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Hey Goodhumans! This was one of the most requested episodes weâve had. It was also one of the toughest to tackle for our team, but deeply illuminating for us as well. We hope the same for you.
Here at Jubilee, we believe in the value of open & honest discussions in order to pave a path towards empathy and develop a better understanding of people with different perspectives. Capturing the complexity and deeper nuances of a topic in a short period is incredibly difficult. However, we hope this discussion can inspire you to dive deeper and spark your own conversations. Weâd love to be a part of it and hear your own insights below, so please share đ
This shouldn't be a debate. The lives of the youth is at stake.
the skeptics are heroes
this comment section is one large echo chamber
Flat earthers and scientists!
I do like your videos but tbh this one let the skeptics get away with a bit too much misinformation. Maybe fact checking on screen would be good? I know you all want to stay neutral but staying neutral and staying in the middle are two different things, when one side is far to one aisle than staying in the middle would not be neutral
Lady: I know a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy
Man: I'm literally a scientist lol
King Irene DEADASS - like who am I going to believe : a woman who wishes to speak to the manager or a damn scientist
She's probably Saul Goodman's ex wife
I believe in climate change and scientists are smart but Iâm not trusting everything they say no should really
@@teedee4095 well obviously you shouldn't if it's anything outside of their field
But, she's right to the extent that climate has and will continue to change long after we have gone. Now what she failed to say because of her non-climate scientific background is that we as humans are having an adverse and increased affect on the climate change and patterns globally due to our industrialisation etc.
Michael: Socialism
James: China
Keith: The Constitution
the holy trinity
lmfao
Hotel: Trivago
Are they wrong though? No. They believe in climate change, they just dont think the way people are going about fixing it is best.
America cant fix the problems earth has, every country does, and you know what that means? More taxes for Americans because what i said earlier about "America cant fix the problems..." is wrong. We can, we just have to pay the other countries a lot of money to be able to, and then hope that they actually do and dont just take the money.
â@@brandipityha9457Im not sure of how far that hope will really go. Not to be too pessimistic I dont think its gonna help that much
When you realized all the skeptics are old people who will die before anything drastic happens during their lifetime
That is the main problem with the issue. Almost all of the people in power will die before anything drastic happens.
so will we. were supposed to be under water according to al gore
Exactly, they donât care because they wonât be here long enough to witness any of the detriment they left behind.
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Let's hope they die sooner rather than later.
Blonde lady: "an eco-friendly lifestyle is so expensive, take my lifestyle as an example..."
Anybody with common sense: "are you living an eco-friendly lifestyle though?"
Blonde Lady : "no"
She's saying it's expensive to live the opposite lifestyle of eco
The main three points skeptics rely on:
1. China
2. The money
3. Our Constitution
Smh no wonder why our environment is going down the drain..there is way too much greedđ€Šââïž
and actual facts
THE LAAAAAWN!!!!!!!!
Alexia Gonzalez ikr they are basically saying âwe have to keep the USA going to get money and to satisfy ourselves.â If we ban certain things like large amounts of factories producing pollution we will have a decrease in jobs. (Loosing people, money, etc) We have to do better; not just ban things. Little things help but it will help greatly in the future. For example, banning plastic bags or common plastic items (or reducing selling amounts which will make someone very upset). Someone has to take the hits for protecting our earth... which is us because we are all so selfish.
For sure. That one woman was all saying how she had no say in her state but I don't think she realizes how much say she has compared to literally every other country. There are too many people who would rather throw out the entire earth than make their lives more eco friendly. And that's sad that they are able to have the choice to ruin billions of people's lives or try to save them.
@@AppleBottomJ exactly and it's sad that so many people don't understand the concern to preserve the little bit of environment we have left.
Skeptics: "what about my choice"
Y'all aint gonna get a choice for anything when we're all dead
They will literally be dead and leave us with no choice..
Itâs amusing how majority of the Climate Activists are apart of the generation that have to deal with the earth in the next generation.
Samantha Elford boomers like their money too much
I would've just said the truth, which is America changing wont change our pollution. Because of other countries ignorance. We should look to the stars and move to a different planet
That lady is seriously lost in her own beliefs it's just amazing shes old she doesnt give a fucj what going to happen these are the most dangerous type of people and ignorant white woman in america
"The United States is held more responsible", well yes, it was the ONLY country who came out of the Paris treaty which was a small step towards addressing the issue, not Russia, not China, US!
Yeah but Russia's only income is made by selling gas - and Russia has Methan under it's ice, which is melting right now and Methan is way, WAY worse than CO2.
And China...guess what. They are the worst country for pollution. Right now they are on par with the US for CO2 emission, but they have three times the population, so in the future it will be three times the pollution.
And then there is Brazil, which chops down their rain forest for money and India, which is just another China.
Oh it's not looking good for this planet.
@@mistermarcus4281 China probably has such a massive pollution rate because of American's infantile need for cheap and frivolous goods and corporations need for factory slaves.
@@mistermarcus4281 Can you do me a favor and find this excellent German 6 million views video, I can't put links here, channel do not allow any links: Who Is Responsible For Climate Change? - Who Needs To Fix It?
Not Russia cause they sell just gas and not China cause of the air pollution
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Interviewer: "I believe global warming should be our number one concern."
Karen: "No, Socialism."
I believe in global warming, but I still disagree that it should be the number 1 concern. Number one is homelessness. 2nd is stop increasing the housing prices. 3rd is global warming.
