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I should be a politician that knows nothing about politics! Why not? It works for law enforcement officers who knows nothing about law!
its already happening lol
Right, look no further than the entire democrat party.
@@MattyTheConstitutionalist Republicans do it too, frankly.
I'm a Libertarian, so don't come at me with that "you're a Democrat" B.S.
yo i live in fairborn ohio
Well, unfortunately we recently had a president who fits that description.
If the police are allowed to lie to you, how can you believe anything they say.
Bingo!
Its simple, YOU CANT! And you shouldnt!
@@kidwave1 and I don't.
For shits and giggles you're probably better off thinking the total opposite of what they say and THAT'S probably correct.
Very very WISE observation!
Legally this is only partially true. Courts have firmly established that it's acceptable for cops to lie about just about anything. But they have also firmly established that it's not acceptable for them to lie about the law. They can lie all day long about what they saw you do or tell you they have all kinds of evidence against you they don't actually have. But they cannot lie about what a law actually is or claim that you're required to do something or provide something as a matter of law in an attempt to trick you into complying with unlawful demands.
In practice of course they lie about the law all the time and generally get away with it. Because most people don't know the laws in the first place and just go along with whatever a cop tells them they need to do. And even in the cases where people actually know the laws and know their rights are being violated very few have the means to pursue a lawsuit that would actually hold them accountable.
Officer: "Regardless of what the LAW SAYS, we're gonna do what we're gonna do, and you'll have to fight it later, at your expense and WE DON'T CARE AND WE WON'T BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE"
That’s exactly what he said, so casually and without care. I hate it.
Until they lose their qualified immunity this B.S. attitude will be their attitude.
Wrong answer, on several levels.
42 USC sec 1983, 1985, 1986
18 USC sec 241, 242
Would love to see people fight the cops with these, especially title 42 as it says they have NO INSTITUTIONAL PROTECTIONS OR IMMUNITIES when violating the rights of another.
Your arrogance towards massive case law that debunks your statement and your acts of tyranny will force you to choose a side....because insurrection countdown and when this occurs sir....your badge and what you represent will mean nothing....Your gang and higher echelon of law enforcement that endorses this behavior of public servants to rain tyranny upon law-abiding citizens will be met with a strip down the middle of our nation in bloodshed...
The fact they are so easily willing to say "sue me" just shows the mentality that Qualified Immunity has given these tyrants.. "sue me... what do I care, I'll never accept wrong doing. You and the rest of tax payers will pick up the bill." Qualified Immunity should be abolished and every badge should carry liability insurance.
What great idea 👍👍👍👍👍
I agree with you 100 percent
💯💯💯💯⚖️⚖️👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Cop: "We can do this one of two ways."
No, the ONLY way to do this is the LEGAL way.
It's scary how confident these cops are while blatantly misunderstanding the law.
If you can't dazzle them with brilliance baffle them with BS. This is exactly what the first officer was doing. Talk fast and don't let the other person get a word in edgewise.
Even when they know they're in the wrong, they think that uniform and badge let them do what they want and screw your rights. It was so much worse before body cams were implemented
Now you know how POC feel….
Misunderstanding?? LoL 😂
@@freddiehoskins6658 🔥💜
Qualified immunity should be abolished and the police held accountable for their actions.
How?
I am responsible for every aspect of the quality of my work. LEO's should be held to at least an equal standard.
Qualified immunity doesn't even legally exist,it is a form of judicial corruption allowing corrupt officials to illegally get away with their crimes. The only legal lawful immunity that legally exists is for senators only.
They’re so many that are just incompetent
Lee Caldwell: I think it's abolished in Colorado
The cop was straight up telling him “we gonna do whatever we want. Right or wrong. If you wanna argue about it, do it in court. We’re not listening.” Props for that. At least they’re honest about being corrupt.
Going through the court system is costly in time and money, and police have proven they'll lie in court. Someday this cop may come across a citizen who will skip the court system and target the incompetent law-violating officer.
