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7 reasons the Yamaha MG10XU wins best value mixer - short review
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- čas přidán 15. 08. 2019
- AUG. 2020: NEW FOLLOW-UP VIDEO (setup, sweet spot, and samples)
• Yamaha MG10XU Follow-u...
ORIGINAL REVIEW...
There are hundreds, if not thousands, of videos and reviews of the Yamaha MG line of mixers. By the time you find this video, you should have a good idea of the overall features, benefits, drawbacks, and specifications; so I'll not bore you with more of the same.
This is a terrific little mixer for singer/songwriters, duos, and 3-5 piece bands. I've paired mine with a Turbosound iP2000 tower array speaker for a portable and super clean sounding $1500 live sound system. It's perfect for rehearsals and playing smaller venues (say, up to 100 people), not to mention a great audio interface.
For simplicity's sake, let's say that all the basic stuff you reasonably expect (in terms of specs and features for the price you're paying) is present and accounted for in each of the mixers in this category (at least to some degree.) So what differentiates THIS mixer over similar units from Behringer, Mackie, Harbinger, Soundcraft, etc. - and why did I chose the Yamaha ???
Here are the 7 reasons the MG10XU got my vote and purchase...
1. It's a Yamaha (everything feels solid and professional)
2. MG line has very clean preamps (especially for this size / price point)
3. Balanced XLR stereo output (not just 1/4" jacks)
4. Each of the (4) XLR input channels has HPF and 26db Pad buttons w/ 48v phantom power
5. 1-knob inline compressor (only on first 2 channels, but high quality)
6. On-board effects (no combo effects, but high sound quality, w/ 1-knob parameter control)
7. Custom mic stand adapter (puts the mixer right at your fingertips as a performer)
(For setup, sweet spot and samples, checkout the follow-up video: • Yamaha MG10XU Follow-u... )
AUDIO INTERFACE: Though initially purchased for mixing live sound, this unit is a terrific 2-in/2-out (i.e. "L/R stereo in/out") USB audio interface, with (up to) 192 kHz / 24-bit conversion. So you'll also find plenty of "home studio" videos featuring this mixer.
To be fair, there are some things about this mixer I'm not crazy about. First, there are no combination effects - for example, no Chorus + Reverb, just one or the other. Next, I prefer sliders for a faster read and adjusting of the channel send levels, and sliders are available on the (slightly larger) MG10XUF board for $259, but there is no way to mount that board to a microphone stand. It would have been great to have 1-knob compressors on all (4) XLR channels, and sweepable mid-level eqs would have been incredible. If this unit had these features, it may have gone down in history as one of the defining small form factor mixers from Yamaha - maybe even of all brands and boards of all time - and I certainly would have paid $100 more for it. But it doesn't, so life goes on.
Finally, and for the record, I purchased a 12-channel Harbinger mixer first. (Bought on sale, thought it was a steal, returned it a few days later.) Then I personally tried all other boards in this category that I could put my hands on before buying the MG10XU. Yamaha is at the high end of the group in terms of price, and you get what you pay for IMO; though one could get by with a lower price board in many situations, and most people wouldn't know or care. Still, these are the reasons I chose the Yamaha MG10XU mixer over the others.
I hope this review has been helpful for you. Here are several purchase links w/ additional written reviews for your consideration...
AMAZON
www.amazon.com/dp/B00IBIVL42/...
GUITAR CENTER
www.guitarcenter.com/MG10XU-1...
www.guitarcenter.com/Yamaha/M... (the slider version)
SWEETWATER
www.sweetwater.com/store/deta...
B&H
www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...
Mic Stand Adapter / Mount
Model no. BMS10A: www.sweetwater.com/store/deta...
FOLLOW-UP VIDEO: • Yamaha MG10XU Follow-u...
I just bought one, for small venues, getting a lot of favorable comments on the effects on vocals, quiet as a mouse, nice and compact.very happy with it. Great review
Congratulations on the new board - I've had mine a couple of years now and still use it every day for practicing my set - its just a great little board
Awesome video. Very clear and it helped me work out some of the functionality of this mixer that I was curious about 🙏
Awesome - glad it was helpful, and thanks for taking time to reply
Great vid - I smiled when u mentioned Reverb 1 - I've had this board for years and that is a great reverb
Right ??? I mean its not ultra-lush or anything but it works GREAT as a light touch on vocals
Nice mixer. I got the same board but with a 12 channel. What I love on this series is the built in compressor and its reverb effect for singing vocals. The rec out is clean. I once used this in recordings during election season.
Agreed - the clean pre-amps, compressors, and on-board FX were huge points for me as well.
Thanks I am very impressed with the way you showed every detail with this Yamaha mg10xu thanks for the information exactly what I needed
Glad it was helpful! Sidney - it's a great board and I'm still using it today, but primarily as a "mixing" audio interface !!!
Ive bn looking at plenty reviews .... and bro!
Youuuuu just sold it! Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Awwwright :-) thanks for chiming in and glad the video helped you out
Agreed very good do it all mixer. Use it for home recording and band rehearsals and small acoustic gigs. Super reliable and easy to use.
Thanks for sharing!
I just got one last week. Love it.
Congrats on the new pedal - and thanks for chiming in :-)
I picked up my MG10XU today. I was looking at the 12 but that was just a bit to large for my space. So far so good and it sounds better than the Behringer desk it replaced. Thanks for the review.
