Bedard Is NOT Happy About This...

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  • @RobTalksHockey
    @RobTalksHockey  Před 5 měsíci +25

    Which prospect has been on as much of an island as Connor Bedard?

    • @JerryCuberton
      @JerryCuberton Před 5 měsíci +6

      Early Sakic and Gretzky

    • @godslayer8894
      @godslayer8894 Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@user-su7fq5jf4p I don't know if I would say that. During his rookie year, he at least had good players around him. Bedard Has no one.

    • @4u2nvHock3y
      @4u2nvHock3y Před 5 měsíci +6

      ​@@user-su7fq5jf4pMy bad McDavid only had what Eberle in his prime Draisital who was still very good Nugent Hopkins who was elite Taylor Hall who also was elite. Yet you say McDavid had no one when Bedard now has Kurashev and Foligno???

    • @godslayer8894
      @godslayer8894 Před 5 měsíci

      @@4u2nvHock3y Your comparing Players who Are not on the level of what McDavid had and listen mcdavid is the best player in the world. I'm not saying he isn't I'm just saying that you have to look at the roster. McDavid, at least had a little support. Obviously not that much, but he has more than bedard did

    • @4u2nvHock3y
      @4u2nvHock3y Před 5 měsíci +3

      @godslayer8894 It was an exaggeration. Clearly McDavid had way more support then Bedard. It shouldn't even be a conversation

  • @dalriada
    @dalriada Před 5 měsíci +39

    I think right now Bedard is most unhappy about having to eat through a straw.

  • @tenzu9966
    @tenzu9966 Před 5 měsíci +193

    I dont think most fans realize, they have so many injuries right now and the reason they're not doing so well is because they sold everything for bedard, if you want the first overall pick you have to be bad, really bad. If Crosby wasn't drafted to Pittsburgh, the penguins wouldn't be there. So give it time, they are rebuilding, they are being bad to get good.

    • @keir13
      @keir13 Před 5 měsíci +6

      Same with Lemieux before him and how many first overall picks did Edmonton squander before they got McDavid? Chicago will turn it around, it’s just a matter of time.

    • @Jarlaxled-wg6wj
      @Jarlaxled-wg6wj Před 5 měsíci +1

      Yep, just like Wembanyama on San Antonio. Hawks management just need to not suck with terrible decisions like Leafs have done the past few... decades?

    • @FC-tq1yj
      @FC-tq1yj Před 5 měsíci

      Before Edmonton won all those first overall picks ... there was Pittsburgh... Crosby's draft year was after a whole lockout season... every team in the NHL had an equal shot at winning the draft lottery... and Penguins won... many claim the league rigged the draft for Pittsburgh to win because Pittsburgh was in bad shape business wise and having Crosby shadow Mario (he lived at Lemieux's for his first season.)
      4 straight years: Flower (1st overall), Malkin (2nd Overall), Crosby (1), Staal (2)... and... Letang in the 3rd round of Crosby's draft year... Crosby was super lucky to get drafted by Pittsburgh ... lots of talent to grow with and surrounded by all star vets.
      I feel bad for Bedard... he's in a worse predicament than Lindros when he.refused.to sign with the Nordiques

    • @FC-tq1yj
      @FC-tq1yj Před 5 měsíci

      Imagine if the NHL has used the previous draft years order... Crosby would have played alongside Ovechkin.

    • @MisterCaution
      @MisterCaution Před 5 měsíci

      I don’t think most Davidson apologists realize the team has regressed substantially since Bowman and is currently the worst Hawk roster of the past half-century with spending lower than since before the cap era. That’s what Wirtz cheapness looks like.

  • @kentharding121
    @kentharding121 Před 5 měsíci +20

    I was at the Oilers vs Blackhawks game and let me tell you that goal, that early into the game, was surreal. He’s so fast, so accurate, so talented. It is actually hard to believe watching him IN PERSON. I know they lost the game, but that doesn’t diminish that guys’ talent. Unreal hockey player and I can’t wait to see what happens with the future of his career.

    • @laszlojakab5071
      @laszlojakab5071 Před 4 měsíci

      Thought the same thing when I saw him in New Jersey. It happened to be the game he got cracked- what a riot.

    • @mr.blackhawk142
      @mr.blackhawk142 Před 4 měsíci

      Bedard is the ONLY reason I continued to watch the Blahcocks! Cya in a few weeks Connor!

    • @thatonelonghairedguy764
      @thatonelonghairedguy764 Před 3 měsíci

      schlop schlop schlop

  • @neeltheother2342
    @neeltheother2342 Před 5 měsíci +47

    Conparing the Blackhawks roster to the Leafs core says more about the Leafs than about rebuilding teams lol.

    • @RobTalksHockey
      @RobTalksHockey  Před 5 měsíci +11

      For sure. But the fact that 3 players are going to make more than an entire roster is just funny. Not a slight to Toronto though

    • @neeltheother2342
      @neeltheother2342 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@RobTalksHockey I can speak for a lot of non-leaf fans that we def take it as a slight towards toronto lol.

  • @KyleMacSkill
    @KyleMacSkill Před 5 měsíci +40

    Matthews wasn't viewed as a generational talent going into his draft year there was quite a bit of discussion between him and Laine going first overall throughout the year.. Very comparable to the 2019 draft with Jack Hughes and Kakko

    • @ctaylor8003
      @ctaylor8003 Před 5 měsíci

      His skill was never an issue. It was his disturbing behaviour and criminality that almost held him back

    • @AlexRasdfghjkl
      @AlexRasdfghjkl Před 5 měsíci

      @@ctaylor8003 Bro, what are you even talking about, kid?

