You Don't Know the Real King Arthur | The Life & Times of Arthur & Lancelot

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    Samuel Kim covering Yuki Kajiura - You are my King / Rule the Battlefield
    Kevin Macleod - Teller of Tales

Komentáře • 724

  • @JackRackam
    @JackRackam  Před 2 lety +137

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    • @johnfoelster507
      @johnfoelster507 Před 2 lety

      So who's the Tudor era dude you're using to represent Malory?

    • @JonManProductions
      @JonManProductions Před 2 lety +2

      Too late! some lady in red already dragged me down that rabbit hole several years ago! and she very sarcastic.

    • @GeldtheGelded
      @GeldtheGelded Před 2 lety

      I actually did a presentation about king arthur in school today! What a coincidence

    • @JackRackam
      @JackRackam  Před 2 lety +6

      @@johnfoelster507 Hopefully nobody! We try to use portraits with unknown subjects to represent someone who doesn't have a high quality portrait of their own

    • @brokenbridge6316
      @brokenbridge6316 Před 2 lety

      @@JackRackam---Nice video. Question: Out of curiosity, when making these video's, Do you have people helping you or are you a one-man show?

  • @jamiethiele460
    @jamiethiele460 Před 2 lety +1062

    All the knights of the round table are Mary Sues progressively un-sued by the next author to make room for their own Mary Sue. And I’m here for it the entire way.

    • @Jack-0-lantern
      @Jack-0-lantern Před 2 lety +99

      I think the only knight that made it out of that process unscathed was Galahad and that might have just been because he was a very recent addition to the lore and story.

    • @ariavachier-lagravech.6910
      @ariavachier-lagravech.6910 Před 2 lety +123

      Quoting a comment I once saw on OSP channel. The canon of King Arthur is basically a fanfiction of a fanfiction of a fanfiction of a fanfiction. Which makes every fanfiction of King Arthur to be canon even the one where King Arthur is a girl participating in murder death kill tournament to get the holy grail.

    • @phantasosxgames8488
      @phantasosxgames8488 Před 2 lety +58

      @@ariavachier-lagravech.6910 jokes on you , that same fanfic had the male King Arthur fighting the Beast of Apocalypse , which was commanded by a loli

    • @morganrobinson8042
      @morganrobinson8042 Před 2 lety +28

      ​@@Jack-0-lantern Well, that and him being a morally innocent cinnamon bun and also definitionally a virgin, he only appealed to a very specific archetype of knighthood. Lancelot kicked enough ass that you had to nerf him, Gawain had a cool adventure story, and Arthur was the king, so you had to downplay them to get space in the narrative. Galahad sidelines himself if you're not already sold on an uber-pure Christian ascetic.

    • @kilerog
      @kilerog Před 2 lety +21

      @@ariavachier-lagravech.6910 Given that the only written bits of early Arthurian lore we have is "Arthur and Mordred fought and perished at Camlann," with it not even being clear if they fought with or against each other, it makes sense that everything after is basically a fanfic. There's a LOT of stuff you can fill in or interpret however you want. And who will say differently, the oralists? Pssh, who's publishing THEM?

  • @Scillamar
    @Scillamar Před 2 lety +1078

    Arthurian legend is really just centuries of writers adding their Mary Sue self inserts into the story. First Arthur is overshadowed by his younger, cooler nephew Gawain who was born in a magic grove and gets his power from the sun. Then Gawain gets overshadowed by Lancelot who cucks the king and singlehandedly saves England more times than one can count. And if that isn't enough he gets overshadowed by Galahad, who is essentially the second coming of Jesus but wielding a sword.
    It's great.

    • @JackRackam
      @JackRackam  Před 2 lety +250

      Man if that isn't the truest thing in this comments section

    • @edgardox.feliciano3127
      @edgardox.feliciano3127 Před 2 lety +26

      You mean a big shield that also serves as the Round Table itself.

    • @phantasosxgames8488
      @phantasosxgames8488 Před 2 lety +9

      @@edgardox.feliciano3127 and a fetishist of armored girls.

    • @edgardox.feliciano3127
      @edgardox.feliciano3127 Před 2 lety +6

      @@phantasosxgames8488 I was talking about Galahad's shield

    • @jumperwilli7770
      @jumperwilli7770 Před 2 lety +25

      @@JackRackam oh boy you aren’t ready for christian de troyes Parzival, the guy literraly lose 0 times, kick several knights and then it cuts to an unfinished Gauvin story, sadly the author died and the church failed to complete the story.

  • @MrLFJ7
    @MrLFJ7 Před 2 lety +1025

    King Arthur is like Gilgamesh but with more fan fiction

    • @dudemevill1699
      @dudemevill1699 Před 2 lety +45

      I think the word your looking for is Tumblr.

    • @SeymoreSparda
      @SeymoreSparda Před 2 lety +13

      Reminds me of the sixth fanfic tablet

    • @Fruzhin5483
      @Fruzhin5483 Před 2 lety +4

      It's the other way around brah

    • @chenoaholdstock3507
      @chenoaholdstock3507 Před 2 lety +58

      Counter point: Gilgamesh is Arthur, but so old we forgot what is fan fiction and what isn't.

    • @SeymoreSparda
      @SeymoreSparda Před 2 lety +7

      @@chenoaholdstock3507 Were there ancient Arthur-Ocelot shipping? Have to emphasize "ancient" here, as modern fangirls (heck, even boys) can get too crazy with that shit.

  • @TransSappho
    @TransSappho Před 2 lety +802

    I wish you’d mentioned the fact that Lancelot is a French author’s oc who just got stuck to the canon

    • @martijnstuart95
      @martijnstuart95 Před 2 lety +95

      Lancelot is also so obviously a French name and not a Brittonic one

    • @ariavachier-lagravech.6910
      @ariavachier-lagravech.6910 Před 2 lety +138

      And a lot of the other knights is also someone else's OC. Which mean King Arthur canon is basically fanfiction of a fanfiction. Which makes every King Arthur derivative works to be canon including the one from Fate series.

