Eric O. Unloads The Parts Cannon!
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- čas přidán 29. 07. 2022
- In this video I bring you along as I address a customer complaint of, "my car won't start after I get gas..... sometimes." It is on their 2016 Ford Escape 1.6 turbo. This is a relativly common complaint. I gave the customer the option to throw a part at or to wait untill it breaks for good. They chose the parts cannon! READY, AIM, FIRE!!
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Took my work car to the dealer for service today. I told the guy that it needs an oil change and that the money light was on. He looked at me and said “the what light???” I had to try and remembered what the correct term was! 😆😆😆😆
My first "real" fix of a car was replacing the purge valve on my wife's Hyundai. I learned a valuable lesson. Always look at your new part to see what all is supplied. After struggling for and hour trying to get the gas line off the valve, I ended up using a razor blade to cut the line off out of frustration. As soon as I opened the box to retrieve the new valve, I learned that the new one came equipped with a new section of hose and that if I had just disconnected at the opposite end of the line it would have slid right off and I could have had it done in less than 15 minutes total. lol...lessons learned the hard way.
I always look at the new part before I start the job to make sure it's the right part.
the hard lessons are the best teachers
Ay better a lesson learned then not get it done
that is the same as reading the instructions...."aint nobody got time for dat!" lol ..this is the way...
Experience is a rotten teacher - the test comes first, then the lesson....
Remember, if you don’t actually know the problem the firing procedure of the parts cannon is “Ready, Fire, Aim”…
lol true! that is the correct order according to the master course of parts cannon manual
Usually the parts cannon is loaded with shredded $100 bills. It blasts them out as a big puff of confetti all over the place.
Funny, it’s the same procedure in IT when management gets involved in issues.
Always start with the least likely and most expensive part, according to govt training…
Lol
Here in the UK, this repair method is often referred to as "parts darts"
Darts vs. cannonballs ………that’s why you lost the war!
Here in canada this repair method is called "idiot owners who watch youtube and think their a mechanic"
Well it's a parts cannon mainly because it is a shot in the dark. If you're real lucky you hit the issue.
You're still allowed to drive cars in the uk? I figured it would be outlawed by now, before California
As an engineer, I appreciate all the shots at engineers. Well done, Mr. O!
Shots at poor serviceability shouldn't be directed at design engineers, but at the organizations that limit what those engineers can do. If mechanics had to have every idea they had reviewed and approved by a committee, accountants and a semi-skilled worker who didn't like what he had to do to implement that idea, there would be few mechanics.
Well, I've always maintained you (engineers) should have to work on what you made (all of it ) like an old Chilton manual where they took apart new cars to figure them out. Most engineers (not you) have terminal tunnel vision.
@LanceNeves We have limited time, and there are trade-offs made. Serviceability is the first thing to get the ax.
If you want an automatic FWD V6 with all wheel drive, then you will end up with a bunch of weird stuff done to make it fit
@South Main Auto Repair LLC Eric O., your recent vid repairing the exhaust for the customer who requested to "save the wire" was touching, let's say. You and your lovely wife, and your family, are the BACKBONE of this country; it's a cheap cliché, but it's true --if you and your family can make it work in the PRNY, that gives real HOPE for ALL of us! +1 Like
Good wire ain't cheap!
The one thing I learned from watching Eric over the years is never move to upstate New York if you love your car 🚗 if the rust doesn't get you the mice will
It's the same where I am in NEPA. It's funny the NY city people that buy second homes all ask why most locals have beater cars for winter driving.
Great job as always. You are the last of a dying breed of honest mechanics who can diagnose and repair modern vehicles. No expensive dealer services required as long as you are around. The Peoples mechanic!!
“Try to be nice to your customers.” I like that! And we leave our wheel sockets on the passenger seat!!
Remember the good old days when you'd stand in the engine bay to repair it?
Ooooooh, I 'member
Still do on some vehicles. I work at a chrysler dealership mainly on trucks and diesels. Diesels don't have enough room to stand in but plenty room to lay on top of and reach for stuff. The v6 1500s I can stand in front of the engine and pull the heads off without taking the electric fans out
I carry a spare 283 in my '65 Impala engine bay.
@@ChrisTheBmxGuy k
Yeppers, years ago I was in a shop working on a Dodge truck I think replacing timing chain etc, had the fan off, rad out, etc, plenty of room. I was setting on the lower rad support w my feet on the floor inside the engine bay not paying attention, one of my coworkers quietly walked by and partially closed the hood and started yelling has anyone seen me. I yelled back a few times before I ever actually looked up and saw the hood.....lolol....
