New Sur Ron 4MF Moto Kit... and my Sur Ron is Dead.
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- čas přidán 12. 05. 2022
- The 4MF Moto Kit for the Sur Ron X // Segway X260 Electric Dirt Bike is here. I took out the ECR Sur Ron XX bike to show off the new kit and killed my bike in the process.
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The 4MF Moto Kit is a body kit designed for the Sur Ron X and Segway X260 Electric Dirt Bikes. The body kit comes with front and rear fenders, side panels and a full size motocross seat. Riders can still utilize the stock functionality of the bike like the battery display, charger port and battery hatch lock. The result is improved riding position, comfort and a place to squeeze the eMoto with your knees! Check out 4MF here: bit.ly/4MFSurRon
Check out 180 Decals for graphics kits for the 4MF eMoto kit. You can purchase the ECR replica graphics as well as a bunch of other options for the Sur Ron and most other dirt bikes. Use the Code ECR22 to save 20% at 180 Decals: bit.ly/180Decals
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These are my "immediate" modification suggestions for the Sur Ron X:
Pro Taper 810 3" Rise Handlebars
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GritShift: bit.ly/GritShiftProTaper3
Riser Stem (if using stock bars)
GritShift: bit.ly/GritShiftRiserStem
Michelin Heavy-Duty Tubes
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GritShift: bit.ly/GritShiftHeavyDutyTubes
Front Tires (70/100-19)
Pirelli Scorpion
Amazon: amzn.to/2tzT7yp
Rear Tires (70/100-19)
Shinko 241
Amazon: amzn.to/3c4jqTe
GritShift: bit.ly/GritShiftShinko241
Maxxis Maxxcross
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GritShift: bit.ly/GritShiftMaxxisIT
Shimano HO3C Brake Pads
Amazon: amzn.to/3bZVOPx
Sur Ron Foot Peg Brace:
GritShift: bit.ly/GritShiftSRFootpegBrace
DirtyBike: bit.ly/DirtyBikeSRFootPegBrace - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Still diagnosing the bike! Any ideas? In the meantime, check out the 4MF Kit Here: bit.ly/4MFSurRon and 180 Decals Here: bit.ly/180Decals [Use Code: ECR22 for 20% Off]
4MF Moto Kit Review Video Here: czcams.com/video/lfulzus_U6o/video.html
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My best guess is either one of the safety sensors like the kickstand sensor was broken on that jump. Or a wire came loose on the contrller/motor but looks like you were already checking that. But when you diagnose the problem please make a video or let us know what it was and how you fixed it! Always like to know more about the bike.
@@Jackrichardsvids For sure. All of the sensors (kickstand, tip over, brakes) are removed off this bike so it unfortunately isn't that. We'll do an update when we find out!
@@ElectricCycleRider It dont work without kickstand sensor. its a weak safety spot.
Possibly the ignition or broken ignition wire. I had one of mine break from bouncing around.
@@electronracer Good to know! I'll check that.
I never liked the look of the Sur Run. With this kit it now looks badass! The graphix you put on made it pop. I love it!
@Farmer Fpv Agree!
For motocross-people this is a really necessary update. without that you cannot apply many of your usual driving-techniques because you need that knee-grip-area.
the knee-grip also helps to relax your arms.
I hope my kit arrives soon and that it makes the bike feel more MX.
@Lucid Layers Indeed!
I like it except for the front fender looks too much like a PW 80
@SHREDDING IT The front fender seems to be the biggest complaint of the kits style so far. It's secured by 4 zip-ties so pretty simple to remove if you wanted to run something else on the front.
Hope you get the bike fixed ok, good video showing how it is, nice looking kit that 4MF Moto.
Well done Luigi.
Saving up for one of these and watching your videos is pure torture, in a good way!
Out of all the vids I've seen you have made the Sur Ron look the best of all. You do a great job my man.
@wattermelon 1 Appreciate that very much man! Thanks for the note 👍
That bike looks like a Stealth on two wheels! What I like about the Sur ron is that it can be modular and almost shape shifting. Now that I've tried this bike I really don't think i will ever go back to conventional motorcycles - it's just the weight factor of the Sur ron or lack of, that i really love about this e bike
Can't wait to see your video on taller batteries with this kit! That's the only thing holding me back from buying it right now
Same here
It takes some mods, I'm running an ebmx battery, I'm not sure how well it will hold up to riding with the bigger battery as they only leave 1/5th of an inch for bigger batteries. There is clearly a gap where it should be because the top of the cover is pressing on the battery.