    • @TransSappho
      @TransSappho Před 2 lety +66

      @@ariavachier-lagravech.6910 true but Lancelot is one of the most blatant. A lot of the others feel well integrated(except Galahad, he’s shoehorned in way too blatantly) but Lancelot sticks out like a sore thumb as the unparalleled warrior to a crazy degree

    • @cgt3704
      @cgt3704 Před 2 lety +15

      There is also a story that tells Lancelot got his name because he freed a castle called the Dolorous Gard and renamed it into JOYus Gard (such a cliche). And the castle is also where he hid from Arthur when the latter hunted him down, at which point it was renamed back into Dolorous Gard, oh the irony.

    • @NoRegs30
      @NoRegs30 Před 2 lety +23

      @@TransSappho
      To be fair, Galahad was made specifically so he could make Lancelot look bad with the whole holy grail thing since his affair with Guinevere was seen as a bad thing at that time

  • @ChessedGamon
    @ChessedGamon Před 2 lety +386

    The way this resembles a rambling 13 year old's OC plot online is actually kinda adorable to me.

    • @akramgimmini8165
      @akramgimmini8165 Před 2 lety +12

      Based

    • @luxborealis
      @luxborealis Před 2 lety +26

      The Arthur mythos is basically that, but it’s the kid’s brother’s girlfriend’s dentist’s retelling of the story, with OC do not steal-s added in every step.

  • @TheSci-fiAnarchist42
    @TheSci-fiAnarchist42 Před 2 lety +487

    "Became an Anarcho-Syndicalist commune for a while..."
    Love the Monty Python reference. 👍😉

    • @electricangel4488
      @electricangel4488 Před 2 lety +25

      Well what yo do if the lady isnt giving out magic swords anymore

    • @akramgimmini8165
      @akramgimmini8165 Před 2 lety +10

      Noice

    • @Kyle-qd2sy
      @Kyle-qd2sy Před 2 lety +27

      Well that’s what happens when strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is your basis for a system of government

    • @jensimaster
      @jensimaster Před 2 lety +10

      You're fooling yourself, why live in a dictatorship!?

    • @Dystopia1111
      @Dystopia1111 Před 2 lety +21

      Now we see the violence inherent in the system!

  • @Skycroft1000
    @Skycroft1000 Před 2 lety +392

    Do keep in mind that this is _Mallory's_ Lancelot, though. Granted, Mallory is regarded as the definitive version, but ultimately no version is 'canon'.

    • @CollinMcLean
      @CollinMcLean Před 2 lety +15

      Especially since his version is at least 1,000 years after the fact.

    • @giovannilloretsorribas2836
      @giovannilloretsorribas2836 Před 2 lety +65

      And Lancelot is literally some guy's Original Character Do Not Steal

    • @iggyzeta9755
      @iggyzeta9755 Před 2 lety +38

      @@giovannilloretsorribas2836 It's worse, it's a French Donut Steel Marty Stu who cucks the British king (and it's portrayed as a good thing) and is the bestest knight in Britain. I love Bernard Cornwell's depiction of Lancelot though.

    • @RelativelyBest
      @RelativelyBest Před 2 lety +22

      @@iggyzeta9755 Hey, at least he wasn't _literally Jesus,_ like his son.

    • @zigedelic3909
      @zigedelic3909 Před 2 lety +4

      @@CollinMcLean I think it would be more correct to say up to 1,000 years after the fact. Go any earlier and you're in Roman Britain

  • @MLaserHistory
    @MLaserHistory Před 2 lety +576

    I am going to be honest, for a moment there I thought you actually payed someone to make an anime style intro for your channel :D

    • @JackRackam
      @JackRackam  Před 2 lety +179

      One day... one day!!

    • @leplus8eehc
      @leplus8eehc Před 2 lety +13

      Please!!

    • @Starthclyde
      @Starthclyde Před 2 lety +13

      Unbiased history is the king of those

    • @byzantineboi8345
      @byzantineboi8345 Před 2 lety +1

      This is Jack Rackam not dovahhatty (to be fair he don’t do the anime intros anymore if you know who he is)

    • @Yenlag
      @Yenlag Před 2 lety

      @Caleb OKAY there's Arthur proto too

  • @LoudRevised
    @LoudRevised Před 2 lety +130

    “A bunch of virgins having lunch together at a round table”
    Wow, you just described my friend group in a nutshell.

  • @Zepherus
    @Zepherus Před 2 lety +873

    Geoffrey of Monmouth: My version is so out there - Merlin steals Stonehenge from some Irish giants!
    Thomas Malory: Hold my Disney villain incest child...

    • @usersixtyfive7840
      @usersixtyfive7840 Před 2 lety +11

      I love Your videos too......

    • @Psychol-Snooper
      @Psychol-Snooper Před 2 lety +20

      The History of British Kings by Geoffrey of Monmouth is not really history. It's more like where fairy tales meet propaganda High Middle Ages style. Definitely worth a read!

    • @timothyzappa2828
      @timothyzappa2828 Před 2 lety +1

      Not gonna lie I'm picturing a guy holding out a baby in a suit of armor onesy with a post it not saying "incest child" slapped on it's back.