I went to tech school and didn’t end up getting a snap on scanner because of my credit. And the school didn’t pay for it into our tuition. So I work without one, and use a cheapo “scanner” my 07 Impala had the check engine light, codes for lean and gas cap I believe, but what I caught onto was it was hard starting right after filling up, that was the dead giveaway for the purge valve. Swapped it out because it wasn’t expensive, and I didn’t believe I had electrical issues, fixed it 100%.
From what you told us years ago when filling up with fuel, when the lever kicks off don't cram more fuel down the filler neck!!
At least not with gasoline motors.
@@marksmallman4572 yeah diesels don't care lol.
You don't do this in California due to the vapor recovery system on the nozzles.
@@LadyAnuB We don't have vapor recovery for diesel in Oklahoma. Just for gasoline.
Our neighbor State has a law prohibiting the vehicle owner pumping their own gas. On the rare occasion that I purchase gasoline there I have to monitor the gas jockey so they do not top off my tank click click click.
If I was the customer, I would be comfortable with your option "A", and want this done. It can be called a parts cannon repair, or it can be called preventive maintenance.
Agree. It's not a matter of "if" but rather "when". If the part didn't fix the immediate problem, it prevented one in the future.
Seeing how much trouble you had removing that air box assembly, I’m reminded of when I worked as an assembler building rotogravure printing equipment. It was imperative that everything we built had the maintenance technician in mind. Obviously that doesn’t go far in the automotive industry.
Cars are specifically made now to PREVENT them from being repaired. See: Dodge Grand Caravan, sealed transmission oil plug.
@@MrWolfSnack That does seem to be part of the problem. The other part would be the complicated mess of wiring, hoses, sensors etc that comes with modern cars to make them way more fuel efficient. And a third part is that cars are being made more and more compact, meaning less space to work in under the bonnet.
@@tjroelsma Yeah. Look under the hood of the new bronco. there's absolutely no way to work on the engine. also the newer ford trucks, to remove the engine you have to take the entire truck body off the chassis !!!!!!
@@MrWolfSnack And those are still reasonably large cars, so it doesn't seem to make much sense. Over here in Europe cars are much smaller, so you'd expect to run into this problem.
Having to remove the engine to work on it has been a common practice with some types of cars over here for quite a while. I had a Mercedes A class that had a really cramped engine bay, but the tiny little Smart City Coupe I'm driving now has even less room in the engine bay than the Mercedes had. With the Smart the engine has to be lowered from the engine bay or even taken out completely for standard servicing.
But it is a very handy and surprisingly fun to drive little car that's very easy to park, which is important to me as I live in the center of a very busy city.
Mercedes Sprinters are a pain to work on. First issue is the computer, who has access to mercedes trouble codes, besides a handful of people and the dealer. Second, the newer ones only use a sensor to tell you how much oil is in the engine. You get told when to add more. Very fun on an oil change when you can't just look at a stick and see what is needed. Forget parts, I even had to special order the engine oil from napa, most parts napa wouldn't even carry, but they did have the filters.
For Ford, my mom had a 11 escape, the transmission filter is in the transmission, but so is my old Jeeps. The difference is the Fords transmission is sealed. The only way to open it is to pull it out, and open the whole case, and it only opens in half, from side to side. No oil pan you can just remove, no filter you can replace. Even old vans with a doghouse are easier to work on, you just have to be in some funny spots. New cars are trying to lock you out, in ways that are done on purpose.
It's amazing that you don't cuss when working on some Ford vehicles. I do very much. And sometimes I do break brittle plastic parts. That is when the bad words fly...lol
Great Job Eric. Love your channel and your positive outlook on things in general. Your a master tech for sure. Thanks for sharing this nightmare with us....👍
That's because you don't have a Ford tool. It's a hammer with a really big head and a short handle to get it into those tight places. :D
A perfect example of planed obsolescence. So much crap to break, it will not last
You funny and entertaining by nature. It's like Mr. O's Auto shop class. 👍
Eric O teaching auto shop? I'd be interested to see how he deals with the smart ass kids.
Ya know, Eric, dropping a socket where you'll never find it is an example of the Law of Selective Gravitation in action. (I found my 10mm deep well 1/4" drive socket 8 years later when I pulled off the lower intake manifold on Nissan V6.)
Mine was the philips bit from my 6 way screwdriver lost on the same engine nissan vg30e 1990 model.
Isn't that issue only with the 10 mm ?
