Real Noctua GPU vs Redneck Engineering My Own
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Noctua and ASUS have finally collaborated to bring us an RTX 3070 with Noctua fans and owl stylings on the shroud. But does it perform cooler or quieter than a regular GPU with NF-A12s duct taped to it?
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0:00 Intro
0:42 Physical Overview
4:10 Competitor Performance
5:14 Noctua Performance
10:24 Redneck Engineering
13 :17 Conclusion - Věda a technologie
Derbauer already said that he wasn't right and there are actual differences in the heatsinki itself
Sorry this was filmed a while ago. Thanks for the clarification!
yeah, the Heatsink is much larger on the noctua card
Happy to not have the money, because i'm a sucker for Noctua. well, for good reasons at least
@@LinusTechTips I don’t see this video on floatplane, is that normal?
And Major Hardware actually 3D designed the cooler for a STRIX card before the Noctua one launched - Pretty awesome video
Heatsinki is the future name of the capital of Finland after global warming
12:15 the smoke in doom looks so realistic that i thought the card is on fire.
Ikr
I might be having my morning coffee right now but that got me too :P
I was panicking, especially when he noted that the fans were spinning according to CPU temps and not GPU... welp
I came here to comment this lmao
pretty bad ass
12:06 - lol I thought the GPU was smoking.
lmao same
funny seeing you here, love your videos!
Your alive!
same
Lol same
Linus: "You won't see that in the real world. Our room is only 18 degrees C."
Other Canadians: "Look a mister big shot heating his room to 18C in January!"
this wasnt a good comparison. the heatsink on the non-noctua unit clearly was smaller and thinner. if you are going to use a thinner hs, at least compensate with a faster running fan.
@@BobRooney290 I mean, It's pretty obvious that the noctua one has a thinner heatsink. That's just how comparisons work.
Thicker*
12:18 for a split second the smoke effect in doom made me thing the card was smoking.
It got me too. 😂😂
saaame lolll
Same
Yeah for sure. Looked like the card was smoking.
I had that at 12:06 and then "confirmed" what I saw in 12:13 on and finally figured it out by 12:18 😅
I've been saying for a couple of years now, Noctua needs to make a case and other theme PC components. I actually enjoy the colors. Noctua theme build when?
Earthy forest build. The browns and add some forest green
the colors are horrendous in a regular build, but if you go with a "Noctua" theme, they are quite nice
@@defeqel6537 they should make a black case
I been waiting for a cale like the O11 mini, but the motherboard sits horizontally and regular PSU support. Why is that so hard
Trueee
They never could've anticipated the size of the 4090.
jup, the phrase about it being comically large aged like unpasteurized milk.
What about the 4090 noctua oh no
@@scrap-godsuper-zo4740i think you mean the 4080
@@sparkun4887 I was joking about how if they made one it would be like 6 slots
@@scrap-godsuper-zo4740 ok
James: “I’ve seen dogs get stuck together” _Doesn’t elaborate_
Gigachad James
When Linus showed us the noise of the fans, I could only hear one thing. My 8 years old laptop's fans spinning as loud as a jet engine.
Hehe
i thought i heard the gpu fans in the video, i paused. I still heard it.
I have a xbox 360 power supply for my screen and it's sound like a jet engine too
You gave an 8 year old a laptop?
Open it up, get the dust ect out from it. Repaste it. You won't even know its on.
I'm disappointed they didn't go for a 3080 or 3090 in the collab, just to really show off that Noctua cooling prowess. If it can keep the heart of a dying star from hitting 75C, it's legitimately impressive.
problem with that is cooling the memory chips behind the card
Or a 3070ti.
or at least turning the fans to 100% and pushing the OC!!!???
3070 was the right balanced pick here given the goal of the collab to create a near-silent product even under full load. This thing ends up drawing around 240-250W under full gaming load, whereas the GA102-based cards like the 3080/3080 Ti/3090 in a similar config would end up in the 350-400W range. To get that level of cooling/silence using just off-the-shelf Noctua 120mm fans would end up with a card so monstrously huge and heavy as to be impractical to even bring to market.
@@Bomkz If the AIBs spend $5 more on the manufacturing of a $1500++++ card they would place a thin laptop style heatpipe from the backplate to the main cooling block. Problem solved. Im sure a Noctua collab would have done something very similar to this for a 3090.