@@terrenceoday9493 They should start perfecting robots to become officers because there’s always gonna be that disgusting human being trying to take advantage in the position.💁🏻♂️
And they don’t care a shred that it costs about $5,000 PER CHARGE for a decent lawyer to defend you, at minimum. So basically they can pin you with a false charge and just for the pleasure it’ll cost you $5k+ just to prove you didn’t do anything wrong. And if you’re lucky you won’t end up pinned with a charge that’ll permanently screw up your life. But they’ll do all they can to make sure you’re not lucky and SOMETHING sticks. That’s why they’ll charge you with every infraction they can possibly find.
Yep.
@@terrenceoday9493 put a lien on their bonds of office that's how we gotta get at them
That cop is right when he says, he doesn't know law, but he is a Master of excuses. And state license reciprocity is well known.
The only job in this country where you can be ignorant of the basics rules and or law and still keep your job.
And be well overpaid aye ??
I wouldn't last one week at my job with this mentality... Pathetic !!!
Very very WISE observation!
And hold the ability & desire to ruin people's lives over nothing. Then believe they are some kind of hero.
You will have your career held back if you get certification of legal training.
The only job where it's your job to know law yet don't have too.
You can’t argue the law with someone that doesn’t know the law.
Or someone who does not care about it
But you can educate….
I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed man 🤣🤔
The guy with the camera did a horrible job even explaining his position.
Can't argue with stupid. You are just wasting your time, don't even try.
The difference between ‘reasonable’ and ‘lawful’ seems vital. The threat to contact the military (his employer and master) is disgusting as anticipated retaliation. I hope this man makes complaints and follows up.
To give an update. I just finished the IA complaint process, and it ended like we thought it would. Nothing done. I pulled all records related to this and it turns out...me wanting to pull to a safe location and me wanting to keep the cop out of my truck convinced him I had drugs and that is what he was after. I just did not give him any RAS or PC to get in... and that pissed him off. The department never corrected him on the law, in which he had all the info on my DL. He even stated in his interview that he wanted a local address to satisfy his policy and what he wanted. Then I had the police chief call the base and try to get me in trouble this video and mess with my career. Thankfully, my leadership saw through what was going on.
Yes that all cops swallow
Thank you for the update
You are not OBLIGATED TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AFTER YOU HAVE HANDED ALL THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS. License, registration and proof of insurance. It’s never ILLEGAL TO REMAIN SILENT. I DON’T ANSWER QUESTIONS
Believe it or not, just remaining silent without invoking the fifth amendment has been ruled by the courts to be deemed suspicious enough for detention. You must invoke the right to remain silent to be protected by the fifth. Screwed up, huh?
It may not be illegal to remain silent, however, staying quiet is not an assertion of rights. The best way to not speak in a way that cannot be misinterpreted is to state I would like a lawyer present prior to any questions, period. Or… state “I invoke my right to remain silent” and then shut up; otherwise, it may be misconstrued and not applicable. The courts do not recognize straight silence as an assertion of rights, nor speaking after you invoke your rights. Just be quiet.
You are spot on with that. If a cop threatened to arrest me for not giving him extra information, then arrest me so I can sued the police department for hundreds of thousands of dollars.
@@blackredneck4378 it’s not until municipalities are on the verge of going broke or having to reduce services due to high payouts for rights violations that it may dawn on them that “hey some officers are costing too freaking much to be working for us”. Then maybe they will be inclined towards ending QUALIFIED IMMUNITY. Look at what has happened where it has ended. Bad Officers May quit and move to other jurisdictions and I say good riddance. They will soon get caught or have to change🙏🏾before they kill somebody(ALTON STERLING).🙏🏾
@@letsgobrandon3007 "...nor speaking after you invoke your rights." That statement is not accurate. You may choose to selectively answer or not answer any questions before or after invoking your rights. It would be utterly preposterous to compel a person to answer questions because they selectively answered questions after invoking their right to shut up.
The "good' cop says he doesn't know the law, but he sits there copsplaining instead of looking up the law. He know the law, he's just lying because he's allowed to.
Which one is the good cop?
@@vernetterobertson3896 lol i dont know if he was a good cop but having a conversation about things is a step in the right direction.
Or, as equally possible, he doesnt know the law and doesnt care either as there are no/few consequences for not knowing the law for him. A citizen however, not knowing is not a defence.
