Don't be this guy when you go Karting!
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- čas přidán 1. 09. 2023
- In an arrive and drive Karting session you will encounter drivers of different abilities. In this session the POV driver encountered a dirty driver who was driving unfairly and doing dangerous maneuvers. Don't be this guy when you go Karting!
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The POV driver is my friend. He is inexperienced and got bullied on track. He should have been more aggressive! If I was driving, it would be tempting to train wreck after the first incident 😂The 'defending driver' eventually got removed from the session and then black listed from the track! Good riddance 😄
EDIT: Watch my analysis here👇
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What happened next?
Nah bro we throwing hands, find that dude and show him what he deserves on the track. I’ll show him off track
Still, I would have put maneuvered his ass
With all respect .. your friend is so way faster that i'm speachless on how naive he was on ALWAYS setting up for the outer side. Once you "read" your opponent is just a matter to setting upa trap,make him going for inside,exit wider and voilà , you have the speed to overtake him and choose the inner line
The fact that 'we' didn't get the revenge bothers me a whole lot
Big facts woulda rammed him at that point like fine now we both stuck
He'd be deeeeeeeppppppp in the wall if he did that to me. Medical team pullin him out of that barrier.
Same
@juliooliveira1672 i would straight tboned his ass on the inside of a corner apex...
He would of seen me 3 times doing a 360. What a Dirty driver
My brakes would have mysteriously stopped working if I raced this guy.
One way ticket on the Shadow Realm Express direct to Barry R
Hello Super_GT, viewer here
He would have been my brakes, every corner.
Same😂
He would've had a free ticket to a Michael Jackson concert
I'm gonna be honest, I'd have lost my lid and punted him off circuit after about 3 of those bumps, I'm a fairly experienced karter and even though it's wrong I'd still do it. Your friend has the patience of a saint.
I'm afraid of what I would do to him when we got out of the carts.
@@rik331 possible life sentence waiting if it was me
@@rik331 he would need to avoid me instead of trying to hit me, because god only knows what will remain of his face
Exactly, long straight and into rear quarter under braking will teach a lesson. Idiots understand the whip unfortunately.
Come to say exactly this!!
Done a lot of karting, and the best way to deal with these is to get on the rear bumper, pretty much touching, then use them as your brakes in the next turn and send them straight on😂
^ This!
Bingo. 👌
only way but then you hit him from the back and he can just stand on his brakes before corners and you both not maxing speeds. bang him hard side on into the barriers with a smile
Give him back what he deserves. Honestly, some guys are racing hard, but that is Just ridiculous. It’s not racing anymore…
And you’ve got the camera. Show it to the management and his team.
that is sick , i raced with a lot dirty drivers but..... that idiot need to kiss the wall
@@DavidCruz0019ive put lots of em in the wall for doing the same thing to me
Yep spin him out, put him in the wall or something
Some pu**ys can't win hence has to do dishonourable actions. Such a pity
the fact that your friend caught up every time so quickly really shows who the better driver was
0:50 if he was doing that to me I'd reach over and turn his engine off 😂😂😂😅
you cant turn off engine at high rpms
@@alexandermora8746 , not true.
@@alexandermora8746no plug wire no spark,,,,
@@alexandermora8746 so kill switches are just not a thing then
@@alexandermora8746 Why? I need to know why, because I love a good laugh.
This guy is actually giving you an invitation: To meet him outside and handle it.
It's fake
Over go karts lmao
Simple fix in this case. The driver gave him more than enough opportunity to have an actual race. After so long a simple run from behind to push him to deep into a corner would solve this. Constantly allowing yourself to be beside someone who doesn't want to keep this safe affects everyone. Sending him into a corner to have to become well off pace doesn't. It's the lesser of two evils.
Was thinking the exact same thing after that first lap. He'd have been eating daisy's driving like that with me behind him...lol
you have to remember that you have responsibility for damage caused to both vehicle and driver. I'm not THAT eager to race if it means possibly wrecking and having to pay for repairing a kart. what I learned with a similar experience is that it's better to only kart when you have a closed session with friends. it's very hard to gather enough people, but paying to get angry and frustrated with some jack*ss strangers? I'd rather not, thanks
@gustavogoesgomes1863 The method I am speaking of is not to wreck the driver. Simply moving them out of a racing line to have to become off pace. It is up to track officials (if real racing series) to handle this during the race. Here, they obviously didn't care until after. Intentionally wrecking isn't something I ever recommend because it breeds bad techniques that can only lead to serious injury down the line. Moving people, as I stated, a lesser of two evils should still be a last resort. When we are clearly faster, we need to also be smarter about the lines we take.
