Why everyone in 900 AD was Scared of Tunisia | The Life & Times of Ibrahim II
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This is another one of those episodes where there isn't a whole lot of clickbait-worthy shenanigannery but gosh darn it Ibrahim was cool and messed up and I wanted to talk about him
Music (in order of appearance):
Brett Van Donsel - Continental G*psy Swing (I learned recently that some Romani people consider the word a slur so covering my bases here, but that's the name of the track)
Kevin Macleod - Hidden Past
Kevin Macleod - Royal Coupling
Brett Van Donsel - Continental G*psy Swing
Camille Saint Saens - Danse Macabre (had this one stuck in my head for weeks, you're welcome)
Kevin Macleod - Padanya Blokov
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Think you could do Olga of Kiev? I think her story is really damn impressive
Edit: she outwitted a Pope and murdered the guys who killed her husband while they slept
Grains of salt? You mean the stuff in the ground under Carthage?
You should do a video on Skanderbeg, the Ottoman sultan feared him because he was able to make a bunch of unruly peasants beat the ottoman army, he wins battles 10,000 to 40,000, 8,000 to 100,000, converted from Orthodox to Sunni to Catholic, they called him Lord Alexander (Skanderbeg) because he was just that good of a military leader, he made a nation from almost nothing with his bare hands.
Byzantine Trail: Your Emir Died of Dysentery
I Second Olga of Kiev! Followed by Thomyris if you want to do a double feature.
Just imagine if he had achieved that monster of a plan...
Good Allah...
@@averageperson8274 if he achieved we would probably say good allah
Probably would have collapsed his own emirate in the process but history would not have forgotten him, that's for sure!
@@TwiggyBoy I said good Allah
@@JackRackam who knows? Nobody expected some Macedonian boys able to conquered the whole Persian empire in a lifetime, especially he lived in a time when previous Arabs invasion against 2 superpowers able to succeed so that would be no wonder if he thought himself able to do the same.
And as it usually goes, "and then he died".
Why does this keep happening
The fates are funny like that.
Fate doesnt want a unified world
Ibrahim II was a true CK2 player.
Absolute chad
I see you’re a man of culture.
Especially with dying from dysentery in the middle of your greatest conquest
@@mortache Shit i knew it wasn't only me...
You just gave Paradox the idea to add an impossible Ibrahim II achievement to Crusader Kings III
"Conquer every Italian state, sack Rome, capture Constantinople before the Caliph's invitation ends"
that would be hilarious if they did that.
I can guarantee you some streamers will dedicate their entire careers to getting that one.
Aeneas' sons subdued. Dido approves, even though Aurelian had lifted her curse.
Ngl, i think the first thing they would have to do is to increase the power of the Caliphs outside his actual borders. Most of Sunni states are nominal subjects to the Abbasid anyway and there needs to be a system to represent that.
@@prestonjones1653 TommyK would probably do it
Abbasid Caliphate: Alright buddy, come to Baghdad, we need a word with you.
Ibrahim II: Okay sure
Caliphate: So you're just gonna march through Egy- *DID YOU DECLARE WAR ON BYZANTIUM?!*
Ibrahim II: * S C R E A M I N G *
he really didn't want to go so he took the scenic rout on nightmare difficulty.
hanibal : my true sucescor.
@@abdel-rahmansaid6094
His Italian vacation wasn't quite as pleasant as he hoped.
The pizza probably wasn't nearly as good in the days before tomatoes.
*Epic Ululation*
Rackham: “Grains of salt all around!”
Me: well, they are in Carthage...
Too soon
@@popdartan7986 Its been over a millenia tbf
Carthago delenda est.
@@popdartan7986 I'd say too late!
@@oranjethefox8725 still too soon
That was the most anticlimactic ending of a tyrannical conquerer I have ever seen
If he actually managed to pull that off he would have been a greater conqueror than Alexander or Julius Ceasar
@@ronanshanley7829 just imagine how our history class would be like
"the soldiers wanted to go home, people got sick, the leader died under definitely legit circumstances you guys no need to look into it" - is actually pretty common
Hold my beer.
@@namekman01 That's how Alexander the Great died.
This guy's neck and neck with Atilla for the "Biggest Blue Balls from an apocalyptic invasion" award
Let's not forgot the Japanese guys who was set to invade Oda Nobunaga, called the Lord of War, having fought with the future founder of Japan several times before and actually given a good fight... only to die just before his invasion.
Let’s not forget Alexander the Great, the man who conquered the then largest stable empire from the relatively tiny peninsula of Greece, and did so without losing a single battle. Alexander inspired most of the great warlords and generals to come, from Pompey and Caesar to Napoleon.
