Why it's hard to care about climate change
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- čas přidán 12. 05. 2024
- Bringing up climate change is one tried and true way to ruin a dinner party - and leave people feeling helpless and apathetic. But it doesn't have to be that way, if we change how we communicate. So let's talk, about how we talk, about climate change.
Reporter: Amanda Coulson-Drasner
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We're destroying our environment at an alarming rate. But it doesn't need to be this way. Our channel explores the shift towards an eco-friendly world - and challenges our ideas about what dealing with climate change means. We look at the big and the small: What we can do and how the system needs to change. Every Friday we'll take a truly global look at how to get us out of this mess.
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00:00 Intro
01:26 How bad is it?
02:45 Climate science is complicated
05:12 Balance as bias
08:22 How we feel
10:26 Solutions
How does talking about climate change make you feel?
I feel sad about it. But thank to covid 19, earth is cooler a little bit.
It makes me feel doom, but you have to talk about negative things to reverse them.
It's fun!! New bikelanes? New vegan food options? A new public transport project? Freeway removals? A new apartment building instead of single family home? Sustainable energy factories being built? Climate crisis coverage can be super sexy and interesting
Typically I’m good to dig down into the details and have a discussion on what concrete actions we need to take. Every now and then I get overwhelmed. This is when I unplug from the news, take a hike, and play video games for a day or two.
Then I’m usually good to go again!
bored
Someone said "We don't need a handful of people doing zero waste perfectly. We need millions of people doing it imperfectly."
This can change a lot.
it would be a start, but waste is something so unnatural, it will always accumulate and destroy the society that ends up collecting it.
@@richardcowley4087 What is hilarious in this? Reducing pollution requires every single person to make some efforts to change their own lifestyle. Stop purchasing all kind of stuff you don't truly need, reuse it, sell it, repair it, purchase only what has the best quality and that isn't sold in 4 layers of cardboard and plastic.
@@richardcowley4087 When did I say that mankind control nature? The fact that you can't read is so amusing 🙃
Overconsumption is currently destroying everything. Rivers and lakes, even in developped countries, are full of plastic trash. Many types of natural resources are becoming scarce. Air pollution is destroying the life of millions of citizens in cities, even in developped countries. Do you want more examples? I can find tons of them. All of this is because people like you are too lazy to make some efforts. All that is required is that you purchase the right things only when truly needed. You don't need a phd to understand overconsumption can't go on forever 🤦♂️
@@PG-3462 Like your phone or PC? Each time you come on to CZcams to watch a Climate Change video you are contributing to the change of the environment cause everything requires power and most power in the world is from consuming coal.
@@CakeProDuckShins 1) This is why I chose the right phone which is of very good quality and manufactured in the country next to mine (the USA)
2) Electricity where I live (Québec, Canada) is produced at 100% with hydropower. Our electricity is thus very cheap and many companies, including Google, installed some of their servers here.
Most of the pollution comes from transportation, followed by industrial production. The best way to reduce pollution thus starts by changing our habits related to transportation and overconsumption.
Do you have another question?
While I'm glad the discussion of climate change continues to evolve, this video missed a large talking point, maybe the biggest from my perspective. That being the low class workers who work in industries that have been labeled bad for the environment. My background and family's background is from farming, factory work, and potentially other environmentally unfriendly industries. So, when it comes up to a 75 year old 4th generation farmer is being told that what you and your family has been doing for literally generations is destroying the planet, they take offense to that because they think they're feeding people and providing for their family. The same goes for a factory worker, an oil driller, and many other industries with the label. I'm not denying this, but from my perspective this is where the true disconnect is. This can be blamed on corporate greed or government exploitation, but that is irrelevant if the message can't be communicated without this group of people feeling attacked for just surviving. Also, many in this group will fight hard if they're livelihood is threatened. Anyway, this is my perspective. I have no idea for solutions. I just think this also needs to be apart of the discussion. Thank you for reading all of this, and have a great day!
Very valid point!
One solution Earthing Ed offers to this is to shift our factory farming subsidization to farmers who wish to make the switch from factory farmed animals to environmentally friendly alternatives. Depending on the land, that could look like re-wilding the land or growing crops for humans to consume, instead of for animal consumption. To do this, we would re-direct the money already provided to farmers for factory farming to subsidizing farmers to be stewards of the land. There’s examples of this in Costa Rica that have been successful. This way, farmers can be part of the solution and are incentivized to make the switch.
Exactly. Who knew that people don't like being talked at like fools? Or that maybe they've got material challenges in the here and now that aren't going to be fixed by someone saying the world is ending lol.
@@frompizzaaddicttovegan 1)Regenerative and organic farming without machines and slaves is not profitable. 2)Rich people care only about profit. 3)If you have free money, you can waste on it.)) But most ppl don't have them.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: as soon as companies figure out how to make money off climate change you won’t be able to stop them from reporting about it!
That being said, there’s a lot of really good CZcams channels out there for climate change. Here’s my favorites that I’d recommend:
1) DW planet A
2) Climate Town
3) Not Just Bikes
4) Climate Adam
5) Shelbizlee
6) Just Have a Think
7) Our Changing Climate
8) Ankur Shah
9) my channel (Save Money Save the Planet)
I’d also recommend the podcast Planet Money from NPR. While they’re not about climate change specifically, they clearly accept that climate change is real and happening and do all of their reporting from that perspective. So the attitude is kind of baked into all of their reporting.
Good luck out there people.
+1 . but I'd also recommend nature bats last by guy mcpherson - if you have the stomach for it . . .
@@jonas7510 never heard of them. I’ll have to check them out this weekend when I have time.
The issue is that making a mess is more profitable than cleaning it
Also the only solution to save this planet is dismantle capitalism
You should also watch nova pbs two documentaries on yt which is can we cool the planet and arctic sinkholes
I've made the experience that if you envision the positive alternatives, you can make people less scared and embrace this alternative. Only talking about everybody dying soon, won't create momentum enough. But if you depict a friendlier, more pleasant and more livable future and show the steps towards it, it may just inspire people to go there.
Fossil fuels have $trillions and own as many senators as they need so the war is lost and optimism won't change a thing.
Even though it's a lie to tell eight billion there is a liveable future...
@@russtaylor2122 the time has come to stop coddling the human species and be brutally honest about the future, of which there is none.
The alternative is to cut half our global consumption to save the planet. Most of us don't wanna do it.
Me as Southeast Asian always skeptical about tackling climate change, especially since our economy hasn't prospered enough to be able to sustain fully green energy. I think we should let Europe and NA transition to green energy first while we keep using fossil energy and industrialize our economy. When we're economically strong enough, that's when we can talk about using green energy
We see the problem a little in cities, but I encourage people who don't believe or don't care to visit national parks and to remember that the entire planet should be lush with that same level of biodiversity. I'm from a farm town in the American Midwest. My father was a denier for years until recently I explained to him all of the species that have either vanished or dwindled in numbers due to mono culture agriculture. I then encouraged him to examine a hand full of topsoil from the soy field behind our house, then to examine the soil in a national park only a few hours away. When he saw the difference in coloration and texture, I was able to explain to him the concept of soil restoration, and how agriculture is inhibiting this natural process in entire U.S. states. Concrete examples close to home are the most effective ways of grabbing attention.
I like your idea of how to get someone to see what is going on. Of course, not everyone is going to want to do this and many won't care, but if you can get at least one person to understand then that is not a bad thing.
I agree with you my dear. The problem is that climete chenge is a very compex topic to splain to the average people and we don't have easy,measurable and close examples like you did with your father. Like, you can explain to people that the world is getting hotter and some people said " So why Texas got colder ??" even if Texas getting colder is a direct consequence of climate change/global warminh
When I talk about climate change in my environment, people look me weird in the eye. I was worried about the climate, but no one wanted to do anything about it. I made me furious. I’ve let it go now. I am focussing less and less on climate change, just becaise of society and also politicians who never care.