Or, he knows the law, but also knows the other guy. And the other guy is gonna do what he's gonna do, and all you can do is challenge it after. It's just a fact, Jack.
"I appreciate that."
"You keep using that term, but it does not mean what you think it means."
Dear Abiyah, Thank you for exposing the truth about policing in Amerika. Thanks for doing the right thing for the people. Keep on speaking the truth. Thank you
It’s PAINFUL watching and listening to these men
I thought the same thing.
Banging my head on the kitchen table !!!!
IM WITH YOU BROTHER !!
These are not men, men don’t pray on others….
@@Robcalitrek1 agreed
@@Robcalitrek1 *prey :-) Please DO "pray on others" that the Lord would answer your intercession for them.
"Your 4th amendment right being violated will not be rectified here" Once it is violated it can never be rectified.
But it could be rectified....the cops could acknowledge and stop committing the violation.
Problem is, cops are trained to violate rights in the name of profits.
The greater the ignorance of the law by those "subject" to the law, the greater the profits for the administrators of public policy and cops are used as the administration's collection agency.
Take the We The People Course...arm yourself in the war of information.
-VGQ
@@Still-Learning Totally agree. I was just referring to the instance in the video (and any other time) if it's violated that instance cannot be rectified. But it needs to stop.
@@johnmcenteggart1663 Got it....you can't unfire a bullet.
It’s really crazy how cops say you welcome to sue me..They don’t care if they get sued because not one single dollar comes from them!!!
Brother, I appreciate your honest and fair approach to these. I support LEOs when the obey the law. But I hate to see them be thugs as well. You’ve got the proper mindset on all of these.
If a cop doesn't know he should look it up before he tries to enforce it
That would be too logical.
@@johnshaddick6858 Right, their pride causes them act the way they do, especially if they think they're above the law.
If officers don't get what they want they jump straight to finding a way to arrest you.
I'm tired of cops talking to us as if they have our best interests and they don't.
this happened 20mins north of my home.. im glad to see audits getting done all over
Funny how every time he's trying to make a legitimate point, the cops cut him off.
The officer is legally allowed to ask almost anything. He can ask for your sandwich and he can ask you to wash his car. He cannot legally order that you comply with those requests.
The officer is asking to surrender your rights for his safety. Who will protect your safety?
Absolutely disgusting to watch!
We have no right to expect safety to be provided by law enforcement or any other public servant for that matter. The only one who's going to protect you is you.
Ba
America 325 million inhabitants. and 325 million laws and they call that land off the free
That is Fairborn, Ohio, near Dayton and the home of Wright Patterson Air Force Base and the National Museum of The United States Air Force. They are WELL aware that military do not need to have DL with current addresses due to being moved around a lot! EVERY cop near a US military base is WELL aware of that fact!
So as a pig you can just make up any law that you want and then just leave it up to court and your qualified immunity to protect you. That’s garbage. And so are cops.
It's insane that as a society this is what is going on millions of times a year. So much time, energy, and happiness is destroyed due to these lunatics that have taken over government so they can destroy humanity.
😂😂 yeah no shit, I'm sorry but your comment was just funny to read bc I honestly don't even know what to think or feel any longer since everything is just so fucked up now a days. I think it's bc you used the words lunatics, government, and destroy humanity all in the same sentence. Lol. Yeah that's pretty much the case, it really is fucked up........I can't tell if I want to laugh or cry any longer with this ridiculous fairy tale existence we've lived in for far too long......
They want to violate, put the burden of proof on you and get away with it. It's been proven in court already, yet they still violate.
Hats off to the citizen for keeping his cool and also paying attention to process rather than solely content. “We are dialoguing.”
Cops have been given such a powerful position. Ability to escalate something to the point of torture, kidnapping or death.
That they should not be having unwanted interactions with citizens unless there has been an injury or death.
