5 Reasons You Should NOT Start a Vinyl Record Collection
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- Alright friends, this is for entertainment purposes. Obviously I love collecting records, and I've been doing it for a long time. However, if you have yet to start a vinyl record collection, here are five reasons to give you pause and why you should maybe reconsider that decision. From limited availability to the increasing cost of vinyl and equipment, at the very least you should know what you're getting yourself into. Take it from me: I have been collecting vinyl for over 25 years and have more than 2,800 albums, singles, and EPs in my collection!
0:00 You Should Rethink This Decision
0:35 Limited Availability & Scarcity
1:39 Fragility & Maintenance
3:01 The Expenses
4:36 Storage & Space Requirements
5:27 Inconvenience of Transport
6:15 Should You Really Start a Collection?
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Its like you had your sex amd telling other's not to have sex they will regardless!
Is that a weak attempt to thin down the competition?
Click bait. Tune in to find out why a record collector would tell us not to collect records.
Totally! 😂
That or 100% ignorance or click bait (good one, whoever said that, very well spotted, I may have been 'had' out of vinyl interest
That's exactly what he's trying to do
The paranoia, FOMO, jealousy and baseless conspiracy mongering that goes with obsessive record collecting as demonstrated by this thread is more proof the hobby is bad for your mental health.
Collecting vinyl is a beautiful hobby and I love it.🙂
I think that having a healthy relationship with vinyl collecting is possible for anyone, but it’s also easy to go off the deep end. I only buy vinyls that I love, and I’m trying to make sure to keep my collection concise, balanced, and not overinflated. Also, not having everything you want is part of the fun and thrill of collecting vinyl.. or really collecting anything. It’s all a journey with no destination. Have fun with the ride, and don’t get too serious about it.
Not having some L.P.s, esp' a few I've not heard for many years does not represent fun for me, or I'd be throwing away my most rare favourites L.P.s just for the buzz, the real thrill is finding one in a charity shop or thrift store that you've been longing to hear. My last find, the 1'st eponymous titles Funkadelic not as a repress but as the superiour original early'ish pressing was more of a buzz to me than not finding it. Tho I can hear most yearned-for & my most missed tracks / albums on tube & far less so on Spotify, it's not in the same league of sound quality, & the fact the Internet is vital to do so, takes away the usefulness of ownership. My biggest prob' is finding L.P.s in my sloppy storage placement, or lack of proper placement with some order, there's so many diff ways to categorise my collection of every genre known to mankind & recorded, transcribed from wax cylinder recordings in some cases like Django Rienhart & the Hot Club, Ravel playing Ravel & many more oldies that are not available on Spotify or on tube & uber-rare on L.P. I have the old pre-rec musi- cassette version of some rare 1's I've never found the L.P. for. Stravinsky conducts Stravinsky better than any version of his work I've heard, but I've never seen the L.P. version, I get no thrill from not finding wanted stuff for hearing, not & never just collecting for completion of a bands work. Guess it's all about the music hearing & knowing I can play it at will & better sounding than streaming, all above is just i.m.o. of course.
I only get Kanye West and MF DOOM records and a few other artists like Tyler, the creator.
@@DEIMOS_MEMERwhy Kanye you knows he’s a Nazi right
@@yosh_00 separate art from the artist
Cus hes the goat @@yosh_00
As someone who is in love with outdated media (vhs, old game consoles, ect) i will start my record collection and there is nothing you can do to stop me
1. Availability - I'll just buy a different record.
2. Fragility - I have some ragged records, that have been stored badly, that sound fine (turn down treble, and turn the bass up)
3. Expenses - fuck limited edition, coloured vinyl, and box sets. I'll take your dad's beat up Van Halen record, thanks
4. Storage - what am I gonna use those shelves for? Plants?
5. Transport - eh... yeah true
let's get 5. figured out. is there a way to make master pressing plates from a new vinyl record or if u have 2 of the same record will that help to derive the analogue to a master being manufactured from? what tech is available to derive the vinyl music i really want to know? a solution would certainly help in 5. take certain tracks make smaller records or redesign entirely.
The space and money arguments don't matter to me. If I had no media collection I would be sat in an empty room staring at a screen that would need to be upgraded every time a new device came out. Not to mention all those subscription fees. My friend spends more money on owning nothing than I do on new releases.
I am recovering vinyl collector.
It became an obsession of chasing down rare albums, buying expensive albums for a better quality sleeve, vacuum record cleaner, carbon brushes and importing anti static sleeves from Japan.
Even the sleeve had its own sleeve.
One day I realised I had a problem and sold everything.
Now I am happy and actually enjoying music again with a decent set of headphones and my phone.
dude!! im gonna go this way but probably with cd's! It's a fun hobby, but jesus I've met some older guys at the record fair that say they have 60,000 records! I can't end up like that
@@winstonsecreteriatruffian it creeps up on you and I realised that I'd been spending more on my record collection than my mortgage by quite a way.
