Is Synergy Boost worth 4x the cost of Protector Wax? Tested over 4 months.
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- čas přidán 22. 04. 2023
- Koch Chemie Protector Wax - bit.ly/3A2tMeO
Infinity Wax Synergy Boost - bit.ly/3oosf00
If you ask people what's a good lance applied foam sealant, you'll inevitably get Koch Chemie Protector Wax as one of the answers. And one of the others will likely be Infinity Wax Synergy Boost.
Synergy Boost claims to last 3 months, where as I know I will get between 4-8 weeks out of Protector Wax, depending on the time of year. In this video I take a look at these products side by side over 4 months to see how they add up. - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Great video mate. You're on a roll now. Keep the momentum up 📈
Thanks dude, for the support and advice as well as the comment.
Great test, I've been interested in both these products so it's really good to see a detailed comparison!
You're very welcome! I've enjoyed doing this one as I expected it to be a bit closer in terms of durability/I wasn't expecting Boost to be THAT much better.
There's so many products like this now, one people always mention is KKD Purity X, so I may try that when I get towards the end of these ones.
Great detail. Thorough explanations and demonstration.
Thank you 👍
I am just befuddled by the fact that in other countries you can wash your car in the streets like that. Here in Germany people would lose their mind and call the cops on you.😅
Imagine seeing it from the other perspective and thinking how harsh it is that you can't do it at home! I do understand the legislation and believe it's a good thing...and I'm glad it doesn't yet apply here.
very useful video, i have toyed with the idea of buying both but still undecided. Thank you. 👍🏻
Any update?
Koch Chemie now have SO03 which is an improvement on PX a deeper darker gloss that last a bit longer.
A few people I know have tried it and haven't found it much better than PW, especially for the cost. Although there does seem to be one benefit and that is it seems to bond with convertible roofs, where PW didn't.
Synergy Boost promo video suggest 5ml to 995ml water for a protected car and a max of 20ml for an unprotected car
I didn't know that! There's no mention of it on the bottle.
It's also been pointed out that deep in the Koch blurb they mention correcting for using it through a foam canon, so PIR effectively. I should do a follow up!
Really enjoying your videos llama 👍🏻 Do you try and keep these sealants off the windscreen?
Thank you for saying that, it's really appreciated.
I do personally try and keep them off the screen - I've had customers complain about smearing (it's not, it's just that it's so hydrophobic that it beads the trace amounts of water left behind), so I gave it a go myself and found the same.
Good upload, was that 👌. I wonder of the IW would be even better over a ceramic, like their Synergy products 🤔. I've just applied Synergy Lite to my dad's car and I have a few Si02 products, GT Sigma and a ceramic QD from Ed Turners, and was just going to use those, I'm trying with grabbing the boost, just to experiment with 💡. All the best 👍
I reckon so, it's probably seen a rejuvenation of the hydrophobics without having to do a Decon like you would for synergy lite. But....when you know the Boost has expired and it was just the latent ceramic underneath doing the work?
Very useful video and great job on comparing these two! Your conclusion is the same as mine, use Pw for commercial applications because of the cost, plus the fact that you'd normally wash your car more often anyways. However, Synergy Boost is an excellent product as well and can be used for different customers based on their needs etc. Again, fantastic job with your video, next time when doing a comparison maybe it would be useful to label the products when showing the results, it would definitely make it easier for the viewers. Cheers!
I'm glad you enjoyed the video 👍 I've been told that there's a 5L container of Synergy Boost coming, so that could turn the tables a little in terms of the cost differential (PW is available in 10kg/11L containers of course, but, unless you're doing "hand car wash" volumes, I can't see that actually being viable?).
You're not the only person to mention the labels, I'll see what I can do - I may have reached the limits of what is possible in iMovie (Final Cut Pro costs about as much as I make from CZcams per month so I'm not going there yet) but I will explore and see what I can do. At the very least I can say what product is in what side (it was consistent throughout the video btw).
Nice honest review Adrian , i got Boost in the Mystery box last year used it over the winter a few times instead of Wet Coat. It was a nice product and worked well and never used again, will use again in the winter and when it's finished i won't buy again . I prefer Wet Coat and it;s cheaper . Keep up the good work :)
I also got Boost in the mystery box ❤️
Comparing it to wet coat is a great idea, and it's also made me think, I wonder if you can put it in a spray bottle and apply it in the same way as you do with WetCoat.... because the value would then be amazing.
