NEW SUR-RON Storm Bee | Electric Dirt Bike Test

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  • čas přidán 3. 09. 2022
  • Tucker from Electric Cycle Rider does a first ride review and test ride on the new Sur-Ron Storm Bee electric dirt bike.
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    Sur-Ron came onto the scene with their popular electric dirt bike, the Sur Ron Lightbee X, an ultra light ebike that combines features of a full size motocross bike and a mountain bike to make a dirt bike that rides in a category of it's own. Since then, they have teased their full size electric dirt bike, the Sur Ron Storm Bee. The bike has been available in other countries but has been slow to be released in the USA.
    The Sur Ron Storm Bee is more like a traditional dirt bike in its size, looks, power delivery and suspension. The pre-production model tested in this video might see some minor updates but the new Sur Ron currently features a 22.5kW motor, 90v 48Ah battery, full size Fast Ace fork and shock, and a 21" front wheel and 18" rear wheel, mounted with CST tires. The Storm will likely come in 3 models which will be an off road, enduro, and road version. The enduro model tested in this video weighs in a 291 pounds.
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  • @martinfoster5163
    @martinfoster5163 Před rokem +180

    Great first ride video. I've actually owned a Storm Bee (I call it the "Storm Beast") Enduro for 10 months now. It's also a pre-production model which I bought used in Mongolia for $8k. So I'm interested to hear your impressions. I can't make a video and upload it because I live in the mountains of Mongolia and we have appallingly slow upload speeds. At least until I get Starlink! So, if you don't mind, I'll give my 10 month of ownership impressions here.
    I love this bike. I've owned a few dual sport and adventure bikes (ICE) but never a full-on 2-stroke motocross bike. So my opinions are based on that. The Storm has exceeded my expectations from my experience with those bikes. Bear in mind, I can't compare it to a genuine motocross bike. The Bee's torque in sport mode is fierce and it feels like it'll pull my arms off. I only use sport mode on my rare rides on actual roads. I generally use "eco" to give me more range and the speed is sufficient for my use. I ride around our mountain camp home, usually for 1-3 hours. The nearest paved road is about 10km (6 miles away). I don't measure battery level in distance but in time. In 1-3 hours of riding up and down mountains, grassy slopes, rocky trails and some dirt trails, I'll use 10-80% of the battery capacity, depending on whether I'm doing trials style or motocross style riding. Charging is fast with 240v. From empty, it's claimed to recharge in 4 hours but I've never gone to empty. In realistic use, I can get multiple rides a day, charging at home if necessary. We have cheap electricity here but no gas stations for 10 miles, so electric vehicles are a good idea for me. It costs almost nothing to run when you have cheap electricity. Ours cost 4 cents per kW/h.
    I think the Storm Bee enduro works both as a trials bike and a mild motocross bike. Maybe not competition level but I've never competed so I'm not sure.
    As I said, I don't ride on road much at all. When I have (2 or 3 times), I find the Storm Bee very sporty: it feels light, agile and very fast accelerating at the low speeds but loses steam after 90km/h. I think mine goes up to 120km/h (Surron claims 110km/h probably restricted). Road range is claimed as 100km at 50km/h but who rides like that? I don't. So I haven't bothered with a boring road range test. It's not the intended use.
    The suspension suits me. It soaks up everything I've thrown at it and I haven't bottomed it out on the small jumps I do. I've also never adjusted it but I should maybe experiment. I find the handling very light and flickable off road too. Reverse is handy if you get stick on a steep hillside and want to maneuver out of a tough spot. The turning radius is really good. Hill climbing is very good but would be better with lower pressure and maybe mousse inner "tubes". I'm considering getting those because getting a flat in my area is no fun. I've never had a flat though but I'd rather not.
    It's a remarkably comfortable bike for me. It's tall but so am I (6'2"), so I can plant both feet flat in the sitting position. Standing while riding is very comfortable with the ergos just right for me. Sufficiently large front foot pegs work well with my motocross boots for long spells out of the saddle. The seat is unexpectedly comfortable. I tried a Light Bee in standard form and the ergos felt wrong for a big fella, whereas the Storm Bee is just about right.
    It'd be nice if the Bee were lighter but it's much lighter than my past bikes. The construction is solid and I think to be lighter, it would be more vulnerable to damage on the inevitable off-road spills and drops. I'd like the option of a much lighter battery for those short 1 hour rides, which I like. If I could shave off 20kg with a light battery, I'd take the range hit happily. The battery alone weighs 30kg (66lbs) so that's the obvious place to attempt to shave weight. The battery is removable so having a lighter option would be great.
    Ironically, I also lost the ends of the brake levers but just filed them smooth and added KTM branded handguards. The rear indicators will most likely get broken as they have zero protection and aren't flexible. I might replace the brake levers but the brakes work just fine with 2 fingers so it's not a high priority.
    Overall, there's little to complain about with this bike from my perspective. It supplies the most smiles per mile I've ever had.

    • @brdyhks
      @brdyhks Před rokem +5

      Definitely keep this for your first video!

