Yamaha MG10XU Follow-up: Setup, Sweet Spot and Samples (low audio is my fault)
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- čas přidán 7. 08. 2024
- EDIT: Sorry about the low audio levels of the recording - this was one of my earlier videos and I was trying to do too much at once
Now that I've been running the MG10XU board for a year or so, it seemed like a good time for a follow-up video with...
0:00 A quick review of why I chose this board in the first place
2:00 The real world "sweet spot" for this board (IMO)
2:45 My board setup for practice and small venue gigs
4:00 Additional equipment to make this video
6:25 Live sound from the board w/FX
7:40 Summary
For the "live sound" segment, I'm using a Turbosound iP2000 column array speaker, recorded with a Zoom H6 using the standard X/Y capsule, a MXL-990 condenser, and directly from the board. I'm also using FX #2: Reverb on the board.
I still wish this board had compressors on all (4) of the XLR/combo channels and some combination FX (i.s. chorus + reverb). It would also be splendid to have sweepable mids and individual monitor sends for each channel. But those are just pennies in the wishing well, so life goes on - LOL.
Final analysis: IMO, this board works BEST running live sound for a 3-5pc band, in smaller venues (50-100 people) or practices with...
- 1-4 vocals
- 1-2 guitars
- 1-2 keyboards
- (backing tracks)
- Bass and Drums on their own (NO signals thru the board)
- Board is on-stage, on a mic-stand, run by a band member
If this video has helped your decision making process, that's my goal, so please give it a thumbs up or drop a comment below. I read and reply to ALL comments, and look forward to hearing your thoughts on this follow-up video for the MG10XU live sound mixer from Yamaha.
PS: ABOUT THE ON-BOARD EFFECTS (10-05-20)
Many people complain about the MG's digital effects - and I get it.
While better than nothing, none of the on-board effects are suitable for home studio use (IMO) because you can achieve SO much more control and flexibility inside a DAW.
Personally, I've been running this little board for over a year, and settled on the second reverb patch; which sounds perfectly fine for our band rehearsal and small venue performances.
However, if you absolutely need to upgrade the FX for whatever reason, here is the cheapest and most highly rated option I can find for doing so using the FX loop function...
www.sweetwater.com/store/deta...
Although I wish it had more than two "combo" effects, ALL of the effects seem to provide quite a step up in quality from the on-board options.
(JM2C as I haven't personally tried it yet...) - Jak na to + styl
From reviews I bought mine, love it! Thanks for a live demo, I see so many vids people showing how to use the Yamaha for podcasts refreshing to see someone actually playing music through one…you can not beat the value of this board…Thank you!
Congrats on your new board !!! Yeah, I don't do podcasting, just music :-)
Love how your explanation was clear & concise!! Shows your expertise!!?👍👍👍
I appreciate that :-) thanks for the kind words
The first video was good and i am digging this one too. knucklebump
Thanks bro - appreciate the good word :-)
Just got one and using as a sub mixer for live gigs. It allows front of band controls with fx for vocals at your fingertips. I am sending this back to my Yamaha powered mixer for front of house and 3 sends for fold backs. Yamaha does not disappoint and it's easy to use for greenhorns like me!
Dude... that sounds really cool, but you lost me somewhere along the way - lol - Can you post a diagram (or link to a diagram) of your setup ???
I just purchased a MG12XU as the new beginnings of my young children's musical education. The Yamaha ixers are proving to be reliable, so they will grow with it's age. The sampling rate, USB to iPad for Apple's Garage Band backing, awesome mic calibrations and XLR output make for a wise purchase. Unfortunately I am in Australia with 10% GST and convertion rate of about 68c to the US dollar, plus retail markup made my MG12XU $499. Everything is expensive in Australia, but incomes are lower in US so it's all different. Great mixer. Been watching quite a few happy Yamaha mixer videos. Their intruments and high-end home A/V amplifiers are really good too. Yamaha is a highly respected company. I hope they keep that status.
Congrats and thanks for chiming in - Hope all is well down under :-)
@@TheImageDoctor I think everyone fries in Summer when it's their turn to face the Sun. We've been fortunate with COVID-19 not turning into a full-blown pandemic here, but lockdowns and nation / border closures hit our smaller enomomy hard. I could probably imagine what locking down a much larger economy would do! We had our Queensland university promising vaccine effort shut down due to false positive HIV readings due to the molecular clamp tech they devised which worked, and even had potential to cure other things like herpes.
Music is a good way to stay creative and human as times get tuff. A mixer is for me is the first step toward building a better future for my children. Keeping it interesting keeps them interested. Some of the best artists started young.
Cheers.
Professionals presented......answers all my questions !
Hey that's awesome :-) thanks Lynn
Nice helpful video mate. Well done!
Hey thanks so much Filippe :-) glad it helped out - cheers!
nice set up. i got Yamaha MG10XUF and i´m still working on perfect set up with my hardware
Hey Arekkusu - thanks for chiming in - the "F" version (w/ faders) is a nice board - post another comment (and pic?) when you get yours all setup
Really nice video and tutorial ..thank you for that .well done 👍☘️
Thank you! Cheers!
Good mixer. Bought it yesterday. Very happy. All I need for a 4 men band
Portable, good fxs, good sound quality etc...
Cool - thx for chiming in :-) post back after you've used it for a while and share your thoughts
@@TheImageDoctor
I like. I used yesterday for karaoke. Good enough
Thank you! Your information was very helpful!
Cool :-) glad it was helpful and thanks for posting
thx for sharing.... i use 12XU for larger DJ gigs, and now 6XU for ceremonies.,.
Nice - those are both great boards 👍
Bought mg10xu with a single zlx 15bt home karaoke setup for a friend and it works really well, very simple and easy to use.
Coolio - glad its working for you and thanks for posting
@@TheImageDoctor hi bro. Can i use this for karaoke? Because i did not see any equalizer on the mixer
Cleansound ! Very good !
Thanks a lot - I appreciate it :-)
I really like the sound you got on that guitar with the MXL mic! You should record a song of what you were playing... I'd listen to it! Thanks for sharing
Hey thanks :-) I’m actually working up a couple of songs for one of those “virtual open mic” channels - I’ll ping u when it’s posted 👍
Nice video! ty. I'm considering this one for rehearsals with my band. Seems pretty nice for the price!
Yeppers - it works GREAT for our 3pc band practice. Personally, the more I use this board (for rehearsal) the more I wish there were a dedicated monitor send for each input channel. As it is, you get the same "mix" for the mains AND the monitors, though you can control the overall outputs separately. Thanks for taking time to comment Nacho!
Hey, helpful content! Thanks!! One question - I’m planning to use this to live stream my singing performance for a gig using a dynamic mic. Where on the mixer would you plug in the speakers (mine are powered EV) in order to monitor the live sound? I assume the monitor out section?
If everything you need for the livestream is running thru the board (mics, instruments, tracks, whatever) and you're using the USB connection to feed your board mix into your livestream software, then YES to using the L/R monitor outputs for your powered speakers
This was so helpful!! Thanks for taking the time to make this video. What camera did you use at 3:18 where you have the overhead view of the board?
The overhead view is actually a cheap-o-copy of a go-pro, I don't even remember what no-name-brand it is, but it works ok in that setting
Which XLR Cables Are You Using? I Love The Blue (Left) & Red (Right) Cover Bands Over The Connectors!
I actually did a video on that cable: czcams.com/video/9kaLSvkSYhA/video.html
Hello, thank you so much for this helpful video! Can I use the monitor output jacks to plug into my studio monitors? I don't have any other speakers.
thanks again!
Yes, you can use either the "monitor" or "main" outputs (they're essentially the same signal, just split into separate output jacks) - provided your monitors are self-amplified, as most are. Thanks for posting and glad the video was helpful.
Awesome 👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks :-)
Very informative video. I have an o9lder model and live stream using OBS but my recordings seem to be lower in volume than the standard. Is that a problem that should be corrected at the mixer? Thanks gain!