Cool - cool - glad the video helped and congrats on your new mixer :-)
great review thank you! I use the board and love it!
Thanks Peter - glad you liked it
Really nice video and very easy and simply explained and you spoke good English Thank you for your great review 👍☘️
Thank you! 😃 glad it was helpful
@@TheImageDoctor thanks for getting back to me ..do you have a link to the attachment adapter to attach the Yamaha mixer to a mic stand ? Thanks in advance for you time and knowledge .
☘️👍
@@whitefriars13 yeppers the link is in the video descriptions
So agree. I've owned several small-gig mixers and yamaha has been the best -- easy to use, great sound and works seemlessly with Cubasis for recording. No regrets.
True story: I've had no regrets with this board either, it does what it does and does a good job
i like how you did the seven points so i can just get the cliff notes ... thanks buddy good vid
It's a great little unit for what it is - glad the video helped out :-)
Excellent video,thanks !!!
glad you liked it - thanks for commenting :-)
GREAT VIDEO... LOVE THE BACKGROUND MUSIC
Awesome sauce - thank you for commenting :-)
This is the best review of any product I have ever seen. Two thumbs up! 👍👍
Thanks Chuck - I really appreciate it - I'm working on a new video now that should be ready in a few days!!!
@@TheImageDoctor
Thanks for the reply. Well you go into a lot of detail without going way off topic, or deviating from understandable English. Seems a rare quality in YT reviews! (Also visuals are super clear and the mounting feature for mic stand is something the product specs would often miss out, but such a useful feature!)
Buuut since your here...haha, I did have one question about this mixer that maybe you might know? (Yamaha's specs seem a little hazy on the AI detail). It has a 2 in/2 out Audio Interface, you say.
So if have 2 mics and 2 guitars plugged in, and connect via USB to my DAW...will this show as 4 separate tracks in my DAW, or 2 channels will share 1 track each?
Also (kind of separate but) the 2 analogue outputs are XLR, but there are 2 standard 1/4" outputs below it. All 4 can be used simultaneously, or only 2 outputs can be used?
Thanks for any help. I have 'subbed', and look forward to the new video!
Great review. Thank you
Thanks Eddie - glad it was helpful :-)
That's the main hub in my home studio. Love the sound of it. Pure, clean, natural and the USB output is stunningly good. I often see myself recording trough this desk, it's very convenient and with the fx send i use my BigSky, Deco for reverberation and tape fx for my instruments and vocals. Experimenting too with overdrive and modulation pedals as outboard fx, amazing job. I tried RNDI S before the D pre's and pushed them hard and they saturated really nice, got the nice colour from the Neve di. It's all around a great piece of kit to record on. I recommend.
Very cool - thanks for sharing your setup !!!
Are you able to hear yourself recording at same time hear playback from the computer without latency? I'm currently using a Behringer Q502USB Mixer and in order for me to do that, I had to loop rca cables.
nice concise, quality review... :)
glad it was helpful, and thanks for commenting
I agree! Great little mixer!
Yep, the entire MG line is a great series of mixers
i think this is the one i need thank you good info..
Thanks for commenting and I hope the unit works well for you!
100%. Couldn't ask for more ! Cleaner than the Mackie
Looks like an excellent blend of features, especially at that price. Everyone should be very conscious of which specific features serve their own goals, because there are a lot worthy choices within a hundred bucks or so - each with a different cocktail of features. I went with an Allen & Heath ZED series, cuz I got sweepable mids EQ and integrated power supply (no honking external rat-bulge-in-a-snake). But if you value the built-in compressor more, this MG10XU is a unique choice.
Several years later.. I'm STILL using the exact same board as my primary audio interface AND for my PA system - it just works !!!
That honking snake sucks balls! That's the main reason I hate yamaha mixers.
great breakdown thanks
Thanks bro :-) appreciate the vote of confidence
Excellent video content.
Much appreciated - thanks for letting me know it was helpful :-)
Thank you for the video. I got one and it does a great job. I’m using GarageBand and have a lot to learn. The mixer seems pretty easy too use I just have too learn how to use GarageBand better. Great unit.
Glad the video helped and congrats on your new board
Where did you pick yours up from? Any suggestions on where to start my search?
shoots I forgot which one this very well done video was a review of :D I'm really drawn towards the Emu MP7 & XL7 this will be my first time setting up to make my own music and diffe3rent video
What a great video!! I can feel the positive energy coming from your voice! great vibes... Do you know if there is a way to connect this mixer to my home theater system? I don't have powered speakers ... thanks for sharing
Certainly you can... just use this (type of) cable to connect the 1/4" main outputs from your mixer to any L/R (i.e. red/white) RCA input jacks labeled "Phono" or "Aux" or "CD" input on (the back of) your home theater system: amzn.to/3Rr1KS3
@@TheImageDoctor thank u so much.. my tv ,which i intend to connect to the mixer has an optical output for sound. Could u pls recommend a product i could use to connect it to the mixer?
@@mannyfilmsinc to go from digital-optical audio into the board, you will need something like this: amzn.to/3ym7Av8
I love it. just ordered it.
Hey Opus Love - did you get your unit yet ??? How do you like it ???
@@TheImageDoctor It's a gift from my girlfriend so I won't know 'till Christmas.
You need the sweepable mids. A reason why I’m upgrading to Allen And Heath 10FX
Very useful. Thanks
I'm really glad you found the video helpful. Thanks for posting!
