How The PANDEMIC Almost Crashed A Passenger Jet | TUI 1665
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This is the story of TUI of flight 1665. On the 11th of september 2021 a boeing 737-800 was on the way from palme de majorca to aberdeen international airport. The plane had 67 people and 6 crew members on board. An hour and a half later the pilots were in contact with aberdeen approach, ATC wanted to route the plane so that they would be making a CAT I approach to runway 34 at aberdeen using the ILS. The ILS or the instrument landing system uses radio beams to guide the plane to the foot of the runway. Cat I ils is decently precise but CAT III ILS is so accurate that with the right pilot who is certified in CAT III approaches the pilot can take the plane all the way in without even sighting the runway. The controllers let the pilots know that they might have to go around because on the ground at aberdeen international a helicopter was about to takeoff on a search and rescue mission and once that helicopter was airborne the helicopter would take priority for obvious reasons thus needing flight 1665 to go around. With the possibility of a go around flight 1665 continued with the approach. As the plane intercepted the localizer or the radio beam that helps the plane align itself laterally with the runway the pilots had already prepped the plane to land, the flaps were out the gear was out and all that was now left to do was to fly the approach all the way down to the runway and land. But at 2600 feet the controller wanted the pilots to go around and turn to 270 degrees, the helicopter now took priotrity. So the pilots pushed the engines to max power and the plane started to pick up altitude and speed. In a few seconds the plane went from 2250 feet to 3000 feet but then something strange started to happen the jet started to descend. Now this was the exact opposite of what should be happening at this point this plane was supposed to be climbing away not descending, it is after all a go around. The plane started to drop faster and faster at one point it reached a descent rate of 3100 feet per minute. At those speeds the plane would impact the ground in less than a minute. Thus the pilots did not have a whole lot of time to react. In the tower the approach controller noticed that the plane was losing speed very quickly he or she contacted the radar controller to warn the controller about the developing situation. Now the radar controller acted as fast as possible and told the pilots about what was happening to their plane. In the cockpit the pilots were already working on recovering the plane and with some grunt they did just that, pulling the plane out of the dive. The jet maxed out at 285 knots at the bottom of the dive. Now just for some context at this point they werent supposed to exceed 285 knots during this phase of flight. But thankfully the jet started climbing away to safety. The pilots and all onboard must have been shaken, its not everyday that a passenger jet just noses down for no apparent reason. As they put the plane into a left hand turn they made sure that all the systems were working as they set the plane for another approach. Whatever had happened on attempt number two should not happen on attempt number two. Who knew if they would be able to recover if that happened again. With the controllers help they set up the landing and flight 1665 landed without much issue on runway 34 at aberdeen international airport much to the relief of the 73 people onboard. Before we continue with the video im a little bit curious, we often talk on this channel about accidents and near accidents, but if you were in a situation like this what would you do ? just something to think about. But Now we need to figure out what happened to flight 1665. How did a plane that was climbing away suddenly nose dive and almost end in disaster. The answer as well see started all the way back in 2020. - VÄda a technologie
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these clips are too short as is. adding in program ads is not helping the situation. Is YT messing your revenue up that badly. This trend is very disturbing.
What a Dork sneaking in adds
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@@drmayeda1930 Make your own channel then. You can't change how the world works
Hey can you please make a video on Spanair Flight 5022. It was a totally preventable crash and honestly a very interesting case.
Once in the late 80's I was on an Alaska Airlines flight into SeaTac (727-300). Normally after a little roughness on landing the plane settles down as the reverse thrusters and brakes kick in, but this time it did not. The roughness turned to bouncing and in the plane lights from the back of the plane I could see plants and stuff getting kicked up past the wings. After a small eternity the plane finally skidded to a halt and immediately the cabin filled with smoke. Inside the cabin no one said a word, it was completely silent except for the engines spooling down. One or two passengers near the front stood up and the flight attendants yelled at them to sit down. They immediately complied and it was silent again for about 30 seconds before the captain announced "Evacuate, evacuate, evacuate!". This went really smoothly as well. After helping 19 people out of the back of the plane I looked around in the darkness to see where to go. I saw many people running towards some lights in the distance then saw a plane landing there. I realized they were running towards an active runway. I waited a second or two, when my eyes adjusted I was able to follow the skid marks about 400m back to the runway we had left abruptly. I stood at the edge of the runway, lit a cigarette and said to to myself "Well, they won't land another plane here until they figure out what happened to the last one". Shortly after an army of red lit vehicles approached and herded everyone into a line to count us. It was all pretty quiet and surreal.
