Just Because It's New... Doesn't Mean It's Good...
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- čas přidán 31. 05. 2024
- In this video we see the classic example of crappy aftermarket new parts. This customer installed a few new EVAP parts on his Ford Ranger only to find out they are junk. Oh well 🤷🏽♂️
-Enjoy!
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How many people when he said be quiet actually went quiet.
Guilty as charged....
Dorman has saved us all, temporarily...
When I was first learning to wrench in the mid-60's, the circuits and systems we needed to fix were relatively simple compared to today's. What I learn from these videos is how to use modern techniques to diagnose and repair modern vehicles. I appreciate the extent of Eric's understanding of the principles.
I'm 60 year old apprentice .. learning loads, thank you.
“What’s this do”? Ahhhhoooga! 😁 Glad I’m not the only one who will just push random buttons and flip random switches just to “see what happens”😂👍🏻.
It’s amazing with all the technology and bullshit how unbelievably important the simple but irreplaceable test light is!
Dorman's marketing slogan: Yes, it's new but that doesn't mean it's good!
Dorman products. Stranding motorists and frustrating technicians since 1918!
South end has been very vocal in past about dorman lack of quality
DORMAN Products - We make new-looking stuff !!
Dorman. Might work.
Dorman should be called Dormant
Thanks for coming in today Fella 👌🍻
Reminds me back in the 80s I worked in a garage next to a parts store also owned by the same man. I diagnosed a Chrysler with a bad voltage regulator and picked one up from the parts counter. It was bad, I took it back and got another. It was bad.
Now they were starting to doubt me so I told the counterman You have a regulator tester, check it. Of the 5 regulators they had in stock only one was good. I installed that one and the car was fixed.
I have seen that on allegedly remanufactured starters for International DT466 . And those are not little or lite weight.
Reminds me of the time that I worked at an RV dealership and went to hook up the shop truck to a 5th wheel. I locked the pin, pulled out and the 5th wheel pin pulled out of the hitch.
When I told the shop manager about it, it was immediately my fault and all the mechanics in hearing distance laughed.
I told them that it was the pin coming loose and it needed to be repaired.
Yeah, yeah...until another mechanic hooked up a different 5th wheel with the same truck. It pulled out causing body damage to the truck bed and 5th wheel trailer.
They finally fixed it. I'm just glad it didn't happen on the road.
But they still looked at me like it was my fault to begin with. I told them that there was a problem, what they decided to do about it was on them.
@@freetolook3727 W2
Oof… the parts cannon operator is a hard position to man…
Gotta love doorman parts
".... don't talk back". 😂
I just had a Ranger in today - guy said it was making a noise out back. Well, that was because the rear shock perch rotted right off, and the shock was slamming the underside of the bed! Right near where I welded a plate to mount the spring perch too a couple years ago. "Just one more year", he says. :D
When I was a tech at the Local Ford dealer I had a crown vic that had a bad wiper motor. Used my test light in place of the motor, operated the multi function switch, test light went on, Bright & Brighter! Bad wiper motor. Next day installed the "New" one from the parts desk, put the cowl panel back on and was pulling the car around and upon testing it, they did not come on!! I was so confident in my diag. Pulled it back in, test light again, found the NEW wiper motor was bad right out of the Box!! NEW = NEVER EVER WORKED YET! Tough lesson to learn, but truth!
Some of the best content on CZcams. Invaluable to watch over the shoulder of a professional. Thanks Eric!!
As an old car guy, I really enjoy your videos.
Pamela Anderson's truck was an experimental model made with a natural type air bag system.🤪
Years ago an old beer drinking buddy who was a dealer mechanic and I had a conversation. He asked what oil filters I used. I said Fram which was highly rated at time. He said yes highly rated but I can keep pollution out of your lungs with a plastic bag. It stuck and I’ve been an OEM guy ever since. Upfront cost may be higher but cheaper in the long run. Aftermarket seems cheaper but the headaches outweigh the cost. They spend millions on design and then we cheep out on replacements.