It's because everything you do in this world contributes to climate change whether you think about it or not. Commenting on youtube requires power to your device and to the servers of both CZcams and your service provider. So in essence your comment has burned some coal in someway or another and you wouldn't even have food on your table if a gas powered diesel truck didn't deliver it to your city.
Read an article yesterday.
"Do you take the car into Kreuzberg every day?"
"Yes. Do you want to deport me into a concentration camp now, or what?".
This seems to be a normal conversation between middle-aged Germans.
What you say is true, i had the same problem, I am a Rapper, and when i try to talk about the climate change in my Twitter, no one care, So i did the same like you. But now i see, maybe i should put the focus on the climate change in my music, cuz by speaking it nothing happens, the people don't care, they will care only when is too late.
I like how my hometown is focusing on specific local issues. Cleaning up the lake of factory dumping so the algae blooms recede and people can enjoy the lake again. Reindigenizing plants so we can build ecosystems back.
We really need better knowledge mobilizers and intersectional, interdisciplinary ways to engage. Aka, people to make the issues widely known and connecting the environmental crisis to other social issues. Btw, I picked up the term environmental crisis from watching Sci Show here on You Tube, so knowledge mobilization at work.
This is the kind of stuff I always like to bring up when people talk about not caring about voting for president.
Your vote has so much more weight for your local decisions and can actually help get ALOT done!
I bet everybody in your hometown drives an SUV, has a massive home full of electronic stuff, goes on vacation, eats burgers, 'works' on computers, flies a lot, wears synthetics, runs A/c or heating... Need i go on? Cleaning the lake so you can launch your speedboat ain't enough, my friend.
@@russtaylor2122 way to make a ton of assumptions there, dude. Even if all those were true, it would still be better for everyone to live unsustainably AND work to improve the environment around them than for everyone to live unsustainably and do nothing. Not to mention the fact that people engaged in environmental cleanup efforts are highly unlikely to be as out of touch as your describe just by virtue of being engaged in them
@@editor4201 Just playing Devil's advocate! ; ) Illustrating that straightening the deckchairs won't stop the Titanic from sinking!
There's a disconnect between all cultures being so strong on family and children on the one hand, and the world's lack of concern for the future of our grandchildren on the other. This is incomprehensible to me
The big issue with climate change is that it is gradual not sudden. I feel like we are experiencing the intensity of climate change building up in the last decade and it is going to continue to worsen in the next few decades.
I think one way to change it is actually done very well here on this channel: increase the positive reporting. Climate news are often a bit apocalyptic. But increasing reporting about working alternatives, how/where/why/when they work etc is always nice.
Personally I don't really watch or read news about the current state of it. I know it's shit enough that action needs to happen. But I binge watch stuff about possible solutions.
I feel like a problem that’s also not talked about that much is that young people (teenagers, kids, young adults) who grew up hearing about climate change are just tired of hearing of it. At least in my experience (I’m currently 17) I’ve grown up hearing about climate change and how in a couple of decades when I’m older the planet is going to be very damaged and how my future kids are going to have a very different and worse life than me. Even in school in classes like geography we were constantly hearing about it and had to do projects with a lot of research about it, and on top of that we were also getting a grade for learning about how our planet is going to die. So much negativity is mentally exhausting for anyone let alone children so I feel like it’s only natural for us to want to forget or ignore these issues as a coping mechanism. In the end projects like fridays for future were often used as an excuse to skip school instead of going because of our genuine concern. I think the way people talk about climate change has got to change a lot and unless we see actual action and solutions taking place instead of hearing empty promises all our lives we most likely won’t feel inclined to help
im 20 and im not at all tired of having heard about it for like 15 years now. in fact its made me more aware of the issue over the years and today im extremely eco friendly. theres certain other topics that i have slowly gotten tired of repeatedly being taught in school, put into my feed, through society, through parents etc and i honestly just ignore them these days. but for some reasons _CG_ is one of the issues that has really stuck with me, and is a topic i accept openly. but when it comes to CG, i am just _me_ . there are 100s of millions of young people out there all with different opinions and thoughts and behaviors.
I watch a lot of videos regarding climate change and technologies to combat it. A favorite metric is how many tonnes of CO2 would be displaced by a technology, except for when tonnes of C is claimed instead. Almost never is the current load of C02 in the atmosphere referenced, requiring one to do their own research as to how impactful the technology may be. As much as I follow climate change I cannot even, at the time I'm writing this, recall the current load in the atmosphere, the pre-industrial load, which is the current benchmark, or how much the average temperature is expected to increase per unit of increase in CO2.
Somehow, these quantities need to be made tangible to the average person. Reminding individuals how much a liter or gallon of gas weighs and that 87% of the weight is carbon and that each pound or kilogram of carbon produces 3.29 pounds or kilograms of CO2 is a start. Since we don't carry the CO2 home and lift it out of the vehicle to dispose of it, it is hard for one to comprehend the impact of burning a fuel.
To answer your question about how I feel, the fact that we are discussing climate change at all makes me optimistic. We have gone too many decades with essentially no mainstream discussion. I am very confident that we will experience significant climate issues due to our hesitance to this point, but am now hopeful that at least some significant effort will be made in order to ward off worst-case scenarios and, possibly, some tipping points.
I doubt it would make a difference. Saying CO2 went from 187 ppm to 465 ppm in 100 years is still noise to a majority of people. I think the sheer scale of the problem drives people to either discount the problem as unlikely or try to discredit the research as a way of personality distancing their thoughts from the horror of the global situation. I have come to the conclusion that human civilization will reach a point of general collapse, with substantial loss of population and technology. Lifespans will dramatically shorten already you can see people becoming more superstitious and distrustful of knowledge and science. I don't believe that there is a possibility of a good end to this. Case in point. Climate summits, involving hundreds of countries, result in no action but empty talk. This situation will not change
@@briandbeaudin9166 I agree completely that the ppm example you used is not beneficial. For me, knowing what the simulations suggest the world average temperature would be absent the 187 ppm would be a start. For those of us that don't mind wrestling with some level of mathematics, what is the sensitivity of average temp per ppm at our current level?
A first step may be to recognize two groups of individuals, those that try to understand and those that only react to personal experience. I don't feel sufficient facts are presented even to aid those that try to understand. Increasing the cadre that then better understand the consequences of our actions will better inform the larger public.
@@richardcowley4087 While knowing the answer would be interesting, the knowledge is not relevant to the current sensitivity of the climate with respect to the concentration. Knowing the full impact of pre-industrial levels of CO2 on the average temperature at the earth's surface is relevant to understanding the first-order sensitivity of of climate vs ppm CO2. That I would like to know. While the sensitivity is a much more complex problem than this, I would at least have an expectation as to the range the sensitivity might be within.
@@richardcowley4087 Your just trying to make a point that you are smarter than others without any effort to educate them. I stand by that the information you find so important is irrelevant to the metric I am trying to establish, which is a first-order estimate of the sensitivity to average temperature change per unit ppm. Knowing the amount the earth is warmed at 187 ppm vs 0 ppm is a starting point, regardless of the implications of life at 0 ppm.
Call me all the names you want, but if you are unwilling to share your knowledge in a manner that helps me improve my knowledge your opinions are immaterial to me.
