How to make traffic better, not worse
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- čas přidán 6. 05. 2024
- India is home to 22 of the 30 most polluted cities in the world - largely because their streets are jam-packed with vehicles. And the car market is still growing significantly. Let's turn back the clock to understand how Indian cities ended up full of cars, and meet the people working to find a way to unclog them.
Reporter: Aditi Rajagopal
Camera: Saravanakumar, Aravind Mohanraj
Video editor: David Jacobi
Supervising editors: Kiyo Dörrer, Joanna Gottschalk & Malte Rohwer-Kahlmann
We're destroying our environment at an alarming rate. But it doesn't need to be this way. Our channel explores the shift towards an eco-friendly world - and challenges our ideas about what dealing with climate change means. We look at the big and the small: What we can do and how the system needs to change. Every Friday we'll take a truly global look at how to get us out of this mess.
#PlanetA #Traffic #SustainableTransport
Read more:
Leapfrogging past the urban highway: www.itdp.org/2021/04/02/leapf...
COP26 transport declaration: a missed opportunity for India: www.orfonline.org/expert-spea...
TERI: The best way to predict the future is to create it: www.teriin.org/sites/default/...
Special thanks for background interviews:
V Manjula, IAS, Directorate of Urban Land Transport, Karataka
Karthik Ganeshan, CEEW
Promit Mookherjee, ORF Online
Mr Muralidhar Rao
Additional footage courtesy: Imago
00:00 Intro
01:00 How it got so bad
03:35 More roads, less traffic?
05:55 Windshield bias
06:32 Cars bring problems
07:55 Unclogging the streets
10:03 Transit-oriented development
12:09 Conclusion
What's the traffic like where you live? And what is your city doing about it?
In kenya the situation has been worse for a while what the government is doing is building more flyover roads which is a good thing but in my view it wont help much with the traffic flow coz every day cars are being bought motobikes and tuktuk are increasing daily not unless rural to urban migiration is reduced by building industries in the rural area to curb urbanization.
Traffic jams are costing our economy €500 million each year.
My city is implementing a project that would see the bike become the most comfortable way of travelling short distances (with public transport taking over for the longer distances)
bad.. well during certain times of the day (Ireland btw)
Horrible. Nothing.
Main routes for cars, bikes, pedestrians and public transit.
Amsterdam: maps.amsterdam.nl/plushoofdnetten/?LANG=en
Explainer: czcams.com/video/c1l75QqRR48/video.html
And why is it mentioned so often in this video that going by bike is for the poor? I am Dutch and I live in Stockholm, both in Sweden and in the Netherlands, everyone is sometimes using a bike, sometimes taking a train and sometimes taking a car. Few people are 'car'-people or 'bike'-people, most people just want to get from A to B as quickly as possible, so let's make walking an biking pleasant in Bangalore! The Netherlands had very bad bike infrastructure in the 60s and 70s, with almost no people cycling. So it's not a historical fact that the Dutch have always bikes! In only 15 years a democratic country can be transformed into a biking- and walking-friendly country and in 30-40 it can be turned into a bike paradise. And its great for people in cars as well, since it will put an end to congestion. czcams.com/video/WeZoUQqGJyA/video.html
It is really heartbreaking that the engineers in the 90s brought back roadmaps of the US, probably the worst role model for traffic in the world.
I concur!
Not really unexpected though. Everyone aspired to be more like the US
Yea, considering that many US highways were purposefully build to destroy and devide existing neighborhoods. Major bruh moment.
@@thunderb00m That is because they are not here! GM, big oil and other corporations that made money on cars took over 25 different trolley / rail systems in the US and promptly shut them down giving us this mess today.
@@WhiteThunder121 I guess not every American idea is the greatest thing since sliced bread.
As a dutch person that loves making videos about transport infrastructure, I am stunned by how much traffic there is! It's good to see you argue in favor of public transport
What about the money funding the infrastructure? It should come from ethical sources like donations, not by theft with threat of punishment and even lethal enforcement if you defend your property.
Its so weird that developing countries like India are copying America instead of the Netherlands. America is doing terribly with pollution, congested roads and traffic deaths. Not to mention that people are obese because they drive everywhere instead of walking or riding a bike.
@@eromod If you are against taxes, you will end up being ruled by medieval style warlords. Since without taxes you can't support a modern army to protect you. Those warlords will do far worse than lock you up or take your money.
@UCQxfx9cifj-uAR-1CQ9CwFQ I don't know how moral all of my neighbors are. But how about people further away who have no moral values ? They can just come over and conquer the area. Enslave and kill whoever they want. Its only a few days travel by car from North Africa or Russia.
Do you think that they care about you having the moral high ground ?
@@eromod taxes are supposed to fund stufd like infrastructure which is a PUBLIC facility EVERYONE uses. A governing body like a municality/province/government is there to ensure the quality of the road(as a Dutch im very proud of that and i want more). Donations would lead to either abuse by private owners (buying up the rights and take control and force medieval toll system) or lack of donations would ruin the planning and/or maintenance of the road. Especially when u design an interconnected network of different modes of transport. Also infrastrucute has to be subsidized as generally its NEVER PROFITABLE, meaning inconsistent donations would couls also lead to neglected infrastructure
I'm so glad that this issue is being raised in india of all places. India really needs to wake up and not blindly follow the American way of suburban development which so many Indians aspire.
