5 Ship Design Fails
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- čas přidán 30. 05. 2024
- Building ships is difficult business - and sometimes, design flaws can slip through the cracks. These 5 ships suffered from some design faults that caused issues, from the the frustrating to the deadly.
RMS Queen Mary, RMS Lusitania, SS America, RMS Titanic and SS Principessa Jolanda all had design flaws that came out of the woodwork only after the ships were finished!
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Oceanliner Designs explores the design, construction, engineering and operation of history’s great ocean liners - from Titanic to Queen Mary but not forgetting the likes of Empress of Ireland or Chusan. Join Mike Brady as he uncovers the myths, explains the timelines, logistics and deep dives into the lives of the people and ocean liner ships that we all know and love.
0:00 Introduction
0:33 Queen Mary's Rolling
5:43 Lusitania's Vibrations
10:16 America's Funnels
13:17 Titanic's Watertight Bulkheads
16:25 Principessa Jolanda's Launch - Zábava
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Nicely done
"...largely killed the idea of an unsinkable ship."
The USS Nevada has entered the chat.
MS Estonia bow door construction failor (on a RoRo-ship) killed 851 of 952 on board..
Haha, for #1... the Great Eastern was built in a dock that wasn't floodable, and to launch they had to push the ship into the water. And no one bothered to actually do the math to figure out how much pushing power would be needed to actually do that. That got weird, and cost the builders a lot of money when they broke hydraulic pistons trying to do it.
The Eastland - especially after it's upgrade need to be added to this list!
The Principessa Jolanda launch reminds me of a joke:
"Why does the New Italian Navy have glass-bottom boats?"
"To see the Old Italian Navy."
That could be said of the Russian navy after the the Battle of Tsushima, the US fleet at Pearl Harbour and many of the British warships after Jutland...
@@brianperry Well, heck - The Naval battle at Guadalcanal had so many ships sunk between the islands they named it Iron Bottom Sound.
We could do this all day, or night, depending on where Home is ;)
@Super Nostalgia Get your cult nonsense out of here, that has nothing to do with ships, much less ocean liners.
@@aircraftcarrierwo-class I am curious what was said, if you happen to recall based on this bump.
@@Yawyna124 waaat?
Fun fact about the Queen Mary: the author Paul Gallico was aboard when she leaned over particularly heavily and it seemed she would never right herself. This inspired him to write The Poseidon Adventure.
I was told too never bend over in front of a politician. True story.
A fact which made Irwin Allen's use of the Queen Mary as the principal filming location for his legendary movie of The Poseidon Adventure; with the real ship used for the exteriors; a 22 ft model (which still exists, on public display in California) used for the 'at sea' and capsized shots; and interior sets built using the Queen Mary's original blueprints as the key reference. all the more appropriate, and ironic....
“She could roll the milk out of a cup of tea”
A brilliant quote.
Corvettes in WWII were a wee tippy too. They could "roll on wet grass."
Not an ocean liner, but the 17th century Swedish war ship Vasa comes to mind. 🤦
How did you comment 5 hours ago
He is a time travler dont worry.
@@Yaboijw he has a membership
How did I find it in 7 hrs u actually a time traveller
Wait this vid is 2 hrs ago and his is 7 hrs ago
My friend's aunt was on the Queen Mary during the 1964 storm. She said it was a terrifying experience and the passengers suffered greatly.
46° of roll is absolutely insane that's like a theme park ride or something
Maybe that was the voyage that she was met by 27 ambulances waiting on the Southampton quayside to take all the injured passengers to hospital
After seeing Queen Mary's rolling characteristics, I really don't know how on earth she survived the 1942 rogue wave strike while serving as a troop ship.... Just wow
I think that was the same one that inspired a young soldier on board at the time named Paul Gallico to write "The Poseidon Adventure".
I could imagine that the added weight from the tens of thousands of soldiers gave the QM a lower center of gravity and therefore made it more stable then normal.
@@rollingslothmachine3431 Ah.... 10K+ troops could be a big factor afterall...
@@rollingslothmachine3431 not so much QM carried a maximum of 15,740 troops. If you allow a generous 250lbs per man for the soldier and personal kit that amounts to 1788 long tons. For comparison the QM burned ~1200 tons of fuel per day.