Interestingly I know how I react in a situation where something could have gone wrong on a flight, one time I was a passenger literally on the window seat looking at the wing when I saw birds fly straight in to the engine. I literally reacted so calmly, my brain was like "well this flight isn't going to run today". We were early enough in our takeoff roll to just abort the takeoff. Hardly anyone on the plane saw it happen & everyone else seemed a lot more worried once they learnt (even though we were parked by then) than I was literally watching it happen.
I know the feeling. While I havent tried it in a plane, I have had a couple of emergency situations happen to me, and I just go into super calm analytic mode, looking for the optimal solution as quickly as possible. Once was with several ppl involved, and the 1s panicking and screaming and actually getting in the way just annoyed the sh*t out of me!
Tho afterwards when the situation is over, and the adrenalin rush leaves, I start shaking all over, so I can barely hold a glass of water, and my voice is all shaky. Takes like 10-15 minutes to wear off.
But it is a relief to know, how I react in an emergency. I do understand, that all ppl react differently, and nobody really knows, until they have it thrust upon them. So while I find ppl panicking and getting in the way in the situation annoying, I do understand, they cant help their reaction. But I find even more annoying the ppl, who make grand statements about, how THEY would do this and that and whatever, when theyve never faced it.
In my thankfully fairly limited experience, the more selfaggrandizing ppl are about their supposed superior reactions in an emergency, the more theyre actually going to fall completely apart. In that several ppl involved situation, I was once in, there was actually a guy, who had been so full of himself ahead of time, claiming he was like an oracle, the 1 to follow if anything happened (not that we were doing anything remotely likely to get us in an emergency). Well, karma called his bluff, and he was an absolute basket case. And then he had the temerity to deny later, what we all witnessed, claiming he was perfectly calm!
Literally?
That's actually a documented phenomenon. Plane crash survivors walked past rows of older holiday-makers sitting frozen but alive in their seats seemingly calm as Hindu cows while the plane burned around them (can't remember if it was Tenerife or the Hawaii plane that lost a roof). The brain makes a decision whether there's anything worth doing to survive and just accepts the situation if it seems too unimaginable.
Also a personal anecdote: I once was in the back of a taxi, and it crossed a double intersection without yielding. turned to my left just in time to see a utility van in a cloud of smoke slamming its brakes on and sliding towards us almost side-on trying not to hit us. Taxi driver never noticed and I never said anything. Just thought "hmm, that was close."
@@GlennDavey
The Hawaii flight didn't have any fire. So, it was a different incident. There are a number of aircraft that had fires. The worst was a valujet flight that had improperly stored oxygen generators. It was an eyeopener for the NTSB.
I haven't been in a situation quite like that, but I do know how I'd react in potentially hazardous flight circumstances. A few months ago, I was flying into John Wayne airport (SNA), when the pilot announced that their was a problem with the flaps, and they wouldn't extend, necessitating redirecting to Los Angeles International airport (LAX). I felt like I understood the situation from watching this channel--SNA has a very short runway, and no flaps meant a higher landing speed. LAX has much longer runways, so they'd have much more stopping room. The pilot was giving us updates on approach, and mentioned that we'd see the lights of the emergency vehicles next to the runway during landing, and this wasn't cause for alarm. I had already expected this, since I knew they'd be relying on the brakes more, which meant potentially overheating, and the fire crews were there to extinguish any potential fires caused by melting brakes. All in all, I was pretty calm about it. Just knowing the basics of "what's happening" make scary situations less scary. Unknowns are frightening and simply understanding no flaps -> higher landing speed -> longer runway -> more brake usage -> hotter brakes -> emergency crews on standby made the situation less frightening.
The plane landed OK, but the pilot was HARD on the breaks on touchdown. The plane stopped fine, but you could tell the brakes were completely melted and would likely need to be replaced. As we taxied to the gate, every time we braked, the whole plane would shudder, which felt like the warped brake discs like my brother got after taking his Grand Am out on the race track.
Itâs really different when you know whatâs happening and how the pilots are going to respond and why⊠at least when itâs not something thatâs going to doom the plane.
Excellent story...
