Not exactly. It will be operational but I'm pretty sure the gauge that it's at would consider it to be miniature gauge or would be a live steam model. But idk fully. If I'm wrong then please correct me
@@matthewpastrikos7383 Miniature gauge is very small. Most narrow gauge locomotives are around the same size a car, while miniature is smaller than that. And yes I do know that many locos come in many shapes and sizes, I'm not refereeing to it's actual size, I'm referring to it's gauge size. Because there some people that make super small versions of normal steam locomotives that are so small that they aren't classified as a locomotive because of the size.
Anything below 15" gauge is considered a model. 15" - 24" is considered minimum gauge, 24" - 4' 8 1/2" is narrow gauge, 4' 8 1/2" is standard gauge. And Anything above that is broad gauge
As a fellow Live Steamer in Australia I must say I can appreciate the time and effort that has gone into this project and the joy of the first light up. Well done and congratulations 🎊 to you.
I’m jealous. I have built a helicopter and an airplane both from kits and the both fly, but that locomotive out shine them both. I did have a steam boat once that the family enjoyed.
That loco is truly a work of art, and a stellar machine. I'm a little sad that it isn't a three cylinder like the original. However, the original 9000 class was a pain to maintain, and that with being how large they were. This smaller version has smaller tolerances and spaces, so maintenance on a third cylinder would be damn near impossible. As it is however, I'm stoked to see what it can do. I bet they are very proud, as they should be. Edited for spelling. Because I apparently can't spellcheck myself.😂
Just awesome. Thanks for sharing this, happy for you. Is this something for a customer or is this for yourself? If for yourself, aside from your time and obvious skill set, what did this cost? Whatever the answer, much more than my HO and 1 Gauge stuff :)
Anything that sounds good on air will sound even better under steam! That's the first thing I thought of when I heard it on air. Even that sounded very melodious. I hope we get to hear it under steam. Diesels are OK, but dead when compared to live steam and I can't stand that BLAAAAAT air horn.
It's a freelanced version of the Union Pacific 4-12-2 type being built as a joint effort by a master machinist and the Merrick Light Railway Equipment Works in Wisconsin. The engine is around 37 ft long, 5.5 ft tall, and weighs approx. 16-17 US tons in operating order. Designed for a minimum curve radius of 200 ft. Available for purchase upon completion.
@@EuroTre1 thank you so much. I have found their website. Are you able to say roughly how much this engine is worth and how long it took to build? Happy New Year from Emerald Queensland Australia
in case you didn't know it the 3 numbers with dashes is for the wheels. The first number is for the lead wheels, middle number is for the drive and the last number is for the tailing wheels. I've never seen a locomotive with an odd number for lead wheels. How can it have 5 lead wheels on 2 rails.
Prolly a typo. But if not I just imagine an extra wheel between 1 and 3 on the leading truck like a tire on a 18 wheeler. Yes I know that is not how it works, no I will not stop thinking of the polar lopsided express
So question, boiler and boiler tubes are they to scale in size and number of tubes? Or did they have to change the number and diameter of them to get the proper thermal transfer?
I can't answer for this loco, I know nothing about the project, but for non superheated tubes there's typically a desirable ratio of diameter to bore (1:80 -1:100 rings a bell, but I wouldn't swear to it), but that scales in favour of diameter as the boiler gets small. Something like bore = (length/ratio) + 1/4" kind of thing. So by the time you get down to 15", and a 12coupled loco to boot, the ideal bore for free steaming is noticeably bigger than just making it proportional to full size would give you. There's a whole chunk in one of Martin Evans' books about small scale boiler design, but I can't remember the title. And I'm sure LBSC (Curly Lawrence) wrote about it too.
A lot of these big engines had stokers, PRR K4's, big boys, challengers, just to name a few used a stoker as a human could not keep up with the demand under full load.
It has nowhere to run, and is maintained by volunteers at an outdoor museum. That’s good enough. UP also has their hands full with 2 locomotives already, they certainly have no need for a third.
