Battery Dies Overnight - Used Car Guy Special!
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- čas přidán 10. 06. 2022
- Ahhhh the used car special! On this installment of "this old auction car," Eric O. tracks down a parasitic draw on a 2009 Chrysler Town and Country that he has no history on. Using conventional methods wasnn't working as good as he liked so he had to do a little thinking outside the box. Remember folks, follow the facts not your gut or a hunch! -Enjoy!
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For me the journey to the diagnosis is in most cases the bigger learning part of the video than the repair. Taking things apart & putting them back together I can do, diagnosing the root cause AND identifying the actual faulty component is the true art. Thank you for taking me & all your viewers along for the ride Eric!
That's why I watch Eric and Ivan. If you don't know Ivan, I suggest checking out his channel. Pine hollow auto diagnostics. He's got amazing content and I promise you will learn a lot.
Anybody can replace a component, only a real Tech can diagnose which component to replace
'The TIPM's hot. The Cluster's hot. The Radio's hot. My wife's hot...' Please send a replacement keyboard and monitor to me. They don't play well with coffee that's been expelled at a high rate...
I'm a 55 year old high functioning Autistic grandma who always enjoys the diagnosis of vehicle problems. it's because of you that I was able to take off the plenum on my 2004 Hyundai Sonata and reach the spark plugs to change them. I did it myself and I was so proud of myself. keep the videos coming. Thank you for all the hard work you do. love your family. may God keep you all forever safe.
Nice work
Go Grandma.
I think you've very cool! Great job!
Go for it!
WELL SAID!🙂
Maybe all my customers are actually used car guys. When in doubt yank it out!
That can get you arrested in several states sir 😆
*"Everything is hot, including my WIFE, but that has nothing to do with the problem!*
Best line ever!
Congratulations on your successful CZcams channel! Enjoy every video!
He’s not wrong 🦊
Ya, she is awesome and you gotta be paying close attention, cause he slips in those one liners when you least expect it. When Eric decides to hang up his wrenches, he could teach at the local trade school, and have 100 students hanging on every sentence.
@@slatsgrobneck7515 if they put their phones away.
He's right though...
Well said, 😁 Congrats Eric🌘🌒
“The TIPM is hot, the radio’s hot, my wife is hot”, and my coffee came out of my mouth and i lost it. You are too much my friend.
Your comments about being a broke used car guy was spot on. There are many “service guys” who have little or no respect for the ethics of sales guys. As a result these service guys want nothing to do with “selling” since they are compelled to be HONEST and TRUTHFUL. It’s in their DNA. However, you are exactly the guy I’d buy a used car from. Except a rust belt car, of course! I love everything about your videos. Keep ‘em comming.
My wife is hot is a great line.
Maybe he should ask Mikey Pipes to fix his house AC?
You should write "J2 fuse" on a business card and tape it into the TIPM. LOL.
"TIPM is hot... Radio is hot ... My wife is hot... " - Classic SMA humour!!! You are the best Eric!!! 😁😁😁
The dabbing bunny on the thumbnail is brilliance.
Very impressed from a consumer point of view. Amazing a "local" mechanic has this much knowledge across the board of all makes/models. A credit to his career.
Don't be amazed. It has nothing to do with location or training. It has to do with pride in work. Be mad 90% of techs have no pride or accountability.
@@RichardHeadGaming this is sadly true
Talked to a guy yesterday that used to work in the same dealership (chain) where I did my internship he has now moved to the sticks and seems to think the standard is higher there.
@@rimmersbryggeri Sadly you are 100% wrong, each tech sets the "Standard" on his or her own work regardless of location. I am a 30 year tech and my statement above stands and always will.
@@rimmersbryggeri unfortunately this is true also larger Chain shops don’t care about their customers and also they don’t have to worry about there rep as much as a “mom and pop” style shop because of the amount of customers the get were as the smaller shops have to fight them for their customers
Might sound super corny, but Mr. and Mrs. O got a great thing many probably envy. They've probably been married for what at least 20 years? Have kids, live together, work together, and still seem to have an awesome marriage in the honeymoon phase. Keep killin it!
Don't be too gullible lol.
@@giggiddy Adding a "lol" to the end of a snarky statement doesn't make it less snarky. Lol
They both have a great sense of humor which helps to prolong a marriage..