@@goldlilys Solving 3rd you will improve first and second, but not solving 3rd you will need more and more every year for 1,2.
@@goldlilys capitalism is the disease and socialism is the cure
@Patriot no itâs not. Policies are not socialism. Socialism does not come through the current government. Socialist movements come from the workers
@Patriot Biden can print money to oblivion and implement every dem agenda and it still wouldnât be socialism. Socialism has nothing to do with that and everything to do with whether or not workers control the means of production
âAn eco-friendly lifestyle is expensiveâ
Skeptics: ( *who donât live eco-friendly lifestyles* ) yes
Right? Like why donât you ask the three people that actually LIVE that way whether itâs expensive rather than assuming to fit your political bias.
California is already expensive
Chrone Nojysk Yeah, so maybe their problem is with California then and not eco-friendly living.
@@larryjohnson5273 If we just remove California off the world, then the world would be a better place.
Chrone Nojysk California has the one of the highest GDPs of anywhere in the world, so that probably would not have a positive effect on our global economy.
Blonde lady in a nutshell: "I know you have evidence and facts, but I have beliefs so we're even"
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Christians VS atheists all over again
Cherry picked evidence and facts.
You have facts but I have feelings soooo.....
Ineffable Being more like cherry picked counter evidence
"I'd like to bring up my concern about china again" how did jubilee get my grandpa on camera
i feel like it would be cool to see an offspring of someone talk with their elders with different views. see if it would make a bigger impact
@@luluandhailee2804 i mean that's my household but it usually ends in yelling lol
I laughed out loud when she said "threats to western civilization" that really was one of those phases that tells you everything about a person.
majored in first world problems lol
@@gnuziilol imagine not caring about Europeans just because weâre white
Imagine thinking you know a person from their job lmao
@@luisfilipe2023do you know what the western civilization is? Im also a white European.
â@@luisfilipe2023what does "Western civilization" have to do with Europeans? What?
Skeptic guy: *hates China for a living*
Also Skeptic guy: âI donât want to change cos China wonâtâ
China actually has been doing a lot in helping with climate change. I am originally from China and one of my relatives visited Beijing. It's doing a lot in converting to renewable energy sources. Might not be making a huge difference as of right now, but for the long term.
The reason China and India produces so much C02 is that they have the largest populations and are fast growing nations.
If you search up PER PERSON C02 emissions, US would be #1.
US's pollution is extremely unproportional to its population size.
This dude brought up LAWNS as a argument against fighting climate change đ. Sorry but lawns are a needless symbol of class that are useless outside of water waste.
I totally agree with you that lawns are completely a useless argument against climate change but I would like to point out that lawns aren't useless! We use our lawn for children to play on and when we have sheep that's where they stay
Aida McEwen Most neighbourhoods have parks that provide large fields for all children to play on. In this day and age, I rarely see children outside playing at all. A decade ago, this would have been different, but times have changed.
Sheep donât live on lawns. Lawns exist in our front and backyards, I donât know about you, but I havenât seen any sheep being raised in yards. Youâre talking about pastures.
Aida McEwen ... I donât know if that was sarcasm. If it was, forgive me. However, if it was serious, Iâm not even going to address the sheep. Thatâs just ridiculous. However, are you saying your children need grass to play on as a necessity? Water, shelter, and food are necessities. I wonât go further in case, again, it was sarcasm.
I think your argument would work even without reducing stuff down to class. Lawns can also be used for growing food, reducing car trips to activities or even parks and forests. If it's determined by experts to be a meaningful negative I wouldn't mind regulation, but that doesn't mean I'm some capitalist puppet for enjoying green next to where I live.
karen dunn Healthy lawns actually help cool the air temperature. That proposal solves one issue but helps create another.
Small suggestion: Start doing Jubilee video's with people from all around the world, not only Americans. That would really show all kinds of perspectives throughout the world. I understand the quality of the video's would go down as not everyone can speak as fluently as natives but it would really add another layer of depth to see and hear the opinions of people on other parts of the globe :)
Very well said! I love these videos, but I very often feel alienated because they seem to be based on the wrongful assumption that the US represents the world.
You want them to flight people over? LMAO
Would be interesting to include a few videos featuring Europeans as views would be very different in the different regions (Northern Europe, British Isles, Mediterraneann, Former Yugoslavian states etc. )
Thatâs expensive
Yes!! The rest of the world thinks America is a joke. Get these people out if their echo chambers
A debate cannot be had when one side refuses to accept basic reality and scientific fact. And we didn't make this a political issue. They did.
I agree the activists are out of touch with reality.
A debate cannot be had when one side says the other doesn't accept basic reality.
There's no "basic reality" with climate change. It's a slippery slope with the consequences being unknown. There's legitimate statistics pointing to the end of humanity within a few centuries, and there's legitimate statistics showing it will have little consequence. Don't boil this down to being "simple" when its really not.
@@demetter7936 itâs not simple by any means but itâs still an issue that we as humanity have a power to change in small acts within our community. Iâm pretty sure everyone with the knowledge of basic 7th grade science understands that climate change IS affecting the world in a negative way. We donât know the outcome if we donât do anything about it 100% but we WILL understand the outcome if we actually do something about it like normalizing recycling in every day homes around the world and actually caring about our surroundings. Time will only tell.
@@roxanne_ You have the brainpower of an infantile animal if you seriously think "we can help change the entire planets weather if we just work together with the power of friendship guys :DDD"
The EPA did, the ever more popular idea among the elites that we need to have carbon taxes is very political. The lack of choice and say how we tackle the problem is a freedom issue, which is inherently political. It's been political since day 1.