You can definitely make this work. I picked up an RX 580 4GB early in the pandemic for like $50 because the fans wouldn't spin. I took the shroud off and zip tied two 120mm case fans to it and then hooked the case fans up to a spare fan controller I had. I just cranked the dial on the fan controller when gaming and temps still stayed below 70C. Ended up selling it after the GPU shortage hit for like $140
I did a noctua mod myself, but I found it worked much better with 3 of their smaller fans tied to the GPU instead of 2 of the larger fans. Reason being, the hot air trying to escape out the fin stack would face turbulence caused by the faster moving air trying to sheer past it from the overhang of the large fans. 3X90mm fans gave me 50-60c temps in games, and I was even able to drive them off the graphics card fan connectors.
i have 2, works fine, 60c, memory 70c under max stress. I also used zip ties, not duct tape like Linus.
what if you just cover the overhang so no additional air would push through? I did it on mine
@@dreyga2what GPU are you using?
@@darkaheart 1080ti strix, why?
Linus: So, I’m gonna shut up for a second here
Everyone: Impossible
I like how Linus said "we suck" as if it was the entirety of Canada that failed to build a GPU cooler
What are you trying to say? That he is wrong? pffffff
Is Linus not all of Canada? I thought he was.
Sorry I'm a dumb American, I thought He was all of you.
@@NotTheHeroStudios american educational system
@@NotTheHeroStudios lmao
Canada ? Never Heard of It
Been using a modded 1080 Ti for three years now.
Was an MSI Armor OC version originally.
After the mod it became the 1080 Ti x Arctic x beQuiet.
- Changed the anemic stock heatsink with an Arctic Accelero 3 Extreme. For the GPU/heatsink thermal compound i went with Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut (liquid metal).
- Swapped out the 3 included 90mm Arctic fans that ship with that heatsink (removed the plastic shroud too) for 3x92mm beQuiet SilentWings2 full fat 25mm haight fans (PWM, 33.15 CFM, 18.6 dB) zip tied to each other and then on top of the heatsink.
- Added individual aluminium heatsinks on top of every vmem chip and on all the power stages (used 25% thermal glue + 75% Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut thermal paste to glue each in position)
The whole thing grew in height from a one and a half slot to a 3 and a half slot card.
It went from loud af at stock clocks to being inaudible even under heavy OC.
Temps went from 75-80c under load with no OC, to 50-55c under load with my daily OC applied (+ 69 core clock, +699 mem clock).
Been using it like this ever since i did the mod, about three years ago.
Some benchmark scores (17c ambinent temp, max OC applied: 2025-2037mhz core clock / 6443mhz mem clock):
- 4196 points in Unigine Heaven Benchmark 1080p (Ultra Quality, Extreme Tessellation, 8xAA) - min FPS: 41,9 / avg FPS: 166,6 / max FPS: 347 (52c max) [scored around
- 6492 points in Superposition 1080pExtreme - min FPS: 39,55 / avg FPS: 48,56 / max FPS: 56.48 (18c-44c max)
- 10528 points in Superposition 4kOptimized - min FPS: 62,56 / avg FPS: 78,75 / max FPS: 102.26 (19c-46c max)
- 10347 points in TimeSpy (paired with a 5.1Ghz OCed 8700K, 10819 points just for the Graphics score) (57c max)
The only 1080 Ti's i've seen in the wild that beat my scores are usually XOC bios swapped and/or custom loop watercooled variants.
Most high end 1080 Ti's out there, at stock clocks, usually score:
- Heaven 1080p Ultra-Extreme-8xAA: 3300-3400 points
- Superposition 1080pExtreme: 5000-5200 points
- Superposition 4kOptimized: 8600-8800 points
- TimeSpy: 9000-9200 points (9500-10000 Graphics score)
*When i say high end, i mean Strix, Aorus Extreme, etc
So, in conclusion, i made an Armor OC 1080Ti (one of the cheapest, hottest and loudest 1080Ti's) compete (mostly beat) the most high end 1080Ti's out there.
Similar story, I put an Accelero Mono Plus on my EVGA GTX1080 for $30. Went from being by far the loudest and hottest component in the case to virtually inaudible and 20c cooler than stock. I wasn't so worried about the OC, I just wanted it quiet and cool. I wish we had more stock options that valued those two goals.