Man that’s ridiculous, both of these parts would take less than a minute to check full functionality at the factory. I’ve built a lot of electronics and I would never ship any product that I hadn’t seen tested. A quick test with get rid of 95%+ of defects.
My 1952 Ford 239 Flathead Thank God For This None Of That Crap
As you pulled it in Eric, all I could think was: "Ahhhh, the good ol' Ford P/S whine!" Haha, cheers brother!
@Sizzlin' Samm Yup, I said the same thing myself. To @Marty's 4x4: Ford used a P/S pump from around 1980 until about 2005 (I could be wrong about the years) that was notorious for sounding like they were low on fluid, even when they weren't. Many replacement pumps whined when new. The newer style is very quiet.
That whine…I think H Ford designed that into ever vehicle
Your patience and good humouredness with these things never cease to amaze me. I was cussing earlier because I had to plug an HDMI lead in by feel even without it and its surroundings being covered in Fluid Film, engine oil and general road grime.
When the video starts with Eric hand cranking down the window you know it's going to be a good one.
many times I've heard "it's brand new, it can't be bad"
now that's top level diag there..
Everyone in NY State should be on "the film" Eric!😎🇨🇦✔
Amazing, a Truck almost 25 years old, 1/4 million miles in NYS salty weather, How clean the underside. Great Video. Thanks Mr. O
who else though the oil bottle upside down next to the caution sign looked like an Easter island escapee?
New parts are the Schrodinger's cat of the automotive world. Will they work, won't they work? Who knows till you plug it in and observe it.
Ah, Sheldon would be proud!
He said let's get it in right after he mentioned Pam Anderson.
I am more impressed with your knowledge and ability to use and understand complex (by my standards) diagnostic tools.
Not only do you SHOW what is needed but you give your THINKING. Us viewers then develop similar thought processes... Thx✔️✔️✔️
21:37 That was really fun, and it seems that you genuinely have enjoyed it. Kudos to the child inside us.
My 95 Chevy S10 has 596K miles & still going (rebuilt@263K)
Built right here in St. Paul Minnesota my guy! The plant however this came from is long gone. Henry Ford himself assisted the planning and liked the location because it was right on the Mississippi river. They mined sand from under this location and made their own glass there and had a hydro power plant as well. beautiful plant in its heyday
I had an 88 Ranger stx build at the twin cities plant....it was the best truck I ever had....wish I would have kept it.
Lived 2 blocks away
I had a 01 model. Kinda miss it.
I miss the old ranger plant. That area just doesn’t seem the same these days.
I miss that guy
The upside down oil filler container on the wall behind Mr. O (17:22) looks like an Easter Island Moai monolith. Freaky.
My grandpa had one of thos ah-ooga horns in his car. I loved those little Rangers. I had two, a 90 and a 98. That is a very familiar sounding truck. I really miss them. Glad to see this one lived to fight another day.
As an owner of 2 Ranger's, I thank you for posting the vid.
Mr Eric, Now I know why you’re so good at wiring issues… “The rust belt!”
A F***ING FORD RANGER!! Shop looks really nice with the gray and black paint!
Glad I'm not the only one working on old crap today 😅 I had a 93 honda and a 97 mazda today what a day
I notice they are Asian
The lanolin helps keep your hands supple and soft. The rust helps with exfoliation. Your vehicles are your beauty treatment.
Thanks for more enjoyable time spent with you in the garage. Your videos make it seem like we are standing right there next to you. All that is missing is a few ice-cold beverages.
Bought “new” struts for my car, 2 days later, threw in the old struts because the new kyb strut bearing broke on the driver side, and the passenger side was seizing up already, best $300 I ever threw in the garbage
Installation error obviously..lol🤪
That’s crazy put a rough country lift kit on didn’t measure them cause they should be same length. Right wrong one was 1/2 shorter company sent me new one gotta take it apart again.. China
Yeah, installation error, more like “made in China”. So far 40k later on good “used” oem struts and no more issues.
