@@K.C-2049 Bearing children isn’t traumatizing unless there are major complications.. most women say it’s the most rewarding experience of their lives and they choose to do it over and over again.. being a POW is traumatizing.. burying your child is traumatizing.. lets not get crazy here
He's wrong about not remembering. Babies don't have depth perception, the brain hasn't figured out how to work out depth perception from two separate images (eyes). It's why babies constantly shove things in their mouth, it tells them exactly how big something is. The brain automatically deletes those memories as it would be confusing as hell remembering what vision without depth perception looks like.
This sums him up perfectly; things that on the face of it sound deep and inspirational, but to someone with genuine intelligence, all the intellect and depth of a parking lot puddle.
@@breeeegs his point stands on ignorance in an attempt to be deep and profound. All it takes is the most cursory glance at the stages of brain development to see this is all BS.
Bruh, babies are literally no better than animals at first. Of course you don't remember any of that, you didn't even know thinking was a concept!!!! You didn't know breathing, eating, pooping, and overall staring at anything was a "something". There is no trauma because there is no" you" to take in and process this information ffs. The part that makes you "you" comes after all that as the brain begins to develop and retain information. It's the only thing that separates us from animals. The conscious that creates "us". We're just brains floating in a vat operating a meat suit, and when the brain goes, we go with it.
The guy was being serious. Even his fellow podcasters saw it as a serious remark....or did you not see the way the blonde in the video and almost every other comment besides mine sees it as a serious statement on his part. I acknowledge he is an amazing voice artist. But I have a problem with people saying stupid things as though they were deep insights. And he does mean it man.
@@arthurmorgan6703 yes because no one has made a joke about saying something stupid but making it sound philosophical that and he says it’s a joke in the podcast
I dont agree with what he said but after experiencing a traumatic event, there is a possibility your brain just kinda forgets it just so you dont have to remember it, for your own sake
Snarky comments like this misinterpreting others are so common on the internet. Jesus. He said it's the most traumatic thing that happens to people in general, not him specifically. *It's just a theory.* He's not saying that nothing bad has ever happened in his life so he has to go back to childbirth to find something. lol. And he might be right. When you're born, water is squeezed out of your poor lungs. Might be painful, at the very least it must be highly unpleasant. It's the first time you have to breathe for yourself, coughing up mucus. You're exposed to the cold for the first time and blinding light (could be like having painful sensory issues as an adult). And all of this is happening at once. Disorienting and likely painful. All things are relative. Something that's seemingly mundane can inspire wonder in children. You can't map an adult's understanding of the world and what it would take to traumatise them to a baby. "You're soft!"
True. Have autism and started with a lot of social skill issues. Not a problem anymore thanks to my parents working their butts of for me. They tell me and my brother every day that we were the best thing to ever happen to them and I will be forever grateful for them putting me on this world and making me into the person I am today
@@lightningmonky7674 Is that all humans? Or just the west? Do the primitive tribes still around on Earth deserve your socialism? Or would you force them to? To believe that the world needs what you believe in is farcical. Read about human history for a while, then come back and tell us that Socialism will save the world.
I love Troy but I beg to differ with his point. My best friend has aggressive brain cancer and is staring her mortality in the face at 27 years old. Not only is this likely the most traumatic thing she has dealt with or ever will deal with, the fact that she survived birth means nothing in terms of her ability to overcome this hurdle. Being born is a miraculous thing of course, but theres sadly far more horrible things a human life can go through.
Why are people like you incapable of understanding the message behind a story? Your friend is lucky to have made it to 27. You don't even realize that's a privilege in itself. The unspeakable horrors in this world and you think cancer is so scary? Lol
Yeah his little speech completely falls apart when you put down the bong and actually think about what he’s saying for more than two seconds. I can’t imagine how I’d feel if I was in your friends shoes and some dollar store philosopher said this to me.
@@hamzaahmad129 I actually still like Troy. I don't think he's a bad guy or anything, but he was on Alanah Pearce's Play Watch Listen podcast for a few years, and he routinely tried to be very philosophical based on fairly obvious observations throughout the three years he was on it. He def has that vibe to him.
You completely missed his point. He's saying that you can get through any trauma because everyone went thru the most traumatic point in their life at birth and as far as we can tell it didn't affect anyone. He's completely wrong, of course.
If being born was the most traumatic thing to happen to you in your life , you've had a very blessed life. The trauma of that is insignificant compared to the things people can go through in life.
Agreed. I’m guessing this guy never fought in a war. Or experienced SA. Or a dozen other things that cause PTSD and are by that definition worse than birth.
@@STRANGEANATOMYBANDI think the think Troy is referring to here is more the fact that a baby isn’t able to process or understand anything. Whilst a grown person can deal with those issues, we can deal with those traumas, and we absolutely can overcome them and become bigger than the tragedies that define us. His point is that having the confidence of overcoming something that is unimaginably uncomfortable, confusing, and different (birth) is something people should carry with them throughout their lives. That kinda mindset is exactly what saves people who have suffered trauma.