âMy friend has a successful business that was later found to be harmful to public health and now heâs out of business!! This is not fair!!â
Lol, can't have been that good if he couldn't replace his truck.
@@EddieOdora I was thinking the same thing. If it was really going good, where all the money went?
so trueđđŒ
eddie odora đčđčđč true that!!! My petty ass would have said it out loud
@Cece Ruben Has your husband been in the business for 40 years and doesn't have 50 grand to show for it? That's putting less than 2,000 in saving a year. I'm a poor working college student and I can do that. Considering the guys business was suppose to be successful he should have been able to afford a new truck.
And a quick search on google revealed that converting a diesel truck can cost as little as $8000.
"It's too expensive"
"Actually there are ways-"
"Stop making decisions for me"
hahaha!
I mean.. if they want us to "stop making decisions for them" they should stop deciding on how long our kids and grandkids will get to live for. Just because they want to water their lawn...
republicans in a nutshell
Lool
@@LL-cx4ug Experts like a bunch of empty minded alarmists that only repeat what politicians say. Great.
I find it a bit selfish on how skeptics feel suppressed by the fact that they have to start making better choices because of climate change and don't think twice of how we are also affecting different species that also have the right to live in a sustainable world.
lol @ species having "rights", a human made fictitious construction
Exactly đŻ They treated the question, âI know someone who has been affected by climate regulationsâ as an all bad negative thing. Like do they know that the food and water theyâll eat and drink will be covered in Salmonella and E.coli without regulations.
I feel so bad for the climate activists! đ imagine the level of patience they have to not shout at the other side.đ€Łđ€
For real. I have trouble to not shout at people saying retarded stuff đ
climate activism is a religion
@@qwertyqwerty-uc9pz âŠwell thatâs the first
I was thinking the exact same thing... I would be like Jennifer Lawrence in Don't Look Up, screaming at them
"Im a scientist"
"well Im not a scientist but i know a lot"
I donât think that was the same person
"I also know of a bunch if scientist that would disagree with you"
Okay trump
@@traceford4904 bruh we all know she cappin
@@swagbomb1 She did sound a lot like Trump.
Climate change activists: We have scientific records to prove humans are destroying the climate
Skeptics: I want to water my lawn
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Actually he didn't really explain that "scientific record" too well. I'm always skeptical when scientists make claims about the past of which we have so little actual data. Much of past "scientific" data is not all that accurate and there's a lot of "missing links". It's very difficult to conclude details about the past because there's just way too much data and way too little resources to find everything and put it all together.
Pisses me off as someone who lives in a place where homes have been destroyed because of the increase in flooding.
@@thecasualarthoe đ
@@cyclonemt rock layers trap CO2 for thousands of year so scientists can see what the level of CO2 was at any given moment in history.
Sometimes I have faith in humanity, then I watch videos like this and that faith dies because people are awful
I live in Belgium and there have currently been catastrophic inundations because of climate change. Homes were destroyed, villages were underwater, people drowed, people died. Even though all of this happened nowhere near where I lived, some children in my school did. While I was having the best holiday in spain, I got emailed by the school. While a student was in summer camp, she fell into the river, she was swept away by the current of the river and found by a farmer, dead in a field, far away from where she was last seen. She was only 14.
And I am now watching a pair of old people gambling on and on about how none of this is true, that this extremely brutal climate change is just natural? They are the generation who started to destroy our earth, and they are still shamelessly
continuing to do so. While they have fulfilled there "destiny" and lived there life, because of their ignorance and their selfishness, young people pay the priceof their actions, the future of humanity is dying.
And I'm beginning to think, maybe a world without humanity would be a better world.
Am with you 100%.
I will stand by the activists 100 %
Honestly Nicole
With this much chaos plus my ADHD plus depression
I so needed compassion and thought of coming to Belgium for Assisted Euthanasia
But funny thing is
Even if a human being wants to end their life gracefully and also in an altruistic pursuit of not burdening the already dying planet
Still they make it impossible with unnecessary sanctions and crazy expensive fees !! đą
yo wtf i wanna live. Just gotta live differently not be gone wtf
@@Phoenix00797 It's not too late.
âSome people canât water their lawns due to environmental restrictions.â
Thatâs such a first-world problem Lmao
Willow S, I agree, at least we are saving water.
I was like is he serious!?
Lmao in my country having a lawn is unheard of
@@galaxyqueen3064 ikr
@@nydea4realbaby yeah
âiâm not a climate scientist but i know a lot themâ,
she said..... to an actual, educated climate scientist
I would hate her, were it not for the sheer awe of how GIANT her balls must be to do that
@Artificial Sweetener Its not about predicting the future, its about acknowledging how climate has changed over the years, identifying the causes and effects of it and trying to prevent it from having devastating repercussions. I expect a climate scientist to know more about climate than someone who claims to "know a lot of them". Climate scientists dont just study the weather.
C.D. Collins A climate scientist IS a REAL SCIENTIST who studies the climate and other things that come with it. The video is not about debating anyone. Its about sharing views and finding a MIDDLE GROUND. They werent debating each other. The climate scientist just stated facts that he has studied for a long time while the other person was talking about things that she was clearly not familiar with.
C.D. Collins rewording your past comment doesnt mean you are saying anything new.