    • @morganrobinson8042
      @morganrobinson8042 Před 2 lety +3

      @@Psychol-Snooper Because that is how most history was in the Middle Ages, when it was functionally impossible to fact-check, genealogy was a political tool capable of demolishing nations, and magic and miracles were something people actually expected to show up every so often. All European history was like that, to one extent or another.
      History being written by the victors was not considered a flaw in this time, it was a feature. The narrative of the past was a tool of justification above being a method of understanding, they would not understand the need for veracity over personal political utility at all.
      And the distinction between belief and fact was basically nonexistent. The wild stuff in history was not scrutinized, it was accepted. Either because of genuine belief or political expedience.
      History of British Kings was most fantastical in that it endeavored to chart out a lineage of rulership continuity at all, not that it included magic and filled in the gaps with fake people. The fact that it had a message reinforcing the current regime and was filled with stuff like giants and wizards is just how the past was recorded then.

    • @Psychol-Snooper
      @Psychol-Snooper Před 2 lety +4

      @@morganrobinson8042 I feel Geoffrey of Monmouth was outlier. Compared to notables such as Gregory of Tours, William of Malmesbury, even the Venerable Bede it seems to me he was more of a story teller. Yes, medieval historians included miraculous religious apocrypha, but nothing (that I can recall) was similar to the veritable fan fiction of Geoffrey.
      I have not read him since I was a teen, but to me it seems he just filled in any blank with whatever suited his fancy, and I suspect his contemporaries well know it was historical fiction.
      If you can't recall any noteworthy medieval historians with similar proclivities I'd be interested.
      Cheers!

  • @dominikrudolfettrich2556
    @dominikrudolfettrich2556 Před 2 lety +312

    "The Life & Times of King Arthur but it's actually just Lancelot."

    • @iansupremo6762
      @iansupremo6762 Před 2 lety +35

      this version was written by a French guy who wanted to bash on England's awesome story- it's why Lancelot is French. not even kidding, look it up.

    • @ariavachier-lagravech.6910
      @ariavachier-lagravech.6910 Před 2 lety +14

      Lancelot only purpose is to become French Gary Stu while ruining a functional British marriage. Prove me wrong.

    • @dominikrudolfettrich2556
      @dominikrudolfettrich2556 Před 2 lety +8

      @@ariavachier-lagravech.6910 I'm pretty sure that Arthur was sleeping around and didn't have a good relationship with his wife even in English sources.
      Could be wrong tho

    • @woaddragon
      @woaddragon Před 2 lety +4

      @@dominikrudolfettrich2556 that is correct. In one british story, Arthurs slept with one of the married wife of one of his Enemies, and proff. Sir Gawain.

  • @warlordofbritannia
    @warlordofbritannia Před 2 lety +129

    Just goes to show you, it’s not really an Arthurian legend until Morgana uses knowledge of Merlin’s pedophilia to poison him
    Or until Arthur’s incest kid somehow turns the kingdom against his dad-uncle
    Or until Arthur uses Merlin to make him ugly so he can creep on Guinevere by pretending to be a gardener
    Or until Gawain’s anime powers turn off because it’s afternoon now

  • @random3x70
    @random3x70 Před 2 lety +110

    The king arthur mythology is basically lots of scholars and priests writing fanfiction for the OG King Arthur story. With their OC's that aren't mary sues because look at how handsome Lancelot is.

  • @starwars90001
    @starwars90001 Před 2 lety +467

    King Arthur is historical fan fiction and it's awesome, from the author's self inert that is Lancer to the love tringle to King Arthur defeating every kingdom surrounding England and Rome. It's British power fantasy mixed with trashy love novels, I love it.

    • @morganrobinson8042
      @morganrobinson8042 Před 2 lety +8

      There are at least four layers of Authors adding OCs to the round table ex nihilo. Lancelot is the standout, but pretty much every few centuries a new idea of knighthood would come along and be characterized by a new guy nobody had ever heard of. Gawain from that movie that came out a bit ago was one of these, so was Galahad. Heck Mordred probably counts.
      It's a rabbit hole.

    • @luxborealis
      @luxborealis Před 2 lety +4

      England sailing across the sea invading everyone is the most realistic part in there.

  • @beaniefunnygamer7225
    @beaniefunnygamer7225 Před 2 lety +212

    Jack Rackam: "I will drag you by the ear and you will listen to me talk about King Arthur"
    Me: "But Jack I want story about the Ottoman Empire"
    Jack Rackam: "You listen to this video or the next video will take place in the 21th Century"
    Me: 🤐
    Joking aside this needs to be anime

    • @gamingforever9121
      @gamingforever9121 Před 2 lety +9

      Already is somewhat fate stay night covers Arthur but as a girl 😂

    • @aggrodkreg4321
      @aggrodkreg4321 Před 2 lety +3

      @@gamingforever9121 is it as batshit insane as this video was?

    • @blurb9319
      @blurb9319 Před 2 lety +10

      @@aggrodkreg4321 If say if this video is a 10 in terms of insanity, then fate is a good 7. If you’re interested start with fate zero (basically the prequel to fate stay night)

    • @aggrodkreg4321
      @aggrodkreg4321 Před 2 lety +2

      @@blurb9319 7 I can work with. Thanks, fren

    • @TheMinecraftFellowship
      @TheMinecraftFellowship Před 2 lety +10

      @@blurb9319 Found the person who only skimmed the surface of the Fate franchise. Believe me Fate Grand Order alone cranks this shit up to 15 and that’s just act 1 without the events

  • @gabrielaubry1334
    @gabrielaubry1334 Před 2 lety +72

    Wait! You're telling me...that Le Morte d'Arthur is actually just a GIANT LANCELOT WANK-FIC!?!

  • @Conorp77
    @Conorp77 Před 2 lety +200

    For me, it is simple. For all the legends and bullshit that came after, whomever led the Britons at Mount Badon, whatever he was like and whatever his real name was, that is the man we now call Arthur.

    • @GallowglassVT
      @GallowglassVT Před 2 lety +21

      That's actually pretty badass tbh.