    • @josephhertzberg2734
      @josephhertzberg2734 Před rokem +5

      Awesome review

    • @oblivianation9759
      @oblivianation9759 Před rokem +4

      I've got a moose and a tubeless system. I'm thinking the tubliss system is best. Sounds like you live in heaven with an awesome bike!

    • @martinfoster5163
      @martinfoster5163 Před rokem +1

      @@oblivianation9759 yes I’m in heaven. Except I took it for service a week ago. I have to ride my other dual-sport and I don’t like it nearly as much.

    • @elgringoec
      @elgringoec Před rokem +1

      @@martinfoster5163
      Fun read! Sounds like you're really enjoying it all!

  • @db3837
    @db3837 Před rokem +22

    I can't believe how fast you can ride those tight trails. I'm impressed!!

  • @retrothruster2539
    @retrothruster2539 Před rokem +31

    Been waiting yrs already, what's a few more, lol... Kidding, just hope I'm not too old to ride by the time they are available, looks like fun!

    • @ElectricCycleRider
      @ElectricCycleRider  Před rokem +3

      @RetroThruster Haha, for sure. They'll be available for sale in the USA soon. This pre-production model is pretty dialed in. Just some small tweaks that will likely be made before the production run.

    • @DanTube2010
      @DanTube2010 Před rokem +1

      I'm in Europe and the local dealer has one today in their shop priced at £7,837.

    • @mylifeinthailand8751
      @mylifeinthailand8751 Před rokem

      In Thailand they are getting the Ultra Bee

  • @yaitstac7267
    @yaitstac7267 Před rokem +5

    I love how the world is going Electric, I can’t wait to see what the future brings

    • @dyllongeckles2122
      @dyllongeckles2122 Před rokem +3

      Catastrophic failure and having to resort back to fossil fuels or some other fuel alternatives. Remember, when your Tesla runs out of battery, there's gonna be a diesel powered generator to come and save the day, probably being pulled by a diesel power truck

    • @butterytoast4836
      @butterytoast4836 Před rokem

      @@dyllongeckles2122 facts

    • @AzTurboMini
      @AzTurboMini Před rokem

      @@dyllongeckles2122 dude, you're speaking common sense and these people lack an once of it. Brainwashed they are and they're drunk from the Kool aid. (You're wasting your breath)🤦👍

  • @VoltedAdventures
    @VoltedAdventures Před rokem +2

    Happy to see more of these poppin around

  • @okkkop
    @okkkop Před rokem +39

    Looks like a solid bike. Just needs a new exhaust and it'll be ready for production!

    • @kingjinglefingle
      @kingjinglefingle Před rokem +4

      Not a fan of the sound, personally

    • @lacking5724
      @lacking5724 Před rokem

      🤣🤣

    • @yzrippin
      @yzrippin Před rokem +6

      @@kingjinglefingle so much cooler to be able to ride urban areas cause its silent. We can have tracks in town agian. Hell in the empty lot on the block. Karens cant noise complaint. And you can go ride at 5am not bothering anyone. No warm up time instant power. Optional left hand rear braking. Where is the downside battery life? Thats what they said about gas engines and oil changes when the first came out.

    • @jimlahey5354
      @jimlahey5354 Před rokem

      Hardy harrrr!

    • @KREllis-vr1ix
      @KREllis-vr1ix Před rokem

      @@yzrippin "Where is the downside battery life?" - well yes. That is the downside. The BIG downside. I don't hate on EVs but this cult of personality built around electrics is just...weird.

  • @TruthHrtz413
    @TruthHrtz413 Před rokem +7

    Definition of" breaking it in" lol ! I do like the dual sport aspect but also glad to know they are that heavy. Was going to get one for my son as intro bike but I might get one for short rides to work as we have a lot of dirt road access and no paying for gas a bonus. Excellent video surprised you can focus while talking , plus you pushed that bike well right to the point. 👍👍

  • @72151
    @72151 Před rokem +1

    Thank you for not playing music in the background. Beautiful review

  • @loz4830
    @loz4830 Před rokem +6

    been waiting for this bike to come out for ages

    • @ElectricCycleRider
      @ElectricCycleRider  Před rokem +2

      @Loz Indeed. It's been slower to get out of the gates here in the USA compared to other countries. Nice to finally see it in person.

  • @mackcity8876
    @mackcity8876 Před rokem +1

    I kept waiting for you to mention about how quiet the bike is!! I think that's my favorite feature. Great video ECR. New subscriber here =)

  • @TravisNobles
    @TravisNobles Před rokem +12

    So sick! So glad you finally got this one on your list of electrics! I'd love to hear some more in-depth thoughts on this compared to something like the Stark Varg (since you got to test that one - even if it's just based on your first impressions of the Varg), Alta Redshift (since we can still get those used) and KTM Freeride E-XC. I know these are VERY different bikes (and that the Alta's are discontinued) but hey... they're all electric bike options and those comparison videos are HUGE for helping people choose a bike for their style of riding. That and I think above all others, the comparison and general thoughts videos are my absolute favorite. I love seeing these bikes compared to other electric bikes as well as the gas bikes.
    It would be great to even see your lap time comparisons in different terrain (kind of like you've done with Sur Ron vs the KTM Freeride). Again, we totally understand that they are very different bikes but these comparisons are still a ton of fun to watch!
    Awesome content as always and looking forward to your in-depth review of this one!