@@offdabeatz what I wanted to say is that unless you somehow manage to overtake them in a straight and get so far ahead that they can't reach you even in a tight turn, they will "attack" you. even taking a lot of care and looking around me at all times I've got tagged and pushed off track, and I'm sure it would be even worse if I wasn't avoiding them. there was at least three occasions where I was far ahead and I had to open my steering mid corner because the driver behind me was literally coming straight for me. the worst part is that even so, I managed to outrun the bully eventually... wich led me to be stuck behind the next ones. yes, on plural. you don't know how insane things were. I was literally afraid to be near them, and they blocked the track ahead almost all the time. I didn't know how awful a race can be until this day lol
Agreed. Kept waiting for you to bump him out of the way. Also, in the end you were a little aggressive, allowing him to cut back on you.
Best decision: show the video to the track administration and ask for a ban.
I'd be wearing an orange jumpsuit after that race.
To be honest, his behavior was trying to “kill” you. Especially at the end which almost knocked you to a direct hit to the white tires.
What a coward
Yeah big chances of death at this high rate of knots 🙄
@@robertgreenwood6940 death? probably a slight chance but. disfiguring yourself over a fucking rental cart? breaking a bone because some idiot kid has parents that never spanked him? nah man that kid is going to have the damage not me.
Yeah not even with quotes, that was attempted murder
Patience level 1000. I was fuming just watching this 😂
Your way to polite. I'd have been kicked out for planting him in tires!
It is worth gold that you added Kimi's radio messages and sometimes this driving remembers me to Jeddah, imagining 2021 Toto smashin his headphone and stewards busy with investigating everything what happened between the title contenders.
I’m glad he kept his cool. If I was in that situation, that guy would be in a morgue by the end of the race
Imagine this happened to Max Verstappen 😂😂
Bit harsh mate... lol
Absolute keyboard warrior bollox 😂obviously never been racing.
Ok hard
@@joski9030 the fact that you couldnt tell that was a joke fucking concerns me
What you do in this situation is go side by side a couple times and let him feel like a champ for pushing you wide, and then the next time you line up, right before he turns into you, just suddenly slow down and watch him confidently go off the track. 😂
Straight from days of thunder ?
Mate, just flip him out already. You're an enabler
I've only ridden an indoor kart once and it's clear that any collision and/or bad crash has the potential to cause serious injuries to drivers, especially their spines. This guy should be banned from driving on this track for the rest of his life because of this behavior, I hope he was given exemplary punishment. My compliments to you for handling the situation maturely, like a real man; different from this cowardly guy throwing his kart at others at every turn! I wonder what goes on in the head of someone like that, there are people who leave the house with the sole aim of causing fights. Inexplicable.
honestly his dirty driving wasnt the worst part of this it was the fact that he didnt punt him off and get revenge
You have more patience than me. I would have taken him out, pulled him out of the kart and threw him over the tyres. The best thing to do would just to pull over to be honest. I’d love to get a chance to confront someone - have them watch and explain why they are such a douche.
that's a broken jaw for the driver that's `defending`
That was fun to watch & hilarious, other guy was playing with u but was actually a really smooth driver, shame he got kicked out according to the read up
I very rarely post comments, but this video is worthy of the attention. All praise to you for not resorting to a dirty move in frustration! I don’t think the other racer understands the concept of good racing and sportsmanship. You’ve certainly been the bigger person by not reacting to it. It’s easy for other people to comment what you should’ve done to make the pass stick, but honestly the point is you remained in control of your actions and tried where you could to make a clean pass. All credit to you mate!
😂 indeed
A big push coming into a corner would have settled that boy's attitude right away.
Some people need to learn the hard way.