Yes - the board can produce solid output levels but you must use it correctly to do so. IMO, ch.1-4 are best for recording, because those all have pre-amps and a GAIN stage/knob. ONLY the gain and level knobs (per channel) have ANY affect on the recorded signal back to the computer via USB. The master volume does nothing for the recorded signal back to the computer. Here's how you get a proper recording output level: 1) use ch.1-4... 2) set the channel Level knob AND the Main Level knobs BOTH to unity (i.e. little triangle @ 3'oclock position)... 3) Bring up the channel Gain knob until the output LED meter it hitting between 0db and +6db.. At that point, you are getting the "correct" signal from the board, but you can still push the channel Gain or Level knob a little more for a hotter signal. Personally, I recommend NOT doing so, and using "Normalize" in your DAW to get your recorded signal up to the level you WANT it at in your DAW. Hope this helps - I probably need to make a video on how to best use this board for recording...
Gran video y admirable tu amabilidad y humildad en responder, estoy indeciso entre esta y la mg10xuf, que me aconsejas? Saludos y gracias de antemano.
El MG10XUF es un poco más grande y tiene controles de atenuador lineales en lugar de perillas, lo cual es genial, pero el MG10XUF no tiene el soporte para micrófono, que es lo que realmente queríamos para transmitir sonido en vivo desde el escenario en lugares pequeños.
Great video! Very very useful. I use this mixer MG10XU, since Covid-19 we have been streaming our church services via ZOOM. Audio for speakers at the pulpit is not an issue using a condenser microphone. My current issue is I would like to pickup the audio of the congregation singing and the pipe organ (no electronic output) playing and send that back to the ZOOM viewers. What is a good microphone to do that? I heard in this video the MXL 990 will pick up all the ambient sound? Thank you very much.
Thanks Gerry :-) and yes, the MXL990 will pickup a LOT of "ambient sound" in your room, probably TOO much - to capture "ambient sound" in a small church setting, you can use just about any decent XLR mic you have laying around - the native "audio quality" of the mic really isn't that important for capturing room sound - if you don't have any extra mics, grab 2-3 of these: amzn.to/3Gl7fKV
I am hesitating between this one and the MG12XU. For 2-3 synths, a pair of speakers and 1-2 mics which would be a better option?
If you have the SPACE, then the MG12XU is hands-down the more capable board. I wanted a small form factor board to run on a mic stand, so the MG10XU was my choice. And yes, with the MG10XU, you CAN run 3 STEREO synths, and 2 vocals, and still have two pre-amped channels available for other vox or instruments - all at the same time. You just don't get any of the signal routing options available on the bigger board.
Good video amigo
Gracias - glad it was helpful 👍
I learned some valuable information here, thanks. However, what I was searching CZcams for was for information on multi-track recording with the MG10XU. I want to record music adding one layer at a time, but I need to be able to hear the computer output in headphones without them recording them a second time. For the first track, I would need to be able to hear a click track. This would be best if I could have the headphones from the mixer so that the computer and its fan are at the other end of the room. I have not been able to work out or find out how to do this yet.
The answer is "maybe" - lol... The MG10XU does have monitor and headphone output jacks, but they all have the same post-fader mix - so you can control the total send level of the headphone / monitor output, but there is not a separate "mix" for monitors or headphones ... However, since it also has a USB port to use as a 2-in / 2-out interface (w/ 24bit 196khz sampling) you might be able to put your click-track in one channel (panned 100% right) and your instrument in the other channel (panned 100% left) - then you COULD use the headphone output on the MG10XU to listen to the click-track in your right-ear headphone - however, it seems like it might be easier to route your click-track to your COMPUTER headphone output, and let the MG10XU stand on its own as your audio interface - hope this helps get you where you want to be :-)
@@TheImageDoctor Thanks. I'll have to get a long cable extension for my headphones.
Is that your original song you played its awesome and yamaha MG MIXER is nice the effects on board are pretty good thanks for the video
Hello Don thanks for chiming in - the song (chord progression) is from my acoustic cover of "All this wondering around" by Ivan & Alyosha
Hi, always go to your site to learn more - Thank you!!! - i have this mixer mg10xu - i plug my compressor mic to line 1(all good) - i plug my Acustic guitar to line 2 (i can hear clearly via headphones BUT when we go live on youtube via OBS to Acustic guitar sounds does not come through - you can hear it, but its like if its not connected at all, super flat - im i doing something wrong? help.... keep up the great work!
Hmmmm.... without knowing your entire setup, it's hard to say what might be happening - and I'm not a tech support guy, but...
There are essentially TWO WAYS TO USE THIS BOARD: (1) analog live sound mixer; and (2) a digital audio interface - each use has a slightly different setup and workflow, and as you are discovering, it can be kinda glitchy trying to do BOTH at the same time
When using the board as an audio interface, I highly recommend NOT using the board's headphones output (or any analog output signal) for your initial setup - rather, monitor your DAW signal thru the computer to be sure you're hearing what the computer is "hearing"
Next, make sure you're using the latest drivers from Yamaha, not generic ASIO drivers (unless a generic driver happens to work better with your particular computer setup - sometimes that is the case)
Next, make sure you understand how the MG10XU works "under the hood" when being used as an audio interface - here's a nice tight description I found a while back...
"Regarding your MG10XU question, the USB output is pre-stereo volume control so the USB output level is controlled by the Channel output only and is appx -15db. So Make sure the Pad is off; turn up the gain until the peak led just flashes on the channel. This is appx -3db . Set the comp at appx 10 o'clock; and turn up the channel volume to appx 4 o'clock. This should set the channel to its maximum USB output level."
If that ^^^ doesn't help, go back to the basics...
Have you tried switching the mic and guitar?
Have you tried plugging into the other channels?
Are you using the Yamaha drivers or generic asio drivers?
What computer / OS are you using?
Have you double-checked and triple-checked the audio interface instructions above to be SURE you're setup correctly to feed a DAW ???
Thanks for posting and let us know how it goes
Hello, can those two 1/4 inch TS outputs (upper right) be used for powered speakers with RCA inputs simultaneous with the XLRs. So we end up with 4 powered speakers controlled by one knob only?
Yes, all four of the main outs (2 x XLR + 2 x 1/4") carry the same signal simultaneously
@@TheImageDoctor thanks! no compromise in audio quality?
I lOVE YOUR VIDEOS, GETTING THIS BOARD NEXT WEEK AND THE MIC STAND CONNECTOR. I was just wondering what mic stand you are using for the board because i need a stand that wont tip easily. Thanks again for the vids
Wow - thanks William :-) it really means a lot to know the videos are helping folks !!! I can testify... you are CORRECT about having a stable mic stand. Definitely don't want that little guy falling over. The stand I use (which is the one in the video) is just a regular "On Stage" brand mic stand with the three fold out legs - nothing special - and it works perfectly fine for my purposes. That being said, if I HAD a better mic stand I would absolutely be using it because... I actually DID knock over the entire contraption. In fact, I had also mounted a crossbar boom arm to hold my tablet on the same stand and right beside the mixer - so it was a little more top-heavy than just having the board. One evening I was moving equipment out to the garage for practice and missed seeing one cable still plugged into the board and the entire thing came crashing to the ground. Completely busted the boom arm, which (probably) cushioned the fall a little for the board. But the board definitely hit the floor, which was wood not carpet. With some trepidation, I stood it all back up, plugged everything back in and tested every channel and port. There were no issues at all and the board is still running like a champ to this day. So on that one, I'm going with 50% "got lucky" and 50% "well built mixer." :-)
@@TheImageDoctor Glad that nothing happened your board but it does say a lot for the quality of the build. Thanks for replying so quickly. I will get a good mic stand in the future until then it will sit on my desk, but running out of space so I'll have to save for another bit. Nice one buddy and again thanks very much
Awesome video! How do you set the levels? Do you want it staying below the yellow, or just the red?
