Palm oil isn't as bad as you think
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- čas přidán 22. 05. 2024
- Few ingredients are as widespread or as notorious as palm oil. But although this crop is a major driver of deforestation, this oil might just be our most sustainable option. So what can we do to make palm oil production more sustainable?
Reporter: Adam Levy
Camera: Adam Levy
Video Editor: Adam Levy & Frederik Willmann
Supervising Editor: Kiyo Dörrer & Joanna Gottschalk
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Read More:
How palm oil production can grow without converting rainforests, peatlands: sustainabilitycommunity.sprin...
Eight things to know about palm oil: www.wwf.org.uk/updates/8-thin...
Palm oil and global warming: www.ucsusa.org/sites/default/...
Global Forest Watch: www.globalforestwatch.org/
Palm oil in cosmetics:
www.treehugger.com/palm-oil-c...
Special thanks for the background interviews:
Rory Padfield, University of Leeds
Patricio Grassini, University of Nebraska-Lincoln
Inke Van Der Sluijs, Roundtable for Sustainable Palmoil
Erik Meijaard, Borneo Futures
Fitrian Ardiansyah, The Sustainable Trade Initiative
Jocelyn Zuckerman, Reporter and author
Adam Tomassi-Russell, PhD Oxford, for chemistry consultation
Chapters:
00:00 Intro
00:41 Why palm oil is popular
03:17 The problems with palm oil
04:42 Palm oil's incredible production
06:24 Certification?
07:09 Watch from the skies
08:12 Palm oil from the lab
08:53 Conclusion
Would you pay more for products containing sustainable palm oil?
🙂 We Are: Yes (for need of food Preparation)
🌍 Planet : No way. Stop Now 😠😡🥺😭
No. I'd rather have an immediate end to palm oil farming.
@@ThePlayerOfGames Did you watch the video?
No.
In a world with perfect oversight this could be more sustainable. However, I highly doubt there would be strict and consistent regulations that I would trust plantation owners to not destroy the forests.
I know this is done in places where there is little opportunity. I doubt a village would agree to burning down forests and breathing in smoke unless there is an economic incentive. I would rather develop opportunity another way. But, I realize that is not an option for most people.
Yes, but I know so many are already struggling to pay their grocery bill as is. Sometimes trying to solve the world's problems feels like a heartbreaking game of Whac-A-Mole.
Palm oil's isn't 'bad' when compared to other types of consumable oil. What is egregious is the fact that DW fails to highlight what lead to palm oil so called 'notorious' reputation. The US and EU are to blame for the smear campaign against palm oil which was orchestrated to protect their soy industry. Which might I add is practicing far worst unsustainable practices when compared to palm oil cultivation. Now, they've come to the realization that they might not be able to eliminate palm oil just yet...and thus this report was commissioned to mark their U-turn on palm oil and its many benefits. Hah! Hypocrites!
Remember the artery clogging oil massive campaign in the 1990s?
Palm oil is NOT healthy. Coconut oil is even worse! Saturated fat consumed regularly in large amounts causes coronary heart disease and ischemic strokes. We've know this for over 50 years from hundreds of studies. Nowadays there are people, including the meat, egg, and dairy industry, trying to muddy the waters about saturated fat by spreading misinformation on CZcams and other web sites.
yeah, its all about business brother.
Just wonder?? How many percent of EUROPEAN or UK, America and Canadian lands are covered in virgin forest or even forest alone. UK and Europe also got a long list of wildlife extinctions because of deforestation and I wonder why??? And yet the western countries got the audacity without shame to lecture other countries about deforestation???
@@jeffreysetapak typical of NATO judgements
To me, this mostly comes down to the fact that we need to eat less processed foods.
Sure, it might be one of the better sources of oil, but if we ate less processed foods then we would need less oil overall.
Obviously we can’t just completely cut out all processed foods because then we’ll have a lot of food waste…but when I’m in the grocery store I regularly see shoppers who’s whole cart is filled with processed junk…
In most cases, buying less procesesd foods dosn't make a difference, since we would still have to process the products by ourselves in order to create the product we want. It dosn't really matter if a product is produced in our homes or in a factory. In fact factories can be more energy- and ressourceefficient then individual production.
@@JanChrissD I’m talking about buying and eating an apple as opposed to an apple pie.
I think it's way much better to just have a 2 child policy worldwide. It would solve a lot of problems like hunger, homelessness, unemployment/underemployment, traffic congestion, pollution, deforestation, global warming, etc.
@@edisontesla3932 no, it would leed to the xollapse of society. Also it would be a human rights violation.
@@SaveMoneySavethePlanet well in that case you are right, but most peoples behaviours aren't chabgable that easylie. Especially in countries where heavylie processed foods have been promoted for generations.
I love how the colonial powers deforested half the rainforest of South East Asia during its occupation. Then suddenly now, it's a problem when they are longer in charge
Wisdom and knowledge grow with time and experience!!!!!
Perhaps we attempt plantations in deserts?
@@mohannair5671 it will be extremely expensive or even impossible and inefficient
@@wrjtung3456 do we leave it to the Chinese?, It sounds like all the factors that justified belt and road projects like gwadar port and Piraeus port or hampanthota port???
Mmhhmm
My professor is doing research in Indonesia about biodiversity and palm oil plantations. Biodiversity can be increased by regenerating forests and at the same time production is increasing.
How? Even if we do not clear-cut 1 more acre for palm oil plantations, are not the acres of palm oil plantation we already have on land that used to be rain forest? How can we increase biodiversity without decreasing the amount of farm land we already have?
Can one "rebuild" hundred thousand years of biodiversity just by "regenerating forest" after all is burned down?
@@moot2046 yes and it can happen very quickly, forests dont need thousands of years to grow. forestry can claim back land very quickly if it is left to grow.
@@wcdeich4 its really quite simple, reduce the amount of mono-culture farming. Varying crops on the land increased biodiversity, improves harvest yield and improves soil quality. The problems are that is costs a lot more and unfortunately money makes the world go round for businesses. But if people change the way they buy, buy sustainably sourced products that money is going to help boost the farmers that have changed their farming from mono-cultured farming.
@@Brurgh Apparently you didn't get it. There are a lot of flora and fauna unknown to human inside the rain forest that evolve for hundred thousands of years. Nature just can't "replenish" those fauna and flora simply with "commercial tree planting".
As google said: palm plantation yield the highest vegetable oil per hectare compared to the other plant-based oil.
If palm oil took 'only' 1 hectare of deforestation to produce 3.3 metric tons, then how many hectare of deforestation it will take to produce the same amount of oil from other crops?
Waaay more,boy
Waaay more
you wouldn't need to deforest, as you can grow other oil plants everywhere else.
@@HCMORGI where?
@@biangkeladi6631 Plains, grassland
@@Moses_VII
Name the locations? If there are any, how many are the proven yields from those NON-palm-tree?
If you look closely at deforestation issues in Malaysia you'll understand the trees that were cut down has nothing to do with the palm oil plantation industry. Deforestation happened because of the high demand for wood production (hardwood), especially for the market in Europe and East Asia (China and Japan). Almost 90% of plantations in Malaysia belong to the listed estate companies. They cannot simply clear the land and turn it into palm oil plantations and risk their RSPO/MSPO accreditation that could affect their whole business.
Correct
The deforestation and environmentally harmful problems regarding palm oil mostly happen in Indonesia
Malaysia just happens to get caught in the cross fire
Blame Indonesia for ruining the reputation of palm oil
That might be on paper but since you seem to be Malaysian you should know that theres a big difference between whats written and what is actually done.
Take a ride from JB all the way up to Penang and check how much natural rain forest and how much palm oil and rubber plantations you see on the way. I am sure you will see mostly plantations and almost no natural forest.