    • @TravisNobles
      @TravisNobles Před rokem

      @electric cycle rider it looks like someone is spamming using your profile picture...

    • @ElectricCycleRider
      @ElectricCycleRider  Před rokem +2

      @@TravisNobles Thanks for the note. Yes, please disregard the scammers. They keep trying to impersonate the ECR account by using our logo and a fake name, very annoying. CZcams should be on top if it...
      I'll cover those questions in the full review! Appreciate the feedback!

    • @TravisNobles
      @TravisNobles Před rokem +1

      @@ElectricCycleRider yeah I've been reporting it every time I see it. Hopefully YT staff take care of it.
      Looking forward to your upcoming vids!

    • @ElectricCycleRider
      @ElectricCycleRider  Před rokem

      @DotScott At least a partial answer to your question in this comparison here: czcams.com/video/dO-s4IBTYIc/video.html

  • @CoMMenDaToR
    @CoMMenDaToR Před rokem

    Great review as always you do. Can't wait to see full review.

  • @rrphotography3600
    @rrphotography3600 Před rokem +2

    Kind of glad to hear it's more dual sport than enduro, love my xr250l. It's comfy soft suspension makes long rides n trails enjoyable. And compliments its tractor ability on the trails just to get through everything with a bit of skill.
    I'll still going the way of the talaria as the lower weight and means I can fit 2 on the back of the ute easier.

  • @elekid330
    @elekid330 Před 11 měsíci

    Are you kidding me my guy!? This bike is a despicably fast awesome exactly what many of us have been waiting for,starting on everything from the looks to dash lines another flowing emotion that all out Motocross all in your face look

  • @ark6959
    @ark6959 Před rokem +52

    Unwraps his new toy and immediately breaks it, haha! I had a preconceived idea about how this bike would be and you completely nailed it. The weight, tires and suspension definitely had me thinking “dual sport”. That being said, I wonder how big of a dual sport ride you can get away with on it… Cheers, Tucker!

    • @ElectricCycleRider
      @ElectricCycleRider  Před rokem +13

      @Introvert Adventurer Haha, par for the course! Although, the bike isn't mine. Just a test bike for the reviews.
      I'll be doing some "dual sport" type testing with it for the coming videos, hope to answer that question ^ 👍

    • @ark6959
      @ark6959 Před rokem +2

      @@ElectricCycleRider Nice! Looking forward to it!

    • @saltyfloridaman7163
      @saltyfloridaman7163 Před rokem +2

      @@ElectricCycleRider I think considering the build and parts, it's not worth it many of the parts such as suspension are found on cheap Chinese dual sports like my own X-Pro Templar 250 or other brands like GPX FSE 250e, or Kayo K4/K6

  • @lckygbw45
    @lckygbw45 Před rokem

    If there is anything you can compare with the Light Bee, what did surron get better on this model/get wrong?
    The light bee is very upgradable, do you see similar opportunities for the Storm to also be upgraded?
    What features would you recommend upgrading right out of the box, for a true dual sport?

  • @Luap-ls3ix
    @Luap-ls3ix Před rokem +3

    Did you get a chance to look at the spokes afterwards? I know the wheels are kind of a weak point on the Sur-Rons. Bike looks like a heck of a lot of fun. Hit 70mph pretty quick and it seemed super stable.

  • @roughready7491
    @roughready7491 Před rokem +1

    I strictly race harescrambles on the east coast. I'd love to have an electric bike to race with. Currently I race a ktm 250 2stroke with a rekluse clutch.
    What would be the best option for me? Can the battery (or an upgraded battery) last a full 2hr+ race? If not is there a model that has a quick swap capability?

  • @davidbarfield3489
    @davidbarfield3489 Před rokem +1

    I just found your channel! Greatness!

  • @kzakkttixx
    @kzakkttixx Před rokem +17

    The most interesting question is the average range:
    1. When actively driving in sport mode
    2. When driving moderately in sport mode
    3. When driving in eco mode

    • @martinfoster5163
      @martinfoster5163 Před rokem +7

      I've owned a Storm Bee for 10 months now, so I'll take a stab at that. I'd say 30 miles (45km), 40 miles (60km) and 60 miles (100km).

    • @skytek9645
      @skytek9645 Před rokem +2

      @@martinfoster5163 thanks for your input. Could you also put that into time ranges respectively? (As a two stroke guy I’ve never really tracked distance 😅)

    • @martinfoster5163
      @martinfoster5163 Před rokem +7

      @@skytek9645 well, I’d say 1, 2 and 3 hours of spirited, moderate and eco riding is approximately right. If you were in a motocross race 1 hour might be all it’d manage. I get 3 hours because I ride moderately fast in eco mode but do a lot of mountain riding, up and over passes but not insanely fast. My sense is that “sport” is mainly for high speed road riding above 80km/h (50mph). It seems unnecessary in the mountain forests and grasslands, single or no tracks. On a very nice unpaved road you might want “sport” mode. We don’t have that kind of nice unpaved. Everything around my area is rough or natural surfaces. There are some nice roads but I rarely ride on them, as I mentioned.
      I haven’t found the range to be limiting at all for my style of riding. If anything, I’d like a much lighter battery as an option to save weight, trading off range. Maybe they’ll offer one eventually.