@@toddkurzbard No, Paul Gallico was a passenger in 1936 and experienced an extreme roll during lunchtime. He would incorporate the experience into his novel The Poseidon Adventure.
I'm really glad you mentioned the IOLANDA (probably the only ship ever to be lost at her LAUNCH). So many others ignore or are unaware of her when covering ship tragedies.
The Titanic sinking on her maiden voyage was bad enough, but the Iolanda didn't even get that far. I can just imagine her designers and the management of the builders at her launch going 'Oh shit!'
You should consider also the sailing Warship Wasa that rolled over after 200 yards! Not so quickly as the Jolanda but here we go..
@@paoloviti6156 1400 yards
@@23GreyFox thanks for correcting me me but 1,000 yards but still in front of whole Stockholm was embarrassing like hell.
@@paoloviti6156 At least they learned a way to - how not to build a ship.
The US Navy's North Carolina Class battleships had the same harmonic problem as the Lusitania. Once the ship got her speed above 25 knots vibration became an issue and increased as the ship reach her top speed of 28 knots. The solution was to change the propellers which only moved the harmonic induced vibrations to a different speed regime. However the vibration issue was now at a speed that would be unlikely in normal cruising or battle, around 18 knots.
I have to say, I massively enjoy these maritime engineering channels, but this one has one of the most charismatic hosts. Just the right balance of personality, history, and shipbuilding education is going to have me binging these videos until I decide to go on a cruise someday. Then I will be forced to take a "Maritime Disaster Sabbatical".
Note: The Tacoma Narrows was not due to resonance (as is commonly stated) but due to Aeroelastic Flutter. Basically the wind interacting with the bridge would provide negative dampening to the bridge, and at high enough speeds this would overpower any positive dampening the bridge had, leading to an every increasing torsional oscillation.
Yeah and it definitely dident have anything to do with soldiers marching. That happened to millenium bridge in London Just from normal walking people.
*damping
Say what now?🤔
C O O L
Galloping gertie!!!! The broken bits have actually formed a habitat for the local aquatic animals (specifically the giant pacific octopus) and the posts from the original are still standing and can be seen from (or could've the last time I was on) the current newer bridge just to the right.
One of my favourite design issues is the SS Bessemer, an attempt to build a ship with a swinging internal cabin, to combat seasickness. Great idea, unfortunately the swinging of the internal cabin affected the motion of the hull and caused it to thrash wildly, driving it into Calais Pier. Twice.
Would love to see a video made about this @oceanlinerdesigns
That's a better example of resonance than the Tacoma Narrows Bridge.
Nothing better on the day after my birthday than watching a new Oceanliner Designs video :)
Yay hope you had a great birthday!
Great video. Propeller cavitation seems to have been a problem with just about all 4-screw express liners. Mauretania, Lusitania, and Normandie are the ones that generally come up, but most of the big, fast ships grappled with it to some degree. Normandie's vibration problems improved with a new set of 4-bladed props, as did Mauretania's, but neither ship was ever completely vibration free.
Speaking of the magnificent Normandie, she had an issue with rolling nearly opposite to QM- the great ship would roll a bit, then snap back to the vertical with a violence that would send things flying about... Still, these were great ships, imperfections and all. To Queen Mary's credit, though she came to within 3° of capsizing when broadsided by a nearly 100' wave, she did come back up again, and got the 15,000 bruised, bloodied, but grateful troops she carried safely to their destination.
🚢Always a pleasure to watch a new video from Ocean Liner Designs!
Yes quite right, it feels wrong calling Mary out on her rolling when the ship endured some insane conditions and survived just fine. I think the real design failure there was the lack of handrails :)
I heard it was 16000 on board?
@@atomicwedgie8176 she still holds the record for the most people carried by ship in a single journey
I think its a cause/effect situation, why did they put 4 props on the liners - to transmit as much power as possible into the water, cavitation is caused by so much power being put into the water that the water vapourises due to the low pressure on one side of the propellor blade, so if you're pushing the limits of how much power you can put out you're going to run up to the limit.
As an aside this is why submarines making long distance transits do so at depth - cavitation is very loud (all the bubbles collapsing) so if you can prevent them forming by increasing the pressure overall at greater depth then you can stay quieter at higher speeds.
Each nautical flaw has helped in developing safer and more comfortable vessels, but human folly can still cause tragedy occasionally. Thanks for fascinating footage, Mike.