I always use cases with opaque panels so I have reaped all the glorious Noctua benefits with none of the downsides. I really hope they continue this colab.
It's a cool looking cooler in a " I have many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany" sort of way.
I feel like this is the perfect description for this kind of thing.
Love how when Linus first put it on test, the game in the background made it look like smoke and flames were coming out of the GPU!
I thought that too
For a second I thought I was watching the LTT version of Fan Showdown.
I noticed that 2
I literally thought the same thing
Damn u notice that too!!
Love the closed captions/subtitles, Do Maternal is my favorite game.
I use this kind of setup on my rig, except because I have a specific itx case, I just take the shroud of the gpu and slap it directly to the side of the case with the fans in between. I use a software called Argus Monitor to curve those fan speeds to the temperature of my GPU and it works well. I have a Sapphire Nitro+ SE 6900xt, and with 2 noctua fans I never see temps above 65 C
I actually have had my own "Noctua-Edition" for the last 2 years.
Using a Morpheus 2 custom cooler with 2 noctua fans on my 1080ti,
my peak temps also only reach 55°C with the side panels off. and it is whisper quiet too.
11/10 would recommed
I swapped my Sapphire RX590 fans with zip-tied on Corsair ML120s a while back and haven't been happier. Much quieter and now peaks about the same temps the stock fans used to idle at.
I had strix vega64 that ran way too hot for the size of the heatsink, even after thermalpad fix and whatnot, so i ziptied some 120mm fans onto it after taking the original ones off & it ran ~10-15c cooler all across the board & only at ~1000-1200rpm, which was pretty much dead silent compared to the original ones + ~2500-3000 rpm
Haha had the same cooler in my 1080ti too. Similar temps with mag levs
I did the exact same thing. I had a 1080ti hybrid with a dead pump, so I swapped it out for the Morpheus II and stuck two Noctua fans and it worked better than when the card was new. Also I’m thankful that Raijintek had the foresight to include heatspreaders for the memory.
@@Nerdy_Lion Same here with an RTX 2080 in the Streacom DA2 v2 case.
James and Linus's no-filter cconversations are relationship goals.
I couldn't help but fucking die laughing during their conversations
Oh poor Linus... James broke him...
@@ThePhoenixAscendant nah not poor Linus
I think Linus has likely enough to James to justify it
'Ive seen two dogs get stuck together' - James
Watching Linus as the dog line sank in was just amazing, I think his brain just short circuited trying to find the correct response 😅
"It's kinda sexy, like in a ugly way" - a perfect discription of the Noctua GPU
12:06 I *really* thought this taped thing was smoking and frying out (look at smoke coming out above the card). It was only after some seconds seeing it again from 12:13 on, while *trying* to get why Linus wasn't smelling it already, that I figured it out! 😅
I noticed that too, I thought it was edited and they were going to do a joke about how hot the GPU was
Lol now that you mention it it does look like the GPU is smoking. But that's just DOOM playing on the monitor behind the GPU😂
Me too. I was like, dang, that thing is on fire!
same here... lol
Well it very well could have been with the temps it got to.
I'm surprised that not a single review I've seen has mentioned the repairability (and longevity) aspects here. With literal desktop Noctua fans, not only will the fans easily last a decade or more, but if they ever fail, you can literally just replace them with any random 120mm fan you have lying around, no fuss. Compare that to specialized GPU fans that die after just a couple of years and are a nightmare to track down (plus you'll often get crap quality replacements, not genuine ones), and the small downside of size is completely outweighed, IMO.
THIS. I have gone through this with my GTX1080 (since prices are crazy i have to make it last longer) replacement fans i found were significantly louder since the motors had a much higher minimum RPM then the original STRIX fans. I managed to get the old fan to stop making weird noises, so now i just keep my fingers crossed i can get a new card at a "reasonable" price before it fails completely.
Well I guess it depends really, my 1070 strix OC is still working good with its original fans and it's been like 5 years since I bought them, but yeah my 1080ti's fans died a few weeks ago, also a strix model.
My dude, when was the last time you had a Noctua fan fail?
@@5thwiseman Does it matter? One could accidentally drop the GPU and break a fan like that.
@@5thwiseman Mine are still flawless after countless years of use. But that sort of makes this double positive. They "never" fail, and if they fail, they are easy to replace.
