Keeping Up with Walter Röhrl / GR Yaris vs Classic Porsche 911.
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Disclaimer: the actions performed in this video are executed by professionals or individuals that consider themselves professional on a closed circuit within the local regulations.
00:00 Intro
02:00 My first Drive
06:44 Walter Röhrl joins
09:40 Outro - Auta a dopravní prostředky
The 911 is just dancing around with Walter behind the wheel. Yaris looking pretty lit too especially with the Rothmans livery.
Röhrl was a demigod behind the wheel. He couldn't just do Rally, he was also great on the track despite hating that kind of racing (he said verbatim that you have to be a swine to be a good racer). Most of the F-1 Legends of his era agreed he would've been a World Champion in F-1 too.
He did amazing in the 24h when everyone else had to go slow because of excessive fog, while he still went full speed with barely slower lap times, because of his insane photographic memory. In IMSA him and Stuck lapped the whole field in one race, and easily dominated in others (but they let their American teammate "win" the season, because Audi wanted America sales). American teams cried so hard, that Audi kept having to add extra weight and finally was banned.
When they brought him to DTM to help Stuck win the title, in his very first race (Norisring, I think) he told Stuck "I'll be way ahead of all of you, but don't worry, I'll make sure you win". Stuck asked him if he was crazy, and said "There is no way ahead in DTM".
Ultimately Röhrl was so far ahead (despite 2-3 different drivers trying their hardest to spin him and even take him out, early on) that they didn't even show him on TV, when the race was shown. Both the Audi team and Stuck were swearing on the radio. Walter Röhrl told them to shut up. "You will win, but how and when you win is up to me and me only".
On the last lap he only went in 1st gear, allowing Stuck (another legend of DTM, and other forms of racing) to win by like a car lenght.
Seeing rally drivers drive circuits is amazing they literally just go full attack no matter what, theres a video of tommi driving a sti around the nurburgring and its so smooth and agressive
@@sheddy22 One time Röhrl was driving on the Nürburg Ring in a Ferrari. The same model was ahead of him, but wouldn't let him pass. Röhrl was swearing, angry and saying shit like "Who is that slow bastard, that won't let me by". He finally passed him, and the other guy kept trying to stay with him but ultimately couldn't.
Turns out the other driver was Michael Schumacher (7 time F-1 World Champion, 91 Victory, 68 Pole-Positions und 155 Podium finishes), who was also wondering who was riding his ass that hard, and finally pulled away from him...
Small corection it's not that Haywood won because audi wanted american sales, it's why they started racing there in the first place.
In the frist racing series Audi started (trans am) Stuck and Röhrl basically shared a cockpit while (at least in the first racing series they went and dominated: trans am) Stuck had other races around the world to do and so whenever he had no time Röhl would race, while Hurley Haywood did the whole season in the other car. Haywood was by no means a slow driver (former 24 hours of le mans winner ect.), but it's that he intentionally did the whole season while the others didn't, that he won.
The first race is even here on YT where they show interviews of the drivers along the race, and when they ask Haywood about the car he says "the awd is so great, i don't need to take the normal line, i can go everywhere and still be fast." (They had no chance on the straights, but they won everything on brakes, corner speed and corner exit.
The trans am race, where Röhl lapped the whole field except the second is also here on YT. Watched it recently and the funniest thing is that it was a pretty tight course and they had a speed trap on one corner. All the Corvettes and stuff went around that corner and the commentator got excited when they clocked in around 68, 69 mph. And when they eventually showed the leader (Röhl) in that corner, he was doing 89mph through the corner. After a very short moment of silence the commentator showed his amazement about the sheer corner speed that guy was doing. Some are blessed with extraordinary talent. (and to me it seems that most of these people did ride the monsters of Group B. Blomquist, Mouton, Mikula, Vatannen, Alen, Toivonnen, Salonnen...)
There is a fun video by Mr, Ficara about the whole audi and trans am, Haywood, Stuck, Röhlr thing.
@@nirfz All of that to say that I was right anyway. That's why they had Stuck and Röhrl share, so Haywood could win.
I didn't say he was a bad driver, but there's no way he would've beaten either Stuck or Röhrl (esp. not Röhrl) and won the championship over the whole season.
Audi hired him also instead of bringing on another German driver so they'd have an American face...
@@youtubemodsaresnowflakelef7692 No, that's the point, the intention wasn't to lower the number of races for the germans so the american wins. They looked for racers, and while Stuck was busy in other races but agreed to do some for them, Röhrl by that time for sure didn't want to race a whole season. (i mean after his second WRC title his wife said "now it's enough" and he refused to do whole seasons there too.)