He's one biased man
Based on my observation, i think the winner of this debate is from the activist who have given facts and viable solutions in their statements while the skeptics have their feelings to use as their main argument
these episodes always present a stark difference in intelligence and factual information between the two sides.
old guy: âwe need to have a middle ground on thisâ
there canât be a middle ground when everyoneâs DEAD
There cant be a middle ground when the ground is burning
Best comment.
The middle ground would be 6ft under
The middle ground is polluted
Best comment
âIâm not a climate scientist but I know a lot of themâ oKAY Michael đ
Heh
âMen have nothing to do with it since climate change has existed before manâ
@fallon
Indeed! xD The next level is "I'm not a racist, i have a black friend!"
"I never went to law school, but you know my dad's a lawyer so if you need legal advice or anything"...
Karen wants to speak to your manager
I would love to see an updated version of this video, considering the fact that things have become more dire. I wonder if any of the skeptics have changed their minds?
Alarmists!
Believe me they won't.
@@nnanyelugoanekwe218 Maui, Greece, Libya...
I really hope they won't
Keith entered the wrong debate. He was asked to participate in a climate change debate but everyone one of his inputs was him just going on a tangent about the American constitution.
Literally, he was way too concerned about the constitution rather than the actual issue that could wind up in everyone being dead
News flash: the dying earth does't care about the constitution
Aquarianonymous, *AMEN*
The earth will not die, she will heal herself
Genesis Smalls could you heal yourself if people were sticking plactisc to you and ruining and slowing down all of your systems to create and support life (your organ systems) while pumping huge loads of smoke into your face for hundreds of years
Genesis Smalls she won't heal herself unless we fix her.
But the citizens do
Somebody tell the blonde lady 'trump is NOT a scientist!'
Thank you lmao someone had to say it
Universe in a Nutshell bet, we are still better than all of them in all categories
Alvaro Garcia So whatâs your point? We been knew tf? He ainât no scientist lmao
Ghost rider đ€Łđ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł
@Alvaro Garcia not a good one
I'm only 22 seconds into the video, but I can already say: do you want to be able to breathe on this planet freely and live the life we wish to live? Then yes, sometimes you have to do things you might not want to do, which is trying to protect our planet. If we go on like this and give people the choice whether to try to help our planet or not despite thinking "eh future generations might not have a healthy planet like that but hey, I don't want to do this because it's too much work and there's no chance in my lifetime it could result into something worse", we're not going to have something sustainable for future generations. Come on people.
Its like exercising. It sucks, but it will increase your life.
This video is the reason why I majored in geology and would like to study atmospheric sciences. thank you Don
âTheyâre not allowed to water their lawnsâ
A small price to pay for salvation
Theo Ramsay shh we donât bring thanos into this
salvation??? LMAO
Salvation in your own brainwashed delusional mind. You arent even vegan you damn hypocrite
@** x Right! Unless youre attracting bees or specifically creating a wildlife attractor or growingyour own food it's just an aesthetic thing and there are other ways to have pretty things to look at on the ground.
'Humans have no effect on the planet"
Industrial Revolution: Am I a joke to you?
1,100 likes and no replies? Let me fix that.
@@whatthe574 oh wow, I didnt even notice 1.1k likes till your comment notifcation popped up...
Really? Well, congrats on 1.1K likes then!
It really had no efect of the planet. See Tony Heller's video on data altering.
The meme sucks
This is weird, I feel it is interesting that there were divided opinions, but I feel extremely sad that there are people unwilling to bend their arm the slightest to help this planet thrive.
The dude complaining about taking their money and âputting it towards something Iâm not even going to use or benefit fromâ needs a reality check. Where does he think his Social Security came from? The people paying for his Social Security are not going to have Social Security when they need it, yet we are still required to pay into it. Welcome to real life.
a summary:
i donât want the world to end and will make sacrifices vs i donât want to spend money
The world's not going to end. Not even the scientist believes that.
I don't want HUMANITY* to end rather
...Wait but Iâm both those statements. âčïž wtf
right
On a lighter note: your picture is goals. GAVIN
Activist:âMy dad was very angry about losing money bc of regulations...â
Skeptics:*nod*
A:â...but it was much more beneficial in the long term.â
S:âWaitâ
I was gonna say that! They are part of the fortunate sector in the economy, and they only worry about losing money.
Cyd that part! like they were shook. They couldnât understand lol
Much respect to Natalie, Andrew and Don!
I live in Oklahoma. I would love to hear small town country folks opinions on this topic. Iâm hearing a lot of knowledge but to me they are speaking on/from a big city prospective. My suggestion, what about a big city prospective vs a small town prospective on both sides of the argument. Love you guys and this channel!â€ïž
The one guy was like "Im an actual environmental scientist" , and the blonde chick tried to combat his factual experience with anecdotal "evidence". Lmao WHAT?
Seriously!! Why did she even try to argue? She said she knew some scientists but I very much doubt theyâd say that climate change isnât being powered by humans.
âI know thousands of climate scientists who disagreeâ yeah ok lady.
âIâm not a climate scientist, but I know a lot of them.â
She said to a LITERAL climate scientist
that part SENT ME! she has zero credibility whatsoever!
@@madelewithluv Like HOW are you gonna argue with someone who has been studying the climate for years and made this his life career. What is not clicking!??
@@aleovm FACTSSSS she made herself out to be a damn fool!!!
Classic womansplaining
i died like what
"My uncle was an asbestos panel dealer, and when they banned asbestos he lost his business"
Pretty much the equivalent to the trucker argument.