KYB = Keep Your Bilsteins
@@sheerwillsurvival2064 Don't blame China. They can build good quality. The companies don't want to pay. How many filler necks they selling a year? Not a lot. How many are kind of sort of good enough? Most, most likely. So, somebody gets the runt of the litter concerning parts. F'em is the attitude. The companies could QA the parts but that costs money. China doesn't sell retail. They are selling wholesale. Their buyers are the Dormans of the world. Blame them.
You know I was just saying the same thing today, "just because it's new doesn't mean it's good".. strange how you posted your title that😂
Even Napa has been infected by the junk parts. May have to just go to the junkyard.
It always seems like the fewer options those rangers had the longer they lived. Nice work, Mr. O!
que paso Chapo?
Absolutely. I own a 95 Ranger with a 2.3 and 5 speed. It has good heat and air, and no other bells or whistles. Best truck Ford ever built.
Complexity kills quality everytime. Ford's complexity problems is crushing. F-Series trucks have literally hundreds of buildable combinations...just the build...ignore the paint color. The Transit has 100's of buildable combinations...take rates
Years ago I replaced the power steering gearbox on a GMC 3500. The parts store said it might take two or three boxes to get a good one. 😳 Only took two! Lucky?
I did 4 until i got a decent one on a ram, crazy what they'll let out the door...
Lol
I've gotten too bad alternators in a row before parts are garbage nowadays
I worked for a quality rebuilder. Very few problems. But there's a lot of junk out there.
Napa told me the same thing when I ordered a reman ps box for an old Ford pickup. They said 1/2 the time the remans have more play than the cores.
I hate EVAP. There are so many failure points, valves, caps, canisters, steel lines, connections, wires, etc and so on. Here in the PRNY, this can drive you crazy as your car gets old and rusts and plastic gets brittle and you can’t pass inspection if the Money Light is on. A lot of effort for a small return. Strong letter to follow!
A plethora of knowledge with comic overtones, great job !
21:40 that was worth the price of admission.
I had at least 6 Rangers, Loved them all.
It's the only small truck I'll ever buy. I drive a 98 extra cab everyday had it since 2007 my uncle bought it new.
NEW-- Never-Ever-Works! Eric knows how to make that old Ranger smile!
Baywatch, Baby! lol All guys our age know Palmala Anderson
My son had an older Accord in his younger days. The alternator gave out so he went to Checker and got one that was lifetime warranted! Changing the fine thing in that model/year was a beast, but he got it in. It lasted a month, and he took it back. The second one lasted a month. So did the third. Go back, Jack, do it again.
After a 20+ yrs of going to the nearest store and getting the first lifetime warranty part, I finally gave up. Got tired of taking the part back for a refund because it was packaged incorrectly, didn't fit right, didn't work out the box, etc.
Lifetime warranties will give you another substandard part, but it don't turn the wrench for you. Anyway, that's the conversation I had with myself. I only buy OEM these days. If a vehicle is too old for OEM parts, I search for who the oem supplier is and buy that. Far less aggravating
Aah yes, the famous ford power steering whine
I was wondering if was the only one that drifted off to memories past.
Definitely not. I can never unhear the sound. Owned one for 2 years. Grew up riding around in them. Its stuck in my mind. That and the ignition dinger
Aftermarket parts are junk all over these days! Just today I put a Duralast brake booster in a Honda and found it had an internal leak on test drive. Advisor sold Duralast against my advice because it was cheaper and quicker and now the job will take longer and cost the shop. Quality parts are certainly expensive but they work better and last longer.
It's a missed opportunity for the aftermarket not to offer a "top shelf" line of parts that come with a 1 year 12k miles parts and labor warranty. No questions asked if it fails it's covered. Prorate the warranty as time goes on. It would be worth paying extra for a good warranty
@@firstlast--- The Duralast one does have a warranty. I could keep putting the same Chinese crap in it until I find one that works, probably retire off of it, but even if it works at first, will it last? Doubt it. I don’t think Duralast makes good rubber.
@@Jangus Built too fast duralast 😂
Proof positive that undercoating your car with Fluid Film will keep the rust goblins at bay. It's also a small irony that the dude has to get all of these evap issues fixed...come next year his Ranger will be 25 years old and annual emissions testing will no longer be required
Which is fine only if you know 100% what the codes mean and what potential issues you could have. I might not fix it, but I would want to know the ramifications of not fixing it.