@@thomasfletcher4765 yes. A 10mm socket seems to have more mass than any other tool and therefore gets pulled down by gravity more often. I am trying to get a government grant to study this phenomenon.
@@ronjohnson8119 Excellent idea, Ron. In fact, perhaps you can establish a scientific corollary to LOSG? Let's call it the 10mm Gravitational Paradox. Whaddyathink?
@@JohnIsett brilliant. I like it!
Ah yes , the classic " there's your problem , lady ! " including the classic reach under , push push push , and " what do you want me to do ? snap it off ?! "
Is it just me or does the brake master cylinder reservoir look like a little alligator with a big nose? Bolts are the eyes. I would draw a mouth on it and send it. Good laugh for the next guy.
I can’t unsee it!
A drawer full of stick-on googly eyes.can improve any engine fixing experience
Looks like a cartoon character to me, but what ever you want it to be, interesting thought. Don't know if I would have looked it like that. Good post sir
Mike's been smoking that Loco weed again! 😂🚬
@@mariosaccoccio1688
Sir , you have no imagination.
Eric, if *you* told me it was time to aim the parts cannon at a problem, I'd light the fuse. Thanks as always.
goodness. watching you try to remove that air box was brutal, heck the entire job looked annoying really.... Great video as usual Eric O.
Automotive engineers have almost perfected the art of designing cars so they can't be worked on without full disassembly for any repair.
Looks like the master cylinder reservoir is staring at us!
You baffle me with your humor on the little noises and sayings under your breath Mr O. You're a great mechanic too! I'm slapping my knee laughing at your remarks my friend! I also feel like I'm right at the shop watching you
My daughter has a Ford Edge and having similar problems. Engine light and runs rough and sometimes not at all after filling up. I asked her if they keep trying to put more gas in after it clicks. They do. I told them not to do it. I sent this video to them. Informative and at the right time for them. Thanks.
Very common problem for a bad purge valve
Also, it allows for expansion when the weather is warmer.
I have a 2002 Durango that kept giving the check engine light every time after filling it up. One day when at the gas station, I happened to get a faulty pump nozzle at the gas pump, and I didn't know it. The safety click in the nozzle was broken , and I was just filling the car up and filling it up, and then all of a sudden PSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHH gas went everywhere and all over the ground, the side of the car, everything. I put the cap back on, more gas squirted out, and clicked it shut. Drove around for weeks, it took weeks to use up the gas just to get it down out of the filler neck outside of the tank, and the idiot light never came back on.
This is now 2 years later and guess what? The light still never came back on. I have no idea what happened but I believe whatever happened the gas sloshing around in the filler neck and around the cap from the tank being filled to overflowing must have washed clean whatever sensor or valve was clogged or stuck open that was causing the idiot light to come on. What a mystery.
Thanks for the heads up about Super Lube, I've had a hard time lately getting a food grade lubricant for my neighbors meat saw. He helps me butcher my sheep and I help him with wild pig or beef.
Like to watch your channel. I grew up in upstate, worked on a few farms, got to AZ and worked as a mechanic and tow driver. I like your style as a mechanic and the fact that you are so willing to share your years of experience. Thanks✨✨✨✨🌟
If you look at the back of cans a lot of spray silicones at the Auto store are food safe too
Amazing how current engine bays have become complex jigsaw puzzles. Cudos to the master!!
I can’t believe he’s using the parts cannon. At least he’s doing it with the customers permission. Love your videos, I’ve learned a lot watching you.
At least its a smart parts cannon.
I learned I don't have the patience to work on today's cars. Tools would be airborne and the language would be X rated
@@richardbambenek2601 I too have the tools with wings. And the mouth of a longshore man.
Experience allows him to be fairly certain.
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Thanks for all the great uploads Erik!
Always like your posts Mr. O. Always something to learn
modern cars....oh boy.. best film i've seen of hose, plastic clip nightmare
Another great video! Thank you Eric from south main auto !
Your comedy is definitely getting better ...love it!!
Very informative video. Thanks Eric
With your knowledge & experience you can make an educated guess & be right most of the time. Sure better than having a mechanic guessing multiple times & charging the customer for his wrong guesses.
Your comment of dropping the socket down to where you’ll never be able to find it just reminded me of my 10mm socket that literally jumped off my wrench, defied gravity, and jumped into the open air vent of the wife’s Sequoia when I was working on the radio. It happened so fast, I was below the opening, as it went in I heard it drop in, roll to the left, drop some more then roll to its final resting place. I tried magnets of all sorts, and I didn’t want to disassemble the entire dash for 1 socket. I recently traded in the vehicle and if anyone acquires a grey 2006 Toyota Sequoia 2wd, there may just be an old school Craftsman 10mm socket for you in it.