@@CaptainVita Just because you see palm oil estate along the highway doesn't equate to unsustainable deforestation
In fact, it's smarter to develope palm oil estate along the highway, since they had to clear the forest there for the highway infrastructure anyway
No one is saying Malaysia did not cut down any forest for palm oil
The difference is in the way it's done
Malaysia did it in a much more sustainable way, for example by utilizing land already cleared for highways, instead of like Indonesia who is just indiscriminately setting off forest fires to clear whatever land the fire burns
@@hiyukelavie2396 Your arguments are not very strong. Highways don't need that much space. Only a couple of meters on each side. Doesn't justify the huge deforestation. Also talking about sustainability when clearing majority of the rainforest for plantations is not really sustainably. I could have as well said, take a plane from JB to Langkawi. You will see the same from above, away from the highways. Majority of the land is not rain forest but plantations in Malaysia. And the Global Foret Watch Map discussed at the end of the video shows it quite clear. Just in the center around Tmn Negra and the Titiwangsa range is rainforest left. Blaming Indonesia is nice but not if it's only to distract from Malaysia.
@@CaptainVita "Highways only need a couple meters on each side"
Uhm, wrong. So very, very wrong. Look up images of the autobahn in Germany and see what's on either side of them. Do you really think it looked like that in their natural state? No, don't be naive. Large swathes of land were cleared. They then replanted some grass or decorative trees to fill up the empty space. You can't have a freaking jungle teeming with wildlife just a few meters away from a highway. It's a stupidly dangerous hazard. There are codes and regulations for these things. In Malaysia's case, instead of replanting the empty land on both sides of the highway with functionless, decorative trees, they replanted them with oil palm. It's a much more intelligent usage of existing land
Again, no one said that no forest was cleared for oil palm. How do you think cash crops work? Do you think they just magically sprung up in the middle of a pristine forest? You sweet, sweet summer child. Show me any example of industrial crops being grown without any land being cleared. Maybe in this fantasy world in your mind it exists. The point here is HOW land is being cleared. Indonesia, being impatient and greedy, went for the cheapest method available, the slash and burn method. Cheap and quick, but environmentally disastrous
This is the most well balanced news about palm oil that I have ever watched from a western media. Good job on that.
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you know that other form of vegetable oil like soya or sunflowers can be grown in vast available agricultural lands. but for palm it has to be tropical region hence destroying lots of forest. It's just paid propaganda from palm oil companies. Just look at history how cigarette or cheap plastic usage were promoted in 70's.
lol.. try harder mas borr... it is onl bc europe is on sunflower oil crisis so this report is on board
@@skyinuri8868 spot on. Trying to go back on previous propaganda. That being said I do hope we can still preserve our nature and not destroy them like what our colonizers did in the past
Yeah. Balanced by funds
New Zealand dairy farmers import the left over palm kernel(thats what is left over when the oil has been expelled out) to feed to the cows.Its a very good cheap supplement to maintain the health of the cows when grass is in short supply.Its an extra added value that would otherwise be wasted
and feeds into the cycle of envirnmental issues. massive dairy farms, their run offs .... that deserves its own video!
Breed your stinky cows to destroy orang Urtangs
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Greedy farmer
@@manojadikari129 bit rich coming from India. Watch out at the air you breath.
we are making cow foods from palm tree leaves, if interested can google
@@manojadikari129 I'd rather not see rain forests cut down in the first place like anyone else would.But it already has been, and there is the waste product(the palm kernel) that can be used as cow feed so we might as well make good use of it
i wont forget the documentary DW demonizing palm oil and avocado
Dw often contradict itself, I guess it's due to "Latest Research"
@@agebeabelaluma5401 at least you get, that contradicting one selfes isnt always bad
@@agebeabelaluma5401 yes. New evidence will sometimes contradict past ideas. But also depend on who pays and press on the issue because money talks
Well, science and research are evergoing process.
Ikr, typical western media and their hypocrisy. This news channel isn't any different than fox news and all other western based hypocritical news outlet.
In Malaysia, there's also a local certification for palm oil, MSPO. However, the red tapes are lesser when compared to RSPO.
Correct 👍🏻
When even RSPO has not done as much as it has claimed. :(
@@Sivah_Akash I think it's important for the stakeholders of RSPO to improve the standards instead of using other oils to substitute it.
Even if Europe doesn't want it, the sellers here will send it to China or other countries with less stringent requirements.
@@hongkaipun1204 , makes sense.
But it is not like there is shortage of palm oil, right? And there is an unmet demand in those other countries.
So if demand in Europe falls, there will be less sales. Unless my above understanding wrong.
@@Sivah_Akash yeah should be true
I really wish they do a follow up on this. Mahathir was right, this is one of our essential markets. I just wished that people stop demonizing palm oil and focus on making it way more efficient.
Where's the demonization?
@@Vanguardkl basically, take the bad side of the palm farm and exegrate it on (mostly western) media so it look bad.
Correct. Palm oil IS an important industry in Malaysia. Malaysia has been producing palm oil since the 1910s. The palm oil industry in Malaysia is relatively well developed
The deforestation and environmentally harmful problems regarding palm oil mostly happen in Indonesia. Indonesia, being the relative new comer to the palm oil industry, didn't have the patience to develop their palm oil industry properly, and instead employed the quickest and cheapest methods, which is what's causing all the problems the outcries against palm oil is about
The problem is Malaysia gets caught in the cross fire
Blame Indonesia for ruining the reputation of palm oil
Why you blame it, its just your assumsion we know our land have the most no 1 produce palm oil in this world. Its just kasuistic problem there have a many palm oil industry have an sertificate how to made sustainable on the crop palm oil. Just a litle bit oknum made it not use the regulation.. The bad name of palm oil just from west and they wory about we have oil supply in this world. Eurpe also made a most big pollutan in this word and then blame ing our resources. So funy to looks that. U know the Big company in Eu are payuing for making pollutan in this word.
@@Vanguardkl Just wonder?? How many percent of EUROPEAN or UK, America and Canadian lands are covered in virgin forest or even forest alone. UK and Europe also got a long list of wildlife extinctions because of deforestation and I wonder why??? And yet the western countries got the audacity without shame to lecture other countries about deforestation???
Palm oil is the most abundant yield vegetable oil compared to other alternative and mostly being used to produce mostly our daily product. But because us as mankind aren't efficient in consuming the product (expired food, soap, cosmetics, etc), the manufacturer had to increase their production in order to fill those demands and in the process, the plantation company themself had to increase their palm oil yield by opening more plantations with the price of deforestation.
The question is why Palm oil considered as 'Vegetable' oils instead of 'Fruit' oils? after all the oils was extracted from the fruit and more particularly its seeds.
@@rashidisw agreed, unless coconut , grapeseed, olive and all the other tree nut/vine oils are considered vegetable oils...
Just wonder?? How many percent of EUROPEAN or UK, America and Canadian lands are covered in virgin forest or even forest alone. UK and Europe also got a long list of wildlife extinctions because of deforestation and I wonder why??? And yet the western countries got the audacity without shame to lecture other countries about deforestation???
soybean oil and sun oil you are proud of there is a lot of deforestation in the euro, brazil and america. we already hate to send palm oil to the euro again know insulting. nato knows the slander of our palm oil is said to kill orang hutan and cut down trees in the forest. now go die europe we will not send a single drop of our palm oil. we better export our palm oil to india and china
@@jeffreysetapak Their deforestation already happened since thousand years ago in the Middle Ages, that's why they have such abundant farm land thus have really strong agricultural industry that even replacing the once ancient bread-basket like Mesopotamia and Egypt, you're right that reforestation needed to be done in some degree on those land of theirs, but blaming the deeds for thousands of years ago that reshape the Earth landscape and ecosystem is just like blaming the extinction of animal and plant species from the Mesozoic era to the asteroid repeatedly instead just moving on with such change, also like blaming Roman from time to time for the changes they had made from their proto-industrial mining practice in Rio Tinto, Spain, thus useless but still helpful to be known as lesson for future generation, for you and them to not make the same deed again, also as if feudal farming system never being implemented extensively by the ancient regime in lots of Indonesia's feudal state that at the end open up the same rice farm land and wetland by taking lands from nature itself with force without taking very long consideration to the impact caused out of it, even with slash & burn method still prevalent to practice.
Could you make a video on composting? What kind of an effect it would have if the world composted food scraps etc. I know it limits methane and CO2, as well as waste in oceans. Thanks!
Don’t know the exact effect it would have, but it’s definitely a needed thing. I know California is phasing in food waste laws so we all have to start using composting services. And NYC recently enacted food waste laws for restaurants.
Personally, I’m really looking forward to having a semi robust compost infrastructure built up so that people who can’t do it themselves can have access.