And not to be a debbie downer, you're going to have to move your front camera from the saddle and the display from off the backhead because neither will live long at the temperatures they're about to experience. Most portable electronics will go out somewhere around 50C which is only 125F. Usually it is the capacitors that can't take the heat, but LCD displays can only go so far before you cook the liquid crystal material inside. Once you hit 150C, the silicon itself melts, so there goes all your active components. I'm an electrical engineer and have had to do thermal protection for lots of motor control equipment, which is in the industrial side of the business... consumer grade electronics, especially the stuff coming out of china will almost certainly NOT have the same thermal capabilities... But to be fair, that kind of range typically isn't seen in normal use. I'm in the process of building a 7.5 inch heavy pacific 4-6-2... so I'll be going through all of this too, as I'm integrating some electronics into my build for speed and instantaneous tractive effort. Your engine looks great so far!
If you shot this engine from certain angles and didn't show the guys sitting in the tender you would not be able to tell you were looking at a scale "Bigature"!
We're gonna finally have a fully operational 4-12-2 steam locomotive for the first time in several decades.
Not exactly. It will be operational but I'm pretty sure the gauge that it's at would consider it to be miniature gauge or would be a live steam model. But idk fully. If I'm wrong then please correct me
@@Blitz_46 What's the difference between narrow gauge and miniature gauge? Also many steam locomotives comes in different shapes and sizes.
@@matthewpastrikos7383 Miniature gauge is very small. Most narrow gauge locomotives are around the same size a car, while miniature is smaller than that. And yes I do know that many locos come in many shapes and sizes, I'm not refereeing to it's actual size, I'm referring to it's gauge size. Because there some people that make super small versions of normal steam locomotives that are so small that they aren't classified as a locomotive because of the size.
@@Blitz_46 But miniature steam locomotives are?
Anything below 15" gauge is considered a model. 15" - 24" is considered minimum gauge, 24" - 4' 8 1/2" is narrow gauge, 4' 8 1/2" is standard gauge. And Anything above that is broad gauge
You are a true Artisan to be able to build it in this day and age.
As a fellow Live Steamer in Australia I must say I can appreciate the time and effort that has gone into this project and the joy of the first light up. Well done and congratulations 🎊 to you.
An incredible machine, for sure!
I’m jealous. I have built a helicopter and an airplane both from kits and the both fly, but that locomotive out shine them both. I did have a steam boat once that the family enjoyed.
What a pay-off that must have been, probably years in the making. Can't wait to hear her under load.
That stack talk is amazing for such a small locomotive
It is not small to massive
@@MLIW265-FAN Well its smaller than the full sized version lol, Still a Live steam scale "model" A rather large one, though.
@@raymondleggs5508 yeah
@@raymondleggs5508 Hol up
@@raymondleggs5508 there’s no life-size version this was custom
Oh my god. That's a full-sized engine. You can't tell me otherwise. Looks amazing!
Killer, is the only word that describe this locomotive. Nice work fellas she's absolutely beautiful.
love to see this at RH&DR ...... they could have a American Steam gala
Beautiful locomotive! The rear camera is an awesome feature.
Man that thing is wicked looking! You can hear its power when it moves, I love how it sounds when It goes past the camera. Good job my friend
Beautiful locomotive!
Imagine an extra wheel just to make it lopsided on the leading truck
I like the use of a tractor alternator for power! Lol that actually pretty slick way around that problem!
What the hell is a 5-12-2? I've heard of a 4-12-2. Yeah, I know it's just a typo. I'm just yankin your chain man 😂. I love that locomotive.
It's got a spare pilot wheel
Never seen a steam loco with a dash cam.
"Bloody hell....." why did you not just build it full size it's not as if your that far off. An absolute work of art and genius Gentlemen.
Looking mighty fine.
Hope to see more vids of this magnificent build!
That loco is truly a work of art, and a stellar machine. I'm a little sad that it isn't a three cylinder like the original. However, the original 9000 class was a pain to maintain, and that with being how large they were. This smaller version has smaller tolerances and spaces, so maintenance on a third cylinder would be damn near impossible. As it is however, I'm stoked to see what it can do. I bet they are very proud, as they should be.
Edited for spelling. Because I apparently can't spellcheck myself.😂
HEYOOO DIDNT REALIZE THIS WAS 7 YEARS IN THE MAKING THIS IS INCREDIBLE
Only a two cylinder job and not three, still very impressive.