@@westernstealth873 Let's not forget Hitler, the man who started a war against the world and started a war against the world lmao.
Timur the Lame may be up for that award too as despite his conquests when he wanted to invade China, death decided now was a good time to take him.
How about the 2 massive Mongol invasions of Japan that both got destroyed by storms.
Abbasid Caliphate: "Alright Ibrahim...we would like you to come to Baghdad to have a word with you..."
Ibrahim II: "Okay, sure...but excuse me for my tardiness..."
Caliphate: "Okay, just come through Egypt and...*DEAR ALLAH, ARE YOU INVADING THE BYZANTINE EMPIRE?!?*"
Ibrahim II: * at the top of his lungs * *"LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYY JEEEENKIIIIIINS!"*
"Oh my God he just went in"
@@JackRackam *“By Prophet's Beard”* ~ Baghdad Caliphate
At least I have chicken
Also Ibrahim II: Oh no, those Roman cities are hard to siege! Oh no, I caught Dysentery! Oh no, I shat my pants! Oh no I am Dead!
@@jarekwrzosek2048*you have died of dysentery*
Just imagine if Ibrahim II had succeeded in his grand plan beyond what he did in our timeline. The Caliph would have probably teamed up with the Christian powers to try and stop him.
Ya that actually happened during the Crusades. When two emirs were at each others throat, one would conspire with the Crusader Kingdom. The same happened between the Crusaders themselves when one tried to get a Muslim power to support their claimant. Also During the Ottoman Portuguese war, the Venetian Merchants were rooting for the Ottomans war because they were scared that the new Portuguese trade route would knock the Venice as Europe no.1 import hub. Goes to show money and power takes precedent over religion.
@@icysaracen3054 it always has lol!
That also kinda happened in the 19th century with Muhammad Ali of Egypt. He was about to conquer the Ottoman Empire until Europe realized that the Muslim world was about to be consolidated by one of the most competent people alive at the time
That's pretty much what happened with the Ottomans. At some point, the Venetians and Austrians teamed up with the Safavids and Mamlukes to contain the Ottomans because they were too successful. If Ibrahim II became top dog all of a sudden, the Caliph may actually 100% have teamed up with the Christians to stop him.
@@Killzoneguy117 what is your idea for the most strategic place that a state could be founded in
wow, and i thought executing and replacing the entire aristocracy in CK2 was really ahistorical and impractical, especially the times where i cause my entire country to revolt against me and then won by merc spamming them to death. then i find out somebody actually did that in real life.
The Danse Macabre during that description of the military campaign at the end was a really nice touch
I'm quite pleased with it, but I've had that music stuck in my head for weeks now D:
@@JackRackam happens anytime I hear it and I'm never mad about it.
@@JackRackam
Ibrahim II of Tunisia : *exists
Byzantine Sicily; Southern Italy, small Langobard princes: */chuckle* _“We're In Danger”_
Crusader Kings players when they get bored of a good guy run
Meh i always just play after the end, original game is so boring
Or when we want to start fresh.
@@yonathanrakau1783 what about HIP or The Winter King
@@ianlilley2577 mhh never try that before good idea
@@ianlilley2577 im just quite bored with that timeline but winter king suppose to be good
Well, that was a disappointing ending...
History is full of anticlimaxes. Least he didn't fall down the stairs.
@@merrittanimation7721
Or horse
Well frederick barbarosa died when trying to cross river, pope innocent died before probably better version of his crusade, pedro gave up brazil, German Reich at the gates of moscow lost, england lost to france even after taking half of it, what else is new
@Do0m3rdude1995 why are you even bringging that up here i never talk about that
@@yonathanrakau1783 Pyrrhus died by getting hit with a tile which knocked him from his horse and broke his spine , paralyzing him . History is filled with wacky and uncharacteristic deaths.
>massive plans
>dies at step 1
R E L A T A B L E
‘The Oregon Trail: Abbasid Caliphate’ expansion snuck in at the end there
I feel especially bad for Ibrahim's cousin who got killed because of a positive work performance review.
The fact that the caliphate reached up to Iberia is something people seem to forget all the time, but it’s almost an incredible thing to think about.
You know interestingly enough, the idea of Al-Andalus is very much alive and kicking in the Muslim world. It’s always told as a triumph and then a sad decline, a sad tale that every Muslim kid grows up hearing, imagining the empty mosques turned cathedrals who long to hear the call prayer - the tale of the last Amir who couldn’t save it all. I think it is the Western world that often forgets, but then you think to yourself that Muslims were in the Iberian peninsula for almost a millennia. Anyways just giving you a different perspective, cheers!
