GPU Deshroud Mod - Mindblowing Thermal Improvement

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  • @optimumtech
    @optimumtech  Před 3 lety +477

    For those asking - of course the "stock" measurement was done after fixing the mounting fault.
    Otherwise we'd have no idea how much of the thermal improvement was due to de-shrouding versus the tighter mounting.
    The footage you see from 3:29 was when I first realized how bad the problem was - so I fixed it, installed the original shroud and fans, and re-tested it to give us the "stock" / before de-shrouding measurement.

    • @ZangetzoMTSGameSpot
      @ZangetzoMTSGameSpot Před 3 lety +3

      Thanks! You should add some EU links too sometime! ;P
      Keep up the good work love what you do around here! Cheers from Portugal!

    • @piotrkozowski4230
      @piotrkozowski4230 Před 3 lety +3

      U should do a vid about deshrouding rx 5700xt red dragon in ghost s1 + 2 new slim noctua fans (sterrox 120mm ones)

    • @OugaBoogaShockwave
      @OugaBoogaShockwave Před 3 lety

      i am running gtx 970 so this doesn't help me much BUT i think i can get away with doing a mod like it but i'll lose my SLi set up.
      Am running my rig longer then usual waiting to build a new PC but this may be a option when considering doing Some OC, i generally don't like to OC but having 2 cards & sli not being used much these days opens up possibilities.
      THX dude !

    • @ignaciojuarez2327
      @ignaciojuarez2327 Před 3 lety

      please review the steck nouvolo, i really want a ghost s1 or a T1 but they are imposible to find.

    • @lazy5877
      @lazy5877 Před 3 lety +1

      I did this with my GTX 560Ti many years ago. On my current card there is a warranty sticker so I will do it when warranty ends.

  • @Quazetiq
    @Quazetiq Před 3 lety +493

    I figured this video would be coming after the huge amount of de-shrouded systems in the last ITX systems showcase. Great work yet again, the quality of these videos never dissapoints.

    • @user-xm5to8dt6q
      @user-xm5to8dt6q Před 3 lety +1

      Yes, I just modified my asus strix 2080ti in my ncase m1 after watching this video

    • @ruslan_yefimov
      @ruslan_yefimov Před rokem

      After seeing this, I've started doubting whether waterblock is even necessary at all :D

  • @Arek_R.
    @Arek_R. Před 3 lety +1440

    No wonder results are solid when every GPU manufacturer blocks all the heatsink with plastic and RGB...

    • @Arek_R.
      @Arek_R. Před 3 lety +73

      Also one of the selling points for which I chose strix version of 2080Ti was that extra fan headers.
      But it's quite useless.
      It's 4 pin yet has DC control and no way to change it, so if you have RGB fans you get them turned off, also they have quite crappy control logic, by default it's something where it's off until temperature reaches 60*C and it goes right to 100%
      Theoretically you can change it in asus' GPU tweak software but it's garbage and it doesn't save profile on GPU, so if you restart the PC it goes away, even if you run the software on startup it still doesn't update those settings.

    • @gabo007x1
      @gabo007x1 Před 3 lety +69

      If you use shitty rgb fans for a deshroud mod you might as well not bother at all, though lmao

    • @ivchatov
      @ivchatov Před 3 lety +9

      Arek R. Yeah, that’s why I just leave the GPU headers empty and control the fans under the GPU via motherboard. I use FanControl, very basic and doesn’t even have a startup at boot option, but it’s really intuitive and just works.

    • @Arek_R.
      @Arek_R. Před 3 lety +4

      @@gabo007x1 I didn't deshroud it and I use blue led fans not RGB ones...

    • @heni63
      @heni63 Před 3 lety +2

      @@ivchatovyou need to make a desktop shortcut and put this shortcut into: win+R, type "shell: startup"

  • @robl5027
    @robl5027 Před 3 lety +148

    A 4 dBA *and* 20°C drop is immense, that's a great approach to making a whisper quiet system.

  • @albin3399
    @albin3399 Před 3 lety +201

    GPU board partners really should be making a heatsink design that allows for customers to add their own fans. Similar to how the raijintek morpheus fans are attached.

    • @illietw
      @illietw Před 3 lety +49

      or just partner with Noctua or Arctic and add some good fans to their design

    • @gabo007x1
      @gabo007x1 Před 3 lety +6

      @@illietw As if GPUs weren't epxensive enough already. Besides, if your airflow isn't complete ass and you buy a good model, temps and noise will be excellent. In my Inwin A1 I run two fans as intakes below my unmodded Strix 2070 Super and the GPU fans never turn on.

    • @silmupelaa6349
      @silmupelaa6349 Před 3 lety +33

      @@gabo007x1 I gues you never play anything?

    • @GoetheNorris
      @GoetheNorris Před 3 lety +1

      Morpheus II still best upgrade ever ! 2GHz 1080ti 80C max (edit. under 1000rpm avg. 500 w/ noctua nf-a12 and low noise adapters)

    • @HYDRAdude
      @HYDRAdude Před 3 lety

      If you are going through all the effort to buy an after market cooler for your GPU then why not get an AIO cooler?

  • @jsharp9735
    @jsharp9735 Před 3 lety +637

    They need to start selling GPU with just heat sinks with no fans, so we can use our own.

    • @superbanana1784
      @superbanana1784 Před 3 lety +128

      + provide normal fan headers 🥰

    • @SalvoDan
      @SalvoDan Před 3 lety +35

      Or with a socket for a AIO water cooler, like the NXZT G12, but covering the other components too.
      Why don’t NZXT make their own graphics cards? They make their own Motherboards.

    • @jsharp9735
      @jsharp9735 Před 3 lety +4

      @@superbanana1784 Yes, but I used the pwm to mini pwm fan cable when I used my morpheus.