I just did a binge watch of a few episodes of Jubilee debates and I think it does a GREAT disservice to the viewer and the participants to not show a unedited version of these conversations. For those who canât sit through long videos they could upload these small clips (donât totally agree with that because your not getting the whole picture) along with the full clip. This is just my opinion based on patterns I noticed in their editing. Also it is clear people like forming opinions about certain participants based on these 15min videos, I wouldnât feel confident in your judgement when you havenât heard all they have had to say. Just my two cents
Watering your lawn isn't a right, its a privilege.
wanna.Be.Finnish what about healthcare, internet, and college education.... guarantee you wonât respond to this one, hypocrite
Right can you imagine being so privileged you think being unable to water your lawn is the end of your rights. Cannot relate!
@@guissepee đ Why the heck are you concerned about health care being a right when our world is dying. Without an earth there is no free health caređ. Because there is no people to receive it.
@@guissepee healthcare is even more of a privilege that watering your lawn, start appreciating whats around you and stop always wanting more.
@@Solidude4 Damn that was well said man!
No one:
Literally no one:
James: BUT CHINA
Lmao I've been looking for this comment
He's speaking as if everything is China's fault and he's gonna use that as an excuse to justify why they shouldn't have to change, but if people keep on pointing fingers then no one I the end will change. Change starts with oneself first, rather than waiting for someone else to make the first move why not take that first step yourself. I'm sure there's people in China who's also trying to make a change, it just takes time and effort because a they're mostly outnumbered by those who'd rather destroy the environment than try to be eco friendly. The smallest action like switching off a room's light when it's not in use can make a difference, never underestimate the smallest change
I don't even get why he brought it up. Like just because one person doesn't stop their bad habit doesn't mean you need to keep doing yours.
Even china has caught on and started to try and change, it's become a global leader in renewable energy and is still investing billions in the transition from coal and oil. Like.
@@queenb9905 He brought it up because it's relevant to the conversation. When you're talking about climate change, you're talking about a global issue, not a national issue. And therefore, you cannot ignore the reality that nations like China and India, with their very, very large populations, are major players. The U.S. can have a net-zero emissions, and it wouldn't make a difference when China, India, and other nations are continuing their activities.
I feel so bad for these scientists Bc they spend years studying and know weâre doomed but they know people are stubborn and we canât fix it when we need to
Its so interesting to see how much the introductions can tell you about how crazy a person is
Climate Activist: We are literally all going to die.
This Guy: My LaWN ThO
Raj Wilson weâre all going to die in the next two years unless we stop having kids and driving cars.
@@Josh-kt3mn wut?
@@Josh-kt3mn ???????????
@@Josh-kt3mn FACTS
JoshV 93 Not really because cars are becoming electric, causing less pollution.
You can tell the skeptics are SEVERELY uneducated about the environment...
Which leads me to wonder, how exactly can we reach the hearts/brains of these people? Itâs obvious the data will NOT cut it, because to the average Joe science/advanced math is unintelligible. We need to find a way to make this climate conversation more open to people of all walks of life, not those who understand the science & have environmental empathy. We already have the scientists and environmentalists on our side, the argument needs to be specifically formulated for the skeptics. As one of the basic principles of arguments says: know your audience.
No they arent
As soon as someone says *Trump* has done X or says Y... they just agree and stop listening. If *facts* are presented and you donât believe your own eyes or ears.... I mean đ€·đ»ââïžđ€·đ»ââïžđ€·đ»ââïžđ€·đ»ââïžđ€·đ»ââïžđ€·đ»ââïžđ€·đ»ââïž
@@ITSxISABELx it has to be a direct impact on their lives otherwise they won't see it but even if that was to occur I don't think they would believe it.
â@@ashchong they literally used lawns as an argument against climate change. one of them said global warming infringes their rights from the constitution. the lady disagreed with a climate scientist simply because she "knew other climate scientists" that disagree with it, even though 99% of climate scientists agree that global warming is manmade. the blonde lady justified arguing against climate change and global warming simply because the climate has changed in the past, yet ignores looking at facts that tell you that it couldnt possibly be a "naTuRaL cYcLE" because the Earth is warming and being polluted at alarming levels. care to explain how they're not severely uneducated?
As an activist, I had a hard time not attempting to throw hands with these boomers.
50 years in the future: âSure the planet is destroyed, but let me tell you how great our economy was 50 years agoâ
*As a professional climate scientist, who has done this for 50 years.... Iâm afraid your not correct*
He just stated the facts đ
Almost every prediction of climate scientists were wrong.
Mayank Bisht name one, please
Stwinge44 âthe Maldives will be under water in 30 yearsâ
BRO JUST AS I SCROLLED TO READ THIS THE VIDEO WAS ACTUALLY SAYING OMG
Ineffable Being Iâm gonna need sources. And also links to scientific research that shows so.
I love how the activists were literal climate scientists and the denier was like...the west is under threat
âOh God I have to take Public Transportationâ âour whole society is under attackâ
true!
Scientists who are paid by media to spread fear? Climate change means more tax .. fear .. etc etc. Climate change total myth.
Climate regulation is a facade to try to pass more authoritarian and socialist policies through until the state has full control using fear as blackmail.
Politicians lie all the time.
Mainstream Media lie all the time, whether it's cable, newspaper, internet.
We can debunk Politicians and MSM lies cause we can do our independent researchs, something we can't do with climate change. They control the narrative.