@@SuperchargedLlama Great idea that mate , gonna give that a go, maybe try 50ml in a litre spray bottle ? May do that this week if we get a few hours of dry weather . Will give you an update if i do
@@skidmarkbill that is what I was thinking.
@@SuperchargedLlama Update, break in the weather, washed car , left wet, 50ml boost in 950ml water in 1 litre spray bottle. Sprayed 1 -2 panels then rinsed off , virtually the same water behaviour as Wet Coat and other spray and rinse products i have used. How long it will last ? If it lasts 6- 8 weeks the same as Wet Coat , at £24.99 for Boost at those ratios it works out at 5 litres which is cheap and Wet Coat is £62 for 4000ml ! Maybe worth you doing a video and long term test in the future ? All the best :)
@@skidmarkbill I think it definitely is worth exploring given your findings there!
Infinity wax now sell Synergy boost in 2.5 litre bottles.... but its £120!
Infinity wax products are good but their higher price counts them out of the running for me as there are other alternative products available that are just as good and cheaper.
I wont use the lance applied sealants as they go everywhere including places I dont want them. The time you save in applying is taken up by the added time it takes cleaning them off afterwards.
Yeah that's an interesting point. The 2.5L one works out at £1.44 per mixed litre of solution, but I hadn't corrected the Protector Wax for it's foam lance applied dilution rate - I misread the instructions, effectively you're supposed to do the PIR calculations and that ends up being a lot more product. So it's probably not as far out as I originally thought. Buuuuuut Synergy Boost is pricey, although it lasts 3 months and PW won't get anywhere near that, so you'd reapply and use more product over the same time period...and therefore maybe it costs about the same?
Great honest video buddy.
I found boost to be better also, On longevity and slickness.
I found 30ml of both products to be my preferred ratio
It's a tricky one commercially though, I think Boost would have to be an upsell, where as you might want PW on for a regular wash to make it easier to dry and keep it cleaner (if you were doing it monthly for example). On a personal vehicle it's down to whether you want the best performing product of the best bang for buck I guess?
I'm kinda curious as to how Bilt Hamber Touch On performs....
@@SuperchargedLlama as a business I would hope to get big trade discount.
As an LSP offering business wise I’m guessing the lower dilution ratio every 4 weeks might help.
But PW is obviously cheaper and would last that longevity term of 4 weeks
@@Geeky_detail_reviews it's £5 less with a trade account, but the bottle is the same size and there's no bigger option, which is a bugger.
I really wanted to like Synergy Boost but found it massively disappointing. They claim "insane hydrophobics" but I found the water behaviour mediocre. Tried it at stronger dilutions too. Maybe I got a dud bottle.
I'm surprised to hear that, did your water behaviour look anything like mine?
Have you ever tried Gyeon Bathe+ as a foamed sealant like these? It seems to work pretty well. Not sure if it's on par with PW though?
I've not, but I've got a test to do comparing some of the ceramic shampoos so if I have enough product I will give that a go.
I apparently got the ratio wrong for PW here it turns out. I should have adjusted it for PIR and that would have meant significantly more product used, but it might be more durable. Conversely this ratio used in the video is absolutely right for a spray and rinse application.
You might already be aware, but Boost now available in 2.5L at half the cost of the 250ml
I'd seen that, which I think is cracking value for money. You can also apply it in a trigger bottle too, I saw someone doing that. 5ml in a litre!
Great video I had some Boost from its launch and I don't think it lasts and it was difficult to get a good bond in cooler weather. I think Gyeon Wet Coat is the most durable. I find mixing another chemical to go through the lance just time-consuming and I don't see the benefits.
I'm going to try using it like WetCoat because I have to say that I agree. Spray and rinse is far easier than foam and rinse isn't it? Junks up the lance too.
@@SuperchargedLlama I find WetCoat really impressive. I do think that the foam and rinse can more easily hit all spots especially on a big vehicle.
@@chrisbradley3224 I'm thinking I should do a wet spray application of these products and include WetCoat in the test. It's just a tricky thing to do as I need to move on and do other products now too!