Have you seen the anime psycho pass?
i dont live in the us. what is scary is EVERY us cop gets a gun. the good, the bad, the ugly
search for an off duty cop who got into an argument with a citizen whose car broke down. lost his temper, didnt ID himself and shot multiple times killing the innocent man camera evidence indicted him though he tried to lie his way out
what about houston tx, where 10-12 incl dumbass Groines shot semiauto weapons from outside killing 2 innocent citizens fast asleep after midnight
Good God. So..If you're doing 60 in a school zone, they have no right to stop you? Seriously?
DEFUND the corrupt ones!
Did y’all hear what our employee just said? “You’re welcome to either sue me in court or come up to the police station…” This small wee wee having egg head coward is just offering up our money to people because he doesn’t know how to do what we pay him to do. This is disgusting. Why do people who don’t know enough to debate always lead with the line “I’m not going to debate with you”?
Underrated comment
That cop should be fired instantly!!
They lead with that line because they know they'll lose the debate. Their telling you it'd unfair for you to beat them in a debate because their inability to retain information and other mental deficiencies make it an unfair situation. Essentially he's saying it'd be you going in to a battle of wits against an unarmed opponent.
@@TMFN122 As they say in the north of here ,in England.( Cops are ) strong in the arm but thick in the head.
When you hear," I'm not going to debate with you".
The answer should be," that's sensible, you'd lose that debate.".
I'll bet that triggers his wont to debate.
Here's the deal...we will take it to court...robots.
Bonus fact: When in the military, your state license can be expire and still valid. Each state is a little different, but they all say your license is good for as long as you're in the military without having to renew said license.
As you stated, having an expired driver's license depends on state laws. Some states only allow your licenses to be expired for up to 90 days while others may authorize up to six months. Are you actually saying that as long as I have an active duty CAC, I don't ever have to renew my driver's license? If so, that is incorrect. I lived in state A, my driver's license was from state B, and my car tags were from state C; and yes, if you are on active duty, this is legal in all states. Some states will allow having a driver's license without a photo; so if you have a DL from state A, then state A may allow you to mail in your DL and they will mail you your new DL without a photo on it.
@@james3588 Unless the rules have changed recently, yes, you could go your whole career in the military without having to renew your license.
You receive your "official" state of residence when you enlist. That never changes except when you reenlist and that's up to you to change. Thus no matter where you live after that, you can' have a license in one state, live in another state. You can't have a vehicle registered in a third state, unless you've established residence there.
That is not correct, you cannot go your entire career without renewing your DLs. Each state has its own requirements on how and when to renew active duty members' DLs. And yes, you can have a tag in one state, a DL in another state, and a residence in another state, or at least prior to 2016 when I retired after 28 years.
@@james3588 According to the laws in my state (IN) you can go your whole enlistment without ever having to renew your license. Most states are that way, but i will admit there may be a state or two with different rules. The variation is how long you have to get a new license once you end your military service.
Then there's the idea if you drive anything military while you're in, you have to get a military driver's license, which notes what vehicles you're qualified to drive.
Btw, while i didn't serve 28 years in the military, i did serve as a personnel admin specialist (75B) at company and battalion level. And the only way you can tag in one state, license in another and reside in a third would be on a temporary basis, dependent on state law, until you can get them all under one state. But that would be a pretty rare circumstance.
You ARE a man of INTEGRITY...And a absolutely BRILLIANT teacher - Hands down...
Wow thank you for that!
@@WeThePeopleUniversity I think you're awesome 👍
@@WeThePeopleUniversity Why don't the good LEO's expose the bad ones in your opinion? Seems like some shady business is happening in a lot of police departments. Almost as if the people running the show are all typically hiring little "henchmen" for themselves to do their evil bidding almost like their little cronies or something rather than upholding justice and the law in a professional manner. What's the problem? I mean how hard can it be to hire sensible, ethical, professional, hard-working, moral, kind, educated, and normal people to do the job correctly???... 🤔🤔 Do we seriously live in a reality in which this is simply not possible? What do you think? Thanks for all that you do. You were one of the very few good ones.
Ditto! 🎯👍
A law enforcement officer not knowing the basics of basic law involved in his day-to-day routine such as traffic stops is equal to a Master Carpenter not knowing the dimensions of standard materials. You cannot possibly do your job efficiently or accurately without that knowledge.