@@shahum2248 if it can't process or understand anything then it doesn't even understand what is happening, so how would it be traumatic? He has a nice point but anyone with a brain can see it doesn't make sense and therefore don't take away the positive message here.
You have the luxury of saying that because people just can’t remember the process of being birthed into the world. If you could have a vivid memory of being pushed through the birth canal and entering a brand new world, I’m sure you’d list it as incredibly traumatic. I don’t understand why people make a big deal over this.
Or just what is intended to be an inspirational thought for people. Basically saying that you are capable of anything if you survived that. There's being cynical and then there's being you. Stop it.
These are the conversations stoners have on a regular basis man. That's why a lot of people that smoke seem to appreciate life on a diff level then most. Most stoners can walk out into the woods with a blunt just chilling and staring at the trees and have the best time we have ever had in life. THC and a few other natural substances seem to make you view life an entirely different way which sparks convos like this.
im high as fuck right now and his words simply brought a tear to my eye. and i value my parents, my mother more so in these terms. because she was a part of that world for me, then her world changed the same way mine did.
Yeahhhh sounds deep and all, but like.....no? Not really. Our brains are surely not developed anywhere near enough to have that level of conciousness of our situation. We can't even remember when we were 2 years old. There is no way being born would have a lasting effect on us psychologically.
@@Ashbrash1998 even a baby Giraffe can understand that a big scary looking thing moving quickly is a threat. Babies understanding "body language" has nothing to do with this conversation. To steer it back on point, babies don't have enough of a developed brain to create memories.
The beginning of this absurd meandering was already more than enough to solidify the fact that Troy Baker is actually objectively stupid, but the fact the he said "you THINK you remember it." as if fucking newborn babies have sufficient brain development for long term memory and instead we just "suppressed" this moment along with 2 - 4 additional years (I guess for good measure?) despite suppression already being debunked as pseudo-psych garbage only practiced by industry predators and idiots was the icing on the cake. What a fucking moron.
I don’t think he means this literally. It is more of a mindset, than a literal concept he is trying to convey. The fact that you survived something so drastically confusing scary and different as a literal baby who has no emotional intelligence no help no foundation of ideas to stand on, that is powerful. It’s the kind of mindset that saves people from trauma since they are able to overcome the tragedies that define them.
Not trying to be mean but if I made a video of me holding up a banana and stating it contains the secrets to life and two onlookers went “Ooh” and “Ahh” it would have the same energy as this video. 😂
That’s not entirely true. You don’t remember the first few years of your life because your brain simply isn’t developed enough to store memory at that point.
False, you wouldn't know how to walk and talk and any of the other skills your parents taught you during infancy if you couldn't store memories, just because you can't recall the specific time you first walked doesn't mean that memory isn't saved, it's just such a natural, frequent action that it becomes automated and doesn't need memory recall for you to remember how to do it.
Exactly. "If you can survive this, you can survive anything" is so overdone and annoying to hear. Try telling that to a child who was repeatedly raped by her own father for years feeling helpless and alone. Trauma is trauma. Its not something you can just move on from or "change your mindset" about like some cheap advice you hear from motivational videos. Healing takes alot of effort, selfcare and treatment. Its not a fucking switch you can turn on after reading a quote from an out of touch privelged ass wipe on youtube.
@@Mediados my aunty just got told where does she want to die by the cancer nurse, so you think I should tell her she could survive anything if she believes?
Lmao he's actually the voice of Yamato in the games at least (haven't watched the show). I think Matthew Mercer also did some Yamato, which has a very similar tone
Point of clarification. I know Troy Baker voiced both characters. What I meant is that his base voice or normal speaking voice sounds like a mix of the 2.
Don't they though? They get through whatever horrible experience they go through, don't they? It's basically like, the body makes it so you can get through whatever you need to get through.
I saw him in Austin. His talk was called "What I've Learned So Far", and he told me "You are enough". At that moment, my marriage was over, I was coming out of an extremely toxic relationship (both she and I had a lot of learning to do) and trying to figure out how to be single after being told that my only job (according to God, said my parents) was to be a good husband and father. His encouragement helped me start learning to love myself. I'm extremely grateful for his belief that we're all lovable, loving and Loved.
Think of it this way. Every single person you know and will ever meet survived that "traumatic" experience. Can't say the same about car crashes, illnesses, assaults, etc.
This is the friend that explains the most fundamental, basic human concepts as if they were the first person in the world to realize that "LikE bRo, wHeN yOu gO tO sLeEp aNd dReAm yOu'Re aCtUaLLy viSiTing aLtErNate uNiVeRsEs bROo", or 'dUUUUde, iSn'T iT cRaZy hOw tHe oNLy TiMe oUr HEarTs sToP beAtiNg iS wHeN wE DiE??"
@Akuma.69 He actually dies because that performance is mid, and there are several instances in which he slips up and reverts to his normal voice for a few words.
Troy is totally wrong on this one. We don't have enough memory forming brain cells at birth. That's why we don't remember it. Nothing to do with trauma
"Typically why we believe we don't remember it. "...? Huh? Yeah, it has nothing to do with the hippocampus not starting to be evolved to comprehend and store memories until you're 2-4 years old, but it's in fact... ✨️TRAUMA✨️ GEEZ..