    • @cjlb49
      @cjlb49 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Matthews was definitely considered a generational talent, as was Jack Eichel. He played on Team North America in the World Cup of Hockey in 2016 without ever playing an NHL game. In fact, if Matthews was born 2 days earlier he would've been eligible for the McDavid/Eichel draft and there were some who said he would've been picked before Eichel.
      The media was trying to develop a rivalry like the Crosby/Ovi rivalry. Laine was on fire before the draft so some thought he could challenge for first overall...at least that was the narrative.

    • @KyleMacSkill
      @KyleMacSkill Před 5 měsíci +7

      @cjlb49 Matthews made the Team NA team after being drafted, generational talents are players who are talked about years before bring drafted, like Crosby McDavid and Bedard were. Matthews wasn't in the same realm. Also the Ovi Crosby comparison doesn't even make sense because they were both #1 picks starting at the same time and both put up 100 point seasons as rookies which has never happened before in the history of the NHL. The talents I mentioned were all known to go first overall, so the fact that there was even any debate with Matthews is evidence he wasn't viewed in the same class. Neither was eichel so not even sure why you brought him up

    • @chelious1973
      @chelious1973 Před 5 měsíci +10

      @@cjlb49Ah. No. Matthews isn’t a generational talent. Nor was he ever considered one.
      There have been 5 generational talents in the modern NHL era. Orr, Gretzky, Lemieux, Crosby, and McDavid. Thats it. Not every player is. And contrary to what the video states, Ovie isn’t one either. But he is close as you can get.
      I would put Matthews in the same category. With reservations. Kucherov, Mac, Drai, Ovie also. They are close. Real close.
      Two things separates generational talents from everyone else. Their elite skill and hockey iq. They are playing checkers while everyone else is playing chess.
      A good indicator would be their assist totals or assists per game.
      Matthews, Mac, Ovie, have generational skill but not the hockey iq to go with it. Mac has shades of it though.
      Kucherov does no doubt have generational hockey iq, but not generational skill like a Mac, or Ovie. Physical skill. He is unique in that respect. But scary thing he is getting better as amazing as that may seem. He has that elite skill but he had to work to develop that.
      Mac, Matthews, Ovie for example naturally have it.
      I would say Jagr, Messier for example would be in a similar group.
      Bedard is considered one. We shall see but he is certainly playing like one. The term “generational, has been over used too much. It means the best of their era.
      Crosby dominated for his generation, McDavid his, now Bedard is a wait and see.
      Matthews is a fantastic player. Generational, not quite.

  • @nelspaulson3099
    @nelspaulson3099 Před 5 měsíci +18

    SO I am a hawks fan and am watching this happen live. In addition to what you brough up with injuries.
    1. The Hawks are letting the young kids play to see how they do. For years this was a major issue. I Like Richardson as a head coach and Am glad the kids are being coached by him.
    2. The Hawks have solid prospects. 6 of them were in the World Junior. 4 on Team USA, I believe at leaste 3 will be on the hawks In the next year or two. Nazaar (wing) might even play with Bedard. There are a few others in college hockey i am keeping my eye on that show promise.
    3. The Hawks have been taking on teams bad contracts to get those prospects. Next season is the first they can use their salary cap space. Right now they have abut 8 mill in space if cap friendly is to be believed.
    4. The Hawks are thinking long term. Building a core, then adding to it. I fully expect a large turnover of people on the ice while looking for all those peices as well as getting the kids to grow.
    In addition
    The Hawks started to show a physical style of hockey. I was impressed at the Hawks facing the Oilers (Jan 9, 2024). Lost 2-1 and only allowed 15 shots on goal. They physically made sure that the oilers knew exactly where they were and that they would feel sore the next day. If they can have their bottom lines play that way, then a great offensive line centered with Bedard should win many hockey games.

  • @addisonvanzant6415
    @addisonvanzant6415 Před 5 měsíci +19

    I’d say Nathan McKinnon should’ve been on the list for the generational talent

    • @baiqi44
      @baiqi44 Před 5 měsíci +4

      He's easily better than Matthews. He's been the 2nd best player in the league for a while now. I'd easily put Kucherov ahead of Matthews as well, but Kucherov isn't a centre so moot point.

    • @at0m558
      @at0m558 Před 5 měsíci

      @baiqi44 I agree and I'm a die hard leafs fan! Those are the only two guys I would put above Matthews though other than the mentioned

    • @christopherharte4741
      @christopherharte4741 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Die hard pens fan here, yeah Mackinnon and Ovechkin should be on this list

    • @ethanparker7900
      @ethanparker7900 Před 4 měsíci

      i mean he surely has the hype of one

    • @ethanparker7900
      @ethanparker7900 Před 4 měsíci

      mackinnon and ovi yes I eman ovi literally is and stamkos should too cause he basically is ovi 2.0 @@christopherharte4741

  • @yaslerfuj
    @yaslerfuj Před 5 měsíci +18

    @2:20 this is how injuries have felt for the Wild as well this season, unsure the exact numbers but it's been brutal

    • @jordynbebus6641
      @jordynbebus6641 Před 5 měsíci +2

      they were once icing almost 50 million in cap at one point between injuries and buyouts

    • @Equinvinity
      @Equinvinity Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@jordynbebus6641I saw somewhere that it ended up reaching $78 million at one point

    • @JohnB-mo4kq
      @JohnB-mo4kq Před 5 měsíci +1

      Except the Wild, instead of rebuilding during a time of immense cap hell, they decided to sign a bunch of old dudes to limp into the playoffs only to lose in the first round. They had a prime opportunity the past few years to get amazing draft picks, but failed. I get it from a business standpoint, you want fans in the stands, but this is MN, we fill the Excel whether we suck or not.