And airliner brakes are made from carbon-ceramic composites and not steel. Furthermore, the pads themselves are a type of ceramic. The fact that it felt like warped discs means that the friction material is basically gone
My friend was working this flight as crew and she said the descent was so scary
Wow, Did your friend or anyone realise just how close they became to near tragedy đą
As a Québecois, I've never ever heard the brand of French we speak here being labelled as "fancy" until today. Bon apprentissage :)
NYer here, literally 5 hours just straight south of Montreal. I think the only people who hate it are people who speak French from France. I still find it lovely. And whenever I go to La Ronde I can make an ass of myself trying to say in French, âIâm sorry. I donât speak French, do you speak English?â
I donât get why itâs always hated on. Itâs like Spain vs Latin American Spanish. They came from the same source but when you leave people for hundreds of years, it changes.
What really kills me as an English and Spanish speaker, is the fact that Quebec French isnât given the same status as Parisian French. In contrast you can find study materials for either American, British, or Australian English and they have equal status. Even with Spanish where the Real Academia exists, you can still find both Castilian and Latin American Spanish learning materials. Portuguese is the same way too (you can easily get both Brazilian and continental Portuguese materials). Why isnât Quebec French treated with the same respect??
@@nerysghemor5781 it's very nice of you to say, thank you. I guess it's partially because of hundreds of years of cultural repression, but also because we're a pretty small population. Catalonia has the same sort of issue to where it's difficult to be taken seriously internationally as a relatively small sub-national entity with a "strange" language.
@@nerysghemor5781 It reminds me when I picked up a French book in Montreal to learn French at the YMCA and the book was from FRANCE! Je comprends.
@@Bynming I guess with the total lack of regulation over the English language (dictionaries and grammatical standards arenât set by government agencies but by competing private entities in each country), the idea of one nation being right and the others having invalid versions of a language just doesnât compute. The British may joke about âthe Kingâs English,â but even they (as the origin of English) seem to understand they donât get to force their preferences and accent on everyone.
A frequent flyer, I have been on 3 go arounds, unnerving but I know a decent amount about planes to not be shit scared. The second flight however I had no confidence in whoever was flying and was literally praying in my head. The first attempt to land I knew we were going way too fast, way too close to ground and it was windy and we werenât even close to stable yet. It literally felt like we were diving. There definitely must have been something going on in the cockpit. I sat calmly silenced by fear and no control. I could not wait to get on the ground.
Iâve experienced late go-rounds 4 times in my life. One at Duxford (yes) in an Air Uk Fokker 100 as part of their air display, then we went back to Stansted.
One at Alicante due to wind change, one at Shannon due to runway occupancy and the same at JFK 747-400. All of them were epic. What hits you is the landing silence suddenly being interrupted by the enormous roar of the engines and the feeling your bottom is crushing down into your seat!
yeh, worse one i had was when we bounced hard on the tarmac twice and then abandoned it. Circled for about 30 minutes and then came down (hard!) again. fortunately we stayed on the ground this time. Worse thing about it? The fact that I watch too much of this stuff, so I knew that the pilots would be under stress to reconfigure the aircraft to take off again. As we all know this is the time where mistakes happen and that got into my head a little. tried reading for a bit but was kind of bothering me. As you say it was huge g force as it powered up again. Was a rookie pilot, and in my mind they were coming in way too fast so not surprised it was a touch and go.
Flying a plane is like riding a bicycle. Once you learn you never forget.
Just don't lend him your bicycle.
That is not a proper analogy.
This is not about flying a plane -which is as easy as riding a bicycle. This is about taking proper decisions in an out of the ordinary situation in a matter of seconds. This is more like a concert musician who has missed practice for a week. It may sound OK, but you may be slightly out of tempo
@@miquelborotau6321 Lighten up ace. It was a joke.
It was? Get a year off, was it that bad? But a week....
thanks for the upload!
I've been watching your channel since 2020, and seeing a sponsor makes me very happy for you!
Great video. Like all the detail you go into...thank you for uploading and sharing!!đââ€
They won't do that again, I'd happily fly with these guys . I'm glad there's a culture of 'learn from it' over 'fire them'.
Pleased to hear someone with the same thought I've had for a number of years. And I don't just mean in the airline world.
Donât forget if a single channel ILS approach in a 737 the autopilot drops out on pressing TOGA. Auto throttle remains and flight director indicates a pitch up manoeuvre, but basically still needs to be hand flown.