I’m a simple man, I see a OceanLiner Designs video, I like the video and watch it through its entirety
I have to say that I really enjoy Mike’s videos. I came across them a few days ago and I’ve been binge watching them since. They are truly fascinating. As someone who grew up near Belfast I’ve always been fascinated by the Olympic class liners and Ocean Liner history. I have to say Mikes videos are educational, accessible and really professionally put together. this channel has fast become one of my favourite transportation history channels. Just wanted to say Thanks for another great video
And there was nothing wrong with Titanic when she left Belfast! H&W built a good ship.
Completely agree, just discovered this channel and already the videos ive seen are fantastic, also love the Olympic class liners and Ocean Liner history
How I found him is rather obtuse honestly. Since I have an interest in both maritime history and ghost towns, I follow Part-time Explorer who Mike is acquainted with. I don't remember which video it was (I think it was one about the Titanic) but I was a bit confused when the video abruptly cut to an Aussie. A little bit of digging led me me here.
@@lorddrayvon1426...I also found his channel through Part Time Explorer. Two of the best!
Agreed! Oceanliner Designs is part of my sons bedtime routine. Mike is an excellent narrator, whether we are listening intently or dozing off. 🥰
Another great one Mike! Thanks, you made my day!
It's not too surprising Lusitania (and Mauretania) had vibration issues. High-speed propeller design was still pretty much in it's infancy and there was still much to be learned. Still, if you had to get across the Atlantic quickly and you didn't mind a bit of a rough ride "Lucy" and "Mary" were the way to go.
The "Rolling Mary" must have *incredible* restoring force designed into her.
Regarding the Titanic... Mind you, it was mainly the _press_ that threw the word "unsinkable" around.
It probably didn't help Titanic in her scrape against the iceberg that apparently, in order to better facilitate hand-riveting (because the hull-crawling riveting machines decided to balk during her construction) the rivets used were slag-rich and thus more vulnerable to shearing in a scrape. Correct me if I'm wrong about this.
The rivets in that portion of the hull weren’t exactly “slag-rich” so much as they were just iron as opposed to steel. It was for ease of construction around the awkward shapes of the bow and stern, with the machinery not being able to do the job for this reason. Everywhere else, though, they used steel rivets.
The rivets themselves were of the best quality available given the technology of the time. The plating forward and aft wasn't countersunk for them, which might have allowed more of them to shear than otherwise might have.
The real crux of the problem from an engineering standpoint is just that nobody could have foreseen a low-speed sideswipe over a distance of more than a third of the total length of the keel. That particular kind of collision had never been reported before, and without a highly specific set of unlikely circumstances (which wouldn't be fully understood until decades later), wouldn't have even happened that night. It was the kind of absurd scenario nobody could have even imagined happening under the command of a competent officer-right up until the moment it did happen, and Commander Murdoch was helpless to stop it.
It was ENTIRELY the press that threw that word around. Captain Murdoch was a highly experienced and incredibly competent sailor - he absolutely knew better than to make ridiculous claims like that. Ismay and everyone else who worked for White Star was well aware of the ships the line had lost over its history, and had no intention of looking foolish if the worst was to happen.
Unsurprisingly, the people making the ludicrous claims about a ship were the ones who knew absolutely nothing about sailing, shipbuilding, or maritime engineering. But that's one of the things that makes the Titanic such a compelling story. The "unsinkable" ship that sank on her maiden voyage, in a night full of drama, heroism, and, ultimately, tragedy. She wasn't the worst maritime tragedy, nor the fastest, but she was a damn good story.
The Great Eastern had a bit of supernatural folklore attached to it. In fact, it's the origin of the 'workmen walled-up in the hull'-ghost story.
I remember reading about that. As they were scrapping her the story goes that a skeleton was found deep inside the ship. It was apparently someone who was working on the ship and died in there.
My grandfather was on the Carpathia on the voyage rescuing Titanic survivors.
My father sailed most of WWII on Queen Elizabeth, carrying troops from USA to UK.
He said they were always fully laden NY to UK but empty on the way back so she could reach full speed in her battleship grey, safe from being torpedoed.
He told of troops sleeping on decks, not enough berths, and meal service being constant! Had to feed all those men.
My mum was his gf through the war, so she and her sisters appreciated the goodies he brought back from NY, nylons and other items hard to get during rationing.