    • @NonsensicalSpudz
      @NonsensicalSpudz Před 3 lety

      @@Neiva71 making a product does not factor the people who work the line, into its cost to make

    • @daemonbyte
      @daemonbyte Před 3 lety +2

      Or one of them could just do this themselves? They'd get the fans much cheaper and let's face it, plenty of people will pay and extra $30 if they can get this kind of performance boost

  • @cityofplant
    @cityofplant Před 3 lety +106

    I wish all manufacturer uses 120mm fan. They could get away with a thinner heatsinks. Imagine a GPU that makes universal brackets for us to change the fan to any fans we want.

    • @Excal111
      @Excal111 Před 3 lety +7

      Honestly I would love that. I'm running a PowerColor Red Dragon 5700XT and to keep the thermals in check (below 80C TJunc in my preference) I have a very aggressive fan curve meaning during games my GPU fans regularly reach 1800-2100rpm and can spike up to 2400. Fortunately I can have my PC a decent distance away, about 4 feet (~120cm), so the noise isn't terrible.

    • @NoAlias_
      @NoAlias_ Před 3 lety +4

      There a Fan Clips that work with most gpu´s, adding 120mm fans is pretty easy

  • @EnnTomi1
    @EnnTomi1 Před 3 lety +492

    Now the last enemy in the mist: coil whine

    • @eSeniri
      @eSeniri Před 3 lety +106

      Man I will never understand coil whine. Modern Warfare: fans spin up and system is overall a little louder than most games I play, but no whine. World of Warcraft: fans near silent, but piercing coil whine.

    • @DJHEADPHONENINJA
      @DJHEADPHONENINJA Před 3 lety +38

      @@eSeniri it's because WoW is pushing higher framerates. Higher framerates, more coilwhine.

    • @Caution40404
      @Caution40404 Před 3 lety +21

      @@DJHEADPHONENINJA So wrong. I've had different games with the same high FPS, yet some of them produce way more coil whine. It cannot be explained.

    • @lagynas
      @lagynas Před 3 lety +12

      Vega 56 owner: what whine?

    • @Miguel-jm2pf
      @Miguel-jm2pf Před 3 lety +21

      I’m pretty sure it just directly correlates with how much wattage the card is using, could be wrong tho

  • @MrMaxABuck
    @MrMaxABuck Před 3 lety +22

    I did something similar to a GTX 1080 Strix while I waited for replacement stock fans. I was amazed at how much better 2x120mm case fans were vs stock fans. Of course, cable ties were used.

  • @achilleaustin4477
    @achilleaustin4477 Před 3 lety +17

    Really can't believe you only have 342k subscribers, your production quality is insane and your videos are always great to watch. Plus, you're an Aussie not another American. Keep up the good work mate, you're one of the best tech youtubers I know of.

  • @mrethantheb
    @mrethantheb Před 4 měsíci +2

    Dang going back and watching this, you've improved so much as a presenter. You seem far more confident in your more recent content. Here it's clear you weren't quite as comfortable. Your voice is actually different here too. Not that this was "bad", you've just become even better.

  • @WhatAThingThisIs
    @WhatAThingThisIs Před 3 lety

    Just wanted to say that your previous video with the NCase M1 + Accelero III mod helped my M1 build's thermals massively! Came back to check up on your channel and your improvements in the last 2 years with video quality and testing details is amazing. Subbed and looking forward to watching your channel grow. Much love from a fellow Aussie.

  • @jomac_ph
    @jomac_ph Před 3 lety +31

    I hope that board partners can release deshroud friendly design for the upcoming GPUs. I'd be trying this on some old GPUs I have around for the mean time. Thanks for the upload!

  • @crazyforcs
    @crazyforcs Před 3 lety +265

    Did you test the original Strix after you changed the long screws to short screws? I feel like some of the improvement is coming from that alone.

    • @optimumtech
      @optimumtech  Před 3 lety +117

      Yes of course. The "Stock" measurement was after changing to the shorter screws.

    • @tylerm.9408
      @tylerm.9408 Před 3 lety +12

      @@optimumtech Way to think ahead! That’s awesome 👏

  • @ajmatt
    @ajmatt Před 3 lety +13

    I would love to see the deshroud mod with other manufacturers like msi, zotac etc. and see a comparison. Been waiting for this video for a while, and thank you for the informative videos!

  • @funknugget6334
    @funknugget6334 Před 3 lety +69

    Ali, you should definitely do an SFF news series weekly or bi-weekly or even monthly. It would definitely be a good watch for beginners and enthusiasts alike.

  • @Hyper1555
    @Hyper1555 Před 3 lety +4

    Some adjustments to your video since I deshrouded my strix rx 5700xt myself:
    -Asus uses a strange 7 pin sort of fan splitting header. The mini 4 pin you mention is for the rgb on the shroud. I tried to figure out which wires I needed to make a 4 pin pwm signal for the fans, but the fans wouldn't spin. You have to use the Asus software, but that doesn't allow much of an undervolt. I settled on argus monitor and put the fans on the AIO pump header on the mobo. Perfect solution!
    - you HAVE to bend the tabs on the shroud and you have to bend them pretty far for certain fans in order to fit the fans and not get the tabs in the fan blades. Even if you do it carefully, you will damage the heatsink a bit and will probably void warranty if they need to take the shroud off.

    • @rolexrolex095
      @rolexrolex095 Před 3 lety

      I did the wiring on my 5700xt nitro+ with the help of this diagram imgur.com/jsaWdDj. Although he made some errors in the diagram.
      I know it is 8 pin instead of 7 pin that you have, but maybe it helps you.

  • @MrYamazaky
    @MrYamazaky Před 3 lety +14

    Lool the timing! I was just searching "how to gpu notcua mod" this morning for a possible NR200 bulid and now you upload this!