    • @skytek9645
      @skytek9645 Před rokem +1

      @@martinfoster5163 awesome. I’m keen! Thanks again

    • @password2798
      @password2798 Před rokem

      @@martinfoster5163 what speed does eco mode top out at

  • @DeanF
    @DeanF Před rokem +1

    Awesome Tucker! You are the main reason I own two Sur Rons.👍🏻

    • @ElectricCycleRider
      @ElectricCycleRider  Před rokem

      @Dean F Awesome Dean!! Hope you're enjoying them and thanks for the note 👍

  • @Ronhickmott
    @Ronhickmott Před rokem

    Yep, that looks like bags of fun!

  • @laurentzirotti7788
    @laurentzirotti7788 Před rokem +1

    Thank you for your review. Btw congrats on the TKO race. Impressive.
    I’m ready to buy a Electric motion escape R and after this video I’m not sure anymore !?!? I’m 60 years old and like to ride single track. My concern with the storm bee would be the additional 90 lbs weight between these 2 bikes. What are your thoughts and advice. Thank you.

  • @mrnobody5381
    @mrnobody5381 Před rokem

    Just went camping with my boys, have 3 dirt bikes, a 450, 300, 230 all Kawasaki. I think this tech is cool, so much quieter but if your camping for days how do you charge it? How long does it take to charge? Would you have to run a generator for hours to charge it?

  • @jipyjaje7871
    @jipyjaje7871 Před 9 měsíci

    I like the no music just real sounds and explanation ceep up the great work🫡💪

  • @moltr00ps73
    @moltr00ps73 Před rokem +6

    Thank you for the cool review! One thing I notice is the rear suspension linkage goes below the swing arm this would mean you run the chance of damaging it if you use the bike for Hard Enduro or more technical riding, and makes it seem that it was more designed for single track and trail riding as you mentioned. If you want a good comparison, KTM has a similar suspension linkage on their MX/motocross bikes but the Enudro bikes have the rear suspension linkage stopping above the swing arm where it is protected from rocks and anything you might ride over. I look forward your next vid!

    • @camn9293
      @camn9293 Před rokem +2

      Mol, not quite true. The KTM XC (not xc-w), Husky, Yamaha, Sherco and Gasgas hard enduro bikes all have linkage. I prefer the linkage KTM for my hard enduro and hare scramble riding

    • @moltr00ps73
      @moltr00ps73 Před rokem

      @@camn9293 thanks for the reply but I think you may have your models mixed up. KTM’s MX bikes (SX) all have the linkage below the swing arm. The Enduro bikes (EXC and Freeride E-XC) both have the linkage above the swing arm. This was done to protect the rear suspension.

    • @ElectricCycleRider
      @ElectricCycleRider  Před rokem +1

      @@moltr00ps73 Thanks for the note! You're right. The KTM XC-W / EXC range use KTM's PDS rear shock, which has no linkage. The KTM SX / XC and Husky / GasGas bikes all utilize linkage suspension for both their MX / XC and Enduro bikes. Plenty of companies make skid plates that run underneath the linkage and I'm sure someone will come out with an option like that for the Storm Bee!

  • @davidsteinhour5562
    @davidsteinhour5562 Před rokem +2

    Seems like the "ride it to the trail, on the trail, and home" compromise. I dig it.

    • @gophop
      @gophop Před rokem +2

      better live close to that trail

  • @elih9588
    @elih9588 Před rokem +2

    Very diplomatic summary! 290lb bike that rides like a '80s dual sport. Maybe it would make a cool street supermoto

  • @milkobattiggi
    @milkobattiggi Před rokem +1

    Hi Tucker, thanks for making this video. What I am most curious about is how would the make do against a comparable gas powered bike, say an FE 350s? I thought it would be light but seems to come in heavier???

  • @marks-0-0
    @marks-0-0 Před rokem

    Do you think the Storm Bee would be suitable for slower more technical enduro events and general tecky fun ride outs? Thanks

  • @yarpenzigrin1893
    @yarpenzigrin1893 Před rokem +4

    Nice. I'd love to see that in a supermoto configuration as well. Would be an excellent city bike.

    • @HannahFortalezza
      @HannahFortalezza Před rokem

      Agreed! I feel like an electric supermoto would be the perfect combination

  • @paulb4uk
    @paulb4uk Před rokem

    Nice bit of kit looks great .

  • @joshba79
    @joshba79 Před rokem

    Thanks for the review. I'm looking forward to more info on how long can in be ridden in 1 day. I just got back from a 4 day trip where I rode around 60-70 miles per day (average of 5-6 bike running hours) in the Colorado mountains on a 2017 Husqvarna 450 FX. It used an average of 1.2 gal of gas per day on a mix of 30% dirt roads & 70% single track with lots of hill climbs. As you may know, mountain trails & mostly 50/50 up & down, with lots of big rocks & roots to hop over.
    Do you think this bike would do well in a trip like this?