Yes! We’re all from Liverpool! Many merchant navy families there.
A similar incident to the one mentioned 19:19 was the HMS Prince of Wales when it sunk in 1941 while being in an air attack was hit near the port most propellers shaft by a japanese torpedo and started taking on water also the propellers also cause further damage to the battleship and was difficult to turnoff as the damage also took out the controls which contributed to her eventual sinking.
She _sank_. After she *sank*, she was _sunk_. Sink, sank sunk. Drink, drank, drunk.
Well done. There are a lot of candidates out there, ship launching fails being a recurrent CZcams theme, but you picked an interesting variety, well presented.
I've got a dinner menu from the Lusitania dated Thursday, July 13th 1911. Great grandfather and another relative used to go to Scotland quite regularly in those days I guess.
Mike - I think I'm becoming addicted to your informative, well-presented videos. You are doing great work!
This channel has such a weird specific niche topic. I love it
Poor ole Jolanda! I had never heard this story and what a tragedy, it feels like the lessons in "the race to launch" even far back as 1907 that's 79 years until the Challenger incident, we learn nothing, I think now sharing our knowledge on platforms like this contribute so much to prevent similar occurrences. Great job Mike! a new subscriber today already love the Channel... Good Job.
that's """"Italy"""" for you, a failure since 1861 😂😂 The Savoia were and are cartoonishly stupid, incompetent and evil.
NGL, I'm a bit surprised that the S.S. Imperator didn't make this list since her claim to infamy is that she almost NEVER stood level in the water. This was due to the excessive amount of marble furnishings HAPAG (Hamburg-America Line) had installed onboard without ever considering if such additions would make the ship top heavy. Of course this issue would earn the ship perhaps the most roast worthy nickname of all time, *"Limperator"* .
Thanks for making this video. 15:12 I directly asked this very issue back in your "Titanic Head-on Collision" video. I appreciate you answering my question there and addressing this detail here for others to better understand as well.
I hope there's a part two to this. You covered some big names here, but there's surely even more design flaws on less well-known ships.
Not sure I'd count the last one as a design flaw, more of a 'someone really didn't think this through' flaw. 🤣
Also, I guessed three of these before watching the video - from watching your OTHER videos (QM, Lusitania, Titanic). I'm very much looking forward to getting one of your frankly amazing drawings (RMS Olympic). You do excellent work, mate.
A procedural flaw might be another way to phrase it.
A flaw is a flaw. Whether you design a ship's blueprints or its timetable, these vessels all suffered due to someone's miscalculations.
Though about that last one specifically, there's something so incredibly... Italian about bungling it so colossally. *NOBODY* considered the issue of it being top-heavy?! That almost defies belief. What a comedy of errors.
@@Unownshipper The video isn't about flaws, it's about 'design failures'. Of which the last one really isn't, since it's near identical sister ship was launched without issue - it was someone being a complete moron rather than an issue inherent to the ship itself. But you're absolutely right about one thing - it's extremely Italian...
The Queen Mary was used in the movie The Poseidon Adventure. Also the writer of the book Poseidon Adventure based on the Queen Mary due to a rogue wave hitting the ship pretty hard
Metacentric Height. First thing that came to mind.
Not an ocean liner (although the lakes do get violent) the poster child for metacentric height issues has to be the excursion vessel Eastland. To capsize at the dock in the Chicago River.
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I read a Queen Mary account in "Captain of the Queens" where the former captain and commodore of the fleet described an incident within a French harbor some time after WWII. There was a storm and he began to move the ship out to weather it, as I recall. The anchor snagged a WWII era cable and she began to swing out of control, blown hard by the wind. He ended up going to full power in an attempt to stop the stern from grounding but the ship still struck hard enough to be felt on the bridge. I believe he said the very stern at the bottom of the ship was filled with concrete as a repair, and seeped water ever afterward. Harry Grattidge, Captain of the Queens, excellent read I Highly recommend the book. As an aside, it would be interesting to know if that concrete is still there, because that would be really bad if it is. Concrete, steel and seawater do not mix well.
I read that book as a boy, and toured _Queen Mary_ in 1972. While I don't recall seeing any concrete (Ha!) when I saw the propeller shaft reduction gears, I do recall that some of the gear teeth were chipped. I guess @ 35 years of non-stop transatlantic service might do that.