And here is a third point: if you replace the card and don't sell or reuse it, you can always use the fans for other projects. :)
I had a thought while watching this: I wonder what the temps would be if you strapped a couple Blowie-Matrons to the cooler on the Noctua card. I know it defeats the whole purpose, but I like seeing how far something can be cooled with just sheer airflow.
love there reactions to the temps while i look at my temps of 90c average because second hand mined on card because i was a dumb and brought a gpu during the shortages and wanted to keep my arm and leg
At some point, GPUs are going to need to start having dummy PCI-E connectors on their shrouds to fight the sag
This is why I like my RV-02b case, the layout itself is turned 90 degrees so the card sits up instead of sideways, no sag at all :)
Wouldn't work because slot layout is pretty random. Could certainly fit a bigger IO bracket to mount to more rear slots on a card like this though.
@@kwlkid85 could make a modular system with screw on connectors
Sandwich cases are good for this. More case manufacturers should add gpu support brackets XD
Or just vertical mount..
Imagine 3d printing a GPU shroud for GPUS. You could essentially repurpose old GPUS, using pc fans and a custom shroud. Breathing some new life, into old hardware, and limiting some E-Waste in the world.
czcams.com/video/rJDWBE1hBEs/video.html watch this video on 3d printing a Noctua gpu cooler based off a leaked image.
I did that but without wasting all that time & filament lol. I zip-tied two old 4-pin 80mm fans to my very loud 5770 (office PC) and remapped their RPM. Less e-waste, cooler, quieter, and less energy (0.15A each vs 0.5A). Afterburner even allows for zero-rpm.
Guess I won't do this to my 3080's, too much hassle & danger IMO.
Isn't that what the aliexpress gtx1050s are
The signals of the virtue variety
@@andreidavid145 damn…great video
Dang, when Linus put a mic next to this all I can hear is my own fans - through the headphone!
can confirm, bought this card a couple of weeks ago. still in quiet mode has hit max of 75degrees c (hotspot) while gaming 1440p at 144Hz. also bought the nh d9l CPU cooler and thats hit a max of 65deg c. the only things i can hear are my case fans which im thinking of switching to noctua ones also.
linus videos are like cooking shows for techies. im addicted
Normal gpu: 2 slots
Noctua gpu: the whole pc
Can't believe Noctua went the lazy way with this one, they could've easily moulded a smaller enclosure for the fan blades to screw into
i mean you could engineer an i9 motherboard that fits in a gpu size motherboard, they could be put back to back for a super small pc
The motherboard take space on the GPU.
noctua gpu + the noctua passive cpu cooler: now we got the whole pc filled with heatsinks!
@@PyromancerRift its milimiters thick you dunce. The coolers are 95 of the size
"I've seen dogs stuck together." probably the best awkward moment of any ltt video.
Remember that a video called the roast of Linus does exist... That is the gold standard on LTT for Best awkward moments.
"It was time for Thomas to go! He had seen everything!"
I died laughing when he said that. Totally unexpected lol
As already clarified, the heatsink is different for both but also the problem is you attached fans to motherboard sensor in your deshrouding, and it had to be around 1200 RPM whereas the noctua edition at that temp is around 2000 rpm. You had to normalize RPMs for a more fair comparison
Crappy work by Linus. I did the same as he did and it works perfectly. I didn't use duct tape, tho. That is stupid.
lol
typical Linus mistakes!
Fwiw, the Extech 407750 has an SPL range floor at 30db. 28-29dB readings are caused by the electronics in the meter - it was likely quite a bit quieter. SPL meters that accurately read below 30dB get real pricey, real quick.
Linus: "It's kind of sexy in like an ugly way."
Best way to describe this hideous masterpiece of a GPU.
Chocolate and Caramel GPU
Noctua coolers are like Pugs. They're ugly as sin but precious.
The only thing that slipped in my mind was an ugly b*****d tag, and now I can't get that association to go away
YUP!
"Kind of sexy in an ugly way" I think that's Noctua's motto
"I've seen dogs get stuck together" - Shit James says
what did he mean by that tho…?
In context of the male part being stuck in the female connector, he is probably referring to dog breeding where the male can get similarly stuck.
ohhh… yeah right… idk why i just couldn’t imagine that so i just didn’t even understand what he meant :))) problem is… now i can imagine it… and i don’t like it
I laughed for a good couple minutes at that exchange
I did knot see that coming...