  • @robertos4172
    @robertos4172 Před rokem

    Air cooled? (Seems so) any issues with power reductions as motor heats up? As a "dual sport" you would expect sustained high speed fire road capability without heat issues.

  • @aviadreis8088
    @aviadreis8088 Před rokem

    Hello, great video! I want to ask what is your setup for taking the videos? thanks

  • @MDUBZ
    @MDUBZ Před rokem +1

    Awesome video, was waiting for you to test out this bike! Question, how do you get your footage so smooth - just a GoPro10 with stabilization or also stabilizing extra in post?

    • @ElectricCycleRider
      @ElectricCycleRider  Před rokem +2

      @MDUBZ Thanks! I'm actually using the GoPro Hero 7 with stabilization. The Hero 10 has given me nothing but problems, it shuts itself off all the time and freezes. When it is working, the picture is very nice though!

  • @jmos96
    @jmos96 Před rokem

    Hope to see the full review quickly and a comparison with the Freeride and the Alta mxr.

  • @greg.peepeeface
    @greg.peepeeface Před rokem

    That bass hits

  • @adventure0ffroad858
    @adventure0ffroad858 Před rokem

    Sweet video, loved the speed!

  • @MrLethal1986
    @MrLethal1986 Před rokem

    Do you have any information on spare parts from sur ron? Eventually these bikes will start to fail, how easy is it going to be to get parts like bearings and bushings? I haven't got a clue on the sizing, if they are standard or all random.

  • @livingcheap811
    @livingcheap811 Před rokem

    where do you take these test rides im super curious on where those types of mountain trailrides are

  • @jochenschrey2909
    @jochenschrey2909 Před rokem

    Could you show the battery removal process? My garage has no wall socket. Do you see a chance to deploy a cart with a crane, for handling the battery? Thanks in advance.

  • @burgerbarn5000
    @burgerbarn5000 Před rokem

    Wherever you are riding, that place is awesome!!

  • @MerlinOlsen
    @MerlinOlsen Před rokem

    Looks fun as hell!

  • @reedkelly6145
    @reedkelly6145 Před rokem +1

    GREAT riding.
    OK so questions.....
    1Are the turn signals / head lamp LED?
    2Is the battery removable / swappable?
    3 Battery run time trail / city / highway
    4 TYPE of battery, LFP / NCA / NCM / Ternary?
    5 Charge time?
    6 Insure process, have the bike street legal? Does it require inspections, etc.?
    7 Are there tire options, I see knobs in the vide, but what about a more 50/50, stock?
    8 When will the price of the bike be available, and price of the battery?
    9 What maintenance is needed, I see chain not belt, so there is at least some maintenance, what else?
    10 Is the charger stored in the bike, I can go on linger trip and charge at 1/2 way point?
    11 Are all parts available on line, shipping to Canada, USA, Mexico?
    12 Expected life of bike / battery. Probably a guess, but will it hold up? Can I be riding it in 25 years time?
    13 Life of the electric motor, what motor is in it?
    14 Direct competitor? Love Zero but way to expensive. I would buy Zero if it was 50% cheaper.
    15 What about changing sprockets / gears to get a top end of a consistent highway 90mph?
    Ride to the trail, do trail riding, then ride home. Also use for work commute.
    16 Are components going to last and are they correct for this bike? Meaning, IMO the components on the similar Zero are for stopping at 200MPH, for jumping down 5 meters, are for bikes that weigh triple. All not needed. Big names sound cool, cost more, but on a say 200cc-350cc powered bike, are just not necessary.
    17 When looking for low cost, reliable, durable, not big flashy component part, not paying for brand name (Harley), just want it to work and last, is this a good bike for that? I am not a pro that needs top end Eqip.

  • @odedmazor2657
    @odedmazor2657 Před rokem

    Weighs the same as the Alta Redshift. How would you compare the two for Enduro riders?

  • @vne5195
    @vne5195 Před rokem

    You're fast and you made the bike like like tons of fun.

  • @philmoiz
    @philmoiz Před rokem +1

    Hey thanks for the great video! Which one would you take between the ktm freeride e-xc and the storm bee? For enduro and trail riding?

    • @ElectricCycleRider
      @ElectricCycleRider  Před rokem

      @Philippe Moisan Answer to your question here: czcams.com/video/dO-s4IBTYIc/video.html

    • @philmoiz
      @philmoiz Před rokem

      @@ElectricCycleRider Thanks, very good video.

  • @braaaaaains
    @braaaaaains Před rokem

    Mmm, coming from a DR650 in the Socal area, this might be my next bike. Thanks.

  • @scottbrand6894
    @scottbrand6894 Před rokem +1

    Great video! Can it be charged on north American 120/240volts?

  • @coltonross9751
    @coltonross9751 Před rokem +1

    Wow, those trails are technical!! Where is this video filmed? Also, do you think you could do another video on this bike like in 6 months or longer just to check up on it and see how it's holding up?
    I'll give a sub...