Stabilised at 2,000 feet, why they hit the TOGA lever puzzles me. The pilot flying could simply raised the gear, spooled up to about 50%, then taken a nice gentle turn with the rudder while slowly gaining 10,000 feet and retracting the flaps progressively at the correct speeds. While he concentrated on that dirty word called flying, the pilot monitoring could have concentrated on chatting to ATC in order to get them back lined up with enough distance hit the glide slope at the correct speed.
TOGA is great when you need to abort a landing from about 30 feet, since it performs several actions at once. But in this situation it made more problems than it solved.
CRM was not exactly their strong point either. LOL.
Great educational video!!
Youâre the best đ
Great video. Always very interesting
woah⊠aberdeen is my nearest airport, i hadnât even heard about this until now. iâm so glad everything ended okay.
Wow. That fog and darkness cleared quickly
This was a fantastic description of the analysis behind the causal factors of this incident.
BRAVO, MACI.
Bonjour!
Merci beaucoup!
2:05 PM MST
I was flying into PBC back in May 2023. This was at a time when Popocapetl volcano was very active. Some flights had been cancelled at this airport and on the day I flew it was causing rough air. Im a frequent flyer so Im used to uncomfortable flying conditions. I was sitting in row 1 and beside me was a young man. Shortly before the pilots began preparing for landing, we hit a pocket of bad air. And thats when the people towards the rear started screaming. The young man beside me looked like he'd seen a ghost. He was scared shitless. I said to him its all good we're fine. First time Ive ever heard soooo many people scream on a flight. Everyone applauded after we landedđ
đŹđ§đđŸââïžAm I the only one that repeats "THIS!" at the start of these videos? đ
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This guys videos are so good he finally got a sponsor
Ayy new video just dropped!!!
âTo Aberdeen international airportâ
Oh hey, thatâs my city!
We get a lot of helicopters taking off/landing here every day due to us being the oil capital of Europe, and is decently busy with flights, mostly from England, Scotland, the Scottish flights are mostly to/from Shetland (oil industry again), and Norway (also oil!). Most activity youâll see during the day is helicopters!
Sometimes Iâll be watching flight radars and see a plane doing a go around and I often wonder if thereâs been some issue, or if theyâll end up on your channel. Only seen a few emergency 7700 squawks this year, a couple for Aberdeen was a flight and a helo, wish I could remember the details!
What would I do? Well I would hope I packed a change of underwear in my carry on bag for startersâŠđ
It sounds like the pilots did what was needed once the unexpected happened. They flew the plane, stabilized what was going on and made a safe landing without further incident. And you get their confusion about the higher altitude go around mode. If itâs not something that gets trained in the simulator, nor is it something prone to come up in real life much, itâs at best a few lines in a dry manual somewhere.
For all of you folks that applaud after landing, this is an example of when it's appropriate to applaud...
If I was in situation like this as a passenger, I would shit my pants, simpleđđđđ
MINI!!!!
seams to be exactly the same happened on Lion Air and Etiopian but when they where taking off but the pilots there could not manage the situation ...
when I first saw the title I thought that the pilots caught covid
Same
Please make a video on the aerosucre crash on Puerto Carreño (Colombia) I'm sure you will have a lot to comment on. (If you need/want I can help to translate the final report from spanish)
That would be amazing drop me an email miniaciyt@gmail.com
I was on a go around on BA coming into land in Tirana last May. It did scare the sh*t out of me as it understandably took a while for the pilot to come on and explain (another plane on runway). Made me glad to be on BA and it seems on an Airbus.
I have just phoned tui this morning to change my abz-pmi pmi-abz holiday....
Reminds me of Rostov fly Dubai accident. Somatosensory illusion
As an edit to all airbus pilots, the changes reg ga are as follows for those who donât know this,all difference
Pf: set thr lvl to toga, establish 15 deg, and then call GA Flaps
PM: first checks flight parameters first as many are worried about a baulked landing(change), then flaps 1 notch up and monitor fma and positive climb gear up. If it doesnât add up, pls let me know if you think otherwise as it would help me update my knowledge too. Too many changes :(
ATC performed very well.
Especially with the need to relay from one ATC through the other. I hope they got commended for their quick reactions.
I notice you also got that twitchy shadow bug (9:20 ish) glad I'm not the only one... Annoys the heck out of me.