Agreed. Diet is another area not to follow us. Indians have such amazing vegetarian cuisine, but I hear more and more people want hamburgers and whatnot.
In reality, we Americans need to be learning how to make delicious vegetarian food from India!
As an indian are you aware of government investment in metros, railways, RRTS? Just search about this in CZcams. It's that easy.
Taxes should be voluntarily opted in, in the first place.
Agreed.
anybody here watch not just bikes ?
An interesting channel about all things infrastructure is "Not Just Bikes" who looks for a large part at the infrastructure difference in North-America and the Netherlands, and why the Dutch way makes for more happiness and liveability
Seconded. Not Just Bikes is a great channel for learning how traffic in a city could be vs what it is.
I absolutely love his channel. I’m so often driving down my street and feel like I can understand why it doesn’t work correctly and what needs to be changed in order to make it a better place to just live!
Big fan of NJB
Also "Adam something" urban planning videos really interesting. "Not just bikes" comments there from time to time
@@JassonCordones I’ve definitely heard NJB mention Adam Something but I haven’t watched any of his videos yet. Time to get around to it I guess!
I'm from Idaho, but I lived in India for 2 years. I pray that India doesn't make the terrible road design choices that we have back here in the states. I'd hate the see the amazing cities built in India go to waste with exclusively car-centered infrastructure.
I'm from California and 100% agree. The way things are built here make it unpleasant and unsafe to get much of anywhere except with a car. The few people I know who commuted to work by bike were all hit by cars.
ya thats why india has 11 metro and and more coming every new year also fast transit like suburban trains and rrts so we dont end up like usa
Indian cities can quickly turn this around, just as long as suburbs don't become a thing.
They are making prominent old streets to walkable non car paths and improving public transportation but mostly in Metropolitan cities
@Soumya Sarkar yep . a few small steps are steps atleast
Suburbs are not a problem. Every city has them. The problem is sprawling American-style suburbs!
Ideally, cities should be designed so that everything you need is within walking distance--work, shopping, recreation... After that, diversifying and using public transit--trains and buses, self-driving cars, easy and affordable car rentals, etc help the most people stay autonomous
That's why I consider Abu Dhabi to be the best city in the world ! Everything in Abu Dhabi is within walking distance ! ❤️❤️❤️
Yeah, we Humans should probably start over.
India needs to make more and more proper side walks/footpath. There are literally no sidewalks for people, which makes them to walk on the roads/roadsides and that further shrinks the drivable area on roads for vehicles.
It is assumed in India that only poor people needs to walk and do not deserve a concrete side walk.
Not having sidewalks is also one of the reason for pollution in indian cities. No side walk means only dust/sand/mud on the roadsides, which contributes to thicken the air pollution. If there will be sidewalks/curbsides on the roadsides there will be no or less dust.
I wish I could explain it to city palnners.
The reason for not making footpaths in the cities is because there is just no space left for them and even if there is space there might be a few streches of footpath. The situation is pathetic. They have made the road itself is a big achievement cause most of them are of low quality and with potholes. There is no budget for marking, forget about footpaths.
@@jitendraparmar353 NRI ke videshi solutions 🤦🏻♂️
Ppl start driving on footpaths too. We need strict regulation along with wider footpath & bike lanes
Footpaths are best place for street vendors 😂😂😂😂
Absolutely correct....the problem is the best engineers of India leave the country and settle abroad developing those nations.... It's the tier 2, tier 3 and lower engineers that are stuck in India making these poor infrastructural designs
Big roads can't fix traffic
Separate lane for busses
Speed lane, mid lane,
slow lane with good vehicle
We love to use metro
Busses if the separate lane is provided
If anything additional lanes makes matters worse and roads tend to be more expensive to build as opposed to rails
@Prajwal Devanga Same in some parts of Delhi😂😂
@Prajwal Devanga that's why in the bus lane the flow of traffic should be reverse .
I lived in Bangalore from 2008-2011 and traffic was already a nightmare back then. I can only imagine how terrible it is now. Unrelated to the topic, but while living there, many of those flyovers you show in this video were being built and I was appalled by the way workers were treated. They were literally building flyovers and paving roads with their bare hands, with not a single PPE in sight (well, construction engineers had ppe but that's about it). Really sad how nobody really cares about the poorest segments of society.
Yea that’s pretty terrible. Similar to how so much of the fashion industry uses manufacturing sites with appalling conditions.
Taxes should still be voluntary.
Things are getting worldclass specially in the central or state approved projects these days. They are all regularly monitored and rules are being followed. But the local project like roads infront of your house still have lots of problems. Even though things are better in local projects also but still not world class. For example, a road is being built near my house. It's first lane started getting damaged even though it is being built just 15 days back and the next lane is not even finished where as another road project ( central approved ) near my resident is world class.