Fun fact: The reason why Christopher Columbus' expedition set out in 1492 was because the Spanish queen Isabella wanted to first push the Muslims out of their final stronghold in Grenada.
I like their style of leadership by means of mild suggestion.
A remarkably chill form of imperialism.
>imagining the empty mosques turned cathedrals who long to hear the call prayer
isnt this something from malta? i would know since im half maltese and an egyptian friend once told me theres an egyptian proverb that goes like " as quiet as the minarets (?) of malta"
The dark humour is strong with this one. I really appreciate that.
A mad lad with a mad plan that if it had worked...probably would have made him as famous as Alexander.
Hey, i'm Tunisian 🙃
And his story relfects the stae of us today, we can become better but we give up halfway😔
This guy didn't give up, god gave up on him xD
WELL after tonight we are the craziest peoples on the planet loooool
@@dailydoseofmma1512 why ? 😂😂
@@walterbarillet9456 well a fucking melitary coup led by an elected president xD if that make sense
Carthage delando est
"Get ready for some more niche history!"
Excellent. That's what I'm here for!
Finally Tunisia getting some appreciation
They are not Tunisians, they are Arabs from the Bani Tamim tribe from Najd
@@user-nb4ik8ju5sthey were born and raised and Tunisia, so that makes them 100% Tunisians. Not one of them ever stepped foot in najd 😂😂
I believe the correct expression to an ending like that is "I want my money back"
"Since I'm guessing 9th century Tunisia isn't a topic most of you are familiar with..."
(seethes in Geonim of Kairouan)
This guy's life sounds like he was being controlled by a ck2 player
Complete with the anticlimactic death due to dysentery during a huge military campaign.
Thanks to Ibrahim's wild ride to Sicily the Aghlabids unable to mounted any proper defence after his death causing severe demoralization and in quick sweep the whole North Africa came under the new overlordship, known as Fatimid caliphate. Congrats Ibrahim you still pissing the Abbasids even after you already dead.
The Ck3 character are actually a really good idea for stand-ins of obscure or little mentioned characters.
Wait for Murad III, the real Tunisian ivan the terrible
I don't think he was as bloodthirsty as this one...
@Timur Sayfullah The ottoman murad is arguably the best sultan they ever had.
@@ANSELAbitsxb he meant Murad III Bey of Tunis not ottoman Sultan, the guy was a CKII style lunatic
@@syphaxafricanus he literally had a dagger called "balaa" he'd wake up every now and then and say "balaa is hungry" and go kill a random guy he sees
@@assadbenbrahim I know. This guy killed his children and everybody in his castle, I think that this is a bit more extreme.
The art you did at the beginning of the video of the saracen holding a whip looks similiar to ck3
You should do a video on Justinian II his story is pretty crazy.
was he the emperor that gathered all the Christian bishops that couldn't get along and watch them deck it out?
@@icysaracen3054 he was the one who was overthrown and banished, but then came back only to be overthrown again
@@wheatthins4.222 Despite becoming Real-Life Voldemort
Plot Twist:
No Nose 👃👃👃👃
@@wheatthins4.222 Napoleon?
@@ANSELAbitsxb he was a Byzantine emperor
God, imagine if at that stage Ibrahim was able to make it to North Italy, the Frankish response could’ve led to the crusades happening earlier.
Excellent battle scene animation btw!
I don’t think so. The Crusades weren’t about defending Christendom. They were a byproduct of the Gregorian Reform, with the papacy affirming its power over the lay nobility. They also happened to coincide with the Byzantines’ troubles with a new threat, the Seljuk Turks, and the first crusade only succeeded because of the strife and succession chaos in the Islamic world at the time. The Franks didn’t know much about Islam, and royal power was in decline. Ot’s doubtful there would have been an organized response without ecclesiastical or royal coordination.
It was a pleasant surprise to see my country featured in one of Jack's videos. Thank you for the great work a usual and greetings from Tunisia. And yeah this is not the only time a lunatic ruled over these lands in the past lol.
And that ending is why this is "niche history" instead having this guy grouped with Ivan the Terrible, Genghis Khan, and Attila the Hun.
I mean it would be one for the books had he done it
To be fair to them. Ivan was a capable ruler at first, until his old age turned him paranoid. Genghis destruction of the Middle East was motivated by the unfortunate execution of the Mongol’s envoy. Attila met the same fate, I guess.