Well, being "the bigger person" only goes so far. And that ain't much far. When your opponent is playing dirty, it takes courage to stand up for yourself. After 2 or 3 dirty maneuvers, i _definitely_ would have stopped playing nice and would have given him a dose of his own medicine and see how he liked it.
exactly
Props to you for still trying to be clean while overtaking, even after a dozen dangerous maneuvers by him. You're a better man than me! I'd have retaliated.
Some may think of it as being "better" but, sticking up for yourself isn't a bad thing. It is actually a good thing. It is essential to survival in rhe real world. I too would have retaliated!
I'd have retaliated off track by ending my session before him, reporting him to staff, and probably waiting for him in the parking lot to determine if he would like to explain why he was ruining my session and if he'd like to try bullying off-track. That was dangerous behavior and he was endangering the POV driver safely.
I think his patience in dealing with this has made him a better driver for it. Dealing with this kind of thing tends to do that. I used to cart race. Timed laps only though, not allowed to be in traffic, But I was in the 48 second club for many years which allowed me to graduate to the 98KUPD sponsored cart. At 57, I am loving this concept of cart racing and may actually look further into it. It's actually pretty exciting to watch. I can only imagine the rush of participating.
Looks like a lot of fun.
Was calculating the best tactic for a clean pass.
I think it's time I get back to race simulators ; haven't played since 2013.
You are too passive… 😂 USE THEM BUMPERS!! And give him a taste of his own medicine!
He seems out to get you. It seems personal cz he let others pass. Are you sure you don't owe him money 😂😂😂
If I encounter someone doing this to me karting I give them the rule of three. Meaning you have three times to drive dirty against me. After your third offense you'll be introduced to my very good friend: Barry R
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He would have ended up with a broken jaw after the race!!!
I thought this kind of bully racer only exists in video game, but here i am seeing it in real life
What a complete POS. Full kudos to your friend for keeping calm, I know the guy would be in the wall if it was me. Also I can’t quite believe there was over 3 minutes of this with no action from the marshals…
Agreed - they should have black flagged him as soon as he started doing that. There's ABC and there's trying to do someone serious injury.
The best way of dealing with drivers like this is a tiny tap on the rear bumper in a fast corner or gentle braking zone. Just enough to put them off line, but not enough to get real notice from the marshals. Happened a lot when I was karting!
Exactly. I did this several times. Always got around them
Marshalls? I don't think we have to worry about them in this case. Given how they just let the idiot in the video continue to race like that
Q@@nfsking27they will try and plow you if they race dirty wait till further towards the end so your not having to protect yourself to long after
Don't think he needs to worry about the marshals here, the other guy would've been black flagged 10 times over
@@Solart28 Yeah, gotta think there were no mashals!
The guy with the camera tries to the outside of the curves, so he will never manage to overtake, his mind is locked on the other guy
Bro well done for not taking him out and getting in trouble but if I was you he is getting sent to the shadow realm
What I do in such siutations, is slow down so it takes more laps cathing up with him again.
If he keeps on doing it, one should just go back to the pits and tell the staff that either they black flag/ban the guy or give your money back if they aren't willing to enforce the rules.
He may be an a-hole, but it's the staff's fault that he's allowed to do this.
Good call - they were both going slower because of the battle. Could have had plenty of time to pit and get the marshals to do their fuckin job, then gone out and caught back up to where you'd be if still in that battle. And if the marshalls didn't care, get your money back and leave before you end up doing something arrestable 😅
I'm absolutely amazed he didn't get black flagged while racing, where's the marshals exactly? After the 2nd/3rd instance he should have had a black and white flag. This is absolutely awful marshalling even if he did get banned in the end it should have never got to that stage.
Where were the marshalls? That lad was just completely deliberate in running the cam driver off the track.
It's a dick move, but if the marshalls allow it, it's allowed. So I would just stop whining and do the same to him: Take the inside line and force him off the track.
@@AudunWangeni agree with doing the same to him but it isnt allowed. Hence why he was banned
It reminded me of the battle between Max and Lewis, when Max tried in every possible way to push Lewis out from the track, like in Brazil
Wouldnt be surprised to see him driving for Red Bull in a few years. He's obviously been training in their star drivers programme tactics, got some classic early Vettel and current Verstappen moves there.
He does it 2 or 3 times I'm punting him to the shadow realm.
You are way too nice of a driver. I would have spun him out after his 3rd attempt to push me out of a corner.