@paper plane yeah appalled is the word. And it still is when I think about it. I didn't mention slippers coz, unfortunately, the ones I've seen were barefoot. And no, I won't 'go talk to Qatar' because this is not a competition. It's not some sort of Olympics to see which country has the worst score in the human rights department.
There is no excuse for the poor treatment of workers anywhere in the world, but I'm specifically talking about Bangalore because I lived there and saw what I saw.
Besides, the very fact that they 'frequently go on strikes' is pretty much indicative of precisely that: poor working conditions.
There are great people living in Bangalore, the food is amazing, some wonderful spots to visit. But that doesn't mean the city is perfect. No city is perfect, but since this video is about Bangalore... we have to talk about Bangalore, not Qatar :)
@@saberlivre That is normal there,nobody cares,u can gauge by the comments itself.
I agree with everything said, except that Bogotá is by no means an example of good public transport infrastructure. It's a city with a population of 8 million people which depends entirely on a outdated bus network. Complains about extensive delays, thefts, sexual abuse and overcrowded stations and buses are heard everyday on the news. Transmilenio could've improved transport ages ago when it was first implemented but by now Bogotá really needs a metro system, it's been on plans for decades but the corruption has impeded its development. On the other hand the government has invested heavily on building bike lanes throughout the city and they have been really appretiated, but the insecurity issues on the city afraids most citizens to use them.
Medellín woud've been a better example on good public transportation infrastructure on Colombia.
Bogota's Transmilenio is the basis for Jakarta's Busway. The then gov named Sutiyoso sent delegations to Colombia to study the concept back in 2003.
I think Transmillenio is a good bus system, the problem is that it’s just has outgrown its purpose.
@@justsamoo3480 Exactly because it has worked in other smaller colombian cities
Cómo tal no es que esté mal el sistema de Bogotá, lo que pasa es que el Transmilenio debió haber construido primero un metro ya que los buses se atoran también con el tráfico, y el sistema no es malo por como está construído es Malo por el servicio que tiene, mucha gente no lo utiliza por miedo, entonces como no lo utilizan hay menos recursos y como hay menos recursos menos se invierte y mientrasrnos se invierta peor es el servicio, depronto si logran mejorar la seguridad y hacen bien el metro el sistema podría mejorar muchísimo y la gente lo empezaría a usar más, cómo el de Medellin
Isn't Medellin full of dangerous drug cartels ???
THANK YOU FOR CREATING THIS VIDEO!!!!! I am an urban planner in Bedford, United Kingdom, and even with our town being slightly less car dominated such as the places you have shown in India, their still able to benefit from this awesome video you had made.
Thank you! Don't forget to hit the subscribe button, we have new videos coming out every Friday!
@@DWPlanetA Definitely will!!
6:35 - Cars bring problems - is a great argument why electric cars are not a solution at all - they are private goods that simply clutter up public spaces.
Yup, simply replacing all current cars with electric ones would be horrible.
That being said, there are certain people who will always need a car. So I’d like to see public transportation solutions which work for 80% of us citizens. And I don’t have a problem with the remainder still having cars as long as they’re electric.
Personally, my goal is to become a 1 car family by 2030 and then see where we go from there.
Windshield bias is for sure the real deal. I went car free for 12 years and had to buy a car this year for a job. After a week I felt different and I had to check myself
I can't believe how much information you managed to pack into a 13 minute video. I really enjoy these Planet A pieces, the mix of narration and expert interviews, while showing the problems in such a visual way. I think this one is the best one I've seen so far. I love the concluding statement, absolutely think the developing countries should not try to become like the global north and repeat all those mistakes, but become something better, leapfrog, and flip the script on the colonizers.
Stunning job on this video.
Absolutely. Lots of information. Must be eye opener for government
Giving everyone 2 tons of steel was a big mistake and reason why traffic will never disappear. U.s needs good public transportation system that desentivizes cars
EVERY CITY needs good public transportation and development that disincentivizes cars
traffic is simply a matter of demand exceeding supply. I live in a small city of 30k people where everyone drives, and it is extremely rare for traffic to slow to stop and go. moving away from cars is a matter of efficiency of cost and climate, but the congestion argument is unconvincing for the significant portion of drivers who don't get stuck in traffic.
@@yanDeriction thats the difference, small rural towns can get away with driving and congestion but in bigger cities that's far from the case plus towns can grow anytime you know
@@ricechido1089 Overcrowded cities are the problem, not cars.
@@Distress.
Overcrowded isn’t a issue, if anything far from issue.
Cars will and always be a issue in city planning and will never be sustainable.
Mass transit systems is how you stop traffic. Build world class mass transit with rail as the backbone. India should be a rail/hyperloops centric nation!!
Yes to metro transit but please no hyperloops. Normal high speed rail would be a better choice.
hyperloops are a scam
other than that, yes
A strong metro rail system with last mile connectivity options for the citizens with likes of dedicated bus lanes, cycle tracks and more pedestrian friendly streets is the need of the hour in dense Indian cities. Congestion tax for cars and heavy charges for private vehicles at Public parking lots would disencourage and decongest the roads to a large extent.
Also, a paradigm shift in the planning policies is a necessity with more of mixed use, mixed income, mixed age group, etc developments and all basic amenities within respective sectors be provided, along with blanket rental/ Property value in a city so people could live at a place closer to their workplace. This might help people's dependence on private vehicles drop.