Update:i hit buy on Amazon $209.Watched a ton of videos on this and many people hate behringer.and behringer seems to be runner up.i will swap out 1/4 in.mic cords for the xlr.this mixer is a 2014model,but people still love this
Yes, you can plug in 4 x dynamic mics (that have 1/4" cables) and you can control the reverb send for each channel
I use this with my small DJ setup. 2 Qsc k-10’s and 2 rca 705 asii. Sounds perfect
Sweet - I've been curious about people using this board for DJ'ing - thanks for posting :-)
@@TheImageDoctor the clarity, headroom and options are game changing
Hi im a Dj to and planing to get this only for Djing and not using a mic. Do you think the sound quality get a boost or better/louder/stronger sound if using this mixer over master out on lets say a Pioneer DJM900 ? Most videos on here are aboutt he mic. I dont have one and will never buy one. Wish some one on here did make a video only for Djs rigging up lets say 4 tops and 4 subs ,)
Nice review. I know you said that you can't mix/combine effects, does that mean you can only use one effect across all the channels or can you use for example reverb on channel 1 for voice and chorus on channel 2 for guitar for instance. I just ordered one but I thought that I would be able to use effects individually on all channels. Thanks for review and response. Andrew
Correct, the single effect selection / parameter is for the entire board - though of course you can dial the effect "level" on each channel individually. Great quality effects for a small board, but with limited utility beyond general PA use.
@@TheImageDoctor Thanks for the reply. I bought one and its nice, though I wish I could put reverb on voice and chorus on guitar. Wound up using chorus pedal which I guess is no big deal. I did want to keep it simple, but also I could not find anything comparable for the price. Thanks again.
Cool - I basically do the same: pedal FX for guitar, on-board FX for vocals
Good highlighting of features.
May consider one myself in all seriousness.
To be honest - an external PSU is not an exclusive to smaller "home studio desks" (I only say this as it's not likely to be found pride of place at Abbey Road, for example).
I've had desks that were bigger in format, features and price range...
Which still had an external PSU.
Power supplies are notoriously noisy and kick out quite a bit of interference - which can and will have an adverse effect on overall noise from a desk...
As well as being bulky things adding to size format
Great points ^^^ thanks for posting and glad you like the video
Hi mate, I have the mg 12 Xu and for the life of me cannot find any information anywhere either on CZcams or the online manual in regards to the USB connection and how to use it ? I have tried many configurations but get absolute failure every time.
Please mate, any ideas?
I’m sort of thinking I might be able to connect my iPad to the USB , and after plugging my guitar and vocals into it getting a recording from the USB into my iPad somehow?
Cheers and hoping you can help ?
🙂👍
I think the 10 and 12's are technically similar, so check out this link, pg.2, very bottom:
usa.yamaha.com/files/download/other_assets/1/331001/mg10xu_en_om_c0.pdf
Drivers are here:
www.yamahaproaudio.com/mg_xu
Thank you for a great review! I’ve narrowed my search down to this mixer, the Behinger xenyx 1202fx or an Allen Heath Zed 10fx. It would be used live for a male and female vocalist and a Denon dj controller as well as a keyboard. I would also need to connect an iPad for some additional backing tracks. I would appreciate any input?? Thank you.
Yamaha mgp 12x is perfect for what you want to do, it’s a bit more expensive but well worth it if you can stretch to it, you might even pick up a good used one on eBay
Agree w/ geespar1... the Yamaha is perfect for the type of setup you're talking about
Great
Nice way to explain
Thank for posting - glad the video was helpful
Awesome video man!!!!
Do you think the preamps are enough for a dynamic mic like the shure smb7?
That's a great question, and I don't know - my guess is it would "work" but based on the little I know about that particular mic, something like a Cloud Lifter would definitely be worth considering
Is there an decent external vocal delay stomp box that you could add
so you get reverb and delay, without having to add a full featured
vocal processor?
There are several, but if you're gonna spend another $100+ to run a dedicated piece of hardware via the FX loop, the stereo M100 from TC Electronics seems like a good fit at $125 - I don't have one but it's small, flexible, and reviews say it sounds great: www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/M100--tc-electronic-m100-stereo-multi-effects-processor
Should I replace my behringer QX1204USB to these?.. Mine have plus like Klark teknik effect, all channel have Compressor.. Tnxx... Is it worth to change this Yamaha??
Each mixer has its good points - the Behringer has a few MORE features, the Yamaha has better QUALITY features - which is right for you just depends on what you're looking for
Xenyx qx1202 or mg10xu, which one is better. I am building small home studio setup. Already have scarlet 2i2 interface. I am refering fx effects and compressions. Plz suggest....
The MG10XU and QX1202 are very similar. So similar in fact, I wonder if the QX1202 was rolled out specifically to compete with (and beat) the MG10XU - and it's $30 cheaper. For build quality, the Yamaha probably wins. For straight up features and price, the Behringer wins. I did try out a 12 channel Behringer board, but I don't remember seeing the QX1202 when I was evaluating mixers or I might have gone with that one for my initial purchase.
Very Good Mixer and Review!
But tell me please, does this mixer have an INSERT option?
For example i have a microphone compresor (like Composer 2600) and i need that INSERT for return the mic signal from compresor and so on.
And this is just an example!
It is this posibile?
Thanks in advance!
