Use your Airplay2 Speakers with your AppleTV
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- čas přidán 16. 07. 2018
- In this Tips & Tricks video, we'll look at setting up the default audio settings on your AppleTV to automatically play to multiple Airplay2 compatible Audio sources.
Although this won't give you full front/back/left/right surround sound, it can allow you to have at least front and back audio sources leveraging your existing TV sound and a pair of Airplay2 compatible speakers such as the Apple HomePod or Sonos Ones.
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Omg thanks i was wanting a projector setup with apple tv and projector but i know sound is a pain in the %$# with sonos and projectors now i have the info i needed thanks!!!!!
Hi can i used both sound HDMI with surround 5.1system and airplay sonos??
Does the volume on the ATV remote adjust the volume of the airplay device?
Question - Can i have one TV hooked up to a apple TV output to four or more sonos speakers?
Looking to extend the sound down a 40 footish room. ...
Also looking at getting the ikea Symfonisk speakers.
don't care about stereo ...
You can definitely output to multiple airplay2 targets if that's your question. Apple even let's you pay around with the airplay2 delay in the ATV settings now in case there's a slight discrepancy between the audio playback.
Although not asked in the question, I wanted to offer my experience. In it's current form, you don't want to use Airplay2 for your home theatre setup. In the end I picked up a Sonos Beam for a few reasons for this use case.
1) Because of the way Airplay2 was implemented on the Apple TV ( not part of core service but needed to be implemented in the apps ) I wasn't able to play Airplay2 from all my streaming sources. Some poorly designed apps didn't implement the Airplay2 function so I was left with nothing.
2) Alternate Audio sources need love too. I have a Amazon FireTV as well as the Gaming console for the kids. Both of those needed better sound as well.
3) Sonos 5.0/1 setup is more reliable. I was able to use any matched pair of Sonos speakers ( Symfonisk would work ) as my rears and it worked great.
If you wanted to add additional Sonos speakers at the far end of the room, you can also group multiple Sonos systems together. So instead of the airplay2 to multiple targets you could have
iPhone > SonosGroup1 >SonosGroup2
Hopefully this makes sense!
Hi, when you’re watching a movie can you AirPlay the audio from the video simultaneously throughout more than 1 Airplay 2 device as shown in your video or you can only AirPlay music throughout multiple devices? Thanks in advance.
Wow. What a great question! So... it doesn’t appear that you can airplay from a phone/iPad to a video and an audio device at the same time. But... you CAN airplay to AppleTV from your phone/iPad, then you can use airplay audio from the AppleTV to multiple Airplay2 targets. No way that I’ve found (yet) to Airplay2 video to 2 different airplay 2 targets at the same time. Great question!!!
Great video, it works great on my house. However, Airplay 2 won't play music on both my Apple TV and my Sonos speakers if I use Spotify or Pandora, it only works if I use Itunes. Do you know if there is a way to allow my Apple TV to let me play Spotify music to my Apple TV and my Sonos speakers at the same time?
Hey Diego - I havens tested to see if this is different with iOS 14 or not, but this was one of the issues with the Apple TV. The Airplay2 feature needs to be written in to the app, it wasn't an automatic feature from the Apple TV. It might be that you'll have to play Spotify or Pandora from your phone to the AP2 speakers rather than using your Apple TV as the source. Pandora's not even available in Canada still so I'm really no help there at all. :(
Hi, thanks for your video. When you output simultaneously to your Airplay2 HomePod and your HDMI TV (teevee), did you try to control the output volume with your Apple TV remote? I can’t while streaming a movie. I have to disable the output towards HDMI. Any idea? Thanks. Edit: I don’t mean to control the volume of the TV as a device, just the output towards HDMI.
Off the top of my head it’s a little fuzzy. I know that there was definitely some tricks to be played to get it to output to the right targets and co trio volume. If memory serves me, I think you had to steam to the AppleTV (teevee). Then have the Apple TV also airplay2 to the speakers. It was one of the quirks that made me move in the Sonos Beam direction. Just too many caveats in its current form. Rumours that iOS14 is going to re-architect the Airplay2 feature to be more of the core OS. Hopefully that will helps a lot. Let me know if this helps? I’ll see if I can dig a bit into this but because of my setup it requires tearing some things apart. :)
Hi, how can I pair my Apple TV 3rd generation with a Bluetooth speaker?
If my TV supports Airplay 2, can I use airplay to stream sound to my Sonos one pair ?
Probably not - your TV is most likely a Airplay2 target, not an Airplay source. you could use an iPhone/iPad to play to both the TV and the Sonos at the same, time, but your TV can't be used to push audio to your AP2 speakers.
Great video, Chris! However, I don't see the option of Audio Output this on my Apple TV OS 14.2 ?