You don't get that life is immaterial to what I would like to understand. I am only belaboring this point because you seem so fascinated about it. Coming from another direction, the CO2 concentration is somewhat over 100 ppm higher than the pre-industrial level of 280 ppm and about 1.1 degC warmer, for a sensitivity of about 1 C/100 ppm. My original question was to understand that, apparently, the earth without CO2 would only be about 4 degC cooler. H2O is also a "greenhouse gas" and I imagine there are others. We can neglect methane for the moment so you don't need to get excited about life not being possible. Basically, what temperature would the earth be if the atmosphere were completely transparent? Since the water has relatively low albedo the difference in energy density between short wavelength radiation and the longer wavelengths radiated back to space after the short wavelengths are absorbed. Of course, since the earth's low albedo is due to H20, the greenhouse effect of H20 vapor must quickly come into play.
This tangent took us well away from figuring out how to better explain climate warming. At least I better appreciate the sensitivity of temperature to CO2 concentration.
I personally try something.
Like using a pair of clothes for a long time (3yrs)
Won't eat meat, and try to take public transport.
And I just encourage my friends to do the same.
The problem in cold climates such as Canada where I’m from is that it’s really easy to want to stop climate change on a 45C day in the summer, but really hard at -40C. In the summer an extremely hot day is a disaster. In the winter a day above freezing everyone is thrilled about it and outside doing things. Talking about how wonderful the warm weather is. 3/4 of the year an unusually hot day is seen as great. Not sure how you change that.
Did people affected think this was great: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Western_North_America_heat_wave? This is the sort of thing that will likely become more frequent with continued warming.
Maybe the impending droughts, global food shortages, ever increasing living costs, melting of the poles and new viruses will do the job
Actually climate change causes worse winter the same way it causes worsening draught
@@ariyantolim2197 we haven’t really seen that in Europe so perhaps it’s the same for Canada. We had no snow at all this winter just gone and we have surprisingly warm weather for March. We have also had more heatwaves in the past few years with temperatures staying at plus 30 Celsius.
here in my part of germany (up at the baltic sea), people that know their way around plants and trees (gardeners, hobbyists etc) can see the horrible effects of those warm winter days already.
The trees last year started to bloom in the middle of winter, almost 2 month early, and then frost hit again for a week, a friggin desaster. Lots of trees that were already weakened from a super dry year before died, since they werent able to get the energy up for blooming again.
In April of 2018 I read an Guardian interview with Mayer Hillman whose basic message was “We’re Doomed”. The latest IPCC report is just about ready to say the same thing. We should not be afraid of scaring people. People should be terrified.
Yes, control through fear! The silly science papers and school indoctrination isn't giving control to the people who want control fast enough. You will own nothing, and you will be happy! Happy!
Most people in developed countries don't personally feel the impact of climate change, and therefore don't think about how is going to affect us in the long run, and we are so bombarded with consumerism, that instead of thinking about what's happening in the world around us, we're too worried about the next gadget, clothes, car, house, etc that we are going to buy. The push for climate change needs to come from the government; we can't allow large companies to lobby their special interests so that important climate matters get swept under the run or thrown out altogether.
You do know that 75% of lobbyists at COP26 were from fossil fuel companies...?
@@russtaylor2122 no, I was not aware of that, but I'm not very surprised.
Me as Southeast Asian always skeptical about tackling climate change, especially since our economy hasn't prospered enough to be able to sustain fully green energy. I think we should let Europe and NA transition to green energy first while we keep using fossil energy and industrialize our economy. When we're economically strong enough, that's when we can talk about using green energy
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I have been talking about CC over the last 12 years in my community/countries, but nobody cares!!! I did that on IG, Twitter, FB, etc. But it's like preaching in the desert. I'm from Congo, a very poor country that plays a major role in climate change mitigation. Even when I say that there is no effect or interest in my people. My “last dance” is launching a podcast where I ll be talking about climate and nature topics in local languages(French, Swahili, and Lingala).
9:06 I don't think 'discounting' is the real issue here. Ultimately, it comes down to self interest. People, for the most part, care more about, or at least prioritise their self interest, ensure their own survival, before caring about the greater good. When you ask individuals/institutions/countries to de-carbonize, you are not just asking them to simply care about climate change. Because how expensive the alternatives are, you are asking them to make a very significant sacrifice.
Why spend more money on renewables, when you can cut cost with cheap fossil fuels? One individual/institution/country could want to do the right thing, but by doing so their competitiveness diminishes on the international market, because there are plenty others who are not making this sacrifice, so the result is nobody is willing to take the costly initiative. It is a economics 'common goods' problem. If history has shown us one thing, is that going against economic forces will never work. Trying to solve climate change by raising awareness and ask people to do the right thing out of the goodness of their hearts is just wishful thinking. The real question is how to make the people/countries who choose to de-carbonise not be punished by economic forces.
The weather is getting out of the ordinary at my place. Usually at this time the weather is hot and humid until next month. But my place is experiencing frequent downpour even at night that cause floods. The effect of climate change is incremental and slow. It takes years for its full effect to be felt and to most ppl, just like a frog in boiling water, they just accommodate and acclimatize until its too late. No one wans to talk bout things u can seemingly coup with
Based on recent laws that have been passed regarding paper straws, it's very apparent that lawmakers and our government can do what they need to do to reduce pollution but it's just not very profitable. They need to do what is right
@@thecommentator9181 Agreed! It's such a small and frankly unnecessary use of political power because there are much bigger issues that need to be addressed. I'm hopeful that this is just the beginning and that the government gets more strict towards corporate pollution. If asbestos wasn't made illegal we'd still be using it, so the same idea should apply to other products that are detrimental to the human race and planet
@@suphommy yes, these kinds of small actions do more to harm climate change than help as it just looks pedantic. There is a lot government can do, primarily it could require government to only get energy from renewable or nuclear sources. To me that is where climate activists need to start as step 1. Get governments to go carbon neutral. Avoid using government to force people who don't want to change to change. That is where you get into political problems.
@@thecommentator9181 Yes! And we change how people behave by mandates of unelected buearocrats. Better solutions are not invented, created, or developed, they are declared!
I find it difficult in certain ways, because I don’t know what can actually help on a macro level because so much of it is politicized in my country by leaders that have proven themselves untrustworthy over other issues.
I also don’t like handing this issue over to the government because they often go well beyond their own sphere of responsibility and can cause harm if they take a heavy handed approach to this as many seem to when given other responsibilities and power.
I’ve spent time trying to research and seeking out the data and keep finding articles that just express ideas without statistics, and because I am still learning I find it very difficult to know what to think.
One way you can get others involved is to establish a local project. One example could be a community garden. Actions do speak lowder than words.
Even me typing this is sort of not caring. I know a bit about the energy consumption related to using the internet. But I try much to help the climate. I have no car, take train and ride bike, I eat vegan, also I try saving energy.
The thing that depresses me the most about climate change is that even though pretty much everyone accepts that it exists and is caused by human actions, a lot of the MSM editorializing is about how trying to slow CO2 output could slow economic growth by some small amount. Or comments like "what we do doesn't matter when China outputs more than us".
I hate the China argument. But in reality, the people using it aren’t arguing in good faith. So I just drop a quick comment and then move on to look for someone actually interested in a real conversation.
The China argument is a fallacy for two reasons: 1. The average CO2 emissions of a Chinese citizen is way lower than the average emissions of a Western citizen. 2. Much of China's emissions are to produce cheap throwaway consumer goods for Western countries, so they are really appear on the Western emissions account.
It's easy to say, it's senseless and Always say a Evereybody can start on its own and
華文地區好需要這樣的內容！🥺氣候變遷在台灣的關注程度也超低．．．
That's sad.
If people understood they could make their yards, their condos cooler, could actually create compost for farmers, gardeners, inside the house, then imagine a 30 floor tower with just 30 people creating compost that doesn't stink. It's "worm farming" using things like soaked shredded paper, worms that will live easily in one small solid coloured bin with air holes. No meat, poultry, dairy, acidic foods, but the scraps from veggies.