    • @khorajin8320
      @khorajin8320 Před 3 lety +1

      Is it possible to do this in a N200?

    • @MrYamazaky
      @MrYamazaky Před 3 lety

      @@khorajin8320 I meant the NR200, ups fixed

    • @khorajin8320
      @khorajin8320 Před 3 lety

      AlmostGenius no Problem i mean the same ;) looking forward to build me an itx Gaming pc, dont want a custom loop, but this Solution were awesome

    • @superbanana1784
      @superbanana1784 Před 3 lety

      Khorajin also curious! Mine gets here Wednesday.

    • @warmachine5835
      @warmachine5835 Před 3 lety

      He's been on a roll with these lately for me. The double radiator and IceMan pump-res combo videos came out right as I was finishing the CPU side of my double rad build and the same day as my IceMan came in the mail.

  • @rustho
    @rustho Před 3 lety +1

    I watched you from the start...and I have to give you credit for evolving so beautifully..you are by far my favourite youtuber. Thank you for your humbleness and objectivity..keep it up. Greetings from Berlin

  • @mattiaricci910
    @mattiaricci910 Před 3 lety +2

    I'm a new subscriber to the channel and i absolutely love the production quality of your videos man! I'm thinking about building my first PC as i feel inspired by your videos. Keep up the great work!

  • @Leonsimages
    @Leonsimages Před 3 lety +196

    If you use a dremel to remove those brackets *please* remove the cooler from the PCB before doing so, otherwise you'll risk cracking the die and killing your GPU!!!

    • @itIsI988
      @itIsI988 Před 3 lety +89

      I'd be more worried about metal shavings getting on the PCB and shorting something.

    • @BatteryAz1z
      @BatteryAz1z Před 3 lety +23

      it's easier to just use a pipe wrench and bend them off.

    • @alabaska182
      @alabaska182 Před 3 lety +33

      @@BatteryAz1z My side cutters cut through those brackets like butter, quick snip and you're done.

    • @PinataOblongata
      @PinataOblongata Před 3 lety +4

      @@alabaska182 I've even cut metal like that (to make a SSD mounting bay) with cheap kitchen chicken shears with great results, funnily enough. Started off using full-on angle-grinder then tried it and wished I had used them from the start.

    • @alabaska182
      @alabaska182 Před 3 lety

      @@PinataOblongata Lol yeah it doesn't take much that's for sure!

  • @jasper4574
    @jasper4574 Před 3 lety +15

    love the noise level graphs compared to the temp graphs.... as someone very concious of noise this is very useful to see!

  • @ThisRandomUsername
    @ThisRandomUsername Před 3 lety +2

    Very interesting. Thanks for doing the comparison with both the exhaust and intake config. I'm sure your other components appreciate you dumping the hot air right out of the case as well.
    One thing I've always wanted to do was to duct the exhausts from the GPU out to the back of my case, but it's a little too cramped to do that at the mainboard. This seems like a much better idea.

  • @stylist_bitter6194
    @stylist_bitter6194 Před 3 lety +1

    Entertaining and informative as always. Even when the topic doesn't remotely apply to me, the camera work alone is enough to make me watch.

  • @KasperLidegaard
    @KasperLidegaard Před 3 lety +6

    I'm looking forward to part two of this video recommending cards for ncase m1 with deshroudimg in mind.
    Keep it up the good work!!

  • @eender202
    @eender202 Před 3 lety +5

    Great video! One suggestion : I would love to see text in the video, this way it would be way easier to identify which fan/cooler or which items we are looking at.

  • @carlosaloysiusaquino1482
    @carlosaloysiusaquino1482 Před 3 lety +1

    Your videos have really been insightful. Especially these videos regarding thermals.
    Excited to try out this mod with the Silverstone RVZ01-E and the ROG Strix 2070 super. Going to be using a pair of Arctic P12s. The fans have a gap of a few cm between the heatsink, so it would be interesting to see the performance difference if any.

  • @Slamraptor
    @Slamraptor Před 3 lety

    Nice clean look! I've been deshrouding my cards for a decade now. ^^
    I use a PCI bracket for fan mounting in my midi case.

  • @Pestilaence
    @Pestilaence Před 3 lety +7

    I did this with my Zotac 1080Ti mini, forever ago, by rewiring the existing fan connector to add in two 90mm Noctua fans. I also swapped the thermal paste for Grizzly Conductonaut. The card is SUPER quiet now, and still performs great!

    • @heroictesticles6870
      @heroictesticles6870 Před 3 lety

      ''forever ago'' Are you a 15 year old girl? You type like one.

    • @Pestilaence
      @Pestilaence Před 3 lety

      @@heroictesticles6870 Is that the best comment you can come up with, as a keyboard warrior? Grow up.

    • @heroictesticles6870
      @heroictesticles6870 Před 3 lety

      @@Pestilaence Appears to be you who needs to grow up with your ''forever'' comments. How's your hair this morning, sweetie?

    • @lynx5327
      @lynx5327 Před 3 lety

      @@heroictesticles6870 no need to insult someone for a miniscule thing

  • @DanielNavas1
    @DanielNavas1 Před 3 lety +222

    When do we get an Optimum Tech upper body workout? I think that's what the people really want

    • @kickazzdrummer666
      @kickazzdrummer666 Před 3 lety +14

      gaaaaayyyy...

    • @Shieftain
      @Shieftain Před 3 lety +64

      @@kickazzdrummer666 Has it occurred to you that maybe he's just interested in Ali's routine so that he can make gains himself?

    • @cre8tivexchange
      @cre8tivexchange Před 3 lety +57

      @@kickazzdrummer666 A little insecure are we? Good blood flow helps the brain and other extremities.