This is my new favorite GPU. This needs to become an industry standard.
Especially with the crazy gpu prices. Fans and radiators are cheap compared to the chips. So it makes a lot of sense to have better coolers. And not just on the very high end GPUs. I say, if it fits in pc cases, it's worth to just have bigger and more fans on graphics cards. Even if it "doesn't need so much cooling".
Dang I wish I could have one of these. Great video like always!
12:12 just me saw the smoke in-game and thought damn whats going on lmao
"It's kinda sexy in, like, an ugly way" That's basically how I feel about Noctua at large. It doesn't look sleek and modern but it does look good... somehow...
Milky white and brown i love them
@@drizzledking8770 I think you better get your milk checked out lmao
True. :v
Not 'edgy' or 'badass' colors at all, but for some of us, they do look good. All that aside the fact Noctua is great quality (albeit somewhat expensive). I love my cooler, silently working every day from 8+ years ago (first on an i7-3770K, and now on an i7-10700K).
I think it's simply because you know that they are good. They have a unique style, they've proven to be top of the class, this leads to an association between their style and great performance... Since you like quality and performance you eventually like their style. Just imagine for a second that Noctua was a generic cheap brand with subpar performing fans. You most definitely wouldn't have the same "emotions" when looking at those brown fans.
@@BrokkoliSchleuder it's kind of like software websites. Apache web server is buy far the most used, it's website looks like its from the 90s. its almost a badge of honor to have a good product and ugly style in the tech world
This is actually fire. I might have to make my next build a vintage style. The color scheme is perfect for that
I can't unsee the owl on that cooler now... thanks.
I would love for GPUs to start coming with shrouds that hold full-sized fans. It would make it far easier to operate quite GPUs long-term.
+1 here
Yup
I would just love for them to come out in general. All these videos and none of these products are even available for sale
Go down to Wally world, pick up a multi speed floor box fan and some duct tape. Take the sides off your system and assemble the the whole thing. (Gonna be loud but cool if it doesn't fall on the floor first.)
This is actually going to change the world of GPUs when you can decide what you want and it connect to GPU
“I’ve seen dogs get stuck together” had me crying
Just plug the fans on the GPU header
Or use one of the motherboard headers and control the speed with argus monitor in order to sync the fan speed with the GPU temp with a totally custom fan curve
This really makes me wanting the workshop back. It was so great.
Linus: I have 3d printers, laser cutters and a whole workshop.
Also linus: let's use duct tape
That dog comment 🤣. I think that's the first time I've seen Linus speechless. James broke him lol.
2:06 THANKS EDITOR! Now I'll never be able to unsee the owl face again!
Crazy how small the gpu boards really are. The majority of their size is heatsink. I like the idea of creating "perforated" circuit boards Meaning any areas that have nothing running through them link in board connectors, is laser etched out so air can not only pass over the board but through it as well.
"Is it worth buying"
At MSRP ? Hell yes
ANYTHING is worth buying at MSRP right now.
even tp
But can you find it at MSRP?
The truly mind blowing thing is how they thought a 2 slot support bracket was somehow enough for a 4 slot card. That thing was sagging on a god damn test bench.
To be fair, in a case you have the port and the case as support, while on the bench you have just the port.
It's also got 4 slots of leverage, while in the case... It doesn't.
That said, I wonder how long it'll last without sagging to oblivion
@@Anankin12 nah that test bench has posts you can tie it down on it you look closely, not sure if they used them
@@videogamefreak221122 bag
@@videogamefreak221122 can confirm that sag on test benches is real, even if you use the posts. the posts are literally just screwed through the acrylic into a standoff, so it tends to go everywhere really really easily.
@PC_Modder I'll rephrase: in a case you have 3 points of contact, on a benchmark only 2.
I would love to see more graphics cards which use, or at least which are compatible with, standard sized case fans. 92mm or 120mm would make sense, and 140mm could also make sense. This will generally make cards thicker, but they don't need to be as thick as this one is.
Absolute mad lads with the AC set to 18C
I agree with Jay's take: the cooling is fantastic but wasted on a 3070. 3080/90 versions would take more advantage of how well it cools. Card looks awesome too.
Yep, that is the real test, also not changing the fan headers to look at GPU temp makes it not a one-for-one comparison.