    • @jordynbebus6641
      @jordynbebus6641 Před 5 měsíci

      @@JohnB-mo4kq We had our chance in 2021-22 and choked… gotta remain competitive during Kaprizov era guessing that was their plan. Now it’s going to fail.

    • @JohnB-mo4kq
      @JohnB-mo4kq Před 5 měsíci

      @@jordynbebus6641 But if remaining competitive means losing in the first round over and over. How is that helping Kaprizov? Even in 21-22, we clearly didn't have the depth for a Cup run.

  • @JasonPettyjohn
    @JasonPettyjohn Před 5 měsíci +10

    Teemu Selanne? Mario Lemieux? They both had pretty incredible rookie seasons, outscoring teammates by a lot, and especially in Mario's case, on really terrible teams!

    • @Fyyt
      @Fyyt Před 5 měsíci +6

      No one will ever break Teemu rookie year for goals! NEVER

    • @baiqi44
      @baiqi44 Před 5 měsíci

      Yeah, I've never actually seen a true generational talent (forwards only) not score over a point per game average (minimum 40 games) in his rookie season. Not saying Bedard isn't going to be one, but I'm just saying I've never seen that player yet so Bedard might become the first. He was on pace for almost a point a game when he got something like 32 in 34 games and then started struggling a bit after that, just before his injury.
      The video is wrong though on one topic. Bedard wasn't the only one with horrible linemates/teammates in his rookie season for a generational talent to perform really well. Lemiuex was on a horrible team with very bad linemates/teammates and he still scored over 100 points in his rookie season. True generational talents will turn other players around him into "good" point producers even in his rookie season.

    • @redline4124
      @redline4124 Před 5 měsíci

      That don't count because its not Bedard 😂

  • @cjlb49
    @cjlb49 Před 5 měsíci +2

    I've got a beef to pick with you about your analysis. Where did you get your stats to make your graph? Total points by top 5 teammates for McDavid's rookie year was 233 (Hall 65, Draisaitl 51, Eberle 47, Pouliot 36, RNH 34). Total points by top 5 teammates for Crosby's rookie year was 252 (Gonchar 58, Recchi 57, Leclair 51, Malone 44, Palffy 42). Total points by top 5 teammates for Matthews was 300 (JVR 62, Marner 61, Nylander 61, Kadri 61, Bozak 55). Your placement of these players on your graph is way off and I'm not sure where you get that the average production totals of the top 5 players would be 304 points.
    Also, McDavid didn't have Draisaitl dishing to him all year. Draisaitl started that year in the AHL then played with Hall when he joined the team. McDavid played a lot of time with Yakupov at the beginning of the year. Crosby's rookie year was impressive because he got 44 points more than his closest teammate. 3 of the top 4 point getters on the Maple Leafs were rookies in Matthew's rookie year.
    Plus, you say this is something that's never been seen in NHL history. But, you talk about Ovechkin in this video. The combined total of this top 5 teammates was 219 which I agree is more than the projected totals of Bedard's teammates, however, Ovechkin got 52 goals and 106 points in his rookie season.
    Finally, you say that if Bedard's teammates got 37% more points and that translated to his totals he'd be on pace for 110 points. What? He was on pace for 69 points before his injury. 69 X 1.37 = 95. Nowhere near 110 points.
    I love Bedard, but come on. Your math just doesn't add up.

    • @RobTalksHockey
      @RobTalksHockey  Před 5 měsíci

      I calculated the top 5 scorers on an 82 game pace. I couldve included Ovi, but I was referencing the Center position

    • @cjlb49
      @cjlb49 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@RobTalksHockey Ok, that's a weird hypothetical then. Still though, that 37% increase on his projected 69 points is 95 points not 110. Which is less than Crosby's rookie year.

  • @Noemro
    @Noemro Před 5 měsíci +14

    I'm not even a Blackhawks fan and I'm so choked that Bedard is injured.

    • @rduke325
      @rduke325 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Personally, I feel bad for the kid. But I am beyond tired of hearing about this player who plays for a completely irrelevant team.

    • @alfredfleming3289
      @alfredfleming3289 Před 4 měsíci

      Sorry it’s hit hockey, if we have to turn it into ringette so guys like him can shine , you can keep it. They need somebody like Wendal Clark to teach these floaters to keep they’re head out of their butt.

  • @dsc4178
    @dsc4178 Před 5 měsíci +15

    Agreed, Bedard needs better linemates all through the lineup.

    • @peterlawrence7427
      @peterlawrence7427 Před 5 měsíci +5

      no way, your saying a team on a rebuild needs better players?!? crazy

    • @teferitoure9892
      @teferitoure9892 Před 5 měsíci

      @@peterlawrence7427facts, all the talent will be coming to the NHL in the next 3 years, plus all the money we’ll have and draft capital. Don’t talk anything sports with punks whose mommy didn’t let go outside and play with the rough boys!