Personally, I just use regular 1/4" inputs, but I THINK that channels 1-4 do support TRS 1/4" inserts as you're describing
Alternately, there is an FX loop that definitely uses TRS inserts, but that's for the entire board, not channel specific
Hope this helps!
@@TheImageDoctor it's for the entire board, but you can turn off the rest of the channels you don't want to use, so yes he can use as insert fx
Although it doesn't seem that you use the USB/innerface, but I wanted to mention that it does have it and can connect to a computer.
Absolutely correct Maramind - the MG10XU is also a terrific 2-in / 2-out USB audio interface with 24-bit / 196khz sampling - thanks for chiming in :-)
That compressor alone is worth the money!💯
Indeed - just wish there was one on all four of the XLR channels
I have this MG16XU...nice time tested brand.
yeah in terms of quality equipment, Yamaha is on the better end of the scale pretty much across the board (IMO)
Hello sir. Thank you for the video of this unit. The XLR outputs are what I'm after as well... Quick question though... Can you use BOTH the XLR AND 1/4" TS outputs altogether ? I.E. - 4x outputs.... ?
Yes you can run XLR and 1/4" outputs at the same time - they're both "live"
I bought one of these used and guitar center today. There is something wrong with the left main out put bus so I am taking it back but it also has one of the worse frequency responses I've ever heard in a mixer which is stunning to me because i have bunch of other Yamaha stuff and its great. It sounds like its got some impedance issue but I tried out all possible variants of balanced/unbalanced, line, mic whatever and the issue persists.
I've never heard of THOSE particular issues with THIS particular board... but dude, that's really frustrating!!!
You go out during CV19 (which is an ass-whip in itself) and spend your hard-earned money with a reputable retailer for a brand new / brand name audio mixer that has overwhelmingly positive reviews online. You DESERVE to have the SAME experience. But you don't. Your particular unit turns out to be, for whatever reason(s), completely unusable. That sucks (!!!) and I can totally identify man - I've been there myself. Not with this piece of equipment, but with others.
Obviously this channel can't make things "right" for you - only Guitar Center can do that - but I understand the desire to post something somewhere about your personal experience. (When things go sideways like that for me, I often do the same thing - lol.)
If there IS anything positive to be said... at least you can take it right back to GC for exchange or refund. (Maybe that unit had been returned previously and accidentally re-stocked rather than being returned to Yamaha.) Yes - returns are a major hassle and you shouldn't HAVE to do that. But again (AFAIK) the MG10XU is NOT known for the the issues you're reporting so it's a pretty good bet that switching it out for another brand-new unit will fix all the problems. I bet GC will even let you A/B your existing unit side-by-side w/ another brand new MG10XU, just to make sure you're getting a good one (and make sure they know about the bad one too.)
FWIW, I had band practice this weekend using the same setup in my follow-up video with zero issues. We jammed for nearly 3 hours (running various combos of guitars, vocals, and a play-along track all night long) and the Yamaha MG10XU operated perfectly. As a matter of fact, the back panel was hardly even hot to the touch at the end of the night. I mention all this simply as validation and encouragement: the MG10XU is a good piece of equipment. Pretty sure you just got a bum unit from GC.
What do u need if you just Wana hook 2 subs and 2 speakers up to a lap top but have a deck for your eq but I want the eq 2 have a amp ? I'm trying to use as minnimal as possible
sorry - I don't understand the question ???
Thanks, for the video, I just purchased this Yamaha board, do you have a link to purchase the mic stand adapter?
Yeppers: www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/BMS10A--yamaha-bms10a
@@TheImageDoctor Awesome thanks!
Great review thanks. I just bought one but it can take a while before I get it because of the Covid19 Virus :(
Hope you are ok.
Chime back in when you get your board - let us know how you like it
@@TheImageDoctor I will. It looks like could get it today :) By the way, I bought the one with faders because I like that better.
@@TheImageDoctor Hi, I got the mixer a couple of days ago and until now I am very happy with it. The sound is so clear and you can hear everything in the music.
I can see that some people have said that it get's very hot, mine doesn't, not at all.
I have also seen that some people are saying that the earlier models was better and they now was made in China. Mine is made in Malaysia, don't know if that makes any difference but so far so good. Thanks again for your video.
Got this coming tomorrow. Hoping I can connect, Yamaha RX11 drum machine, Yamaha ex7 synth, Roland ju 06A boutique, Juno di synth, Roland d550 rack synth and Roland d70 at the one time? Don’t use mics recorded myself singing once and heard it back and realised best not to do that again haha!
Sweet - yeah, I wish I was a better singer too - LOL - but you should have a great setup w/ the MG10XU board - did you get the mic stand mount too ???
Request to please suggest if there are any affordable mixer audio interfaces, with EQ and compression features. I am more interested in compression and EQ than mixing many inputs, as it would also help with learning about the sound setup.
Behringer UMC22 seemed nice enough for connecting either dynamic or condenser mics. I have purchased a dynamic mic and an entry-level dynamic mic BM8000 already (had been spending a lot of time on youtube ), pop filter, and mic scissor arm too.