The ONLY time I ever use the LED level meter is when I'm using the mixer as an audio interface, and then the target is "0" or just nudging the red - when using the mixer for live sound, the level meters mean nothing IMO
wonderful video, are you saying that you don't recommend to connect a bass guitar to this board?
Good question. You can run a bass thru the board, however - in terms of live sound - this is a small venue board with limited monitoring options. In those scenarios, generally speaking, the bass player will probably want to play thru an amplifier. Even so, you can typically come out of the bass amp with a line-out to the board, then you have SOME bass coming thru the PA, but the power of the bass comes from the bass amp - again, this is a small venue situation
Is there a simple way to run additional effects through this unit? I prefer a little reverb and delay for vocals, but the built in option is one or the other.
I wouldn't call it "simple" but there IS something of an old-school option...
You come out of the FX SEND jack (which is a 1/4" summed mono signal) and into an external FX processor, then out of the FX processor into one of OTHER channel inputs on the board, something like this...
1. ch.1 = lead vocal mic (gain up / vol. fader at 0)
2. Come OUT OF the board with a 1/4" patch cable from the FX out jack and INTO into an external FX unit
3. Return FROM the external FX unit and back INTO ch.2 of the board
So ch.1 becomes your "pre-FX vocal IN" and ch.2 becomes your "post-FX vocal OUT"
That is not a flexible solution, but IS a way to use an external FX unit.
Seems to me it would have been very easy for the engineers to create a true FX loop that would override the on-board FX whenever a cable is plugged into the FX jack - that would have kept the entire nature of the board intact while simultaneously offering a terrific option for "combination effects" via an external FX unit. For that matter, why Yamaha didn't include some COMBO FX with the on-board settings is completely baffling - heck, the FX are all software based anyway, why not add some combo options in a firmware update?!?!?!)
Anyway, of all the MG10XU's positive aspects, there is very little flexibility w/ FX handling. Personally, I'm ok with that because I use the board as it was designed to be used:
(1) a premium SMALL FORMAT LIVE SOUND MIXER w/ decent on-board FX, for small groups / small venues
(2) a hi-resolution 2-IN / 2-OUT AUDIO INTERFACE for home studio use
Stay on those two straight-forward paths and this mixer is DA' BOMB.
Stray from those paths, and frustration quickly sets in...
JM2C
Great demonstration..I have this same board, love it!
I have a duo …one singer, plays keys and I play bass, I don’t go through board but of course keys do and voice…I want to make a pro recording… is there a way I can capture my Bass going through the board for recording purposes only, but still using my amp for the patrons to hear? TIA
IF I understand the question correctly, technically, yes... but it comes at a cost. You can use the "FX Send" jack to bypass the internal FX on the board, and use the individual FX knobs on each track as a "send" control. By leaving all other channel FX knobs at zero, the only "send" going out of the FX Send jack will be the channel with your bass. The obvious tradeoff is that you no longer have the on-board FX, for ANY of the channels, which you may need for your duo to perform. The only other rec I have is this: if your bass amp has an FX Send or Line Out jack, simply run that jack into a portable digital recorder, like a Zoom or Tascam for under $100 online - JM2C, thanks for commenting :-)
@@TheImageDoctor yes, you got it..thank you for the quick response ..the latter method I am going to try ..thanks again!!!
Nice audio bro, do you have some actual recording video with your band? I'm happy to watch and hear the sound from your setup..thanks
Well that's super kind of you to say. We have some janky recordings, but nothing I'd share publicly - LOL !!!!!!! - and nothing that we recorded with this board. Fundamentally, it's best as a simple small venue PA board and not well suited for recording and live sound simultaneously; plus there's no multi-track output, so it never made sense to record band practice using this board - then we moved and the band broke up, so... now I'm using the board as an audio interface in my home studio and it's okay for that purpose, but I will probably upgrade to a Scarlet 2/2 soon
Does the Phantom power on 1-4 affect to dynamic mic when in CH1 is condenser mic and in ch2 is Dynamic mic that no need Phantom power?
Channels 1-4 work perfectly with consumer grade large diaphragm condensers or any hand-held dynamic mic. (Phantom power has no effect on dynamic mics but the board itself may not have enough preamp GAIN to really get the most out of certain condenser mics.)
I am running the 12 channel Yamaha board and I do Like I am in a duo and would like to run a OBS live steam do you have any suggestions on getting it up and running using the board thanks
I have used OBS but have never tried using the MG board's USB audio interface capability to feed mixed audio into OBS - but I don't see any reason it wouldn't work.
Can the flanger effect be used on the guitar? I know you can use it on voice/microphone. Thanks!
Yeppers - the on-board FX can be applied to any channel, regardless of input source (i.e. vocals, guitar, etc.)... just remember you only get ONE setting for ALL channels on the board
Quite an informative video. I'd love to know how you set up EQ for the board so that it fits the vocals, guitar, and even keyboard.
Thanks Brian - glad you like the video :-) Even though the MG10XU only has 3-band / 2-band EQs, it passes a nice clean signal (IMO) - so if you have good mics, amps, instruments, and speakers you should be getting a fairly "true" sound thru the board with EQ's all set to 12-o'clock - Ps. if you're setting ALL of the EQ knobs similarly to get a good sound (like by increasing all of the HI and LOW knobs) that means you may be trying to use the board to compensate for deficiencies in the speaker system - hope this helps
@@TheImageDoctor I operate a Yamaha emx5014c, no amp yet, but I am always having trouble mixing the vocals, keyboard, and guitar. Mostly EQ is the issue.
@Brian Wekesa That's one helluva sound board you have (!!!) so it's probably NOT the weak link in your audio chain - continually chasing the right mix thru EQ adjustments sounds like you're having to compensate for some other weak link in the chain - if the mics, instruments, and sound board are all good to go, and you're not running thru amplifiers or other processors, then its down to the quality and placement of speakers - in my experience, speakers (quality/placement) are the most overlooked part of church PA systems, and therefore can do more to affect (improve) the sound in a room than just about anything else - for rooms of 150-200 capacity, you can get a very good quality, name brand 3pc setup (2 satellites, 1 sub) for under $2000 - what speakers are are in the sanctuary now ???
@@TheImageDoctor 2 units Yamaha BR15
Have you made any progress tracking down the noise signal ???
Hi how much the zoom 8 6 cost and can I used with a Triton Le workstation keyboard.are you using with the software that can't with the mixer. are can I use it with a interface are Roland stereo mixing keyboard Amp KC-350.Thank You
The Zoom H6 is around $300 - yes it works w/ Triton, and works w/ DAW software, and it's all stereo
hi, i need a mixer to connect 3 devices. a mpc live 2, a drumcomputer and a synth. is this mixer enough? or did i need a mg12? thanks
Based on those three instruments, sounds like you're doing EDM (???) and the MG10XU will work great but may be more than you need for a small EDM setup - the Yamaha MG06X is a much smaller 6 channel mixer w/ on-board FX that might work perfectly for a desktop EDM setup, and it's cheaper too: amzn.to/3PVzq9P
@@TheImageDoctor i´m doing 90´s boombap, lo-fi and edm. yesterday i was at my local music store and took a closer look at the mg06 but i bought the mg10xuf. cause of the faders and you can mute tracks with one click of a button. thx for your opinion. best regards and have a happy new year!
Hi there, I'm a beginner when it comes to audio and would really appreciate if you can answer this. I have the same mixer that won't show the meter levels as you talk into a wireless mic. Does the meter only move on wired mics or is it suppose to move on both wireless and wired mics or is it somehow disabled without me realizing it? If so what is it that I need to do for this mixer to show the meter levels (the right of the mixer where the colored bars are at) Thank you so much for this video.
Interesting question because the output level meters almost never light up on my board - why? I just prefer to run well below the boards output capability, so I always have plenty of headroom to push something forward in the mix if desired - in fact the only purpose I see in having the meters at all is to visually indicate clipping, and that could be done with a single red-led - I'm NOT a professional audio guy, but personally I don't worry too much about the output level indicator lights (unless the sound starts clipping or cutting out, then i check them) - otherwise, as long as the signal is coming thru with plenty of channel gain you should be good to go
Great video man! how would you set up an in ear system on this board?