    • @gabrielciambelli6861
      @gabrielciambelli6861 Před 2 lety +10

      Sadly Gildas was too busy being angry at the Saxons to tell us who it was.

    • @luxborealis
      @luxborealis Před 2 lety +3

      I like the Lucius Artorius version of Arthur.

    • @boarfaceswinejaw4516
      @boarfaceswinejaw4516 Před 2 lety +19

      @@gabrielciambelli6861
      "tell us who Arthur was, old man!
      "arthur was... his name was..."
      "Just tell us, damnit! before its too late"
      "Arthur was.... Goddamn fucking saxons" *dies*

    • @PobortzaPl
      @PobortzaPl Před 2 lety +2

      And for ne his Knights of Round Table are actually Sarmatian heavy lancers
      One if them is Hannibal Lecter, the other - Titus Pullo, next one - Horatio Hornblower and last but not least is Will Scarlet.
      And they of course had cool ass late medieval plate armours

  • @Jimbo55151
    @Jimbo55151 Před 2 lety +79

    Between this, the plot of “Great Expectations”, and how in “Emma” she gets so embarrassed her nose starts bleeding.
    Are we SURE the British didn’t invent most anime tropes?

    • @the-Albino-Rhino
      @the-Albino-Rhino Před 2 lety +26

      Hmm. Nation going through rapid and weird social change about 50-100 years after a major military loss and A BOOMING ECONOMY RIGHT AFTERWARDS?
      Excuse me while I trash my old term paper in favor of this new one based off a youtube comment

    • @Jimbo55151
      @Jimbo55151 Před 2 lety +18

      @@the-Albino-Rhino Back in the day I wrote a grad school term paper based off a tweet by Jesse Cox about how WOW’s story kept having to include faction wars even if it made no sense because fans wanted it and what that says about what factionalism does to the mind.
      What I’m saying is you have this random commenters full backing to do this.

    • @jamesheidt8980
      @jamesheidt8980 Před 2 lety +8

      Jonathan Harker in Dracula is basically a Shonen protagonist in some versions so it checks out

    • @Jimbo55151
      @Jimbo55151 Před 2 lety

      @@jamesheidt8980 Hey name kindred!!

    • @whathell6t
      @whathell6t Před 2 lety +5

      @@Jimbo55151
      Nope! Absolutely not.
      Britain invented Tokusatsu tropes, not anime tropes.
      After all, British theater along Hollywood culture influenced the Tokusatsu medium vid USA Occupation of Japan (1945-1954) which later Tokusatsu medium pass it down to it's little brothers: the anime medium and the modern J-Comp. Literature.

  • @pavlevrabac1289
    @pavlevrabac1289 Před 2 lety +58

    "Come on, it's not like he can beat Goku."
    Ah, I see you are a man of culture.

  • @OHBGEEK4HIRE1998
    @OHBGEEK4HIRE1998 Před 2 lety +389

    OK I’ll be honest. I am mildly disappointed that Mordred isn’t depicted as a cute blonde aggressive tomboy

    • @colonel1003
      @colonel1003 Před 2 lety +9

      soy

    • @jacksonbowns1087
      @jacksonbowns1087 Před 2 lety +111

      @@colonel1003 Hey, cute Blonde Tomboy Mordred is best Mordred. She lived her entire life as a pawn of her psychotic, incestuous mother, mortally wounded and was then slain by her female father, and then teamed up with a Japanese necromancer to fight and kill a Syrian queen in Romania, in the Hanging Gardens of Babylon.

    • @EzGainz9877
      @EzGainz9877 Před 2 lety +4

      @@jacksonbowns1087 soy

    • @MrDemonWorm
      @MrDemonWorm Před 2 lety +33

      Those dudes scared of beans!

    • @colonel1003
      @colonel1003 Před 2 lety +4

      degenerate weebs

  • @shawnconway6009
    @shawnconway6009 Před 2 lety +23

    I love that King Arthur is just three levels of fanfiction writers inserting their own OCs. You have the original version which is historical fan fiction about this amazing king guy, and then Mallory was like 'actually there's also this other guy named Lancelot and he's amazing and beautiful and everyone loves him,' and then like four hundred years later someone was like 'actually Lancelot was sinful and evil and terrible, and this new guy I just made up named Gallahad is even better and more pure and loved and also he meets Jesus'

  • @USBearForce
    @USBearForce Před 2 lety +38

    Geoffrey of Monmouth, scribbling at his desk in 12th century England, composing a literary work from fragments of Welsh poetry and his own imagination, stops and muses, "I wonder if 900 years from now in some country so far to the east you must pass through all of Byzantium, Persia, and Cathay merely to find a ship to take you to its shores, they will read my magnum opus and say... 'But what if Arthur and Mordred were 10/10 would-definitely-bang waifus?"

  • @legateelizabeth
    @legateelizabeth Před 2 lety +22

    "Lancelot was somebody's OC donut steel. Do try to hold in your surprise."
    - Overly Sarcastic Red

  • @AnimeUproar
    @AnimeUproar Před 2 lety +16

    Finally someone explained it in a way that makes sense to me!

  • @YossarianVanDriver
    @YossarianVanDriver Před 2 lety +124

    Or, if you're me, you like the extra-wild-fantasy versions of the original Welsh stories from like 800, where Arthur and co. are this weird supernatural adventuring party who roam around fighting giant pigs and invading the Otherworld.

    • @starwars90001
      @starwars90001 Před 2 lety +14

      Is there a book I can read for that?

    • @iggyzeta9755
      @iggyzeta9755 Před 2 lety +10

      Send versions please.