@@stevewhite3424 They are people like the rest of us and anyone who thinks they are on a perpetual honeymoon is probably fooling themselves. They should be proud of living and working together and remaining friends. That is impressive and certainly not easy. I'll end there but I admire what both add to the channel. Is it ok with you to add another "LOL?"
@@giggiddy Dude you use a lot of words to try to explain why you made a jackass comment. It was a comment that you would not have made to the poster's face in a million years but you feel perfectly safe to make do the anonymity of the Internet. Next time have the guts to say what you mean instead of your presumptive use of Snark. As far as how much laughing you do, I couldn't give a flying rat's arse but understand you're doing it to justify yourself not to Indicate a level of friendly humor.
In the past on chrysler/dodge vans the harness where the doors rotate, found rubbed through wires or broken intermittent wires, those bundles are really tight.
Just my tiny brain tinking.
Glad to hear you all are all natural, no fake auto shop here with the O's
thank you all
Nearing the *700,000 MARK* for subscribers!
*Well DESERVED!*
Glad to "know" you!
The repair is nothing compared to finding the problem. You were asked to find the problem and make it stop. A lot of shops would not give the option of pulling the fuse, so I applaud you.
Reminds me of an 88 4runner that had bad ground. Set codes for 5 different sensors. Added new ground and everyone happy.
My guy Eric up WAY too early today
You must not own a GSD 5:30 am, rain snow or shine 🐕
@@Dirtyharry70585 yep! Gsd here and every single day for the last 6 years 5:30 on the dot.
@@Dirtyharry70585 So mine isn't the only one who could tell time! She was often accurate to the minute for her routines. Smartest dog I've ever seen.
6AM ain't nothing 🤣 I'm at work by then.
Smart diagnose! Next step is reading the canbus
WOW....AAH.... so close to the solution - but no ☹cigar !!!!! Just have to do things manually now !!! I agree, just do what we were hired to do - find the problem, give the fix, and let the customer decide !!!!!! That's how the cookie 🍪 crumbles !!! (Soon to be a mice problem 🐀 with them cookie crumbs) !!! On to the next one !!!!!! Well done 👍 Eric - and a "Hey" 🤓shout out to Mrs. O. !!!!!! 😃
Could have very well been the 1st time in the history of the planet that the phrase tip the TIPM was uttered....
Exciting times !!!
New York is lucky to have a service man with your knowledge and skills. So are we CZcams viewers. Thanks
I always look forward to these virtual loafing sessions at the SMA garage! The time and effort you put into making these are greatly appreciated. THANKS from Indiana!
My grandpa used to say that there is a special place in hell for used car dealers.
As you were going through the modules,and mentioned rear wiper, and the cycling it made me think the wiper shaft was sticking,trying to park.
I guess lift gate malfunction was a similar thing, sees door as not closed. And trying to finish the process.the tipm needs closure before it can sleep.
That iced tea aint too bad!
Yup. When I saw the list of modules, my first thought was a bad door switch keeping things awake. And it might still be the switch, I don't think he dug deeper to see exactly what the issue was. I guess he stopped when he reached the point of giving an estimate.
I've seen that rear wiper park problem before. This video reminded me of one I saw on another channel. They found a rear map light halfway between on and off. It kept waking up the radio and cluster.
We don't get to find out because used car guy said, that's enough.
Put it back together, open the fuse.
It's next buyer can pay if they want to play.
Too bad the original owner accidentally damaged wires back there or had a bad switch killing the battery which has lead to it being a trade or auction car after Repo perhaps.
You can damage a cars wiring loom under the carpet or at the hinge sometimes.
I had a shorted rear turn signal wire like that and we found it when replacing the carpet. A ribbon-like flat harness under the floor covering.
I learned that I need to add a magnifying glass to my toolbox. Love your channel!
For some reason I can never keep a mirror or magnifying glass from getting scratched to uselessness
With a light.
Use The Camera On Your Cellphone .
Zoom In.... x 2 ... x 5 .... x10 ... Take Photos Enlarge Them .... Etc
Use Light ....
@@cheesecurd100s Get some self laminate or cut to fit screen/lens protectors.