I use the superlube on air ducting as well. Thanks again Erico! Keep us posted please.
Great Job Mr. O
The commentary is the best!
I’m loving all the new content!
Ok , Happy Father’s Day , Mr. Eric, hope Mrs O takes you too dinner , from East Texas .
Big fan driving on 1-86E on vacation, stopping by your shop to take a pic!
Another great video, always enjoy your info
Thank. you for your candor Eric.
Great work Eric, awesome video!!
Great tip on taking pictures.
Nice job Mr. O...
Just love the channel Eric, but the greatest thing you are teaching me is PATIENCE. Really pays off for a mechanic.
Love the photo advice and then not taking said advice when Eric O's videoing the job and could use the video camera to take a video of the snake of a layout for the purge valve piping! 😂
Modern mechanic skill: Tetris! Use your cell phone to record the Tetris blocks before you mess with anything.
Rogue hair sighting @ 23:56 😅
I used to work in an industrial repair shop that was around the corner from 3 different auto repair shops. I still have Snap-On combination wrenches, a nice swivel head ratchet, hammer and a pry bar. I found them all in the street. Must have been left under the hood or wherever, and fell out during the test drive. The mechanics were constantly blowing past stop signs, flipping me off when I blew my horn trying to prevent a crash, so I had no issue with keeping the tools.
classic saturday evening car show absolutely the best...
Great job
Thanks, eric, I have a friend mine about a brand new ford twenty twenty three and it's a 1.6 I hope it has good luck with it. Thank you very much eric for the video you're the man thank you
Always wondered about the 'echo boost'..esp on the Mustangs. Another great job there Eric.. Kudos
Jobs like this makes me miss the good old days when you opened your hood and everything you saw was easy to work on
I feel like this is misguide though. Back in those days you had to work on your car every weekend to keep the piece of crap going. These days, yes cars suck to work on, but you more often than not never have to work on them. Not in a substantial way anyways. My Prius has 275,000 miles. Literally never done anything to it other than fluid changes. My old 1987 Chevy Beretta with 110,000 miles had a much easier to work in engine bay...but the problem was that I had to be in the darn engine bay every weekend to keep it going.
My old 70 Dodge Coronet was pretty reliable considering that it had 213,000 miles on it when I bought it. I usually would have to work on it about once a year except for the year it had a battery, the alternator and the voltage regulator fail within 3 months after a very close lightning strike. It caused a surge that briefly pegged the temperature and gas guages. The gas guage was never accurate afterwards. That old engine would start with just a bump of the starter after the first start of the day. Those old cars could be very reliable if you took good care of them.
@@isaackvasager9957 those Chevy Berettas where junk from factory floor.
Thanks Automotive Bob Villa!
Bob Villa didn't actually do any work. Norm would be the more apt comparison, he was the master carpenter
Nice job
Thanks, SMA 👍
It's also a real adventure putting a battery into those Escapes!
Awesome Eric O.
4:39 hey Eric, I've found if I give those clips that pop into the rubber retainers a shot of silicone spray, it helps them pop out easier.
yes indeed
💯
Best way to start my weekend with a new sma video. Thank you eric
Nice job sir
Eric,
Great video and fix - thank you!
SMA#1
Paul (in MA)
Fine job mr o
I’ve messed around changing plugs etc. on my own Escape and that entire 2 piece black plastic cowling under the windshield wipers comes off fairly easily with 5 minutes work opening the top of the engine compartment up back to the firewall. It sure makes it a lot easier accessing stuff towards the back of the top of the engine.
Thank goodness I don't own a 4 wheel drive but I do own an F150.
Very good job, Eric, thank you.
Glad to see someone other than me installing something twice! 😆👍
I worked as a machinist/millwright with a mechanic whose favorite saying was “Ain’t no job can’t be done twice” which would infuriate the plant engineer, as he wanted things done right the first time. It was a rare day that we had to repeat a repair job.
Awesome ending today, thanks.
Thanks Dr. O!
Who would have thought little Ole Eric O. Would be this FAMOUS? very nice job. Keep it up and get some soft serve ice-cream
Ford boss Rich just posted one of these. Great job Erik O.
What a hassle to remove that filter box! Of course Ford had to make a purge valve such a pain to replace. But like you said, check valves could be a issue later if another aftermarket part is used again. Another happy SMA customer!