Brother you kept your cool longer than I would have. He’d of received full beast mode in the pits for that behaviour.
There were many opportunities to go down the inside or maybe braking early and going for the switchback
This was so infuriating to watch, I’m not exactly the cleanest driver in go karts, I cut some corners and am pretty cheeky when it comes to overtaking especially as other people feel they need to slow down a lot more than they need to, to take corners but at this point this guy was just being a prick. Honestly what I would have done is pit manoeuvred him and if it takes us both out of the race I will take that. Even if I was banned from the track I would take that too, and just try to appeal it afterwards if I really enjoyed the Track with the footage you had. Sorry to see your fun be ruined by some self righteous troll jackass. You gotta understand man children like this most likely didn’t get enough attention as a kid so it’s hard for them to admit when someone is truly better than them at something…Was hard to watch as you’re racing lines were very clean throughout the race and I’m sure you would have made a wonderful track time, sucks to see but onto the next!! 👊🏼👊🏼
Why pit him when a good solid push from behind coming into a corner would get rid of him easy peasy!!
@@stevet5379 I hear you but the op was just trying to get some clean laps and so that mf deserved to be pitted hahah
@@JustinLT212 Oh i'm in agreement, it's just the application of said "bump" that I'm looking at. A nice push deep into the next corner would leave him stranded on the turf... a nice place to be for a prick of a driver..lol
I would just put myself in position for him to do his dick move would cause him to PIT himself, ir at least spin enough to get away from the troll
I face the same thing. Success attracts haters but the player's gonna play 😅
He keeps sweeping you even though you're on the outside. Brake a little earlier, that way if he does try to sweep you off your line, his rear quarter will catch your front making him spin!
Exactly
100%
as someone who is extremely good with driving, and also very smart (i watch rick & morty), i will SAY that "i don't understand" but that is just an expression.
"i don't understand why people take go-karting so seriously, none of you know how to drive and accidents happen. that's the point of karts, it's why your not in a racecar, just learn and have fun. don't be a paintball warrior out there just because a noob made mistakes driving a TOY."
Every time I go karting there’s usually that one guy. Right until someone shoves him into a wall then he cries to the staff. Always fun to watch lol
You get one "mistake", after that you're free to fire the blue turtle shell and wreck him. Also you're free to beat the piss out of him after the race.
'Okay he push me of the track he has to leave the space ALL THE TIME YOU HAVE TO LEAVE THE SPACE!'
You have WAY more patience than I do. After four laps of dealing with a driver like this in basically every turn, I lost it. In a tight right-hander, I HAD TO use my "buddy" to keep me from running off the track (understeer...y'know?). No way I would have stayed on the track without him there. He - of course - DID go into the grass (no damage or injuries). Crossing the start/finish line, I had a rolled up black flag pointed at me as a warning, but that was the extent of my punishment. I waved to the marshal and nodded my head, feeling completely justified. I'll never understand why the marshals didn't show that joker the passing flag.
I would've blacklisted myself at this point. There's no way this guy would be leaving the track without a proper beating.
3:08 Damn, he almost killed you. Luckily you can avoided the collision. Great reaction, mate.
I woulda hopped out of my kart and dove on him, props to your friend for staying patient
Man.. after the 3rd time… he would have been “dumped”. Your a better person than I
Stop trying to pass people on the outside, it’s simple physics my friend. Give him what he deserves from the inside!
Your friend has a lot of patience. I never been karting, but I've seen a bunch of videos. There are some guys that are overly aggressive, dive bomb in turns with no consideration for other drivers....and then there was this guy. This guy was flat out moving into the POV driver's lane, pushing him off the track, intentionally trying to put him into the tires and wall. Once, maybe twice I would be mad and forgive. This guy must have done it 20 times in a 3 minute video. How did none of the track staff see this guy's outright dirty, unsafe driving? After the 3rd or 4th time, I would have spun the guy out and tackled his ass to the ground.
Go karts are entry level to open wheel race cars. In open wheel racing it represents a gentleman’s sport. There exists in every drivers mental picture an imaginable margin around the opponents car that must be respected, otherwise damage and destruction will occur. This leaves the competition to be about ability and smooth control, and respect, not bullying as in the videos example. The driver featured in this video sees it a smash up derby.