  • @MongrelShark
    @MongrelShark Před rokem +11

    Here in Australia the DRZ is fondly referred to as the "Bush Pig" Because its versatillity in the bush is amazing. But its a fat heavy pig too.
    Looking at the Storm Bee specs 2 years ago I flagged the storm bee as an electric bush pig. They even got the colour right. Its 50kg too heavy and a little low on power to be fun for sport riding but its a great fire trail get around. Sadly not many people have a need for that these days....
    Leaves me still longing for the sub 80kg CR500 replacement I know is possible. Maybe one day someone will get a stark varg motor into a light bee and then we will have something really cool.
    Re questions. Whats it sound like? Your voice audio was awesome quality, but I found it took away form the review because I couldn't hear the bike over the talking. Perhaps you can get a few mic on bike moments in future reviews?

    • @stevec7435
      @stevec7435 Před rokem

      I've heard those aus K5 bikes are great bang for your buck. Are they good compared to these?

    • @MongrelShark
      @MongrelShark Před rokem +1

      @@stevec7435 I haven't tried a K5. I have a light bee. I personally find mid drive to be much snappier and better unsprung weight. Hard to compare to a pedal assist hub drive.

  • @r.foshee1578
    @r.foshee1578 Před rokem

    will that left hand light module tighten down it looked a bit loose?

  • @aboveworld8209
    @aboveworld8209 Před rokem

    So do you now have to register this to ride it on the road ?

  • @stalink.eleftheros5708

    Which one is better to buy surron storm or stark varg alpha

  • @urbanpiping2305
    @urbanpiping2305 Před rokem

    Love my light bee x!! This thing looks knarly

  • @iang3728
    @iang3728 Před rokem

    Was this the bike sitting down at Motoclops last month? Thinking about picking up one of those talaria

  • @MichaelAbramo
    @MichaelAbramo Před rokem +1

    I am a broken record, but if e-moto manufacturers want to be serious about competition, they need to equip their enduro bikes with mechanical clutches. I can look past the fact that there is no gearbox (though I think a 3-speed or 4-speed gearbox would pair great with an enduro bike), but cannot look past the lack of clutch. Clutches are for finite control of power delivery to the rear wheel. Maybe the MX racers will be happy to get on a Stark Varg and ditch the clutch, but we enduro racers will not. All the e-trials competition bikes come with clutches for good reason. Enduro bikes need them as well. As for the Storm Bee, listening to your feedback and impressions, it sounds like the bike is sort of like the new KLX230 or CRF230F. A solid trail bike that will handily perform on most trails but maybe the geometry and suspension (and brakes?) are holding it back from being a true performer. Maybe the Storm Bee doesn't need a clutch, but then again, based on your description it's not a competition bike.

  • @ROGERWALDMAN
    @ROGERWALDMAN Před rokem

    could you do a top speed one the street and a range test on street / highway and dirt both miles and hours / minutes range estimate / make your best guess. also will there be battery range upgrades or quick swap / ways to add batteries for more range capabilities ?

  • @DingDongDrift
    @DingDongDrift Před rokem

    what do you think needs to change on it for it to be a bad ass dirt bike?

  • @Laruxo
    @Laruxo Před rokem +8

    Very timely review. I plan to order one here in Europe over the winter as it should be a good upgrade over CRF250L. Looking forward to see your full impressions! Also, would be interested to see a side by side comparison with the KTM Freeride (performance, range, etc).

    • @ElectricCycleRider
      @ElectricCycleRider  Před rokem +4

      @Laurynas Awesome to hear! In the chassis department, the Storm honestly feels quite similar to the CRF250L. In the power department, the Storm has a lot more torque! I'll definitely be doing some comparisons and range tests, stay tuned. 👍

    • @ElectricCycleRider
      @ElectricCycleRider  Před rokem

      @Laurynas Side by side comparison here: czcams.com/video/dO-s4IBTYIc/video.html

  • @fr3style
    @fr3style Před rokem +1

    How would you compare this to the STARK VARG? since this can be street legal its so much more of a sale for me. I am not a MX rider i just want a nice offroad bike that i can ride to work some times

  • @douggarvey4599
    @douggarvey4599 Před rokem

    How about the frame size? Big enough for a 5’11” rider with a dad bod?

  • @jonathantatler
    @jonathantatler Před rokem

    You had me at 'DR', I want one for town 👍

  • @jetrep
    @jetrep Před rokem

    Were you able to get the suspension working better?

  • @chuckwalters4759
    @chuckwalters4759 Před rokem

    will it be another 210v like the KTM because using a dryer plug option is dumb!

  • @joelblizzard160
    @joelblizzard160 Před rokem +2

    Looks pretty cool. The thing I'm curious about is really really slow trails, how does it do with slow uphill stuff? Is it just all down to throttle control? I'm just trying to understand how it works without a clutch to manage putting the power to the ground. I'm envisioning some stuff I've ridden where I'm climbing very loose/sandy steep trails and by the nature of the trail I can't have a lot of speed. I can feather the clutch and manage exactly how much wheelspin or no wheelspin I want at various points. Also is there a way to disengage the drive? Again I'm just struggling with the thought of no clutch, what if you want to free wheel roll down a hill with no resistance from the drivetrain?

    • @allegorx58
      @allegorx58 Před rokem

      computers man. esc’s handle most of that

    • @buckdashe2571
      @buckdashe2571 Před rokem

      Have to say, I’m totally weirded out by the REAR brake being where the front brake usually is on a motorcycle.