I even ended up using carrier bags / thrift stores from charity shops so the wife at the time thought that is where I had bought them from.
We were in a record shop that specialised in rare vinyl and when she saw the prices she was shocked especially when she realised that I had most of the very expensive albums and sometimes two or three of the same album.
After HF hearing loss, I just really enjoy the music now
I used to chase all that extra stuff but I stopped about 10 years ago. I still buy vinyl and CD's. I have around 2500 records and I have plenty of space for them. I live rural so that helps a lot, meaning my home is big enough and I have out buildings too.
@@TrevorDodd-ev1sxbro what in the world
I agree. This is why I buy cds. However, I would like to have a small vinyl collection again at some point (when I say small I mean 4-600 albums).
Went into a ' classic t
Record ' store a year ago. Myfriend wanted to. The guy who ran the place ws pleasant friendly inviting. I told him i buy cds/ cassettes. He said, smiling, " Vinyl is fun!" He had a new Beatles rec for $50... No thanks. Got it for 10$ on cd.
Too late mate.Already addicted and can’t stop buying 😁
You and me both…
Agree 100% I love vinyl & have a fair collection, but LP's are getting too expensive now, I usually won't pay more than £25 for a single LP, availablity of new material is often a issue in the UK. Good video👍
i never paid more than 50 cents for a single and 4€ for an LP but that´s your problem, overpaid records singles or LP´s
Its like you had your sex amd telling other's not to have sex they will regardless!
Collecting vinyl was fun over the last 20 years when great stuff was unwanted and 50p/50c but now everybody things their destroyed Beatles 7" is worth £100 and new albums are £30+. I'm in the process of starting to sell.
For 50p a disc right? 😂
@@RobSpencer-uq3og I list them at ridiculously high prices on discogs, some have sold, others I have taken to the second hand shop. If people are willing to pay up. I'm happy to make a huge profit.
I started collecting vinyl in 1974 and have never looked back.
Do you sell?
@@micheletagliaferro6708 No, not at this time.
I’ve been collecting vinyl for two years now. I most listen to punk rock which sounds terrible anyway. There are many punk albums that sound quite different on vinyl compared to digital or CD. Two that come to mind are The Exploited- Punk’s Not Dead and Black Flag🏴- Damaged It brings me so much joy to crate dig in Oakland, Los Angeles, and Sacramento. I don’t want more than 500 or so records. For me it’s an escape. A bit expensive but so much fun. You have an impressive collection. I’m glad I found your channel.
Great Non MALT LIQUOR Video.
I touch on that briefly in tomorrow’s video - that some albums sound a lot different on vinyl, and in a good way. Thanks for checking out the channel! I’ve had pulling together a post punk list on my video ideas list for a while…
@@AndyFenstermaker Outstanding! As soon as you post it up, I’ll check it out. Another is Crass’ The Feeding Of The 5000. It’s a terrible album by any measure. But it’s like two different listens compared to the digital version. I do MALT LIQUOR Videos and showcase my records. The beauty of this is that I’ll never run out of things to talk about. I won’t take up any more of your time so have a great evening!
punk rock sounds great period ✌️
I was born in the mid-1950s, just about the same time that vinyl LPs were first introduced, so I grew up with the format and I was very familiar with its limitations (just as you have described in this video). After years of using vinyl, however, I found I was listening less and less to music on LP because I was tired of the labor it involved. When I bought a CD player and started collecting compact discs it immediately became apparent to me how much easier it was to access music, and I soon stopped using my turntable altogether. Eventually I decided to sell my turntable and give my LPs away to a friend. I have never seriously considered reinvesting in vinyl because CDs are providing me with what I want (and I really don't miss the diligence of the LP hobby).
I understand your decision but I find the mastering on older original pressings to be better than a lot of modern digital formats. I am not sure (maybe you can tell me) if a person can even find out which version of a digital file they are listening to is via a streaming service?
@@alanrogs3990 Unfortunately, it seems to be true that producers of digital audio formats have often been guilty of bad mastering. I have reached 2 conclusions about vinyl vs. digital. First, what turntable owners sometimes refer to as vinyl sound is actually due to the sonic characteristics of the cartridge, not the vinyl medium. Second, the most important factor by far for the fidelity of both vinyl and digital audio is good mastering. Well-mastered digital sounds just as good as vinyl. I'm afraid I can't offer advice about streaming formats because I listen primarily to Classical music on CD, and I have no expertise concerning music that is streamed digitally.
@@marksalamon619 I enjoy both vinyl and CD too. A cartridge is the same as a DAC. Good ones and bad ones. But I have never really heard a terrible one of either. Just some are better than others, in my opinion.