EASY fix for this problem, first thing you do is wait for him to get out of his kart, then, you use your helmet as a hammer and swing it into his face several times until he stops twitching.
The fact he bumped you as well is not acceptable I would have fought him after the session finished
1) It was necessary to drive along the internal trajectory and displace the opponent (did not cross the trajectory when overtaking)
2)Such drivers are easy to punish. You need to fit tightly behind you, body to body. He starts to brake into the turn, you accelerate and only brake a little later. As a result, your opponent goes into the bump stop.
Bro was looking back more than he was forward.
2:28 what a dirty move! I would have t-boned him in the next corner!
I agree, should have given him a dose back!
Should have pit manoeuvered him right by the tire barrier for extra points
As soon as he try’s to turn into you, brake then hit the apex in the corner. Works every time even when racing and trying to get around someone
Mate I was on the edge of my seat ffs. What a cool bit of driving.
It seems like he's using the strategy of occupie the inside line in every turn so he can push you out and gain that advantage. Try to run into that inside line so you perform a dive bomb. If you wanna give him what he deserves, a great torpedo will be good (he started this at first)
Thats not a dirty driver. Thats a psychopathic driver. "Our driver unfortunately failed to prepare the overtaking maneuver better. There was a corner where he could have overtaken him despite that, but he always went to the inside before, only to have to go to the outside and be at a disadvantage. There he would have had to do it the other way around, damn
Glad you got him filmed. Bet he dont get to race next race.
I love how he finally gets past him and he get passed right back
That kind of behaviour would get him pitted into the outside wall if I was driving lol
Next time, briefly slam the brakes when he pushes you off the track. He will eliminate himself because it becomes a PIT maneuvre. The last thing you see of him is when he crosses in front of you while you turn him around. Another way is to use him as a brake, like suggested in other comments. Preferrably on one of his corners.
That guy would get his head caved in at the end of that race
0:50 if i was the pov guy i'd swerve into his kart to spin, your friend is crazy patient i would've lost it right there
the driver is way more level headed than i would of been if it was me that guys in a wall
Why not bump him under braking so he whashes out wide and you are free to go. I go to 6h endurance and have seen the nudge often when someone is trying overly agreasive to defend. But also, never have I seen such an idiot. He runs you wide each time you are beside him.
Honestly this made me laugh watching him toy with you.
If I was in that kart, after we got out I would be so raged.. but if I was there with one my friend who also kinda likes go-karts, we would be furious 💀
1:09 was like max vs Lewis in Brazil 2021. 😂
Watching this really annoyed me. I would have pushed him off the apex into the tyres after the second incident. Why anyone would tolerate this behaviour is beyond me.
Your friend sure has a lot of patience
what a ridiculous moment! you could push him into corner!
Looks like overtaking the bully was pointless because he couldn’t even stay ahead of him for 2 seconds
In this cases the “eye for an eye” approach is the best
But then the little ones always cry afterwards and have to run to daddy...
Jeez you took it so nicely. If he would have done that to me his ass would have been in the wall
Hah😂this would turn me into a fast furious character real fast if he did this to me
My thoughts are you kept choosing the outside line so he forced you wide. Sometimes way too much as he didn’t give you enough room and purposely pushing you off track as well as himself. Glad he got removed and black listed but there were opportunities to pass that you didn’t take.
I think he was targeting the POV driver. He had no problem with other people passing him. He was clearly looking back to ensure he was setup to always have the inside line from the other driver. A better driver could have easily faked him out and got by with sustained momentum, but the POV driver hadn't reached that skill level yet.
The guys an a-hole but you kept yielding him space by going wider as he squeezed you on the outside even on the straights. You should have held position which would have forced him into an uncomfortable tighter line going into the next corners and then you could have easily completed your switch backs, overtaking him completely on exits. Seems to me though that this wasn't on your radar because you were too focused on him (though somewhat understandably because he was being as a-hole). Problem was vision in this case. Just as you should be looking at where you want to go and not where you don't want to go when driving around on your own, the same is true with combatants on the track. Focus on them and you detract from your brain seeing the bigger picture of how to get around a-hole obstacles which is all another driver on the track is.....not the a-hole bit (necessarily) but an obstacle to be gotten around (just like corners) with your peripheral vision and your main vision focused much further ahead of where you're at. This was fundamentally a problem of sub-optimal vision here as you are clearly the much faster driver than the obstacle was.