Now take 30 kgs of compost almost every month going into food production. Veggies, nuts, fruits all with higher nutrition in them.
No one is stopping you from doing this!
I absolutely agree about the information gap among scientists, journalists and the mass public. There are quite some green articles online but a lot of them are targeting people who already putting effort. I wish there could be more content visualising the problem instead of talking about numbers, so that more people could be aware of the impacts of their lifestyle.
First of all, gotta say I enjoyed this video. Yes, I have wondered how to talk to people about the big CC. Most don't want to and I often get ignored or mocked. Still, my interest has grown so much that I decided to enroll in a geography environmental studies program at a community college. Anyways, I must say I noticed with a lot of things people seem to become gatekeepers of things. Like let's say a person shows interest in a new hobby like painting and there are those painter that have been doing it for years that will be the gatekeepers of painting. Sort of putting down or ragging out the newcomer. I see it happening in the activist world, too. There are the extreme activists that will tell you you are not doing crap if you are not vegan and use anything plastic while they drive a van that runs on gas. A gatekeeper usually closes the gate on a lot of people and turns a lot of people away. This will and can turn people off from even wanting to help a little bit. I think being more encouraging when people want to learn is a better approach. That could fall into the bracket of the communicating arena. Yes, scientist know big words and the science should not come off as a holier than thou if you don't know this you don't amount to crap sort of thing. See I am bad with words myself. I already have a hard time talking to people about anything. I am actually hoping to get more into the outdoors and lab part of looking into climate change rather than talking to people. But maybe when I get more into it I wiil want to share more knowledge more. I think I will watch your video again, thank you. O and I wanted to add that I think people are very attached to what is comfortable like the use of their gas powered car. They know where they can get gas, their mechanic and have grown up with their gas powered vehicles. It is a comfort to them. Many people are afraid more of loosing there comforts than that those comforts could actually be taken away due to more frequent weather catastrophes. I think I made sense there. lol
I will always be intrigued by the fact that we could change our behavior just a tiny bit and have a great impact. Take the private cars we all own for example.
In Eastern Europe, we mostly own old cars with high level of emissions. I'm not trying to say that I don't, but the great difference is "when do you use it?". I use my car maybe 2 days in the weekend. The Public Transport infrastructure in my city is 90% (or even higher) perfect. You can easily travel from point to point in the city (and even towards the suburbs) without needing a personal car and without figuring out where to park (since we have insufficient parking spots). All these things considered, my personal observation is that at least 70% of the vehicles in my city are 4 seaters with 1 person in it going from home to work and back. This is a small changeable thing, with a great GHG impact, but we still prefer not to and just be inconsiderate...
one of the main issues is that the 'average' person is tied to working and not likely financially stable enough to make the kind of changes that need to be made such as installing solar panels on their home. We are all somewhat victims of the societies that we live in and the need to survive, to afford food and shelter etc. There is also the issue of how much energy and production it will take to make these new forms of energy, solar panels, wind turbines etc... mining the metals for example. People want to help but when it requires more than buying a reusable coffee cup the issue becomes too much of a burden because to truly solve the issue all we would have to do in theory is nothing... keep hospitals and necessary services running whilst our main sources of power are changed over and we can rebuild this 'new' society... but in this transitional period it would disrupt the functioning of the economy, how would people eat? earn money? It would cause a philosophical crisis as well as a societal and structural one, we have not been educated emotionally or intellectually as people enough to pick up these kinds of huge challenges and these times that require empathy more than greed and selflessness over a desire to do what we want such as go on holiday and eat certain food... we could solve all these issues tomorrow if we were willing to make drastic decisions and let go of many things we don't really need but we seem afraid to let go and to face ourselves... there are many issues at hand in facing climate change and not enough physical time for people to solve them, I don't think it would bring out a positive aspect of human nature for us to be faced with sharing food, letting go of the desire for more, having to remain where we are etc. Coronavirus was a huge test and we changed essentially nothing about our societies and people seem less happy and connected since it happened. We did not grow as people we just watched tv for 2 years and then started again. It is quite scary really.
I think one reason can be that some forms of climate action like electric cars or solar panels are not accsessible for the working class, but they need to bear a lot of the costs of changing to a greener economy such as higher gas prices and manufacturing jobs moving overseas
One thing about technology is it is an area where trickle down economics works. The more we can get the upper classes buying these technologies the sooner it will be affordable for the working class.
@@evancombs5159 No, they can't be more cheaper cos resources is running out!
@@user-vt1xy5ts6h but we aren't running out of these resources yet.
Great video. Another useful tool is talking about the solutions in a more relatable context. EV’s decrease emission but they are also are fun and can save money, working from home decreases travel emissions but it also lets you spend more time with your family, solar panels take our reliance off of coal but they can also be a smart personal financial move. Some of the solutions that help the climate can also help individuals in other ways. And those other ways are what people may care about more.
my frustration is that i know this is a problem and i do make lifestyle changes, but when i learn about information, i dont know how to affect those that can male substantial changes: communities, politicians, governments, corporations, laws, etc.
I have been seeing more coverage of climate change on mainstream news channels that my mom leaves on in the background, which is surprising.
As someone currently looking for a job in climate, sometimes I wonder if it's even real, because nothing bad is happening around me and people are just going on with their everyday lives as normal, the predictions for climate change are so far in the future, they're completely abstracted from human timescales. It makes me wonder if I've wasted my life pursuing the wrong career and am just ranting and raving like a madman about something that might not happen.
Well, what I did in my country was to pressure the news media to publish more science related articles. Making several arguments, battled in their chat rooms, gave the links to the source of information and just talking about the issue in all possible ways they gave. That lead to many publications of the climate science and furthermore discussions in our parliament. To pressure more legislation I combined all the gathered science in few pages and send to party leaders (sometimes to one, sometimes to all of them). Keeping the scientific studies in the front and backing it up with the news media are pretty strong ways to make things to happen.
Yet still, the true accomplishments and true actions are hanging in the balance. Currently in this Ukraine war, we could choose to end the era of fossil burning. Instead I hear too much talks how to keep burning fossil fuels even if we abandon Russian sources. Climate efforts should be shouted out in current discussions or they will never be done.
We are in this situation because our leaders have been talking about green transition in 2035 or 2050 or so, but they have done NOTHING to prepare these transforms. If we really want to be carbon neutral by 2035 (ie. in Germany), then we should have a capability to get rid off all Russian fossil fuels in 2 years. But sadly that is not the case and leaders have been wasting their time with Nord Stream 2 and coal plants transition to methane burning fakes (causes almost the same CO2e emissions when leaks are added). And now we can see that the discussions are how to make a pipeline or terminals for LNG, so it can be burned years to come. It takes years or even decades to build these and in the meanwhile we are not building enough renewables, because we have these fake plans. We should make everything running on renewables. STOP ALL FOSSIL BURNING!
I wish they would have covered more on "Doomism" in this video and stories that promote the idea that it's too late to do anything. It's just as damaging as denialism and prevents meaningful action.
0:00 you've had such a big pause before disclosing how much time they have spent on covering the climate change that I stopped caring about the climate change
I happened to be furious very often when I see videos like this. Not because I hate the work you do but because I love it and see how it’s not paid much attention frankly. However, I agree with many here in the comments that say the approach of climate change with negative news may lack the right power to momentum. Adding the good/positive alternatives has so much potential to add to this momentum. I found out the great initiative that uses algae as alternative not just for fuels but for livestock, humans, fashion etc. Additionally, there are many positive and healthy options that climate friendly initiatives can basically make our lives/lifestyles way better.
There is no way out of this. People are coming to realize what’s happening day by day. The problem is that the majority of people may realize it late. And we have no time to lose.
I notice a lot about citizens demanding and asking for solutions from our governments or companies.