They get scratched too eventually but you just pull it off, clean it with some brake clean or alcohol and then put another one on.
I think it deserves to be said again that if you pull the fuse that powers a module and the draw goes away, that does not necessarily mean the module is bad! Especially door and lift gate modules. I’ve seen way, way too many instances where modules were staying on because there was an input switch that would change state and turn the module on. Latches, push buttons for unlocking the door or opening the tailgate are common faults.
You lost me at “It’s a Chrysler”…. 😂😂
It is like working in a hospital and hearing the new patient with huge sores all over his body is addicted to heroin and meth. In theory both could conceivably be fixed. Also you could win the mega-lottery.
Chryslers can definitely be a handful to maintain.
This guy helped me fix my Prius brakes. I couldn't get the emergency brake cable off it's holder. Eric cut the holder open, cause the new caliper had a new holder. I used my Dremel & did the same thing... Thanks Eric!!!
That Mr.O...that's what a true master mechanic does as opposed to your typical tech at a big chain repair place that just fires the most expensive parts at the vehicle with the parts cannon. Then 5k later, problem still not fixed.
Maybe I'm crazy, but I enjoy electrical diagnosis. Most techs don't want to be bothered as they don't have the patience to follow the facts. I enjoy following along with you as follow the facts to find the fault. Not many have the patience, but you do. Thanks for the video
Every once in s while it’s good to hear another upstate NY accent from a happy exile playing on the farm paying one tenth the taxes down south. Great work as always.
Originally from Amsterdam, now in Tennessee(with a totally non rusted 2000 Excursion with the big 7.3). No state income tax and no state vehicle inspections. Funny, we don't have crap cars running around either...
Please call it it’s proper name. It’s the PRNY. Lol
@@billmalec tax on food? Buffalo here
@@billmalec For every luxury car a politican uses twentyfife worker had to use crap cars.😁
TIPM and Ship Em is a phrase thrown around the shop sometimes 😂, only halfway through the vid
"Not all cars from the auction are bad, but all bad cars go to the auction." Brother, ain't that the truth!
What a talent for diagnosis. Very nice work, very nice work.
Smart diagnosis. Well done buddy
Decades ago in my garage I also had a car guy enlist my dead time services. Some of the problems that would come up to solve was fun and he was a pretty sharp guy that taught me a lots too. A great way to spend some dead time and have fun at the same time.
My 2001 Cherokee had an intermittent draw from the wiring harness on the rear hatch. The boot that kept the wires clear of the hole in the cargo hatch that they came through broke so the wires would occasionally get a draw going on more humid/cold nights.
"Not all cars at the auction are bad, but...." Ha, that made my weekend... the rest is gravy.
"...why would a good car be at auction?" Somebody wanted to unload this shining example of automotive history.
Once again Eric O has the magical "find the broken wire" after a short period in this case multiple wires drawing amp from the battery. Keep up the great and proud work ethic!! Thank you Mr & Mrs O!!!
What ever the used car guy is paying you it’s not enough Eric, your knowledge is exceptional great post as usual Eric
So thoughtful of you to put the fuse back in with the do not refuse message. 🙏
Mr. O turnin N burnin em out! Makin’ everyone better car guys! For real though, you’re a logic spreader and you’ve helped me be more logical about these moving beasts over the last few years, so thank you
Thanks for explaining how you tackled this electrical short. Like the way you worked backwards in the end once you determined most likely one of the open circuits was the cause, and removing the fuses worked. Never had to deal with this working my own car but this is great to know.
And we would be broke without these videos.
That's what you get when you purchase a car from the "Buy here pay here" used car lot. Your diagnostic videos are great. 👍
Marking the fuse was the best idea. I was starting to write a comment the new owner will stick a fuse and boom, now you got the problem back.
The dealer is right. Most people (in that price range) don't care. I learned this 25 years ago when I was stocking a used car lot.
One of the most interesting repair videos I have ever seen!
Excellent teaching lesson about the function of a canbus network in an automotive application and the kinds of faults and failures that type of network can experience. I despise all the computer control garbage intensely but when you explain whats going on it seems nearly as simple as checking out the brakes. Thanks for another great lesson 👍
That process and Diag is next level stuff. Thank you for everything you have taught us.