    • @warlordofbritannia
      @warlordofbritannia Před 2 lety +16

      Literal DnD shit

    • @thebrutusmars
      @thebrutusmars Před 2 lety +5

      Please share with us how to find this

    • @johng7003
      @johng7003 Před 2 lety +8

      Isn't that the "Y Goddodin"or am I wrong?
      Anyways here's a sauce to one or similar of these kinds of stories,for anyone asking.

  • @Xel_Rendwyn
    @Xel_Rendwyn Před 2 lety +6

    The Fate intro had me rolling. Love you man. This shit is hilarious.

  • @ianflowers7328
    @ianflowers7328 Před 2 lety +18

    I love that Uther's throne room is the throne room of Naboo.

  • @ZCid47
    @ZCid47 Před 2 lety +14

    Arthurian legend is a basket of tropes, plot lines and stereotypes that is a weird way mesh together to make a compelling word.

  • @lrx001
    @lrx001 Před 2 lety +37

    I have had a love for Arthurian lore ever since I watched BBC's Merlin. Love this video

  • @SMBeech
    @SMBeech Před 2 lety +31

    You should have made this a full-length feature. I want more.

  • @eldorados_lost_searcher
    @eldorados_lost_searcher Před 2 lety +20

    Jack Rackham: I'm GOING to tell you about why King Arthur and the surrounding lore is AWESOME, and you're going to listen, because I did NOT read Thomas Mallory for you to just ignore it, OKAY!?
    Me: Don't threaten me with a good time.

  • @steroidbaggins2936
    @steroidbaggins2936 Před 2 lety +23

    I must say Mr. Rackham, you never miss.
    Also evr since I found out that the Arthur is supposed to be a Celtic Briton I can only imagine him as a plaid wearing ginger with a large mustache and a big sword.

    • @JackRackam
      @JackRackam  Před 2 lety +6

      That is hands down the best way to picture Arthur XD

  • @Caniewaak
    @Caniewaak Před 2 lety +57

    God damn it Jack, you and the bloody Fate references.
    Mordred still best girl.

  • @silenceisgolden6097
    @silenceisgolden6097 Před 2 lety +12

    "We are men in shiny hats with pointy metal sticks."- One of King Arthur's knights, probably.

  • @eazy8579
    @eazy8579 Před 2 lety +38

    Tbh the fact that most versions of King Arthur make them all run around in plate armor and shit but feels like they need to make the characters go around without helmets so we can see who is who bugs me; it would be ridiculously cool to see them running around in 5th century armor would probably look a lot better and they could be more specific to each character; those helmets were pretty much all open faced too, so we’d still get to see their faces while they are all armored up

    • @woaddragon
      @woaddragon Před 2 lety +7

      There was a early 2004 movie name king Arthur movie ( starting Clive Owen) that intrepted Arthur as a Roman british officier fighting against the celts and later the Saxons. I thought it was pretty cool.

    • @eazy8579
      @eazy8579 Před 2 lety

      @@woaddragon pretty neat idea, but it seems kinda cheap

    • @woaddragon
      @woaddragon Před 2 lety

      @@eazy8579 it has been a while since I seen the movie, and I know it didnt have the biggest budget, but it a different take then say, Gawian and the green knight.

    • @eazy8579
      @eazy8579 Před 2 lety

      @@woaddragon I’m going to see if I can find it on Netflix

    • @woaddragon
      @woaddragon Před 2 lety

      @@eazy8579 Good tell me what you think. 2😀😀😀

  • @teogonzalez7957
    @teogonzalez7957 Před 2 lety +28

    You didn’t even mention Arthur’s evil sister who is also a sorceress and also probably part fairy as well, who hated gwenevire because she caught her sleeping around with some dude and told the whole kingdom.

    • @cgt3704
      @cgt3704 Před 2 lety +11

      You mean Morgan Le Fay ? Yeah im also disapointed but what can you do ?
      Fun fact, there is a version where Arthur found out about Guineveres affair from Morgan. Not because of vengeance, cause at that point she redeemed herself and stopped fighting arthur, but because he snitched on Guinevere because she is aparently a gossiper.

    • @silentnight6810
      @silentnight6810 Před 2 lety +1

      @@cgt3704 lancelot was dumb enought to paint morgan's entire dungeon wall withe the affair

    • @cgt3704
      @cgt3704 Před 2 lety +1

      @@silentnight6810 i know. Lancelot may be Jojo incarnate but he thinks like Goku

  • @ryankasch5561
    @ryankasch5561 Před 2 lety +44

    If you've gone and done Arthur you should also do the Alexander Romance as a standalone video. It's a great source of wacky post Soviet Russian pseudo historians rewriting history

  • @thelandoftea9995
    @thelandoftea9995 Před 2 lety +12

    You think this is a wild ride? Just you wait until you stumble down the rabbit hole of Greek mythology. So glad you decided to cover this

    • @johng7003
      @johng7003 Před 2 lety +3

      In all honesty literally most if not all mythologies and religions have crazy,messed up stuff and stories. Epicness,incest,rape,murder,war and gore exists even in Norse/Germanic mythology,Celtic,Maya,Aztec even the goddamm Bible or Hindu religion have many of this stuff and I'm saying this as a (not totally fanatic or faithful)Christian. And let's not talk about Chinese and Japanese mythologies and religion because oooh boy it gets awesome but also freaky down the road. No religion or mythology is or will ever be 100% percent everything good and happy or normal by today's standards. But that's what also makes all of these amazing to read and learn or believe in and sometimes relatable even after so many centuries.

  • @ianyork2655
    @ianyork2655 Před 2 lety +32

    Hi Jack. Yeah Arthur's story if you combined all the stories together can be a lot hence why there is no canon you basically have the star wars legends universe set during the end of the classical age.

  • @PHENOXSPARTAN
    @PHENOXSPARTAN Před 2 lety +25

    It’s absolutely hilarious the amount of fan fiction this really is. It’s even got fanfiction of fanfiction. This is just an elaborate wet dream of England wanting Europe.