@IAmA Turdle For sure! Which battery are you currently running?
@@ElectricCycleRider Litespeed 72v/32ah
And the price is ridiculous..
OH. DAMN! I absolutely love all of this! Also, such a great graphic design!!
@UNDER CALIFORNIA Glad you dig it! 180 nailed the graphics for sure.
Do they make a kit for the Talaria Sting? If not, are they planning to?
I had a similar issue and it was the 5A barrel fuse under the ignition panel. I was landing a jump and the impact was not rough.
@Ryan Luke Interesting... I will add that to the list to check if our next solution doesn't work!
Looks sick I want one on my talaria sting
I wonder if it will fit on my surron with a 60v chi battery on it?
I really like this mit, but i’m concerned that it doesn’t fit when using larger batteries. Did you manage to test the kit using taller batteries?
Had the same thing happen after a water crossing had to be towed by my buddy turned out to be a brake sensor from the lever not fully retracting.
For some unknown reason ,sometimes the bike doesn’t come on when I turn the key on ...have to turn key on and off a few times before bike works, just something easy to try.
I have the same problem right now. That's how I came across this video, looking for a solution. This appears to be a common problem. I wonder if anyone has definitively found the true problem and the solution.
Will there be an extender for bigger batteries is the question. Hmmm?
I’m wanting to get this kit but I’m worried about taller aftermarket batteries, does this only work for the stock battery?
That color skim reminds of the Toyota off road color skim.
I have a surron and a 72V EBMX battery and I am really interested in your if it fits with custom battery hight capacity. BTW, do you ship to Europe ?
Hello. It's been over a year. Did the new controller fix the dead sur ron issue? Thanks.
The first mode I'm doing when I get mine is a skid plate
Are you already know the Kit also fit with a larger battery? 72Volt? Thx and nice vid!
With that color scheme and every time you brush across the front fender I think it looks like it says AMF.lol
Would be nice to see seating position from the side...
Hmm, sorry for your bike, hope you can fix it easily. As for the video Sur Ron finally looks cool!
my good friend just got one of them $2500 ebmx batteries and it’s been nothing but problems. it constantly just shuts off randomly. he hasn’t even had it a month.
check if you have 203mm left on your fox40 up to the lower crown. usually a flat top crown means you dont have 203mm travel anymore. so as you are a pretty quick rider you probably slam next time your lower sealings "abit" :P
@IncredibleCisco Copy that! Will check it. Thanks for the heads up 👍
Dang!! Lucky you had your tow rig with you 😉
@BigRed Lucky indeed!
Damn this kit looks badass.
Does it fit the EBMX 72v 42ah?
I would have thought Surron would have made a diagnostic kit being as it.s all electric detailing the problems with which particular electrical part..I'm sure they would make bank..that's if they already haven't..it would be Such a useful kit to have.....
@Lazarus Cain They do provide a small diagnostic tool. We used that and it appears to be an issue with the Luna XX controller. We're awaiting a new controller from Sur Ron North America to test and verify. Will keep you updated!
will this fit the stock battery only? or aftermarket...?
The graphics make it come alive
👍
Do they make a kit for the Sting MX4?
any news if they are already shipping?
Will this kit fit on the talaria?
Any updates on the battery fitting? I heard that 60v 53ah batts from embx(compact) and surronshop size are almost the same as the stock battery so im very interested to know before ordering this
I have one of those from embx. It is bigger than the stock battery. I had to remove some stuff inside the battery compartment in order for it to fit.
very nice work!
where can you buy a surron because there out everywhere
your bike looks super cool! my brother and I ride light bee s models :)
looks amazing!
Does anyone know best brakes out there for a stealth bomber style ebike
Most likely the battery metering sensor in the battery...had mine fail and, had to send the battery back to Luna to be warrantied.
@hornefoundations I thought it could be that but my spare battery (that was not in the bike) is also not powering it...
Luigi came in clutch! Great video
@Sur Ronster Luigi the legend! Thanks dude! 👍
how fast does it go ?
Very curious if it fits the EBMX 53ah 60v. I’d buy a kit today if it did. Where are you going to post results of your different battery fitment tests, another video? Or some other platform?
This is my biggest question about these kits
Not without mods, and then it's a bit tight still like I'm not sure how well it will hold up to riding, to top cover is on the top of the battery and pressing down pretty hard and there's still a bit of a gap.