I like how classic yet art deco the Queen Mary is and I think she and the lusitania show how strong and rosileont cunard liners are.
My grandparents sailed on Queen Mary and Queen Elizabeth several times. My grandmother told me about one rough crossing around 1950 or ‘51. They were in the lounge before going down to dinner and the ship was hit by a wave causing several sofas to rip free of their anchors and roll across the room. She also told me how the ss United States would bounce in rough weather and rode rough weather very differently than the Queens which would roll.
Germany's Europa had to raise its funnels as well.
OMG. I knew of the Principessa Iolanda, but didn’t know about Principessa Mafalda’s tragedy.
In contrast to the Mary, her rival the Normandie was described as a sharp, snappy roller!
This was so interesting and very well done . Thank goodness the Queen Mary 2 is incredible in an atlantic gale and hardly rolls at all.
Absolutely loving this '5 ship' series Mike, keep doing 'em!
Thank you, Mike, for another informative, superbly edited and entertaining video. Your narration is excellent, as always! 👍
Not an ocean liner but the great lakes steamer Eastland disaster is a fascinating story on how not to design a ship.
Can't tell you just how much I enjoy this channel!
You put a lot of info into a short video and manage to make every second of it enjoyable. Excellence in content and presentation!
As we say here in the States: You da Man, man.
Nice personality, knowledgeable, cheerful face, pleasant voice.
This makes Gibbs' achievement of becoming a naval architect without any proper real training all the more impressive.
I love the engineering details behind all the design flaws - such great research and presentation in these.
Engineering sucks
Mike - your videos show immense research, informative narration, and striking visuals. All good, but there is another important detail - the high quality of your voice in narration. In simple terms, you are very easy to listen to, and that is icing on the cake. Well done.
Great narration, tons of information. Overall, a very enjoyable watch.
Love your work, a lot of research and very informative.
Nice video Michael, as always. Bravo!
I'm just not sure if I would include the Jolanda in this list, as rather than a design flaw of the ship itself, it was more of a launch flaw. A testament to this was Mafalda's relatively good service life, although she was slightly modified after the capsizing of the Jolanda. Also note, the Jolanda and Mafalda were built and commissioned by the Lloyd Italiano (Yellow funnel with Italian tricolour), not the Navigazione Generale Italiana (Black funnel with white stripe). Mafalda would eventually join the NGI fleet and due to sheer lack of maintenance and incompetence by the NGI, become absolutely unseaworthy. NGI insisted she completed her last voyage before being scrapped, which led to her tragic sinking.
Italy and incompetence go hand in hand, fuck the Savoia. 😊
Michael your channel is truly awesome and you deliver the information like a seasoned champ; it's as though you have a historical presents to you, as well as a genuine authenticity.
Happy to have just found this channel. Very informative and entertaining, keep up the good work!
Another great video! I wish the best if luck to you!
Another great video! I didn't know the America originally had shorter funnels (My grandfather sailed aboard her during her WWII trooping duties.) The Bremen & Europa also were designed with very short funnels that had the be raised.
Your videos are so therapeutic. Keep up the good work
CZcams algorithm with a rare massive W... This is unique, incredibly well made content.. Seriously. Excellently done videos man. I hit subscribe about a minute in. Keep up the good work!
That's great! Welcome aboard :)
Hi Michael great vids mate, proud of you! It's good for an old sea dog like me to see a young bloke like yourself taking a massive interest in the subject and you certainly do know your stuff mate! I had a great interest in ships of all types from an early age, in my teens (in the 60s and early 70s) I spent a lot of time in Southampton photographing Passenger and Cargo ships it was my hobby I loved it, I now live in Australia but I remember those halcyon days when ships were really interesting! I just missed the Mary but saw and photographed the Queen Elizabeth (my joint favourite of them all the other being Caronia of 49), I saw the QE2 in 69 being prepared for her maiden voyage (Problems with her Pamatrada turbines) I was there on a harbour tour boat for her maiden departure for New York on a very rainy day in June 69, I still have the slides! It seems like only yesterday! I joined the merchant navy in the early 70s as a Junior Engineer I did about 10 years getting up to 3rd before emigration to Aussie in 1981! Still love ships, Thankyou for you great vids and info Mate!
Cheers!
Agree with you about America. She was perfect after the new funnels were installed !!
Cannot justify why I continue to educate myself. Few people I know try to improve their minds. Thanks muchly.