  • @johndef5075
    @johndef5075 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Injuries suck. Our Blue Jackets admittedly arent Stanley cup contenders. But injuries have really put a dent in our lineup last year and this year.

    • @magenstaffarts
      @magenstaffarts Před 4 měsíci

      Ain't that the truth? Injuries have been HELL for us.

  • @ROKgod510
    @ROKgod510 Před 5 měsíci

    KEep it up, lets get rob to 100k

  • @TheScotian82
    @TheScotian82 Před 5 měsíci +13

    MacKinnon is as good as Crosby, McDavid and Matthews.
    In fact he's just as talented, but beastlier.
    Nova Scotia, reppin with weapons.

    • @kevinrichardi1005
      @kevinrichardi1005 Před 5 měsíci +2

      was wondering why Mac wasn't on that list of players in the beginning tbh...

    • @Iam18
      @Iam18 Před 4 měsíci

      ya i thought it was weird mackinnon wasnt mentioned, oh well. thats cool i didnt know he was from NS tho

    • @BlackVelvetDaydream
      @BlackVelvetDaydream Před 4 měsíci +1

      MacKinnon is probably as good as Matthews. Neither of them are anywhere near Crosby or McDavid, or any other generation-defining talent like Ovechkin or Kane.

  • @maxskogh6289
    @maxskogh6289 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Would be interesting to see devil's vs blackhawks now. Both teams have their generational player out and a bunch of key players are also on the injury.

    • @at0m558
      @at0m558 Před 5 měsíci

      Devils have way more available talent

  • @ITS_ABOUT_HOCKEY
    @ITS_ABOUT_HOCKEY Před 5 měsíci

    Nice vid!

  • @Swisba
    @Swisba Před 3 měsíci

    This is why i want nhl players back in the Olympics. You get to see what players are like with good teammates.

  • @kaelathomson4676
    @kaelathomson4676 Před 5 měsíci +2

    How is Ovi not apart of the generational stars list. He may not be good this year but he's still a generational goal scorer and player.

    • @superstar16602
      @superstar16602 Před 5 měsíci

      well maybe because this is a list of centers and he is a left wing?
      lets try our best to concentrate on the theme here ok ....good

    • @BlackVelvetDaydream
      @BlackVelvetDaydream Před 4 měsíci

      I think Ovechkin and Kane both need to be in there.

    • @superstar16602
      @superstar16602 Před 4 měsíci

      for the 2nd time...they are not centers...hence why they are not on the list...follow along little girl
      @@BlackVelvetDaydream

  • @ryanc6545
    @ryanc6545 Před 5 měsíci

    Hey Rob, What song starts at 3:44? Great video (:

  • @NIGHTBREED3R
    @NIGHTBREED3R Před 5 měsíci +10

    Bedard will be fine in the NHL. Give him some decent mates amd watch him go !!

    • @harrymaguire5740
      @harrymaguire5740 Před 5 měsíci

      Blud let me tell you something
      Ughhh Blud I don't wanna tell you but fine...
      The power of Blud is universal. Make sure to celebrate nation Blud day on Febuary 31

    • @CrazyDuck27
      @CrazyDuck27 Před 5 měsíci

      He'll do fine in Anaheim

    • @harrymaguire5740
      @harrymaguire5740 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@CrazyDuck27 Blud let me tell you something
      I don't speak English
      Honorary Blud

  • @die4christ502
    @die4christ502 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Great video bud! The graph was incredible.

  • @zachgamingzone
    @zachgamingzone Před 5 měsíci +8

    why does every hockey content creator just casually forget about mackinnon like hes not a total monster lol

    • @jsshea3847
      @jsshea3847 Před 5 měsíci +1

      He didn’t really apply to this video since he wasn’t super productive his first few years besides his rookie year

    • @RobTalksHockey
      @RobTalksHockey  Před 5 měsíci +13

      He didn’t come out of the draft as a “generational phenom”

    • @grahammckinnon6455
      @grahammckinnon6455 Před 5 měsíci

      Or OVI? Yeah know the leading active goal scorer

    • @whitepaws60
      @whitepaws60 Před 5 měsíci

      @@RobTalksHockey Not only that but people thought he was kinda a disappointment for his first few years in the league, Crazy how he went from barely managing 50 points to 100+ points if hes healthy

    • @acolossalsquid
      @acolossalsquid Před 5 měsíci

      @@grahammckinnon6455yeah, Ovi is always forgotten in favor of Sydney crybaby

  • @tytheguy361
    @tytheguy361 Před 5 měsíci

    I really like some of the Hawks who have stepped up this season though. Kurashev, Donato, and Dickinson have stepped up and have played pretty solid hockey. Korchinski is also playing pretty well as a young defensemen, and I can see him being really good in the future.

    • @jdog345
      @jdog345 Před 5 měsíci

      I agree although I would switch out Donato for Mrazek, Donato has been a bit of a disappointment in my opinion and mrazek should be, in my opinion, in the talks for the Vézina for the unbelievable games he has played.

  • @traceonline
    @traceonline Před 5 měsíci

    With the first half of the season over, what kind of draft pick are the Hawks looking at this year? Are there any big names in the upcoming draft?

  • @MosquitoMurderer
    @MosquitoMurderer Před 5 měsíci

    This channel is proof that Quality > Quantity

  • @irafair3015
    @irafair3015 Před 5 měsíci

    Wait, I thought the "X" axis was the horizontal and "Y" was the vertical?