Thanks Mr o I have similar grill and have cooked and ate 4 racks of ribs since the pit barrel video lol 😆 love ya buddy keep videos coming we will watch
The engineers should be required to spend at least a year working on any vehicle they helped design. I bet they would make them easier to work on.
Engineers hate designing shit like that. By the time we get to it we're already boxed in by the design team and the bean counters. Pretty pictures and $$$ rule the day.
I like your idea but I doubt it would help. Todays engineers draw with crayons so not much practical experience will sink in
It reminds me of an old saying. "A lazy man will work a good man to death!"
I say something similar and "service mgrd or shop foreman". They should alle required to spend a couple years in a shop wrenching for a living before being allowed to set in the managers chair. WAY too many of them don't know Jack crap about cars, much less have never set a wrench on one.
@@brianmason8400 No mechanic has to have his work reviewed and approved by a committee and an accountant before it can be executed.
Eric O. It is amazing how many plastic 2-liter soda bottles and aluminum beer cans go it to making cars nowadays. lol Good job Brother.
These purge systems remind me of the complicated air pump systems the manufacturers were forced to put on cars in the 70s. Band-aids for trying to meet emission standards back then. PIA at best, poor drivability at worse. Great video Dr. O.
Eric! Nice video again! Greetings from Germany
I had one of those check gas inlet valve light on my dash for a while. I managed to clear that one with a little WD-40 and working the valve back and forth. After that a couple days later my engine light came on. Code said P0455 Evaporative System Leak detected (gross leak/no flow). I youtube'd the problem and looked at a couple Ford F150 forums and most people talked about the purge valve on the engine. Looked up the part and there are 2 purge valves. 50/50 I make the right guess. My guess was based on the number of reviews for the parts. The valve on the engine had the most reviews (over 200 vs 1 for the other part), changed out the part on the engine and cleared the code. The engine light hasn't come back on yet. Crossing my fingers!
@Jimmy S I have an EVAP test on the scantool but I think it's faulty. I select the test and it comes back almost immediately as failed. The scantool I have was specific for BMW so don't know if it's looking for BMW parameters or what.
@Jimmy S Drove six hours round trip and the check engine light never came back on. Crossing fingers I guessed the right part to change.
It has a purge valve and a vent valve, not two purge valves. The one on the engine is the purge valve, the one back near the fuel tank is the vent valve.
Welcome back Boss
No horsing around, no mention on giraffing around. The lovely purge valve
Hey have a great day. Weather is great in Ann Arbor Mi today,
And once again, I love my VW. My purge valve is about 3 inches long. Got it for $17 at NAPA. Took 15 mins to change because it had 2 of those HORRID one use clamps. I replaced them with the good old teeny tiny screw clamps. Solved the not starting after a gas up issue lickety split!
Eric you didn’t let us hear whistle of the turbo!!!LOL!!! See you in the next video!!! Say hello to the lovely Mrs O !!!!!
Eric... you rock!!
Now I know why you don’t have a classic car , nice job Eric definitely great work…
Bravo!
Parts canon,or gut,probably the Wright call,thanks for the video.
Got 199100 kms on my 13 Escape 2.0L Had the evap assembly replaced at 187000km .So far so Good.
That dang air box was more difficult to remove than that spaghetti monster of a purge valve hose setup
If it wasn't against the rules, he could re-upload the video and name it 2016 Escape battery box removal. 😆
@@diymisfit_Mechanic_UDX404 😂😂😂🤣
Just did this with a friend on a friends 2.0 turbo escape. So tight in there.
Watching you amazes me. F-bombs and Sons of Fudruckers would be flying around willy nilly if it was me. You check yourself and make it look easy. Great job as always.
I was thinking why we never get Mouse nest in our car’s in the U.K. We do have them the as it’s not uncommon for our cat to bring one in which is fun. Love the job you’re doing today.
You are by far my favorite mechanic on u tube, never miss a episode and always wanting to watch again and again!!!!!!
good job...............
I just dealt with this on my Fiat 500 Abarth. Found a huge hole in the rubber fuel filler vent hose. I couldn't get gas in it either, and had a pending P0441 incorrect purge flow code. Under load it ran totally fine. I unloaded the parts cannon, got the afforementioned hose, purge valve, charcoal canister, and vacuum solenoid. Total cost? About $150 self installed. Problem fixed! Figured I'd get rid of all the possible causes at once.
Ivan would have fixed that with part's from an old washing machine 🤪
Made it look easy. It would take me all weekend.
I’ve often used the “WAG” theory in place of your “BFG” when relaying my thoughts to customers on common issues
Enjoying the Ford content. The channel was 'overdosing' on Chevrolet pickups.