I've yet to use Boost enough to make a full judgement but always find myself going back to Express Sealant from IW as you can get 5L which works out to be just over £5 per litre,
I've been told there's going to be a 5L Synergy Boost. I hadn't realised Express Sealant could be lance applied though, that's interesting!
@@SuperchargedLlama i tend to try and use via pump sprayer or trigger spray to work out dilution more accurately compared to the lance but offers upto 3 months of protection so seems to be more cost effective than protector wax
PW didn’t agree with my windscreen wipers front and back, virtually impossible to drive in wet conditions at night due to smearing.
That's a good point that I didn't make; I don't put any products on my glass because I always have that problem myself! Paint only for me.
Are these foam lance products the same as the spritz/wipe/rinse (Wet Coat) type products? Do they have similar properties/longevity etc?
I don't know but I am now going to try Synergy Boost as a spray and rinse. Because I know PW can be (I'm going to do a comparison between these two and TW Dry and Shine I think).
Good comparison, definitely didn’t look 4x better to warrant the cost difference.
Not when you can buy 10L of PW which equates to £15/L
I wonder if Wetcoat would be a better solution than both?
I wonder that too, I know with PW you can mix it up on a spray bottle and apply it that way....I wonder if you can with Synergy Boost. I shall enquire and then potentially run the test again (maybe just on bonnet though, as that stopped working more quickly and I've got other stuff to review).
If autofoam masks the hydrophobics of an LSP how would you combat that or is it a case of ignoring how it appears during the wash/rinse stages and just getting on with it and monitor how it performs in bad weather etc?
I've been washing with Rinseless Wash products as a shampoo because I find these far free'er rinsing. And if you use Touch-Less or Garage Therapy Snow V2 they rinse more freely too, but ultimately, yes, it's usually a case of looking at it the day after. Or, apparently, wiping it over with a towel that's been in hot water.
I was just recording the 6 month update to Flex Wax Vs Obsidian and, a week later, the beading is mega, way better than on the wash day.
@@SuperchargedLlama can a rinseless wash do what a shampoo can, does it remove all the same things from a panel or would it only remove durt/dust and leave oily residues or sap, for example? All the best 👍
@@decker0373 Feynlab Pure Rinseless absolutely can, I actually use it to wipe of polish residue when doing correction work, it's a monster (Matt Rowe from Obsidian Detailing put me on to that). I think FPR is more potent than Garage Therapy Decon Wash personally.
Let's just assume no shampoo will remove big blobs of tree sap though, that's one for hand sanitiser.
So the answer is yes, but it depends on the product, much like it does with shampoo's too.
@@SuperchargedLlama thanks very much. I have ONR, I'd not even heard of FPR until recently (one of your videos actually) and, hand sanitizer for tree sap 😱
@@decker0373 ONR is polymer based which will leave some protection behind possibly giving the illusion of bringing back hydropobics. Unlike FPR which is surfactant based so cleans and leaves nothing behind from what I’ve read. ONR Is better for cleaning glass, FPR for paint.
Is there really any difference in any of the foam lance applied products? I own 4 or 5 and can’t say when using bh autofoam none really lasts any longer than the others.
I feel like Synergy Boost really was better than Protector Wax, and I pre-wash with AutoFoam, Koch Superfoam etc, but I don't clean weekly. How often are you hitting yours? And is AutoFoam at 4% PIR each time?
@@SuperchargedLlama yeah 4% maybe I get bored after a month and just like trying or reapplying stuff, to be honest I was born with the that will do gene, not the ocd gene so maybe my prep and application isn’t as thorough as yours, whilst yours is your business mine is just a few hours away from the mrs pottering about trying new stuff so longevity doesn’t interest me
@@trevdavis9234 it's that use case where I think PW is absolutely perfect, because it lasts 4ish weeks nearly all the time, so you can reapply/try something new frequently enough.
I'm struggling to place Synergy Boost - I think it's more of an upsell product from a commercial point of view and a "I want the best" for a private one.
A vid of the best car shampoo to use in a cannon not pre wash would be good.
It would be, but I don't think I'll do it. There's too many shampoo to try and it's too subjective to personal preference. This test is objective, we can all see which was better, shampoos don't really "do" anything, ya know? I'll bang a couple through my MJJC V3 S as part of its review just to demo that capability.
@@SuperchargedLlama I didn’t know there was a v3 of the cannon.