They picked Haywood because he knew the tracks and was fast and available for the whole season.
Heck they even were the only ones to take 3 cars from the production line and modify them while their competition had "silouette" cars with tube frames underneath. Audi acted in a short time with what and whom they could get.
I am a Röhl fan for sure, and i do think HJ Stuck was an exceptionally good all round racer too, but you make it look like Haywood wasn't. And that's not right. He was a very constant, reliable and fast racer.
(You don't have teams like Porsche giving you a cockpit if you aren't, and he did race for Porsche too in his carreer)
Walter Rorhl is a true genius. He looked like he was going slowly. But his speed was deceptively fast. Thanks so much for this video.
That's the mark of a god-tier driver. It means he's able to manage the car's dynamic behaviour so well that there's no drama, just speed and absolute control all of the time.
Misha and Walter should do more stuff together. Especially at the Nürburgring it would be super cool! Great Video!
If Michael Schumacher couldn't keep up on the Nordschleife with Walter Röhrl in an EQUAL car, do you think Misha can? Maybe an onboard with Herr Röhrl driving, sure.
@@youtubemodsaresnowflakelef7692 “gassing” misha
Cameras and drone shots are next level - amazing stuff!
Having done the ESC Ice Experience with the same "race" last year (964 vs. Yaris) - it's really impressive how calm he keeps the car, without any type of understeer. The 964 on ice would always go into understeer as soon as you were 1% too quick, what an amazing control he has.
Thanks Misha for recent content with Walter. I live in his region and sometimes see him on the road driving some classic or new Porsche. But I really meet him on your channel, so I know why still following you after 6 years by now.
Lap of a life time, great to see a genuine legend still smiling and in good health after all these years. Great upload, much appreciated.
"He does not have to show off" says Misha as he practises a 🚅 pirouette himself. 😀
I've seen a lot of videos of people driving the GR Yaris in the snow/on ice, This thing never disappoints 🔥🔥
Walter Rohrl is just a god damn beast of a racer that no one can eclipse him. Plus watching him on ice and snow in a RWD? That's like his wheelhouse as he did in fact won a WRC championship in 2 separate RWDs thus he do know what he's doing.
Misha its really awesome to see where you have reached in these years and the community that you have built. I have driven rally myself over 11years now and i am 21yo, i hope to meet you and Walter one day and talk about cars and have a lap on the Nürburgring together maybe ;) (I haven`t been there before) but one day i will visit the aswesome track of joy. In the meantime, keep up the good work and the wheels spinning.
The fact that the Yaris still gets the attention between all these Porsches… such a smash hit
Your cinematic shots and music selection is amazing each time man!
You can feature Mr Rohrl anytime. I always appreciate the opportunity to spectate a wizard at work.
Pretty sure Walter Röhrl doesn't even know who he is, this looks like one of those events where you pay money to be allowed to drift on the same track as him. Walter Röhrl hates publicity and attention, so I very much doubt he cares to be in the video of some youtube he's never heard of.
That's no knock on Misha, just telling it how it is...
Thanks Misha, this just shows that winter really is more fun.
Very nice drone follow of the 2 cars sideways in your last Dunlop corner
all three camera angles are so SICK 10/10
Drone shots look mega 👌🏻😎
I loved that video! Thanks a lot for that♥️
Walter not only drives super fast, he also preserves his car and wheels while doing so...
Walter Rohrl, winter wonderland in Sweden and a couple of great cars. What else to wish... Thanks for sharing it! If somehow somewhen it would be possible maybe feature with Juha Kankkunen as a suggestion?
Probably also a little difference with tires. You seem to have very little grip there with the Yaris, but this was a prime example of slower is faster. Most corners where a bit overcooked which made you surely a bit slower at the exits.
In the end the only thing that matters is fun and that you had!
Another great video from the frozen North. Love these, but do miss the food shots. 🍕🍔🍗
What a honour it must have been being behind the master, great upload.
Aaaaand this is really good choise for ice track
I love the "balm" pronunciation 😂🤙🏽
Ice driving is a blast, isn't it? What a memory to have though, running behind a true legend of motorsport.
Amazing experience you had there, very jealous. The highlight being going sideways with a genuine legend for sure. I was imagining Mr Rohrl also having an upload with click bait title “tailgated by Russian in mini Toyota” 😂 Walter is in my top 3 drivers of all time, along with Mr Senna and Mr Bell. Followed by modern legends like Mr Estre/Kern.