Agree!!
Yes! That would be great!
I'd rather see some more research on gasifying food scraps and the potential of bio natural in general.
yeah good idea
I remember my community in Edo state Nigeria called N.I.F.O.R. (Nigerian Institute For Oil Palm Research) supplying Malaysia with seedlings to grow palm tree plantations in the late 70's and early 80's. Those transactions back then has catapulted Malaysia to where it is today regarding palm oil production. Good for them.
Its not easy for us czcams.com/video/nKCUZUthjts/video.html but its not possible to beat colonial master..
As a Malaysian,I would like to thank your country for all they had done in helping our economy to grow to what it had become today.Love from Malaysia🥰🥰🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾
Thanks Nigeria
@@jesusnotgod5635 Bless up to you.
Now we are the second largest palm oil producer and we control the palm oil price
as an Indonesian i'm glad the price of palm oil is skyrocketing here. i'm sick to death watching our fellow countrymen being duped by western funded NGO's to talk sh't about our palm oil industry, perhaps they will PAY MORE RESPECT to palm oil now.
Really need to be mindful of the hidden agenda of these western funded NGO. Don't be over awed by the preaching from these organizations.
Otak gue jd berandai²..jangan² sih kelangkaan migor kemarin itu sebenernya dilakuin oleh pemerintah kita sendiri, akhirnya bisa jadi alesan gak boleh ekspor migor..
Padahal tahu migor bakal dicari di luar gara² krisis pangan..😅😅😅😅😅😅 kaget gue nongol di feed "Why Palm Oil is good" padahal bertahun² sampe siapa tuh aktor hollywood dateng dan menitikkan air mata di helikopter..anjaaaay cringe banget..
Wow what a genius you are Haru. Instead of them critizing you they will now just outprice your country men making it more expensive in your own country. Gg man.
@@xueueux betul banget tumben media ky DW dri Jerman yg notabene anti sawit bahs gnian asli. gw kira ini video sarkasan taunya ngga
@@raditya5663 Butuh soalnya..😅😅😅 policy luar kebiasaan..klo gak butuh, smear campaign tapi kalo butuh dipuji²..kayak bukan pedagang..klo pedagang kan memperlakukan semua org sebagai potensial buyer ataupun seller..
brazilian culture also uses a lot of palm oil, known as dendê in here it was brought by the africans, and is used to flavour and colour a lot of tipical food from the northeast region specially
We gave you palm and you gave us cocoa
@@yaaobenewaah1697 nope cocoa anc coffee already existed in the african continent. species varied from continent to continent. and remember that 50% of the brazilian population is black
@@PHlophe coffee yes, cocoa no
@@PHlophe interesting..
@@yaaobenewaah1697 < < This oil( red palm oil ) is sustainable (because it has a high yield) and withstands high temperatures LIKE coconut , without becoming toxic \ cancerous, like canola, sunflower oil, soy oil, corn oil, olive oil and all other vegetable oils, and healthy unlike all oils mentioned, except for olive, it has many vitamins, natural from and used for thousands of years in Africa, the ancient Egyptians used, and considered it a sacred oil, and by people from the diaspora (such as north and northeast of Brazil), historically, for centuries europeans and descendants try to demonize it, it's all about racism, deculturation, and keeping cheap labor (in africa and south america and asia), it may change the african economy in the future, but today it is more produced in asia, a refined version, which is not healthy like real palm oil, but even better than all the oils mentioned, especially better than canola (this is garbage, sold as healthy by North Americans), and some Asians plant it in the wrong places, but who else buys it are processed foods\industrialized and cosmetics companies, Europeans and North Americans, instead of demonizing them (demonizing companies), white vegans and white environmentalists, Europeans and North Americans demonize palm oil, of course.
As Indonesian i know several thing about palm oil, our goverment already had enough of palm oil issue worldwide, and already start to limit export and dedicated for local consumption, from CP0 to all product from palm tree. before 2045 it will stop all export for crude and half finish product. but don't worry, our government said, still export final product. our government cant shut down those farmer, since there is 4-6 million worker on those farm, not counting manufacture worker that palm oil related.
Di saat perang seperti ini, sepertinya dunia ingin menggoda Indonesia.
( Dating )
It's a stupid decision to stop Palm oil exports as it plays a major role in Getting Forex Reserves
With increasing worldwide demand organising the palm industry to regulate the farms, Modernizing the processing units,and increasing the efficiency must be the concern
Here in India the government is giving subsidies to promote farming oil palm farming to decrease the dependency on Indonesia and Malaysia ,
It's painful how there is a shortage of palm based oil on the country with largest palm oil plantation. Hope the lab grown oil can compete with palm oil in price and we can see those rainforest back
@@houghwhite411 palm tree based oil (palm oil and coconut) cannot be replaced by lab grown oil because producing oil in a lab mean you need to feed the yeast & bacteria with food or energy source which is additional complication compared to a tree that on its own already feed on sunlight (solar energy) and produce oil fruit. (it is an oil, what do you expect? it is a store of energy, preferably solar energy)
@@houghwhite411 lab grown oil with the current gigantic demand would equate industrial swarm all over again
West : Palm oil is bad, we should boycott
Putin invade Ukraine, largest producer of sunflower oil
West : Palm oil is actually good, we shouldn't boycott them
LMAO
Fact: Palm oil is the victim of olive oil lobbyist in Europe , they made bad rep for palm oil yet the fact is the otherway around.
Yes, there are some explanation that olive oil is actually one of the fastest get oxidized,means that one of the worst
1. theres olive oils and olive oils.
2. olive oil does not allow processing, you need to take it raw or semi-cook it, like, once.
3. top quality olive oil comes from top quality olive trees in climate-specific areas.
4. it is hard to obtain and only comes in small quantities.
5. it is by far the best in terms of health benefits and longevity.
so yes, it is very expensive and yes, it is being treated as a luxury, but that's the way it is, it is just way too valuable. no lobbies will ever manage to shift any industry from any sort of oil to olive oil, since that would render any product too expensive.
what lobbyists do, however, is exploit its reputation and sell bad quality olive oil for top grade.
Another fact: Palm oil is NOT healthy. Saturated fat consumed regularly in large amounts causes coronary heart disease and ischemic strokes. We've know this for over 50 years from hundreds of studies. Nowadays there are people, including the meat, egg, and dairy industry, trying to muddy the waters about saturated fat by spreading misinformation on CZcams and other web sites.
And don't forget about their soy oil too. They're boycotting palm oil because they can't plant it on their land.
Just wonder?? How many percent of EUROPEAN or UK, America and Canadian lands are covered in virgin forest or even forest alone. UK and Europe also got a long list of wildlife extinctions because of deforestation and I wonder why??? And yet the western countries got the audacity without shame to lecture other countries about deforestation???
ooh nice! Indonesia has the major leg up in palm oil plantation and I explained too in my video! we really need some certification for the palm oil because it's our best bet of vegetable oil.
Here in Brazil and Colombia, regions of the Amazon devastated by cattle ranching are now being converted into sustainable oil palm plantations.
Is western media didn't boycott and cornering the palm oil industries over there?
@@yazyaz2969 Brazil is one of the environmental red lists
@@PissMenn Correct ... Brazil may be in the list, but they have more forest than the whole Europe or US. The fact is, Europe and US has done more deforestation for agriculture usage than Brazil.
@@mohdhalmymdyusoff5836 Let the west grow more of their own forest. Lecturing other countries about deforestation, the audacity.
See,palm oil fix deforestation
now palm oils price skyrocketing. china & india are main buyer and keep buy more. also we proses it into biofuel for diesel and plane. no need to export to EU. since they blocked palm oil and challenge us in WTO
their loss for acting like masters.
As a Indonesian I appreciate DW team finally I found western media that quite netral about palm oil
Pfftt they did this when Indonesia banned palm oil, previously DW was just like western media in general
9:59 “getting in touch with companies, to find out ...”
There is this idea of millions of consumers educating themselves on where and how something is produced, whether it's fair, sustainable, free of child labor etc. *Pushing that responsibility on consumers is terribly inefficient.* I'd prefer fair labor & sustainability laws and regulative bodies checking them.
Checking the production chain of each and every item is a full time job, not a hobby - and I do have a job already.