I don't expect a police officer to know every law but I do expect them to intimately know any law they are attempting to enforce. And I think that is more than reasonable.
Fake it till you make it attitude.
I would expect them to have more than 6 Months training, whereas there are certain yourapeon countries that Require up to 4 YEARS of training.. free(2b)dumb is all america has right now.
This cop interrupts EVERYTHING this guy says....even when he's answering the tyrant's questions....must be a great husband and DAD.
The military teaches us very early the difference between a request and an order. The police teach them very early to use the word need in place of want.
It is not about knowing the laws..it's about knowing the law you want to enforce on others.
Its awesome you are showing the people what corrupt, & inept bullies that they are !!!
👍👍👍
He’s in the military and this investigation is about an address that’s clearly on his license, so what more do they want, do they want him to give addresses to every military post he’s been on or foreign country he has visited? This cop is asking for information beyond the legal scope of his investigation!
I was wondering why he was asking for an address if he already had they guy's license. I had a cop try to pull that with me once. The cop was asking if the address on my license was correct. I said I wasn't answering questions. The cop then threatened me with failure to ID if I didn't verify that the address on my license was correct. I said, "You're holding my license in your hand. It has an address on it. In order for this to be failure to ID at this point you would have to have probable cause to believe that address is incorrect, and I have every right to not answer any question you ask. Your move." The cop didn't press it anymore.
He asked for his address because... I know that here in Oklahoma, you MUST keep your address current on your driver's license. You only have 10 days, by law, to change your address on your driver's license once you move from that address on your license. I'm not sure what the law is on that in Ohio, but it is the law here in Oklahoma. It is an offense you can be cited for if your address on your driver's license is not your current address. Never tell the cops it isn't, and if you have to, tell you just moved a few days ago. Just make sure you don't tell them it's been more than 10 days that you moved.
Policing for profit. It’s an $80 ticket if your address isn’t current. Great exchange with a cop. Cops need to realize they are dealing with an educated public.
@@BigBabyJane but in this video, the person had a Florida DL and while you're in the military, you have the choice to leave your driver's license as the state of your residency, which in this case is FL, or he could get an Ohio driver's license.
I was going to try to become a cop...
but I understand the first amendment so I'm probably "over disqualified"
😆😆😆
Seems like the cops only know the second amendment.....I can carry a gun
@@keithball6480 the police understanding of the second amendment is..
you are allowed to carry a gun if you have permission from them
You don't need a permit or license to exercise any right🤔🤔
@@keithball6480 some do and they just don’t care or pretend they don’t know because it doesn’t help their tyranny.
That's like being a electrician, and not knowing how to do electrical.
Say it with me, Officer: *"Ignorance of the law IS NOT AN EXCUSE!!!"*
The issue with rolling the window down all the way is that now cops, who know they're being filmed, use the fully lowered window as an excuse to claim that they smell something and now have probable cause to search without your permission.
Yeah, that or they just want you to be at their every beck and call, obeying their every command as our "masters" no matter how ridiculous, absurd, or inconsiderate their requests are. I remember not rolling my window down all the way one time and the idiot cop thought it was important enough to stick it in his police report. I'm not kidding, I know bc my lawyer told me after he read it. These cops now a days are not fucking around and not in a good way either. We need to remove and replenish that sweeps as well as cleanses the entire nation of these fucking morons with new ones.
Probable cause is only to get a legal lawful search warrant signed by a judge under oath and affirmation.
But can they PROVE what they smelled?
Do the police have certification that verified their smells are accurate?
Cannot bottle a smell and bring to court.
This cop doesn't mine getting sued you can tell by the way he said "you can take me to court and sue me". Because they don't pay the taxpayers pay.
Then you remind him - it’s not about suing. The money is an after thought. We are going after certifications. Cops that cost taxpayers money don’t get to keep their jobs.
@@karinaz8756 man I wish it was like that. These police department will keep bad cops on the force and only God knows why. Derek Chauvin had 19 complaints and him putting his knee on a person neck was his second complaint.
That is why we the people must demand that their qualified immunity must go.
IT'S A DAMN SHAME WE HAVE TO TEACH OUR KID'S NOT TO TRUST COP'S EVER
Love this guy, I'm a former campus police officer at at a university with a degree in chimerical justice degree with 6 months of academy training and I'm lot on this stop..