An exceptional insight into the world of early ocean liner design, I learned a great deal, thank you very much. Not an easy subject to convey to a public too much preoccupied with other and very different things., Brilliant, well done..............
Love your videos, Mike. It’s funny you mention Queen Mary and her rolling, as author Paul Gallico was inspired to write the 1969 novel “The Poseidon Adventure” after a voyage on Queen Mary where she almost capsized. How prophetic, then, that she was used as SS Poseidon when they made the movie version in 1972.
Dire Straits say, " that's what they call, Rock &
Roll".
I'd like to see a similar video focusing on operational failures, like how the ferry Harold of Free Enterprise never had a specific process to ensure the bow doors were closed prior to leaving port.
Really enjoy your work Mike.
SS America played a role in the opening credits sequence of Bernardo Bertolucci's The Sheltering Sky, as newsreel footage of its first crossing of the postwar era following a huge blizzard in New York, carrying the young adventurers John Malkovich and Debra Winger. The whole sequence of midcentury New York was a beautiful introduction to a fine film. The short funnel smoke issue also plagued streamliner locomotives that had full faring. Laminar airflow was not a good thing.
When I was a young pup I had the privilege of crossing Puget Sound on the Kalakala ferry, which was also notorious for its vibration problems. The story of the Kalakala (former Peralta) has lots of idiosyncratic technological and historical details that Mike might be interested in.
Sometimes we can all feel like an SS Principessa Jolanda…
Can you maybe do a video about the .S.S. Rotterdam? It is my favourite ship and i would love to see a video about her. Keep it up and amazing video as always!
Good Timing. I was taking a break from hours of learning. Thank you
Oh wow, I've been binging your videos for the past couple of days as I have to study so of course here I am procrastinating but the content is super enjoyable, just now noticed and was surprised that your channel isn't bigger. Great quality, narration, everything. Keep it up man!
Haha sorry for distracting you, get back to study! :D
I've also read that movie producer Irwin Allen had been aboard the "Rolling Mary" when during a storm she rolled as far as 40 degrees, which inspired him to later use her in his classic "Poseidon Adventure"
That was actually Paul Gallico during the war. He had been on board as a soldier at the time.
That’s an outstanding model of the Queen Mary that was built for the film. The opening sequence showing the Poseidon battling the storm is phenomenal. Add John Williams’ score and it becomes one of the most iconic title sequences in film history.
I've always thought too that the Lusitanias longitudinal bunkers hastened her sinking.
I am really enjoying your channel, you tell the facts in a smooth easy way and all the sort of facts about these beautiful ships and their very sad diastaers or the general design, workings and indeed failings that I like and want to know about. Really great work, can't wait for the next.
Thanks for watching! :)
*Exceptional work, Kudos!*
I find it crazy that Queen Mary’s rolling was so bad that it inspired the book and movie “The Poseidon Adventure” in which a ship is completely capsized by a tidal wave. Pretty crazy!
Cool story
Yes and she was used in the movie
Your channel must of been promoted because I found one episode in my recommendations. And I loved how you put together your content. And for some reason a British accent is very pleasing to me. My neighbor and older woman (we are both American and from NYC) says she has trouble understanding the words. We watch a lot of BBC TV here because a lot is now being streamed to America. I actually signed up for Britbox & PBS. So we watch a lot of British shows. There are some British accents that are harder to understand but I suspect its a Welch accent and not British.
But I should get back to your content.
I like how you made the Titanic interesting again. I thought I knew most about it. But you have brought new details. And I am starting to watch your other postings.
Thanks and Good Luck!
Rob
PS Wait are you Australian? Which I did visit Australia back in 1997
Thank you. Your video is well done and informative. I’m happy to have found your channel. Keep up the good work.
Another excellent video, good job!
Just found your channel love your videos about titanic and the engineering that made it work especially the video on how it was steered I was always curious how that worked and you did a real good job of explaining it I also wondered about the galleys on Titanic and how they served all the classes of people on the ship do you have any videos about that thanks Mike for posting all you do
Thanks for watching mate!
Terrific episode, I didn't know that about the Mary. There was a German ship as well (I think), they offset the funnels to one side for more space on the decks but it created a list because of the weight imbalance. They cut the funnels shorter and did some redecorating inside to correct but it never fixed it. I can't find the name but it'll come to me
Limperator?