Hmmm... well technically you can come out of the 1/4” monitor jacks with a line level signal into your in-ear amplifier - just remember this board does NOT have individual monitor SENDS on each channel, only a single knob for the summed monitor output level, which is the same summed signal as the main outs but with its own volume knob - the ”not much but better than nothing” monitor functionally is one of the main reasons I consider this a “small venue” board
Hi JM2C, thanks for sharing your knowledge in this video, I still have a few questions though. To plug an acoustic guitar into channel 3 or 4, I need a DI box, but can I plug an electric guitar straight to any channel? Also.. what about the amps? I have for example an yamaha AC 90. Do you recommend plugging my acoustic into this amp and the output to the mixer so I can increase volume on the speakers? Thanks a lot!! Thumbs up
Whazup LuccaTS... You might need a DI box if you have a truly passive acoustic pickup, but if your acoustic guitar has a built in pre-amp (i.e. if it uses a 9V battery) you can plug it, or an electric guitar, directly into any channel ... however, you may WANT to use a DI box - for instance, I play thru a LR Baggs Paracoustic DI to get more tonal control than the board's eq knobs provide. There's no need to run your acoustic thru an amp unless you're using the amp for eq and effects, and/or as a direct monitor - personally, I here's how I roll: acoustic > para eq > board / electric > zoom fx > looper > board
@@TheImageDoctor thanks a lot!! That was very helpful.
I have the same one...it sounds all good.i have been playing around with it.I have similar setup and have extra cables from line in input and goes through a splitter which has a stereo out connected to it and goes to phone.So basically i can listen to what i sing and mix in my earmonitor and get a decent mix.But trouble is the stereo mix volume buzzez after a certain level...Any suggestions mate..thank u
"Buzzing" can be a hard to track down. You may try removing everything from the board except the stereo output cables running to your amp or speakers. Starting w/ ch.1, turn up the gain and volume to 75% (everything else @ 12'oclock and turn off the board FX.) Now slowly turn up the board's master volume and listen. Repeat for each channel on the board. Since nothing is plugged into the board, if you hear excessive noise on any channel, that channel could be your problem. If you here excessive noise on every channel, then there could be an issue w/ the board itself. If all the channels sound okay, then repeat the same process of testing each channel, this time using a cheap mic w/ a 1/4" cable, just to create a signal "load" on the channel. Check each channel independently using the mic. Again, if any one channel sounds bad, that channel could be the problem. If they all sound noisy, it's probably the board. However, before throwing in the towel, remember to double-test your output cables, amp, and speakers - just to be 100% sure it's actually the board causing the noise, and not a downstream equipment problem. Thanks for commenting Anish. Hope this is helpful...
Hi can you let me know your Mixer stand support the model? which website you purchased the Mixer stand with thank:)
Mic Stand Adapter / Mount = Model no. BMS10A
www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/BMS10A--yamaha-bms10a
Thanks for a very informative video. Question from me (and I do not see other "creators" address this question/issue). I use the same board (the XUF), and I want to know which outputs are the best for recording. I see you use the STEREO OUT, so I assume levels will be effected by Master Fader? The handbook says that the "MONITOR OUT" volume is controlled by the headphone adjustment. Which is the best output to digital recorder? I use a TASCAM DR-40 for recording (not for bands or music, mostly voice).
These days, I'm using the board in my home studio as a USB audio interface while simultaneously hooked up to my entire PA system for monitoring and playback, so I record via USB and not the board outputs. I've never come directly out of the mains into a digital recorder, but it will work fine for that purpose. In terms of output signal quality, the "best" signal coming out of the board is the XLR mains. You could run those into your recorder, and 1/4" monitor outs into your PA controlled by the headphone volume. But in all seriousness, one would have to be a pretty savvy audio tech to realize much difference between balanced and unbalanced signals coming out of this board - so you can probably use whatever combination of outputs that works best with the rest of your setup - hope this helps :-)
@@TheImageDoctor Thank you !
Awesome Video 👈👍👍
Thanks Samir - glad you liked it :-)
@@TheImageDoctor 🙏🙏
Smart setup... Sounds really good 👍 Im looking for a small mixer with a/u interface (has this one that? I want to use it with ableton on my Mac...
Yeppers - the MG10XU functions as a 2-in/2-out audio interface running 24-bit / 192khz native sampling - NOTE: There is a specific WAY to run this board when using it as an audio interface. otherwise, you WILL think that the audio "send signal" is not "hot" enough going into your DAW. If you decide to buy it, PM me privately and I'll send you the proper setup for the board as an audio interface
Great video could you please share with me where I would input on the board a single-powered sub bass.
Uhhhhmmmmm - if you mean OUTPUT from the board to a powered sub-woofer, I'd come out of the 1/4" (stereo) outputs but remember this board does not have a dedicated "subwoofer out" option - hope this helps !!!
@@TheImageDoctor thank you.😎
Dude, at first I was peeved you weren't pointing to the connections and cables you were talking about but after watching it all, I can now use my Yamaha. Now what are the four white and red RCA connectors in the middle of the board for? Thanks man! Also the Line and USB push button next to the RCA's? TY
Thanks for staying w/ the video, and I'm super glad it helped you out - The red/white RCA jacks are L/R INPUTS for channels 5/6 and 7/8 -
As for the Line/USB push button switch on channel 9/10, since the board works as a 2-in/2-out audio interface, that switch enables the "2-in" (L/R) from your computer - So if you have the board properly connected to your computer via USB (using the correct drivers, cables, etc.) that switch allows you to toggle between the L/R 1/4" jacks (on ch.9/10) and the outbound stereo signal from your computer
@@TheImageDoctor Duuuuuuuude! Thank you! I am now whole with this thing! And my son signed up for a radio/podcast class and I'll be able to assist him better now! UDAMAN!
How we can use 5,7 and 9 channel in Yamaha MG10XU with a dynamic microphone, which shows Line -10dBu Unbalanced. No Dynamic microphone is working with these channels. Pls help. Thanks in advance.
As a PA board, the MG10XU is designed to have vocals in channels 1-4 because those are the ONLY channels with PRE-AMPS (that's why there is a gain knob at the top.) Channels 5-10 are basically for instruments. If you really NEED to run (dynamic) mics thru ch.5-10, you'll probably want an inexpensive 1-4 channel mic preamp between your mics and the board
I have been playing small venues as a soloist with my JBL EON MK II and my guitar. I bought this board because of one place I play I need to control the base on my Martin SC13E. I have been trying to figure out the best way to connect my new Yamaha mg10xu to the speaker. I have watched some tutorials from "Kettner creative" and it was helpful familiarizing me with the board. You are the first player I found using the mixer similar to how I want to use it. One of the concerns I have is using a mono speaker with a stereo mixing board. Thank you for your time and any advice you have would be greatly appreciated.
Oh yeah buddy, right there with you. I ran my MG10XU into a TurboSound iP2000 column array for a couple of years, and actually liked it VERY much because the board IS a full-time STEREO board - yes some of the channels are mono across both L/R channels, but the board always outputs a stereo L/R signal, there is not "mono everything" option - using a column array speaker eliminates that issue completely by effectively making creating the entire sound field from a (rather rich and deep sounding) mono source - the only reason I upgraded to a TurboSound 3pc Milan system was because we needed more PA punch during practice as a 3pc band - but playing small venues as a soloist you are 100% good to go with the MG10XU and your JBP column array (and IMO the on-board FX are perfectly usable live in smaller venues) - thanks for posting ADVRX - rock on!
@@TheImageDoctor thank you for your time, I really appreciate your response.
We run three vocalists into the first three channels. We run a di box into channel 4. We use the fx send to our monitors which changes the fx dials on each channel to a monitor volume for that channel. That works great but is there a way to maintain reverb for each channel now that the fx controls are used for the monitors?