PC MIC port is giving 2.9V power which is driving the mics but needs high volume level to be audible
I have not been able to find an affordable option in USB mixers with one-knob compression.
in non-compression feature option
PTX-10 look interesting, and it removes the need for mix-minus
many A4 variants from china are also there
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Well, even if you don't NEED a 10-channel live mixer, the MG10XU DOES have what you're looking for: basic EQ and a 1-knob compressor for channels 1 and 2. In addition, as a 2/2 USB interface it samples at 24bit / 192hz, which is better than some dedicated 2-channel USB interfaces and at a comparable price - plus you still have a 10-ch live mixing board anytime you like. So all things considered, I'd still recommend the MG10XU for your purposes.
I have a yamaha stage pas speakers, can they be used on this mixer?
Yes and no... The Stagepass systems have a powered mixer and UNpowered speakers. So you COULD come out of the MG10XU into channels 1 and 2 of the Stagepass system... but you cannot go directly into your speakers from the MG10XU
I got a question for you for a karaoke 🎤 night in my back terrace what kind of effect would you use the most from this mixer. Thanks
Personally, I use no.2 "Hall" probably 99% of the time, but no.14 "Karaoke" might offer more of what you're looking for...
@@TheImageDoctor ok number 14 is horrible I’m going to try # 2 like you said thanks.
Couple questions if you can answer them from your own experience that would be the selling point for me!
1. Whats the frequency spectrum of the console? Hopefully it at least covers 20-20khz?
2. If I plug usb into the computer, can audio go from the cpu to the Yamaha? and in turn out the main outs of the yamaha
3. The RCA "in", is that 20-20khz or better? I just don't want to lose the bass-end of what I would have plugged in right there
I'm not a "technician" and have no way to actually analyze the frequency response curves of my own unit. Also, I'm not here to ping anyone... but have you tried searching for the specs or downloading the manual?
I looked (because I'm curious now that you mentioned it) and found the OEM specified frequency response (for the unit as a whole) listed as "20 Hz to 48 kHz" but I see no freq. specs specifically for the RCA inputs.
As for your USB question, the board functions as "24-bit /192kHz 2-in/2-out USB Audio Interface." So yes, the USB function IS bidirectional, with the USB input signal available in the 9/10 stereo channel.
Feel free to send my sales commission via PayPal ;-)
@@TheImageDoctor ok thanks. Just because ive had boards where the whole system covered the full frequency spectrum, but when you played some audio out the instrument track, you can hear there was like a 80hz roll off or something. It made it frustrating cause i couldnt plug in my bass and monitor my bass accurately
Hey! Great review, i just had a question..where can i buy the mic stand adapter? Ive looked for it all over and cant find it on the internet. Can you leave a link to where i can get one? Thanks!
Hmmmm - sorry about that. I suppose a link would help - LOL (and now added to the description)
Model no. BMS10A: www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/BMS10A--yamaha-bms10a
@@TheImageDoctor thanks! Gonna buy one now!
My must have is PFL. So for me I have to go for the 12XU with faders . Or the 10XU with faders on.
Indeed!
I would have probably opted for linear faders if that model had been available when I first purchased the MG10XU
@@TheImageDoctor I actually ended up with Allen & Heath ZEDi10FX. Unfortunately not faders on the channels, but include pfl and fader on the master mix.
You mentioned that the pre-amps are not particularly warm. Any tips on how you fix that. It's becoming a deal breaker for me. I have a basic 4 Channel mixer that gives me a nice warm vocal. Hard to switch to yamaha despite the extra features.
Great point... maybe I should have said it like this: IMO... the Yamaha pre-amps don't "color" the sound, so I'd describe the sound as more "clean" than "warm" - of course these are all subjective terms anyway, lol - as for "warming up" the sound, mic selection and speakers have a lot to do with the final "tone" and can certainly warm up the overall sound, but apart from rolling up the low-end a tad or using the chorus FX, there's not much else to be done on the board itself to "warm up" the sound
Use the high cut on the eq and the mid range.
Hi good day because i use yamaha amplifier ang my speaker is wired any chance that i connect that in my Yamaha amplifier any chance to help me tnx
Sorry - I don't understand the question...???
Great video! Any tips on vocal pedals to compensate for the non addition of dual effects? Thanks Sean
Thanks for the good word :-) and Yep... vocal pedals range from $70-$800 new - and do make sense if using this board for live performance.
Personally, I grabbed a used Harmony G-XT unit from TC Helicon. It offers pitch correction (via your guitar input), vocal doubling, multiple harmonies, and basic FX for both voice and guitar. You can even use it as an all-in-one-plug-n-play solution for the solo singer/songwriter guitarist inside you.
Check my other video at 38 min,35 sec for a few words on that pedal...
czcams.com/video/CSqoJA8OY7M/video.htmlm35s
As far as equipment options go in general, that video is also my personal quest for value and flexibility, all wrapped up in an "incremental" equipment plan, w/ multiple phases and price points, beginning at $100.
It's kinda long, but I tried to keep it interesting - lol...
Here's the most inexpensive option I can find ($123 new) to "upgrade" the on-board effects via the FX loop: www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/M100--tc-electronic-m100-stereo-multi-effects-processor
It only has two "combo" effects, which is a bummer, but ALL of the effects are definitely a step up in quality from the MG10XU's on-board options.
@@TheImageDoctor Thanks so much for all your advice. This has really helped me. Cheers Sean
Good mixer but I sold mine as the power supply was too big and there was no aux mix to do a monitor mix
Good points really would be nice to have an aux mix
That giant power box is a no-go for me.
Does the Soundcraft notepad-12fx better than this Yamaha? Thinking of getting either one for a 4 mic drum recording setup...