You mean the Imperator i guess ?
That's the one, thank you!
Imperator, but the funnels were traditionally placed, it's sister ships though, split the funnel uptakes to both sides of the ship to create more deck space for wide sweeping rooms, and they did not suffer from the rolling the first ship had!
What an informative channel! Absolutely wonderful content. Thank you very much, I enjoy every video. Keep up the good work.
new Oceanliner design video in my notification bell, I know it will be a good day
The millennium bridge in London also had resonance issues. When it opened in 2000 it was notoriously wobbly and had to be shut. I'm assuming by the late 1990s they had computer modelling etc, so just goes to show... Best made plans
I was visiting London with a school group on the day the Millennium Bridge opened. We were supposed to walk across the bridge to see The Globe, but my roommate and I saw on the news that they had closed it just before we were about to go. It's so funny to me that it only lasted hours before being closed, and of all the weird coincidences, I happened to be visiting from the other side of the world.
Think you could do a vid on SS Principessa Mafalda, particularly its sinking? I'd love for you to work your magic on such a little known tragedy.
I really enjoyed this vid! Fascinating details. My sis is getting married on the Queen Mary in Long Beach in Sept 2023. I'm super excited to explore it. Staying the nite on the ship as well..... Still looking for a date haha
Thank you for taking the time to create these.
Great video can you do a video of the Sheer and Camber deck and explain how they are measured.
Principessa Jolanda's sinking is just embarrassing!
Sir you are the best Ole Soul on CZcams! Love your content and knowledge!
Another winner. Thanks, Mike. You're the best!
I remember reading about the Principessa Jolanda and it was one of the ships that got me interested in maritime history and specifically ocean liners. I remember the books they all came in this black hard cover with gold lettering. Anybody remember what the series was or the author? I'd love to get these books back.
Interesting that Imperator didn't make the list. Famous for its rolling, necessitating extreme measures such as trimming the funnels, pouring concrete into the hull and removing heavy fixtures and furniture. On top of that, it had electrical wiring problems which nearly caused disastrous fires.
Yes, SS "Limperator"! You're quite right. It is actually somewhat difficult to find a photograph where the ship is fully upright.
Definitely one for next episode :)
Another fantastic video! Thank you Mike!
Outstanding tour !
Still love those older ships. They at least look like ships. I have stayed on the Queen Mary when it was a hotel. Beautiful thing. The QE2 vibrated on departure from New York. We were outrunning a hurricane. Once clear , they reduced speed and we had no more vibration. Personally, I prefer long ocean voyages. 14 days from Southampton to Capetown by Union Castle liner was great.
It is no longer a hotel?
Stayed there numourous times from 77' to 98'
We use to romp all over the ship in the 70s and duck into passageways to explore.. Beautiful ship indeed.
It's still a hotel
The problem with the America very similar to the Bremen, whose funnels also needed to be raised for similar reasons.
Either raise the funnel structure or hand out hoodies with draw-string to aft deckies.
Lusitania was SO eager to serve her company, she wagged her stern 🤣
Another fantastic video by Mike Brady ! I never knew the America's funnels were originally shorter.
I find it ironic that ships like the great eastern, which had incredible safety from sinking, had aspects that weren't carried over to the Olympic class or many others until the double hull was made required.
Mike, my friend! Thank you for another fascinating video. I do not like modern ships much. You cannot beat the beautiful jewels created up to and including the 1960s. Thank you for the video! It is an epic installment! You do the best ship videos! (I am holding a torch for a video about the Dominion Far East Marco Polo! Sorry to be a nag!)
Thanks Daniel! I do plan to cover Marco Polo's insane career at some near future space and time :)
@@OceanlinerDesigns My mother (now deceased) once saw a friend off on a Marco Polo cruise. The ship did not leave the wharf while she was onboard but she still experienced claustrophobia, claiming it was 'the size of a matchbox'! I always loved the look of it and the interesting voyages. Travel to China was highly restricted in those days. I used to have a few of the brochures but they disappeared long ago sadly. They were lovely, I recall. I miss physical travel brochures. The 'good old days' were frequently not so good but they did have some redeeming virtues!
Good Content in a fashioned Way, Keep up the great WORK!
I lived in Tacoma for a while and it's amazing how many people don't know about the first Tacoma Narrows Bridge, fondly called Galloping Gertie.