  • @AudieHolland
    @AudieHolland Před 2 lety +40

    There's also the rather plausible theory that the "Arthur" stories were created as an 'anti dote' to the "Karel ende Elegast" tales.
    Somehow fitting, these stories were written in Brabant, which today is both part of Belgium ('Brabant') and The Netherlands ('Noord-Brabant').
    Karel is the historical king Charlemagne.
    Elegast is his most loyal, most noble knight who will seek out injustice and, with the aid of God and Charlemagne, always defeats the enemies of his king and his God.
    These stories are remarkable but also
    remarkably booooring.
    So in steps Geoffrey of Monmouth, allegedly in debtor's prison at the time for rape and larcency and being a drunk.
    He thinks of a way to get out of debtor's prison and decides to *rewrite* the oh so boring 'Karel ende Elegast stories.'
    Out goes God.
    In goes incest, rape, murder, infanticide and total war and fratricide.
    It becomes a bestseller.

    • @Scillamar
      @Scillamar Před 2 lety +6

      The more apt term would be Carolingian cycle of chivalric romance or "the matter of France". Karel ende Elegante is only one of the many stories in the wider Corolingian tradition. The most famous of them is probably the Song of Roland, where the rear guard of Charlemagne's army and his favourite knight, Sir Roland, is ambushed and slain by the Moors while crossing the Pyrenees following their conquests in Spain.
      Also Elegast was not exactly Charlemagne's favourite or most noble knight. The whole premise of the story is that Elegast was banished by Charlemagne for thievery and redeems himself by helping Charlemagne in a quest and saving him from the plot of a traitorous nobleman.

    • @AudieHolland
      @AudieHolland Před 2 lety

      @@Scillamar Point is, those tales were boring. So I only read one or two that we had to read for Dutch Class.

    • @teecee1827
      @teecee1827 Před 2 lety +2

      Okay, but the knights of Charlemagne's stories got us the Song of Roland, Orlando Inamorato and Furioso, and most of all...
      Astolfo

    • @caillewellyn7342
      @caillewellyn7342 Před 3 měsíci

      Except Arthur is in the Mabinogion? Geoffrey of Monmouths version is a bastardised Anglicised version

  • @johng7003
    @johng7003 Před 2 lety +14

    King Arthur's tale and the Arthurian Legend(multiverse?) in general are indeed such good pieces of either historical fiction or straight out fan fiction. I really wonder how the real 5th-6th century King Arthur or Ambrosius Aurelianus ( if he or they were real) would react to all this crazy "franchise" of his/theirs.

  • @katsomeday1
    @katsomeday1 Před 2 lety +14

    For Arthurian legend, I love Culhwych and Olwen from the Mabinogion. It's a bit difficult, but the Arthur's court list is hilariously long and full of names that were probably 12th century pop culture references.

  • @ronaldmcronald8611
    @ronaldmcronald8611 Před 2 lety +11

    "No one gives a shit about King Arthur"
    *Fate fans would like to know your location*

  • @texmartinez220
    @texmartinez220 Před 2 lety +56

    Fanfiction could never...
    Anime wishes...
    Telenovelas tried...

    • @SeymoreSparda
      @SeymoreSparda Před 2 lety +9

      Pfft! It was ALL fanfiction. The true Arthur was probably amongst the first 3 generations of Celtic Britons who fought the invasion of the Anglo-Saxons.

    • @texmartinez220
      @texmartinez220 Před 2 lety +4

      We love our Mary Sue

    • @marseldagistani1989
      @marseldagistani1989 Před 2 lety +2

      @@SeymoreSparda or based off of some Roman warlord

    • @SeymoreSparda
      @SeymoreSparda Před 2 lety +1

      @@marseldagistani1989 Or like, the in-between? A Celtic Briton warlord that was loyal to the Romans' way of life, even after the Romans had left the island? Probably got the upringing of a Celt that lived in a Roman-built settlement, to the south of the Hadrian Wall? Kinda like Cheruschi's Arminius that didn't rebel?

    • @marseldagistani1989
      @marseldagistani1989 Před 2 lety

      @@SeymoreSparda What was that guy's name
      Something Lucius Artorius Castus something.
      But your idea also sounds plausible.

  • @crazycrackinchick
    @crazycrackinchick Před 2 lety +12

    Dude, try the faerie queene next- it’s literally a medieval Star Wars

  • @000Dragon50000
    @000Dragon50000 Před 2 lety +6

    Also one thing english peopel often forget is *King arthur was a celt who fought AGAINST the anglo-saxon invaders.* It's so ironic watching them act like he's a cultural hero with any relevance to them when he's simply not. The rest of britain, sure, but not the english.

  • @insearchofprometheus
    @insearchofprometheus Před 2 lety +8

    Imagine there actually being some random Welsh warlord that this was all inspired by, and showing him all of this 1500 or so odd years later. And then showing him the Japanese take.

  • @sacrieur7899
    @sacrieur7899 Před 2 lety +4

    "6 seasons and movie "... i see you are a man of culture ;)

  • @ToastieBRRRN
    @ToastieBRRRN Před 2 lety +7

    The AC Brotherhood knight picture being used as the knights of the round is funny to see. I think that image is like the one most used assets I keep seeing cropping in CZcams medieval history videos every now and then.

  • @CiarnaK
    @CiarnaK Před 2 lety +6

    I was dying of laughter from minute one of this video! Courtesy of your comparisons, I now understand why King Arthur retellings are so popular in Japan (according to academic sources I found during my M.A.). Many thanks!