    • @beanboy9029
      @beanboy9029 Před 3 lety +1

      @@kickazzdrummer666 hurr durr

    • @evertonc1448
      @evertonc1448 Před 3 lety +2

      @@kickazzdrummer666 MC Donald's, I'm loving it!

  • @Kippy8472
    @Kippy8472 Před 3 lety

    I honestly was not expecting such a dramatic difference. Good video Ali. Seriously eyeing off my gpu and contemplating doing the same thing.

  • @chriss.3335
    @chriss.3335 Před 3 lety

    Hey mate, thanks for the video. Just a couple of days before this video, I did a deshroud of the Saphire Pulse 5700XT for my newest NCASE M1 v6.1 build. It was super easy and super effective. I could take off the shroud with only 5 screws and it was just the almost flat heat pipe uncovered. I have the NCASE M1, i9-10900k, AiO Arctic Freezer 240mm II, AsRock Phantom Gaming Z490 ITX/TB3, 2x Noctua NF-A12x25 Bottom Fans, 1x Noctua AF-9 PWM Chromax Intake Fan and 2x Noctua NF-F12 Chromax as exhaust in the side panel replacing the Arctic P12 fans on the AiO. Super happy with this setup. Idle 33db, Load 37db. The GPU is set to Automatic-Undervolt and fans spinning at 1500rpm max. It is so silent, that I don't even consider to put the GPU on water-cooling as well. See pictures here: imgur.com/gallery/MkenaZv

  • @anthonycoffey816
    @anthonycoffey816 Před 3 lety +8

    This is the kinda stuff I love, minimally evasive tinkering for sweet performance increases 😁

  • @ariansanders5140
    @ariansanders5140 Před 3 lety +84

    Did you replace those screws before running the test with the shroud? if not that could play a big factor in the more extreme temp differences.

  • @edmundyung
    @edmundyung Před 3 lety

    Thanks for the video, appreciate the VRM temperature bench!
    I've upgraded from 980Ti cooled by Acceelero Extreme III to a Strix 1080 Ti and had it deshroud on the first day. I don't need to flatten any tab for the 1080 Ti in my Ncase M1.

  • @blueridge8992
    @blueridge8992 Před 3 lety +1

    Man you are pushing the SFF space (and PC building in general) forward with every other video these days. Really appreciate what you’re doing. Did you come up with this particular idea?

  • @jjoke5014
    @jjoke5014 Před 3 lety +16

    For the few who read this: You can totally use this in any case! You just need to either use zip ties or bent wire to secure the fans directly to the card.
    Perhaps not the most elegant solution, but we’ll worth it in my opinion!

    • @archer9338
      @archer9338 Před 3 lety +4

      Looks like a great project for a 3D printer.

    • @Gigaamped
      @Gigaamped Před 3 lety

      Other than virtually every sandwhich layout case I can think of but correct me if I'm wrong. For example, there's not enough space for a 25mm thick fan on a gpu in the Dan A4 from the looks of it.

    • @jerrytrainer5086
      @jerrytrainer5086 Před 3 lety +1

      You can also use things like PCIE slot fan bracket mounts and just mount it a slot below the card

  • @Sim2Real.
    @Sim2Real. Před 3 lety +13

    This is an awesome mod, specially if you blew your budget or are just saving for watercooling. I would rather do this than to watercool!

  • @RetroTinkerer
    @RetroTinkerer Před 3 lety

    I believe you are the first one I see doing these tests, that's exactly the kind of thing I do everytime my GPU fans stop working on my retro systems and is what I recommend my friends to lower the noise and improve temps.

  • @sdleasia
    @sdleasia Před 2 lety

    I just literally built a white NR200 partially based on this video. Placing my power supply on the side, like here, made everything fit much better. (NR200, C14S bottom fan, 5600x, CM-V750 SFX, 1080 ti). Your build videos are awesome!

  • @boban250
    @boban250 Před 3 lety +3

    With this 5700 deshrouding would also allow for a BIOS mod, getting you on par with a 5700XT since the OC would still be in good temps

  • @Smoozable
    @Smoozable Před 3 lety +4

    I did this mod with my 5700xt
    Do not expect much in case of temp reduction maybe 3 to 4 °c
    But noise reduction was a huge improvement even with fans at 100% barely audible

  • @SamZ
    @SamZ Před 3 lety

    Dang, I had no idea this sort of thing was even possible but it makes perfect sense! Love this! Might do it someday!

  • @MrLincoln87
    @MrLincoln87 Před 3 lety +1

    Your fitment game is always on point, very tight

  • @TehPandaShogun
    @TehPandaShogun Před 3 lety +4

    Well of course it's good, it's turning it into a 4-slot cooler. :^U
    But yeah, definitely going to try this in my next build. Now if only there was a place where people could share which cards need minimal work to make this work.
    Or we can ask the board partners to provide DIY variants with thicc, flat heatsinks.

  • @VelcroSnake93
    @VelcroSnake93 Před 3 lety +3

    I do this with my NCASE M1 v6.1, Strix 1080 Ti and NF-A12x25's. Works fantastic. My concern is when I want to upgrade my GPU to one of the new ones coming out, making sure I can find one that I can do the same thing with.

    • @un-for-given
      @un-for-given Před 3 lety

      I have a 2080 Ti STRIX. How can I make sure my 4 pin connectors work?

  • @OugaBoogaShockwave
    @OugaBoogaShockwave Před 3 lety +1

    i like this channel, you don't seem over the top or full of yourself being popular like some do once they hit a certain amount of followers !

  • @edwardnoble9897
    @edwardnoble9897 Před 3 lety

    Badass! Thanks so much for these videos. Starting to plan my next build. Just bought the NCase M1 and planning a 5950x + Strix 3080, so curious if deshrouding will work there.