I have no experience w/ that Soundcraft board - I've used the Yamaha to mic drums but would have liked to have at least 6 x XLR inputs to do that - JM2C...
Can you use the Mic/Line for Speaker connection too?
Probably not directly, it requires a live-level input - but I never tried that lol 🙃
Hello. First, great vid. Iam from Portugal. I Will return to the store, an alto zmx122fx, cause i hear a hummm noise with my di active box and with my electroacoustic guitar. When i Touch the strings i hear more humm, this problem dont appears with my other mixtable studio master.
I think the peoblem with my Alto mixers is the pior litle no ground power supply. This Yamaha has ground supply? Do you think ill hear the same problem um Yamaha? Iam wondering to buy this Yamaha ir mackie fx8v2, because mackie have ground cable, whath your advice? This Yamaha or mackie? Iam affair of hum noise of Yamaha power supply
You have a great question but I have NO idea how to advise you for European electrical power - regardless of location, grounding is critical and if you already have "hum" in your signal chain, there's no reason to think this unit will "fix" the hum - sounds like you need a dedicated ground-fault lift / interrupter to remove the hum
When you go from your (L+R) xlr outputs to your speaker column, do you use just one xlr and go mono? If not, what is the benefit of going with 2 xlr’s if you only use the one speaker?
It all depends. If your only outputting live instruments, you can just use one XLR cable, since both signals (R + L) are the same if you leave the left and right knob at 12 o'clock on the mixer). Now, if you have a stereo signal from an Laptop (or any other stereo source), you need to use a Y adapter, that goes from L & R, to one XLR, that would then go to the single speaker. Or, you can run two XLR cables if your speaker has 2 XLR inputs. If you're using Virtual DJ, there's a way to change the Output to mono in the software settings. That way you won't have to use an adapter. I hope this helps.
Great question. I totally agree that using a SINGLE column array speaker sacrifices most of the spatial imaging from a stereo signal. But since both the board and column are stereo units (and I intend to get another Turbosound iP2000 speaker someday) I just run everything stereo out of principle I suppose - LOL :-)
@@TheImageDoctor Almost all live sound is mono. The problem with 'Stereo Live' is that only a relatively small percentage of the audience will be in the 'zone' of the stereo field, while most will be either right or left. If you DO use stereo, then pan most of your mono instruments closer to 'center'. For true stereo signals, connect the right and left to separate channels and pan each toward the center; IO.W., use LESS 'stereo.' If you have TWO stereo sources, then plug the left of the first into the left of the first line level ST input channel, and the right into the left of the second line level. Plug the second stereo source into the right inputs on the same two channels that you connected the first stereo source. Pan center, and you will have two stereo sources come out in mono.
@@brionbell Cool beans and thanks for the detailed follow-up :-)
@@brionbell I juuuust had that "all live sound is mono" talk with the sound engineer guy from "The Wailers" at sound check a month!!! HE said, "thats a longgg running standard / myth that I dont agree with or run."
They were playing about a venue here (about a thousand or so capacity, maybe) ... he had drums (toms, mainly) and a few vocal efx occasionally panning hard l, r across the sound stage .... and IT. WAS. BADDD. ASS!!!
"Stereo Live" ABSOLUTELY works ..... well!! :-)
Fantastic video!! Can you recommend cheaper mixer that has battery power for busking
I'd bet there are mixers that fit the bill all over Amazon, but none that I know of with the features, functions, and build of a the Yamaha unit.
It's best to create a mobile power station using one or two car batteries and a voltage converter. This will power the mixer and your powered speakers. I've seen DIY solutions that have costs that are just slightly greater than the batteries themselves.
and since we are talking about sensitive electronics, its probably best to get a converter that produces a true sine wave (JM2C)
I bought a QSC and glad I did.
QSC makes a great mixer - I still use this Yamaha every day for practice w/ my PA system, but have been leaning toward a Zoom Livetrack unit so that I can run live sound and capture multi-channel recordings simultaneously - just need to figure out a good mic stand mount for it...
Nice Review, Is USB help to use as Audio Interface? Thank you so much.
Yes, the USB connection is for use as a 192k/24bit audio Interface
@@TheImageDoctor Thank you.
Where would you hook up your subs on that mixer
When I had the TurboSound IP-2000, I ran directly into the speaker because it had a built-in crossover - when I upgraded to a 3-point TurboSound system, I added a dedicated crossover (used on craigslist) between the board and the speakers
Totally agreed ... MG10xu.. 👍🧡
whoop-whoop :-) thanks for posting
Are effects same in all channels? Can I put reverb on channel one and delay on channel 2?
The master FX setting applies to the entire board - you can adjust the FX SEND per channel, but cannot assign different FX to different channels - IMO, the on-board FX definitely help "open up" the mix in a live sound / small venue setting, but that's about as far as they go
Mi mezcladora se calienta en la parte de atrás. Y siento es una temperatura excesiva, es normal ?
Sí, es normal que el panel trasero se caliente mucho (estoy usando el traductor de Google)
If i use a condenser microphone on line 1, does that mean I can’t use input 2,3 and 4 with dynamic microphones or guitars etc? Basically making 2,3 and 4 useless?
Can i use my guitar amp as the speaker?
I think these questions were answered in another thread
Yes! I’ve watched so many videos and lost count and asked the same questions a number of times because no responses were forthcoming coming except from you. Personally out of all the videos I watched, i can honestly say yours was the best for information and solid explanation.