  • @michaelanderson3771
    @michaelanderson3771 Před rokem

    Hey Tucker What is your weight with gear.
    The Storm Bee enduro just landed in Aus this past few weeks and the max rider weight stated 100 kg (224 lbs) anyone over that needs to upgrade suspension. Not sure if just a spring or if new full rear shock required. Dealer not sure at moment. Too new for them to know.
    RRP in Aus =AUD 14,490.00 plus on roads as it is road reg capable.
    Interested to see what range or riding time is in real world single track like you were doing.
    In Aus trailer to bush and ride for a 6-8 hr day -I guess will require a generator to charge back up if range is not great.
    Love your content

  • @seamarsh3756
    @seamarsh3756 Před rokem +1

    Can’t get past that vertical shock angle.. what’s up with that? Seems like it would blow through stroke super easily without any progression..

  • @becomer1
    @becomer1 Před rokem

    It would be so weird riding a dirt bike without that 2 or 4 stroke sound bellowing from the frame below. I think part of the joy of riding comes from that sound..

  • @quattroblacksheep1156

    @Electric Cycle Rider where is this? THE TERRAIN IS AWESOME & BEAUTIFUL. GREAT VIDEO THANKS.

  • @tbrinkley112
    @tbrinkley112 Před rokem

    OMG!! So exciting. If I lived in Ca.

  • @joebarczak1448
    @joebarczak1448 Před rokem

    In the start up sequence, did u say the right hand is the rear brake?

  • @davidlee50
    @davidlee50 Před rokem

    What is a defect on the stock rear tube?, nipple issue?

  • @TheShrini23
    @TheShrini23 Před rokem +1

    on Eco Mode what kinda range or how many hours of riding you are able to get outta it? I am not bothered about top speed but wondering the range and how many hours or riding is really critical

    • @ElectricCycleRider
      @ElectricCycleRider  Před rokem

      Storm Bee battery range test video: czcams.com/video/M7OdA4gijjg/video.html

  • @samhall6764
    @samhall6764 Před 3 měsíci

    Range is the only curiosity I ever have with these things how much battery did you use ? And can I go out for the day on one charge ?

  • @orangeponygsxr9366
    @orangeponygsxr9366 Před rokem

    I have a older drz400e that is good for me that thing looks fun and I don't usually like electric stuff I want to see the range on that bad boy

  • @noidea1962
    @noidea1962 Před rokem

    That looks like the terrain I'm used to riding here in the Black Hills of South Dakota. I'm really interested in an electric dirt bike, just to see how much more wildlife I can 'sneak' up on. I see a TON of deer, turkeys and once in a great while, a coyote...how much more would I get to see with a much quieter bike. Good ride, thanks.

  • @ElectricCycleRider
    @ElectricCycleRider  Před rokem +16

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    • @howiefine3074
      @howiefine3074 Před rokem +1

      How easy is it to swap out batteries? Why is the bike so heavy?

    • @Corn-ped
      @Corn-ped Před rokem +1

      I'd love to see a comparison against the Freeride

    • @martinfoster5163
      @martinfoster5163 Před rokem +3

      @@howiefine3074 The battery is easy to swap out. It's heavy 30kg (66 lbs) which is what makes the bike heavy. In other respects the bike is made of strong / heavy components. I believe this makes it more durable. If it were designed for competition, they could definitely make it a lot lighter with a lighter battery (less cells) but shorter range and lighter frame and forks. However, it wouldn't go far or handle falls as well. Everything is a compromise. I don't feel like it's too heavy personally and I own one.
      That being said, if Surron offered a considerably lighter battery with a commensurate shorter range, I'd be interested. Say 10kg (1/3 the weight) for 35km range (1/3 of the range). That would save 20kg (44 lbs) of total weight.

    • @TwistedTriggerEnduro
      @TwistedTriggerEnduro Před rokem +1

      As an enduro rider, I'm interested. Just worried about the battery life and did you say 291 pounds? That's probably gonna be another deal breaker :/
      Maybe I'm just counting the days (or years) until I'm on electric. 💪😁👍

    • @johnandcristinfrizellracin2128
      @johnandcristinfrizellracin2128 Před rokem

      Does it get rid of the belt setup for a grear box.

  • @meekdook4236
    @meekdook4236 Před rokem

    Is it waterproof like the ktm?
    Is there a sm-version?

  • @jeffb8562
    @jeffb8562 Před rokem

    So where do you charge it, and how long does it take?

  • @hookedonfishing2095
    @hookedonfishing2095 Před rokem

    When will they be available for order?

  • @rwolfcastle
    @rwolfcastle Před rokem +6

    Heck yeah! Can't wait for your full review! I would love to know your thoughts when compared to the KTM FR.
    I mainly ride trials, light Enduro, and some woods riding. I bought a Talaria as proof of concept and always thought the KTM was my end goal, but who knows maybe it will be the Stormbee.