My state is 35 years.
@@dlewis9760 There are none only green people and our government wanted to prevent harmful emissions or so they say out of atmosphere, back in old days gas tanks were gravity feed like your lawn mower.
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Reminds me of the opening scene in Super Troopers - "Canada huh... almost made it."
@@jimlovesgina my state is before 77
Had a shop replace the radiator and cap on my wife's car. Noticed the cap seemed unusually tight but the shop said it was the right one. Well, a while later I noticed the radiator was looking definitely bulged out. Shop found out the cap was not relieving pressure. Fortunately, they stepped up and replaced the whole shebang with a cap that worked for no cost to us. Guess that anymore you always have to check that the new parts are actually working the way they should.
Long, long, long time ago I did a tuneup on my girlfriend's 72 Olds Cutlass. New Accel plugs, cap, rotor, condensor and plug wires. Cranked and cranked but no start and she started giving me a dirty look. So began putting back on old parts and it finally started when the used condensor went back in. Talk about embarrassing!
Ahh a bedtime story from SMA, yet more aftermarket 💩, great diag as always 😁 looking forward to the next one keep the great work up
Bedtime story? Early morning coffee time story for me lol
@@B0xlife1 I watched it last night uk time
Do you ever tell your customers - " Check out the video on your repair! " Another great video, proving the good / bad / new parts theory, was the filler neck Dorman perhaps?
If the part was dorman there's your problem lady.
WOW. I Had a 94 splash, 3.0 liter, good little truck. Had 198000 before the tree crushed it and never burned any oil
CYA...
A SFW version is:
Cover
Your
Aft-end
😎
I swear you use a teleprompter lol. You are the man with the gift of gab. Lovin' all of it bro.
Eric have you ever thought of doing night classes for other so called techs because in my opinion you have forgotten more about fixing cars than they will ever know. You are in a league of your own. Master tech.
“There are 3 kinds of parts; good parts, bad parts and new parts. And just because they’re new, doesn’t mean its good” Genius
i totally enjoy these videos Eric...you are truly a great teacher in your repairs and a very knowledgeable technician....keep up the awesomeness
You are the Best car mechanic I am impressed with Your troubleshooting very superior and meticulous maintenance. Thank you for shearing your skill.
WoW! Congratulations on nearing 700,000!
I have a friend who won a Ranger in a golf tournament in the 90s. He came up with a few thousand to upgrade from the stripped-down model they were giving away. It broke down on several fishing trips to Utah. He ended up missing the 92 Toyota truck he sold after the big win. Finally traded it in and bought another Toyota.
Oh man I had a 98 ranger stick, bought it brand new after college. Sold it after 12 years, still going strong, one of best trucks I’ve ever had in terms of reliability and cost to own.
You could also put another o-ring on the gas cap to make a tighter seal. They probably don't even make oem parts for them anymore.
ahh the 'chinesium plague'. gotta love it.
I was cryin when he found the extra horn buttons! Hilarious!
I certainly learned that a few times! Had a Buick towed in with everything electrical replaced. No start. Shiny module all clean and bright and worthless.
Thanks!
The life of a mechanic.. nothing like the 327 283 289 days.
So far so good for my 06 caravan.
Being from south Florida I know all about the Splash edition Ford Ranger , usually Yellow or Red in color😆 aahh the good ol' days. You brought back memories.
I miss my 98 ranger..good little pickup...died while fighting a telephone pole..r.i.p..ol gal
Aftermarket parts have burned me too many times. I now buy OEM parts whenever I have the option. But a lot of parts are becoming discontinued from the age of the vehicle.
That's the problem I have. Can't get anything from Ford for a nearly 30 year old car.
Throttle bodies for 2.2 L ecotec. Reman is all I can get now. Huge range in price. Is there a difference in quality with price or is it just hit or miss?
Junkyard is underrated. And a great place to pick up spare bolts, bulbs, trim, etc. Good practice too. Grab 2 or 3 used parts for half the price of one new one, one is bound to work.