@@josephgonzalez9522 man that's so kind of you, and I'm really happy the videos were helpful - thanks for commenting Joseph
Hi im a undergrounbd Dj mostly playing Techno and deep,progressive psy. I never using a mic but hear so many say that i will get better sound quality out of the speakers. If i using a external mixer like this over using master out on my Pioneer DJM900 mixer. I thought the built in sound card in the Pioneer mixer was good enough. By the way my sound system are 2 x Yamaha DXR15'' powered speakers and 2 x Yamaha DXS15'' powered subs. Will a Yamaha MG10XU boost or better my sound quality ? Thanks ,)
IMO, you do NOT need an audio mixing board. Running your DJM900 thru a Yamaha MG10XU audio mixer will not "improve" your sound quality, other than providing some additional EQ and FX options, plus a "gain stage" which isn't useful in your situation. However, if you don't have a decent speaker crossover, THAT is one thing you can do to improve the sound from your speakers. Here are a couple of good, simple, cheap crossovers that should work well in your situation: amzn.to/3THxaHj and amzn.to/4aKRptN - Thanks for commenting and keep us posted !!!
@@TheImageDoctor thanks
Hello... im using this. But im facing one problem. After using 5 - 10 min it gets very hot. Is it normal ?
Unfortunately, yes - that IS normal for this board
when you say it's 2 in 2 out mixer, that means that you can record master left and right tracks into a DAW? so not like recording separate tracks for each channel? thanks
Correct Samuel. It's NOT a true "multi-track" recording interface, just 2 tracks (i.e. L/R stereo) from the computer into the board, and from the board into the computer.
@@TheImageDoctor thanks for the info!
Friend. Ask me a question please. I have a Mackie Pro FX12 and I would like to get this table from Yamaha. Is this table that you present in the video better than this Mackie that I mentioned? Thank you if you can help me ...
Functionally, the Mackie and Yamaha boards are very similar. If you already have the Mackie, its hard to make the case you "need" another board - unless the Yamaha has a specific feature / function you want...???
@@TheImageDoctor
And if i will purchase a mixer , mackie profx 10 v3 vs yamaha mg10xu you recomend yamaha ? Thank you.
Are those RCA phono inputs on the board and would they allow me to route my vinyl player through the mixer?
Yes, and Yes - as long as your turntable has a line-level signal, which most do
@@TheImageDoctor Thanks for the reply mate. I just ordered this mixer and I am going to connect to my PC for recording into my DAW which is Cubase Artist. :)
Is it possible to send effect 1 say hall in input 1 and effect 2 say chorus1 in input 2 ??
If yes then how ?
If no, then is there a way to achieve this with exceeding budget...
Actually what I want to achieve is I want a particular effect for main singer
And a chorus effect for my guitarist friends who do back vocals with me...
Is is feasible to achieve with mg10xu...
Or is there any other same price mixer which can help me to achieve this?
He just told you at the end of the video that you can only do one effect at a time. No combinations are offered on this unit.
Correct Jeffrey - no combo effects, and only one FX/AUX send per channel.
Using THIS board in the scenario your describing, it's probably best to run your singer(s) thru the board FX, with instruments running their own effects (i.e. a chorus pedal for the guitar)
I am curious to know if 48v is on... If I had a XLR condenser mic on 1 and a 1/4 jack Acoustic guitar on 2.. would 48v come down the 1/4” side of these combo inputs??
No - the XLR cable / connector carries a third prong specifically for power, which is completely isolated from the 1/4" jack.
Long ago, I heard that Les Paul (the guitar guy) actually created the first version of a "powered instrument cable" which not only provided power at the jack, it could run much longer distances without signal loss, interference, etc. Technically, since the amperage is so low, the power leg of an XLR cable supports a wide range of voltages. The 48v spec is the North American standard.
The Image Doctor Awesome! Thanks so much for you reply. :) wow I didn’t know LP did that
Is it better to connect to a DAW using the USB on the back or connecting using an audio interface?
This IS an audio interface, so just use the MG10XU via USB connection
Hi.
I have a question.
What's tha better mix, MG10 xu, or MG10XUF?
while I like linear faders on the XUF, I like the XU's smaller size and ability to mount to a mic stand much better
Hello bro..What is the title of your backround music??
Well, THAT is a good question... I'll have to look back in my files
It will manager 4 condenser microphone at the same time using 48v phontom power???????
Yep - channels 1, 2, 3, and 4 have 48v phantom available
@@TheImageDoctor Well this is the reson I ask. The one on the video have 4 preamp but Can not manage 2 conderser mic.
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did you forget to mention the USB Audio interface or did i miss it because i was fast forwarding :)
It's a fair point... the USB enables use as an audio interface which IS a big plus for the board and deserves mention - but it's only 2-in/2-out (i.e. stereo both ways, not a true "multi-track") and I already had a decent multi-track interface, thus my "reasons why" are more related to mixing live sound in rehearsal settings and from the stage in small venues - so absolutely: use as a USB audio interface is worth noting... it just wasn't one of the big reasons I chose the board
Regarding power supply does it run on USB too?
Nope, it must have the power adapter that came with it or same type
Great review, thank you! I am looking into this same board. Question.... Can you plug an "instrument" like a guitar directly into any of those inputs? The inputs don't necessarily say "hi-z" instrument. Not sure if it would still work when plugging directly in. I'm trying not to have to rely on a separate D.I. box to do so. Thanks for your help!