I agree. The POV driver was my friend. He should have been more aggressive! If I was driving, I would have train wrecked after the first incident 😂
@@kartingtipsno need for a train wreck. The front driver is very easy to predict in his behaviour. With his superior speed he should have take the inside line way earlier
@s4cells4cell7 agree wrecking people because of this breeds poor technique. Karting may not bring severe injury, but as you progress, that mentality will in later racing classes.
@s4cells4cell7 If it was me I would bump him on one of the braking zones
This is why if I race karts I need to race karts that have enough power to overcome the limits of the tires. This way driving skill actually comes into play.
These karts are simply too slow to make driving skill a major factor when you have someone behaving like this. And if the marshals see you tailgate and push the driver you are viewed as the overly aggressive party because you would have spun the other driver out.
The marshals should have been on the lookout for this type of behavior, however we can guess that the marshals in this case are likely Teenagers who have no interest in stopping this passive aggressive behavior.
Great défense😂 Do you have the 06 of this driver?
That's pretty dirty.....clearly the POV driver had the faster kart but I woulda lost my shit had he yanked his wheel like that and nudged me off the track. Another thing people aren't talking about is the POV driver always picking the wrong time to overtake that guy. Don't try to pass on the right knowing a left hand turn is coming up and vise versa. Gotta be thinking a few turns ahead that way you can pass on the inside turn and then flick his ass off the track and return the favor.😅
I am a very experienced karter. 10 yrs club racing and that guy wouldn't have bothered me because I would have been past him and long gone. However if Id been run wide like that by someone there is a way past them. Instead of trying to go either side of them just stay behind them for the hairpin or slow corner and when they brake just keep your foot in and punt them into the barriers . You kind of set yourself up to be honest trying to go round the outside.
There's a point where you just need to move them out of the way and that point happened 30 seconds into the video.
Hi, may I ask where this outdoor Gokart is located?
he believes he’s max verstappen 💀
that happened to me last time I went karting, I'm not so kind hearted to these people, I made sure he went front first into the barrier.
That would be a easy black flag . If not the final they also done for the day . As a track Marshall I won't put up with that kind of driving . As a racer it took 13 years to get 1st ever contact penalty . The guy was poised and don't blame him . Had a chat we explained what was going on .
Then asked would he have done what I did ?
Of course I would have 😅
Have had a front row seat for all sorts of chaos ! Seeing a kart do cartwheels is interesting 🤯 It ended up upside down balanced steering wheel to steering wheel of another kart . Have flown a kart and not bad until gravity takes over !
These videos INFURIATE me!
The agro forcing off track is analogous to a boxer kneeing their opponent in the groin.
Good discipline on you staying focused and trying to make a move stick. If you kept it tidy at 3:05, you would have got it done, but unfortunately you ran wide. Super unlucky after getting ran off the track for 5 straight minutes. I'm honestly surprised he didn't get black flagged for how ridiculous some of his moves were
Dude, at 3:05 the guy was ramming into his rear and then side, he didn't just run wide.
@@BRY4NFPS looked to me like he missed the apex because he carried too much speed on the entry, thus causing him to run wide. Although I do see a jolt on the camera mid-corner, maybe that's contact from behin? It's hard to tell if or when he actually got hit. From what I saw, he was desperate to stay ahead, causing him to get greedy and carry too much speed on the entry.
Isso me aconteceu nas primeiras provas que competi no kart, mas foi fácil me livrar, o cara que estava me fechando e pondo pra pista, eu vim pelo lado de fora e fingi que ia ultrapassar por fora entrando na curva, quando eu vi ele dando o golpe no volante pra me pôr pra fora, eu freei e fiz a curva por dentro, foi lindo ver ele passando direto todo nervoso tentando corrigir o carro, pq se eu estivesse ao lado dele, eu seria a parede pra ele não sair da pista, como não tinha nada, ele passou reto. Inclusive depois ele foi excluído da prova.
kkkk faria o msm, achei o cara do vídeo até um pouco inocente em deixar ele bater toda hr