Have Indian cities gotten into the scooter rental apps? I think they’re potential game changers for “the last mile problem” personally.
@@SaveMoneySavethePlanet ya let's clog up the streets with scooters. We need to change the built environment so walking and cycling is feasible. We shouldn't bridge the gap by the means of autos scooters nd what not
@@anantpathak2899 that’s not what I’m talking about. I’m talking about the little motorized standing scooters that Bird, Lime, and other companies have deployed in many cities over here in the US. They’re often used on bike infrastructure as well because people feel safer there.
The idea is that you have an app on your phone so when you find one parked anywhere you can scan it and take it where you need to go. At night, people go out and grab them to charge in their apartments, and then redeploy them in the morning in designated “hubs”.
There are some companies doing this with small e bikes and conventional bicycles as well. We have the same issue with needing to “change the built environment” here so this doesn’t solve that…it’s more about solving the “last mile” problem where people refuse to take public transportation because they’ll still end up waking at the end.
@@SaveMoneySavethePlanet It has been implemented at certain metro stations in different cities on a pilot basis with cycles and e-scooters, but has not attracted much people like it was expected to. May be with increasing fuel costs people might rethink on this options.
@@anandkumarj7338 bummer. All those clips of her walking through those treacherous conditions makes me wonder if adding sidewalks and bike lanes would help increase interest.
I know around here I sometimes ride on the sidewalk simply because the street doesn’t feel safe with the cars going way faster than me.
Seoul South Korea has been using cell phone tracking patterns to best accommodate the availability of buses at night in their system. Maybe Mumbi and New Dehli can combine ideas from Bogata, Seoul, and Denmark to find the best combination of ideas to make things work. Don't repeat our mistakes.
Interesting, this is the first I heard about it. Might have to look for some more info
what is umbi?
@@riderchallenge4250 mumbai🤔
India is following Japan not seoul Or white country.
I'm glad to see that folks in India are noticing this problem sooner rather than later. and I pray y'all don't make the same urban planning mistakes as America did in the last century tearing down millions of homes, religious buildings, and business to make space for vehicles. This was a great video
"set in motion when planners in the 1990s brought back roadmaps" ... see this is where it all went wrong. The US has the worst infrastructure for anything but cars.
It’s really sad to see the effect my country had on the world and it’s emissions just by promoting cars and such car centric lifestyles :-(
Thank you for sharing this informative insight into India's journey with the car and how we need to rethink the impacts outside of just traffic; like loss of community and happiness.
Los Angeles is actually the American city currently investing the most in their public transportation infrastructure. There’s many projects in the works which have me excited so that I can get to my destination without having to use a car. In fact, my goal is to become a one car household by 2030!
I really think that America needs to set an example and lead the way on issues like this. We’re a big reason why so many countries like India are screwed up so we need to make up for that.
There’s been countless studies that show busses, bike lanes, subways, and train can transport WAY more people per minute than a highway.
well, many countries in europe like the Netherlands are already a good example how to move back from a car centric city to public transport and many walkable/bike ridable areas woth living there. However, the netherlands were nether that extreme in being car centric as the USA, so a change there could definetly be a good example in how to do the transformation. But to do that, a lot of stuff has to be changed in the US beginning by the zoning policy and ending at the mindset of many people
@@TMtheScratcher yup exactly. Part of my point is also the attitude in general. We’ve gone and built a lot of countries up by saying “look at how great western life is. Don’t you want to be like that?” And this is spoken to greatly in this video.
So if we change what “western life” is depicted as then we can help change that social motivation at the same time!
It's a great thing that they are doing multiple transit projects all at once. I hope they'll be able to finish them though before the 2028 Olympics, because, to be honest, six years is way more than enough to finish them all.
Also, it's just sad that there are no direct lines serving SoFi.
@@ianhomerpura8937 if I remember correctly, one of the lines is being extended to directly service SoFi Stadium.
I do think it’s a darn shame though that we didn’t push the completion dates up on that project so that it was available for the super bowl.
Regardless, I agree with you. If we really push then having this stuff running by the Olympics isn’t impossible. I just hope the NIMBY’s aren’t too effective….they’re already getting all up in arms about a subway going under Bel Aire despite the fact that it won’t even have a stop there…
Dubai has a 2030 plan!
Thank you so much for the humane and respectful reporting which is a shift from the typical condescending reporting style followed by western outlets when they are talking about India. Special thanks to this reporter, Ms. Aditi for not joining that club of Indian expats who love to condescend India in their reports to make themselves look good.