I hadn't thought of using the FX send like that - its a great way to get line level monitoring, but yes that would knock out the internal FX by using the FX loop
@@TheImageDoctor We were messing with it last night and low and behold, you still get effects! So it works as a line level monitor and fx control. The issue is that you get the chosen fx on all channels, even your acoustic guitar should you have one plugged in and want it clean. When you want say, more vocal from channel 1 in the monitor, you turn up the fx knob for that channel and you more of ch. 1 and more of the effect at the same time. Maybe using the parameter dial could help in this. I'll have to check that out.
That is super cool !!! gonna give this a try myself next time the guys are over 👍
Hi! thank you so much for the video. One question, to connect your electric /electric acoustic guitar you have to use a DI box, right? since this console does not have an input with Hi Z (high impedance). Best regards!
Yes, and no... I've run a regular 'ole electric guitar (w/ passive pickups) directly into channels 1-4 because those have pre-amps and 26db pad switch, but (IMO) it sounds much better thru a DI first - Most electric-acoustic guitars have pre-amps built in so you can run that into any channel
@@TheImageDoctor Thank you so much. Have a nice day.
CAN YOU HELP PLEASE !
Hello, I have a Yamaha MG10xu mixer.... I usually use it for live musical sessions.
This time I decided to use the usb function and connected it to my laptop. I installed the latest driver and use the xu interface in Cubase. When I started recording the waves generated but there was no playback sound to monitor the audio... I checked the output settings it says output xu1 and xu2 .... And my speakers are connected in Monitor Out of the mixer....
CAN YOU HELP PLEASE !
Well... I don't use the board as an audio interface, I only run live sound with it, but here's what comes to mind first... (1) make sure the USB button in pushed on ch.9/10 ... (2) make sure the level knob is turned up on ch.9/10 ... (3) make sure your Phones/Monitor volume knob is turned up - if you have the drivers installed and output routed correctly from your DAW, it should definitely be getting a signal thru to your speakers - hope this helps...
I don't have much experience with boards but would this one be considered to be a powered mixer or not? If it's not a powered mixer, how did your vocals come from the board at one point in the video? I am trying to figure all this stuff out and it gets confusing. If you have a keyboard with output 1/4" for L and R, can you go straight into a powered speaker or is it always best to go to a mixer first, then to your destination?
"Powered boards" have an audio amplifier built-in to "power" the speakers. This is an UN-powered board, in that it only produces a "line level" signal - not an amplified signal. It's kinda like a CD player in that it sends an audio signal, but you still need an amplifier to power the speakers. As for running thru the board or speaker-direct, if it's only YOU playing keys, no vocal or anything else, then you can definitely run directly into a powered speaker with nothing in between.
Can do summing from a daw with this mixer? Also is it pre and post mixer
AFAIK... the mixer does not support channel "summing" natively or thru a DAW - I don't fully understand the second question, but I think the answer is "post"
Great informative video! I have a Presonus AR12 which is a great mixer, however I like the control of the effects on your Yamaha. My concern is the point you made that you can only have one effect at at time. Can each channel have a different effect, or does all the channels haver the same effect that you choose?
All channels share the same FX setting, but each channel has individual FX sends/levels - IMO, the on-board FX are decent quality, and primarily to sweeten a live signal (IMO)
@@TheImageDoctor Thank you for responding. So do you think the effects are good enough for a recording?
@@williamhundley6536 if you want to capture a live performance, sure - otherwise you should always record a DRY signal and do everything in audio post production for maximum quality and control
@@TheImageDoctor ok I appreciate your advice! Thank you!! 😊
Do you have any advice on running a keyboard in stereo on this board with an acoustic and two vocal mics?
Sure thing... Run your vocals into ch.1 and ch.2 to take advantage of the 1-knob compressors - run guitar into ch.3 (or ch.4) to take advantage of the gain (knob), extra mid-range EQ (knob), and phantom power for a DI box - take your keyboard stereo output into ch.5/6 (or ch.7/8, or ch.9/10) for a combined stereo signal within a single physical channel on the board (you don't really need gain or much eq for a keyboard) - then you're off to the races :-)
I dont understand how to get this working with digital amp software for my guitar.
I want the USB connection to send the guitar to the digital amp on the PC, then send the processed signal back to the Yamaha and out to the speakers. Furthermore I also want the PC's audio fed into the mixer and out the speaker, so I can play the guitar along with some backing tracks playing from the PC.
Its seems to send everything into the digital amp and sometimes the processed signal from the digital amp back into the digital amp in an infinite loop depending on how I set it up.
I know it has something to do with the To Monitor and To Stereo settings but I just cant figure it out.
Do you have any experience / advice on the Yamaha + digital Amp setup? I use Positive Grid, but also have guitar rig and amplitube, same problem with all of them.
Yamaha Steinberg ASIO drivers are installed. :(
That's a good question (if I understand it correctly) and I do not have any experience running this into a digital amp on a PC - having used the board regularly (still) as an audio interface, I suspect you are correct in that it will be some combination of the 2 extra buttons available only on ch.10 - however, it seems like you're trying to use the same "line" (usb) for both the digital guitar amp AND backing tracks simultaneously, and I doubt that will work in the manner you may have in mind - and I highly suspect that even if you get it routed correctly and working, that type of "loopback" thru the board will have some latency issues - however, you COULD dedicate ch.10 to the USB connection itself (i.e. your digital amp or DAW) and then creatively use your computer speaker output jack (stereo mini) with a proper stereo adapter cable plugged into ch.5/6 or ch.7/8, then route your backing tracks to the computer output itself and leave your digital amp on the USB path - logically, that should work, but practically it may not suit your purposes - good luck and let me know what you end up doing ?!?!?
@@TheImageDoctor
Thanks so much for the reply. Quite the mess huh? :)
I kind of got it as far as that by involving the PCs output and I figured out how to use the button combination correctly at last.
Guitar Input from the mixer sent to digital Amp via USB.
Digital Amp output to PCs onboard Audio.
Output from the PC (which plays backing tracks and processed Guitar signal) into the Line-Input on the USB channel with the button pressed so it accepts the Line and not the USB and set to Monitor.
Speaker cables hooked up to the Monitor output. Done.
The only remaining problem is that the digital amp won't let me send the processed signal to my PCs output, at least not with the Yamaha Steinberg Asio Drivers. It works with direct audio but latency...
I believe ASIO4ALL has a solution for that but at this point I'll just buy a used USB Audio Interface for 20 bucks for the digital Amp and then use the Mixer to do what its meant for: mixing the different sources together...
Moral of the story:
Whenever there is a problem, throw some more money at it and watch it go away.
@@PineView80 - I've tried the ASIO4ALL driver in my DAWs and I've never been able to get the board working correctly that ASIO - "anything that you can solve with money isn't a problem... it's an expense" 🙂
Thank you very much for that awesome review..
Please since you are an expert about how to use this mixer..
I have one and I started to learn how to use it.
I had a gig that I performed and I sound muffled when i sang for my audience .
May you tell why I did wrong or how make the vocals clear and crispy sound..you know very clear and not muffled.. ??
Thanks for posting RKT ... without hearing your mix and seeing your setup, its hard to say what's making the vocals sound muffled, so my first suggestions are very basic: use a good microphone, check the vocal channel eq settings on your board, and check the eq settings on the speakers - beyond that, here's a simple list of three things to check whenever you have problems: (1) check your EQUIPMENT (mics, cables, speakers, etc.)... (2) check your ENVIRONMENT (room size, speaker placement, etc.)... and (3) check your EQUALIZATION (put vocals in ch.1 or ch.2, start w/ all eq knobs at 12'oclock position, etc.) - just work thru each of those variables until you find the issue - let me know how it goes
@@TheImageDoctor Thank you for your response... I will check that..
And also I already subscribed to your CZcams channel
That guitar sounds niceee
Thanks Nam - hope the video was helpful as well
@@TheImageDoctor indeed it is!! thanks for the review! very helpful
Hi tanks for the info, my question is, the recording signal can be sent to a different device,mini disc deck for example? Because i love the quality of recording results from this device, one more time tanks for you help.