Hey Joshua, I haven’t double checked this on tvOS14.2 but I imagine it’s probably changed since this video was recorded. 14.2 is the first version to give us a “real” audio output, not to mention the full Home Theatre support with the ATV4K and OG HomePods. I wish I had a better answer for you, but it sounds like this video is going to need some updating. :)
Thanks, Chris! I pinged my friend who works at Apple and he told me you can now do this by clicking on the top right button (that looks like a screen) and that will show you the Airplay Outputs
Yup. That’s definitely an option as well. Depending on the app, the other option is to swipe down from the top of the screen and you might see audio options in there as well. The new default output is going to be really cool for people who live purely in the Apple ecosystem!
Hi Joshua, unfortunately on tvOS14.4 the option Audio Output is disappeared from the Video & Audio settings. This means that I’m not able to set an Airplay (Sonos) as a default speaker. I need to set it every time and that is very very annoying. Do you have any advice?
@@giovannibenuzzi9950 I'm not sure if I really have a solution for you here. This article explains how you can play the Apple TV Audio through the HomePod (in your case I'm guessing Sonos Speakers).
support.apple.com/guide/tv/play-audio-throughout-your-home-atvb50fb1c50/tvos
Try this important instruction: "Before you start, make sure you’ve assigned a room to your Apple TV. Your HomePod (or HomePod stereo pair) must be connected to the same network and set up in the same room as your Apple TV 4K using the Home app on an iOS, iPadOS, or macOS (running Catalina or later) device"
The second option seems to be to connect to the Airplay Speakers. More info under this title- "Control audio on multiple AirPlay 2-enabled devices"
Hopefully, this works for you.
I have one doubt, I brought Airport express 2nd generation because it has Airplay and Aux out for audio. so while watching movies/series on Apple TV can I send audio to Airport express which supports Airplay and further the output to my speakers via AUX? i have these old Razer Mako 2.1 THX which I want to use with Apple TV. The above steps should work right? Thank you.
That does sound right to me! One thing to be aware of is that the Apps on the AppleTV have to support Airplay2 as well as far as I’m aware. Netflix and AppleTV content should be good for sure but you may run into issues with some other apps. We had a couple of local TV station apps in Canada who didn’t have support but I’m assuming most major streaming players should be fine.
Thanks for great video.
I have one question.
I bought 2 sonos one on amazon prime day and waiting for delivery.
I already have two ios devices and Apple TV 4k.
If I play music on iphone to paired sonos ones
Do I have to register sonos again on Apple tv (to use airplay sound output)?
If it's not, what happens if I am playing music through Iphone, and Apple TV try to sound out to same sonos speakers?
I think that the music would pause. But not sure.....
Sorry for bad english.
No apology necessary! Your English is great. This is a bit of a tough question. So let’s split it I to parts. You will not have to REGISTER the Sonos on the AppleTV abut you may have to re-connect it. I hope the difference makes sense. If you play from your phone to the Pair I’d Sonos devices, the phone will be holding the Sonos connection so the TV swill just play out through it’s normal speakers. The other thing to be aware of is that Apple l, for some reason, made the Airplay2 part of the app and not the TV. There are some apps that don’t support the Airplay2 function so wont play through the Sonos. The way I dealt with that was putting a Sonos Beam into my setup which connects through HDMI. By using the TV audio output directly it grabs all audio and you don’t have to wonder whether a new app has the Airplay2 function in it. Hope this helps!
Wow thanx for detailed reply
Seems like similar to dlna
I thought it's like Bluetooth cuz I have never used airplay to apple TV.
I saw that netflix blocked the airplay.
Hope that at least didn't block the airplay sound out from Apple Tv
lol
Have a good day
렌즈셔틀 my pleasure! It’s not a bad setup at all, but there was enough small issues that I jumped on the Beam when it was released. The Beam isn’t perfect either as it can get a bit confusing when you can actually get audio out from your Sonos by either playing Airplay2 to your AppleTV or playing directly to you Sonos. Not sure if you found the other videos but including a playlist here. czcams.com/play/PLIdK6RdGwb3TJakzf0W_KuzKajSDUHVIW.html
Does anyone know of a way to make an iPad always play to a airplay2 speaker? I have an iPad in the kitchen that I never to play through it’s internal speaker. Activating airplay all the time to get it to play through an external speaker is not fun.
Same goes with another iPad with a bad internal speaker. It would be nice to have that always play through an external speaker instead of having to swipe up and send to a HomePod.
Thanks
Unfortunately, I don't know of a way, at least yet ( July 2018 ) to force the iPad to play to a specific audio target. Assuming the iPad's mounted or at least always within range, you might have better luck connecting it using Bluetooth audio which does seem to retain the connection over time. Being able to select a default audio source for the iPad or iPhone would definitely be a great feature I'd love to see too. As time goes on, lots of repurposed iphones/ipads could stay useful.