10:56 Okay, given the fact that I'm pretty sure that if the Muslims ever managed to land a significant army in Italy, I'd have heard of it, I think it's safe to assume that this guy dies in Sicily
Edit: Yep turns I was completely right to think that lol
Just so you know the most powerful ruler of western Europe Otto ii King of the Holy Roman Empire was defeated by a Muslim raiding party led by Emir Abu'l-Qasim in southern Italy near Crotone at the Battle of Stilo; After a violent clash, a corps of German heavy cavalry destroyed the Muslim centre and pushed towards al-Qasim's guards. The emir was killed, but his troops were not shaken by the loss: they even managed to surround the German troops with a hidden cavalry reserve, slaughtering many of them. According to the historians, casualties were around 4,000. Landulf IV of Benevento, Henry I, Bishop of Augsburg, Günther, Margrave of Merseburg, the Abbot of Fulda and 19 other German counts were among them. The News of the battle sent shockwaves across western Europe across the Alps, reaching as far as Wessex in England signifying the magnitude of the defeat. And this was just a raiding party of few thousand
@@freetube5304 he conquered sicily and south italy if you didn't heard of it does not mean it didnt happen
@@oussemaessafi9754 'Conquered' is a strong word for what happened in Southern Italy: the invaders were usually evicted after no more than a generation, but they kept coming back, so it was contested ground.
You should do a video on Khan Krum of Bulgaria! After all, not everyone can claim to have a drinking cup made from a Roman Emperor!
To be honest, has any historical CZcamsr ever made a video about Bulgarian history at all? Can't recall any. Yes, some have Bulgarians mentioned as a part of larger history, but I haven't seen anyone focusing on Bulgaria specifically.
Not first but I'm happy to watch a video this early and that's all that matters
Well as a Tunisian, I personally encourage every Historical tyrant lovers to read more about Murad/Mourad III Bey of Tunis from 1698 to 1701, he is known as Murad Bou Bala, Bala was the turkish name of some sword(because he used to try it every morning on someone), the legend says that when he came to power after a civil war, he pulled his own uncle (with whom he had some different) out of his grave to shoot him with his musket. He invaded the deylik of Algiers (modern day Algeria) which has been annoying us since half a century beat them and sacked Constantine and them he was about to annex it (there was an ancient claim of Tunisia on both Constantine region and Tripolitania which were part of the country, in fact since Carthage to the Hafsid Dynasty (11th century-1535/1574)) but he was assassinated on the order of the Ottoman Sultan by his leftenant Ibrahim Cherif who ruled Tunisia/Ifriqiya from 1701 to 1705, then some Kulughli officer Hussein Bey Ben Ali (half Turkish half Tunisian) took the throne and established the Husseinid dynasty which ruled as Bey and "Possessor of the Tunisian Kingdom" from 1705 to 1957.
Thanks for the abridged but well detailed context :)
Hey Jack, could you go make a video on Roeland (The commander to Charlemagne) I think you will enjoy it.
Tunisia: are you dead ?
Person: No
Tunisia: Would you like to be?
still holds up to this day
Giving a like just for that 'plan' reference
I’m very excited for the next episode! The Pahlavi Dynasty is very interesting to me. Mostly cause my grand father is a marine and he guarded the American embassy in Iran during the monarchy. Specifically from 1964-1968.
Anyway, I like to make it clear that the Iranian Monarchs were not called Emperors or Empresses. They were more commonly known as Shahanshah or Shah for short. Shahanshah is Farsi (Persian) for King of Kings.But King of Kings is equal in rank to Emperor. King of Kings just sounds cooler in my opinion.
Anyway, very excited for what ever you’re working on next.
Awesome video dude, you’re definitely filling in some gaps about interesting characters that aren’t spoken of much in modern history.
I definitely think Ricimer would be an amazing topic for you to cover... man was a freakin 5th century godfather who basically had his puppet strings over everything in the late empire, seriously he basically was the nail in the coffin of the western empire
Think you could do Olga of Kiev? I think her story is really damn impressive (yeah I have already commented this but nothing wrong with double whammy, right?)
I'd love a series on Badass women, including Olga of Kiev, Pirate girls Mary Read and Ann Bonny, The opera singer and master swordswoman Julie D'Aubigny, Empress Zenobia (Her husband Odenatus is also great material), and Queen Boudikka...
90% of the time you gotta expect at least a lil dysentery to pop up in these medieval stories
His way of going to bagdad was amazing 🤩. It seems he really didn't like shortcuts.
That ending, dude! Killed me almost as much as it did Ibrahim II!
I'm tunisian and i didn't know anything about that badass/psycho ruler. Thank you for the video
Ah finally a new video to watch on loop for the next monty or so as i wait for the next video.
Epic video as always I just wish there were more of them
I was like: wait a minute, why didn't i hear of him if he did such a tour of force? Aaaaaand he's dead
Your videos are really fun, thank you!