@hockeyg0d9 Should have that exact battery to test fit pretty soon. I'll have a bunch of follow up videos for sure.
@@crookedcoast1299 Do you have the EBMX 60v 53Ah also?
@@ElectricCycleRider I do ya, any info on the fitment would be great.
Does it fit with 72v?
Do they make this kit for talaria
Great video Tucker!
@Mobb Genius TV Thanks! Appreciate it.
Did you bypass your stock battery?
What size tires are on this bike?
I hit a stick in the woods far from home and ripped the kickstand wire....Had to do a trail hack to get home.....
It looks sick
Happy Friday the 13th!
Got a chalk white one
Looks sweet the only thing is now looks like a kick azz dirt bike . Which I’m trying to go with the mountain bike looks so that I can get away with murder if you know what I mean😎 just one look at this would get me busted quick🤣
@Upnorth Kenny Valid point! It definitely makes it look like an MX bike. Might lose a bit of that stealth factor...
I don’t know why but I just love this video. I’ve been on a fair share of shoots with all the badass stuff ready to go. And bam! One hiccup and the video is over.
Love all the stuff you’re doing a specially the channel and the magazine style writing on the website!
@Matthew McLaughlin So true! A lot of variables to make even a small shoot happen. Appreciate the support man!
@@ElectricCycleRider too many to count. Hoping for big things for you and your company in the future. Looks like you’re poised to be a serious name in the industry.
@@haveagoodoneyt Thanks Matthew!
I've seen more videos were others just randomly shut off just like yours I wonder what's causing it
@ExelArts Interesting...
Tip over sensor get stuck made up? I removed mine. It’s behind top mount of the motor controller
@FSR Fab It's a great suggestion but the tip over sensor is removed on this bike. So are the brake and kickstand sensors. Still dead! Bike powers on with both batteries but no go...
@@ElectricCycleRider does Red/Black wire from the DC-DC converter have voltage on it going to the motor controller? Did wire get pinched. I am assuming the little fuse is good between key switch and Circuit breaker. So it’s seems to be after the DC-DC converter atleast. Using negative reference should have full battery voltage (positive) on R/B wire.
It's a hall sensor. You probably dislodged it from the motor on your landing. That's why it cut out.
@Victor Fox Will definitely add this to the list. We're currently thinking it's a controller issue and Sur Ron North America has sent us one to test. We'll definitely report back when we find out.
spun the hall sensor magnet inside the motor. Lost sync?
@Riding Dirty Will definitely keep that on the list and hope it's not that. Trying a new controller here soon.
Just ordered the kit and I haven’t got the Surron yet, end of May hopefully. Lmao
Thank you!!!
@Britches ain’t sheet Get em' while you can!
What handle bar mount are you using on this bike?
@Nathan Mueller That's the XC Gear Hammerhead 360
Time for an upgraded bash guard perhaps?
@rangirata Haha, yes. For sure.
Bummer, but the kit looks really good. Love the decals!
@Trajan FPV Thanks! 180 killed it on the new graphics! 👍
Did you spice the wire for the tail light? just throwing it out there.
@Craig St Germaine It's a good catch, for sure. The tail light was not connected and has been that way for many rides now. No moisture as it has been dry out here but definitely one thing I looked at. I've heard people having issues from moisture in the tail light connection...
So how did you fix the issue just change controller does it come with a spare controller?
@Michel Bisson Still working on it but Sur Ron North America is sending a spare controller to test. Will keep you updated.
Ok
Is this a 79 frame?
Just curious how comfortable is the seat
it looks so flat with no padding so im assuming its not comfortable which is why most who ride these don't sit much on it.
@J J It's roughly what you'd expect from an MX bike. Not overly plush and soft but much more comfortable than sitting on the plastic battery compartment in corners! I probably stand 80% of the time when riding anyways.
How you gonna keep the stock dent plate on it and upgrade all the other stuff. I can't even call it a bash guard. I think the one from those Ozzie guys are the best it's a hard plastic like cutting board material or something like that but I can balance on it and be ok. 🤦🏽♂️
@malaihiboi Haha, I know, you're right. I should have updated that thing long ago. It'll be updated soon for sure.
it looks nice!
so what happened to the bike, do you know why it died?
@Steve Williams Still diagnosing it. Currently think it was a controller failure and Sur Ron North America has kindly sent a new controller to test. Waiting on that now before moving forward.