Oh wow thank you so much :)
@@aditirajagopal Wow. My best wishes to your career. 😊
@@aditirajagopal hi Aditi, lovely presentation, very informative, nice feedbacks in the comments section too
Cheers from Arunachal 👍
The car has become a symbol of the Indian people's status.😔
Jakarta starts to build pedestrian more friendly after Asian Games 2018 was held! I hope another city does it too
Hopefully they’re not shy about getting studies done and reported on so the other cities hear about the advantages
masih sedikit banget untuk ukuran jakarta
Moga makin bagus jakarta dan semakin human centric
Dan kota lain mengikuti
@@naufalramadhan6818 ya walaupun baru Jakarta Pusat dan Selatan aja seperti Thamrin, Sudirman dan Kuningan tapi daerah lain juga menyusul kok seperti Jalan Pemuda di Jakarta Timur juga udah nyaman
I don't know if I've just been in too many echo chambers, but I absolutely love how much critique our car-centric model has been getting. It's something I never even thought about until this last year but it's such an important conversation.
Hopefully, India manages to avoid most of the damage we did in the west. It seems like a lot of damage has already been done, turn around before it is too late!
Do you know how many metros are there in india or how many metros are getting built?
The traffic in Bangalore was crazy whilst I was there. Despite this, still loved going to MG road.
Very informative doc covering most of the things that affect human nature
India is a great example for this topic because it is at a point right now where it still can avoid the mistakes western countries made. Lets hope they use this chance and build a great country.
I had a choice to buy a car and park it near my house. Instead i hired a rickshaw driver on trip basis for every day. Not only it helped him in covid but also has reduced my commute stress. When calculated i realised I pay even as car EMI monthly but then I'm supporting a family as well.
Lovely :)
If u say your colleagues or friends that u took rickshaw to reach them they see u as poor 😂😂😂 that's a problem
@@Rahulshahrpsthe time has come to shut your ears to these people
5:34 aaah, glad you covered how hard it is to walk in poorly developed places.
the main reason i liked chandigarh was that it was walking - friendly. walking there was soooooo pleasant.
i dont like to go in market in my hometown as it's just plain hassle.
I am glad the Delhi govt is investing on Reshaping roads to be more cyclist and pedestrians friendly than Cars. Hope we will find a solution to his soon.
Yes my city has beautiful cycle tracks but they are actually obsolete.Doesn't know who built it delhi or Central govt. or MCD.
Personally, I've always maintained that if the public transport network, pedestrian and bicycle facilities were even modestly good, then I'd happily get rid of the car and use these modes. It's a healthier way!
Great video. If I lived in India, I would probably advocate “not repeating every mistake the West has made, and on a much larger scale”. As you said, you could be smarter and leapfrog ahead of us.
One important lesson (in my opinion) is the economy of car-oriented transport: if a city focuses on car-centric infra in its suburbs and bulldozes highways through its city center, it will make its area more expensive to maintain, and economically less productive (per square meter). I.e. a net loss that will keep growing. See the channel Strong Towns.
That's a very nice summary of the problems with car oriented traffic not only for 'developing' countries but also the 'developed' world!
I've visited Bengaluru two years ago and I was really struck by the traffic. Otherwise I really enjoyed the city as being so filled with life and greenery. The metro system I think is a big step in the right direction. It was really modern, frequent and easy to use, except for the bag scanning which I found odd.
The busses in Bengaluru also were nice although I sometimes had problems with busses missing arabic numbers.
Taxation is theft.
@@eromod What's that to do with my comment?
@@florianschlosser1100 All the implied things. For example: how would the metro be built?
Should we encourage "developing countries" to continue the behavior that led to that style of development?
@@eromod First, that wasn't my point. Second, putting your thesis in such a short provocative statement is just trolling. In german we have the word Gesprächskultur and your comment lacks it completely.
@@florianschlosser1100 Even if it wasn't your main point. The video and you both implied that the current way of achieving the goal was good enough to not even mention, when that's not true.
A challenge to embrace public transport is the end to end connectivity. Sure, I could take a metro to my workplace, but I would face the following challenges:
1) I have no direct bus connection to the metro station. I do not want to be at the mercy of the rickshaw drivers, but I do not have sufficient and affordable parking solutions near the metro station even for a two wheeler. So how do I reach the metro station?
2) The same challenges are faced getting down the metro station to reach my workplace. In this case, I do not even have a choice of my personal two wheeler like in the first point.
3) Walking on public roads is always a risk. It is not only the vehicles on the road taking an aggressive stance against you, but the lack of a proper walking lane means you have to be extra careful to not land yourself in a storm water drain. This is a nightmare especially at night where there is no appropriate lighting.
3) Public transport ends up being costlier than managing with your own transport, and also requires longer travel times.
Mumbai and Kolkata suburbs has a pretty efficient public transportation system compared to other cities, despite being so densely populated.
I travel to the railway station by bike which has a safe parking space, take the local train to city centre and then switch to metro to reach my workplace
It's a hassle but it also allows me to save rent & car cost.
@@spilltea4241 how much time you take to reach office?
No one blames you for not taking transit. We have a saying "Climate issues are to be solved by the affluent ones". There are even germans who can't afford not to drive (I know one).
A much needed piece of work that hopefully nudges us in the right direction
Hello Aditi,
Thank you, for such an in-depth video! Hope the political leadership takes any notice. Please, make more such informative videos. Power to you!
I don’t know about the political landscape in India, but I’m getting WAY more active over here in India. I now email my reps every month about reducing plastic and fossil fuel usage and have a handful of things that I call about occaisionally too.
Actually, you just reminded me that I’m supposed to call my governor today about our Solar Policy!