You dont remember that because your brain isnt developed enough to have memory at birth. This is probably the dumbest conversation I have ever heard in my life.
Yep. Because we, like all those in the womb, were humans in the womb. It is life in the womb. It is not just some "clump of cells" like a tumor. That is a baby in the womb.
@@ktgame2640no its just nonsense. Hes a pseudo intellectual. This is what everyone calls stoner talk cause its cringe and corny at best lol. You must have a 7th grade brain if you find this deep.
And disturbingly back then until as recently as the 1980s they use to operate on babies without giving them anesthesia or any sort of pain medication. They thought babies couldn’t feel pain thinking their nervous systems were undeveloped & therefore couldn’t feel pain. So for years, even as life-saving surgeries became more invasive, longer & more intense, the majority of newborns still underwent them without anesthetic or anything for the pain. Often, babies were given nothing more than just a muscle relaxant to keep them from thrashing around during the operation but were still able to feel everything “The belief was the result of years of inadequate studies, many of which suffered from the fact that clinicians struggled to understand the differences in pain responses between fetuses and adults & this misunderstanding carried over to newborns. This was compounded by the fact that studies in the 1940s had incorrectly stated that babies lacked the capability to feel pain after they seemed to be unresponsive to pinpricks. This was later explained by a failure to correctly interpret infant body language. But that wasn't the only reason painkillers were withheld from babies. Physicians also had concerns about the safety of such medical interventions, fearing that giving strong anesthetics to infants may kill them, especially those that were seriously ill. Though many hospitals had begun administering anesthesia to infants on the operating table as early as the 1970s, surveys of medical professionals conducted as recently as 1986 indicated that infants younger than 15 months were still receiving no pain relief during surgery in many hospitals across the U.S It was in 1987 that the tide against this practice began to change and the medical profession started to listen to mothers who insisted their infants could indeed feel pain. In that year, a study concerning the testing of fentanyl on infants undergoing surgery showed that the opioid, which is similar to morphine, reduced the stress response in babies undergoing surgery. It was also in 1987 that the American Academy of Pediatrics formally declared that it was unethical to continue to operate on infants without the use of anesthetics. The statement was jointly approved by the American Society of Anesthesiologists claiming there was "an increasing body of evidence" that newborns demonstrated negative responses to surgery that could be relieved by painkillers.”
These people have no idea what they are talking about. I lost both of my sons two years ago. I have been to war, I have been horribly injured, I have experienced many things. Nothing will ever compare.
Someone who thinks this hasn't experienced gut wrenching ongoing trauma and suffering. I had years of terrible illness where I was literally dying and doctors were absolutely stumped. I had to help myself and I was still a kid! I was in agony and pain every day, struggling to breathe, everything burned. This guy is extremely fortunate.
This idea was proposed by Otto Rank in 1924. It was later discredited and Otto Rank was expelled from the psychoanalytical community, and for good reason. It also caused a lot of deaths and harm to mothers and children due to unnecessary caesarean sections.
I believe it was more traumatic for my mother… lmao We don’t remember anything as a fetus/newborn because we don’t have enough brain cells to form memories yet, not because it was traumatizing.
"The rats eat the eyes of the children's corpses first because, during these famines, they contain the most moisture." - Yeonmi Park Please have some better perspective on what people's "most traumatic" is.
Interestingly enough, human birth is one of the most dangerous birthing processes in the animal kingdom. Most animals can do it all by themselves but humans are at significantly higher risk if they do it alone and even still when we have midwives, nurses and doctors, birthing complications and even death for both the mother and the newborn can still happen. So that part is true
If this motivates you to get over a battle you’ve been struggling to get through, then let it. If not, then it doesn’t and I hope and pray you can find the strength and wisdom to overcome whatever you’re facing. If you defend your limitations, they’ll stay there.
I showed my mother this, she said “if anyone was traumatized, it was me.” I had no retort.
lmaoooo right does Troy know what his mom went through in that moment?
@@K.C-2049 Bearing children isn’t traumatizing unless there are major complications.. most women say it’s the most rewarding experience of their lives and they choose to do it over and over again.. being a POW is traumatizing.. burying your child is traumatizing.. lets not get crazy here
@@5634TY what a condescending reply :)
@@K.C-2049 please explain how I was condescending in any way, shape, or form, if you’re able to.. I’ll literally wait
@@5634TY the sheer audacity of telling people how to feel about something as life altering as pregnancy my guy.
Dudes never stepped on a lego and it shows
He has at least one kid so he might have
He’s a dad.
He's wrong about not remembering. Babies don't have depth perception, the brain hasn't figured out how to work out depth perception from two separate images (eyes). It's why babies constantly shove things in their mouth, it tells them exactly how big something is. The brain automatically deletes those memories as it would be confusing as hell remembering what vision without depth perception looks like.
That doesn’t make sense honestly
It's "Dude's", not "Dudes". It is a contraction of "Dude is". Please learn proper grammar before posting trite shit.
Troy Baker talks like he learned English exclusively from motivational quote posters in a corporate managers office.
lol what a comparison!