Nice work congrats 🎊🍾 very nice 👍
Amazingly beautiful!
finally after almost 70 years we're gonna have a steaming 12 coupled locomotive
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@@mountainman0 i meant an american one, i already know about the bulgarian 2-12-4
Awesome!!!
Magnificent.
0:58
Damn it Carl I told you not to pop the safety valve
Guys build these things....
Just to avoid the wife !! 🤣
Incredible!
Big boys, big toys....thumbs up.
Can we get an update on this locomotive
With a boiler that big, you might as well slap a full sized whistle on it, probably a Chinese 5 considering those sound good at lower pressure.
Beautiful creation guys, just needs the perfect shade of black paint.
I am so glad some one can count I have never seen a 5-12-2 before
I think you mean it’s a 4-12-2, not a 5-12-2.
@@nathancorcoran5347 Typo.
Beautiful
Really cool
Modern Art.
If they build a 5-12-2 stream engine it will be a marvel of technology.
That's one hell of an impressive piece of work. Would love to see that stretching its legs on the Romney Hythe and Dymchurch!
I thought the same, also would it fit?
Woooowww
This is actually awesome, I need an update video!
Absolutely STUNNING locomotive! (& craftsmanship!). How many years did it take to build it, & where is the railroad it's running on?
Super. 💙 T.E.N.
Just awesome. Thanks for sharing this, happy for you. Is this something for a customer or is this for yourself? If for yourself, aside from your time and obvious skill set, what did this cost? Whatever the answer, much more than my HO and 1 Gauge stuff :)
Can we get a video of that whistle being blown at full steam? It sounds beautiful
Anything that sounds good on air will sound even better under steam! That's the first thing I thought of when I heard it on air. Even that sounded very melodious. I hope we get to hear it under steam. Diesels are OK, but dead when compared to live steam and I can't stand that BLAAAAAT air horn.
Nice
That’s pretty wicked, are there any plans for the locomotive? Or was this just a passion project done for fun and with love?
In my county of West Cumbria North West England UK we have 15' gauge live steam Railway it is called Ravenglass and Eskdale Railway know la ratty
Steam engines are so cool..
Wow
Oh god the poppet valve in the shop 😂😂😂😂
No matter how old men get, we still want our toys.
A "5-12-2" ?????? Obviously the only such steam loco in the Universe, as such a wheel arrangement is impossible or Irish !!!!!!!
Hi. I'm in Australia and would very much like to know more about this Locomotive and who built it. Cheers Adrian.
It's a freelanced version of the Union Pacific 4-12-2 type being built as a joint effort by a master machinist and the Merrick Light Railway Equipment Works in Wisconsin. The engine is around 37 ft long, 5.5 ft tall, and weighs approx. 16-17 US tons in operating order. Designed for a minimum curve radius of 200 ft. Available for purchase upon completion.
@@EuroTre1 thank you so much. I have found their website. Are you able to say roughly how much this engine is worth and how long it took to build? Happy New Year from Emerald Queensland Australia
These are machines that ran on two readily available natural resources, no refinement necessary
Similar boiler size to our standard gauge 0-4-0.
12 drivers damn
I wonder which 15 inch gauge railroad would buy this behemoth of a steam locomotive in grand scale?
What locomotive is this based off of? I ask because it doesn’t look like the UP 9000 class engines apart from the wheel arrangement.
Hell you could brew moonshine with that engine
where are they going to run it at
in case you didn't know it the 3 numbers with dashes is for the wheels. The first number is for the lead wheels, middle number is for the drive and the last number is for the tailing wheels. I've never seen a locomotive with an odd number for lead wheels. How can it have 5 lead wheels on 2 rails.
Prolly a typo. But if not I just imagine an extra wheel between 1 and 3 on the leading truck like a tire on a 18 wheeler. Yes I know that is not how it works, no I will not stop thinking of the polar lopsided express
counting the cog gear on the front axle......
For all the work that goes into this, why not just build a full size narrow gauge loco?
W music
Why didn't you fire it up outside ?????
Has anybody contacted Guinness yet?
It's huge!!! What are you planning on halling with that thing!?
Yes. They plan on hauling yes😂😂😅
It’s for sale over 1 mil
Does it have 3 cylinders like the real 9000 class? Or just 2?