But yea, hopefully us putting more pressure on these things helps us FORCE the political landscape to change!
Giving deep insights and bring relevant research to limelight ,great journalism DW
Sadly, this video is ahead of time for Indian audiance.
Kudos to you presenter and researcher!
A city in India: Chandigarh is designed by french architect in 1960s. Separate lanes for cyclists and pedestrians along with main highway is one of the most futuristic thing that was done.
Also. Just watched a video about the Tokyo commuter solution. They have one main hub and 9 or 10 mini hubs all around the city that interconnect. I think their solution is amazing for rapidly expanding cities like Mumbi.
I'm happy to see that there are many ways India is skipping the car centric model and going towards walk, bike and public transport friendly approaches. I'm a big advocate for anti-car and pro-train/public transport/walking/biking advocate. Not only are car centric societies worse for the environment, they are also not nearly as sustainable economically and socially. Not Just Bikes has a great series explaining that in his "stong towns" series. I HIGHLY advice people to watch that and other youtube urbanist channels.
Please India, do not make the same mistake a lot of "the West" has (even as someone living there, I hate that term. Sounds so condescending towards "non-West" countries. It the "civilized nations" all over again).
I love how many other Not Just Bikes fans are in these comments!
very great video! A lot of work was put into getting all the shots, and they do a great ob of showing the perspective of the things talked about. the content itself seems very solid to. Amazing
Very well done. Thank you. I live in New York City where traffic is also insane. The city's department of transportation is addressing it, but not fast enough.
At least there are subway services there.
Thanks for the comprehensive analysis of the topic. The policy and decision makers should watch this and as you said learn from the mistakes of the "developed" nations and make our development and progress really meaningful and fruitful !
DW Planet A, You guys are killing it! What an excellent segment. Thank you! :)
Yea they quickly became one of my top three channels on YT!
Wow ,this is honestly the best video I’ve seen aimed on introducing people to these ideas about traffic and development. Coming from someone who’s spent hours on the subject
This is so insightful. We need more videos like these that talk about sustainable solutions rather than just sweep issues under the carpet by making content only for fun.
I think one reason people prefer car is the control that they get over the travel and the comfort and the choice. So I think similar alternative can be provided, by carpooling for comfort, then for control they can book ola,Uber. And for less people, use of bikes which take less space and are efficient.
Carpooling is definitely an amazing step which can be taken right away by many people. Little bit less convenient but significantly better for the environment.
Not the final solution at all, but sometimes baby steps are all we can do.
Then when will i flaunt that i have bigger better costlier car than you 😂😂😂
1 billion parking spots alone would fill up a square 130km on each side.
Amazing video. Seen a lot of videos on urban transportation, but never seen something with so many insights, looking into the problem deeply from all angles.
top tier videos (of this type, taht I've seen on youtube anyway)
*You should have included discussion on separate Lanes for four wheelers & two- three wheelers which will definitely ease out traffic woes*
One missing point: People move to housing complexes, with their amenities, including in India, because much of the traditional residential areas of central cities are unattractive. So while being able to go to the barber or neighborhood supermarket is convenient, there is also the lack of sidewalks and public spaces for leisure activities, the trash, the dangerous traffic, etcetera.
It's extremely difficult to find a decent road fringed with trees to take a short walk on. And other things like community gatherings are unthinkable.
I am happy that they brought up the public transport and the mindset of people here that having cars and those who don't have one wanting to buy one. The windshield effect that has caused many problems in society. I always tell people around me the importance of public transport and why not to use cars but they just say" well if we stop using them it won't make so much difference, so why we go through trouble. " I think we need to educate people more about changing their view towards transportation and thier effect to environment.
I love that you're covering traffic problems outside the U.S. This is my American bias speaking but I watch a lot of American-centric design problems like through City Beautiful or Wendover and seeing how India is now going through the carcentric design is very interesting.
Advertising to use public transport systems and not to use personal transport is a great step....
But we don't have a proper public transport system in India and everyone is buying up cars....
And I'm a car guy so I really don't like a prospect of not having a car....
Every public transport system in India is crowded af and we can never stay put in peace in that...
Personal transport though frustrating in traffic is much less stressful than a very crowded bus...
Unless we come up with an adequate and big public transport project, I don't see anyone avoiding using cars in India....
Especially the Elites and the middle class....
There’s always going to be some people who need a car for various reasons. To me, the idea is to provide such a strong public transportation backbone that 80% of citizens don’t need a car.
This video did an amazing job of depicting the current issues with her trying to walk various places.
A complete separation of the planning system (which include transit and housing) from politics so they can act separate from what ever current political party thinks we need and actually develop these industries and other forms of transit. This I think could work in the UK
I'm from New Delhi and I've experienced the same issue of traffic on the streets in my neighborhood for quite a long time. Also, I've noticed the neighborhoods which are well connected to the bus or the metro systems in Delhi have lower number of cars.
The pain area is absolutely the pedestrian pathways which are not completely build, faulty or encroached which makes roads unsafe for walking or cycling. In order to solve this problem a proper standardisation of the walkable pathway should be introduced and can be implemented all across the country for every type of streets in our country's cities. It is the people's demand that can drive for a change and for our sustainable future India as a whole should look into this looming problem which needs to be solved.