Ignorance of the law is not exception for the law! Its sad that this man knows more then the people we pay to do the job
Unfortunately that only applies to us. For some reason the courts have said ignorance of the law is okay for law enforcement. That is the doctrine of qualified immunity.
It's why people want it abolished.
"Its a reasonable request"
They dont use these words accidently. They know they can later say that they never forced him to give this information. They requested it and he volunteered.
Make them order you, command you, compell you. A request is just that, a request. Its not a lawful order. You cant sue for making requests
He is a LAW enforcement officer. I will only comply with LAWFUL orders. It is REASONABLE for me to protect my safety.
@@markdaniel8740 you read me quoting the cop, did you mistake those words for my sentiments? Or are you just reiterating my point?
Because i am just pointing out that the cop is choosing his words carefully to be devious and tricky.
I am not taking the cops side.
If the cops do not read your Miranda rights to you, every answer to their questions should be you reading them to yourself out loud. After that you should invoke those rights.
You can’t sue for doing something under duress either. No damages.
@@KevinSorbo.
If the fear is of arrest, yes, as everyone would have that at that moment. But the fear of imminent harm or death? No.
RIGHT! We want you to BOW DOWN TO US COMPLETELY, PERIOD. After all we are COWARDS
Very well said sir, and much thanks for your service.
If you can hear me why should I have to roll it all the way down. It’s a power and control issue. Ego prevailed on the part of this officer. He was being a prick and it showed. I don’t have to have a license in your state to be able to drive there.
He talked WAY too much.
This officer wasn't listening to a word this dude said, the only point of this convo was to gather evidence against the man.
NEVER SPEAK TO THE POLICE
Bingo!
It was a good conversation in order to hear the cop talk and reveal that he is a fool. The cop doesn't know the law, doesn't care about the law and thinks he can do anything he wants and the victim can just file a complaint or fight it in court if they want.
@@cobracommander9138 good convo, until he stutters or says a word wrong and then gets arrested for DUI.
I feel that it is my duty as a fellow rights activist to take the time to give you my utmost thanks , also I want to thank you for all the people that watch your videos without thanking you. I understand the depth and importance not to mention how helpful they are to the public. Thank you i wish I knew you and you are my fucking hero
I love your break downs of videos ! Thank you for your knowledge of the law and how the cowards work thank you much love and respect brother 👊🏻
Sid the Scientist is a bad man! I wish he would audit full time. Love that he expressed that it was condescending for the cop to keep saying, "I'm not an attorney". I agree!
I have yet to hear a fire fighter or a soldier to whine about "safety" within their vocations. It is disingenuous for LEOs to rant about safety in the profession of dealing with criminals.
There job is not a profession dont believe me look it up
@@keithharris4378 Their fear is less about with their title and more about their character.
Guess you missed all the videos of firemen spraying cameramen with high powered hoses for recording or all the videos where they had cops attack people for them because they were being recorded… they’re right here on CZcams
@@KevinSorbo. You are correct, I have missed the firefighters spraying people with hoses. Was that in China or Iran? When LEOs attack for recording, they are criminals. We have the "RIGHT", don't need permission, to record our public officials in the performance of their duties, while in public. I am not saying public officials conduct themselves properly at all times.. I am saying, when they do overstep their authority, they are breaking the law.
@@malcolmchevrier6866 it was this strange place called Los Angeles the last video I caught the one before that I believe was Florida… maybe you need to step into reality and grow up and when you start to finally mature you’ll realize all that propaganda you ate up in school made you stupid.
Those cops are basically saying they can violate rights all they want and you have to deal with it in court, and they say that because they face zero consequences for it.
What is the crime he's suspected to have committed ? Without articulating the crime he has no authority to interfere with a man exercising his right to access a public venue.
So in a nut shell, the "good cop" is saying that he doesn't give a damn what they law is, he is prepared to use force, even deadly force, to get his way. And if completely confident that he and his workmate will face no consequences for it.
