapiro's sentence.

    • @shivamdas1801
      @shivamdas1801 Před 3 lety +7

      @@sethfortune230 ben "my wife is a doctor" Shapiro

  • @Aegon1
    @Aegon1 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Imagine getting a PhD in physics and using your intelligence for Minecraft probabilities
    What an honor

  • @120id9
    @120id9 Před rokem +3

    Ok, but hear me out. Any chance the correlation between margarine consumption and divorce rate is actually because both are tied to household income?

  • @ThirtyVirus
    @ThirtyVirus Před 3 lety +8967

    "just watch this is going to be on the trending tab"
    *#1 on trending for gaming*

  • @scarcat2469
    @scarcat2469 Před 3 lety +1410

    Title: Did Dream fake his run?
    MatPat: So why are we speed running Minecraff again?

  • @dicksoutfordjmusicman9335

    i know this is layered in a lot of drama and controversy but some of the comments are genuinely funny like-

  • @maearaci
    @maearaci Před rokem

    Pat: I'm glad that maybe one of you got that reference.
    Me: 👀👀👀👀👀

  • @NyssaStorm
    @NyssaStorm Před 3 lety +845

    Everyone: So, did Dream cheat?
    MatPat: Anyways, about that bean burrito I had for dinner...

    • @jerrysmith3476
      @jerrysmith3476 Před 3 lety +2

      he did

    • @ChefAwesome2010
      @ChefAwesome2010 Před 3 lety

      So what about a bean 🌯

    • @snomvish
      @snomvish Před 3 lety +4

      he learned how to eat it with skillshare

    • @skiddy3715
      @skiddy3715 Před 3 lety

      Yo burrito speedruns are dope af

    • @jay-lz8zn
      @jay-lz8zn Před 3 lety +2

      The thing is that matpat is friends with dream and prob didn’t want to admit he cheated because friendship reasons.

  • @live_destin-3408
    @live_destin-3408 Před 21 dnem +3

    Wait that was THREE years ago???!!!*