As someone who loves cars and would call themselves an enthusiast, I hate that local city governments are focusing on car-centric cities. I love cars no doubt, but having to constantly use it to go 5 mins from my house makes it a wasteful process of having to start my car, reaching the main road, and finally dreading the fact that I have to find parking close to where I want to go. Of course I'm not asking the city to just throw cars to side but rather give other forms of transport more importance. Instead of imitating American infrastructure from the 90s, we have to look at newer cities which are focusing on their most important crowd, people.
Love her videos! Fantastic content, attitude, style and discussion. I'll be honest I love the Indian accent and nothing wrong with a pleasant voice I enjoy listening to 🙂
Using public transport & two wheelers mostly bicycle can reduce traffic congestion.
Yup.
As someone from Indonesia, I agree when she mentioned Jakarta as one of the cities with traffic problems. In fact, our capital is literally known for that. When the pandemic started, though, there were less cars and hence, less traffic on the road that it felt almost magical to see a usually high-traffic city suddenly have little amount of cars on the road due to COVID-19. Other than that, though, we're also making quite the development by building MRTs in Jakarta, although I think the infrastructure is still lacking because it's still too car-centric, and although there are public buses, there's little to no bike lanes in Jakarta, except in Central Jakarta, where the city center is.
Finally some content about indian cities !!!! Great video guys
Happy you enjoyed watching this video! Feel free to check out this one on India's water pollution problem: czcams.com/video/kaHmxZhea3M/video.html
Most of the traffic solutions come from the citizen who demands and uses transportations. If citizen preferred bicycle, government will create Bicycle infrastructures. If citizens demands public transportations, government will make more public transportations. That's why we should discourage all form of cars both fossil fuel and electric. The SUV trend right now makes traffic even worst than the past and degrades roads so fast that it is costly and unfair for the part of tax payers who don't drive on SUV.
There is no such a thing called urban planning in India, which is very unfortunate.
Having a background in sustainability and policy making I can say this piece is well researched. Consulting level work. Great job 👍
As a Bangalorean, i feel represented! Thank you.
Problem with bangalore id pure corruption, I have seen malls prop up at locations, where there is no roads, public transport is very bad...
While China's economic boom was accompanied by an orderly layout of urban planning, India on the other hand just grew out into a mess.
Hmmm...are you a chinese? Things happen slowly in India due to its democratic structure. Any legal objection from an individual could delay the infrastructure project, amd govt. could not do much about it.
China is an autocracy. People who don't listen, are get 🔫
"Democrazy"
As a transport planner & researcher, I approve all the points made in this video. As shown by the examples of French car weight taxation and Danish cycle infrastructure investment (or to give another example, Singapore's huge car registration fee), you usually need more than small nudges to significantly change behaviour (some people seem to think behavioural nudges are the answer...)
It's really important to make bike lanes and walking lanes on the side of the road so that congestion is less on the road, and city centre did a great job with no vehicle roads, that model should be adopted in more and more cities in India and the world ❤️
I hope my life will a little better after purple metro line . Waiting for it
Maybe Indian city planners need to watch channels like ‘Not Just Bikes!’.
I feel like the NJB channel should just be turned into a high school or college class at this point haha! Such great info for everyone.
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Hey DW. Nice work.
Am from kerala and there is a huge debate and issue here regarding the Krail construction. It would be nice to see a detailed review of the possibilities, impossibilities of such a project. And its implications on the nature and economy whether positive or negative.
And also why the roads and railways are not upgraded scientifically.
I hope you take note of this comment and look into it.
Such a video is absolutely necessary in kerala in such a time.
Basically, developing countries go through the same cycle of expanding car usage as a symbol of wealth and later noticing that real wealth means not having to own a car but getting everywhere comfortably and safely by foot, bicycle, or public transportation.
Now I understand why my colleagues from Bangalore (WIPRO) called Amsterdam one big park. They were amazed a city could be that quite and they didn’t have to commute for two hours one way.
I do hope that India will quickly realize that public transport and cycling are the best solution. I personally have no car anymore for two years now. Most trips are done with public transport, than walking and cycling and a few times a month I use my subscription for a ‘shared’ car service. In the Netherlands many new build suburbs and city areas don’t offer street parking to their residents. There is a central garage where there are different types of cars and even busses they can take if they need it.
Sometimes they pay a subscription per month, but In one development in Utrecht the subscription came with the property. (Not yet sure if this is just for a few years, because in the end the cars require maintenance and replacement) We just don’t have the materials, energy and space to give everyone a car. And the impact on both climate change and the air quality is huge!
Going all electric is also not an option if we have billions of cars needing expensive battery packs with materials that are limited. And the energy required is hard to come by. In the end I feel we need to embrace the advantages of NOT owning a car, but having many options. I love the fact I can choose the best mode of transport for each trip. It brings a lot of variety, is cheaper, better for the environment and my and other health.