This sums him up perfectly; things that on the face of it sound deep and inspirational, but to someone with genuine intelligence, all the intellect and depth of a parking lot puddle.
@@nervesconcordyou say that like it’s a bad thing
@@joenash4802To most people, being shallow is pretty bad.
@@DogInatutu well he’s at least not a bad person
We dont remember it due to lack of memory forming brain cells, not because it's traumatic
His point still stands
@@breeeegs not really
@@breeeegs his point stands on ignorance in an attempt to be deep and profound. All it takes is the most cursory glance at the stages of brain development to see this is all BS.
Should be top comment
@@rossallison1835so... Memory loss... That's what you think was the most important point of his argument
You got like a million great characters telling you some deep shit all at once
Best comment
Ocelot please keep the radio channels clear
Lol
Best part is, you can choose your comfort character to validate your trauma, *and it works*.
Hearing Delsin Rowe say this to me is chef's kiss 💋👨🍳
one of them is higgs monaghan 💀
I’ll take “Things that sound profound but really aren’t for 400 Alex”
Omg lol hit the nail right on the head.
I mean, he's not wrong. lol
@@Hydrofobic2001 yeah, and one way or another everyone stops bleeding….
@@Hydrofobic2001in this make believe world if he's not wrong then your Albert Einstein
Bruh, babies are literally no better than animals at first. Of course you don't remember any of that, you didn't even know thinking was a concept!!!! You didn't know breathing, eating, pooping, and overall staring at anything was a "something". There is no trauma because there is no" you" to take in and process this information ffs. The part that makes you "you" comes after all that as the brain begins to develop and retain information. It's the only thing that separates us from animals. The conscious that creates "us". We're just brains floating in a vat operating a meat suit, and when the brain goes, we go with it.
This video is proof that talent and genius should never be conflated. 😂
Meh it’s just a motivational quote lighten up
NO. He is spouting nonsense and I have a right to point that out.
@@arthurmorgan6703just like how I have the right to point out it’s a joke you aren’t supposed to take him seriously
The guy was being serious. Even his fellow podcasters saw it as a serious remark....or did you not see the way the blonde in the video and almost every other comment besides mine sees it as a serious statement on his part. I acknowledge he is an amazing voice artist. But I have a problem with people saying stupid things as though they were deep insights. And he does mean it man.
@@arthurmorgan6703 yes because no one has made a joke about saying something stupid but making it sound philosophical that and he says it’s a joke in the podcast
"The most traumatic thing to ever happen to me is my own birth that i don't remember."
- Man with incredibly soft life
I dont agree with what he said but after experiencing a traumatic event, there is a possibility your brain just kinda forgets it just so you dont have to remember it, for your own sake
Snarky comments like this misinterpreting others are so common on the internet. Jesus.
He said it's the most traumatic thing that happens to people in general, not him specifically. *It's just a theory.* He's not saying that nothing bad has ever happened in his life so he has to go back to childbirth to find something. lol.
And he might be right.
When you're born, water is squeezed out of your poor lungs. Might be painful, at the very least it must be highly unpleasant. It's the first time you have to breathe for yourself, coughing up mucus.
You're exposed to the cold for the first time and blinding light (could be like having painful sensory issues as an adult).
And all of this is happening at once. Disorienting and likely painful.
All things are relative. Something that's seemingly mundane can inspire wonder in children. You can't map an adult's understanding of the world and what it would take to traumatise them to a baby. "You're soft!"
@@idakevrelax?
Some real hater energy in the comments here.
@@FloatingInDisgrace No you
Barb went on a real journey there.
I didn’t even realize that was Barbara
We all did, my friend
Then Barb is equally stupid as all the idiots in the comments who are impressed by a lie.
Yeah she aborts all her kids
Is trying not to laugh lol 😂
You only survived because you had people that cared for you. Community Care is something we can get back to. Everyone deserves care.
True. Have autism and started with a lot of social skill issues. Not a problem anymore thanks to my parents working their butts of for me. They tell me and my brother every day that we were the best thing to ever happen to them and I will be forever grateful for them putting me on this world and making me into the person I am today
@@saraheveraarts7937That’s not what he means, you can survive with autism lol, you can’t survive as a newborn without being fed and sheltered.
@@ohyeahyeah1068 I know that. My having autism is not the main focus of my comment
Agreed, that's why I believe in socialism, humanity needs to have better social situations
@@lightningmonky7674 Is that all humans? Or just the west? Do the primitive tribes still around on Earth deserve your socialism? Or would you force them to? To believe that the world needs what you believe in is farcical. Read about human history for a while, then come back and tell us that Socialism will save the world.
I love Troy but I beg to differ with his point. My best friend has aggressive brain cancer and is staring her mortality in the face at 27 years old. Not only is this likely the most traumatic thing she has dealt with or ever will deal with, the fact that she survived birth means nothing in terms of her ability to overcome this hurdle. Being born is a miraculous thing of course, but theres sadly far more horrible things a human life can go through.
i don’t think traumatic necessarily means negative just something that is profoundly life changing.