That'd be totally against Walter Röhrl's character, so keep imagining. Röhrl hates the publicity and attention he got from rallying.
Senna is the exact opposite of Walter Röhrl also, hence "interesting" list. Röhrl hated circuit racing, literally saying "you have to be a swine to do it", whereas Senna embodied that "spirit" via being willing to ram others to get the "win".
For example as he did with Prost. Senna and his fans can lie as much as they want that it was an accident, the telemetry data tells the truth that he even stepped on the gas more to make sure he'd hit him and hit him hard enough to take him out + endanger both of them.
I love this Little car and can‘t wait getting startet again….mine is still in the garage due to the salt on the streets 😏
Misha is now Iceman2!🎉🎉
Driving on Snow Is All About Looking Whats Ahead and Getting the Car in the Right Position and Not Going to Fast as That is a Big Mistake ,And Having Snow Tyres,You Dont need a 4x4 Super Rally special To Have Fun .
He's got a trick to it that even pros don't know. This would be a dream to drive along side Walter just to see how I would compare.
Legendary shot at #0:43 ❤
Walter is drifting such a tight line.. Truly awesome this man
After rallying in WRC Sweden for years with RWD, his line got tighter naturally, not only for going faster, but also in order to survive and finish rallies..
Living the dream misha ❤
Weight over the back wheels and great throttle control. Maybe a front wheel drive would of stood a chance against walter. And if your tires are spinning you have too much throttle.
Reminds me of winter driving in a storm in quebec. No traction control and controlled throttle .
The 1990/91 Honda Prelude 4WS was quicker than the 911 through the slalom cones back in the day😂
Fantastic episode! How do I get a Bilstein hoodie like that? 😢
No substitute for an older air-cooled 911...most beautiful automobile out there.
Yeah man. Some nice shots to start. Then some awesome 4 wheel drifting. You need to speak to the LZ crew 🔥
It was fun!
Damn that rothmans livery is fire.
Walter is 76 years old and can drive like that in those conditions.
I'd struggle to walk down a street at that age.
We definitely need more pedal cams
Cool experience, lucky you
Enjo your mailbox being full Labello's for the rest of the summer.. 😝
Dancing in the snow... From Walter with love. 😉
Mr. Rohrl is the man. I envy you little about this one.
I put on a jacket. Looks so cold! 🥶
Good video
superb
Very nice video Misha, enjoy your days, I wish I could do that someday, meet a legend and be able to have fun with him on a track…
Is it possible to purchase somewhere as merch?
You must do left breaking 😉!!
Bucketlist updated: "Do AWD drifts on an ice track" has been added!
Walter is a driving god!
The White Hell 🥳
Have you considered covering the brake with your left foot? Should help you efforts and bring even more joy🕺🏁
Not sure if I'm right about that but in your defense, I think some one like Ken Block does gets to pick the front/rear drive balance to his needs and probably has more power on the rear then the Yaris.
Think if you sum up the steeringwheel degrees per lap he used versus yours you would be amazed 😀.
Yaris is his natural habitat
Think this might be a decent place to ask. Anybody point me to ring opening times for this year in the next few months, me and a friend are heading over
The only man on earth to beat AWD monsters like Audi with a rwd car (a Lancia) in a rally.
There is a lot of driving legends out there, but only 1 driving God.
"A car isn't fast enough until you stand in front of it in the morning and you're afraid to unlock it."
"You can't treat a car like a human being. A car needs love!"
"Good drivers have the fly residue on their side windows."
"Oversteer is when the passenger is scared. Understeer is when I'm scared."
"If you see the tree you're driving into, you're understeering. If you just hear it, you're oversteering."
"Popo meter? If you feel anything in the car, it's the note they put on your toe!"
Walter Röhrl
Any new info whether there will be new gen or facelift of the Yaris GR?
I hope they wont bring FL or sonething. You guys had your Chance
@@hans-georgdergummibaum5061 Tf, dont get why you wouldnt want it, such a good car but the ergonomics ruin it, if they would fix that and add digital driver's display (thats subjective) it would make it so much better
Mischa, why didn’t you use left braking to balance the car through the corners? That is the way rally car drivers do it.
Because this is probably not a real rally car, and in more modern cars (even early 2000s cars) you can't left foot brake, unless you disable some electronics first. The electronics won't allow you to brake and input gas at the same time, if you tap the brake the gas pedal is essentially disabled.