  • @JoshuaVasquez42
    @JoshuaVasquez42 Před 4 měsíci +1

    “Unknown incident”😂you know what he did

  • @ThundaStrack
    @ThundaStrack Před 5 měsíci

    Great vid. Subbed and liked.

  • @ojbarrera4291
    @ojbarrera4291 Před 4 měsíci

    Damn no love/honorable mention for Barkov? Crazy

  • @SaltyLegion
    @SaltyLegion Před 5 měsíci

    Dude!!! So close!!! Any day now...😁😎

  • @scottritchie4664
    @scottritchie4664 Před 5 měsíci

    Nailed the Flames take.

  • @chrismac5560
    @chrismac5560 Před 5 měsíci

    The situation Bedard was drafted first overall into was similar to Taylor Hall and Ryan Nugent-Hopkins. Hall recorded 42 points in 62 games in his rookie season and peaked at 93 points in 76 games. RNH recorded 52 points in 62 games in his rookie season and peaked at 104 points in 82 games albeit that season was playing with McDavid. What Bedard was doing given his team situation prior to the injury was ridiculous and right on par with McDavid. While my pre season prediction of "97 points if he doesn't get hurt" is now out of the question for Bedard, I wouldn't be surprised to see 130 point plus season(s) in Bedard's near future if he's provided some teammates of even mediocre quality. Also can we just take a moment to recognize Petr Mrazek and Arvid Soderblom as the only two players (Bedard excluded) who are keeping that Chicago dumpster fire from looking like a bottom of the barrel Junior C team that's trying to compete in the NHL

  • @riquardbeks
    @riquardbeks Před 4 měsíci

    I do love this theory and it makes total sence! Thank you!

  • @brandonk9607
    @brandonk9607 Před 5 měsíci

    Flip those axis’s. Remember: “Y to the sky”

  • @Solaris501
    @Solaris501 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Shorter players (or anyone) should be able to use full face protection if they want to. They’re at a disadvantage when getting hit by bigger players.

    • @richardprescott5939
      @richardprescott5939 Před 4 měsíci

      The PLAYERS don't want it. They went kicking and screaming into first helmets and then Visors.

  • @gamefaces7990
    @gamefaces7990 Před 5 měsíci

    You have the axes wrong the y is the vertical and the x is horizontal

  • @blainehallmark2002
    @blainehallmark2002 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Just bought Maple Leafs Team pack, also back in november i got to sit behind the stl blues bench to take a picture of neighbors with the canvas black jake neighbors, and just got the makar opc plat rookie auto graded by TAG so hoping its good grade when it comes back, RTH hope the new years been treating you well!!

    • @RobTalksHockey
      @RobTalksHockey  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Thanks for the support brother, I'll have it shipped out first tomorrow! That's awesome though haha, good luck!

  • @Jinjee_YamYam
    @Jinjee_YamYam Před 4 měsíci

    I am really happy to see Bedard. He is just a star. Will grow so much with other good players. Can’t wait for it.

  • @Blt-rr2lm
    @Blt-rr2lm Před 5 měsíci

    I thought it was going to be about early hair loss and how to deal with it.

  • @ryanlauzon177
    @ryanlauzon177 Před 5 měsíci

    I loved the comparison between the leafs and hawks cap distribution. Hawks could probably beat the leafs in a 7 game series too

  • @OWlsfordshire
    @OWlsfordshire Před 5 měsíci +2

    So Matthews is considered more of a generational talent than Ovechkin and Patrick Kane?

    • @RobTalksHockey
      @RobTalksHockey  Před 5 měsíci

      Ovechkin no, Kane yes

    • @brandona9326
      @brandona9326 Před 4 měsíci

      He said Centers

    • @magenstaffarts
      @magenstaffarts Před 4 měsíci

      The qualifier is Centers, not Wingers.

    • @OWlsfordshire
      @OWlsfordshire Před 4 měsíci

      @magenstaffarts Okay, I was just curious. I only started watching in 2018 but it seems like the Blackhawks had a ton of success with Kane. Doesn't seem he gets the same level of respect as Ovi/Crosby or even the younger generation like McDavid/Matthews.

  • @thenightryder3469
    @thenightryder3469 Před 4 měsíci

    Hot take with the Bedard hit.. most people say that the hit was clean or bedard is soft, blah blah blah.. completely disregarding the fact that HE BROKE HIS FREAKING JAW. Last time i checked my jaw is very much attached to my head, but not hockey players? Strange. 🤔

  • @user-qc5ve4qe9c
    @user-qc5ve4qe9c Před 4 měsíci

    Crosby' rookie season had almost every single player retire before the all-star game that was veterans. So these numbers are skewed.

  • @Ghostly52
    @Ghostly52 Před 5 měsíci

    and to think that apparently my bosses daughter and coworker is "dating" Bedard lmao fml

  • @LFC-mr6yb
    @LFC-mr6yb Před 5 měsíci +1

    Bedard will get better teammates and who knows maybe they get Celebrini. Toronto drafted Nylander and Marner before Matthews. Pitt drafted Malkin before Crosby and he played with Mario in his rookie year. Draisaitl and RNH were drafted before Mcdavid.

    • @Ironguy-gm6vf
      @Ironguy-gm6vf Před 5 měsíci

      Toews and Keith before Kane

    • @MisterCaution
      @MisterCaution Před 5 měsíci

      @@Ironguy-gm6vf Keith was drafted nowhere in the neighborhood of Toews or Kane, many seasons earlier and by a completely different GM.