Why are people like you incapable of understanding the message behind a story? Your friend is lucky to have made it to 27. You don't even realize that's a privilege in itself. The unspeakable horrors in this world and you think cancer is so scary? Lol
@@bloodaonadeline8346it does mean negative though
Yeah his little speech completely falls apart when you put down the bong and actually think about what he’s saying for more than two seconds. I can’t imagine how I’d feel if I was in your friends shoes and some dollar store philosopher said this to me.
Nah, being born is worse bro.
“ you can survive anything “
Proceeds to jump into lava
RIP
Almost anything
STEELGUARD!!
It doesn't have to make sense!
This belongs on I'm 14 and this is deep
Yep. All of his “profound” messages sound like a regurgitated therapy session.
That's Troy's entire personality basically.
@mikesannitti6042 Is that really true? I mean, he's still at least a legendary voice actor😭
@@hamzaahmad129 I actually still like Troy. I don't think he's a bad guy or anything, but he was on Alanah Pearce's Play Watch Listen podcast for a few years, and he routinely tried to be very philosophical based on fairly obvious observations throughout the three years he was on it. He def has that vibe to him.
Still something I've never even considered, whether he's wrong or right
This is the most “ I’m a victim someway somehow” shit I’ve ever seen
You completely missed his point. He's saying that you can get through any trauma because everyone went thru the most traumatic point in their life at birth and as far as we can tell it didn't affect anyone.
He's completely wrong, of course.
If being born was the most traumatic thing to happen to you in your life , you've had a very blessed life. The trauma of that is insignificant compared to the things people can go through in life.
Agreed. I’m guessing this guy never fought in a war. Or experienced SA. Or a dozen other things that cause PTSD and are by that definition worse than birth.
@@STRANGEANATOMYBANDI think the think Troy is referring to here is more the fact that a baby isn’t able to process or understand anything. Whilst a grown person can deal with those issues, we can deal with those traumas, and we absolutely can overcome them and become bigger than the tragedies that define us. His point is that having the confidence of overcoming something that is unimaginably uncomfortable, confusing, and different (birth) is something people should carry with them throughout their lives. That kinda mindset is exactly what saves people who have suffered trauma.
@@shahum2248 if it can't process or understand anything then it doesn't even understand what is happening, so how would it be traumatic? He has a nice point but anyone with a brain can see it doesn't make sense and therefore don't take away the positive message here.
You have the luxury of saying that because people just can’t remember the process of being birthed into the world. If you could have a vivid memory of being pushed through the birth canal and entering a brand new world, I’m sure you’d list it as incredibly traumatic. I don’t understand why people make a big deal over this.
@@SonicGlitchmaster1 I have the luxury? Mf , I've been through worse things than the " trauma " of being born that I know this is bs.
This is the most sheltered trust fund baby shit I've heard today.
"I have no trauma so i guess being born was the most traumatic thing in my life, and i need therapy"
Like bro damn people are diving for trauma now. Good times really do create hard times man.
Or just what is intended to be an inspirational thought for people. Basically saying that you are capable of anything if you survived that. There's being cynical and then there's being you. Stop it.
@@vicw.1448or just an inspirational thought.
Dude lived in his car when he got to L.A. Not the toughest life, but he's not a trust fund kid
Troy Baker confirmed for being a momma's boy.
Tf
Makes his baki role deeper
Waitttt Troy is Baki I gotta watch Baki now
And that's ok
Everybody is a momma's boy
Idk, I bit into an oatmeal raisin cookie thinking it was chocolate chip once.
I'm 14 and this is deep...
No it not your just 14 so everything seems deep lol
@@dangerousdylan6262 Oh, buddy... He was being sarcastic
@@dangerousdylan6262 it’s a meme 😭
@@dangerousdylan6262 I take it you haven't seen Reddit memes videos
This is why I am glad I don’t get high cause if I listened to Troy Baker while on something Id freaking lose it.
Meanwhile I'm sitting here high af wondering why people listen to this idiot
These are the conversations stoners have on a regular basis man. That's why a lot of people that smoke seem to appreciate life on a diff level then most. Most stoners can walk out into the woods with a blunt just chilling and staring at the trees and have the best time we have ever had in life. THC and a few other natural substances seem to make you view life an entirely different way which sparks convos like this.
im currently stoned and i just squinted for a while and then shook my head and dismissed it lol
im high as fuck right now and his words simply brought a tear to my eye. and i value my parents, my mother more so in these terms. because she was a part of that world for me, then her world changed the same way mine did.
I’m stoned atm and all I’m thinking is “they did you dirty dude….they did you fucking dirty…but atleast you got to voice The Joker one time.”
Yeahhhh sounds deep and all, but like.....no? Not really. Our brains are surely not developed anywhere near enough to have that level of conciousness of our situation. We can't even remember when we were 2 years old. There is no way being born would have a lasting effect on us psychologically.
Subconsciously you can though, studies have shown babies having enough awareness to read body language and to react negatively to it.
@@Ashbrash1998 even a baby Giraffe can understand that a big scary looking thing moving quickly is a threat. Babies understanding "body language" has nothing to do with this conversation. To steer it back on point, babies don't have enough of a developed brain to create memories.