Ok if your young and want to build a collection, ignore what he’s saying, u can do it on the cheap, hit garage sales, estate sales and thrifts, if u find a rare album u don’t like, sell em and buy stuff you want. Stay outta the hype and fomo that many collectors that started anytime after 2008 can fall into like this guy, not intended to insult him, just how I see it
I only buy secondhand - mostly garage sales, and FB marketplace. I am in no hurry. Some years I score big, others I don't. I have other hobbies to keep me occupied when I am going through a vinyl dry spell. Its the hunt for me, and I only want original releases. Walmart can keep their $40 albums. I pay $1-$2 or buy in bulk, and resell what I don't want/need.
is there a way to make master pressing plates from a new vinyl record or if u have 2 of the same record will that help to derive the analogue to a master being manufactured from? what tech is available to derive the vinyl music i really want to know?
I still have all of my vinyl since my teenage years
Yeah, I use to have like 300 Vhs tapes not to mention Dvds that I have in which I had much more, but now I only have like 50 vhs tapes, in one box, and records especially would take up alot of space, so I get that, but I'm more into Cd's, cassettes, and movies myself, with the occassional record. My relatives like my sister think I'm weird for collecting my stuff in general. Yet my nephew has a extensive shoes collection, lol.
Great video!
😂 I 100% agree with everything you’re saying. I spend way too much time and money at Barnes & Nobles, vintage record stores and of course discogs. Discogs all. The. Time. Right now, I’m thinking of upgrading my system and there goes another $2.5K! If you’re a hardcore fan of The Beatles like I am, you end up spending a lot of money on the original UK pressings shipped from Europe and we all know how shipping pretty much adds 30~50% to the cost! I honestly have nothing new to add, but I’ll just say this: listening to vinyl encourages me to listen to the entire album. I don’t know how to describe it… you get more intimate with the music. The problem is sometimes I have no idea what the title of the songs are lol. Yeah it’s easy to look it up but why bother when you can sit in your chair listening to the next song? This is so much better than immediately knowing the title and the lyrics of the current song on your phone, and then move on to another playlist caused by the culture of instant gratification. This is the real way to listen to music! I sound so old but I don’t care.
I don’t recommend anyone to get into vinyl. I really really don’t. It’s dangerous and expensive, but if you do get into it… I know exactly why :-)
i know it ,you might know how instruments sounds or the high-quality microphones already existing in the 60´s ,i started to hear music with the Beatles than other bands has i was growing up and have all beatles albums sold at the time and bought the red and blue doble records where one can hear for the first time most of the beatles songs in stereo excluding abbey road the only stereo recorded album from the beatles , in the 90´s a older friend of mine went to my house and i had my sony tv that cost me at the time what today is 2.000€ for many reasons being the first evolved as the last high-definition crt tv´s at 100hz sold and i had the vhs tape of the film backbeat showing beatles life in germany ,there´s a scene where the beatles go to the drunken people drinking mugs of beer selling a vinyl without cover with she loves you in english in one side and in german in the other side but before he tells me ,it makes me remenber my youth i used to go to places like this and get drunk on beer when he see´s the scene of paul macartney selling those singles ,he says i´m going home but i´ll return after a 30 minuts period he knocks at my door and says ,"see the single" and i ask him the single in the movie ,"yes, i bought one from a kid"and i took the single cleaned it and played it and i knew he lived in hamburg in the 50´s ,than he says" it´s yours" so i have the single sold by them in the place they were playing most of the nights, that are not vinyl but wax records ,once someone ofered me 20.000€ for the record and i phoned him and asked if i could sell his single ,he said yes ,it´s yours and i did receive 20.000€ or equivalent at the time and with 2.000€ bought a diesel Mercedes, a w124 with a 200D engine ,like 50 to 60 h.p. at the most but more confortable than any new car
This is coming from a guy with a wall full of records???? Come on man!!! You’re not the guy to tell someone not to collect!!
😆 It's less a directive statement and more a warning on what they're considering getting themselves into 🤷♂️ I wouldn't trade collecting for anything!
. Well said
@AndyFenstermaker I get what you're doing an I appreciate the video. I'm considering getting into collecting, I actually have a single vinyl record, with nothing to play it on rn. I love music, and I like owning albums that I like, but I'm not sure if I want to be a record collector
@@chimchu3232 I also had a single record with no turntable for multiple years until recently, now I’m like $5000+ deep lol
I get it. I haven´t had any vinyl since 2001, after switching exclusively to CDs in the mid-1990s. I still buy CDs all the time, and am now at just over 4000 units on my shelves, which are full to the brim. Add over 300 CDs sitting in a closet due to room constraints and the problem becomes clear. But will I stop buying CDs because of that? Certainly not. That´s not how it works, LOL.
Yep. I'm the same with vinyl. Do you regularly play the CDs? That was my issue with those -- I just never played them! Though I do spin about 5-6 records a day on average.