Not sure I understand your question, but the only output options are: USB to a computer DAW, the main XLRs out, and the headphone/monitor outs - I guess it just depends on what input connection is available on your mini disc deck ???
Well i don't want to use USB port because there is to much tech for me, my mini CD recorder has RCA and digital optical conexión s, I am asking because you connect directly from mixer to the recording device turbo sound, sorry but I'm learning about this, perhaps the recording way is different because Turbo sound use sound card?🤔🤔🤔 Once again tanks for you help.
@@gustavoherrera5719 Understood - in that case, you probably want to come out of the 1/4" monitor outputs on the board, and into the RCA inputs of your mini-disc with this: amzn.to/3moUn2M
Hello JMC2 love the video. I have the same mixer would you share how you run your bass and drum backing tracks for a solo act. Thanks great content.
Certainly... FOR A SMALL GIG SETTING, I generally run vocals, acoustic guitars, and keys thru the board while leaving bass, electric guitar and drums on their own; with the exception of the kick drum which I DO run thru the board if at all possible. FOR RECORDING PRACTICES, I mic the drums with a small secondary mixer and send a line-level L/R signal to the Yamaha board (or we use e-drums directly into the board.) I also tap the line-out on the bass amplifier, lead guitar and keys (or mic 'em) so that I can basically get all of our signals into a stereo mixdown SCRATCH TRACK - which is all we really need from practices, and about all the board is capable of when running all 10 inputs (which I regularly do.) Hope this helps !!!
Sorry... I don't think I answered your question the first time LOL !!! FOR A SOLO GIG W/ BACKING TRACKS here is my setup... I come out of a Trio+ Band Creator and Looper with a split signal. I put my guitar/looper signal in ch.4, and the bass/drum signal into ch.9 which has a mono switch to bridge both 9/10 (which are actually L/R inputs) with whatever signal is in ch.9. I can blend the bass/drum/looper mix on the Trio+ pedal itself, though on the board itself I can also balance between ch.4 (guitar/looper) and ch.9/10 (bass/drums.) However, if you simply have backing tracks on an MP3 player with a headphone output, all you need is an RCA conversion cable and you can plug directly into ch.5/6 or ch.7/8 as both have stereo RCA inputs. You could also play from a tablet via the USB jack on the back of the board which feeds ch.9/10. (No bluetooth on this board, all cable connections) Hope THOSE options are helpful :-)
Hello , I have 5.1 speakers system and a Yamaha RX-A3020 Aventage receiver, can I use this mixer to do home karaoke or do I need another amplifier? Thanks
just feed your karaoke source into ch.9/10 of the board and your mics into ch.1 + ch.2 ... then come out of the 1/4” mains on the board with a 1/4-to-RCA stereo cable into any open L/R (red/white) channel source on your receiver - easy, breezy 👍
Could you please give a link to your column speaker? Do you have a video on the best column speakers for small bands?
Hi Dennis - I briefly cover the TurboSound iP2000 column array speaker in another video where I breakdown my ENTIRE sound system into separate phases...
Here's the complete sound system video: czcams.com/video/CSqoJA8OY7M/video.html
Here's the part specifically about the iP2000 SPEAKER: czcams.com/video/CSqoJA8OY7M/video.html&t=2535s
When I was in the market a couple of years ago, I listened to Bose, Behringer, JBL, Maui, Harbinger and all the other main brands I could find in person around town. Overall, Bose sounded the best at normal play/perform volumes, but was expensive lost its punch at higher volumes. Different units sounded better at different volumes / SPL, but for price AND performance across the board, I felt the iP2000 from TurboSound was the best bang-for-the-buck running $750 at the time of purchase.
However, the TurboSound unit has since been upgraded to a new "V2" model which runs $1000. At that price point, I would probably choose another speaker were I buying it today; and having gone thru the process before, I would ONLY buy a speaker I could tryout directly in person if possible.
Hope the other videos above help. Post back with what you decide :-)
JM2C
Let's say for a rehearsal room size similar to yours , 3 piece band. could you plug in an electric drum kit and work ok?
For rehearsal or coffee shops, w/ electronic drums, I'd say 100% YES because you can balance all the triggers (i.e. heads / cymbals) w/ the drum processor itself - so there's no need for mics, cables, stands, and trying to balance all those signals thru the board (not to mention having to mesh w/ the acoustics of the set itself) - just go right into the board w/a mono or stereo signal out of your drum processor and you're good to go :-)
Awesome video, how do you get it on the mic stand. Is there something on the back or do you have to have an adapter, and if you do need an adapter which one do you have?
Yeppers: www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/BMS10A--yamaha-bms10a
Thank you
Guitar sounds great with the reverb fx
Hey thanks :-)
is it possible to use an out from a guitar amp as a guitar input in that board. thanks a lot.
Sure - as long as the amp has a LINE OUT jack. (Do NOT use an external speaker jack.) Also, channels 1-4 have a 26db PAD switch to cut the incoming signal from the amp if its too "hot" (loud).
How do you attach the BSM10 to the Mixer. There are no holes on the bottom??
The ONLY Yamaha mixers that have threaded bungs for the BMS-10A microphone stand adapter are the MG10 and MG06 models - if you have an MG12, or even the MG10XUF (10ch w/ linear faders instead of rotary knobs) you wont find any provision for the mic stand adaptor - if you actually have an MG10XU that does NOT have the two threaded bungs, then I'm completely stumped...
Hello where is the solo button in this equipment, I want hear the channels individually through the headphones
Hey Ludwig - a per-channel "solo" button would be terrific but there are NO monitor functions on the individual channels of the MG10XU and I don't know of any mixers in the same category (small format, 6-8-10ch.) with that option - you DO get per-channel monitor functions on the MG12XU (and other cool options) but that's a larger format board - for the size and designed use of the MG10XU (as a small venue mixer) there's only one monitor send for the entire board, and it's the same mix as the main outs but w/ does have an (overall) volume knob, which is better than nothing I suppose but as I use the board (to run sound from the stage for our 3pc band in small venues) I've never used the "monitor" function or even plugged into the monitor send jack - but it would be cool to have a "solo" button per channel
Hey , great video ! I have a few questions. I kinda made myself an acoustic set up in a spare room .. I just have my mic and acoustic guitar plugged into 1 and 2.. then I have them running out of 1/4 stereo outs and both 1/4 lines are using the 1/4 jack ins for my harbinger vari 2312 speaker ..the problem I’m having is that everything sounds so boomy .. the vocals sound really muddy even without adding any reverb and the guitar is always so sensitive.. like when I strum at all you can hear the pic even if my guitar volumes are set really low on the actual guitar .. it’s a small room so that doesn’t help but I’m really struggling with the volumes and the vocal EQ.. I’m using a sennheiser e835 dynamic mic .. what’s the best way for you to set up your mic ? I currently have the gain set to about 1/4 and then have the volume level about 1/2 down at the bottom of line 1 for the vocals .. I have the main volume at 1/2 also going into my PA and have those volumes set at about 1/4 .. even when I mess with the volume levels up or down the vocals just sound like I’m underwater a bit and are always muddy .. when I add any reverb at all it makes them worst .. I made this setup about a year ago but clearly I’m not very good at it .. I do it bc I just love to play but I also want it to sound good and clean .. sorry for the ramble please let me know what you think . Thank you 🙏
Always SO tough to troubleshoot like this, but... remember you have a PAD switch just below the XLR inputs to drop the incoming signal by 20db - that may help tame the guitar... as for the underwater vocals, that's weird - your setup seems simple enough and I have the same Sennheiser mics, which I find to be brighter than my SM58's... basic troubleshooting: unplug everything and set every dial at 12-o'clock except the main volume at 0, turn off the FX, plug into ch.1, bring up main vol slowly, see what you get - if it's still warbly, change mics - if still warbly, try both mics in ch.2, keep going... it could be a bad board, a bad channel, a bad mic, bad cables, bad power - just eliminate as much as possible and work thru the issues ??? wish you could post photos of your setup...