  • @LordBitememan
    @LordBitememan Před 5 měsíci

    Hey! I will have no ill spoken of Perry. Corey Perry was like a father to Bedard.

  • @horsetrainingpro
    @horsetrainingpro Před 5 měsíci

    What’s Bedard not happy about?

  • @philtorrez4198
    @philtorrez4198 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Bedard should have gone to Arizona.

    • @SnapshotMC94
      @SnapshotMC94 Před 5 měsíci

      Bedard should of went to the Habs or knucks

    • @MisterCaution
      @MisterCaution Před 5 měsíci

      I’m guessing the NHL is thrilled with him going to a U.S. original six club instead of being stuck in Montreal or in (yet another) Pacific Time Canadian club like McDavid.

  • @LordBitememan
    @LordBitememan Před 5 měsíci

    Man, Bebard's numbers would be awesome if he went to a team that didn't sell off every scrap of quality they had to be a terrible team in order to land Bedard.

  • @Canuck-Fiend
    @Canuck-Fiend Před 5 měsíci

    If peterson doesnt want to resign with the canucks, trade him and a first to chicago for bedard, and boom canucks are now the best team, also bedard if traded is coming to canucks, he said so himself

  • @derick463
    @derick463 Před 5 měsíci

    No mention to Ovi who also separated himself from everyone

  • @liljon2879
    @liljon2879 Před 5 měsíci

    Misnaming the x and y axis hurts my mathing soul

    • @RobTalksHockey
      @RobTalksHockey  Před 5 měsíci

      I the excel sheet, script and the changed the orientation of the graph. Forgive me

  • @JerryCuberton
    @JerryCuberton Před 5 měsíci +3

    Imma just say
    Joe sakic in the Q did it

  • @thecheesehead5840
    @thecheesehead5840 Před 4 měsíci

    ok… but that’s gonna be fixed this season. the cap is wide open for free agents

  • @occultustactical6138
    @occultustactical6138 Před 5 měsíci

    Nothing about his injury? I’d like to see Bedard have a little more modesty away from home ice. I know the trend lately is to taunt the local fans but that is not a good luck for a supreme talent like Bedard. We saw at the recent IHF that the US won. Teams would all look to the local Swedish crowd when they scored against their team. Conner should take the high road and simply celebrate with his line mates when he scores. Local fans can appreciate his talent much more when he’s not saying “Look I just made your goalie look stupid.”
    Few things say more about someone who is incredibly talented than modest demeanor.

  • @lil_thanos6213
    @lil_thanos6213 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Including Auston Matthews in the last great 4 players is an absolute joke

    • @RobTalksHockey
      @RobTalksHockey  Před 5 měsíci

      It’s hard to ignore that he’s outscoring Ovi in the same amount of games played and everyone considered Ovi to be generational

  • @seen48
    @seen48 Před 5 měsíci

    It’s soooooo bizarre what is going on in Chicago.

    • @MisterCaution
      @MisterCaution Před 5 měsíci

      Which part?

    • @seen48
      @seen48 Před 5 měsíci

      @@MisterCaution all the players they have traded away the past few years, how fast they have fallen in the league, the players they brought in this year to work with Bedard who are gone, injured. Did you not watch the video?

    • @MisterCaution
      @MisterCaution Před 5 měsíci

      @@seen48 I did, and I watch the team. The Hawks are in the middle of a teardown-style rebuild and staying at the cap floor to gather early picks. The injuries are certainly stacking up, but they weren’t built to win many games even with a healthy roster. The strategy itself is obvious, but of course there is room to disagree with it-I certainly do, but I’m in the minority in Chicago.

    • @seen48
      @seen48 Před 5 měsíci

      @@MisterCaution hey I get it. My brothers a huge Hawks fan so we talk about them from time to time. Bedard looks great out there and hopefully they can and will build around him. As an Oilers fan I went through what they called a decade of darkness. Rebuilding for over 10 years and only having Nuge and McDavid pan out as super high picks.

  • @DM-ot2pi
    @DM-ot2pi Před 5 měsíci

    What if is what if!

  • @SamyDLuffy-bh6ui
    @SamyDLuffy-bh6ui Před 4 měsíci

    I love Bedsy and he needs help asap, Celebrini comes !!

  • @benhobbs5766
    @benhobbs5766 Před 5 měsíci

    One thing to take into account with how bad the roster is: Ryan Donato, a 3rd/4th liner on the Kraken in the 2022-2023 season, has been a 1st liner for the Blackhawks.

  • @annakocol7116
    @annakocol7116 Před 4 měsíci

    put some respect on my man mackenzie entwistle (sunglass guy lol)

  • @CvrryMusic
    @CvrryMusic Před 5 měsíci

    this video very doesnt remember that mcdavid had yakupov on his line

  • @benguin_
    @benguin_ Před 5 měsíci

    A rare double ‘nice’.

  • @RCountryMusic
    @RCountryMusic Před 5 měsíci +1

    Ur forgetting about Nathan mackinnon

  • @addisonreed7443
    @addisonreed7443 Před 5 měsíci

    Not knowing what the x and y axis are just kills me.

    • @RobTalksHockey
      @RobTalksHockey  Před 5 měsíci

      I made the script before the graphic and ended up making the graph differently 😖

  • @flight23ksyoutube64
    @flight23ksyoutube64 Před 4 měsíci

    Corey Perry “unknown incident” 🌚

  • @dibari22
    @dibari22 Před 5 měsíci

    The Hawks suck so bad there is a real chance of them winning the lottery again. If they added Macklin Celebrini, people would lose their F'n minds. I'm here for it, it would be fin to watch.