How many of your CDs suddenly stopped playing after 10'yesrs ir less, for no reason, or suddenly fail to have their track numbers load & hence not play, or just start skipping, all despite no holes in the varnished over label side which has the data underneath. When Phillips announced their new CD music carrier, it's shown to press prototypes were a data layer totally sandwiched between 2 discs of polycarbonate, see through plastic. But when it came to production, they decided to massively cut manufacturing costs by having just one poly' see through disc with the silver data layer stuck to one side & read through the poly'plastic layer from the other side, the only thing protecting the data layer is the label & varnish. Thats why many folk like me have 10% of my CDs do the above mentioned things, the data layer "oxidizes" over time & gets slowly destroyed, climate & humidity depending. None of my 2K plus L.P. have never ever done that in 50 years of collecting since I was 16
& if you'd heard your vinyl on a decent but (crucially) a properly aligned m.c. cartridge via a good phono stage plugged in your pre- or integrated amp, & then compared any recording on both formats, all else being the same ...no fricking way would you have turned to CD. But I'm indirectly glad folk did when I pick up a rare'ish near mint s/h L.P. i'd long wanted, but I feel pity for them not upgrading to hear their albums in all their intended & got glory
@@thespotlightkid1011 Thats probably because you got those bootleg CDs with music burned on them. I got actual store bought CDs from the late 80s and 90s that still play without problems but some burnt CDs i got stopped playing in some CD players for no reason
@@thespotlightkid1011Or the cdplayer focus failing and jamming the lens into your favorite cd? Nice gash half way around the thing... p.o.s.
I’m so glad you said all of this. It’s an addiction that can’t be stopped. So I urge you not to start😭
Great information!
Where’d you get that cubby storage?
IKEA. It’s their Kallax shelf. Truly perfect for records, just make sure to construct it with the long pieces horizontal or the weight could collapse everything.
72 seasons/Metallica (2LP) 50€/52$, Memento mori/Depeche Mode (2LP/3sides) 55€/58$, Hackney diamonds/Rolling Stones (1LP) 40€/42$...and many more are the reason why i don't start to collect vinyls again!
Keep the one you truly like and get rid of the one that you don't like.
Easier said than done 😅
As a husband whos wife collects vinyl it is def a challenge, she has over 800 albums (most though she has paid under $15 for over a 10 year period) The worst things in my opinion are the space it takes up, they arent great to look at just on a shelf, and then moving them. Since I have known her we have had to pack these things and move them 3 times so far with a 4th time coming up in the not too distant future
Why do you move so much?
@@alanrogs3990 while we were dating she moved apartments twice, then we got married and moved into our home. That was move number 3. #4 hasn't happened yet, maybe a bit before that happens afterall
Lol! That’s why we all start collecting. Because of all of it.
Yep. There are definitely reasons in here that can also be countered as a reason TO start one *shrug*
the same thing is true with books. You can use e-book reader and have all the national library inside. Or... You could have a perfect sense of a shady paper, the smell of the history, tactical sense when reading. And... permanent problem with free space on the shelves ))
Well, that should be the golden middle, - having in your collection only those, that really give you deep feelings, emotion, and calmness.
Sounds like *someone* is doing their best to get lower prices and better availability for their vinyl collection ;). Well played, sir. Well played, lol ;)
I like the look , feel & sound of vinyl. But I just don't have the space or finances to start a sizeable vinyl collection. Also to clean and maintain records is way too time consuming for my liking. So I prefer to collect CD albums. 😊
Totally get it! CDs just don't have the nostalgic feel to them for me.
Did you have someone build that shelving setup?
@@sturmgewehr70 - Nope, it's the standard KALLAX shelf by IKEA
I have decided to get rid of my collection, which was mostly build up in the timeframe end of 2000s until 2015. A lot of vinyls got very price. Some of those LPs get 10-fold in price. Newer Vinyl, so my impression, is often mainstream music, medium price around 30 EUR. Also used LPs are expensive. Albums which i bought 15 years ago for 10 EUR are now 50 EUR. A time ago i have switched to CDs and i will stick to it.
My biggest issue is portability. Can't listen to them on the go, in my vehicle, while riding my bike. My music is cd's in my vehicle, spotify or CZcams on my phone with headphones, or to my Bluetooth receiver
Haha! It's like a parent telling a kid not to do something and why they can't do it 😁 It just makes them more determined to do it 👍 I enjoyed your video.
Brian in Fort Worth 🎶
I like that one, I got told off for effing curses I learn lt in the family, now this guy has inspired me to hunt down more vinyl on my 'want' list, like my family got me effing & blinding as a chlld-hobby, controll me? ...fu*k off!
I cured warped s/h L.P.s as i bought them.
They sell machines to do so, never buy one but instead notice the heat temp' used in descriptions & their design ...& you'll find a way. I use an old Thorens 150 platter, l.p. with another any'ole platter i bought as 'for parts' from eBay & push down, tie-up & leave L.P. inbetween them, no heat but just in warm place & check every day or 2 till it'll be totally flat without groove damage, or buy the £750'ish machine. Some use sheets of glass but you have to 'sink' the whole central bobbled-off area to do it well, hence 2 t/t platters, bonding tape & a warm is ideal
after i've watched behind you I have to start a new one😂
As a musician, I have multiple ways in which I listen to music. My classical and metal albums sound superior on vinyl, while pop sounds great on my studio speakers. I listen to digital music on Bluetooth speakers as well as my car speakers and headphones. Point is, there are a multitude of ways to listen to music and you don’t have to exclusively pick one. Trying to deter people from experiencing different methods of listening seems like a weak attempt to open up the market for those with an addiction they can’t control.