Strange how this "good cop" starts to talk about the tint on the other guy's windows and having an unobstructed view of the inside of his vehicle?!? Look over HIS shoulder and look at the tint on HIS vehicle and then explain why the police are allowed to have privacy in their vehicles but we are not?!? Str8 up BS!!!
Some animals are more equal than others. Pigs are the most special of all.
I actually asked a cop that once but they said cause we can I the answer I got..
@@rayh592 - Animal Farm! The George Orwell book that people forget about. LOL
No animal shall sleep in a bed, with sheets.
See!?! There is no rule about beds. It's the sheets that we have a problem with!
LMAO
Two things you can be wrong about more often than not and still get paid,a meteorologist and a cop.
To give the second cop some credit, he was willing to have a reasonable conversation and was very professional… regardless of his miss understanding of the law
I would be considered incompetent, and then terminated, if I was at my place of work and not know how to do my job. How do the little blue men keep getting paid and not know theirs?
Can you imagine the lawsuits that could be saved if they had a general database they could cite for guidance..
And have a direct link to it in all cars, publicly announced that it is required to be in there, so they can't lie about not having access. They would not have a valid ras without a working and often used tablet, would have a key logger with a publicly available password. Any detained person can check the current laws against what the leo is accusing/detaining them for on site, No more qualified immunity without meeting very strict requirements.
You're allowed to sue me in court. I'm sure every taxpayer loves to hear that coming from a cop. And his supervisor ?
Thanks for your service and I'm not talking about police
That second cop reminded me of the female officer who arrested Jeff Gray in Georgia, when she said “ if we can’t do it the right way, we’ll do it our way” 😏
When a cop says I'm welcome to sue him in court my first immediate question is if he's offering to waive his qualified immunity to see me in court? Guaranteed they'll say no
There is no qualified immunity for civil rights violations under title 18 U.S.C sections 241 and 242, and 42 1983,1985.
@@dragonf1092 good luck getting the state to admit the committed civil rights violations.
Cop: We're going to do whatever we want, if that's a problem, then it's a matter for the courts"
Absolutely WRONG. That cop should be terminated asap
This older cop and this man, had a great back and forth. Not many have this patience and kindness, I hope if I ever run into a cop, that they have this cool level head and demeanor. He explains himself, and asks questions to further the conversation. Great dialogue. He stays aware, he is engaging. He isn’t totally dismissive of any questions. He doesn’t have an ego, he isn’t trying to intimidate anyone. Don’t forget to call notice the good things on both sides
if you ever doubted whether a law enforcement agent was a profession, this is a perfect example of why it is NOT a profession. the superior court has ruled that law enforcement is NOT a profession because it does NOT meet the definition. a profession is described as a vocation or occupation that requires advanced education and training and intellectual skills which definitely leaves law enforcement out of the definition. this decision was based on a lawsuit for membership in a clemency board which they loaded with police so no one could be granted clemency. state law defines a clemency board member to be a cross-section of professions of local residents to be a member and since only police were placed on the board, it would not act in the manner in which the board was designed to be manned and function.
No doubt
Well said!
They do have advanced education just fails to educate in the most important area it should
@@danielmackey9765 advanced education my ass! all they learn what to do is intimidate, coerce, and arrest you for not kissing their asses!
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I live in the Dayton Ohio area. I am very familiar with Fairborn and all of the surrounding areas. The Air Force base is here and I’m guessing this gentleman was here for something related to his duties there. The reason they want him to roll his windows down more is obvious. I have been pulled over a few times in the area and never once been asked to roll my window down more than halfway. It’s sad that this man is nobly serving our country and is treated this way by uneducated law enforcement in Ohio. Kudos to him for knowing his rights and knowing the law better than these tyrants.
I once brought a wallet I found on a bike path to the police station. The cop at the desk asked me for my social security number, not my name, address or phone number but my SSN. Last time I’ll ever go to the police trying to do a good deed.
Both cops were very good at interrupting the citizen to say something that demonstrated that they weren't listening.
I will not sit on the ground because I cannot sit on the ground. I would not do it anyway.
This gentleman is most eloquent and polite
IN "This day and age" the cops know if the vehicle is registered, to whom it is registered, and most likely what the registered owner looks like. The need for proof of registration is as pointless as proof of insurance sans property damage!