0.8 degrees Celsius/1.4 degrees Fahrenheit in difference in the last 140 years is alarming.
I wish the climate activists would have brought more data to the conversation such as the cost efficiency of renewables. Skeptics want choice but they also won't make safe choices if they continue to be willfully misinformed.
Jubilee does a great job of asking questions that don't allow for any actual substance to be covered
They couldn't water their lawn?? And thats suppression?!? Try losing your home because sea levels have rose
Or not having the money to have fresh drinking water while some old man demands to water his lawn with fresh water. Or not having the money to eat fresh produce because the meat industry has destroyed too much of the farming ground. Or forest fires destroys entire states and takes peoples entire lives from them. Definitely feels like watering a lawn isnt that important
"rose" lol like the flower? đ
i just wait for rain to water my lawn
*risen. But I agree
You'd think that a black man from American would be a little more aware of what suppression really is.
On a positive note: orange is definitely that guys color. Good choice bro đđŒ
Lisa kayy lmao đ
this comment is so wholesome wtf. orange rly suits him
Yeah
his name is Andrew :)
was thinking the same thing! andrew if you read this, orange suits you dude!
I kind of agree with both lol.
the every day person has to change so much, and i'm sure it helps a little..... but also, the biggest things are out of our control. because it's the big companies that needs to change. Farming and slaughting animals..... fishing industry... THOSE things will still be there even if we go eco... i think the pressure is too big on people who already struggle. it's politics and industries that ruin things NOT us normal people.
Just discoved this channel... and it's the best.
Is it just me or do the climate change skeptics seem selfish? Like bruh, our earth is dying and all you care about is money?
âWhen the last tree is cut down, the last fish eaten, and the last stream poisoned, you will realize that you cannot eat money.â
They are right, if the US is the only one to change their way of doing things, you'll just end up worse while other powerhouses like Russia or China will rip the benefits.
@@amirboutabaa9028 Lol, Russia does not even have top 10 largest GDP.
Rim pak so what just be selfish? This isnât a country problem. This is a world problem. The US has a big impact, we arenât as environmentally friendly as one may think. If we find solutions other countries may follow. China has already made strides bc the issues have gotten so badly. China is a big factor but if we figure in the population, the US is one of the highest users of carbon emissions per person in the world. China having 4.58 per person and US having 19.78 per person to put it in perspective. Are you just gonna blame China when we are all dying bc we killed our own Earth.
@@amirboutabaa9028 This is a global problem so we should think of it globally. Right now America seems to be doing worse then any other country
@@christophedobbels8877 That's my point. But how do you achieve that ? How do you convince other countries to follow your lead on this ? It's almost impossible.
"I'm not a climate scientist but I know a lot of them."
That was probably the most Donald Trump thing i've ever heard a human being say.
Totally heard his voice when she said that! Smh
And... look at all the good that trump is doing
@@strykeranderson7460 how old are you, 10 years old.
Stryker Anderson why are you even watching this youâre like 10
I heard it in donals trumps voice lmaooo
I want a redo of this video!
The activists all seemed really well spoken and I appreciate them all a lot.
How could you be that selfish? "I want to water my lawn." Really?
yes. the lawn in front of her âsmall, one bedroom condoâ
Because they don't buy into your climate propaganda?
Of all the arguments they could have made... this is ridiculous!
@@leonardu6094
Yes, the propaganda
"Please stop destroying the earth! We live here. Our lives are at stake! I've studied my whole life about the effects of human interaction."
Yet you'll believe the CEO of a major oil company who's money is at stake when they say:
"Climate change isn't real. I did research on Google."
who the hell water loans? I think I've never seen it be more popular other than in America.
I mean, I don't want to seem too aggressive, but It's just a waste of water in my opinion...
There are some cases where you might want to do it, but I see that on most cases is just to have "pretty grass".
you don't need to have the greenest lawn in the neighbourhood, that's just a waste for your own ego.
we already have a huge use of water for golf fields and an excessive meat production (fields of food to feed animals). I think that that is plenty enough.
We are the biggest consumers of meat and the biggest owner of running water. WE have the responsibility to preserve our resources.
Also, I want to point out that if water was infinite, than I'd have nothing against wasting tons of it. But water is not in abundance and I think we need to give it some more respect and importance.
âwhen the last tree is cut down, the last river is polluted, the last species goes extinct, youâll realize that you canât eat money.â
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By your logic, we are koalas.
@Deanoss Last Alanis Obomsawin
The Lorax: A Live Action
Ugh so true
Can't wait for Don't Look Up after this!
I really find it interesting when you can tell by the appearances whoâs on which side.
gosh every argument of American skeptics i hear is always like "i don't wanna do anything because china doesn't either" đ€Šđ»ââïž
If one or 4 countries are taking actions and others don't, nothing gonna change, they just gonna throw money away.
@@pipoleo8982 but if you have that mentality than nothing is ever going to change. I know this sounds cliche but change really does start with one person or group. And also America is a major producer of greenhouse gases (second worldwide) so i do definitely think if we took some action, a lot would change
China os literally doing more than the US is
@@pipoleo8982 but if the western countries take actions than you have a start. We can even say we dont buy your stuff if you're not gonna change the way it is. But unfortunately all people give more about money than the future of the youth
@@ifonlycainwereabel2110 but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't be doing anything to stop it
One side is arguing about life or death while the other side is worried about inconvenience.
The same thing was said 30 years ago and we were given 12 years of life or we would all die. Why am I still here? Top NASA scientists said I would die in southern florida from flooding. Stop spreading misinformation, inform yourself.