But I never see them make a public "request"...Like on the 8 o'clock news simply ask all ppl to like separate their Plasics from their waste.
Instead of trying to make complicated rules and laws that take a lot of time (to much time).
Ppl don't mind if they are asked to do something, they can say yes or no...but a lot of ppl dislike being told what to do.
Let's say My prime minister asked to make 1 day of the week no meat day, like Veggy Friday...no meat for a day.
And from all the ppl of my country, a 1/3 does this...suddenly all veggies have disappeared on Fridays.
And we humans are ppl of habbits, to let's say 50% falls back in their old lifestyle...thats still 1/6 of a country moving greener.
Repeat this process, and show results from the ppl that decided to make this move from a simple request....prob moves a lot more ppl in the right direction then debating a year about a law.
One problem with climate change and action is that it is a super evil problem. The activities that contribute to it also give us in the western world a high quality of life, but the costs are externalised into the future and to poorer countries where the climate in some places is already marginal for human habitation. Unfortunately neo-liberal capitalism is all about minimising costs and maximising profit, of which externalising costs and consequences play a huge role. We can never address climate change when the wealthiest countries are engaged in an economic system which encourages it. The other problem is when it comes down to advocating individual actions, is that making a dent in your carbon footprint involves making sacrifices, but without any tangible benefit. For example, I went car free for a couple of years and cycled the 20 mile round trip to work, used public transport to visit family, and did all local journeys on foot or bicycle. To do this involves a significant increase in physical effort, a significant increase in time, a significant increase in planning, an acceptance there are some things you cannot do, and an acceptance of the increased vulnerability of using a bicycle as your primary mode of transport. The latter came back to hit me hard when I was hit by a car on my way to work and spent 7 weeks in hospital with a severe head injury, only barely surviving.
Yes, it is a super evil problem. Because without fossil fuels and material products, the Earth could support about 1 billion people. Instead, we have 7 billion. Go look up world population history and overlay it with the utilization of fossil fuels.
@@stapleman007 The Earth could support well more than 1 billion if everyone lived simply and within the bounds of sustainability. It is not population that is the problem, it is the unsustainable linear system of extract -> consume -> discard that is the problem.
@@adamlea6339 I totally agree with you.
We can only have a chance at stopping climate change when we abolish capitalism.
We need to change our mindset, there is no sustainable future if it's just based on capitalism. We should not rely only on what the system gives us as it leaves us defenseless if it crashes, and everything currently works based on the demand.
We luckily live in an era of information accessibility, and the more we dig into turning our lives more self sustainable, not only we will save money by not needing most of the services that we usually need to pay for, but we'll also learn to be resilient.
Things like growing our own food using non-industrial practices would ensure better quality on food.. plus gardening helps against boredom and anxiety, something common to see as lockdowns started... We'd also understand what does it take to produce one vegetable and have better conscience on food waste.
We are lured into consumerism without being aware of any consequences it may carry within, however, when we die, we are not taking any of our belongings with us... we can better worry to leave a better world behind us by cultivating our knowledge and share it with others, as it'll give them helpful tools..
Sorry for the big comment, as a civil society we could improve things without needing to wait for the big guys to take actions to their greenwashed plans, the demand of the consumer could play a big key here, obligating businesses to change and be more transparent.
Great summary! I think we also need hopeful ecological visions of the possible futures ahead of us, so we don’t just react to climate issues out of fear, but also out of excitement. More #solarpunk stories!
This is all I want to talk about for past few years ( I live in Pakistan) but it makes people very uncomfortable. People are not as much in denial anymore though, rather they are more nihilistic or just resort to religion and God will take care or useless technology shifts like solar panels and planting trees etc, i.e as you point out, uninformed action. The internet and active searches on it make the difference at moment for those who care to understand the climate crisis, and many more such videos etc are needed to come to a collective understanding that may steer things towards addressing the crisis in more effective ways ...at moment it is quite hopeless , please keep informing ...more power to all the journalists in this video
Almost every time an article comes out, a news report, a tv show and even these you tube videos,,, not many give solutions at the end of what the people watching or reading can do. everyone should be pushing zero waste, buying second hand, composting etc
People tend to only show concern when major events or personal circumstances affect them. As humans, we often prioritize our own interests and fail to extend the same level of care and concern to others. This raises the question: why is it so hard to care for others? Perhaps it's because there's no monetary reward for doing so. However, if we want to make the world a better place, we need to start caring more. Though it may be challenging, it's important to start taking action now. After all, if we don't start now, when will we?
The problem, imo, isn’t debating the science, it’s debating the policy. Too often climate change policy is thrown into other potential policy changes that aren’t related to climate at all.
I suggest we look at the goals of the Great Generation. This is the generation that grew up in the depression of the 1930's and then lived through WWII; situations that later generations have no comprehension of how harsh life was like then. The goal of the Great Generation was for their grandchildren to inherit a better world. We need to focus on the same goal relative to Climate Change. If we don't, then we our grandchildren will inherent a world with a very harsh environment. This assumes that climate change ( a cause for extinction of many species) does not lead to the extension of our species as discussed in a couple articles in the literature. At my age (72), Climate Change is just an inconvenience. But I fear for my grandchildren as to the world they will inherit.
"The problem is not the problem. The problem is your attitude about the problem."
12:20 How do we get our people to care about climate change?
No clue. People who are more creative, charismatic, intelligent and influential than I have been trying to make this topic a top priority for decades. I have nothing new to suggest or offer.
The times that the planet comes together for the environment feels totally and utterly random...like the switch away from plastic straws....who could have planned or predicted that imagery would be what did it?
I just hope we wake up sooner than later. I wish a major country would just commit to making this their top priority so they could be an example to the rest of the world what to expect. Both positively and negatively. Let other countries learn from those mistakes or kick start their own approaches.
I live in Canada...one of the major discussions right now is to kick start out military spending to comply with Nato due to the Ukraine and Russia war. Why not forego building what paltry military strength we have and instead help the entire world by diverting those funds and a lot more to becoming the global leader in climate change.
I feel rather ashamed and disappointed with all of us as a generation.
We complain about politicians and government not making rules and not taking action against CC. But in reality we should be analysing ourselves.
What do we use in a day and how much of that is really necessary?
For an example consider the developed countries in the world US, UK, Canada, EU countries, Australia.
All them combined have 1.5 billion people.
If half of those individuals considering their capabilities would decide to cut down the consumption of meat, fuel, milk &milk products, plastic, clothes, fish, inorganically grown vegetable by 50% and have them substituted with alternatives, that would change the game a lot.
Consider the concept of supply and demand if we cut the demand down by opting for locally sourced,recycled, organically grown products the economy will have to change for us as we are the consumers and we hold the power to turn the tide.
All that lacks is willingness. Or we get overwhelmed by the scale of it.
What if we all (as in the people who actually care) decide to reduce consumption of certain harmful product and post a short video with a #******
That will reach people faster, we all know it did the “Ice bucket challenge” so why not this.
We have the technology, we are educated and we do care then why aren’t we doing it?! Once we start this campaign it will definitely create a wave that will bring the changes we must do.
Some of you may think it’s waste of time and it’s worthless but explain why making stupid videos on TakTak 🤣 is worthwhile.
Lastly even if I or we fail to bring any change, when my last moment comes I won’t have the regret that I did not do what I could have done.
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I feel like, our fashion of consumerism depends mostly on how people or society accepts in terms of how fashionable things made us look rather than how much our fashionable recyclable, environment friendly and sustainable. So, we need to change the way society values our preferences then everybody tends to use the things that other values or like (natural psychology).
I wish my family and friends cared more about environment and would take interest in hearing me talk about it. I am a walking encyclopedia of climate change and space and science and math and paychology just from how many videos like this I watch daily. Great videos like this!