  • @kathrynblakeley9823
    @kathrynblakeley9823 Před 2 lety +6

    I’m always down to hear people argue that Thomas Malory’s version is fan fiction because it is and more people need to know that Lancelot is fan fiction (I don’t know if Arthur was real but this is definitely fan fiction)

  • @noahprussia7622
    @noahprussia7622 Před 2 lety +8

    "The Life & Times of King Arthur"
    ok, get ready to learn about Lancelot

  • @ZenithfilmsUK
    @ZenithfilmsUK Před 2 lety +4

    So surprisingly 'Excalibur' 1981, is actually the closest movie adaption to the original myth. Cool!
    Awesome video dude, I enjoyed it verily ;)

  • @carlosvalois8966
    @carlosvalois8966 Před 2 lety +3

    Okay, that intro bit KILLED ME

  • @putinpunhere
    @putinpunhere Před 2 lety +8

    I shall thank Monty Python for my pre-viewing knowledge of the Arthurian legends.

  • @spud13y
    @spud13y Před 2 lety +3

    This needs to come full circle and become an anime.

    • @demi-fiendoftime3825
      @demi-fiendoftime3825 Před 2 lety +1

      Fate
      Arthur is now a girl but everything else is basically the same except Kay and Merlin are constantly running around to keep her secret to prevent the kingdom from losing their shit that they are being run by a woman with a magic sword that could destroy armies. Also Lancalot becomes a berserking shade pissed at Arthur for never punishing him for sleeping with Gweniver which in his mind lead to the kingdom's destruction not knowing the king was a woman who saw her wife more as a friend then an actual partner. Also the monty python and the holy grail killer rabbit is canon, technically it was a fey creature but still the point still stands Sir Bors died at the hands of something cute and fluffy

  • @allahuackbar396
    @allahuackbar396 Před 2 lety +4

    Moldred, the King who cared

  • @ferrjuan
    @ferrjuan Před 2 lety +11

    U telling me King Arthur isn’t a Bishōjo fighting other mythical/historical characters in order to gain the Holy Grail? Man I watch too much anime!

  • @resinks2269
    @resinks2269 Před 2 lety +4

    I need those 6 seasons and a Movie.

  • @yougosquishnow
    @yougosquishnow Před 2 lety +10

    Arthur breaking the sword against lancelot happens in the movie excalibur. That is right, i have seen that movie. I am old, sue me lol :)

  • @TheVoiceOfReason93
    @TheVoiceOfReason93 Před 2 lety +2

    King Arthur being a mass child murderer is something I would not had expected in a million years. It's like a twisted reflection of King Herod's 'Massacre of the Innocents' in his attempt to find and kill the newborn Jesus.

  • @michelleanderson245
    @michelleanderson245 Před rokem +1

    Rackam dragging us kicking and screaming through this history lesson is very historical

  • @zenkomenhi
    @zenkomenhi Před 2 lety +3

    This intro sold me immediately. I'm in.

  • @jacobsedlack1173
    @jacobsedlack1173 Před 2 lety +30

    I shall now make as many Nasuverse Camelot jokes/references as possible:
    Saber has a rough history, she was trying her best but she was only good at fighting.
    Arthur only started all of those wars because the King was hungry.
    Arthur's affairs are understandable: Shirou would ruin any marriage, he's very domestic and have you seen the Bone of his Sword?
    I have Zerkerlot in F/GO, clearly he was using the Dual Skadi farming setup to save Guinevere.
    Where are Mordred's Daisy Dukes and red leather jacket?
    Damn Wizard of Flowers Merlin always making trouble. Stop giving people dicks you dick!
    You'd kill Gawain's brothers too if you had to eat his mashed potatoes everyday.
    Guinevere Servant when DW?
    When he's not merged with Mashu Kyrielight, Galahad is sort of a smug prick. Never meet your heroes, huh?
    I'm glad your video didn't besmirch Round Table Best Boys Bedivere and Percival. They are without sin and do a good job.
    The ending is so sad. Tristan play "Despacito".
    Honestly I'm glad Lancelot never meets Shirou, history might repeat and Artoria might straight up murder the Knight of the Lake for trying to steal the wife she actually likes.
    You didn't mention how the Lady of the Lady gave Arthur the power to walk on water but never taught the king to swim so Artoria has to ask Shirou to teach and it's somehow diabetes inducingly cute.
    Mordred gets along better with stepmother Shirou than Morgan and it actually makes me glad the King remarried.

    • @kaybevang536
      @kaybevang536 Před 2 lety +3

      Now I can see a Genghis Khan Servant being a great leader but even more terrifying in battle

  • @benvacco8997
    @benvacco8997 Před 2 lety +3

    I jumped in my chair when the fate intro played, thank you for that.

  • @arottensoul2368
    @arottensoul2368 Před 2 lety +77

    YES YES YES, JACK YOU LEGEND, DRAG MORE PEOPLE DOWN HERE TO THE ARTHURIAN RABBIT HOLE!

    • @marseldagistani1989
      @marseldagistani1989 Před 2 lety +1

      Damn you Cath Palug, have you forgotten about all the years I took care of you?!

  • @lukepettinger1755
    @lukepettinger1755 Před 2 lety +5

    Lancelot is the ultimate Mary Sue

  • @wither5673
    @wither5673 Před 2 lety +3

    Using the Fate intro cracked me up good haha

  • @usersixtyfive7840
    @usersixtyfive7840 Před 2 lety +2

    I loved every second of this. Best video you have done. In my opinion....

  • @MrTilldaddy
    @MrTilldaddy Před 2 lety +11

    Wait. Wasn't Arthur was taken into his throne room and placed upon the Golden Throne after his duel with his rebellious son?
    Wait. Wrong series.

  • @arlotinsman-kongshaug3703

    After years of casual viewing this is what finally made me subscribe. King Arthur FTW

  • @KostitosConQueso
    @KostitosConQueso Před 2 lety +3

    Took a course in undergrad about the Arthurian Tradition. Awesome class.