Definitely on board that this isn't individuals' responsibility. But I know a lot of people ask what they can personally do, and I wanted to share what experts had said to me on that topic.
We totally hear you, and we agree. It is not the sole onus of the individual to change sustainability indices. We've touched on this in the following video, for example: "Why Big Oil loves to talk about your carbon footprint" czcams.com/video/vqZVCEnY-Us/video.html
But as the above video suggests, if someone personally wants to do something about palm oil in their daily life, then they are free to get in touch with companies (big or small).
The whole oil palm tree can be used efficiently. The you get cooking oil from the fruits. The leaves and tree trunk can be used to feed cattle in feed lots, dont need large acres of grazing land. The leaves can also be used as brooms instead of plastic brooms.
Very useful plant
This is by far the most unbiased journalism piece of work i’ve seen related to the CPO. Good job DW !
there are much more stable size comparisons than "the size of Israel", that one gets a little bigger every year
try use banana as comparison
Hahaha good one
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@@nawan8nawan383 how many Toyota Corolla?
Palm oil is natural and has no bad effect in the body unlike processed plain oil
This article came up since sanctions on Russia. Russia is one of the biggest exporter of Sun Flower Oil and Corn Oil. If Russia stops exporting, then the world will be shortage of cooking oil. Hence the need of Palm Oil.
Malaysia and Indonesia:Here comes money!
lol, wow
Nah.. i never saw those oils in my life.. i doubt they're that relevant
Cooking oil is VERY bad for you.
@@lucasgrey9794 i hate deep fried food, here in Indonesia everything is deep fried even deep fried tofu will be deep fried again.
I feel like there is opportunity to produce palm oil in a sustainable manner. Surely we can implement regenerative agriculture and permaculture principles to this crop! I see it being intercropped with native plants and other food producers, used in a food forest, and combined with grazing animals. Theoretically, we could create highly productive agricultural land that remains largely forested, meaning we sequester carbon, build soil, and produce palm oil
Yes, definitely! Have you seen. our video about permaculture? czcams.com/video/I0rQNYMwzfY/video.html - let us know what you think in the comments section.
Where else have you seen the massive scale of companion planting you suggest? The pistachio orchards of Turkey? No. The almond orchards of California? No. The banana plantations of Ecuador? Nope. What you offer is theoretical noise obfuscating the very real damage of the moment encouraged by unregulated consumption. We’ve known for generations that the lands of North America have been so over farmed by mono crops that much now requires fossil fuel sustained fertilization. As long as our economics allow for 100,000 acres of unbroken corn/palm/whatever, that is what we MUST expect, setting state and personal policy accordingly. I haven’t purchased any palm containing products for years now- and you can do the same… if you choose to.
everything mass produced is not sustainable, they kill the earth
Just wonder?? How many percent of EUROPEAN or UK, America and Canadian lands are covered in virgin forest or even forest alone. UK and Europe also got a long list of wildlife extinctions because of deforestation and I wonder why??? And yet the western countries got the audacity without shame to lecture other countries about deforestation???
@@mavigogun why dont boycott corn/soy as well? Surely those are the worst offenders in terms of mono culture farming goes? The largest palm oil plantation is no where near the scale of corns fields/soy fields in mid US, nor are they so sterile in terms of biodiversity
Here in Brazil, there is a substantial consuption of Palm Oil (dendê) specially in Bahia state. Palm Oil is used in our cuisine and produced almost exclusively by small farmers that supply the domestic market without relying in importations, that being said I've never saw a direct correlation between deforestation and those small palm plantations, the inpact of these palm plantations is minimal in the ecosystem, as they're almost never a monoculture and plantes inside the rainforest/along with other trees. We have far more problems with the soybean production, brazilians use a lot of soybean oil and alone soybean producers account for at least 40% of annual deforestation NATIONWIDE (specially in amazon).
If you fry food with high omega 6 polyunsaturated acids like soybean oil, you create lots of trans fats. It would be healthier to use high heat with palm oil because the saturated bonds are stronger.
Soybean farming land usage are less efficient compare to palm oil.
Palm oil produce more oil whithin same square area
@@PemadamGergasi Red palm oil is healthy and full of vitamins (not the refined one), and it doesn't become toxic or carcinogenic at high temperature, like all European and North American oils. Olive oil is good, to consume without cooking, but not for cooking, good fats \ oils for high temperature: coconut oil, lard, Red palm oil (real palm oil), butter
Do you think soybeans are grown for livestock and it's the beef industry in Brazil causing the most environmental destruction?
Europe and western countries they don't have oil palm to say it's good.
Thanks for a well balanced video about palm oil (there aren’t that many out there). There have been massive efforts in making practices more sustainable. It’s one of the most diverse crops out there (every part of the tree can be used) and it is an essential part of the economy. Large companies actually HAVE to implement sustainable practices because getting a loan from banks requires this now (through the audit process, the plantations are checked quite regularly). There are definitely bad players out there, but there are also lots of good ones who actually are making an effort.
There are also plantations out there who actually grow other food crops between the palm oil trees so that the land is fully utilised.
Another interesting fact is that the “waste” product after extracting the oil from the kernel can be either used as biofuel or be used as fertilizer, just like the rest of the tree at the end of its production life span.
I'd call it horribly biased.
There's room for expansion of palm oil especially in Africa. Increasing productivity per hectare, and ensuring human rights are protected are the main priorities. Not mentioned in this video is that the large palm oil companies are multi billion dollar companies and need to improve on a whole range of sustainability aspects. Overall, good effort
How would palm oil imrpove human rights? Congo produces much of the world's cobalt and how are human rights there?... productivity has nothing to do with human rights. Palm oil is not an essential product and has driven forests to almost complete erradication in Indonesia and also Malaysia...
@@ardeshirmoinian the comment meant that human rights should be one of the areas where palm oil production has to become better, not that palm oil production would help with human rights. Also I dont think he spoke about Kongo, but about east Africa, as that is the region oil palms originated from
@@carlosdumbratzen6332 I see, yes you are right, the comment didn’t actually say palm oil improves human rights. But I still don’t see why palm oil production has to increase. If anything we need protect tropical regions where it grows instead of clearing forests.
@@ardeshirmoinian You know there's still a lot of forest rather than palm oil plantation in Malaysia, right? It's not like there a few acres left.
@@ardeshirmoinian As a Malaysian, palm oil has been a blessed and cursed to us. Being one of the only two global producers, the increasing demand for palm oil is worrying to many of us despite its massive contribution to our economy. We have some of the most beautiful rainforest and when I was a kid, driving back to our grandparents place was such a joy with majestic view of tropical jungle along the way. Now, it just acres and acres of palm plantations to the point that you get disoriented.
There are times where I feel somewhat relief when some countries imposed ban on our palm export for whatever reasons. At least, there are some small spots of our jungle will remained untouched. While palm oil is essential to most of us Asian, but it's not globally an essential commodity. There are still other options that to certain extend far better than palm oil.
Having said that, it is oddly funny to watch DW releasing a content promoting palm oil because as far as I know, EU is a staunch supporter of anti-palm oil. Is it because of the Russia - Ukraine conflicts that has disrupted their sunflower oil supply? This is quite worrying actually because if EU starts to subs sunflower with palm oil, I don't know if we'll still have any jungle left.
ahh yes you guys nailed it. lots of people doesnt know or understand about this kind of multilayered problem and to tackle this problem is very hard and time consuming. banning palm oil isnt a good solution especially both of the countries mentioned are heavily reliant on oil palm industry
Just wonder?? How many percent of EUROPEAN or UK, America and Canadian lands are covered in virgin forest or even forest alone. UK and Europe also got a long list of wildlife extinctions because of deforestation and I wonder why??? And yet the western countries got the audacity without shame to lecture other countries about deforestation???
@@jeffreysetapak stop spamming please
@@rncmv Why don't you also ask another guy that blindly support Europe and even spammed more than I do??