Hey Jack Rackham, love your videos man, you're probably the most underrated history youtuber in this entire platform. Keep it up man!
I'd like to suggest Sultan Babullah of Ternate, North Maluku (Present day Indonesia) as the subject to cover in your next video, to add to your list of seriously impressive and influencial, yet mostly unknown, Sultans series of videos.
I just realized that the picture at 10:45 is the Unsullied from Game of Thrones and I'm LIVING FOR IT!!
Appropriate really.
We probably don't know what these early slave soldiers would have looked like.
I've read that The Visigoths may have been the pioneers of this surprising development in the Mediterranean world.
This was a great one Jack, the jokes in this one really hit
Keep up the great work!
i love these obscure and niche topics. Keep it up! :)
There's a parallel universe in which Ibrahim II shredded his way through Europe and into Mesopotamia.
Take me to that universe.
I hadn't realized that everyone was scared of Tunisia in 900 AD prior to watching this video. Learn something new everyday from history CZcams channels! 😉 And yes, I had pizza for breakfast. 🍕 Okay, and also a donut... 🍩
what
@@coltonbates629 Exactly!
uh ok
@@Scourgeoftengri Someone had to say it.
You, sir, get a like. Not only for the (as usual) excellent video, but for your use of Le Dance Macabre in it. A fine choice.
"why the head"
when the massive history nerd channel talking about niche conquerors doesn't know about head cheese.
WHAT?
Fun fact Ibrahim’s descendants would become the Fatimid caliphs in Egypt and history house productions made a video about him
But the Fatimids toppled the Aghlabids, how could it be, that the Fatimids are Ibrahim’s descendants when the Fatimids were running the secret network in the middle east, AND toppled his state ? I think you mean his Successors to the throne!
False, Fatimids aren't even Arabs to be his descendants.
Completely different people.
@@Umayyadazi the fatimid dynasty was definitely arab , the only ones claiming otherwise are usually those with a religious bias
Ibrahim: I am ready to win this game!
Game: You have died of dysentery. Game Over.
More than a thousand years after Ibrahim's death, hearing about his life made me dizzy.
JR, can I call ya JR? Thanks, I love history. Have my whole life JR & your totally irreverent take on things makes you one of my favorite history story tellers! Keep up da great work JR!
When you're early and the spicy comments haven't set in
Imagine what would have happened if Ibrahim's campaign succeeded.
I was expecting him to successfully conquer Sicily but then getting stopped at southern Italy.
The momentum was going to be stopped anyways thanks to the heavy resistance they were going to face.
@@hukama6911
They sacked Rome though...
@@-3696 thats another story man not Ibrahim II
@@-3696 At this point, sacking Rome is basically a requirement for a conqueror.
This dudes whole life sounds like a CK3 game
Love this channel
What a legendary take this was damn!
Yay welcome back to January Rackham!
You make good videos, Keep it up.
Channels like this……apparently turned out to be one of the humorous highlights of the Pandemic….Keep ‘em coming!
That opening is on point.
I am watching this in May.
You are the master at ending videos! 😂
Hell yeah love the obscure stuff
Al-Hakim bi-Amr Allah: Who are you?
Ibrahim II: I'm you but more insane
the first dude started a whole religion and literally disappeared so idk
That pun was indeed well executed. Kudos!
One of your best videos so far!
Probably one of the most unreliable rulers in history.
Thank you for putting the sword in Azula. That was a nice touch.
The art for this was top shelf
I love the funny way you tell the story
You should do a video on the life of czar Simeon the great. See that big Bulgaria in that map, he is gonna make it even bigger
good ending gave me a sensible chuckle
I love this channel
This is fire
we need more like this video and much of ❤ to u
The keikaku reference. Love to see it
Loving the using of CKIII for art
this kinda stuff is why I love to be here
Magellan TV is the MVP for sponsoring u 👍
1:26 Turkey makes a brand new Turkey
Its quite bizar how many military conquests have big names dying from dysentery or just dying of sickness afterwards.
When your water supply is contaminated by horse poop...
Took me some time to realize why you had picked dense macabre to play in the background
Stable video👍
Nobody noticed the Emirate of Sicily there? It was Arab-Norman culturally speaking. As in, it was Norman AND Arab culurally speaking. It had Muslim Vikings, that's what I'm saying. How's that for a crossover episode?
I'm liking the longer vids
This is the only of two thing that I will know about Tunisia in my life, the second one is that they got BTFO’d by the romans
I know you put in so much time and effort in your videos but can you do some videos on Malay history(if you have the time)? I would really appreciate it.
7:48 Fitting considering the region this all took place in