Your analogy was spot on!!
Keep fighting the good fight, WTPU! Thank you for your work.
Sid, here in Ohio when they ask you your address and they have your ID in hand that means they are checking to make sure you have kept up your info on your license. In Ohio, when you change addresses you have like 10 or 30 days to inform the Bureau of Motor Vehicles. So, they are looking to see if they can add another charge..
That would be part of the investigation to which the individual has no lawful obligation to assist. And what do you say to an engineer or architect who is temporarily on assignment in a location that exceeds 10 or 30 days. Are they under some obligation to change their state of residency to satisfy the job? Or in this case an individual in the military. Doesn't make a lot of sense.
That Ohio law doesn't apply if you are in the military. He doesn't have to get an Ohio driver's license or report to them that he isn't living in Florida. When you are in the military you are considered to be domiciled in the state where you enlisted not in the state where you are stationed and currently living.
It is no wonder that the cops are so confused when it comes to law. Something can be against the law in one area but perfectly legal in another!
Cops sign up to enforce laws where they’re hired. Who cares about laws in other state. No confusion they will always play the stupid role to get you to talk and get upset when you play the stub role and don’t answer their questions or challenge their “authority”.
I assume you mean different in different states?
If you take a job in a different state, you'd learn that states laws, that would be prudent.
The officer said, " it's not going to get resolved here."
And therein lies the problem.
IT SHOULD!!! 😡😡😡
I was stationed in Hawaii for 3 years, I was a Texas resident the entire time..
I say this all the time, when someone becomes a law enforcement officer, they must have at least one or two years of a law degree to become a cop, that way there is no misunderstanding of the law, because most of the cops I see don't know anything about the law
You think that people will go to law school and work as a police officer for $50k rather than work as an attorney for $150k?
They don’t need an extensive knowledge of the law. Only a WORKING KNOWLEDGE OF THE US CONSTITUTION that they swore an oath to protect and defend. They are only taught by seasoned oath breakers on how to violate rights and get away with it. How to lie and give undying loyalty to the BLUE LINE OF TYRANNY that supersedes the constitution.
@@feloniousfloyd2203 In California, $150k is on the low side for police officer.
@@NeverTalkToCops1 that is so egregiously incorrect 😂 try 60-75k
@@NeverTalkToCops1 MAYBE they hit 100k in certain areas , but it's closer to 75k than 150k like you stated. All I'm saying lol
The officer's claim that the citizen had to role his window down all the way so the could fully view inside the car is de facto stating that the citizen must submit to an unauthorized search.
What ever he says I still hear we are going to do what ever we want, regardless of the law, because we do not know the law anyway! 😳
If the state has a violation on the books for having an out of date address, then the officer asking if it's a current address is a violation of the 5th. Threatening the man with arrest if he doesn't verbally answer a question that could potentially implicate him in a violation seems like a pretty clear case of attempting to violate a man's rights under color of law. The license is on the address, as you say Abiyah, he's satisfied the requirements under the law. Too bad this officer is too full of himself to ever get how much of a POS he really is.
PIGNORANCE at its finest
When he says this isn't the place to fight it, the court is.
Doesn't that somehow imply the police possibly KNOW they could be wrong and do it anyway??
Thank you sir for your videos and your eBook you are polite respectful and explain every thing well
This Guy is Going To Talk Himself into A Jail Cell 🥴
I dont understand why these laws are not standardized throughout the country so there are no surprises for people traveling from state to state. I would think that would make good sense
“I don’t know law verbatim “ NO! You need to know the law that you are trying to enforce or don’t enforce it!! PERIOD THE END
The only thing a citizen is REQUIRED to do when they are the subject of a traffic stop is the give license, registration, and insurance. They are not legally required to verbalize their address, name, DOB, damn sure not the SSN. The only way that cop could have arrested him was for contempt of cop charge because he got his feelings hurt.
Ohio used to use SSN as your driver's license number,that was bullshit I hated that place because of stupid shit like that, so glad I got the hell out of that ass backwards state.
Wife's identity was stolen because of that.