Me too. My family just glaze over when I talk about climate change, and then change the subject to talk about something banal. Ostriches come to mind... Sad really, they're supposed to be my superiors!
I too try to explain them.. but they make fun of me . They think I am the young and do nothing just have little bit of knowledge about nature .. they think think they are supreme they have mind they are genius they are always correct. These old generation people think themselves too much smart. I hate it . I am a teenager and youngest in my family . Because of this they don't listen what I am talking .. they do not pay attention. they do not find my my thoughts correct and I think their ego makes it it difficult to convince them that they are living with wrong beliefs... for many years.
Sorry , I was carried away. If there's is a mistake plzz correct me.
@@aksaarman9631 perfect reply Aksa. Well done to you for trying to communicate with your friends and family on this terrible tragedy. All you can do is present the facts to them and hope that they change their minds. You are right. They are wrong. Keep believing in yourself!
Agreed. We can't make them understand nor make them change. I believe it requires a culture shift. We all believe the things we do are fine from the influence of those around us growing up. Some things are hard wired like smiles, laughter and anger but so much is conditioned which is fine unless it's important to change. There's nothing wrong with civilization having social contracts like it's rude to interrupt but "must own car(s) to be considered high status"... Actually if we designed our cities like the chanel Not Just Bikes explains then we wouldn't need cars as often as we do and we wouldn't pollute as much, we would be safer, happier and have more physical activity (good for our bodies and minds)... And almost anything you can think of like shaking hands or have to have a green mowed lawn or or or, are all just social constructs that could have easily been constructed differently and wouldn't be wrong... Only right or wrong because society decided it is. All to say, we should be more open to different ideas and adapting as we learn about better ways to do something.
@@JJ-zg1hh Thank you @JJ 😊.. I will convince them . I hope .. do u know I have participated also in MUN model united Nation. I pointed out strong things which is still far from us in MUN. And I doing self paced course in cities and climate change in un cc. learn.
Many of the solutions to reducing greenhouse gas emissions have other (more immediate/local) benefits as well. For instance the Dutch system of urban planning, where infrastructure is focused around bicycles and public transport (in oppose to private cars), has been shown to be a very efficient use of space and allows much larger volumes of people to move back-and-forth with relative ease. Not the mention the improvements in urban air quality, which also come with EVs (yes, I know there are issues with the manufacture of EVs and electricity generation for charging - but that can be cleaned up - burning fossil fuels in ICEs can only be cleaned up to a certain extent).
So in terms of selling policy changes to the public - perhaps the focus should be more on the more immediate/local/relatable benefits on de-carbonising? Rather than abstract climate change?
We have to change so many things. How we find the words to get people to change their wasteful lifestyles, and governments to not expect infinite growth, I don't know.
I think you missed the most important thing hinted at in the beginning. Climate change makes people feel sad, worried, angry while someone sending a rocket into space makes people feel inspired, excited and optimistic. The latter helps sell ads and encourage people to watch.
actually it doesn't make me feel inspired at all, i can't believe someone spent so much money for such a thing while some people don't even have money to buy food or have access to clean water!
There is no talk or discussion about climate change, it’s a one way street. It is nearly as warm as the medieval warm perod. After a drop in temperature during the little ice age we’re back to ‘normal’. How much the climate warmed depends where you start with the zero warming point. In this case a fictitious point at end of the 19th century and not the point before the little ice age started (about the same temperature as it is now). ‘Pre industrial’ means nothing else than in the little ice age, that’s insane 🤷♀️
This is the time that we show the world that we do care about the climate change and we do encourage the content and the creators on climate change . so to all the viewers of this particular video do like and share it and show the world that we care .
Politics is what could solve the climate! Sure if the public would talk a lot more about it that could pressure policies but even without that, decisions on government level could be based on science.
People hate pollution, pollution hates the planet (and also us)
We now can and will eliminate pollution for the first and probably last time in our short history of economic development, and at the same time, we will be much better off (you can reverse this sentence if needed).
That alone should be the driving factor.
The only reason I've started to greatly pay attention to the solutions and upgrade my worldview on climate change is because an experience of mine made me realise how outdated it was (only by 15 years, too!) and that I need to stay updated simply because everything is happening really fast. I mean, look at the deceasing niche uses for hydrogen for example - electricity keeps on proving to be better and better.
How old is the ice that is currently melting at the poles? I have looked for this answer for a while and haven't found anything. I think it would be illustrative of how not-normal the world is and could be a little persuasive.
This is a controversial topic indeed. While scientists differ on this, the estimated age of Arctic ice ranges from 700,000 to 4 million years.
Really good video. - Mentally I feel like climate action sometimes get too populistic - plastic straws and recycling being examples of things we might do, things that make us believe we are helping, but makes us conveniently paying less attention to things that really matter, such as our own aggregated consumption or the major contributers of our systems of interaction. E.g. I'm danish, Its nice our government builds sus.energy and municipalities makes recycling viable, make me feel green, reality is though that danes are one of the most poluting people due to our high consumption, meat-mentality and wealth.
According to my views, people thought that this climate change is really a big issue but they can't do anything at their ground level or they thought that their sole effort will not make any difference.
Companies are waiting for the situation to go worse, so that they can capitalize on it.
Germany is very serious my airbnb host was so nice and he invited me to breakfast and all he asked of me was to be aware of the climate and recycle and take action he was an older man too.
For the last 1 year i have been discussing this with so many people, everyone i talked to cared about climate change and wanted to do something about it.
But at the end of the day i feel we are trying to save our convenience and not our planet...
I get a nagging feeling of despair when I make any personnal life-style effort to reduce my carbon footprint but watch the rest of the world carry on reguardless; but I'll keep going!
How do we get people to care? Simple. Education.
For Covid the NZ government got out in front of the people daily and educated us about what figures mattered and what we could do to influence it at the society level. No other country has had the success and freedom balance like NZ.
Maybe the government could provide the detail to the media like they do the weather? A daily 30 second bit added into the weather would go a long way. Followed up by a central information campaign.
I would love to be an actor against the climate change and play my part but reality .... I need to get a work that can help me pay my rent, my food... I know, I could work with teams that are actors. The problem is they don't have the money to help me pay my rent. They (most of them) want me to work full-time without paying me.... I got an interview for that kind of "job", I couldn't accept it. And I regret it in a way, and I don't regret it also. I'm part of the audiovisual industry, and I want to participate to open sight on this subject, but I need to sleep and eat... Sorry, not sorry. 😒
very good topic and video. 💪
This is the unfortunate situation around the world. However I feel it is more pronounced in the underdeveloped and the developing countries. Often times, climate change is not in the top 10 issues to address for the government or for individuals in these countries, as there are other issues that get prioritised over climate change.
As long as political leaders are concerned primarily about vote banks and the next elections, their priorities will be on issues that are short term and/or issues that have an immediate effect on the public. A few green projects are set up by the governments here and there, to probably tick off their box for doing something green.
As for individuals, the green solutions are simply not affordable. For example, buying a petrol car is 30% to 40% cheaper than an electric car, majority of people in these countries would find it difficult to afford a petrol car let alone an electric car.
Just wanna say I appreciate the clips used from 9:14, that’s so awfully powerful.
It's hard to care until your experiencing it's effects first hand. People living in a four season climate will hardly feel it's effects and will probably only care when it doesn't snow anymore and it's probably too late to reverse the effects at that point.