Girlfriend would like to know she has her vinyls kept sealed for when she purchased them and has them also in non Acid Leaching sleeve then has them in a vinyl case is that alright to have like that
Only if that vinyl case is in a faraday cage!
@@AndyFenstermaker she has the flea market case purchased from jbhifi
I’ve been collecting for half my life so it’s a bit late now!
Same …..😁
At this point I’ve gone a bit beyond half my life 😳
@@AndyFenstermaker Well I’m still a youngster
@derianimp I started somewhat early too 🤷♂️
@@AndyFenstermaker I started around age 10 and Im 21
I hear you. Vinyl is getting costly. I’m glad my collection of what I wanted is complete. When I go into a store now, I drift to CD’s and box sets.
The only excellent in sound quality CD I ever heard was from a set of 2 or 3 that the amplifier manufacturer "Naim" had made, just to show how CD's can sound. Trouble is, nobody ever produces, engineers, records them as well as the British "Naim" company did.
thumbs upfor the Bowie shirt💙
I think I found it on Etsy… definitely one of my favorite shirts!!
I just want music from the 1940’s to recreate that magic vibe in my house
Sounds like your saying "Don't buy vinyl....because I want the good stuff for my collection!"
If a record was $20 in the 50s or 60s, that would be about $100 in today's turns. That is not cheap
Superb overview-all very very true 🎉😅
It's too dang expensive? We know! My wife and I had to sell our favorite kid in order to afford 3 new REALLY rare LP's. True story!
I'm watching this and I'm years into the collecting, which taught me some
- It's easy to buy a record, but hard to sell it.
- Vinyl needs space.
- Maintain your collection like if it was your lawn.
But considering all of that, I would still recommend starting vinyl collecting, because it's a great hobby. You don't need to go into limited runs - buy used, look for bargains.
True. I started with interest in limited runs, but luckily lost that interest. Now I value buying directly from the artist or from a known dealer face to face.
BEST REASON: The existence of You Tube! EVERY RECORD FROM WAX CYLINDERS TO TODAY IS ON HERE and no storage required!
Thumbnail : "Don't start collecting vinyl"
The second the video starts : Millions of records in the background.
(I'm joking don't take this too seriously)😂
I'm currently in the process of selling most of my records. I'm gonna keep some, but I'm shedding probably 80% of them. My 5 reasons are similar to yours but I word them like this: 1.) Expensive. 2.) Can't play in my car/boat 3.) Bulky 4.) Heavy 5.) Delicate and easy to damage.
1. if you stopped buying then they aren't expensive 2. generally one never could anyway 3. okay they take up space, so does most of the crap we buy 4. it doesn't matter unless you move every few years 5. stop playing them when you're drunk.
you do you, dude. why waste one second of time worrying about my reasons?@@alanrogs3990
All technologies and formats change over time, so not using them because they might become scarce in the future is pointless, because becoming obsolete is an inevitability for even the most modern of methods.
I've been collecting L.P. records since I was 16, for 50 years now. A few I still have since then, many I bought in the 1970's & 1980's have been played countless times, 100 or hundreds maybe, I don't count but the reason I have no groove damage on them, & no added ticks or pops on s/h L.P.s** that had some, is because I am meticulous in aligning my cartridges needle precisely with alignment protractors & made sure later linear tracking tonearms are playing along the records true radius. (**None unless I've dropped or knocked one) I'm sick of hearing folk say "you can only play L.P. 2 or 3 or even 50 times max' (is =y ridiculous) before they become unplayable. People who say anything like that are either parroting or do not realise nothing destroys vinyl's groove more than a sharp diamond banging around left & right because the idiots don't realise that doesn't mean "roughly alighed" ...it means "precisely aligned" I've had about 10 CDs without scratches or cracks that suddenly start skipping or suddenly fail to have their contents read for no apparent reason & on more than 1 player, this has never happened to any L.P. I have, tho the reason I prefer vinyl is it's higher dynamic range despite CD's theoretical max' dynamic range ...it's never used but in the 80's, CDs sound was compressed in the "Loudness Wars" where the louder of 2 sources is supposed to sound the better of the 2, it does not, CD is sterile, uninspiring compared with a decent vinyl t/table & phono stage, all else being the same. All my friends who once thought swallowed the hype in the mid 80's are mildly to extremely flabbergasted hearing one of my L.P. that I or they have the CD version of, when hearing them both in any order, any vollume. People, don't buy into the lie that Vinyl is crap & L.P.s only play a few times b4 they become unplayable, it's fabricated or created out of sheer ignorance. I've heard hi-res' streamed & it's very slightly better that red-book CDs.