< < This oil( red palm oil ) is sustainable (because it has a high yield) and withstands high temperatures LIKE coconut , without becoming toxic \ cancerous, like canola, sunflower oil, soy oil, corn oil, olive oil and all other vegetable oils, and healthy unlike all oils mentioned, except for olive, it has many vitamins, natural from and used for thousands of years in Africa, the ancient Egyptians used, and considered it a sacred oil, and by people from the diaspora (such as north and northeast of Brazil), historically, for centuries europeans and descendants try to demonize it, it's all about racism, deculturation, and keeping cheap labor (in africa and south america and asia), it may change the african economy in the future, but today it is more produced in asia, a refined version, which is not healthy like real palm oil, but even better than all the oils mentioned, especially better than canola (this is garbage, sold as healthy by North Americans), and some Asians plant it in the wrong places, but who else buys it are processed foods\industrialized and cosmetics companies, Europeans and North Americans, instead of demonizing them (demonizing companies), white vegans and white environmentalists, Europeans and North Americans demonize palm oil, of course.
@@jeffreysetapak Palm oil is being slandered for centuries just like coconut oil, by whites trash, because the poor soil of Europe is not suitable for both, Red palm oil is healthy and full of vitamins (not the refined one), and it doesn't become toxic or carcinogenic at high temperature, like all European and North American oils. Olive oil is good, to consume without cooking, but not for cooking, good fats \ oils for high temperature: coconut oil, lard, Red palm oil (real palm oil), butter. Sunflower oil, corn oil, soybean oil, canola oil , and all other oils from Europe and North America are all bad, toxic and carcinogenic, which is why Europeans, Australia and North America have the highest rates of cancer.
I would always pay for more with products that have sustainable palm oil and I agree with others; a more effective strategy is to just avoid the processed food that it's within. While certifications have challenges, they're important to move towards reflecting the actual true cost when we include environmental and social impacts. Thanks for making this video!
Not everyone can afford it. Take into account of a country PPP And GDP per capita.
Just wonder?? How many percent of EUROPEAN or UK, America and Canadian lands are covered in virgin forest or even forest alone. UK and Europe also got a long list of wildlife extinctions because of deforestation and I wonder why??? And yet the western countries got the audacity without shame to lecture other countries about deforestation???
@@jeffreysetapak You sound pretty upset about this. I'm not sure who you see specifically shaming / lecturing.....I live in a Western country and I can happily say there are MANY citizens here deeply worried about deforestation in our own country and fighting to make sure it doesn't continue as it's not a sustainable practice in any country!
@@sustainablelivingschool12 and yet many european big companies like michellin group are investing heavily in Indonesia palm oil industry. Such a hypocrite
@@sustainablelivingschool12 < < This oil( red palm oil ) is sustainable (because it has a high yield) and withstands high temperatures LIKE coconut , without becoming toxic \ cancerous, like canola, sunflower oil, soy oil, corn oil, olive oil and all other vegetable oils, and healthy unlike all oils mentioned, except for olive, it has many vitamins, natural from and used for thousands of years in Africa, the ancient Egyptians used, and considered it a sacred oil, and by people from the diaspora (such as north and northeast of Brazil), historically, for centuries europeans and descendants try to demonize it, it's all about racism, deculturation, and keeping cheap labor (in africa and south america and asia), it may change the african economy in the future, but today it is more produced in asia, a refined version, which is not healthy like real palm oil, but even better than all the oils mentioned, especially better than canola (this is garbage, sold as healthy by North Americans), and some Asians plant it in the wrong places, but who else buys it are processed foods\industrialized and cosmetics companies, Europeans and North Americans, instead of demonizing them (demonizing companies), white vegans and white environmentalists, Europeans and North Americans demonize palm oil, of course.
i wish you touched more on the cost side of sustainability. particularly with the monitoring aspect, it might demonise farmers (who are often selling on to the multi-national corporations for very low prices and don't have much say in how they can get paid,) when the way that these big companies are driving down production prices is what they're facing, even though the more long term practices discussed can answer to the productivity challenge. the thing about the big companies is that they expect the consumer wouldn't want to pay more (and why should we - because fair incomes should be part of their production costs, not our shopping baskets,) and try to do the bare minimum to claim 'sustainability' - especially with certification schemes that they rely on too heavily to do the work, and don't compliment with initiatives to support farmers so that they don't have to deforest as a means to put food on the table. for many of us, the way we see oversees food production is very narrow, and we see it as a problem of big corporations and their employees destroying the environment, but we need to see it more as a faceless corporation which rips off small holder farmers and relatively powerless businesses, driving down prices.
The west logic are awkward, they cause the damaged to ozone and climate changed and now blaming others. Similar to the garbage problem, European and American (especially American) created the most rubbish them brand themselves to be environmental protector to recycle those garbage but actually they export it to China then blame China for the pollution, when China stop importing their rubbish they blame China and shifted to South East Asia and then blame SEA for the pollution. They blame everyone else but never look into the mirror. Produce your own products and discard your own products back home, might get some respect
@@kongming2005 i agree 100% - there's also the added history of large scale agriculture *literally* coming from slavery and colonialism in a lot of cases, particularly in latin america and africa. it's crazy that those big companies that were getting rich and being genuinely unethical/unsustainable back then are still IN the buisness, (tate and lyle; the united fruit company etc...) but in the absence of good legislation, can effectively set their own environmental and ethical standards and like you said, the blame gets placed on other people who actually are not at all, in scalable terms, to blame for the current climate situation :/
Holy crap!! Just got to the end and I KNEW that voice sounded familiar! Congrats on a new gig Adam! DW, obviously added a great voice/mind to their team!
haha I've been discovered! 🙈
Great video but you failed to mention that oil palm monocultures breed plant diseases that regularly wipe out plantations.
We usually try put all the information into a 10 min video as best we can, but thank you for your comment! :)
In paddy fields, they grow rice for thousands of years, year in year out, mostly twice a year. Not monoculture?
well, EVERY monoculture breeds diseases and largescale infestations. Since palm oil is a tree, i guess there isn't an easy fix for it, in contrast to annual plants that can benefits from shifting crops.
It's also a reason why palm oil plantations are so dangerous for the workers and the environment --> extensive use of pesticides! to keep the trees alive
no issue with that, the new technologies on seeds had made robust anti genoderma for such diseases, we are worried about the same thing but no issues for replants flr the next 50 years!
We should not just think about how we produce palm oil, but also what we use it for. Currently, two thirds (TWO THIRDS!) of the palm oil imported into the EU is used for bio fuels, which bottom line is worse in terms of greenhouse gas emissions than fossil fuels
I am glad some people look at the situation from a different light. Not a single thing in the world is black and white, everything is a shade of each.
In Norway, a few years ago, there was a "aware campaign" about parabens in makeup... and it was so successful, that makeup in Norway does not contain parabens anymore...
The silly thing is parabens are naturally in some food, and also used in other food. For instance, there is a lot of parabens in "mackerel in tomato sauce" which is a breakfast spread, which is very popular in Norway, especially for children. One slice of bread with mackerel will give you the same amount of parabens you would get if you bathe in makeup.
As the conclusion touches upon. It's not the product itself that is the problem, the issue is with how it's grown.
Palm oil is a problem if you eat the stuff... fine as biofuel tho...
Um outro motivo legal é a recuperação de áreas degradadas e abandonadas desestimulando o crescimento do desflorestamento. Ocorre muito na região amazônica, região fundamental para a América do Sul e do Mundo também.
I use virgin palmoil from Ghana in my food making. The fat is good for you!! I just love using this oil in my curries! No frying though...
As a malaysian, it is time we should ask for a special price from the unfriendly country who smear palm oil
Not just price bro .. if EU or US want buy from Malaysia they have to buy with our rules not rubbish like RSPO or force us to obey they rule or law which many create for protect they oil industri not people interest..
The information provided in this video is very well researched. Not many western media can stay unbiased on this topic.
He forgot to mention that palm oil also recyclable
Do we recover it from human faeces or something?
@@ThePlayerOfGames ever heard abt biodiesel??
@@ThePlayerOfGames you can recycle used palm oil for biodiesel and it's quite profitable for F&B business. And i used to sell it for 100 usd per 30 liters if i remember correctly.
@@ThePlayerOfGames haha needed a moment to think about this
@@advancedprototype1081 the incredibly damaging fuel that put several South American nations into near or actual famine requiring international aid and thus creating a sort of international moratorium on the production of the stuff?
And what's the use of biodiesel (all diesel is biodiesel) when we need to ban fossil vehicles from today anyway?