I'm not sure about that. I live in the UK which has a temperate 4 season climate (although we seem to have lost winter this year), and I have noticed changes over the last two decades. The frequency of locked in weather patterns, where it can be bone dry for weeks or even months (czcams.com/video/ybCa9hAlf0s/video.html), or weeks/months of soaking wet weather (czcams.com/video/yRM53y_8SkI/video.html) seems to be increasing. It is making managing my allotment more and more difficult. Climate change projections are that the UK will have more frequent intense rainfall events in the future, and the UK's infrastructure is not ready to deal with this.
it's already barely snowing here (germany, up at the baltic sea), and big coastal cities are already building ever higher protections against the oceans. Still a lot of people dont care :/
no one will feel the effects of it ever. it's a fairy tale.
schwierige sache. würde sagen in erster linie ist da die politik in verwantwortung zu ziehen. n großteil der bevölkerung wird niemals von selbst anfangen klimaneutralität zu verlangen.
That's the exact problem.
The idiot masses will not elect politicians who would be willing to take action against climate change, so we therefor have no politicians who are willing to take action and implement measures that would force the idiot masses to behave in a way that stops climate change.
It's a cycle.
The thing is that to stop the climate change you have get a little bit uncomfortable and disrupt your life. Its the same as looking after your health. The best thing to say is that if you dont do it now your life will be more disrupted in years to come due to consequences of global warming. Of course now having capacity to think about such problems is a luxury. And the most important thing is to make good policies that will make it easier for people that struggle everyday to make environmentaly good decisions. The most important and radical decisions have to be taken by people in power who surprise surprise we choose.
The main problem is that there isn't any real and strong political push to stop that. Legislations and other standards are woefully inadequate. And people don't give a fuck, because it doesn't affect their life. Raising taxes on polluters would be a great step at first as well as doing complete financial restructuring.
The UN's IPCC AR6, chapter 12 "Climate Change Information for Regional Impact and for Risk Assessment", section 12.5.2, table 12.12 confirms there is a lack of evidence or no signal that the following have changed:
Air Pollution Weather (temperature inversions),
Aridity,
Avalanche (snow),
Average precipitation,
Average Wind Speed,
Coastal Flood,
Agricultural drought,
Hydrological drought,
Erosion of Coastlines,
Fire Weather (hot and windy),
Flooding From Heavy Rain (pluvial floods),
Frost,
Hail,
Heavy Rain,
Heavy Snowfall and Ice Storms,
Landslides,
Marine Heatwaves,
Ocean Acidity,
Radiation at the Earth’s Surface,
River/Lake Floods,
Sand and Dust Storms,
Sea Level,
Severe Wind Storms,
Snow, Glacier, and Ice Sheets,
Tropical Cyclones.
There is no objective observational evidence that we are living through a global climate crisis. None.
I'm with you on this one. I'm a school teacher trying to explain complicate facts to young students and hopefully make a difference in the process. But most just look at one narrative.and say "that's bad... therefore this company/group should change" and refuse to acknowledge how it relates to themselves...
Climate change is too complicated, too big for normal people to wrap their head around. It would take to much energy to understand the mechanics that change our climate and too much effort to feel like you are making a change so people give up, ignore and continue living like the rest.
Climate issues are best fed to the public in bite size pieces. Like when we gave that gaping hole in the ozon layer some attention. Bitesize..
Or just give omnipetent governmental control to the smartest and highest class among us. Because that has historically worked.
The more climate change is politicized, the more difficult it is for me to embrace the science uncritically. When a reporter says that "99% of scientists agree that climate change exists," I don't find the result to immediately suggest that the science is irrefutable. Far from it. In fact, such a number is not at all surprising when you take into consideration that you cannot get a job as a climate scientist if you don't believe in anthropogenic climate change. Unfortunately, I think this impedes the improvement of scientific knowledge because science--to me--seems to me to improve the most during debate and controversy. Maybe this is how you arrive at a consensus in the first place.
Assuming that the consensus on the effects of climate change and the cause behind it is sound, I still think we need to listen to critics and skeptics. No piece of knowledge is irrefutable, and the climate is such a profoundly chaotic system that I cannot in good conscience accept the predictions of a given climate model to be, at best, probable. To believe in any long-term outcome as a certainty would be inconsistent with everything I've painstakingly learned about the mathematical modeling of dynamical systems.
But I'm a scientist. I wholeheartedly agree that making the results personally relatable to all viewers is essential. I also think it's important to get people to feel that we're all in this together, we're all responsible, but we're not helpless. Combating helplessness by making collective climate action attainable should be the moral goal of climate reporting. This is why I like this channel.
It's hard to care, because there's nothing to care about. Globally the ACE index (accumulated cyclone energy) 1980-2021 shows no increasing trend. Global Hurricane Landfalls 1970-2021 (updated from Weinkle et al, 2012) shows no trend. Satellite data since 1980 shows a slight downward global trend for total hurricaine numbers with 2021 being a record low year. The IPCC reports in AR6, chapter 11, "The total global frequency of TC [tropical cyclone] formation will decrease or remain unchanged with increasing global warming (medium confidence)." Not that I really care about what the IPCC says. Multidecadal variability in Atlantic hurricaines is most probably related to the AMO (Vecchi et al, 2021). NOAA data 1851-2021 shows no trend in number of hurricaine landfalls with the record high being 1886. What the data from NOAA SPC shows about tornados: EF1-EF5 (1954-2022) no trend; EF3-EF5 (most destructive) (1954-2022) 50% decline. No EF5s in US since 2013 (a record absence).
The Global Land Precipitation Anomaly from AR5 will disappoint with deviations from the average increasing by 0.2% per decade, but if you look at the actual data, it's just very variable over the decades.
Drought appears to be decreasing globally (Watts et al, 2018) measured by SPI 1901-2017.
For every million people on earth, annual deaths from climate-related causes (extreme temperature, drought, flood, storms, wildfires) declined 98%--from an average of 247 per year during the 1920s to 2.5 in per year during the 2010s.
Data on disaster deaths come from (EM-DAT, CRED / UCLouvain, Brussels,Belgium. )
Globally 2000-2019 there was a large decrease in cold-related deaths and a moderate increase in heat-related deaths (Zhao, 2021, Lancet). However, coldwaves are over 9 times more likely to kill than heatwaves, so the overall result is very beneficial.
What else? Oh, deserts like the Sahara have shrunk considerably and the Earth has greened by 15% or more in a human lifetime (NASA).
The Great Barrier Reef's coral cover has reached the greatest extent ever recorded.
On extinction the rate is very low: 900 known lost species for 2.1 million known species in 500 years. At that frequency it will take over 930,000 years to reach 80% extinction of species experienced at the K-T boundary that saw the extinction of the dinosaurs.
There is no climate crisis.
This points out the exact problems over why it's not getting more traction climate journalists need to watch this video to spread more awareness
The problem is, you either have journalist or you have activist. Those that push climate change because they do not look at REAL science are activist. Those that do look at real science do not push the theory of man made climate change.
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Lmao youre one incredible simple mind
@@jeffsmith9351 Having a mind that can see the truth does not require it to be simple.
@@richardcowley4087 They have proven it is POSSIBLE for co2 to increase temperature IN AN ENCLOSED environment with water vapor. The atmosphere is not enclosed, and a lot of it does not have water vapor.
@@richardcowley4087 Sorry, but I have seen the drawings of the original test. He had a brass container and used compressed salt as the window. Everything kept the infrared inside. One test had normal atmosphere and the second had double the co2. Both had water vapor. Water vapor absorbs most of the infrared that co2 emits.
I have seen the bell jar someone else used, and if you have ever been in a car that was enclosed on a hot day, you would know that glass blocks infrared light.
This is a wonderful channel. What is that beautiful song that starts at 11:00?
Thank you for the support, D! The reporter will check what song this is and get back to you 🙂
Most people care about Climate change. If governments provide alternatives to people, for daily utilities and resources which cause climate change, people would happily embrace the new resources. Point is, governments don't invest enough into resources which prevent climate change.