Air France 447 the FO induced a stall all the way down from 35000ft. Piloting 101 is recovery from a power on stall, very preventable.
watch that topic on AF447 in Mentour Pilot videos. Somehow FO Bonin act is understandable if we connect it with simulator test/practice done by AF at that time.
I'd be screaming "YEEEEE HAAAAAW!"
I was thinking it was the issue of if you dont hit the toga switches then the plane tries to land.
11september 2021 đź 20 years later
If the captain were manually flying the plane, he should have had the ADI prominently in his scan (especially in IMC), so I don't understand how he could have allowed the plane to pitch down so much.
What would I do if I were ever in a situation like that? Hell, I wouldn't even know it was happening. I take so much Xanax before I fly, I can barely walk off the plane when we reach our destination. đ€·đ»
"The Goron button," says the caption. đ
Nice video thanks! The new visuals really bring these to life. My question is: why dont they design the "TOGA" system to be TOTALLY automatic? Where the pilot can press the switch and go hands off. The flight computers take care of the climb and the the nose attitude when engines at full power etc. The automatics then level the plane at the ATC alt. If this happened on Embraer 195 or A320 would the automatics have reacted differently?
I think it's worth a mention that most airlines have a minimum number of hours and "flight cycles" to be flown by pilots to stay sharp on the job, AND if I recall correctly, most countries even adopted such a policy JUST for keeping a legitimate commercial pilot's license...
By "flight cycles" I'm talking about a prescribed take-off AND landing. I seem to remember it from Mentour Pilot (channel on YT regarding Commercial Aviation including, AND BEYOND aviation accidents and disasters) ...
Basically, to keep a commercial license to fly, you're required to have at least one take-off and one landing every 90 days or so... This is besides the check-flights and simulators and other drills and inspections that airlines put pilots through... Mostly (I think) because many of those aren't entirely necessary except for certain conditions, like a near miss or when a pilot's looking to bust Cap'n... or something like that... BUT on the job, they're ALL supposed to get that one take-off and landing within about 90 days (3 months/1 quarter) to practice and stay sharp.
SO because of Covid, and grounding so many planes and flight crews, there was a sudden SHORTAGE of legal commercial pilots when the aviation industry started trying to rumble to life again. A lot of student pilots who had been trying to get their hours or just get a license to begin the path to a commercial career had already sunk themselves into horrendous debt and no end in sight, so they dropped out and left "the dream" as it were on top of classes canceled and such... THIS led to airlines AND officials finding new ways to waive or grandfather some of the remaining pilots back onto the job, regardless of their flight cycles and hours at the yoke... AND near misses happened from the lack of "edge" on some of them...
Some are going to get lucky, and nothing happens... probably a majority. Aviation incidents are low for reasons EXACTLY LIKE Pilots being so well trained at their jobs. BUT even a 1-in-10,000 chance has to surface somewhere in a million flights a day... Someone's GOING to win that lottery.
As to what I'd probably do in that situation as a passenger? Brace for impact and hope for the best... There isn't much you can do that's going to do any relevant good. Make your peace with death... it comes for us all sooner or later... Where I can, as long as it's coming anyway (no matter what the f*ck I do) I might as well die trying like hell not to... BUT where I can't, either I'm good with it or I might as well GET GOOD with it. ;o)
Main thing is they didn't crash or break anything so well done on that. Interesting point about being rusty due to pandemic which just goes to show that pilots need to stay sharp and airlines need to have good safety culture. Thanks for your excellent videos.
I really enjoy your discussions of near accidents, simply because the content goes beyond the usual level of speculation. Though it might be difficult to get hold of the official reports of such investigations, the root cause for most incidents appears to be pilot error. Pilot error immediately followed by an adequate response and recovery, perhaps? After all the ability to have an interrogation with the pilots is the most valuable resource to investigatorsâŠ
Would you like to hear requests/suggestions about specifically *older* cases as well? :)
I can safely say that if 99% of viewers were in the same situation, they would pitch their body down towards the ground, level it once it touched the ground, then cry alotđ
âHow pandemic restrictions almost crashed a planeâ fixed it for you
Well, it does sound as though without the warning from air traffic control the pilots might not have realised quickly enough their problem, so yes, it might have crashed
Aa very good analysis, as Ppl pilot, I have never flown either a late jet aeroplane, nor used one of the simulations assigned to ATPL pilot training etc. certainly a person may get a little ârustyâ after a period of not flying, but in my case it really only means that nmy first couple of landings are a bit shoddy for my liking. However, I also would like to point out that the B 737 is an airframe which has been re-configured and upgraded time after time, though the basic fuselage & wing structure still retain the characteristics of the B707 which has changed little since the 1950s. The company keeps on slinging larger and larger engines under the wing - however in the later models these have to be held to opylons considerably forward of the leading edge of the wings, so they wonât strike the ground. Some pilots feel that this changes the COG & the.flying characteristics, Boeing have largely solved most issues using tech solutions, but not (in some pilotâs opinion)satisfactorily.