Even a good cassette sounds better than cd.
I have Astral Weeks on both format and the cassette is wayyy warmer in tones, the cd is very tinny and thin.
My friend, I’m already deep down the rabbit hole with no point of ever returning 😅
You and me both 🤣
I too collect records... 78rpm. Easily more fragile and certainly heavier. I lost my interest in vinyl at around 45-50 or so. Reinvesting in digital didn't satisfy me. Now I listen to bands that I have never heard and love the music. Surface noise is simply part of the experience. Plus, my 1926 console orthodontic phonograph doesn't need a separate speaker.
I am more of a listener than collector and probably have more CDs than vinyl, lots of cassettes too. I started around 1980 and really started getting the numbers up once I got a real job in the late 90s. I tend to buy from thrift stores and flea markets, the prices are just too high in record stores. I got 18 records last weekend for about $45, some are a bit rough but once cleaned play OK through my hifi. I find records versus seeking out specific ones. I don’t like outer sleeves either. I am sure my collection is not that valuable but don’t really care.
I got back I to vinyl 15 years ago as my music taste was shifting quite considerably from pop into the 1940s and 1950s jazz easy listening era like Bing Crosby, Frank Sinatra, Nat King Cole, Jim Reeves, Dean Martin, Elvis Presley etc that stuff will always sound better on vinyl, yes you can get a lot of it on cd and MP3 downloads but it's filtered and compressed and cleaned / muffed to hell not to mention the loudness wars issue the only way to hear real old stuff is through vinyl which is as it was when it was recorded.
I've given up buying new re release pressings now they have become too expensive and the quality is terrible It seems they don't care like they used too and just pump out any old crap to make quick money the last new pressing I bought was Michael bubles Christmas album and I kid you not it had left and right channel drop outs and the lp sounded like it had been played using a nail as a stylus sounded awful I even took it back for a replacement but the replacement was exactly the same which is a great shame because I really want Bing Crosbys Christmas with Bing with the London Symphony Orchestra it's £50 new but I know it's going to sound awful so i just settled with the cd version, my LP collection mostly comes from charity shops and boot sales here in the UK you can find some real bargains and some of the music shops around my way have a lot of old stuff and decent prices too
It makes sense to buy used for you given your tastes! I’m sure you can find a number of solid releases for great prices. I hear you... They just wouldn’t sound as good new. Some of the older albums don’t sound right without the aesthetic of the wear, the pops and cracks, etc.
First thing you should be doing right now : Go to bed! It is late at night! No, it is actually early in the morning. So perhaps stay awake and go to bed early tonight instead
Yeah this is why I'm only going to get my favorite albums and that's it. Scarcity is a big thing especially with me being into Black Metal.
I've had a lot of problems with collecting way too much of a lot of things, records in the past, movies, figures, games, it goes on.. So I've learned to only get the ones that truly mean something to me. The rest I'll just stream.
I switched to Cds a long time ago. Prices for wax is nuts cds are way more affordable.
Im planning on getting rid of my vinyl and taking yp stamp collecting, takes up less space
Have fun with that Costanza! 😆
First record I bought was 1963 stones I wanna be your man. Still collecting now
Every reason you gave is just why I LOVE Vinyl LPs. it might not be for everybody but if---- IF you set a GOAL of what you want and never exceed that goal LPs are great. For over 60 years my goal was 400 albums total tops. I currently am about there at 380 and I know what the last 20 or 30 will be for the most part, but I will stop around 400 as who could listen to more. I never look for the click bait albums that is signed by all members of the band or is it a rare or limited pressing, as I have found they all PLAY THE SAME SONGS. My deal is what kind of shape is the record & jacket & card in, and is all the artwork with it. As for people handling MY albums, I give a TEST to anybody that wants to touch them. I hand them a few beat to hell nasty old useless albums in the jacket and watch how they handle them, if they know what they're doing, then & only then are they allowed to open up my best copy's. I have found, they either know, or get the hell away from my Vinyl.
Can someone explain to me why games have started producing vinyl records?
Lol - there’s no way I’d let anyone handle my records or record player.
Half of my collection is from op shops the other half secondhand shops.
New records here average $50.
Collecting from a charity shop has introduced me to artists I’d previously overlooked: I love my studio copies of Peter Paul and Mary; I particularly like their interpretations of traditional English music.
I have a coupple i collect most of them i scan, digitize and resell! Sharing is caring!
I’m getting out… serious, my collection Dates back to 88. It’s time. I wanna be free
Look me in my eyes when you’re giving me advice
At this point in time it is too expensive to start collecting records... space problems, convenience, portability, etc. The good thing is I have most of my collection that I started in the 1970s and more or less ended in the 1990s. CDs are now way cheaper, and digital is the cheapest.