You can disable that, but if you do it in your street car you void your insurance. Not to mention it's easier said than done if you don't know how to do it properly, you can lose control fairly quickly. And that is in ideal road conditions, let alone driving a car on snow (and maybe ice even). Especially a car that is probably not yours, but a rental for this event...
Pulling the handbrake in a AWD car without pressing the clutch? Isnt that bad for the driveline?
I was cringing while watching that as well
I suppose it depends on whether the car’s computer automatically disconnects the rear wheels when you pull the handbrake. Fully mechanical, yes it would be a bad thing…but there are such complex electronic/computerized controls in that car (it has multiple modes that change the torque split F/R) I’d hazard a guess the Yaris handles it just fine.
In GR Yaris, rear diff clutch pack decouples it when you engage the hand brake, it is a feature.
@@romka_ind thats what I wanted to know. Thanx for clearing that up!
@@romka_indindeed!
The car control of rally drivers is another level
A speedometer cam would've been useless because it doesn't actually show your speed when your wheels are spinning and the RPM can be heard.
You made the right decision there.
WR has still got it, made you look ragged.
gr yaris is the best budget driver's car!
Misha, just thought you'de love to see this (if you haven't already): czcams.com/video/x4RNu8AAGXc/video.html
it's the time attack of the original NSX-R, back in 1992.
A fun lap starts at 5m00s and is follwed by the official time attack.
For your reference, the top speed of each gear is: 2nd - 130km/h, 3rd - 175km/h, 4th - 235km/h and 5th is about 300km/h
Hope you like it, specially to notice the differences on a circuit that you know like the back of your hand.
Why not brake with your left foot like on the Nürburgring!?
Because I forgot that I can🤣
@@mgcharoudin ah ok, I thought must then, I thought because of the mountain shoes 😁
TOYOTA 😎👍🏻
Hiking 🥾 boots😂
Schöne Aufnahmen, aber warum nicht einfach mal innen fahren statt die snow banks außen umzupflügen? :-)
How the hell does Sweden's ice track have less snow than the ones we have here near Winnipeg?!?
You know, climate, geology, time, basic stuff.
The southernest part of sweden has almost no snow even in the winter, the northernest part has snow all year round. So it very much depend on where you are.
Study geography 1st, then write something smart.
@@rc2634 Are you replying to me? You didnt think geology was the right term or what? Or was climate the wrong answer?
@@rc2634 Winnipeg is at just about 50 degrees. The southernmost point of Sweden is around 55, which makes it further north than Winnipeg. My geography is fine, thanks
Well, it's no shame not to keep up with a 76-year-old guy if his name is Walter Röhrl.
I'm surprised he chose the 911. It's notorious for kicking the back end. An Audi 4X4 would have been my choice.
Why do mustangs sound like a bunch of lawn mowers
feet cam is better
I would keep up you guys in my 1994 Ford Escort 105 hp on summer tires
You shout get some more driving lessons….
I am not as good a driver as you, by super far, but I can tell your weak spot is this sliding stuff. I want to say your too late to react to the car, the cars already well sideways, momentum is saying more sideways coming (unsavable angles) and im screaming at the screen to start unwinding the wheel, following the momentum so you can softly catch it not correct when its too late. Your not telling the tires what to do, your telling the whole cars momentum where it should be. A couple of those full lockers is actually out of control but your sort of cheating with awd letting it pull you back. Not the exp you had in the rwd cars, cant cheat so it spins or the lines off. The theory applies to all cars, base physics type thinking. You got snow there, take a low hp awd or rwd car out, turn off any rational thoughts and car handling/driving ediquite "rules" and just feel the car, slide it around, go with the mistakes, see if you can save them, go be really hoony and illegal (safely-ish) try weird shit weird inputs just to see how things react. Every moment struggling is teaching your subconscious something new. You have the grip experience, gaining more with this kind of hoon/rally style driving would only enhance your driving abilities! Thanks for making all this wonderful content! Love your ch!!
Hey hey! You are correct, the only thing is I am doing therse things on purpose as I am not trying to keep the car as straight as possiblem, but go overdone sideways. I am having fun here and something that looks good on camera. When it's competition (this year or last year with Stig Blomqvist) you can see a totally different driving style from me.
czcams.com/video/7exKummOSvY/video.html Вова тоже покатался на Ярике
Don't you have any ambition at all to drive well? Especially when Walter is around.
people give too much merit to the Yaris...