Noctua: "we're so good at making fans that you will tolerate how ugly we make them"
There's two Noctua fans in my rig. My rig is built into a Fractal Node 202. The fans are crammed under the GPU. You'll never see them. Or hear them.
The black ones are tolerable
I actually like how they look
@@muzzleflashh I only kid. I have some myself. Who wouldn't love beige mixed with maroon? Maybe their lead designer is colorblind.
I like them. My PC is currently on my tea stand and those browns would harmonize really nicely with it.
I want to see more brands do what MSI have done with their ITX 3060 Ti. The amount of heat pipes and heat sink you get, is balanced by a fairly solid fan. Where as, Evga decided to go with a chonk 2.75 slot heatsink and not much in the way of heat pipes with their 2060. It still runs okay. But, I believe in having effective heat wicking.
So, i used noctua fans on my 1070 when i bought it second hand and the fan were horribly loud.
Only difference i see here is that i used plastic strips, but it's generally the same. Of course, the 1070 doesn't make as much heat as this one does.
My gpu was whisper quiet and i never had any issues with heat. I don't think i ever reached higher than 60*C
I would highly reccommend this mod if you don't mind a shabby looking gpu (unless you 3d print or something).
So, that DIY'd version of the Noctua edition gpu wasn't one to one. The heatsink was clearly smaller. If they wanted to do a one to one comparison, they should have used another Asus TUF card then strapped Noctua fans to it. That and I'm sure that putting tape on the sides of the heatsink where air should be escaping isn't helping thermals at all. That, or just buy a Morpheus cooler and put some Noctua fans on it. They are popular aftermarket aircoolers because they work pretty darn well and look really good in the black nickel finish.
Not to mention not having the fans configured correctly. Should have at least checked the RPM they were running at, otherwise you can't compare them
100% correct. LTT doesn't always use the most scientific methodology. Now GN, they would have noise normalized and compared temps and performance using the one to one method you explained.
LTT is still always fun to watch, and some times they do good work, but this wasn't their best.
If they'd put more effort into it this video wouldn't be called "... Redneck engineering... ".
@@scottneulist9495 They were comparing thermals to noise. If you are willing to sacrifice noise levels then yes the fans will work of course. However this test showed that this didn't work if are trying to achieve a similar noise profile. Faster fans equals cooler but more noise. By matching noise levels you can calmly measure cooling performance.
Add to that, the fact that they covered one side of the exhaust of the GPU with tape, when ppl, me including been doing it ghetto style with zip ties since years ago.
I have a 1080 strix with 2x120mm sw3 strapped to it. 200w, 20°C ambient, fans spin at 800rpm, 56-57°C, die temps...
"I've seen dogs get stuck together" Did nobody else catch that?
lmao i was looking for this comment 😂😂😂 #knot
@@xRipeh I'm literally so surprised why nobody pointed it out
I was excited for a moment, then I realized that none of those links actually let you purchase this GPU... Not that I can afford it right now, but I can dream. 👍😎👍
Basically I was running this for more than 1 year now. I de-shrouded a standard 3080 and put it in a NR200P, with 2 12mm Noctua fans below. The annoying thing is fan speed control, but it’s a perfect setup forma thermal and noise standpoint.
"Is it worth it?"
Sure, if you can find one
bruh i am feeling sad for you cuz you got only bot comments befor me lol
@Ben Franklin Like it is easy to find a console for a normal price at the moment.
@@kavivarman they aren't even the new generation one's either, those at least copy other random popular comments to make for some hilarious stuff sometimes :p
@Ben Franklin yep pc gamer here and this is true. I switched to an Xbox series s and I like it
Love the design and colour scheme. Would love to see a build that embrace this! Maybe something with dark stained wood and brass would work?
I was thinking the same thing. The card looks classy in a wood way, not the normal black and silver ish colouring.
Exactly! It kinda feels retro?
Sadly most of the market is rgb cases that look like star trek props.
@@VexxedSR Also sadly, wood is much more an insulator where Steel is not. Would have a lot of performance loss due to using wood, and it’s technically a fire hazard.
@@Xwartu so it would be more feasible for wood vinyl stickers?
The fact that it looks like an owl is just the best thing ever.
i would LOVE to do a build themed around this card.
That look on Linus's face when he realized what he meant about the dogs.
"So many slots, you won't know where to begin."