Looks like only two cylinders to me. It also doesn’t sound like a three-cylinder locomotive.
Should have an SP 6 chime whistle
Love the fact that the front bogie has FIVE wheels. At least it does according to your headline. A 5-12-2, how does that work?
must be counting a COG gear on the front axles....
How many inches is that? Cause the other 15 inch gauge seems a bit smaller?
bro you made 1225
the polar express
Looks like polar express
I would have it painted a color, i’m thinking somewhere between blue and green
When is the next video of this coming?
daym
looks like its just the paint now
Does it have a whistle
Hissssssss!!
So question, boiler and boiler tubes are they to scale in size and number of tubes? Or did they have to change the number and diameter of them to get the proper thermal transfer?
I can't answer for this loco, I know nothing about the project, but for non superheated tubes there's typically a desirable ratio of diameter to bore (1:80 -1:100 rings a bell, but I wouldn't swear to it), but that scales in favour of diameter as the boiler gets small. Something like bore = (length/ratio) + 1/4" kind of thing.
So by the time you get down to 15", and a 12coupled loco to boot, the ideal bore for free steaming is noticeably bigger than just making it proportional to full size would give you.
There's a whole chunk in one of Martin Evans' books about small scale boiler design, but I can't remember the title. And I'm sure LBSC (Curly Lawrence) wrote about it too.
Serious question, does it have 5 wheels on lead truck or only 4, something just doesnt add up in my math🤔❓
Geeee, a 5-12-2 wheel pattern? Where does the extra wheel go on the lead truck? Or is there a typo?
how on EARTH do that hand fire that with such a absolutely ENORMOUS firebox
A lot of these big engines had stokers, PRR K4's, big boys, challengers, just to name a few used a stoker as a human could not keep up with the demand under full load.
If it's SP prototype, it's an oil burner...
@@hjebone I think they built it as UP... I don't remember the SP having 12 wheelers but I could very well be wrong.
@@hjebone Only UP had the 4-12-2s, and both coal and oil were used depending on the location and date.
@@RyanHatterer-Ryanns999 this is a scaled down engine though so not sure how that works
Bringing back the 4-12-2
Is this the largest 15 inch gauge locomotive in the world?
It's an easy fix to correct the title to 4-12-2 from 5-12-2. You'd get even more viewers if it was changed.
Silly me, I was expecting to see 5 pilot wheels.
So now we must get the UP to rebuild the one languishing in a Southern California park.
It has nowhere to run, and is maintained by volunteers at an outdoor museum. That’s good enough. UP also has their hands full with 2 locomotives already, they certainly have no need for a third.
Similar to the Union Pacific 3 cylinder 4-12-2 9000
And not to be a debbie downer, you're going to have to move your front camera from the saddle and the display from off the backhead because neither will live long at the temperatures they're about to experience. Most portable electronics will go out somewhere around 50C which is only 125F. Usually it is the capacitors that can't take the heat, but LCD displays can only go so far before you cook the liquid crystal material inside. Once you hit 150C, the silicon itself melts, so there goes all your active components. I'm an electrical engineer and have had to do thermal protection for lots of motor control equipment, which is in the industrial side of the business... consumer grade electronics, especially the stuff coming out of china will almost certainly NOT have the same thermal capabilities... But to be fair, that kind of range typically isn't seen in normal use.
I'm in the process of building a 7.5 inch heavy pacific 4-6-2... so I'll be going through all of this too, as I'm integrating some electronics into my build for speed and instantaneous tractive effort.
Your engine looks great so far!
wer did you put the 5th wheel
Not so Miniature Steam engine. It it was any bigger it would be a full sized steam locomotive!
Why does that steamer sound like a truck?
If you shot this engine from certain angles and didn't show the guys sitting in the tender you would not be able to tell you were looking at a scale "Bigature"!
Huh. Never heard of a 5-12-2 wheel arrangement. How exactly does that work?
It doesn’t it’s a 4-12-2
it has a cog wheel on one of its axles............
Polar Express be like 🤔🤨🙃
And at 0:59 all of the tools in the shop rusted
Where is this railroad located?
Marshall, Wisconsin, U.S.
Where you buy rails for 2' gauge?
The same place you buy rails for any other gauge.