Nice but what we really need is brake calipers that fits motorcycle brake pads mtb pads is to thin and doesn't last long
When you said; "New kit on the bike". My mind heard "New Kid's On The Block"😕
Where is my mind🤔
@youforgotyourcrap 😂 The right stuff!
Looks really cool but that seat looks really uncomfortable. It looks like is really thin with hardly any padding on it. May e it's the video.
Not a fan of the the front fender . A under the triple clamp MX fender would look much better.
Unfortunately cant run traditional moto fenders on mtb forks with the cross brace
Super interested to see if it fits a 72 V battery
Probably not, though I don't have it to weigh in much. Most 72v I have seen use a raised battery compartment door
I like it but not the pw80 front fender
Love the look, but the finish looks very "cheap" without graphic kit
Where’d you get your wheels and tires?
Full Build Video: czcams.com/video/iBLjCatbFkY/video.html
Wheels are from Woodys Wheel Works.
💪🏾
@LORD FOOTAGE 🙌
A sur ron and an ubco are also in my stable.
@landrover325 Great combo!
⚡🤙🏼⚡
I was on board til the price tag, nawdawg
AMF...
The dark days of Harley Davidsons history!
You should have known.
@er kl Haha, I know! Still love the retro look though. Those are our logo colors, coincidentally the old Harley vibe.
Any links to actually purchase the kit?
@Superbike Surgery Ltd Yes. Check the description.
@@ElectricCycleRider I did! The links either take you to a review page or the ECR Marketplace page where it isn't available if you search for it.
@@SuperbikeSurgeryTV My mistake! Updated now. Thanks.
The link is in the video
Well. Probably easier to tow that out of the woods than a full-size moto
@surf rat Haha, 100%!
the surron experience, I had it, twice.
😬
How tall are you
now that is somthing worth buying.... not like some of the rubbish i have seen on here.... il be getting 1 for my bike 100%
@SurRon Off-Road 👍👍
Dont like the graphics, looks too much like the old AMF colors. Nice seat and fender though.
@CncObsession To each their own! Those are the ECR logo colors.
I bet it was the tilt sensor that shut the bike off
@JacuzziSurfer It's a plausible thought for sure but I already removed the tilt sensor. Currently thinking it's a controller failure and trying a new one soon.
@@ElectricCycleRider awe dang it. Best of luck tracking down the problem
Yeah, Sur-Ron's are fun when they are working but they are not reliable. Mine has died on my seven times in three years. Sometimes the reason is obvious, like a broken belt (twice). Sometimes it's a weird electrical glitch that's a pain to diagnose. Others have mentioned the sensors and dc-dc converter. I've also had problems due to the throttle potentiometer on the mechanical throttle and a broken wire to the rear light somehow killed the bike too.
Good luck with the diagnosis but I think we're all waiting for Stark to deliver a more reliable bike.
Tony Stark?
@@rebelknightrider4473 probably meant
Stark Varg
Over 1,000 miles on my Surron X. No issues at all.
Talaria for the win😊
@Jez Weston Good to hear your experiences. That's crazy you've had so many issues. I've had 4 Sur Ron X's (and 1 Segway X260) over the last 4 years and have experienced some small issues but nothing this big. I'll be checking throttle next.
Good news is I get to test the Stark Varg next week! Excited to try it out and will have videos to follow.
How much for kit?
$79.99 with the 20% discount code
Almost $500 usd
@@GettingthruLife how about figment with taller battery and seat extender?
Are they street legal?
You bike looked so much better before. Im not a fan of the new look at all. 🤦♂️🤷♂️
@Glenn Huffman Ah! Bummer. I think they both look pretty cool in their own ways. Should have another build coming up that might retain the stock look too.
Just my personal opinion. Your surron xx build video and the look of it inspired me on my surron purchase and build. Thought it looked so bad ass and fun i had to get one.
@@glennhuffman2305 Right on!!
Well .. what happened ?
@bob rips We are currently thinking it's a controller failure. Sur Ron North America has sent us a new controller to test and will report back when we know for sure.
@@ElectricCycleRider thanks for update. Hope you get it worked out. I hear the skidplate is weak on this new bike.
470$ for plastic? They can keep it.
holy shit that seat almost flat and no padding...how can anyone ride that comfortably?
@Rebel Knight Rider It's pretty comfortable, in my opinion! Much nicer than sitting on the plastic battery compartment in corners, that's for sure.
I wanted a Sur Ron but people and police do not like that bike in reg trails and area's so I went with a 4000 watt Bafang setup same price pretty much just now I can go everywhere and parts are much cheaper.