Please don't put people into bad light by saying, we don't care about climate change. Hold the governments and big corporations responsible.
It's always someone else's fault. In this case, government or corporations. You do something, quit this 'we', 'them', business.
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I did. I became a vegan. I gave up traveling in a car, using public transportation. I bought a ebike for local travel. I don't buy stuff in a plastic box. I go to local farms for my veggies. I use paper based detergent. All and even more. I do this with a lot of trouble and difficulties.
Its easy for folks to walk into a supermarket and buy stuff displayed nicely in a plastic wrapper/box. It's easy for folks to jump in their gasoline car and travel.
Point is, if governments and corporations got rid of these bad practices which damage the env...and got a sustainable replacement, wouldn't the people happily use it. We don't have a choice. Corporations have made it so easy for people to use their products. My ask is to make rules and regulations for corporations by the govt, to invoke environmentally healthy practices in their manufacturing process, and find alternatives to damaging practices.
The alternatives are there, it's researched and available, but corporations are not implementing them because they won't be able to make money.
For a year now I've been consistently watching DW Planet, which is a great channel, and sometimes Our Changing Climate, just because I wanted to learn more about things in general. I guess I forgot how little everyone else knows, because the statistics I heard did not match my personal exposure to this topic.
This is one of the reasons why i tend to talk a lot about that stuff.
My friends know that i can be a bit pesky, but if there is new people around, jeeeeeeeeez, they heard of it and think someone should do something. If they arent cussing about FFF, they are the "most positive" people, most others know jack shit or just instantly get defensive without any damn clue.
But jeah, thats why i think talking about that with normal people is part of the work to get change done :P
I care a lot about the environment but I agree it can be quite depressing and feels very hopeless and intangible for MOST people yet here I am🤷♀️⭐️🌎
I’m 65 I’m a mech eng and own a software company - my footprint is tiny (vegan, don’t use a car, use solar power, etc etc) - I predicted the problem you’re discussing here 15 years ago - using (the possibility of) climate change as the reason we need to move to sustainable way of living - even now, people see climate change as debatable…and somewhere in their mind something off in the future - luckily there are reasons to switch to sustainable/clean energy sources that are irrefutable, as they are already happening - e.g., Cancer, Lung disease. Asthma, birth defects, etc etc are all direct effects of burning fossil fuels and touch every family on the planet to fix climate change- maybe we should stop trying to scare the sht out of everyone about what might happen in the future and focus on the death and destruction that is happening right now.
I kept waiting for you to make the connection between who owns media (massive corporations), and how they benefit from the current planet destroying system.
Make climate actions sexy and funny. See youtubers like Not Just Bikes or Climate Town. Changing the whole world in one day is impossible, rather slice it to a smaller scale. More walkable places, less reliance on fossil fuels. Change car and single family home culture. Make hype video everytime, there is a big public transport project being built, bike lanes, pedestrian zones. New vegan food products, new sustainable energy sources. Whenever an fossil fuel plant gets replaced etc! MAKE IT FUN, most of these things are fun and interesting, doom and gloom changes nothing
Couldn’t agree more. That’s part of what I’ve loved about the YT climate change scene lately. Lots more channels out there which are communicating in lots of different ways.
And I truly believe that we need a variety of communication strategies to match the variety of people out there.
Even this excellent video didn’t really talk about climate solutions. The most important is to legislate a global reduction in fossil fuel production. There need to be severe penalties for overproduction. This will drive prices up and demand down. Fossil fuel producers should be allowed to keep some of this extra money to encourage their cooperation, but most should be refunded back to people to help them invest in alternatives and/or be able to pay bills. Over time the escalating cost of fossil fuels will encourage companies to invest in cleaner alternatives (e.g. hydrogen planes, electric cars, better construction) or they will see reduced demand for their products. Today fossil fuels are so cheap most people just don’t care about the impact. Lack of government action also sends a signal that maybe climate change isn’t as big of a problem as scientists are saying.
In Australia and Europe people have put a lot of solar cells on roofs. We want to do what we can. However the Murdoch media has been in climate change denial until a few months ago. They have confused and amused people, distracting them from the whole issue. They are responsible for much of the reluctance to tackle climate change.
been hearing the polar ice caps will be gone in 10 years for almost 50 years. its been drummed over and over with nothing happening making people indifferent about the topic
Gene Sharp wrote about 20 books on nonviolent resistance. They help us understand the political climate and how to use demonstrations and rallies, like FFF and XR. This involves spending time and money without getting a return our time or money, like when we help a charity. Elon Musk and Tesla use capitalism to win the fight for climate and they are so successful he is one of the richest people in the world. So starting or supporting a business which helps climate helps environment and our economy. And then we have lifestyle choices. I have been trying to convince Greta Thunberg and her supporters with FFF to actively encourage riding a bicycle as a way to help climate. Every city in the world is building bike lanes, all of them. But now we need to fill them with cyclists. How do we do this and do it relatively quickly?
Amanda Coulson-Drasner have you done any presentations about bicycling from the angle of how it helps climate? If not, how can we do one (or more)?
Only 65k views. That's quite low for a DW offering...
I reckon this channel is doing a great job of raising awareness. Climate action also needs to linked to the individuals ability to increase wealth. I went Vegan to mitigate climate change, but I was surprised that a plant based whole foods vegan diet saved me Massive amounts of money. Coupled with solar, BTC, farming, etc your costs drop and wealth increases. Particularly here in Africa we need more wealth, and if that's correlates with climate action, then good results are possible.
I haven’t really cared so far. Since I saw the diagram how the life will change and think about my small kids and maybe grandkids I am getting frustrated and ready for action.
I think the easiest target who will care about climate change are people with kids. If I did not have kids, i would not care because it does not affect me too much, i just use one more air conditioner.
Yes exactly, it's correct no one is carring about climate and its effect in us... Very sad, I don't know what we will give to Next Generations.
You can't make a person care about climate change. You can show them realistic visions of the future with and without making a change. You can ask them what benefits they will experience from making a change and what benefits they will experience from not making a change. You can ask them what the downside would be for them if they don't change and what the downside for them would be from changing. Then, after they have thought it through, you can ask them if they prefer the vision of change or the vision of the status quo. This gives people the tools to make informed decisions that they came to on their own. A person making an informed decision about their own survival and of those they love will lead to a choice for survival in most cases. Then they need to know what manageable action they can take and to be shown and helped by someone who has already mastered that action.
what is meant by the term " discourses of delay " ?
In desperate times (and the climate crisis and several other eco disasters should make us desperate indeed) we need drastic measure. Deep inside we all know that - and most of us detest it and try to deny that fact. Changing e.g. the food or agriculture sector would not be enough by far. Culling the traffic sector, especially flights, would be needed too, but nobody accepts that so far. Many other habits, from our manicured gardens to crypto currencies to the horrible garment industry (fast fashion) to second homes, should be dumped. No sign of that so far. In older times I would have said we change our attitudes in glacial speed. But that would not be correct anymore, would it?
In fact, it is not sexy to waste less, consume less, especially not drastically less. True frugality is not a good look on Instagram. Also, life is short and people want to live it to the max, no matter the consequences ("bucket lists", "places to see before you die" or before they get ruined). Hence, hardly anyone wants to hear about it.
Since we tackle neither population (via contraceptives!) and instead use wishful thinking in that area, nor change drastically in respect of consumption and waste, our timid leaders decided to do some cosmetics on the corpse.
That is the sad truth: Changing to renewable energy is not the silver bullet, nor is e.g. veganism in the West. (It could have been enough if we would have implemented that decades ago.) The measures needed would be drastic and need the participation of quasi the entire world. And that may only happen when it is far too late to stop "vicious cycles" in the climate. Hence the lack of interest in talking about Climate Change. At all.