How i used to do it,is unhook a battery cable end,hook a test light to it.It will light up with a ndraw on it,then start pulling fuses until the light dims down.See what that fuse goes to and start there.There's always .5 volts from the computer,but if pulling fuses does'nt work.Then it's usually an alternator or starter.
"We work for the person that hires us." But we don't cheat for them. Thanks for sharing! Stay healthy!
Great video. It seems to me that these cars from “used car guy” and the “auction car guys (one & the same, often?) are always unusual and interesting. You have the unique ability to take a weird mix of problems and sort them out. We all enjoy the journey. Thanks.
As a mechanic, I love watching your videos. There is always something to be learned in how to create a solid diagnostic process and STICK to it.
How I wish I lived closer . Shops are not so honest and the good ones are hard to find..I turn wrench for a living now 2 old and have health issues well enough Eric you're a great inspiration very good at the work you do 100000 % truly amazing and blessed 🙌 😇
Moral of the story… be VERY cautious buying a used car from the ‘used car dealer’!
Or from a new car dealer. My son bought a used Audi TT convertible. Very nice looking car but the dealer did not mention that the mechanism that powers the convertible top was on its way out and one of the rear shock mounts. Car was fine when he test drove it but had no warranty. Luckily my son likes to tinker with everything and he fixed it himself.
As per usual, Eric just displayed his electrical genius. Well done
Thanks for being real and truthful. The world needs more like you in the repair biz
Love auction cars! They are always interesting.
I could never in good conscience sell A vehicle with a known problem like that..at least without disclosing it..
I bought my nieces Volvo to fix and flip and it has a battery drain issue as well. Your episodes help me at least understand how to use the basic tools to trace down possible sources. Love the channel.
I could never be a used car salesman. I have a conscience.
Need a mechanic like this in north jersey. Nice diag doc!
Dang, master mechanic and also a master electrician too! Very impressive disgnosis.
Got a 2010 Ford F150 with over 300k miles, recently had to get the transmission repaired (which wasn't too bad actually). The transmission lost Reverse in the middle of last month, so it sat without being cranked and the battery died before I got it into the shop. Got it out of the shop, transmission is running great, battery is still kaput. So, load the parts cannon and replaced the battery. All is well so far, but I _KNOW_ someone has diddled around under this thing because it has wires that have been cut in the harness, the harness is electrical tape more than it is OEM sheathing, fuses and relays missing from the power distribution box, over amp fuses in the power distribution box. To top it all off, come to find out that the DIY manual publishers are squeamish about publishing anymore, as if I wanted more frustrations in getting this truck back in shape and fully functional again.
I need another SMA fix so I'm watching this one again!
I'm always impressed with your electrical Diagnostics and keeping your wife happy skills. I am surprised you didn't find a broken wire! Thanks for the video
You the man I plug my multimeter into the circuit and unplug untill I find the problem
add proximity key and now even more fun!
Great vid
Guys like you are few and far between, and a real asset to the community.
All these modules in these new cars. I hooked up my ThinkTool Pros to my 2000 Dodge 2500 Cummings today to check the system to prep for a trip. Three modules, no DEF, no Cat Converter, manual trans, no power windows or door locks, no nothing including no problems. I will keep this truck another 20 years.
I've used those types of fixes myself in the past. Like when you're on a long road trip and just need to get home. Had the hydro-boost go out on my Dodge Ram 2500 one trip. Once I realized what the problem was I put a diaper on the hydro boost weep hole (old T-shirt and tie down) to keep fluid from getting all over the place and bought a few quarts of power steering fluid. My wife and I finished the last two days of our road trip by staying off the brakes as much as possible and topping up the fluid as needed. Rebuilt the hydro-boost when I got home.
Thanks Eric for another great diagnostic video. Appreciate this one and all of them
Eric O’…You do all the Hard Work finding the Fault, so someone else can do the easy part! Great Video, as always!
Is the owners manual in glove box? Make a note under fuses or In back, note section.
Great job tracking it down.
I really enjoy your videos. Honest mechanic. I like the way you trees down the problem and fix it and do it right. You're an awesome guy.👊
Each video that you sharing is like a class because you show us a lot of information and technics. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge with us.