Don't you get "used" oil when you fry with it? Pretty sure we wholly use the palm oil which means you don't get "used" palm oil.
I thought I recognized the voice and the painted finger nails! What a surprise to see you here too, or maybe I wasn't as observant. Great content, looking forward to see more about sustainability.
I'm curious what algae oils would taste like and the possibility of using it to replace palm oil.
Huh. Someone else knows algae cooking oils here.
@@serinahighcomasi2248 I wouldn't say I know anything about it, I was just curious.
@@dire67 There _was_ a company producing algae cooking oil, Thrive. By all accounts, it was pretty good, with a very high smoke point and amount/level of good fats.
Unfortunately they discontinued sales a few years back for whatever reason.
That being said…a Singaporean research group has, very recently, successfully done the same in creating their own cooking-use algae oil.
@@serinahighcomasi2248 very interesting.
Can't wait climate activists backlash
The "how" is always the deciding factor. Palm oil isn't bad, it depends on HOW you produce it and HOW you use it. Meat isn't bad, it depends on HOW you raise it and HOW much you consume. Cars aren't bad, it depends on HOW you use it. [...]
All these issues need to get tackled from several directions. Palm oil is in so many processed foods that noone really needs. It's not in there, because it's good, but because it's cheap. So people simply have to stop eating that many processed foods. Most of them are bad anyway.
Besides that, all those issues would be WAY less dramatic, if we wouldn't waste that many ressources. Already the fact that we (first world countries) waste around 30% of our overall food is just insane.
Overpopulation is also a thing we have to get under control. At least in certain countries.
On the point of overpopulation: You do know that the countries without population growth and "less land" consume the most resources by far? Overpopulation is a myth created by the rich north to blame the poor south for the problems.
On the point of meat: Meat is always bad, an animal always has to suffer for its production. The more sustainable the production of the meat, the higher the suffering (giving them less space and killing them even younger).
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Meat is always bad because of the climate impact. Explosion motor cars also are bad if we're collectively poisoning the whole planet and ourselves.
Also, palm oil IS the reason those processed foods are unhealthy! Palmitic acid is by far the unhealthiest fatty acid.
Combine that with corn syrup that's in almost all of them too and you get a sure health destroying bomb.
@@Ewr42 unhealthiest? do you prefer transfat or rancid oil of unsaturated fat
Just wonder?? How many percent of EUROPEAN or UK, America and Canadian lands are covered in virgin forest or even forest alone. UK and Europe also got a long list of wildlife extinctions because of deforestation and I wonder why??? And yet the western countries got the audacity without shame to lecture other countries about deforestation???
While rapeseed surely doesn't produce as much oil, keep in mind that it grows in the vast cold lands of Canada etc.
It also isn't as picky with soil types, making it far more sustainable imho.
But just like what the video mentioned, rapeseed is not as saturated as palm oil, making it spoil much more easily and therefore a bad substitute for palm oil when it comes to that.
Cool. So lets destroy canadian forest now??
@@gandaruvu it is about using available land to produce it. the big north has plenty yet still forces the big south to produce rapeseed . rapeseed being a replacement doesn't factor in the equation AT ALL.
@@harukrentz435 Canada already has vast areas of farmland, and probably very little of its forests would be suitable to convert to fields.
Sure, just convert those cities into rapeseed farms. And then when you complain about the oil's ineffeciency and prices, don't go back to palm oil. Suck it up.
I respect that it's plant based, highly productive and highly shelf stable! It's like chocolate or packaging made of decompostable corn and sugar plastic.
Good for hearts & Alzheimer too
You should tell us more about why is it that the soy industry is much more unsustainable when you compared with the palm oil industry. That is something that is rarely, if ever, mentioned in the western media.
Indonesia: *has 62% of the world’s palm oil*
USA: “INDONESIA NEEDS FREEDOM!”
Usa ! NO! THAT'S NOT THAT OIL YOU ARE THINKING ABOUT!
Biofuel? No need drilling anymore...
How am I supposed to live a human life which is eco-friendly 😅 I'm honestly tired of finding out every day that I am effecting whole planet by my so called "need"
If you cared enough you would buy land in the forest and live like a caveman, but lets be honest no one cares that much. The fact of the matter is that consumers have been put (and somewhat have put themselves) in a corner where they either consume products that damage the planet e.g plastics, palm oil etc. OR they use the alternative which is nothing.
@@CommunistBot I agree that it is ultimately up to the government to regulate things (i.e the entire reason it exists), but most governments are completely useless at doing their job, not to mention people affect the government and the government affects the people. There are 3 factors at play: government, society and companies. They all affect each other in a cyclical nature, which is why its so hard to step in and make a big change, because the finger pointing keeps going round. But like you mention, it is up to the government and regulations
It really is rough. I personally watch these videos in an effort to educate myself so I can vote for the right things. Hopefully we can steadily setup an infrastructure which makes it easier for us to be eco friendly than not.
It’s totally possible, but we’ve spent 70 years being profit obsessed so it’s going to take a bit to unlearn all those habits.
Pls don't feel disheartened, @@nade5557. While it is a lot of information, we are in this together. We've covered a topic about how Big Oil companies love to talk about your carbon footprint - because our individual responsibility is incredibly complex. Take a look at the video here: czcams.com/video/vqZVCEnY-Us/video.html - let us know your thoughts in the comment section.
@@DWPlanetA I just watched it, excellent video on the topic
Indonesia and Malaysia when palm oil price get high be like 😁💰
What is the point of having RSPO when at least 30% of palm oil is actually converted to biodiesel thanks of EU and palm oil production countries subsidies ?
That means high production of palm oil doesn't reduce the price, because mostly goes to subsidies biodiesel industry.
We definitely need to move past bio fuels as soon as possible.
Maybe they’ll stick around in niche circumstances, but we need to electrify as much stuff as possible.
At least 30% of palm oil is coverted to biodiesel? No, not true. Not even 5%. Reasons? Edible oil is more expensive and hence more profitable. EU has banned the use of palm oil in making biodiesel.
Good.. saving lives.. keep palm oil out of food please!!
@@Liboch From EU own paper, it is 45%. While other country including Indonesia, has subsidies biodiesel policy such as B30, B60, B100. Bear in mind that, EU only phase out biodiesel from palm oil on 2030.
@@moot2046 Indonesia produces about 50 million metric of palm oil annually of which 9 million tonnes is used for making biodiesel to meet the 30% mix. Malaysia is another major producer but doesn't have such requirement, so are all other producers. Europe uses about 3 million tonnes of palm oil for biofuel in 2021. Apologies, my mistake, actually it is about 15% of the global palm oil is used for biodiesel, not less than 5% I initially thought. Thank you for pointing it out.
4:59 Rapeseed can't grow at hot humid rainforest. These two cannot be compared with land use efficiency.
Cope
@@Daniel-gs9eh lmao
The "lush and fertile" image of the tropics seems to distract from the fact that the overwhelming majority of the world's agriculture happens in temperate regions, as these regions are where agricultural plants tend to thrive in (as the first domesticated plants were from the Mesoamerica, Mediterranean, and East Asia regions). Tropics tend to support agriculture for plants like the oil palm but for stuff like canola, wheat, cotton, and olives you have the lowest soil productivity of any region on earth.
And oil palms cant grow in the north so rapeseed is common here. People will grow whatever is the most profitable crop or whatever they can grow to survive.
Rapeseed, soy, corn, etc are seasonal crops, you got to plough every year, disturbing the soil and use lots of pesticides. Oil palm is a perennial crop, it is economical up to 30 years before you replant it and less susceptible to pests. And it uses hardly any pesticides.
I think I can hear "What I Learned" collapsing in a Japanese metro somewhere.
underrated comment haha
Fun fact. Many people dont even know it or the fruit it comes from 😂
Palm oil is being slandered for centuries just like coconut oil, by whites trash, because the poor soil of Europe is not suitable for both, Red palm oil is healthy and full of vitamins (not the refined one), and it doesn't become toxic or carcinogenic at high temperature, like all European and North American oils. Olive oil is good, to consume without cooking, but not for cooking, good fats \ oils for high temperature: coconut oil, lard, Red palm oil (real palm oil), butter. Sunflower oil, corn oil, soybean oil, canola oil , and all other oils from Europe and North America are all bad, toxic and carcinogenic, which is why Europeans, Australia and North America have the highest rates of cancer.
now EU begging malaysia and indonesia for farm oil. because sunflower oil crisis
Recently came up a new technique where in farmers are planting palm trees in rainforests under their cover. Like using 30% land for palm trees without completely cutting down all trees.