  • @cgt3704
    @cgt3704 Před 2 lety +4

    Since noone has made a Monty Python reference , ill do it myself
    *clears throat* :
    🎶We're knights of the round table
    We dance whenever we're able
    We do routines and chorus scenes
    With footwork impeccable
    We dine well here in Camelot
    We eat ham and jam and spam a lot
    We're knights of the round table
    Our shows ( *smash* ) are for-( *smash* )-midable ( *smash* )
    But many times we're given rhymes
    That are quite unsingable
    We're opera mad in Camelot
    We sing from the diaphragm a loooooot
    War we're tough and able (ow), quite indefatigable
    Between our quests we sequin vests
    And impersonate Clark Gable
    It's a busy life in Camelot
    I have to push the pram a loooooot 🎶

  • @inxendere
    @inxendere Před 2 lety +2

    Using the Fate Zero ending nearly killed me holy shit I love you so much

  • @matthewsteigauf470
    @matthewsteigauf470 Před 2 lety +6

    I personally prefer the versions that sorta shit on Lancelot. They're fun because they give him the ego of being a MC but he always ends up like a Vegeta instead.

    • @TryinaD
      @TryinaD Před 2 lety

      Finally, someone with taste. Mallory’s Lance felt a bit too shonen anime for me

  • @sherirobinson6867
    @sherirobinson6867 Před 2 lety +1

    History with Jack is fantastic

  • @gabrielrussell5531
    @gabrielrussell5531 Před 2 lety +21

    I should point out that decking them in plate armor is wrong. Plate became a thing in the 1300s. They'd all be wearing chain.

    • @zachlong5427
      @zachlong5427 Před 2 lety +4

      Hah, nerd! :)

    • @gabrielrussell5531
      @gabrielrussell5531 Před 2 lety +3

      @@zachlong5427 We're watching a history edutainment youtuber, who do you expect to be in his audience?

  • @muhdzafri7551
    @muhdzafri7551 Před 2 lety +6

    I actually don’t mind literature on a history channel once in a while!

  • @Ciubix8513
    @Ciubix8513 Před 2 lety +4

    Ngl I didn't understand a single thing, but it was cool

  • @michaeljohnangel6359
    @michaeljohnangel6359 Před 2 lety +4

    You're a difficult act to follow, Jack, but let me insert a serious note! One of the great lessons in the legend of the Round Table is that everything contains the seeds of its own destruction. The good knights wage war against the bad knights and WIN. They then have nothing left to do; so, inevitably, they turn on each other. Arthur stops this by sending everybody on a hunt for the Holy Grail; unfortunately, Galahad finds it, and again the knights have nothing to do. It then goes from bad to worse ….
    The pure, deep love between Lancalot and Guenevere causes death to all their friends and eventually destroys itself.
    There's lots more, but that will do as a sketch.
    The best book EVER on the Arthurian legend is "The Once and Future King" by T.H. White. It's a joy to read: it's lightly written and profoundly meant.

    • @deiansalazar140
      @deiansalazar140 Před rokem

      Is it available for free? Also God KOTR was literally just a high school friend group weren't they...

  • @SeruraRenge11
    @SeruraRenge11 Před 2 lety +9

    So basically you're saying as overly gory and horny as it was, the movie Excalibur is more or less one of the most accurate tellings.

  • @Goodyfan17
    @Goodyfan17 Před 2 lety +1

    This is the best thing I've ever seen.

  • @baum6721
    @baum6721 Před 2 lety

    That "ACK!!" is lovely.

  • @Julie-7605
    @Julie-7605 Před 2 lety

    Jack's back!

  • @Clubbaking20001
    @Clubbaking20001 Před 2 lety

    Thank you Jack this will make my next ck3 run fun

  • @FELONIOUSBOLUSS
    @FELONIOUSBOLUSS Před 2 lety +6

    Oh my god....its a fucking shonen anime....

  • @nowhereman6019
    @nowhereman6019 Před 2 lety +5

    The Arthurian Legends, more like "Sir Lancelot and his buddies".

  • @jackgreene7002
    @jackgreene7002 Před 2 lety

    Preach Rackam , Preach!!!!

  • @osverhernandez8435
    @osverhernandez8435 Před 2 lety +1

    8:51 😂❤️ I LOVE THIS CHANNEL

  • @ryankolick4117
    @ryankolick4117 Před 2 lety +19

    I feel like the portrayal of Lancelot in this was written by Chrétien de Troyes

  • @TheLoyalOfficer
    @TheLoyalOfficer Před 2 lety

    Hilarious! I loved the ending. Well done!

  • @LaRana2315
    @LaRana2315 Před 2 lety +2

    To quote Red of Overly Sarcastic Productions cannon:
    "If Arthur, Guinevere, and Lancelot had all just been honest about their feelings and entered into a mutually supportive romantic relationship, we could've called it a polyarmory. "

  • @macroy5149
    @macroy5149 Před 2 lety

    Alright not even 2 mins in and there the fate reference I was waiting for. Gods bless you jack.

  • @ramonabanik7713
    @ramonabanik7713 Před 2 lety

    Love this.

  • @jakelaurence30
    @jakelaurence30 Před 2 lety

    The world needs a video from you about mad jack Churchill

  • @eunbitpark5251
    @eunbitpark5251 Před 2 lety

    i love the parts where you hold a handkerchief for your tears. it's priceless XD

  • @erinnichols6378
    @erinnichols6378 Před 2 lety

    I learned a whole bunch about Arthur from Welsh mythology/folktales. I'm looking forward to this.

  • @mueezadam8438
    @mueezadam8438 Před 5 měsíci +1

    And to think that many more complex folk tales like this exist/existed, waiting for us to rediscover them.