  • @matthewklassen7457
    @matthewklassen7457 Před 4 měsíci

    He can request a trade, or suck it up! life is not fair. the draft lottery idea is majorly flawed

  • @kylefrost3328
    @kylefrost3328 Před 5 měsíci +1

    i think Crosby should be by the 250 mark for the graph. it looks like you grabbed his team stats from 06-07 because those top 5 non-including sid have 327 points (one being evgeni malkin), vs the 252 points his teammates had in the rookie 05-06 season. that pens team was awful and finished 2nd last which led to the jordan staal pick 2OA.

    • @RobTalksHockey
      @RobTalksHockey  Před 5 měsíci

      For each team I averaged the scoring on an 82 game pace

    • @kylefrost3328
      @kylefrost3328 Před 5 měsíci

      that makes sense then. thanks for clarifying man! @@RobTalksHockey

  • @tomassasik6264
    @tomassasik6264 Před 4 měsíci

    The graph is very misleading, because x axis starts at around 190 pts instead of 0. Otherwise Bedard would appear to be much closer to the other three.

    • @RobTalksHockey
      @RobTalksHockey  Před 4 měsíci

      I don’t agree with that sentiment. When I change the x axis to not start at zero, I’m basically zooming into the graph which better depicts the differences between stats. If you were trying to explain how the stock market changes on a daily basis, would you show a year to year graph? No you would go down to week to week if not day to day

  • @jean-luc-bedard
    @jean-luc-bedard Před 5 měsíci +6

    Finally someone saying this stuff so bluntly (that I’ve seen). Bedard is insane. I don’t even think the people most hyped on Bedard have really grasped the gravity of him. The lack of support translates far more than just “lacking good players”. Chicago literally cannot sustain offensive pressure. Think of the chances any given scorer gets when his team can pressure in the o zone for 30-45 seconds. Almost all of Bedards points are individual efforts off the rush. It’s all he has: making plays off of a rush. He is SO limited in every way yet still producing beyond what any 18 year old should be. I said he’d get 40 his rookie year, and that’s before the injuries and the general lack of offensive production around him. And he still could’ve pushed for it if he hadn’t got hurt. Within a few years, Bedard will have a 70 goal season. And I think his playmaking might be even better than his scoring…

  • @seekerscovereal
    @seekerscovereal Před 4 měsíci

    Bedard's +/- is nearly the worst in the league and the rookies, and not it's not because of his teammates it's because when he's on the ice he's a giant defensive liability that any goal scorer would aim for. His overall contribution is a lot of hype but not depth.

  • @Canadianvoice
    @Canadianvoice Před 4 měsíci

    Goalies are now poopie. Need to make the net smaller.

  • @sa35992
    @sa35992 Před 5 měsíci

    At 6:00 it should technically be Syomin, but the NHL transliterates ё as 'e' instead of 'yo' in last names

  • @jacobheaman500
    @jacobheaman500 Před 5 měsíci

    Wait did you say season ending injury then say he’s playing with bottom 6 talent? Which is it.. is he playing or are you just talking out of the side of your neck

  • @user-fg3nu5kg5y
    @user-fg3nu5kg5y Před 4 měsíci

    Bedard will be the next paul kariya unless the league bans touching altogether.

  • @danwilson7581
    @danwilson7581 Před 4 měsíci

    Imagine! if he had a linemate or two. Driesatl? hoo boy.

  • @godslayer8894
    @godslayer8894 Před 5 měsíci

    How good do you think gavin mckenna is gonna be?

  • @nino5003
    @nino5003 Před 5 měsíci

    how you gonna use a highlight of zadorov when talking about the flames 'great defensive core' and he's not even on the team anymore😂

  • @Qmocean
    @Qmocean Před 5 měsíci +1

    Leon wasnt much of a factor for mcdavid, as he didnt break out for 2 more seasons. Marner was zero factor fir matthews, as they didnt play together for almost 4 years. Matthews had hyman n brown for a lot of his rookie season. Sid only really played with malkin on the pp and games they were losing late. So no, bedard is not doing anything they didnt have to deal with as well.

    • @1bossman266
      @1bossman266 Před 4 měsíci

      Look at team points between the two for their rookie season. Oilers had a crap ton more team points meaning more chances were being given.

  • @Hobo-jo
    @Hobo-jo Před 5 měsíci +3

    Mccinon not getting listed is crazy

  • @bdubs1967
    @bdubs1967 Před 4 měsíci

    Eh... Only one has his name on the Stanley Cup. Until that happens, the other two are the Dan Marino's of hockey.

  • @esvignettes7592
    @esvignettes7592 Před 4 měsíci

    He’s amazing but the thing most don’t factor in is that he is literally their entire offense. His production wouldn’t be so high if his back wasn’t broken from carrying an AHL team to being mediocre

  • @KalenaRios69
    @KalenaRios69 Před 5 měsíci

    And it’s amazing how Anaheim got screwed out of 2 of em.

  • @wobblypops6251
    @wobblypops6251 Před 5 měsíci

    Jason dickinson is a good player on the hawks having a good season. Hawks are going to be so good in a couple years.