@@TheImageDoctor thanks so much for reply ! I really appreciate you taking the time to get back to me .. I have a few different mics that I switch back and forth with . This whole thing has been a mess from the beginning.. my first setup was a tc helicon play acoustic, boss rc 500 looper , going into an alto speaker .. had a hell of a time separating guitar and vocals .. went back to guitar center and ended up buying a better speaker with 2 inputs bc they said that would fix it .. still couldn’t separate them so added a mixer in between and had to run the play acoustic, and the looper into dual mono mode .. worked ok but had a bad hum.. after months of trying to figure out the hum and guitar center telling me it wasn’t the cables , I switched them out and it was the cables ! They gave me TS cables and I needed TRS ( could be the other way around ).. so last week I unplugged the mic line from play acoustic and just went directly into the mixer bc I figured maybe it’s just too much and I’ll prob just do the same with the guitar bc I honestly don’t even use the play acoustic.. I have the high cut on for both 1 and 2. It doesn’t sound like anything is broken it just doesn’t sound like a clean vocal .. I do have a bass heavy voice so I’m starting to think that something in my EQ is just way wrong .. I was trying to learn how to do this on my own in the middle of a pandemic lol .. I listen to a lot of other people playing with just a guitar and mic and it the audio sounds so clear in the video .. I’m sure they are using an interface which helps and I’m not .. thanks so much for getting back to me . Is there a way I can email you ? I can take pics of my settings on the mixer and my set up tomorrow.. thank you again for your time
Splendid video. Can you run an electric guitar straight into the board (instrument level)? Thanks
Yes you can, and ch.1-4 have pre-amps for extra signal boost
@@TheImageDoctor THANKS 🎶
Great video. I use mine in studio for vocal mic and keyboards.
Thanks @maramind :-) do you have a channel on CZcams, SoundCloud, or ???
@@TheImageDoctor yes, thanks for asking. Here’s my latest and greatest music video. czcams.com/video/Y0qDZih0QHY/video.html
@@mrmaramind Sweet !!! Thanks for sharing :-)
I need to run three mics and two acoustic guitars to my MG10XU. What would be the best way to do this? When I plugged my acoustic to 5, it was very quiet.
I know right ?!?!? Seems like I always want 1-2 more inputs to make things work - LOL ... if your acoustic guitar has a preamp (meaning it needs a battery) then you should be able to run it into any channel on the board - If your acoustic guitar has a passive pickup (no battery) and is too quiet in ch.5-10, then you may need an inline pre-amp pedal, or you need to run the guitar into ch.1-4 which have preamps - not many other options...
I have a new LD Maui on the way and I am thinking of getting this to go with. Mainly acoustic duo. Both singing and playing guitar. Maybe a Cahoon also.
My question and I realise it's a really novice one.
Why have both XLRs going to a Mono unit. I'm just thinking should I be getting more cable also. 🤔
The MG10XU is a stereo board and unfortunately there is no way to force it into "mono" mode - to run a LD Maui 5 (or similar mono speaker) simply pan every channel hard left (or right) and run one cable from the (corresponding) main out jack to your speaker and you should be good to go
I'd want to use this to replace a standard Phonic powered PA which is mono and connected to two monitor speakers L And R from the back of the mixer with 1/4 inch cables. Will this work as a replacement? All I'd use it for is piano and vocals. Thanks in advance for any help.
I think the answer is YES (even though the MG10XU is not a "powered" board but is a stereo board.) Channels 1-4 are mono, meaning the incoming signal is routed to both L/R channels - also, the MG10XU does have 1/4" monitor outs - however, there is not a monitor SEND per channel, the same L/R main signal is sent to the L/R monitor channels, but there is a separate volume knob for the entire monitor send - hope this helps
@@TheImageDoctor thank you very much. I did further research and it's pretty much a modern mixer that's meant for powered monitors.
So for using a two person setup. How would you mic in a Cajon?! One vocal line, one acoustic guitar, and dual mics (front and rear) on the Cajon. I’m not sure which line would be best for what after dedicating channel one to vocals! Also, how should I set my volume on my speaker, how high should it be if I’m using affinity (the triangle) on my stereo out from mixer. I get a little confusion trying to put the levels together.
Without knowing your exact setup or equipment... I'd run Vocals in ch.1 and Acoustic Guitar in ch.5. For the Cajon, I'd run a "bass/kick" mic into ch.2 (for the compressor) w/ the HPF switch OFF, and a "sizzle" mic into ch.3 (no compressor needed) w/ the HPF switch ON and low-eq backed off. That will provide decent control over highs/lows for the cajon.
As for speaker volume, I run my (powered) speaker @ 70-75% of maximum all the time. That keeps the speaker's amp in it's "sweet spot" and gives me plenty of volume control at the board. Plus, there's always a little more headroom available if needed.
What is a “sizzle” your referencing. I’m thinking of getting an SM57 I have a kit of 7 I got from Pyle for my drumset. I’ve been using the overhead on the front of Cajon and the kick mic for the back. Thanks!
@@BackRhodesDrumming By "sizzle" I mean the "snare" wires/springs inside the cajon - your mic setup sounds fine to me, but if you haven't bought another mic yet, I highly recommend the GLS ES-57 - it's a solid clone of the SM-57 at half the price - get two and you're set for vocals AND instrument mics
Hello, what do you need and how do you record from the mixer. Can you please show me. Thanks
You can record digitally using the board as an audio interface, or you can record the (main) output from the board directly using a field recorder - I use the direct recording setup for this video, and I demonstrate the setup in the video
Which stand did you used for your Yamaha mixer in this video?
ill happy to buy that!
Actually it's just a regular On-Stage brand stand with 3 legs (not the weighted base)
Hello again. Can I use the XLR stereo out and the stereo out phone jacks at the same time? Eg xlr to two powered 15inc active speakers and the phone jacks in the stereo out to two 10inc active speakers?
Watching your video for the third or fourth time I see you have all outputs used so I suspect the answer will be yes. I just wanted to make sure before I bought 2 more speakers.
Sure, you can do that - I run my XLR mains to my PA system and 1/4" mains to my studio monitors
Cool so you can still use the monitor out too so you could have 3 sets of speakers in total or maybe even 4 using the effects send?
@@josephgonzalez9522 yes indeed, technically I think you can have 5 “sends” when using the FX loop trick, but of course one forfeits the onboard FX with that approach … 1 = main XLR and 2 = main 1/4 (same level out), 3 = monitor 1/4 and 4 = headphone out (same level out), and 5 = FX send trick - check me on that, but it should work
Fantastic thanks:)
Just got mines 🐯
Sweet - what'cha using it for ???
@@TheImageDoctor I am planning to use it Saturday, October 10, my Birthday to sing a few songs Live on TikTok from my new mixtape album "The Passion" that becomes available online everywhere the same day.
hi, may i know what 3pin ac adapter is used to power up it?
The power adapter that comes w/ the board is a "Yamaha ZS688600 power supply" - here is a replacement on Amazon: amzn.to/3aW8I0m - I'm sure there are other options out there...
@@TheImageDoctor thanks for the kind respond.
Does this mixer turn digital audio from a computer to analog from the output?
Yes, the USB in can be sent to channel 9/10 of the board
Nice👍👍👍
Thanks Yaj :-)
Perfecto
Grazie :-)
when you listened to the playback of the recording on the H6, was there any hiss behind the vocals at all? i'm worried about outputting via TRS because i'm worried it'll have noise. and also, what kind of wire was it that you used? shielded?
There was no hiss (*see below) and I used regular 1/4" instrument cables - but for maximum audio quality I would definitely come out of the MG10XU via the XLR main outs into the H6 using quality XLR cables - however, your question really has to do with the PREAMPS of both units - * Remember: the H6 and MG10XU are great quality "prosumer" level equipment options, not professional-studio quality - you will start bumping into audio artifacts if you really push things, but if you stay in the "sweet spot" of the equipment you should be very satisfied with the results
@@TheImageDoctor you're awesome. thank you!