This simulator video on the background is, well⊠lets say funny. At 07:30 and 10:00 the airplane has a dual engine failure, but somehow like magic it doesnât sink or loose speed and makes a nice approach đđźâŠâŠâŠâŠ
The landing gear lever is in the up position but hey gear is still down đ đ
4:58 Whether the plane crashed or landed safely, I would already have had an "accident."
FA: "Captain, get us on the ground NOW! We've got a CODE BROWN in every seat."
Captain: "We have a code brown in the cockpit as well."
Pilots saved the plane aptly though the situation worsened by the second!
Out of practice, yes, but they saved their aircraft in the end. I donât know how they could have avoided being out of practice if their employer controls the simulator and flights. As far what I would have done? Dunno Iâm not a pilot. My best guess at the time would have been to disable the autopilot, go TOGA and perform the terrain escape manoeuvre. I wasnât far off.
The somatic responses are ever present for all of us, Is that not exactly why instruments are aboard aircraft and must be referenced? Even when I have flown gliders in perfect visibility, I remain aware of my instrument panel for slip & angle data, so while i am down there I see everything.
I blame Boring that go around button shouldn't have so many modes.
You may have hit on the solution? Pilots who have not performed a go around under both hi-lo conditions within 12 months should have mandatory simulator time. This may also be worthwhile for many other emergency scenarios, of course. The cost of safety is much lower than that of fatalities.
Pilots are checked in the simulator every 6 months and for several days at a time. Go arounds are part of that check, but it is impossible to check everything and every scenario.
@@battyjoe Yes, I expect that you are being more realistic.
Only 67 ?! Damn.
This is called a soft go around. Airlines are just now adding them to the training.
3:37 loosing altitude
Good catch. This confused me too.
Because of sheer size and momentum, all you have to plan first which way to go. There is not much room to change travel path every minute; what you can probably do when driving a car aggressively.
Every time I hear or see the name Tui I think of our native bird of the same name.
It also known as the minister bird because of the white under its neck
Yes, audio is too low. We can adjust down, we can't adjust up.
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Nah this date be dodgy as hell đ
Awesome channel. Are you worried that you will ever run out of near misses for video content or are we safe for a while yet?
Were good for a while
If this channel ever runs out of accidents and near-misses with commercial aviation, there's always general aviation, and that'll keep them busy for a LONG time. About a year ago, there was like a month with an incident a day--that's like 6 months of content for this channel, and that was just one month.
Speaking of near-misses... ain't there a trio of on-ground/approach issues coming up after their final reports come out?
Don't you think it might be nice if he did run out? đ
I still think a third flightdeck crew member would help a lot more.
History proves you wrong. Remember for example Turkish Airlines at Schipol, and the 767 freighter in Texas. .
@@FutureSystem738 those were caused by poor CRM, if I remember correctly.
@@kommandantgalileo Firstly, there is never ONE cause.
Secondly, a third pilot on the flight deck made NO difference. There are absolutely numerous other crashes that have happened with three crew on the flight deck, and far too numerous to mention here.
@@FutureSystem738 but there are just as much aviation incidents that have benefited from more crew members.
First I hear of too much rest, usually its too tired from too much flying.
5:36 where's the link to 3549
Why the difference above/below 2000 feet? Obviously, if you're above 3000 feet, you don't want to descend on a go-around. Having a consistent end result would have prevented this. Like:
Below 3000 feet, apply go-around power, climb to 3000 feet and maintain altitude.
Above 3000 feet, apply go-around power and maintain altitude.
Notice how both cases end with, "maintain altitude."
He did a mistake. These numbers are not altitudes, they are vertical speeds. So one push of toga results in a climb with 1000-2000ft/min.
â@Hayrullah Ceylan Go to 6:40 and look again.