"Heh-heh. Cool."
Isn't it funny that this is a colab between Noctua who use an owl as a logo and Asus who also uses an owl for its Strix line
You could 3D print actual brackets pretty easy.
Get your flatbed scanner out, import the scan for reference to your screw hole distances, import any 120mm fan and just make little doodads to go from one screw hole to another.
"I've seen dogs stuck together" I literally died
very sussy
It's true I've had dogs
@@sebastiaodeabreu7297 nice to meet an expert on the topic
@@arizonarangerwiththebigiro8588 ph doggy d
@Ellipsys0303 The best part is idk if Linus really put it together. 10 seconds of neurons firing and simply responds "that's a weird thing to say"
"I have seen dogs getting stuck together"
alpha male talk
I like the way it looks. Need to mount it outside the case for effect!
Red Green would be proud of you; that would be a crazy colab.
And then he pulls out a comically large GPU, funniest shit I ever seen
12:06 My heart skipped a beat. Holy shit!
Magic smoke XD
When james said hes seen "dogs get stuck together" ...... I cant breath
It's funny that you mention noise floor, when listening on Bluetooth headphones, they will just cut out because it's so quiet
This is how all GPUs should be cooled, they cool great, its quiet and super easy to replace with pretty much any fan being a standard desktop fan if one dies. GPU heatsinks are so big these days anyway 120mm or even 140mm desktop fans are definitely the way to go.
Equal cooling for GPUs! 🤘
No, Case fans and cooler fans are different,one go for flow rate,the other go for dynamic pressure
@Omega | so? Even if that's the case it still clearly performs better aot the small 1-3 gpu fan setup.
@@oMega-sm1eg What do you think people use for CPU heatsinks and radiators? You can get static pressure optimized 120mm desktop fans, and in fact this very GPU is using unmodified Noctua NF-A12x25 desktop fans.
Actually love the idea and design of the ASUS Noctua card. I have lots of space in my case, just put a big ass heat sink and fan full. I have space in my case for a reason, fill that bad boy up.
Also, regular desktop fan? Easy to replace and upgrade?
not that u need to in a while with noctuah fans lmao
They are normal desktop fans. Roman swapped them out with different fans a few times and it's very easy to do
But whats the point in buying this card for silence if it has coil whine
@@SimakSantana probably wont hear any of that inside a case.
jay already put delta fans on it, and to their credit, standard 4 pin fan headers on the card (although they did not use them for the delta's for power draw reasons)
the fans in the card actually has shorter leads he said, but other than that they are standard.
It does look beautiful. That brown / tan color of noctua fans is probably the most ascetically pleasing out of any fan type
I just checked the price of these in the link in the description. My entire system with a founder's edition 3070 probably cost me less than just that card alone would, and the founder's edition 3070 is already pretty quiet in a case. I love Noctua as much as the next person, but it's hard to see how this would be worth it.
it's not.
I'd be curious to see if he replaced the fans in the asus/noctua designed one with the same fans he jerry-rigged up to see if theres a difference between them getting their power/speed from the gpu. was disapointed he didn't ramp up the speed a little to see if there was a difference. Also take the heat sink off the asus/noctua and put it on something else. I bet the bigger heat sink is the difference maker.
A larger heat sink just gives more volume for thermal capacity, which is why product testers who know what they're doing will wait for a fair amount of time for heat soaking before gathering data.
Theoretically, the larger volume can contribute to the cooling by having more surface area, but that still depends on how fast and efficiently the cooling solution is able to transfer heat. If the moving air has reached saturation by the time it leaves the metal, even an infinitely large heatsink won't perform any better.
Without looking into hard scientific data, it'd be really hard to draw the conclusion of how much impact the metal itself actually has, but in the end, it's moot since that's embedded in the conclusion anyway; the heatsink design was as much part of the collaboration as the choice of fans was.
JayzTwoCents switched out the fans and it was still hitting the same temps.
@@FunTimeWithSouls He didn't use standard case fans , either. He probably hit the wall of diminishing returns rather quickly with the insane fans he put on it. I believe he also said that the cooler wouldn't fit on the standard Asus TUF 3070. That was part of his plan for that video, too.
Yep, Jay replaced them with Deltas... not a slow fan.
Very thorough investigation im glad you considered air dynamics, Funneling, blocking air paths, and reducing vibrations
/s for those who didn't get it.