Do you have any more information on this?
@@DWPlanetA
There is a documentary on Discovery Channel named- the Earth short price(1st episode). There you will find more information.
What I understand is in the islands of borneo, farmers are cultivating palm trees in harmony of other trees, natural habitat. Eventually naming the oil produced from such trees as "deforestation free oil". There are chain of supermarkets who has collaborated with those indigenous farmers who sell them such type of oil.
Have a look.
@@lightyearahead i would like to see it also, but i can't seem to find it, can you provide me the link to the video?
It's ridiculously obvious what is missing in this equation: there is a high demand of palm oil because there is a high demand of ultra-processed foods and cosmetics. The only possible solution to deforestation for palm oil is to make better food choices and get better legislation regarding food production and distribution. Because you wouldn't consume much palm oil if most of your diet consisted of fresh, smaller scale, local-grown food. This isn't a special problem of this one particular crop, this is a problem with our current food production system, from wheat, to soy, to almonds, fish and red meat... bad food practices are causing ecological desasters all around the world.
A local market can only support so much people in a locale, tho. Think about how many farmlands/fish ponds/grazing land would be required to serve a megacity like NY or London
nowadays in Indonesia, the worst deforestation is not caused by palm oil plantation instead by mining activity
Which cooking oil is healthier palm oil or coconut oil ?
Good video but I think that if we use our current technologies and invest more in research and development they production can go up by a long shot and I think that deforestation for meat production is way worse in pollution and long term side affects
Indonesian rainforests store more carbon per square meter than any other rainforest. So no it is not as bad as deforestation in the amazon for meat production. Morally though, I tend to agree with you on this front
@@arevolvingdoor3836 in the long term, meat production is worse for the environment because it is so energy inneficient and polluting
@@VinegarPotato that is true if they are farming cows, if they are farming chickens or pigs, then it is less true.
I mean, deforestation in general is something that we need to seriously pull back on. I feel like comparing palm oil vs cattle farming is like asking if you’d rather be kicked or punched in the face.
One might be slightly better but they’re both bad.
@@SaveMoneySavethePlanet 😂
Good infos,there are pros and cons about palm oils.Without demands there be no supplies,but palm oils will become an alternative products.Deforestation can be avoided if the Government strictly monitoring it's plantations activity.
All out,Malaysia.
It's our time.
Is it beneficial for the growth of children, especially height?
My uncle who live in Kalimantan (Borneo) life depends on palm oil, he is really rich by Indonesian standards now
Stop using vegetable oil for fuel (reusing filtered, old, cooking oil is okay, but not new oil). Electric cars will dominate in the future
The only biofuel worth considering (for the niche applications that batteries yet ain't viable for) is"biogas"(since it's made only from biological waste, like food leftovers and animal manure anyway and doesn't require any extra land area).
Biogas is also known as renewable methane, unlike natural gas (fossil methane). In the future when batteries are so good that we no longer need biogas we can still continue capture it, but instead of using it we can put it back into the ground where we took all that natural gas from before and by that way using it as a carbon capture method way more efficient than planting trees.
Suddenly palm oil bcome savior bcoz of Putin 😂😂
Did you account for the fact that palm oils only produce fruits after 3 years?
And did you get the denominator right for the calculation of the production per area?
It is really difficult to assess the productivity of different plants (canola, sunflower ...). But they are actually about the same, if we account for these factors i have learned.
And for the next 25-30years
They are not the same, the fact that palm oil has been successful in fulfilling all industries' demands around the world proves that it is the most productive crop compared to others.
Thanks for balance video. Anyhow every country need resources to move on. For malaysia and Indonesia this is the main source of income. Atleast they plant back the trees that have been cut. Unlike what happen in Brazil, deforestation but leave the land empty, even you can see from Google map most of the land are empty.
Indonesia only fault is they just cut down the rainforest in last 10-20 years, where we have many watchDOG here and there to bark and howl. While other country cutdown their trees for oil plants hundred years ago, when there was no NGO nor DOGwatch even exist!
The other fact is, only tropical countries have the rainforests. Imagine if western states had that forest too, i bet they would cutdown every of them to make palm oil!
Another Indonesian farmers fault is they using slash and burn method. This method cause uproar from other countries in the region that make air pollution such as haze
@@husainihussin8756 Are you and other people willing to buy higher price to palm oil product or its derivatives? If you said yes, the farmers you mentioned would like to pick much more environmental friendly approachs :)
Too bad, your answer is 'No'....
They were once the most poluting countries in the industrial revolution era, and then outsource the industry to poorer countries for better life quality and cheaper labor cost. Im baffled how citizens of those countries have the nerve to talk down to developing countries.
@@nationalistliberal1320 Well, only several ppl can and brave enough to think this thought!
European : we should banning palm oil bcoz it's source of deforestation 😈😈😈😈😈
Actually it's to save our business industry 😆😆😆
Amazing they made this after Indonesia export restriction of palm oil
Not only it's a good oil, I have been using it for 70 years every day from the time I was a child. It has also provided gainful employment for millions of people in south east Asia.
Did palm oil pay for this advertisement?
Rspo, while a step in the right direction, is not enough to solve the problems surrounding palm oil production. Slavery and child labour are still problems and the rspo does not do much about it. I don’t think there is an easy solution to palm oil, and it would require attention from world governments if palm oil continues to dominate production, similarly to electronics production in east Asia.
Child labour? Whut?
Child labour and slavery? Have you seen them?
Do you even know what you're talking about? How could a child even eligible to productively work in such place even if forced? What kind of human right stupidity is this?
@@primahariady8286 This Gaming Simply HEMTAM & 🤣ProVokeS with Ayat Child LabouR & Slavery😆..He or She NEVER even Entered a Palm Oil Plantation. The Palm Oil TreeS Are GiANTS PlantationS, its BrancheS & LeaveS are HuGE & Heavy. The FruitS are DAMN HEAVY. Only those with SkillS and PhySically FIT CAN only Choke DoWN The Palm FRUITS..
And these CAN Only BE DONE by IndoneSian WorkERS, be it in IndoneSia or MalaySia. M'Sian Young MalayS & ChineSe Cant Afford to Work in the PlantationS. Its Always the 'IndoneSian WorkerS' (Imported) to Work in the M'Sia Palm Oil Industry.
They've been saying that saturated fats are bad for decades and then they're defending high saturated fat palm oil? lol
As a west african us and our ancestors been using it to cook Forever, make soaps and lotion also produce alcohol from the same tree
Glad to know you like it
I dont know what is 'labour abuses' in palm oil industry.
as far as I know, big plantation companies usually provide house, water and electricity to workers. since the plantation usually in remote area, the workers usually come to town for shopping once a month or once 2months. some provide school to workers children
for individual plantation owner, they also provide house, water and electricity (solar or diesel). Our indonesian workers can get around USD700-900/month depend on production. They only work 7days +7days. That USD700-900 way higher than average salary in indonesia. The average civil servant salary in indonesia less than USD500.
We paid for the medical we also paid for the vaccine!
Heres the thing the western countries cant compete with the labour wages hence why they used words like "labour abuses" and "slavery". a $600 month salary in Indonesia can get you comfy life, while that kind of money can make you barely survived for a week in Germany or USA.
Just wonder?? How many percent of EUROPEAN or UK, America and Canadian lands are covered in virgin forest or even forest alone. UK and Europe also got a long list of wildlife extinctions because of deforestation and I wonder why??? And yet the western countries got the audacity without shame to lecture other countries about deforestation???
how many wild carnivores in europe forest?
@@harukrentz435 Do you want to see the list of wildlife extinctions in Europe for the past 200 years??
Thank you. At last, i see balance report on palm oil and very interesting video
Good now india has started to domestically produce palm oil…it shud also focus on rice bran oil and cotton seed oil which is in abundance in India
We as human being must stop all those low productive crops like rapeseed, olive, corn, focus on high efficiency palm oil. Hence we spend less land for higher oil volume to cater world population and oil demand.