Good breakdown but who else expected it to be the pilot suddenly getting badly ill like in a movie
If I were in a situation like this, I would simply die.
Meaning as a pilot or passenger, and what exactly would cause you to die from the incident? You mean feeling the plane suddenly diving? Thanks.
that looks like a typical MCAS problem to me.....
UmâŠâŠ.. Iâm flying on tui on Sunday from heraclian Crete to Manchester England đŽó §ó ąó „ó źó §ó ż đŹđ·
Audio is quite low on this mate.
and still people criticize Airbus for having an "intransparent degree of automatization"
The video in your ad is way too long.
.... and also landing a plane with one wing tip missing (see animation at end)
Anything can end in disaster given the right circumstances, these guys just so happened to have more of those bad circumstances but get out of it
How does a captain 'manually flying the plane' not notice his nose has dropped and he's flying into the ground? It'd be like 'manually driving a car' and not noticing you're swerving right into a crash barrier.
Surprisingly easily. Try driving but in 3 dimensions, with no visual guidance cues from outside and the feeling in your gut telling you the car is half way into a backflip. And trying to coordinate unusual configuration changes with the aircraft, the other pilot(s) and air traffic control expectations⊠youâll be sailing into the cumulo-granite before you know it. The autopilot is absolutely crucial in most of these situations. How many people have been killed, driving on a straight piece of road right into the path of an oncoming lorry?
Also, the pilot wasn't manually flying the plane. He thought the AP was going to climb to 3000 and maintain altitude.
Also, the reduction in power at the top may have masked the feeling of the nose pitching down.
11th September bruh
Somatogravic illusions become very useful with regard to flight simulators for the industry.
Explain? Thank you.
Isnât that Rather difficult to replicate in a simulator?
Yes, interesting comment about SGIâs - could you tell us what you mean about SGI in flight simulators? Thank you.
@@richardjohnson455 Industry simulators give the illusion and âfeelâ of flight by tilting in various ways to essentially fool the trainee. An example would be the simulator tilting backwards such that it feels as if one is accelerating down a runway.
Why the volume is so low ?.
The were above 2000 feet why are they even pressing go around. All they had to do was manually input a altitude change increase speed and flaps 15
Anyone who knows anything about UX design knows that having an infrequently pressed button react differently depending on conditions is a stupid idea to begin with.
What was the date of this happening
Half empty 2 engined plane, very aggressive attitude after take off. My thoughts were, oh pilot is gunning it somewhat. Then the classic pop pop bang of a compressor stall. I had a clear few of the engine & that was indeed what it looked like.
My comment was oh its nothing to worry about, pilot just needs to dial it back a bit, push the nose down slightly. Which is of course exactly what he did. Watching all these investigations is very calming!
Murphy was an optimist.
Ah yes, O'Toole's Law.
Do investigations on recent accident of Yeti Airline At Pokhara , Nepal
Not exactly 20 years after 9/11 like...
Pleaseeee fix / normalize your audio levels. Commercials = blown speakers after cranking the volume to hear your regular video. Also, please donât throw commercials immediately after finishing your sponsor clip⊠kinda a fâyou to viewers.
Hi Alex, I cannot explain why you experienced what you did. However, my own experience was smooth. I have not gotten any commercials after the sponsor clip.
I have this problem also. The volume for the actual video is suuuuuper quiet compared to everything else.
Sometimes it's the video sound level, sometimes it's particular commercials. Creators don't get to select what ads CZcams pushes to individual viewers.
Strangely enough, I did not get a commercial after the sponsorship read in this video.
@@mbryson2899 the ads all have a somewhat normalized audio level; the same issue occurred when I went back to other CZcams content - but yes, certain ads are unusually loud.
The performance of this plane is counter-intuitive to flying any normal aircraft.
Interesting story and channel,
but my OCD is screaming that the cockpit view in the sim is nothing like the narration and story at any point!
Dude, nice vid and appreciate your effort. Just a slight hint: Do not start immediately with the sponsor, take your time and put it more in the center video section, otherwise, the attention span already decreases at the start. At least, that was the case during my watch time. It triggered me a bit, to be honest. But I am saying that as an personal opinion and suggestion, it is up to you, how you proceed. Greetings from Germany :)
5:30 âAtlas Air Flight 3549â bud I think itâs 3591 not 3549
Just take it off AP and fly it manually to go around what the hell