  • @willb8343
    @willb8343 Před 3 lety +66

    I assume this would work in the Cooler Master nr200, if so, I'm definitely gonna use this trick in my next build

    • @Erksah68
      @Erksah68 Před 3 lety +21

      If he still has it on hand I'd acrually like him test it

    • @joebates640
      @joebates640 Před 3 lety

      i see

    • @radjafan
      @radjafan Před 3 lety +1

      @@Erksah68 me too

    • @Lee-lp9vg
      @Lee-lp9vg Před 3 lety +1

      Interested too tho thinking there might be too much clearance between gpu and fans since I have a 2.1 slot, if not then would use an Accelero Xtreme

    • @WakeSideLife
      @WakeSideLife Před 3 lety +3

      That's my plan. 2.7slot Asus card and 2 artic a12 pwms at the bottom.

  • @ThePckupelan
    @ThePckupelan Před 3 lety +3

    Was deshrouding my 285gtx long time ago and strap case fan with cable ties, excellent result.

  • @BaezlEugene
    @BaezlEugene Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you for simplifying the logo. It is a dream to look at now.

  • @true_BOT
    @true_BOT Před 3 lety +1

    Great work!
    btw, i liked you previous logo and intro more.

  • @MrSouthSioux
    @MrSouthSioux Před 3 lety +6

    Building in a NR200 Wed. Hoping to try something similar with my current 1080 which I've mounted a morpheus 2 on. Most likely not going to fit with 120/25 since that makes the card almost 4 slots but I'm hoping with slim 120/15 it will fit. With this and Fuma 2 for the cpu I should have a nice small air cooled silent little ninja of a pc.

    • @Camina.Drummer
      @Camina.Drummer Před 3 lety

      I saw a thread on reddit where NR200 + Morpheus II + 25mm works, just barely. The NR200 looks to have a bit more room than the Ncase.

  • @hughjazz44
    @hughjazz44 Před 3 lety +84

    I'd still like to know why GPUs don't just come with 2 120mm fans clipped onto the heatsink. Why do they always use weird proprietary fans?

    • @matthewblu5725
      @matthewblu5725 Před 3 lety +25

      Style points bro

    • @krazyfrog
      @krazyfrog Před 3 lety +14

      Obviously because of case clearance issue. A graphics card with a 120mm fan would be too tall to fit inside most of the compact cases. If the graphics card used in this video came with a heat sink designed for 120mm fans, it would have never been able to fit inside this case. Any case that can't fit a 120mm CPU cooler won't be able to fit a graphics card with 120mm fans.

    • @hughjazz44
      @hughjazz44 Před 3 lety +33

      @@krazyfrog A triple slot GPU would already not fit in most compact cases, so your argument is mostly irrelevant. Having more flexibility in normal ATX and mATX cases would be better and cover most use cases.

    • @LiveType
      @LiveType Před 3 lety +15

      Cost, manufacturing efficiency, and size constraints. But mostly cost. A half decent 120mm fan would likely cost 4-5x as much as they pay for those flimsy excuses for cooling fans. I mean I would gladly pay an extra ~$30-40 if a manufacturer actually adopted them but only time will tell. Why would they spend more on the fans when they can just slap a bigger heatsink on? My guess is the best you'll get is that it becomes easier to mount your own 120mm fans in the future.
      Example: Have you seen the fans inside of the Mac Pro? Those are some ludicrously expensive fans in classic over-engineered apple fashion. They're there because the user base won't even bat an eye at the ~$150-200 spent on fans.

    • @krazyfrog
      @krazyfrog Před 3 lety +1

      @@hughjazz44 I wasn't talking about the thickness of the card. I specifically mentioned height and also gave a CPU cooler as an example.

  • @Alienking01
    @Alienking01 Před 3 lety +1

    I have done the same with my Gigabyte RTX 2060 Super Gaming OC,
    worked wonders in terms of noise.
    The original fans would always cycle on/off and the min fan speed was quite high.
    The de-shrouding was very easy and no extra work was necessary.

  • @constantinosschinas4503

    wonderful build, exluding psu and case (looks). those fams go so well with copper. big fan of air coolling ;)

  • @din3832
    @din3832 Před 3 lety +3

    What about that noctua cooler? You never showed us how this one does on the Ncase M1! Cheers mate, great content as ever.

  • @DocteurMolotov
    @DocteurMolotov Před 3 lety +12

    Since I installed an accelero III on my 5700xt mech, I wish I could buy my next GPU card bare and on the cheap instead of paying for noisy and bad stock cooling solutions (that I will be swapping anyway)
    Great vid tho m8

    • @brenlouissurio2404
      @brenlouissurio2404 Před 3 lety

      @Max.Sc. Yeah, I don't know why he bought the MSI when he's replacing it.

    • @DocteurMolotov
      @DocteurMolotov Před 3 lety +1

      @Max.Sc. blower coolers does not comes cheap to produce : case, vapor chamber, fan,... All I ask is a bare pcb with the chips :P

    • @DocteurMolotov
      @DocteurMolotov Před 3 lety

      @@brenlouissurio2404 it was a cheap (320usd) refurbished GPU. I thought that the bad cooler was fixable with thermal grizzly pads but oh boy I was wrong... the thing is as doomed as noisy and hot

    • @maximroberts9674
      @maximroberts9674 Před 3 lety

      @@brenlouissurio2404 hmm ' cause he bought the bad msi card. Gaming x is great

    • @LPMusicON
      @LPMusicON Před 3 lety

      @Max.Sc. Blower will not work with this mod as it pushes air through the heatstink outside of the case (top of the heatsink is sealed off). You need axial style card.

  • @clarklindsay2902
    @clarklindsay2902 Před 3 lety

    I have a deshrouded 1080ti in my NCASE M1 with 25x120mm Noctuas, like the build in the video. Huge improvement over stock, and very easy to execute. Would absolutely recommend it

  • @MrChow
    @MrChow Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks for the video and info!!! I have always wonder about this. Now to go try it!