@@Ashbrash1998that is hardly the same thing
The beginning of this absurd meandering was already more than enough to solidify the fact that Troy Baker is actually objectively stupid, but the fact the he said "you THINK you remember it." as if fucking newborn babies have sufficient brain development for long term memory and instead we just "suppressed" this moment along with 2 - 4 additional years (I guess for good measure?) despite suppression already being debunked as pseudo-psych garbage only practiced by industry predators and idiots was the icing on the cake. What a fucking moron.
I don’t think he means this literally. It is more of a mindset, than a literal concept he is trying to convey. The fact that you survived something so drastically confusing scary and different as a literal baby who has no emotional intelligence no help no foundation of ideas to stand on, that is powerful. It’s the kind of mindset that saves people from trauma since they are able to overcome the tragedies that define them.
That is singlehandedly the dumbest thing I have ever heard in my life.
He not wrong.
@@LarryBonsonhe is
And very confusing too
It really is. It's so surface level it's cringey.
@@LarryBonson yes, yes he is.
This guy cries while he paints
Lmfaoooo
Bruh 💀
Damn that's the most innocuous yet most degrading burn I've heard in a long time!
This is the best description of troy baker I have ever seen! It's sums him up perfectly
@@matthewdaubwhy would that be?
barb is questioning everything
Her career choices most notably.
"Why did we invite this guy on to wax shallow philosophical points?"
This is a man who has never experienced a moose in the wild
They must be STOPPED!
Everyone acknowledging mad agreeing that Troy was off his rocker is hilarious 😂
Lmao 😭
Not trying to be mean but if I made a video of me holding up a banana and stating it contains the secrets to life and two onlookers went “Ooh” and “Ahh” it would have the same energy as this video. 😂
It's more like the Hippocampus wasn't developed yet when you were born as to why we don't remember it
That’s not entirely true. You don’t remember the first few years of your life because your brain simply isn’t developed enough to store memory at that point.
Yeah, its weird when people just...make stuff up?
Bingo.
False, you wouldn't know how to walk and talk and any of the other skills your parents taught you during infancy if you couldn't store memories, just because you can't recall the specific time you first walked doesn't mean that memory isn't saved, it's just such a natural, frequent action that it becomes automated and doesn't need memory recall for you to remember how to do it.
@@user-ed1uc9ht2d Short term memory, not long term.
@@user-ed1uc9ht2dmuscle memory is not the same thing as crystallized memory, you're wrong on this one
Sounds like someone who loves the sound of their own voice
No one loves it more than Troy
That's Troy Baker for you.
And the smell of their own farts
Ouch lmfao 💀
Damn, everyone’s been ganging up on him for this lmao
"you can survive anything"
except getting hit with a golf club 🏌️
Troy wasted his freebie survive on being born
@@maggies7572lol
Love it when people just make stuff up to sound deep. 😂
Troy channeling his inner Death Standing. Maybe he wanted to play a good guy all along. His performance as Higgs was top-notch, though.
Baki
Higgs needs an existential line like this.
Why is Joel yapping 💀
Just tapping some random stuff or something
Troy Baker being cast as every character in every video game is the moet traumatic thing in my life
He’s still a good voice actor tho
@@JoseHernandez-rb3gg but he can't really feel or understand these characters
@@stanislavkimov2779how so?
The way he transform himself tho
@@JoseHernandez-rb3gg no
That's one way to say absolutely nothing lmao.
This sounds like the kind of thing a 7th grader would find deep.
Exactly. "If you can survive this, you can survive anything" is so overdone and annoying to hear.
Try telling that to a child who was repeatedly raped by her own father for years feeling helpless and alone. Trauma is trauma. Its not something you can just move on from or "change your mindset" about like some cheap advice you hear from motivational videos.
Healing takes alot of effort, selfcare and treatment. Its not a fucking switch you can turn on after reading a quote from an out of touch privelged ass wipe on youtube.
@@anthonyt219chill out dude it’s not that deep and I bet you wouldn’t say all that to his face anyways
@@anthonyt219Did this happen to you?
@@anthonyt219damn bro it’s not that deep so chill out a bit will you?
@@anthonyt219 might wanna take that down a notch.
My doctor: you have incurable cancer
Troy Baker: you can survive anything!
With cancer psychology is the most important part next to the medical care, so it's actually good advice.
@@Mediados my aunty just got told where does she want to die by the cancer nurse, so you think I should tell her she could survive anything if she believes?
@@craigwolfe249 That's not the point and you know it.
"okay Ocelot, please stop smoking those phantom cigars"
That's one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.
He’s got a great voice to convince people of some bullshit.
Man Troy baker must be on some good shit, because what he’s saying would be classified as insane
The words of someone who's never experienced trauma 😂
Barbara is having an existential crisis.
Very much so lmao
somehow Barb was reliving her own birth 🤣
Our brains were too undeveloped to remember
Imagine him saying this to a burn victim
My eyes saw "bum victim" and I went on a very curious journey in my mind and now I'm gay for life.
I was REALLY confused where we started, but appreciated where we ended.