@@alexrodriguez1534 What top NASA scientist said you would die from flooding 30 years ago?
@@marcorock7031 James Hansen
I'm with the 99% of you guys on climate change being a huge issue, but I don't think "life or death" is fitting.
These sort of problems exist in every generation and we always deal with them, yes we need to do something but we cant force a way of life on everyone. Obviously small regulations and educating everyone is good, but putting people out of work goes too far. I'm not against climate change but it's not just an "inconvenience", and its not "life or death".
Noor Nasri Why not? Laws force a way of life on everyone in one way or another.
Something I didn't hear when the activists and skeptics were discussing costs is the impact on the economically disadvantaged. Many people cannot simply choose to drive less because they commute to work & can't easily get new jobs closer to their homes. Also, the average person can't just go out & buy a Tesla. Some middle class families can afford hybrid vehicles, but people trying to work their way out of poverty (or keep from slipping into poverty) have to drive whatever kind of car they can afford, even if it's not "green."
This episode was way too short. I would like to see more of this discussion
Discussion need two or more people conveying information. Based on those recurements 0% of this video was discussion
@@viiltelijamurhaaja7225 what? I saw people discussing their views đ
@@ms.lethal614 Other side says what they get into their minds and other tells facts and opinions based on those facts
@@viiltelijamurhaaja7225 you are very strange
"climate change has nothing to do with humans" , when the largest decrease in air pollution was recorded during lockdowns in numerous countries.
Idk even how people think this. After the industrial revolution, you can see how the CO2 levels are just rising and rising, and how the temperature follows a similar, almost exact path.
@foop some climate âskepticsâ say the CO2 lagged the temperature the past 1 million years. But that was due to orbital cycles and CO2 caused the 2nd warming. And the current warming is definitely human caused. But people donât want to see that.
Heâs not saying that people donât pollute the air. Heâs saying that it doesnât have a serious effect on the overall climate.
YEEES, for the first time in a long time seasons feel normal, winter is cold and it's SNOWING in my country, and autumn was normal and good !
It's usually hot even during winter here, it hasn't snowed it a long time !
You realize that climate change and air pollution are two different things
The climate activists: WE ARE GOING TO DIE
The skeptics: BUT THE MONEY =.="
@UC70lrZki1whrfrSPPvfxg7A its a threat. Now and affects are happening to a lot of areas the longer we wait and not do anything the worse it gets these old fucks dont care because they wont be around when it hits us harder then ever
Animely
âtHe natuRaL riGhTsâ
Animely you must be brain dead to think we dying lol
Animely yup because money is more important than the air we breathe đ€Šââïž
Honestly Iâm scared about my future and the future of the other generations
we are not imortal of course we are going to die some day
Michael: I'm afraid my grandchildren will have to grow up in a socialist country.
Nordic countries: "Laughing in The World Happiness Report".
That's when you have brainwashed that energy CO2 free production and transition is socialism !
"But China" is not an argument.
Scientist with 50+ years in the field: Climate change is real.
Man: Yeah, but if China's not gunna' do anything then why should we?
And they wonder why the rest of the world thinks Americans are idiots.
Jenxao also heâs wrong. China is doing a lot to fight the pollution. You should look up all the green cities that they are creating, and read up on the public transportation that they use (instead of cars)
Alicia en el Pais de las Maravillas Yep. I donât understand why China is blamed for the entirety of the worldâs pollution.
Alicia en el Pais de las Maravillas itâs there favorite
ćżçæš maybe because they make 30% of it
Alicia en el Pais de las Maravillas China and Russia pollute more than the entire western world combined.
When the only argument you can make is âThE CoNsTiTuTiOn
Yeah somebody should have told the guy that our freedoms and liberties won't matter if we're all dead due to the results of climate change.
You forgot about tHeIr lAwN
@@kourush7271 freedom and liberties also wont exist if they impose laws to force you into not doing certain things... So its a no win situation, the only difference is he will be long dead before the earth starts ACTUALLY dying and people are actually dying from it.
Cuz humans are more important than anything else on this planet.
Poor representation of my people đ he wouldâve been one of the Africans that sold his people off for a couple bucks ..
Watching this in 2021 as catastrophic weather is even more common... is a trip.
Climate change is like investing long term. It might not seem that important now and will not show you results now, but in a couple of years the rule of compounding really kicks in and then you realise how important it is.
Skeptics summed up : money > environment + future generations + earth
+ China
Economic Growth increases standards of living. Standards of living improve our lives with convinient products and services.
To make a book you require to cut down a tree. Cutting down a tree is environmentally negative. Ebooks exist online, having a ebook on your device saves millions of trees everyday.
That is pretty much what Skeptics or Economist believe.
@@chronenojysk5107 the device you reed ebooks on has an impact too, the electricity you consume in order to make it work has an impact too. It's not that easy to evaluate which alternative is more environmentally friendly.
+ public safety and health
@@Silviiiii21 Nuclear Powerplant is more environmentally friendly, safer, cheaper and efficient than Solar and wind generators.
"Why should we do something, when China is worse than us"
This mindset is extremely childish and basic. Just because someone else is "worse than us" doesn't grant us the right to completely disregard climate change. As a country the U.S. has many resources and the largest economy. It is our responsibility to do what's in our power to help our world.
When I was younger my parents were always telling me to compare myself to the "best" rather than to the worst or you'll never improve. It's funny how they don't seem to get this basic notion.