A Honda enthusiast who ran a Honda FAQ site had pictures from his own experience and that of a couple of members. They were all of broken ball joints - aftermarket ones that lasted just a few months. Seeing that I swore off aftermarket parts for almost everything.
@@andrewcz8871 Thats nice until you cant even find parts cars at junkyards
Dam good looking underside for a NY rig
Having worked at a parts store and as a mechanic I have seen a lot of defective aftermarket parts.
I've seen lots of defective OEM parts as well.
Biggest shocker for me in this whole video was that NAPA sells a part that’s “made in the USA’…🤣🤣
when I'm shopping for aftermarket parts I consider things.
• customer reviews
• lifetime warranty
• OE spec or better
• counterfeit inspection
I own a 97 Ranger and the evap system works like the 98 but the charcoal canister and vent valve are under the hood and i find that Ford was proud of that travesty. With the Dpfe sensor and preformed muilti size hoses the parts are hard to find. But i have 357 thousand on it and i cant cross any more fingers.
The problem with your show is you give me hope i can make it to 400 k.😊
The two camera positions opening shot, with the epic transition from outside to inside the car *Chef's Kiss*
Pro Tip: Don't ever purchase aftermarket fuel caps for any Ford, Lincoln or Mercury. Their evap systems are very sensitive. Aftermarket caps are garbage.
Sweet.... I like the old truck videos... I really like the new black and gray color scheme on the shop, my guy....
@21:36 It is the kid within us all that have the tendency to just push every button. I was so afraid for Eric when he press that serious looking button for fear he might have launched a rocket or something!
For about 10 years now, my motto with any item (vehicle, appliances, computers, etc): “Newer is not always better.”
Wow you're so cool
i would rather have old made in usa than new made in china junk
Tools
@@ranger178 old is the keyword. The new made in the USA is also junk...
EXCELLENT video. Perfect example of the trap so many of us fall in to. SEE a problem, FIX the problem, BUT it's NOT the WHOLE problem...there is more. And you didn't stop until you checked the system to ensure ALL was fixed. We all have to discipline ourselves to not stop short of that overall check thing. Thanks for this video!
my guy, thats an OK looking truck for its age
Lol me either and the last one was a splash that couldnt seem to stay on the road.and yes pamula Anderson did run a ford splash on bay watch .ah what memories .
I definitely need one of those horn buttons, just to bug my wife! 🙃 Great video as always Mr. O!
I wish I could buy Denso everything because their parts always seem to be very good and priced much better than OEM.
“ just because it’s new does not mean it’s good” I tell my customers at all the time. I also tell them, “this is why we have warranties”
100 points (going the extra mile worked again) nice deductions WATSON
Ha ! Replaced a seized ac compressor on my father in laws s10 in November and the case o ring leaked by March with a 90 day warranty...
Yup got that right! $129 a/c system compressor dryer orings and oil lasted 2 year and the clutch flew apart, new clutch 6 months old already rattling. sometimes you win, a lot of times you'll lose though..
We put in a “new” inexpensive compressor assembly for a inexpensive customer. Well just out of warranty it gets towed in. Compressor clutch self districted and tossed the belt.
Oh, I never go cheap on ac compressors. Go OEM or worst case used. When that cheap aftermarket compressor goes, it contaminates the entire system. Black Death
I own a 1997 Ranger. It's been a good old truck. Not the mess these new ones are today. And I have never bought a china piece of crap that I didn't have to work on or replace yet. All my best.
I understand this system much better now, Thanks!
Sounds like a 90’s ford power steering pump.!!😂
I was thinking "of course it has the old Ford "pump and res" power steering pump sound!
Ahh that makes me nostalgic. I have a 97 Ford Ranger Splash with a manual just sort of hanging out at my parents house out in the desert. Seeing that interior brought me back.
It also had never ending EVAP leaks and power steering pump whine too.
I need to drive around the desert with a car trailer and buy some cars off people 😆 a spare or yard truck in the desert is a worthwhile fix up north!