Hi Chris,
Just to clarify, does this mean that with an apple tv 4k I could watch netflix or an itunes movie on my tv but send the sound to a pair of sonos one speakers via airplay?
I’m looking to pickup a pair of sonos one sl speakers but wanted to know if this is possible as I do not want a soundbar. If so do you know if the speakers would play in stereo or would they each play the same audio? I would be using them along with an LG C9 if that makes any difference
Hey @Levi. - Short version - Yes. If you setup the two Sonos SL's as a stereo group in the Sonos App, they will be exposed as a single Airplay2 target. You SHOULD be able to play to them from most ATV apps, but it does need to be implemented in the app itself ( Netflix, and any Apple content are fine ). Personally, I made the move to the sounder because of the inconsistency of the AP2 experience. Certain apps didn't support it yet, as well, I also wanted something that would work for all the content connected to my TV ( game console, FireTv, etc... ( which of course the Airplay2 solution won't work for. As a heads up, it can be inconsistent so you may have to reselect the target when moving between shows or apps. But in general, it does work and it sounds great. There are rumour that Apple is aware of the issues and is addressing them in tvOS14 but it's entirely possible that those are just rumours. Buy on what's today and hope for the best. So in wrap up - Does it work? Sure. Is it Consistent? Nope. Is it consistent enough? Probably.
I do with my iPad or watching from my Mac and hearing on Sonos, but the problem is when you watch a film the audio is out sync.
Did u ever try this? in that case, let me know if they worked in stereo mode and if its consistent :) I also want to skip the 270-400 dollar soundbar pricetag...
Quick tip: If you need to capture your TV with a camera, close all the windows in the room/adjacent rooms. It will limit reflections off the TV and allow you to stand your camera directly infront of it
Really appreciate the tip! Need to do a follow up on Hue sync so this will come in handy!
Nobody talks about the little lag that exists when you play on the TV via HDMI (direct to analog speakers) + AirPlay2 device (Homepod). It's a small desynchronization that creates a frustrating echo effect. It's a shame, because the Apple TV could be a cheaper and much more versatile "SONOS Connect", but it isn’t...
Is your ATV connected via WIFI air Ethernet (cable). Could be that the dessyncronization is due to the delay from the wifi. My ATV is cable connected so I never noticed a delay. I did have a noticeable delay/Echo with the Sonos Beam though u TIL I plugged it in too. Could be that your wifi is causing some issues with the audio. You might want to try plugging the ATV aim and see if it resolves at all. Strangely, the ATV to Homepod with Airplay2 was fine. The issue was just the Sonos Beam. Once I plugged the Beam into my network. No more issues.
I would like to stream from iOS/macOS device to AppleTV with sound playing from Sonos One but when I select it to play on Sonos One it stops mirroring on the AppleTV. Is there going to be an update for Airplay 2 to allow to stream audio and video separetely, so I could solve this issue? Thanks
Hi Nick - I honestly don’t know and haven’t encountered that exact issue. You might want to hit up Apple and Sonos support to make sure they are aware of it. It sounds totally reasonable as a request. My guess is that it will probably be resolved quickly as more people start to use it and complain. The CES announcements with all the TVs supporting Airplay2 suggests that Apple will be making a lot of investment in this technology over the coming year.
Thanks for your reply, hopefully they will adress this issue in some of the next updates
Hi Chris! I just got a SONOS Play 5 and want to use it with mu apple tv 4k, but, how do you connect the sonos and apple tv? thanks
Hey @pit Asgard - are the steps in the video not clear? Or maybe they changed due to iOS changing? If you give me an idea of where you’re getting stuck I’ll do my best to help out! The short version is you setup the Apple TV to play to the Sonos Play:5 as an Airplay2 target. Important to remember that the Airplay2 piece needs to be implemented in the App as well. You should be fine with Apple iTunes content as well as Netflix. But you might have issues with some less popular apps.
@@Homekitgeek Hi, the problem is when I go to the Video and audio in my apple tv, I don't see the SONOS, only the HDMI output, the SONOS is connected the the wifi
@@ssapinn I am in the same boat. Was there any clarification on how to fix this?
Michael Jordan Jr. im on also on this boat...
Just got a Sonos Move and I connected it to my AppleTV. However, It doesn't automatically connect with audio output. Is there a way to do that.
Unfortunately the answer right now is “kind of”. You can set the Move as the default audio source in the ATV settings, but if the app developer hasn’t implemented the AP2 function in the app, it won’t work. So it’s inconsistent at best. There are rumours that this is going to be fixed in iOS 14 but u too it’s released we have to live with what we’ve got. I do wish I had a better answer for you.