Good job Andy, just discovered your channel, and you are so right in regards to the cost of some of this vinyl, just ridiculous. I'm just getting back into vinyl, and agree with what you are stating... I still stream, but use that to find albums that I really like, and then look to purchase on vinyl. There are not many albums out there that "light my fire". I will not purchase an album on vinyl for one or two songs, it has to have at least 3/4 of the tracks that I enjoy. In the end, there is nothing like the sound of vinyl running through my Sansui 4000 phono stage out to the Zu's... Mofi Studiodeck, w/MasterTracker cartridge. ;-)
Nice more vinyl for us 🙏🙏🙏🙏
If your feeling sinister is a fantastic album.
Too late.... I already have a vinyl record collection.
If its pure for the music invest in a decent digital setup. (streaming)
Soundquality is often better and its way cheaper with unlimited music choice.
Hi from uk.
The only problem in my mind is the weight.
I wonder how much your collection weighs.
My collection isn't quite as big because i only buy classic iconic albums from the 1960's 70's & 80's very occasional 90's depending on what it is.
I don't always trust modern music on vinyl as i tend to think that most of it wasn't copied from the orginal master tapes.
Im a pure analog man.
Also many brand new re releases on vinyl that state that they have been remastered are no different to the original copies.
And in many cases the original pressing can sound 100x better! Pure money spinner!!!
Quality and static control with original pressings is usually better, surface noise and bumps seems to be the biggest problem with B new!
Thought i'd also add that when buying brand new factory sealed you cannot physically check the condition and that about 8x/10
the record will be sat in a none proper inner lined sleeve with it sucked to the inside with factory grit air born particals inbedded into the grooves. Ramble over!
So relevant. I'll be moving in just over a month, and I was thinking about running the calculation as I prepare to haul them all to a new place about 10 miles away.
I do notice that about "remastered" versions as well. Sometimes you find some gems that actually sound better than original, but that's rare. If anything, they can sound different, but not necessarily better or worse. I'm not an audiophile though, so you probably have more cred there than me!
Thanks for chiming in!
I'll tell you what cured me from that record nonsense. I bought new Marillion seasons end and immediately after pulling it from the sleeve - dcratches static an dust. Then after cleaning it of course - distortion on vocals. I must be doing smth wrong. Second turntable, same. Then I played another gem of a band - crackling, buzz, cleaning again. Same shit. Then it stroke me, I am using all that precious time on all that stupidity instead of listening.
I use Spotify for most of my listening. I only buy an album on Vinyl if I believe it is an absolute story.
Here is a trick you can do on all those hard to find or expensive vinyl records you are desperately looking for... Have you ever heard of custom vinyl ? As funny as it is they will print you a vinyl record and the album covers and record middle stickers. I was looking for the first Danzig album and they are super rare and very expensive... So I downloaded the songs from the album and covers to make it to the exact replica and it was ! The vinyl plays flawless and you couldt tell it was a bootleg ! Got if for more than half the price at $100 !
The best way to start a record collection: join the press and begin reviewing records. If you're good at it, you eventually begin to get them for free. The catch is that you have to be a good writer, though.
This isn't how I started a record collection, but it is what I did back in '06 when I started my blog. Retrospect, I should have jumped into CZcams rather than waiting until the 2020s.
"Take it from me" ....err, no thanks, it's bollocks. Do I typify a deffinate but not unanimous comment trend here?
Unless your hearing is so great that you can detect tones quite sound quality is highly vital to you, there is no real need to have vinyl. Don't over-embellish the ordinary things. I don't see why new copies of albums need to be so damn expensive.
Number 1 - it's great to vintage shop. Many records grow in value.
Number 2 - keep records horizontal and touch on edges. Easy...
Number 3 - Cost is doable, and equipment available. Grandmom probably will give her setup to you.
Number 4 - Storage is like all libraries, it becomes the wall decor and can be attractive.
Number 5- Record travel case is great.
Obviously, you are as Twisted Sister says " Useless and Weak" 😂
5:20 I like that sound anyway… 😅
My record collection is valued at $30,000....try getting that from your digital music. Plus the art is just as fun to look at. The sound is so warm, like butter. Some artists ONLY release on vinyl. Because the sound is so different, if you're an audiophile you know. Nothing beats it.
Good for you, if your house burns - all gone. Also the sounds make little difference because vinyl is an inferior medium compared to digital.
We should collect round smooth stones!
Well too late. I can't help 😊. I love listening my records. I am okay with finding 🙂 the unicorn. 😮 it's a wonderful high. 😊
6. Because anything from the last 20 years plus is basically just a CD pressed onto vinyl - so all of the inconvenience of vinyl plus worse sound.