  • @R0B711
    @R0B711 Před 3 lety +10

    4:03 Which toolkit is it? Seems like the link is missing. Heard the iFixit bits are a little soft. You had any problems with them?

    • @otroe
      @otroe Před 3 lety +2

      I’ve had an iFixit for about two years now and the only ones that are worn down are the p5 and y000, the regular size ones have held up to my 3D printers pretty fine

  • @meledyne5059
    @meledyne5059 Před 3 lety +73

    Omg so basically gpu board partners are screwing us over 🤣

    • @t4iga121
      @t4iga121 Před 3 lety +10

      no, they just aren't fan experts and currently refrain from building 4+ slot cooler designs, which this is.

    • @funkagenocide
      @funkagenocide Před 3 lety +23

      @@t4iga121 if you're doing design work on thermal solutions for silicon components you most assuredly are a "fan expert," in the professional sense. Modeling Air flow through such a system is a pretty basic engineering task that any junior level mechanical engineering student could undertake. All this is to say that, yes, the only reason the thermals on your gpu are lackluster and the noise is too high is because the engineers working on them are operating within market parameters defined by what the consumer will put up with, not what provides the best absolute performance.

    • @lucastonoli3256
      @lucastonoli3256 Před 3 lety +2

      @@t4iga121 This mostly comes down to marketing. People demand fancy shrouds, lights and pretty shit, not going past the 3 slot height makes it more compatible with every case. Plus, if the thing still achieves the right FPS, they ensure the sale regardless of whether the cooling design is optimal or not.
      Ideal PC would have a horizontal layout to avoid piling up heat sources and major components would have tower-like heatsinks on top (pretty much like CPU cooling).

    • @TheKb117
      @TheKb117 Před 3 lety +1

      @@lucastonoli3256 much like the original desktop cases/layout design or the abandoned BTX form factor by Intel.

    • @TheRealFobican
      @TheRealFobican Před 3 lety

      But it leaves a lot of potential for creativity and imagination to play around with.

  • @NicholaiKM
    @NicholaiKM Před 3 lety

    Bruh, gotta respect your videos aesthetic. Its so clean

  • @alistairblaire6001
    @alistairblaire6001 Před 3 lety +1

    Amazing results. Honestly I would snip those metal shroud mounting tabs off to do it.

  • @obfuscurity
    @obfuscurity Před 3 lety +14

    Was the stock measurement taken before or after your stock mounting fix?

    • @popori7928
      @popori7928 Před 3 lety +2

      Probably not, since he used the screws from the deshrouding to fix the mounting problem?

    • @optimumtech
      @optimumtech  Před 3 lety +6

      @@popori7928 I realised just how bad the problem was after deshrouding, but then went back, installed the shorter screws, and re-tested with the original shroud and fans. This gave us the "Stock" result on the chart.
      I borrowed two screws from the shroud to fix the issue, you can still mount the original shroud with 2 screws missing.

  • @eritulizx
    @eritulizx Před 3 lety +5

    You should make a deshroud video with the 3080 cards.

  • @Ruiso7
    @Ruiso7 Před 3 lety

    Did the same with the node 202 using the amd Fury card from saphire back in the day. Loved it

  • @jalapaeno
    @jalapaeno Před 3 lety

    I've been looking forward to someone doing this!

  • @Pabula
    @Pabula Před 3 lety +4

    I see you using NH-C14S and in the past you used to run a Noctua NH-D9L (i think), which of the two nets you better temps and noise?

    • @ffwast
      @ffwast Před 3 lety +1

      Probably the c14s depending on case configuration

    • @GettingAroundToIt
      @GettingAroundToIt Před 3 lety +2

      I'd love to see a video comparing the NH-C14S to the NH-U9S in the NCASE M1 v 6.1.

  • @johnsun7939
    @johnsun7939 Před 3 lety +5

    Great video, I have a question for the CPU cooling though. Is the fan set as intake or exhaust?

    • @Arif-nr4mt
      @Arif-nr4mt Před 3 lety +1

      I think it is used as intake

  • @mpeugeot
    @mpeugeot Před 3 lety

    Well done, it's impressive.
    My 1080ti's with water blocks are dead silent, never exceed 50 degrees Celsius, and overclock like mad as a result. Having enjoyed custom loop water cooled systems, I can't imagine doing it differently just because of how quiet it runs with a big radiator.

  • @thecookeman
    @thecookeman Před 3 lety

    i've managed to get 2x ML140 140mm fans in the lower section of the NCase m1 with some small mods to the fan brackets, again i did this to further lower the speed of my fans on my 1080ti with the accelero III. absolutely amazing mod.
    This deshrouding is even better, as you can don't need to glue crappy ram sinks on!, ill be looking for the certain 3080ti card that comes on the market that allows us to run with this option, i dont care for flashing lights, and smaller noiser fans. We want outright performance and silence!
    thanks again ali great videos as always!

  • @KhaledAlfaris
    @KhaledAlfaris Před 3 lety +144

    I like your new channel logo. The one before was a jumbled mess.

    • @Numeriwar
      @Numeriwar Před 3 lety +12

      Its still bad. I have no idea what it is... a box filled with water?

    • @atespeach5672
      @atespeach5672 Před 3 lety +6

      @@Numeriwar A minecraft chest in two colours. I'm not kidding btw.

    • @laurihulikkala3976
      @laurihulikkala3976 Před 3 lety +4

      yeh it seriously wasnt optimum

    • @kenshiku
      @kenshiku Před 2 lety +2

      @@Numeriwar "i don't understand it so it's bad and a mess" You guys are something else, calling you idiots might be too good for you all.