As someone who grew up in Chandigarh, which is the first planned city of India, I can totally relate to the traffic problem and the apathy of the government to do anything about it. Chandigarh specifically is a rich city, with over 1200 cars per 1000 residents. And cars being seen as a status symbol has basically destroyed the city beautiful. The original concept of the city was so well designed (By none other than Le Corbusier) that long distance travel by cars was not at all required, and the city was made to be public transport friendly. But over the years, all those plans have literally been set on fire. And as an insult to the injury, Chandigarh has had a metro system proposal for over 20 years now, without any result. With mindless developers copying the US suburbia model, equal if not more people live outside the city and commute daily to the city for work, in their own vehicles, because public transport, while it exists, is just not reliable. The walkable city center plaza concept (Sector 17) was implemented here before it was a thing, as far back as 1990s. Now it's just a shadow of its former self.
Ask anyone who has seen this city "grow", and they will have a broken heart about it.
Urban planning in India needs some love, urgently.
I live in Joinville, a city in Brazil that is historically known as "the city of bicycles". But it hasn't been the case in the last decades, for with major economic growth from industrial development of the city it has become more and more carcentric. Only in the recent years some effort was made to make bike lanes and whatnots to pedestrians as well, but we are still far from deserving that historical title.
The city center is especially problematic, with a convoluted traffic and difficult for pedestrians and drivers alike. The pandemic turned the problem even worse, causing a lot of businesses to fail in the area. There have been projects in the last few years to adapt these areas to prioritize walking and cycling but those have had little to no incentive, for the political power in the city is biased in favor of the needs of the industry. But I have hope that the positive changes that are taking place in the world are happening here as well. Thanks for the awesome content as always!
1:18 yeah when she was growing up, 20 years ago in the year 2000 everybody used black and white cameras
Wow did nt expect DW news to show developed parts of India and not always run and search for the slums like the BBC...
ebikes!
Yea, e bikes are really going to be revolutionary for our transportation emissions. They’re something like 10X as efficient as an electric car (with one person) and four e bikes are still more efficient than an electric car with 4 people in it.
In addition, a bike way can transport way more people than a road. And finally, foldable e bikes can easily be taken on public transport when traveling exceptionally long distances.
I was thinking the same when yesterday gadkari said that indian roads will be like America by 2024.
It’s insane how people are still trying to figure out the solution to the «traffic problem» as if planners in the 1960s hadn’t already realized that car centric design was doomed from the start.
Consumerism will kill us all. Capitalism helps speed that up. But the desire to have what the other guy has is strong. And who wants to learn from someone else's mistake?
Agreed. So much of what we do is because we’re “keeping up with the Jones’”
Need to find a way to either turn the thing everyone is chasing into something environmentally friendly or get away from the mindset.
I have a weird idea- build flyovers (as it is), then block the upper road so that only cyclists and pedestrians can pass through and other vehicles pass through the lower road- it is better to keep the lower road for cars, just in case the flyover cannot withstand the weight- this will encourage cycling by a huge margin!
Flyovers are not accessible. It's difficult to walk up a flyover or bike up an incline.
@@rockfan2406 hmm that's true as well- but I do not know if flyovers will be able to withstand a traffic jam of cars and all- then we can just do the reverse!
One thing I learnt about using public transport, no need to find parking spots, no need to worry about parking fees, and to an extent, no need to worry about being stuck in traffic. But hey, what do I know? I'm just some broke dude who only uses public transports that can't live a luxury life behing a steering wheel.
Fascinating difference of design views between pedestrians and drivers.
Fantastic video! India is approaching the problem america faced in the 1960’s. Our solution has destroyed and segregated our cities. Good to see a developing country approaching this early and not going the american route
Great documentary. Was very interested to hear about "windshield bias". Im a cyclist and i have been verbally attacked multiple times for protecting myself on the road. People in cars need to understand that they are in the wrong. They are the problem. I can't wait for western cities to transform into shared transport cities with an emphasis on walking, biking, scooting, bussing and training! Whatever you do, do not copy America, car centric cities are awful! I live in Auckland, NZ
It truly was heartwarming to see so many people collectively oppose the elevated corridor project, things like this shows that the public is starting to see through the eye candy of swanky big ticket projects and to see what really helps the masses. That said, there still is a large bias among the politician elites for such projects.
Very nicely articulated… Bengaluru City traffic is really becoming bad to worst everyday!
Cars do not belong in urban areas.
So weird to consider a country as "developing" when they own nuclear weapons and have space program.
That doesn’t make them developed
For example North Korea has a nuclear program it’s definitely not developed
India spends too little in space. It is forced to have nuclear weapons due to the hostility of Pakistan and China. The actual metric of development is per-capita GDP, HDI, and happiness.
@@Hehe-yw8hl Yeah, I know. That's what I said. It's developing yet they have attributes of an already developed nation.
Well , our per capita income is about 2000 dollars which is way too low for being called a developing country, our hdi too is below the world average.
India still has time to give the cities back to the people. However, first, it needs to change its urban planning mindset and start with, stop looking at the USA for urban design inspirations, because we can see how that has worked out for the Americans.
Everything needs to develop. roads, busses, bike paths, parking, pedestrian streets. Everything that’s necessary for the city to work.