I watched a video recently about a process developed by a German university to extract oil out of old bread. It seemed to be actually quite effective for producing fresh oil for baking and other purposes. If we would reuse more old oils on a larger scale it could probably reduce the demand for fresh palm oil drastically
Bear in mind that, collecting all these "old breads" and send to processing plant need A LOT OF fuel input.
This video already warn about "fossil hydrogen". So what is the point of making a "fossil bread oil extraction".
If you don't mind eating processed oils in general, then sure, go ahead! Also the processing cost (energy!) was rightly pointed out. But do you want to eat that? Oil is not like water, where you can just clean it and reuse it. It undergoes chemical changes under all those steps of processing which causes a lot of oxidation and forms molecules that are hazardous to health. I wouldn't want to eat it. Just because something CAN be done, doesn't mean it's a good way to spend time and energy... after all you could probably make "sustainable candles out of earwax", but you're probably better off milking olives for oil. 😂
I don't think that oil is safe to eat, you can process them as fuel tho.
Lol how much bread does it need to make 1 liter oil?
When a white guy talking it's like farting 😁😁
You missed out on the usefulness of the oil palm tree fonts and trunks which are used for many products from car seats to sanitary napkins.
Hopefully conservation practices can be implemented over time or incentive programs for leaving patches or strips of native vegetation to help increase biodiversity on current plantations.
Media barat slalu tunjuk video bruk psal myk sawit. Banjir tempat lain,edit letak dlm ni. Myk sawit xrosak hutan pon,lpas hbs jangka hyat buat penanaman semula.dari dlu lg aku tgk media brat buat video burukkan palm oil.
I wonder how western countries grow their crops without any deforestation. Can someone explain it to me?
they ask harry potter to provide them food lol
they kept orang utan inside their bedroom
indonesian government already researching on turning palm oil into fuel talking about renewable oil source palm oil is the answer although the side effect of endangering the environment are terrible but that's a small price to pay for progress
Palm oil is so great, we hope in future technology will increase their output and preventing it from more deforestation
Relative to other sources of vegetable oil, palm oil is by far the better way to go. Being a tree crop, it does not require that the soil be tilled every season resulting in rapid soil degradation. Secondary ground cover vegetation can be grown between the palms to feed goats and sheep. Calling it deforestation is inaccurate since the palm trees make forests all by themselves. Monoculture, destruction of natural habitats and displacement of native plants and animals are all valid criticism that applies to all modern agriculture. A lot of the fuss about the problems with palm oil is totally unwarranted.
More destructive practices include deforestation for grazing, or growing annual crops that degrade the soil and require intensive use of chemical fertilization and weed control chemicals - and these are happening in more places and in larger acreages.
well, compared to the natural tropical forests, the rainforests, palm oil exploitations are just one species. and rainforests are the most biodiverse places in the world. it's like saying that it's fine to drive local diverse fauna away from a territory because the pigs are also animals and they also form part of the biosphere
@@macizogalaicoin term of biodiversity oil palm plantation is surely no comparison to the natural rainfores but compared to plantation of other crops, oil palm plantation is better. And oil palm is normally replanted after about 25-30 years, not seasonal like other crop.
@DW Planet A Isn't your comparison or rather your conclusion of the comparison of oil yield a bit faulty/incomplete, considering that rape seed etc can be grown in areas where the ecosystem is not so endangered and therefore the yield area does not matter as much?
But it is a good video with vital information that need to be considered. Thank you.
As of now, i will still try to reduce my consumption of products with palm oil. Maybe it would be better for the climate to give back the existing plantations to mother nature and rainforests and reduce our exaggerated consumption to spare our environment.
You still gotta cut down trees to plant rapeseed oil though...
Yeah I thought about this too, there's also sunflower oil right and that doesn't have to be made in tropical areas, so it would cause less deforestation to rainforests
@@someyetiwithinternetaccess1253 they are growing en mass in Germany on existing fields.
It might be true, yes. To meet growing demand in oil and other farmed products, more fields must be yielded. But that's the point, isn't it: a square meter of german connifer forest has less impact on the climate than one sq m of rainforest.
That does not mean that the comparison of yield ratios is irrelevant. But when saying "palm oil" is not as bad, this point should also be considered instead of implied to the intelligence of the viewer.
There are so many reports, saying something is absolutely bad for environment, climate or health, immediately followed by reports saying, it's all fine, it's not as bad as implied before, no it is better!
It makes it difficult to trust such reports, articles and videos, which is unfair to the journalists and scientists.
Rainforest will still be chopped down, if not for oil palm, it would be for cattle farming, soy, corn, rubber, coconut or any other crops. Look at the rainforest in the Amazon, not for oil palm at all. Should we drink less milk, eat less beef?
Land reclamation allows for some palm tree types as soil salinity adaptive but also halophytes and so all such plants produce various types of edible oils (and sometimes biofuels). This means that desert-sand based _"unstable ground"_ land reclamation _(like that which was initially tried at Dubai, "The World", etc.)_ can be used successfully at a coastal area because the intention is not to build buildings on it when it is an agricultire project _(so there is not so great a need for the sea sand to be used for that particular project location of a plantation)._
Saturated and other such fats -(depending for example on say the esters you are after)_ are ok for consumption by some people who have good exercise and a generally healthy diet. So land reclaimed off the coast of the (Texas etc.) Gulf in USA _(and also the West coast side of USA to Mexico border)_ can create such cash crops _(not just the Arab world, although they could do it too)_ and as it is by the sea, the usage of desalinated or irrigated water is not too high as the plants/organisms do not grow in a way that requires it all that much.
Soil salinity adaptive tolerant palms are an example of research showing transcription factors and hormone metabolism can differ between some such plants so as to have them grow in places that are not required to be the rainforest in this video. Palm Oil trees (from plant to plant) may differ in their expression of miRNAs and target genes for soil salinity adaptive stresses. Drought resitant palm oil plants have differences in hormone regulation and metabolism and ABC transporters _(and research can be done to better make those plants for growing)._ So palm oil can be grown elsewhere in the world such as land reclamation near deserts.
Land can be reclaimed using excess rock/sand and regolith from a new fats railway running along the "Trump Border Wall" Mexico to USA border _(so the border-wall is a safety measure and helps ecology of animals and plants by means of the train and its occassional hospital train-carriages for a mix of private healthcare and some philanthropy healthcare by means of vouchers)._ So for example staff of the railway and the land reclamation farming might have a healthcare private voucher scheme package in their job.
People from Mexico sometimes marry into the USA to start a family living in USA via the usual state proceedure of immigration and so that is an example of how both Mexicans and USA Americans in the USA would benefit from such a system.
Also, perhaps some land-reclamation collaboration between Mexico and the USA might occur (if appropriate for the geology, etc.) for a small farm of halophyte, sandelwood, mangrove or palm _(salinity adaptive, including hybrid and genetically modified for antibiotic research, etc.)._ It is all cash crop and humic material is a biproduct sent to the desert inland where water desalination water is used in farming or aquaponics. Deserts are turned green that way _(via humic material added and sometimes greenhouses)_ and can grow tobacco and chocolate/coffee _(plus other caffeine plants too)_ and some palm types and other organisms mentioned in this comment. USA coould definitely make attempts like this to grow more chocolate and palm oil (and other palms) and it would help them to do so.
Growing alternative lipids and fats in these ways I have described reduces the demand on palm-oil grown and so the palm oil remaining that is grown in that area shown in the video can exist but with less demand and with good ecology.
My comment has no hate in it and I do no harm. I am not appalled or afraid, boasting or envying or complaining... Just saying. Psalms23: Giving thanks and praise to the Lord and peace and love.
The Palm oil tree only grows in a narrow latitude band of 10 degrees N / S but they don't take this into account while calculating the difference in productivity Vs other oils. How much unforested vacant land is available in this band?
If UE ban palm oil from Indonesia, then we dont need RSPO anymore, we can do whatever we want, just export CPO to china and india.
here in Indonesia some of our governor are literally putting people in a cage (they worked with the police to evade law) to keep them from running when they are not working on palm oil plantation
Considering that palm oil is often used to substitute animal fat in cooking, this video really helps to put into perspective any arguments against cattle.