In a way we are also partially responsible for China's emissions. We outsource a TON of our cheap production needs to China, and only care when the smog is carried by wind patterns to the West Coast...
Funny how china is doing a lot of investing in renewable energy and they probably produce the most start up companies for electric vehicles. That is because china doesn't have all these regulations that U.S. has when it comes to technology. Plus I love how U.S. complains about China, yet U.S. produce a lot of waste compared to a country that has 5x the population number and is 2nd in global economy. And did people forget, China is producing a lot of waste primarily from factories, factories that make things for U.S. consumers
china is populated with a billion people i'd figure it would be much harder for them to reduce their footprint compared to america with 4x less people
@@nigelgold2 but their population is going to have a big slam down soon because they had that one-child policy going on for years.
This shouldnât be a discussion
Could you do a video on nuclear energy and itâs relation/role in climate change (as a clean vs. dirty form of energy)? Also maybe considering Thorium etc.? Since theyâre shutting down all nuclear plants here in Germany that would be awesome - maybe some other people would be interested in this as well! Thank you for your consideration.
"as a PROFESSIONAL climate scientist, who`s done this for 50YEARS I`M afraid your incorrect "
LOL hahaha pure gangster
YESSSS HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. I FOUND THAT SOOO FUNNY. I had to stop and scroll the comments for someone to say it!
Remember when scientists said smoking was healthy for pregnant women?
@@VG-qu3vb no, but I do remember those paid by the tobacco industry who said it, many of which also claimed to be """scientists and researchers"""
hmm, really reminds me of a more current issue being sadly debated currently đ€
@@xbox_cheeto5338 lol just like now with the energy efficiency businesses
@jay yeah the climate scientist earning 60 - 90 000 a year is the one trying to deceive you, not the multi trillion dollar fossil fuel industry which has known about it's impact on climate for decades
"It's my right to destroy the environment."
That's basically it.
celifacejones exactly đ. Basically everyone who doesnât give a damn about the environment.
Environment != climate.
no legit. good summary.
@@finisadestrerum9852 The climate is TREMENDOUSLY influenced by the environment and vice versa. Change one, the other changes too.
@@finisadestrerum9852 nope, they are intrinsically correlated. Change a dime in the oceanic environment and you change the entire climatic dynamic of the world.
it`s so funny because here in germany we have the exact same arguments: "If only Germany cares about climate change it won`t change anything." Many countries are probably saying: "if we are the only ones that do something it is not gonna work" instead of just doing it.
I am a professional soccer player and I would never take advice on soccer from someone who doesnât play. Baffles me that people will formulate contradictory opinions against people have spent their entire lives studying a specific topic
You actually should listen those who dont play, and study soccer. Those are the best coaches.
âAs a professional climate scientist who has done this for fifty years, Iâm afraid youâre not correctâ
ahhhhaaaaaa
Amelia G I literally laughed so hard when he said that!!
âroastedâ ew.
that's not a roast. look up appeal to authority.
Just because he is giving his credentials doesn't mean he knows what he saying. You shouldn't justify someone's opinion because of their status
Caleb Haight I mean if heâs an earth scientist itâs pretty self explanatory that he knows what heâs talking about đ
As a professional climate scientist who's done this for 50 years, I'm afraid you're not correct. Yessss! You tell her! đŻ
Archana Gopalakrishnan But then she comes back and says âwell I know climate scientists who donât agreeâ like come on women, I know youâre lying
Archana Gopalakrishnan yes
@@ellamasters300 Exactly đđđ
@@ellamasters300 and doesn't back it up with anything. Where is this letter signed by all these environmental scientists? How come an actual scientist who studies this never heard of it? Just comes off as something she heard on Alex Jones..
periodt!! He put her in her place real quick! đđđđ
Do this just with teens. Please. Teens are the most important voices in some of these conversations.
That is what I call a debate each one of them is not shouting over the other (Pier Morgan) but each is allowed to make their point and the other team is allowed to counter the argument if they can.
I want that blonde lady to show us a list of these thousands of "scientists"
Blonde Lady: *surprised Pikachu face*
Jonathan Hwang Lying ass. Sounds just like Trump. If I say it with confidence it must be true đ€Ł
Jonathan Hwang itâs the same list as 99% of scientists agree. Neither exists. Theyâre both full of it.
I think she mixed up the facts. I was looking for this so-called "letter", but the only thing I found was a complete opposite, in which about 3k scientists said that man has an impact on climate change, so....
Jonathan Hwang âthousands of scientistsâ probably translates to one fifty years ago
Boomer privilege is ridiculous. Oh no, you can't water your lawn, give me a break.
Who can afford a lawn anymore lol. We can barely afford an apartment.
Boomers are strange creatures. As millennial, we just need to get rid of front lawns, because obsessing over a small patch of the worlds most boring plant sounds unhealthy.
blazeylikme true smh
@@gettabun hey, we've been accused of ruining straws, napkins, yogurt, and sex. Lawns should be an easy feat. And we get to piss off Boomer neighbors.
There are a few places in Japan that specialize in moss lawns. They produce more oxygen, use less water, and are avascular, so don't grow as high as regular grass. I can't wait to grow my own.
And can you imagine the look on your neighbors face when you move into the neighborhood with your moss patches?
Sometimes it seems like that constitution is a double-edged blade. Cause holy crap there's a lot of people who stick to that with no capability to think a straight thought on their own. It's a constitution! It can be changed!