His base voice sounds like a mix of Yamato and Pain from Naruto. VA icon.
He actually does voice dubbed pain if you weren’t aware
@@stansmith7445and dub Yamato....😅
Lmao he's actually the voice of Yamato in the games at least (haven't watched the show). I think Matthew Mercer also did some Yamato, which has a very similar tone
Point of clarification. I know Troy Baker voiced both characters. What I meant is that his base voice or normal speaking voice sounds like a mix of the 2.
Survive anything? Except all the stuff people don't survive I guess.
Don't they though? They get through whatever horrible experience they go through, don't they? It's basically like, the body makes it so you can get through whatever you need to get through.
@@thesurvivorssanctuary6561
Unless it doesn't
I met Troy Baker at a con and he had a Q&A afterwards and this is just how he talks lmao he gets very philosophical. It was interesting to listen to.
He likes sniffing his own farts
I saw him in Austin. His talk was called "What I've Learned So Far", and he told me "You are enough". At that moment, my marriage was over, I was coming out of an extremely toxic relationship (both she and I had a lot of learning to do) and trying to figure out how to be single after being told that my only job (according to God, said my parents) was to be a good husband and father. His encouragement helped me start learning to love myself. I'm extremely grateful for his belief that we're all lovable, loving and Loved.
@@Peace_And_Love42 i hope life’s been treating you well since then bro
You call this philosophical?
You must not be very well read.
@@tinkywinky4449 I’m sure I’ll never be as smart as you, twinkywinky4449
Think of it this way. Every single person you know and will ever meet survived that "traumatic" experience.
Can't say the same about car crashes, illnesses, assaults, etc.
This is the friend that explains the most fundamental, basic human concepts as if they were the first person in the world to realize that "LikE bRo, wHeN yOu gO tO sLeEp aNd dReAm yOu'Re aCtUaLLy viSiTing aLtErNate uNiVeRsEs bROo", or 'dUUUUde, iSn'T iT cRaZy hOw tHe oNLy TiMe oUr HEarTs sToP beAtiNg iS wHeN wE DiE??"
lol, that is one dumbest things I have ever heard, does he think that was smart?
Closing my eyes, it feels so fucking weird to hear Arkham Origins Joker speaking normally and giving some life advice.
Picture Arkham City Robin when he’s talking. Or Two-Face
Yeah, fair enough. But that’s what I see, personally
This isn't life advice lol What are you talking about blud?
@Akuma.69 He actually dies because that performance is mid, and there are several instances in which he slips up and reverts to his normal voice for a few words.
@@FuckCZcamsAndGooglewhat you talking about?
I feel like I need to quote Eric Forman here, "Oh, by the way, you're not actually bulletproof."
I'm deep and this is 14
Kojima really did something to him...
He must’ve gave him that strong weed from Japan lol
Rhys giving a speech to Vaughn be like
It is such a tremendous responsibility to take care of something so vulnerable and innocent.
Like Troy Baker lol
@@arthurmorgan6703 I actually had no idea who Troy Baker was I’m gonna be real with you
@@nickb1904 The guy in the video saying the reason we don't remember our births is because we were traumatized. That is Troy Baker.
@@arthurmorgan6703 thank you it literally went over my head
@@arthurmorgan6703 how do you mean?
A baby is not part of another person. A baby is a person.
Troy is totally wrong on this one.
We don't have enough memory forming brain cells at birth. That's why we don't remember it.
Nothing to do with trauma
I feel like this is something well off people tell themselves when theyve never actually faced any type of hardship 😂😂😂😂
"Typically why we believe we don't remember it. "...? Huh? Yeah, it has nothing to do with the hippocampus not starting to be evolved to comprehend and store memories until you're 2-4 years old, but it's in fact... ✨️TRAUMA✨️
GEEZ..
Pretty sure it's WAY more traumatizing for the mom.
*The war wet who watched his friend get slowly melted* "no no, hes right."
.... dafuq
The thing I regret learning in life the most is how to breathe.
You dont remember that because your brain isnt developed enough to have memory at birth.
This is probably the dumbest conversation I have ever heard in my life.
Yep. Because we, like all those in the womb, were humans in the womb. It is life in the womb. It is not just some "clump of cells" like a tumor. That is a baby in the womb.
Thats literally all of what people go through all the time, it's not that bad
this is a horribly dumb take
You must not get it then
@@ktgame2640you dont get it, you 80 iq fk
@@ktgame2640no its just nonsense. Hes a pseudo intellectual. This is what everyone calls stoner talk cause its cringe and corny at best lol. You must have a 7th grade brain if you find this deep.
Like you’d know
And disturbingly back then until as recently as the 1980s they use to operate on babies without giving them anesthesia or any sort of pain medication. They thought babies couldn’t feel pain thinking their nervous systems were undeveloped & therefore couldn’t feel pain. So for years, even as life-saving surgeries became more invasive, longer & more intense, the majority of newborns still underwent them without anesthetic or anything for the pain. Often, babies were given nothing more than just a muscle relaxant to keep them from thrashing around during the operation but were still able to feel everything
“The belief was the result of years of inadequate studies, many of which suffered from the fact that clinicians struggled to understand the differences in pain responses between fetuses and adults & this misunderstanding carried over to newborns. This was compounded by the fact that studies in the 1940s had incorrectly stated that babies lacked the capability to feel pain after they seemed to be unresponsive to pinpricks. This was later explained by a failure to correctly interpret infant body language.