Yes indeed - you can plug a 1/4" cable into any of the first 4 XLR channels, as well as all the other 1/4" line inputs (see my additional reply to the active / passive pickup comment below)
@Seamus O'Dork gotcha... technically, you CAN plug a passive pickup guitar into a "line-level" input, but it wont sound good - so for practical purposes, the answer is "no"
I am confused between berhinger 1204 USB and Allen & Heath zed i10 FX and this Yamaha mixer . Plz advise
Sure thing... my "advice" is: Get the Yamaha MG10XU :-)
The Image Doctor thanks mate
Can u plz advise best microphone with this mixer suitable for home karaoke and recording ?? Also advise on wired or wireless , which one ll b better?
What about aux outputs for monitor speakers? I suppose this mixer doesn't have xlr outputs.
It only has 2 XLR outputs. However, it does have 2 sets (L + R) of 1/4" balanced outputs that you could use for monitor speakers.
Actually, there IS a dedicated 1/4" L/R line out for monitors on the MG10XU, but there is no dedicated "monitor send" on channels 1-8. (There IS a post-fader main/monitor send selector on channel 9/10, the AUX input channel.) The headphone / monitor signal is one and the same, and controlled by the (one) Headphone / Monitor knob.
i have mg10xu everthing great but it's get hot it is normal?
Everyone I've heard about says the same thing: It gets hot when used
I like this board. I have a behringer but only the 4 mic's have eq inputs. The 4 aux inputs do not.
Behringer makes a great board in this size. I especially like their combo effects options!
The Image Doctor i wish the aux inputs had eq settings
You forgot to mention its a 24-bit/192khz Audio Interface. And is also compatible with iOS devices.
Yep, you're the second person to remind me about the 24bit / 192khz spec as an interface (thought I had replied to a previous comment, now I can't find it)
Anyhoo... you're right: 24/192 is arguably the "industry standard" for digital interface sampling, although many other devices, especially lower-end audio interfaces, only offer 24/96 - which is still great, but the fact that the MG10 offers 24/192 sampling is AWESOME and provides 256x more resolution (i.e. sound quantization) than "CD quality" sampling, which is 16-bit / 44.1khz
A big limitation of this mixer IMHO is the lack of a pre fader auxiliary send for running stage monitors. B
Hard to disagree - having just one (L/R) "send" signal for mains AND monitors/phones does limit the uses of this mixer - thanks for chiming in Mad Ness
Could you hook up your subs on the auxiliary
Unfortunately, there is no dedicated output for subs - all outputs on the board are the same mix signal, although the monitor/headphone and mains have separate volume knobs - so yes, you can hookup subs directly to the board if there is a crossover in the chain
How do you connect in ear monitor system
Take the headphone or monitor output directly into your in-ear system
Thx. It's a shame they don't make rack ears for the 10XU...
It would be a neat option - FWIW, I literally still have mine on the same mic stand + adapter since I made that video LOL - it's just super hand to have right at your fingertips when standing up playing 👍
Does the master have a limiter on it?
There is no form of gated "limiter" on this board (other than the HPF's I suppose)
ch.1 + ch.2 do have one-knob compressors, but there is no limiter / compressor of any kind for the master send
U r lucky guy....u got the BMS 10 adapter for stand with d board....but Amazon is selling it for $60..in Indian currency. .n that's quite expensive.
Dude - that sucks, but glad you got what you needed
@@TheImageDoctor thnx 4 ur reply Sir !
How does this compare to the rcf 10xr
No idea - I don't have one of those...
I see an FX send for external FX but I don't see a return input. Where does it go and how do I apply it to the tracks?
Good questions... The FX loop uses a single TRS insert, where send/receive signals are separate but they have a common ground. The same FX master and channel sends work for the FX loop.
@@TheImageDoctor Thanks for the reply! So I could use a splitter of some kind to run, say, an FX pedal? Or just run the FX out into a separate channel?
@@TNTales yes, and I think you can also use the 1/4" TRS inserts on ch.1-4 if you only want FX on that particular instrument or signal
@@TNTales if I understand the question... yes.
Can you plug instruments into channels 2-4?
Absolutely 👍
@@TheImageDoctor especially with balanced cables or any other external units like an amplifier?
@@mjb12ification I mean sure, they're just combo XLR+1/4" inputs w/ pre-amps and PAD switches, so they should work - only difference w/ ch.3+4 is they don't have 1-knob compressors like ch.1+2...
Very good video Doctor :)
Could you tell me if I can connect my synth/guitar into the Mic/ Line inputs or only into the Line (unbalanced ) ?
I don't understand the difference between the Mic/Line and the Line only inputs :(
Thanks - glad you liked the video :-)
Personally, I use ch.3 or ch.4 for my (mono) guitar (and ch.1/ch.2 for vocals) but you can plug your synth/guitar into ANY of the 1/4" inputs on channels 1-10
However, your SYNTH probably has STEREO output, in which case you can take the L/R signal from your synth into one of the "combo" channels (i.e. 5/6, 7/8, or 9/10) where the left/right/stereo signal is controlled by a single set of knobs
@Seamus O'Dork Nope - you need a DI for guitars with passive pickups - or an effects pedal that has a line level signal output