  •  Před 3 lety +13

    For years I'm running RX 580 deshrouded
    2x120mm artic 1200RPM fan
    3D printed bracket
    And noise is gone

    • @gkeegan2676
      @gkeegan2676 Před 3 lety +2

      I have a Radeon RX580, 3 fan, and I was interested in doing the same thing. Any chance I can purchase a bracket from you?

    • @matthewgegg3835
      @matthewgegg3835 Před 3 lety

      Care to link to that file? Thanks

  • @tommytwotone5627
    @tommytwotone5627 Před 3 lety +1

    Great idea, only problem I see is are the bottoms fans getting enough breathing room. Your clearance looks adequate, but I wonder how well that would work if the fans had more of a free flow into the gpu heatsink, along side with adding higher cfm fans as well.

  • @pipoviola
    @pipoviola Před 3 lety

    Amazing job, man! Congratulations.

  • @chepaco3290
    @chepaco3290 Před 3 lety +25

    So why don't gpu's come with universal mounts for us to mount our own 120's to? Why isnt that a thing yet?

    • @zoomzabba452
      @zoomzabba452 Před 3 lety +6

      It's probably part of where they make their slim profit margins.

    • @yohanes2034
      @yohanes2034 Před 3 lety +5

      I imagine that would be ideal. They cut cost by not providing the fans and shroud, and we as enthusiasts can put any kind of fans that we like onto the GPU.

    • @MelvinKhosa
      @MelvinKhosa Před 3 lety +2

      It is a thing. Buy a reference card, go to Raijintek or Arctic who will gladly sell you a heatsink, and go to Noctua for some fans.

    • @chepaco3290
      @chepaco3290 Před 3 lety +13

      @@MelvinKhosa this isn't the same thing. I feel like you're just flexing some random enthusiast knowledge. I don't want to disassemble a gpu, repaste it, and install a new heatsink just to connect some fans. I want to go to Newegg, buy an EVGA gpu and slap on 2 fans. 5 seconds, done.

    • @yohanes2034
      @yohanes2034 Před 3 lety

      It is still a mod. Would be better if the board manufacturers acknowledge their design shortcomings and just put standard fan bracket for easier installation. They have put water block preinstalled before so finger crossed.

  • @johnli4754
    @johnli4754 Před 3 lety +4

    I wonder which of the new 3000 series you can easily deshroud mod with?

  • @drink__more__water
    @drink__more__water Před 3 lety +2

    The Fractal Design Era can also benefit from this sort of mod. The clearance is a _lot_ tighter, but the airflow boost for that case in particular is incredible.

  • @livog2045
    @livog2045 Před 3 lety +2

    I love this channel, great video, thank you for this! Can you do a part 2 with the compatible 3080 + 3090?

  • @harrison2899
    @harrison2899 Před 3 lety +15

    Wouldn't this work on any case if you just zip tied the fans to the graphics card heatsink? I would love to see a video on that.

    • @harrison2899
      @harrison2899 Před 3 lety +2

      @@Nephid I probably saw it when it came out and forgot about it. I am very interested to see this channel do it as this channel has a lot of focus on fans and cooling in SFF Cases when LTT is more of a fun LOL type channel.

  • @VlrGuitarWorld
    @VlrGuitarWorld Před 3 lety +3

    Perforated desk for further decrease in temps...lol

  • @giannistsakiris5408
    @giannistsakiris5408 Před rokem

    you are an absolute professional. I have no fear recommending you as the go-to pc hardware channel.

  • @gurshair
    @gurshair Před 3 lety

    I just bought a Lian LI tu150 and used noctua fans with the goal of quietness. I pretty sure this will work on my case and would like to thank you for the great idea.

  • @Kekeripo
    @Kekeripo Před 3 lety +2

    Wait, hows "exhaust" cooler than "intake"? Exhaust as in the fans blow down out of the case?

    • @antisniper70
      @antisniper70 Před 3 lety +1

      Yes the exhaust fans blow down onto the table out of the case. The reason it’s cooler is because there is much more space to bring air from within the case than intaking from the small area under the case, this also takes out warm air from the case

    • @gutterg0d
      @gutterg0d Před 3 lety +1

      No clue, but it's the same with my Lian Li TU150 case. I got a 10 degrees C difference (under load) when I flipped my bottom fans to exhaust.

    • @mikfhan
      @mikfhan Před 3 lety +1

      Yeah I'd imagine it's because after 20min or so the small case is otherwise saturated with ambient heat from all the intakes. Having one of them as exhaust alleviates this; perhaps even lay the case on its side so it can exhaust the hot air unobstructed.

  • @looxx1z
    @looxx1z Před 3 lety +3

    How come, that when i went for deshrouding, i have higher temps on my gpu when set as exhaust? Did it with a 2080ti black from evga and had around 5-6 degrees hotter. Was very similar to the fusion 3 with the kraken for a 9900k that is limited to 95w...

    • @Duncan23
      @Duncan23 Před 3 lety +2

      When it comes to PC cooling there are so many variables its almost impossible to compare temperatures unless every component is the same. Even then there are variables like mounting pressure etc which will also effect things

    • @rocketracer111
      @rocketracer111 Před 3 lety

      When you post your build with pics somewhere like pcpartpicker oder builds gg than maybe we can comment on it :) do t forget to share the link to your build

    • @Rose.Of.Hizaki
      @Rose.Of.Hizaki Před 3 lety +2

      Maybe your case isnt high enough off the desk for the air to flow easily. Either that or its your choice of fan.

    • @niter43
      @niter43 Před 3 lety +2

      EVGA Black Edition is 2-slot card? Are you using different case, thicker fans or made shrouds for fans? Because otherwise you should have a gap bellow fans and M1 bottom -- fans don't blow all of the air outside of the case.
      Also even with shrouds/proper spacing it's reasonable to think that slim heatsinks work worse with exhaust -- as with such configuration fans pull air through the heatsink from it's sides (and there is less area from side profile).