But that wasn't the only reason painkillers were withheld from babies. Physicians also had concerns about the safety of such medical interventions, fearing that giving strong anesthetics to infants may kill them, especially those that were seriously ill.
Though many hospitals had begun administering anesthesia to infants on the operating table as early as the 1970s, surveys of medical professionals conducted as recently as 1986 indicated that infants younger than 15 months were still receiving no pain relief during surgery in many hospitals across the U.S
It was in 1987 that the tide against this practice began to change and the medical profession started to listen to mothers who insisted their infants could indeed feel pain. In that year, a study concerning the testing of fentanyl on infants undergoing surgery showed that the opioid, which is similar to morphine, reduced the stress response in babies undergoing surgery.
It was also in 1987 that the American Academy of Pediatrics formally declared that it was unethical to continue to operate on infants without the use of anesthetics. The statement was jointly approved by the American Society of Anesthesiologists claiming there was "an increasing body of evidence" that newborns demonstrated negative responses to surgery that could be relieved by painkillers.”
Wow, that's disturbing, thanks for sharing (like, genuinely, I think remembering disturbing history like that is important)
Dude has never had any real traumatic suffering in his life and it shows.
He's not wrong. You can survive anything... that doesn't kill you. It's the things that do kill you that you have to be worried about.
These people have no idea what they are talking about. I lost both of my sons two years ago. I have been to war, I have been horribly injured, I have experienced many things. Nothing will ever compare.
They need to stop making podcast equipment so available...
Someone who thinks this hasn't experienced gut wrenching ongoing trauma and suffering. I had years of terrible illness where I was literally dying and doctors were absolutely stumped. I had to help myself and I was still a kid! I was in agony and pain every day, struggling to breathe, everything burned. This guy is extremely fortunate.
I'm 14 and this is deep...
More specifically his voice, not his words lmao.
This idea was proposed by Otto Rank in 1924. It was later discredited and Otto Rank was expelled from the psychoanalytical community, and for good reason. It also caused a lot of deaths and harm to mothers and children due to unnecessary caesarean sections.
It had a lot more to do with the soap opera drama of Freud and his inner circle than it did with the actual basis of Rank's work.
No, the shit I took in a hospital bathroom in 2015 is the most traumatic experience of my life.
No more Taco Bell for you
Let me guess, you had too much Taco Bell?
☣️IMPACTED BOWEL☣️
Ah yes. The Taco Hell Stuft Nacho.
That went from "I hate this reality"
To "I can survive anything"
In 3 seconds flat.
This sounds like something someone says to sound incredibly deep and meaningful when they're insanely stupid.
I believe it was more traumatic for my mother… lmao
We don’t remember anything as a fetus/newborn because we don’t have enough brain cells to form memories yet, not because it was traumatizing.
Ma boi had a traumatic event after he readed the script of TLOU PART 2 😂😂😂
"readed" is wild 😂
"that's why you don't remember it". Pretty sure it's cause no newly formed brain that age can retain memories but hey, ballparking it 😅
"The rats eat the eyes of the children's corpses first because, during these famines, they contain the most moisture." - Yeonmi Park
Please have some better perspective on what people's "most traumatic" is.
plot twist this was in response to a 15 yr old cancer patient
'Allgoodnoworries' Thanks TROY now all I can do is worry 😂
Survived is a strong word.
Interestingly enough, human birth is one of the most dangerous birthing processes in the animal kingdom. Most animals can do it all by themselves but humans are at significantly higher risk if they do it alone and even still when we have midwives, nurses and doctors, birthing complications and even death for both the mother and the newborn can still happen. So that part is true
@@johnrivers3813 i was making a joke
@@Faputa-Sosu my bad, it's really hard to tell on the Internet when I'm just reading text if something is sarcastic or not
@@johnrivers3813And people still believe in a god. Lol
This is some Michael Scott mentality.
That’s kinda funny ngl lmao
Barb went through the 5 stages of denial in this single moment.
Most stupid I’ve heard in awhile
This is just as dumb as the last of us TV adaptation
What’s wrong with the last of us show?
Bro if that's the most traumatic thing you've been through then good for you 👏
Literally nobody with any real trauma will agree with this man...
Troy Baker approaches mushroom spores and he becomes a philosopher.
I approach mushroom spores and I hallucinate in Italian
This is why we need to stop listening to people that just got lucky and have role models like doctors and scientists
“Got lucky?”
If this motivates you to get over a battle you’ve been struggling to get through, then let it. If not, then it doesn’t and I hope and pray you can find the strength and wisdom to overcome whatever you’re facing.
If you defend your limitations, they’ll stay there.
This is some real high on weed, lying on a trampoline looking up at the night sky kinda mind blowing shit
wth is he talking about.
I have no idea either lol
Just another tryhard Podcast guru