    • @superstar16602
      @superstar16602 Před 5 měsíci

      his last name sounds like a west virginia friday night

  • @Garak369
    @Garak369 Před 5 měsíci

    The title of this video is just click bait and is very misleading. Bedard isn't mad. He gets it. All that buying a bunch of UFA's and making big trades would do is put us against the cap, likely creating problems down the road, and exhaust all the assets we have built up. Patience is key and there is no need to rush things, yet. Not even close, really.

  • @bingo5694
    @bingo5694 Před 5 měsíci

    Does Connor Beddard look like young Tom Riddle to anyone else?

  • @thetruthhurts6652
    @thetruthhurts6652 Před 5 měsíci

    If they are wearing a Blackhawk’s jersey I’m assuming they are professional hockey players. Who the hell are you?

  • @gianmarcofidanza7173
    @gianmarcofidanza7173 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I think there easily could’ve been a solid line mate in Lucas Reichel but in this season he just doesn’t look NHL ready or on the verge of a bust. But thank god for Alex Valasic he is the most surprising player looking better than Seth jones I’d like to see a video on this guy pls @Rob Talks Hockey

    • @madmikeschannel8128
      @madmikeschannel8128 Před 5 měsíci +2

      I think Reichel will be there in a couple years. He’s still real young, he’ll be good too.

    • @gianmarcofidanza7173
      @gianmarcofidanza7173 Před 5 měsíci +1

      ⁠​⁠​⁠@@madmikeschannel8128I don’t he just seem to have lost total confidence him and the head coach of the hawks have gone at it a couple of times but he just seems to be not doing good and with other prospects doing well he very well could get kicked

    • @MisterCaution
      @MisterCaution Před 5 měsíci

      @@gianmarcofidanza7173 He’s played with absolute trash linemates all year and on PP2 most of the year, like 10 mins a night. Not sure what you want him to do playing with the likes of Entwhistle and Reese Johnson. To get him going, he needs consistency and someone to play with.

    • @gianmarcofidanza7173
      @gianmarcofidanza7173 Před 5 měsíci

      @@MisterCaution in the games he played with bedard he had one assist he have like one or two moves a game and that’s it he starts playing like a defensive player after that which is fine but he clearly is hesitant to shoot the puck I’m not hating on the kid but like with prospects like nazar and Hayes, Savy and Dach , lardis and whoever they draft in the next will all be hear I don’t think Reichel stays more than 2 more

    • @MisterCaution
      @MisterCaution Před 5 měsíci

      @@gianmarcofidanza7173 Reichel has rarely played with Bedard for full games, and certainly not on a consistent basis to form a connection. He’s clearly going through a mental funk that he needs to play through with consistent minutes, more ice time, and better linemates.
      Grass is always greener. You named 4 prospects, but there is no telling if any of them will be top six players or even better than Reichel. Statistically, only 1 of those you mentioned is going to be an 82-game NHL player for his career. I mean Nazar just centered the 3rd line in his second WJC-not even top 6 for his 2nd WJC-that’s not good! Hayes looks to be a role player if he ever makes it. Dach is not doing better than Reichel did in the AHL, and why even mention Lardis at all?

  • @albertlovshin7791
    @albertlovshin7791 Před 4 měsíci

    Beddard needs to stay in junior till he grows up a bit give him a couple years to develop more ! He looks like a wimp in size to some of the other guys!

  • @JuggaloSupreme
    @JuggaloSupreme Před 5 měsíci

    Why is Chicago so cheap!? Get this kid some help! Kane, Toews, and Keith did not do it alone OMG

  • @ChrisTedoni
    @ChrisTedoni Před 5 měsíci

    It kills me that the Hawks did what they were supposed to do, bring in support for who the team was banking on. What happens? Everyone gets punched in the testicles. I’m actually starting to worry that they are going to fire the coach as some lunatic show of “shaking things up” and this is just one of those things beyond his control.

    • @Lurch98
      @Lurch98 Před 5 měsíci +2

      LoL, no chance Davidson lets Richardson go. He has a couple years no risk. The team as bad as the roster is has been playing their ass off and keepings games close with teams like Winnipeg, Dallas, and the Oilers. Effort over talent at the moment.

  • @OtterPlaysYT
    @OtterPlaysYT Před 5 měsíci

    If bedard was on the jackets or ducks omg he would pop off

  • @robrick9361
    @robrick9361 Před 5 měsíci +5

    Bedard will hit 70 goals and 170 points when the Hawks get a team around him.

    • @kellismith4329
      @kellismith4329 Před 4 měsíci

      Or when he gets traded elsewhere

    • @kyromellestry2165
      @kyromellestry2165 Před 4 měsíci

      he deserves to be on a better team

    • @ethanparker7900
      @ethanparker7900 Před 4 měsíci

      YESSIRR imagine if he were playing with ovi on the caps or petterson in vancouver or zegras in anaheim@@kyromellestry2165

  • @AustinWestbro
    @AustinWestbro Před 5 měsíci

    What bedard needs is a Kane, or Debrincat, or a Larkin… in other words, your contract is up in 3 years, Bedsy. Come to Detroit; where all the best hawks go when they’re tired of being on a garbage team.

  • @tylerdurden4006
    @tylerdurden4006 Před 5 měsíci

    "Hypothetical" that if he played on his home team he would get more points than the current junior roster he plays on...? That is weird...

  • @h8stupidppl
    @h8stupidppl Před 5 měsíci +1

    Both 69 points... Nice!

  • @kb08
    @kb08 Před 5 měsíci

    How is Mathews on this list and Stamkos or Toews isn't?