    • @DClaville
      @DClaville Před 3 lety +1

      where are you exhausting to ? sucking air from the heat sink will very rarely be better it only works in the case in the video where the fans can blow the air out the case directly. in a normal case and GPU placement you will want to have it blowing into the heat sinks. . i also thing the VRM temps where higher in the exhaust setup in the video but might not have been monitored in that part of the test.

  • @tom_zanna
    @tom_zanna Před 3 lety

    This is my dream build! Silent and compact

  • @blueckaym
    @blueckaym Před 3 lety +1

    Impressive results!
    This mod would be less exotic (and case dependent) if one mounts the fans directly to the heatsink, instead of to the case and try to match the space in between.
    I guess one can use the very modern tool, known as zip-ties :) (there are also a metal kind). Also these Noctua fans have rubber anti-vibration pads in the corners so it should help with reducing noise from imperfect mount.

  • @placeholder7054
    @placeholder7054 Před 3 lety +7

    This isn't a deshrouding mod....this is a cold air intake mod.

    • @roebbiej
      @roebbiej Před 3 lety +1

      Lol you must be a car guy

  • @apostolosgkatzogias6706
    @apostolosgkatzogias6706 Před 3 lety +7

    What about Coolermaster's NR200 ??

  • @gnshp8167
    @gnshp8167 Před 3 lety

    Your video quality is insane. I will probably try this because my 1080ti mini is running pretty hot

  • @malafob
    @malafob Před 3 lety +2

    As always Ali ... Top quality stuff!! Thx for your hard Work. Im waiting on my NR200P. Seems not that easy to get one in germanY...

    • @michael_rauen
      @michael_rauen Před 3 lety

      Hi again :-) (foobyte from Reddit) Luckily our NR200P's are on the way now. It's still stuck in France but it should get here by Monday, or Tuesday by the latest.

  • @aisdhgaoi3qea
    @aisdhgaoi3qea Před 3 lety +4

    Anyone tried this in an NZXT H1? Is this even possible in the H1?

    • @TheGaspacho21
      @TheGaspacho21 Před 3 lety +3

      Yes it is possible, I am going to actually be doing it later today. Look up nzxt h1 mods on the itx subreddit

    • @aisdhgaoi3qea
      @aisdhgaoi3qea Před 3 lety +2

      @@TheGaspacho21 Let me know how it goes :) Which GPU will you be using? I have preordered my H1 and am waiting for it to arrive before i buy parts. I am mostly interested in making the H1 as quiet as possible.

    • @jamesbarnett
      @jamesbarnett Před 3 lety +2

      I've got a deshrouded Gigabyte 2070 super in my H1 and it made a huge difference to noise/ thermals. I have two noctua NF-A12x15s attached; no issues with protruding brackets but you do have to get creative with zip ties to attach the fans. Felt very crude whilst I was building it but actually I think the end result looks better than stock.
      If reducing noise is in your interests I'd also recommend swapping the stock psu for an SF750 or similar - the stock psu isn't loud, but I found the stop start switching in and out of passive mode a little intrusive. Basically do all this :
      www.reddit.com/r/sffpc/comments/g579s1/not_your_average_h1_post/

    • @aisdhgaoi3qea
      @aisdhgaoi3qea Před 3 lety

      James Barnett awesome! Do you have pics? Did you zip tie the fans to the GPU?

    • @jamesbarnett
      @jamesbarnett Před 3 lety

      Forgot that I repasted the cooler as well. No idea if it helped but figured I may as well whilst it was apart, but by no means necessary for the fan mod.

  • @OfficialRedTeamReview
    @OfficialRedTeamReview Před 2 lety +3

    Does having two fans blow air towards the GPU like that actually help with its temps?

  • @MrMoxes
    @MrMoxes Před 3 lety

    5:42 Just chinning in here. Those that own a Skyreach 4 Mini, such as myself, have done something similar with the Zotac 1070/80 mini and other RTX mini cards. Using NF-A9 x 15 fans, sometimes zip tied to heat pipes or just resting on the heat sink itself. Nice to see Noctua once again proving their worth.
    Cheers :-)

  • @Aldenco99
    @Aldenco99 Před 3 lety

    Really interesting concept. Glad the algorithm suggested it.

  • @Lordosvk
    @Lordosvk Před 3 lety +3

    20c Ambient temp is too cool for real tests. not every one has AC and coooling room to 20c is not recommend ideal temp is 25-26c for siting.

    • @niter43
      @niter43 Před 3 lety +1

      People live in different regions, you know. There's plenty of places where you have to actively ~heat~ your room for the most of the year to have it at 20c.
      Also that shouldn't change much -- assume results would change linearly with ambient higher than tested (so add 5-6 dergrees to all shown results)

    • @Lordosvk
      @Lordosvk Před 3 lety

      @@niter43 yes.

  • @Ta5.
    @Ta5. Před 3 lety +3

    okay, ravepriest1 copy
    just kidding

  • @OugaBoogaShockwave
    @OugaBoogaShockwave Před 3 lety

    Great video, love how you get in to details................Good stuff dude !
    i regret Not continuing with my passion for PC, Glad there are people like you that can afford it, i can't being broke & drunk.........
    i might swap out the fans on my gtx 970's eventually, i really love the "golden dragon" edition MSI makes once in a while !
    Really hope they make a copper heat sink for 3070 or 3080, i'll buy it in a instant !
    I JUST Love copper heat sinks, been a fan of them for a long time & with a great fan attached IMO they are as good as water cooling if not better..........

  • @francis10203
    @francis10203 Před 3 lety +1

    This will be my next build. Thanks.