Don't ALWAYS comment. But i ALWAYS watch your videos...
A big fan here..
Thank you Mr O
And here you are, still making things look easy, you are one heck of a technician thanks for the video.
Watching your videos has not only improved my DIY car repair ability but also my general household repair ability. Last night I flipped the switch for the garbage disposer and -- nothing. After checking whether it was jammed and finding it wasn't, I thought, "now how would Eric O. or Ivan approach this?" (Ivan did actually do a garbage disposer repair video once!) It's just like any other electrical problem. Sure enough, using what I've learned from your videos it took only a few quick tests to learn the switch had gone kaput. Replaced the switch and now it works fine (Ivan probably would have repaired the switch!).
I love, Love, *LOVE* the diagnostic processes you go through, and the fact that you're so very good at explaining them to us. It just a very satisfying feeling to know *WHY* something is broken, instead of simply seeing you throw a parts-cannon at it and magically fixing the problem somehow. No, you didn't get to fix this particular problem, but we know generally where it exists, and why the battery was going dead -- which is plenty enough for me. Thanks!
Yep, I agree. Eric's diagnostic skills are very impressive. Wish I had the same capacity.....
And the beat goes on ! Good diagnosis. Eric
Love the Cooper Tires sign sitting on the floor of the shop as a native of Findlay Ohio where their Headquarters and a tire plant reside. And of course another great video!
A logical working man, far too rare of a breed. Oh and you have a great family, congrats on that!
I love with CC on your videos you come across as saying
Welcome to the Self Made Auto Channel!
It’s just funny
I typically setup a meter for dc amps and and use my probes to touch across the fuses. The reading is never correct because you are splitting the amps, but it will give you an idea of what is drawing power. You'll need a good meter with a low resistor for reading amps. Once I find the suspect fuse i can pull the fuse and go across the fuse terminal (make sure your leads are also fused to the same or lower value). This works 90% of the time.
As always, great video. Your diagnostic skills are 2nd to none!
I think I would have also left a sticky note in the fuse box that said something like "power liftgate bad, drains battery overnight". Of course someone can throw it away without reading it, but if they did take a moment to read it they would have a good idea why the dummy fuse was there.
Eric, Mrs. O, you give me hope for the U.S.
Used car guy does not!
Lol love the using of infrared and saying Mrs.O is hot! I pointed my infrared tool at my wife, she asked what I was doing, I said "infrared shows your hot"! Lol good sense of humor. Thanks Eric for what you do! Godbless you and your family.
Hello from Australia :) using infrared and saying Mrs.O is hot! and there goes that meter - your going to have to borrow one from NASA to be able to read Mrs.O level of Hot !!!
My infrared reader must be broken...I pointed it at my wife 3 times and.....NOTHING
@@jimpantherdrivervickers5439 we must have the same model infrared
@@jimpantherdrivervickers5439 lol. I thought mine was broken. But then I pointed it at my neighbors wife and it pegged the meter. 😀
Calm down, Sparky.
Everything with a park, would have been sus to me but I enjoyed your logical explanation 👍👍 Thanks for sharing
You did all you could Dr. O' ! I'd buy a car off ya!
I wish I could find a reliable and efficient mechanic like you around me. However a six hr round trip might be worth it if i really need to.
Those TIPMs always go bad....except when they don't!
There's a special place in Hell for used car guys!
Nice job, Eric. Glad you brought us along. This is a great addition to my morning coffee.
You da Man Mr. O!!!
I have always hated chasing current drains. I’m like a hound when it comes to finding the culprit.
Leave nothing to chance.
Mrs O is a hottie! You a very lucky man!
I love watching your playfulness you have together in your videos.
You’re put in strange positions at times!!! Thanks!!
Mrs O is the bomb, she knows her stuff.
Great diagnosis
This was really cool seeing a new method to diagnose a parasitic draw.
You watch one video and you think, "Wow, Eric got lucky." But you watch a bunch of his videos, and you realize, no, it's not luck. It's skill.
REAL technician. And the fact of the matter is he lives in a little town with a population of less than 1,000, so he's not making hardly any money outside of these drop-offs from other garages and the local population. just out there doing his thing and living his life - and he just so happened to have the idea to share his skills with us on CZcams and try and teach others these methods.