@@prodigalus awww shux - lol... :-)
Can MG10XU handle recording a bass guitar direct? I have one and it’s great as an interface to record my classical and acoustic guitar, but I’m having trouble recording bass guitar direct. I have either too much signal or not enough. Any advice you can give would be appreciated. Great video.
Interesting problem. I run a bass guitar w/ internal pre-amp, directly into ch.7 and have no issues recording bass using the board as an interface. If your bass has no pre-amp, you probably want it in ch.1-4 which have pre-amps built in. Either way, try this procedure... 1) put your bass into ch.4... 2) turn the ch.4 gain (top knob) to ZERO (off), set all other knobs to default position, set the level (bottom) knob to unity (3-o'clock triangle)... 3) set the main output (bottom-right knob) to unity (3-o'clock triangle)... 4) slowly bring up the ch.4 gain (top) knob until the LED output meter is bouncing around "0" (the middle)... that SHOULD BE a proper signal thru the board as an interface into your computer - if the signal is too hot coming into the board, push in the -20db PAD button (just above the gain knob) and if the signal is too weak, make sure the -20db PAD button is NOT pushed in - wish I could help more, good luck !!!
@@TheImageDoctor thank you very much. I will try this.
Hi , I see you use the Turbo Sound speaker. I have this speak now and use the same mixer , what is the best setting on the speaker to use with the mixer ? I can’t find much info on line. Cheers
Funny you mention that... I just upgraded my speaker system last week and no longer use a single column array speaker - HOWEVER, I used the Turbosound iP2000 for a couple of years, and here was my preferred setup: (1) I always ran L/R stereo into the speaker from the XLR mains on the MG10XU board - - (2) I usually kept the speaker set to MUSIC or CLUB for the MODE setting, and FLOOR for the position setting - - (3) sometimes I would increase the bass and treble a couple of db and roll off the mids a little w/ the on-board EQ, but usually I left the speaker EQ flat and tweaked EQ setting on the Yamaha mixer (PS. I really, really did like the iP2000 speaker, and it worked great in smaller settings, but we ultimately needed more punch to play out live so I upgraded to a 3-point PA setup w/ Turbosound Milan series speakers - If you subscribe to the channel, YT should notify you when I finish the video for my upgraded setup - still using the same mixer)
@@TheImageDoctor thanks so much for quick reply. I am in a acoustic duo and only play in small bars and clubs with no more than 100 people so I think the TurboSound should do the trick , I’d love the Yam mixer and use it well for singing on Facebook live via OBS.
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@@efclee1 oh yeah... IMO you've got the perfect setup for an acoustic duo playing that size venue - and feel free to post a link to your fb live so we can follow - later daze :-)
Which channel input from the guitar?
If you play an acoustic guitar thru a DI box, run your guitar in channel 3 or 4 so you get phantom power to the DI. If you play electric, you can plug into ANY channel - directly from your guitar, or from your pedalboard.
Would this be able to replace a USB audio interface like a focusrite scarlett? Mainly I mean can it go straight to a computer and back to the mixer via usb?
Absolutely. The MG10XU and the Focusrite Scarlett 212 have very similar interface specs. Both function as a 2-IN / 2-OUT USB interface. Technically, neither unit is a true "multi-track" interface: The MG mixes all 10 inputs into a L/R output signal, while the 212 only has 2 inputs to start with. Both units offer 24-Bit / 192 kHz sampling, which is double the standard 96k found on most consumer level audio interfaces. If all you ever do is home recording or podcasting, the 212 is a simpler solution. For total value and usefulness (recording, podcasting, and live sound) the MG10XU wins.
@@TheImageDoctor Thanks!
@@TheImageDoctor so then, the mixer will playback the audio recorded from the computer to the mixer via USB with no latency?
@@prodigalus I don't fully understand your question but I think the answer is "yes"
@@TheImageDoctor i had recorded and then hit the playback button on Sound Forge, but the recorded sound came out of the laptop speakers and not into my headphones, which were plugged into the MG10.
What are the black and red cords
In THIS video, the red/black cords are in the monitor out jacks, carrying a L/R output signal from the board to a Zoom H6 digital recorder. The larger XLR cords take the main L/R output signal to the Turbosound speaker in the background.
(In my OTHER videos, I use the red/black patch cables for a split signal coming out of my DigiTech Trio+ pedal. The red cord carries the looper and primary guitar signal, the black cord carries the combined bass and drum signal.)
Hey what about running electric drums through this board, and which channel would you use. Thanks
Yes indeed... I actually ran e-drums (Alesis Surge Mesh kit) thru the board just about a week ago using a long stereo (L/R) patch cable into ch.7/8 - In my experience, e-drums and keyboards typically have plenty of "line out volume" to use channels 5/6, 7/8 or 9/10 (which do not have pre-amps)
I’m not sure of what kind of cable-would that be like a TRS on one end and 2 cable on the other end?
@@aallen7339 Your describing a common "Y" adapter which you should not need - Most e-drums have 1/4" stereo (L/R) output jacks - if yours only has a single output jack, then it probably auto-switches to "mono" output if using a standard 1/4" cable - simply run a 1/4" cable from your drums into ch.9 of the board, which is a true "mono" channel insert
Thank you so much for the info got it!!
How to use two effects together? I mean delay for acoustic guitar and reverb for the vocals
The MG10XU board can only apply one internal FX setting to the entire board - it does not support separate FX per channel - so the easiest way to do what you want is use the on-board FX for vocals, and pickup an inexpensive FX pedal for your guitar FX - here's a great option: czcams.com/video/T686vo6zoI0/video.html
Hi, I'm new to the mixer world and am not familiar with its properties. One of it that puzzles me is if I want to record off its USB output, does it output the audio clean and flat disregarding the EQ settings done, or the audio is with EQ adjustments?
Good question - as best I can determine, the signal is not "dry" but everything in the channel strip affects the USB recorded sound - the master output/volume and monitor volume of the board do not affect the recordable USB output signal
@@TheImageDoctor I also wondered if the mixer is connected to an audio interface and whether the interface also outputs a flat out signal.
Recording a truly "dry" signal is one key to flexibility in post production - i get what you're going for... but If your coming out of the board mains into a separate interface, the audio signal is still coming thru the board into the interface, so again it's not a true "dry" signal - the best you can get with this board for a "dry" signal is to set the eq knobs to 12-o'clock position (straight up), turn off the board FX and set the compressor knob to 0 - that is as "dry" of a signal as possible with this board whether you record via USB or go into another audio interface - for a 100% "dry" signal, just run your mic or instrument directly into a dedicated audio interface like the Scarlett 2/2: amzn.to/3tJKJrW
@@TheImageDoctor Thanks for your explanation .. so it looks like direct through audio interface is the better option to have the purest signal out...I saw some reviews suggesting that the M Audio Air 192 series produce some better performances...as compared to other makes in the respective budget price range...what would you advise on this?
@@Robekc I cant compare as this is the only interface I use - that being said, this is a good dual-use board, but if you dont need the "live sound" PA aspect, there ARE better audio interface options for less money
Can you use a dynamite and condenser mic running at the same time? Doesn’t the phantom power put power to every mic?
If your mics are properly wired internally (and most are) then phantom power will not hurt a dynamic mic or affect it at all - I keep phantom power on at all times on my board even though I only need phantom power on one or two channels 👍
Thank you!!! One more question, Can i use my guitar amp as the speaker?
@@josephgonzalez9522 yes, that's the standard use the pedal was designed for - just plug in and play
Yeah, my amp has a line in and line out so i should be able to go both ways. Thanks for your replies
Question:nWhats the difference between the “stereo out” and the “monitor out”?
Not too much - lol - they share the same master signal (mix output) but they have separate volume/level controls