There are adapters where you can plug those fans directly on the GPU to have it controlled by the GPU temps.
I think it looks so classy. So good! I just want Noctua fans on everything!
This reminds me of two penny Jay's Delta fan experiments. The fin density of a heatsink is designed for a particular fan in a good assembly. This means that replacing it will have limited returns.
I've made my own DYI Noctua edition card using an ASUS RTX 3070 Dual (non-OC) and the fans spin at about 1500 RPM (controlled by the card itself with a small adapter) with temps maxing out at 68 degrees (74 for the hot spot) running benchmarks (but it doesn't get quite as high during actual gaming). So it _is_ possible to get a similar performance to the real thing, but I guess the card you use will influence your performance a lot...
But also letting the card control your fans is probably a very good idea which you should've tried :/ maybe it would run the fans a bit faster but it could've made up for the difference in the heatsink.
Also, the NF-A12 aren't the most focused fans out there, so you have to make sure the fans are really tight against the heatsink, or else the air will just go out the edges.
What “adapter” did you use? Is it just straight through wiring?
@@toypilot9811 should be. The gpu has its own control pins so it's just a matter of connecting the noctua fan headers to work in parallel electrical connection between them and matching them to the pins on gpu. You could diy your own adapter very cheaply with some wire and male/female pcb headers (tho this won't be as 'safe' because you won't have reverse connection prevention and might short things out if connected wrong but you are modding the gpu anyway)
@@Bimboms undervolting is gambling. Even if you test it for hours on end, nothing is as good as the factory validation. For CPUs we have some of the same software the factory uses, but for GPUs we don't, AFAIK. So, sure, you can run whatever stress test and it can be stable all day long, but it'll never guarantee you'll never ever encounter stability issues.
I have what is arguably an SFF case and I still did the mod.
@@ZonaALG well I just used some wires and "plugged" the fans into the gpu headder
I love how asus isn’t afraid to take risks and innovate. Probably my favorite tech company just cuz they embrace the crazy shit while also making high quality products
With the 4090 out this is now just a normal sized cooler
Major Hardware did a CZcams video similar to this only be 3D printed the shroud for the fans to match as closely as possible the media shots of the card before it shipped.
Obviously since it hadn't shipped yet, he wasnt able to compare real world performance between the real deal and his copy, but it's a great video!
czcams.com/video/rJDWBE1hBEs/video.html&ab_channel=MajorHardware
It's always nice to link a video you talk ablout :p
I've been so surprised that more people haven't even seen that video yet
@@Acaykath sweet, thanks! I didn't realize you could link other videos without it getting flagged as spam!
@@NickMirambeau Agreed! All of his videos are top notch!
@@NickMirambeau As long as it's a youtube video, it's free game. Others, I don't have any idea how the algorithm works.
Good on you G.Skill for actually naming your RAM in a way that's distinguishable from DDR4 varients. I knew I liked those guys. Also, that Crystal style GPU on the bench is gorgeous. Would go well with Triden Z Royals I need a prettier card... unfortunately for me even if I could afford it good luck getting one. lol
12:13 Looks like the card is about to burst into flames with that smoke animation on the monitor 😄
You can make that work with 0 issues. I have a Zotac 1070 and naturally both fans died because... it's Zotac.
Removed the shroud, zip-tied two 120mm Noctua to the heatsink and connected them with a Y-adapter directly (!) to the GPU. The GPU has no issues with delivering enough power to the fans because they actually use less power than the original fans and fan speed control via Afterburner works flawlessly.
Now it's super silent any at least 6-7° cooler than before (maybe even more).
I hope they keep this collaboration going for the next gen as well, I kind of want one
Why did we not get to see it in "P" Mode? Why did we not get to see the performance with fans speeds locked at 100% to see if the GPU temp was super chilled?
So much missing :(
The GPU paste could make a difference also if you had the fans set to system and made a custom curve you could see better temps. I do this with my GPU because I have the ASUS phoenix 1660 super, putting a 120mm fan and doing a custom curve as well as undervolting has helped me tame the beast. I no longer have temps of 90*C I typically max out at like 75 but stay around 60-65 now. Oh and despite the undervolt I actually have a slight overclock as well.
I kinda want one of these to put in a case with a vertical GPU mount just because the shroud looks like the face of an owl.