If you really want to enjoy great sounding music - get a top loading cd player. Put it on, watch it spinning, and enjoy. Even better, get a printer with cdr option and make your bootlegs of that rare beautiful music with that quasi picture disc look. I'm like a kid in a candy store. Enjoy
That sprained ankle is coming home with me after seeing your video! Lets put the whole obsession in to perspective, it's cheaper than therapy, cheaper than having an affair AND cheaper than the fallout of drugs, booze! Ha ! Thanks from the UK
Ha!! Love that perspective 😆 very true. Sprained Ankle is such a great album!! Definitely gets plenty of rotation…
While I do agree with you that vinyl records can be super expensive, it's a way better format than digital. I love doing it. I'm not particular on who touches my records. I think it's a great hobby collecting vinyl. But hey, everyone's entitled to their own opinion.
modern vinyl is digital
the one benefit I love with a lot of new album releases is getting the digital download bundled with the record. 2 for the price of 1 helps offset the $25-$45 cost, at least mentally 😂
i quit buying records. cd's take up a lot less room. no getting up and flipping it over to the other side. i can instantly skip songs with the press of a button. i like the sound quality better and no snap crackle pop sounds :)
Vinyl requires time and money which kind of ensure you will listen songs that are really worth listening, and you will invest presence and time into it. It is actually a buffer against buying ton of BS.
This man's a smooth brain
Too late 🤣🤣🤣. I started 2 year's ago and can't stop myself
😂 Yeah… I was you about 23 years ago. Still going strong with about 2800 items in my collection 🙄🤷♂️
@@AndyFenstermaker that's a HUGE collection lol. And I thought getting over 100 was a lot lol. With limited edition pressings I normally put myself on the email list, that way when there are a limited pressing of something, I've already pre ordered it. And it works out good for me because I've already seen the value of a lot of them double then what I've paid for them
And see, that's a prime example of why you SHOULD start a collection (vid coming in the next few weeks, hopefully). The longer you're at it, you kinda develop a sixth sense about collecting. And the sweet dopamine hit from scoring a GRAIL while crate digging in some random place is something you TRULY need to experience 🎉 Well done on that!
hi, I was expecting the "pressing and mastering" thing to be mentioned as well. I have never heard a single complaint from anyone about the quality and condition of a new cd or digital song. Contrary to vinyl and especially the reissues of the last few years too many albums sound mediocre to bad even if played for the first time on a turntable. Another issue is the number of tracks. Given the fact that vinyl grooves have a specific space where tracks/songs can be pressed into wax, there is a very big problem with the frequencies of certain instruments and vocals being recorded. Generally a cd can hold even 10 long songs without any problem, while vinyl sound quality starts to being questioned after 5 songs per side (it depends on other factors as well of course, but this is the most common case) which is a big deal, especially when it comes to compilations, greatest hits, lp's in general. Another issue is the music player, which I agree is not about the media format itself, but still is. You get digital no problem, cd, again regardless of the cd player it will sound ok. With vinyls it is a completely different case. Your needle needs to be in good shape or your vinyls can be ruined and so is your audio experience. The same goes for almost every part of your tuntable. To hear something good you need a lot more than just put the record on and letting it roll. I got cds and vinyls. Never in my life I had to mess with my cd player. My record player on the other hand is more like a part time job 😁. And I'll add something that might not be a problem for others, but was one of the reasons I basically stopped buying records. Brexit has been a really bad situation for many record lovers, especially if your favorite styles of music are mainly produced by British based producers, which is very likely the case as almost 80% of music productions are coming from the island 😁 Add cov 20- + other crises and the picture is completed. Delays, cancellations, lost mail packets, money down the drain. I could think of even more, but it's already depressing enough so no need to...
And a second later here it is. Your mp3's, i tunes dont need anything, your cd's will come in their cases and if you dont handle them in a barbaric way you're ok. Vinyls on the other hand will probably need some extra protection like a new cover in case the original doesen't suit you (yep this also may happen) and some proper inner sleeves and outer sleeves wich alot of records dont even have from the start, along with slipmatt ++++
Hmm....one of my main hobbies is listening to music, it's a hobby, I love cleaning and curating records, maintaining my system and reaping the rewards with glorious sounding music.
Sure you can plop in a CD, just like you can eat a store bought tomato, but it's not the same at all to me.
Everyone chooses freely. Music can be heard equally pleasantly in any medium since it is a brain process that everyone handles individually. Also, everyone chooses of their own accord what, how and how much to invest in whatever pleases them. From there on, the objective criteria that I referred to come into play. Thank you for sharing your opinion.
OK ... I love the CD / store bought tomato analogy! You captured it perfect!!!
Most of the modern vinyl are warped; you purchase a brand-new record between 30 or 40 dollars or even an expensive box set to find that the record or the records are warped. Terrible quality control.
i can’t believe someone made a video like this 😂😂😂😂😂 imagine being like “OH FS. I’m definitely not gonna start collecting vinyl after this vid! thanks 👍” like bro who cares??? people…. do want you want. it’s your life, embrace your hobbies! have fun 😎
It used to be about the music, then Discogs came along and sadly now its all about collectability, splattered vinyl limited editions in 12 versions in every colour except black. People don't even open their records! They're too worried to play it as will affect the value of it, then you have the low life flippers on that sell LP's for 5 times the price once a pressing sells out. RSD is no longer about supporting independent stores its all a cash grab now. Meh! Im out.