    • @ElectricCycleRider
      @ElectricCycleRider  Před rokem +1

      @R Wolfcastle For sure! I'll get into detail and address that in the coming videos. Thanks for the note 👍

    • @SunKing2010
      @SunKing2010 Před rokem +1

      Have the Husky 501 and ride same as you except moderate to technical enduro. Bought the talaria sting for my wife and me to ride around town on the bike trails and love them! Ordered the Stark Varg and can't wait for delivery. The 501 weighs 260 loaded with gear and fuel BTW. I have full faith the electric bikes will take over sooner than later.

    • @ElectricCycleRider
      @ElectricCycleRider  Před rokem +5

      @@SunKing2010 I'm a big fan of the 501! A very close friend of mine owns a 2019 and it's been an awesome machine. Cool to hear you've got the Sting to ride around. Very different from your 501 but super fun in the right environment. My hope is for the eMoto bikes to eventually solve the range (and charging) dilemma. If and when that happens, there will be some hard decisions to be made when it comes time to buy a bike... Still 2T and 4T bikes in my garage until that time comes though.

    • @elgringoec
      @elgringoec Před rokem +1

      @@SunKing2010
      I had a great ride on my friend's 501! I have a 300 but I love that bike too.

    • @ElectricCycleRider
      @ElectricCycleRider  Před rokem +1

      @GeoMac Granddad Both awesome bikes!!

  • @maximusmiles8435
    @maximusmiles8435 Před rokem

    When you pushed the high low beam button. Did I see the cluster move?

  • @justprospecting697
    @justprospecting697 Před rokem

    I just woke up from a very long sleep and after watching your video I feel tired again

  • @jamiecameron4700
    @jamiecameron4700 Před rokem +1

    Great vid! I have just bought a KTM E-XC. I am keen to know more about your Storm BEE. Can you give an indication of miles or time you get per charge. Also what time of riding this is on. Mode too. highest mode or an in between mode? I am not sure about the KTM and thinking of swapping it in for a storm BEE. Thanks in advance.

  • @powamoto
    @powamoto Před rokem +1

    Cool dirt bike thing rips boi 💯⚡💥👀

  • @medienmond
    @medienmond Před rokem +1

    how does this bike compare ps wise to ice motorcycles? is it compareable to a 125cc engine? i am asking this because of the driving license one would have to own, to legally ride this bike,

  • @acurarl9929
    @acurarl9929 Před rokem

    Wat about re gearing it for lower top speed and more pick up

  • @mylifeinthailand8751
    @mylifeinthailand8751 Před rokem

    What type of helmet would you wear? An MX or maybe a full face MTB helmet

  • @fivetwentythreepov
    @fivetwentythreepov Před rokem +1

    Great vid, I am curious to see what models they offer, like maybe a strictly dirt model or a true dual sport or mx model. Keep ‘em coming👍.

    • @michaelanderson3771
      @michaelanderson3771 Před rokem +1

      They do have a storm Bee MX - same bike without lights horn or blinkers. In Aus $1000.00 less than the enduro kit

    • @fivetwentythreepov
      @fivetwentythreepov Před rokem

      @@michaelanderson3771 oh that sounds sweet. Hopefully they will start becoming easily available soon thanks.

  • @Noiconnotag
    @Noiconnotag Před rokem +1

    I 'm thinking about getting something like this for around the world touring. What would be the range for a full charge, and how much can it carry once modified with panniers and such ? (assuming a person with luggage).

    • @ElectricCycleRider
      @ElectricCycleRider  Před rokem +1

      I'll try to cover your other questions in the review but in the meantime, here is the Storm Bee battery range test video: czcams.com/video/M7OdA4gijjg/video.html

  • @speedbird737
    @speedbird737 Před rokem

    I own the storm bee in the UK only ridden 20 miles in 11 months since taking delivery. I must get out more! You should put hand guards on it - bike looks better with them!

  • @quattroblacksheep1156

    I love the way they look, I love the idea of having one... BUT charging one and 100 pounds heavier than my husqy 350. This is something I could only own if I kept my stable.

  • @human1513
    @human1513 Před rokem

    Overall a good bike. Not a mx bike but most people use a bike like you rode this today.

  • @allenanthony2651
    @allenanthony2651 Před rokem

    Great video! Questions: frame size of the bike? (Storm bee is small) , charge duration vs storm bee , and suspension

    • @ElectricCycleRider
      @ElectricCycleRider  Před rokem +1

      @Allen Anthony I'll address that! It is much larger than a Lightbee X. Full size dirt bike.

  • @oliviergagnon2592
    @oliviergagnon2592 Před rokem

    Nice review thanks

  • @robg112
    @robg112 Před rokem +2

    My biggest concern is the throttle control.. Does it feel like your riding a on/off motor.. or smooth roll on from bottom to top of the power curve?

    • @TheCraigy83
      @TheCraigy83 Před rokem

      Same , i like the slack you get from two strokes & their clutch and dislike the clunky eager industrial feel of four strokes they're unforgiving , their like an angle grinder vs a cordless drill

  • @Mikesroadtrip-ec5kp
    @Mikesroadtrip-ec5kp Před rokem

    How long did the battery last? Miles and time

  • @dreadfog
    @dreadfog Před rokem

    What’s going on with the master cylinders and the cables looping so high?