@@Homekitgeek I really appreciate it. Regardless, this is pretty amazing still.
Do you need to always select the airplay speakers or are they always default?
While I was using this they did turn on automatically assuming the tvOS application did support the AirPlay function. Issue I found with this is that not all apps support AirPlay giving an inconsistent experience. Once I upgraded to the full Sonos Beam I was able to use the HDMI link to get audio to all my speakers. The AirPlay was totally workable for the Apple Apps and Netflix, but upgrading to the Sonos Beam was worth it in my mind. Hope this helps?
Chris Young When you mirror your iDevice to the TV, does it disconnect the airplay 2 speaker? I’m asking because it happens with the HomePod.
My problem is when I play movie on my Apple TV 4K and include my homepod, the television screen returns to the home screen and there is no television audio while the audio continues on my homepod. When I disconnect from the homepod my television audio and video returns to television screen. I want to watch movies on my television with sound output on both the television speaker and my homepod. What is the problem and how do I solve it? Please help. Thank You!
Hey Philip, This is going to depend on the specific app you’re trying to play content from. Just tested this from Netflix and although it does turn off the TV audio instantly, you can just select the TV Apple TV audio again and it does play off both audio targets at the same time. Hoping this helps!
@@Homekitgeek Thank You!
Hi, Is it possible to setup by default the sound of the Apple TV 4K to sonos Beam ?
So the answer is “no” to that question…. BUT…. Assuming your Sonos beam is connected to the ARC port on the same television that the ATV is connected to - the Beam will automatically be the default audio target for every audio source - including the Apple TV - that is plugged into the television. Does that make sense?
@@Homekitgeek I found this tip. Do you Know ? czcams.com/video/wb4-U0TUB0Y/video.html
what to do if i cant add any speakers. it all connected on wifi and on my apple home app but as default speaker it only allows me to select tv speakers. it used to do it before but not anymore. help
Hi Olga! It may be that this no longer works with the latest version of iOS. I know that Apple made some modifications allowing you to use HomePods (OG and Mini) as the default speakers. I’m guessing this may have changed the older function.
Same here. I’ve spent hours trying to figure out why Apple TV isn’t allowing Sonos One as a default. It’s only showing TV Speakers as default and not anything else. So frustrating - why would Apple remove a good feature like this?
And thank you for this video Chris! There aren’t enough videos on this subject. 🙂
Hello i can connect Bluetooth 3 hedphone sony wh-1000xm3
Yes. Apple TV supports bluetooth. I haven’t tried the Sony headphones specifically but there’s no reason to believe they shouldn’t work. :)
@@Homekitgeek ok Can I connect more than one headset at the same time ???
Question: Can a TV that is AirPlay 2 Enabled support 2 Sonos ones as audio output ?
Absolutely. There’s actually two options here. You could play to the two (or more) separate Sonos Ones (or any other Airplay2 compatible speakers) OR you could create a stereo pair out of the Sonos Ones which would present a single Airplay2 target BUT would be able to play the stream in Stereo.
Chris Young Thanks for the great tutorial! Is there any audio delay or a/v syncing issues when you use Sonos Ones stereo pairs as audio output of Apple TV?
@@benpooh I've seen issues with a/v sync when I had the Sonos on straight wifi. When I plugged one of the Sonos wired the sync issue totally went away. There's also some new settings in the Apple TV settings screen that can help deal with audio sync issues.
Chris Young Glad to hear that. Thanks for the important infomation. I'm planning to get 2 Ones and it's good news that they can totally work with Apple TV. I'm not choosing the Beam or Playbar for now because they are somewhat outdated (spec-wise like Dolby Digital only) for home theater setup in 2020 so there might be an update to those soon. The Ones may do the job for now and turn into rears in the future when I get the updated Beam/Playbar. What's your opinion?
If you were to say have a HomePod and the new Bose smart speaker that has airplay 2 capability, can they be merged together for dual speakers?
Hey Jordan! Great question with a bit of a tricky answer. You CAN use airplay2 to both speakers (or more) - so in that sense the answer is yes. You can’t create a stereo pair out of the two though. I haven’t played with the Bose, but based on experience with the HomePods, Sonos, and Amazon Echos which do stereo pairing - you will need two speakers of the exact same model if you want then to do stereo and act like a single unit. Hope this answers your question!
Chris Young Thank You for your response.
No problem! If you pick up a pair of Bose definitely let us know how they work out!
Hey @@Homekitgeek, I am happy to report to you that I have both the HomePod and the Bose Portable Home Speaker. The airplay 2 support works on both of them and works simultaneously as dual speakers going off at once.
Hey @Jordan! That’s great news! I love it when things work as expected! Really appreciate you circling back to share your experience!
I get echo effect how do I get rid of that? Not sure if you would know. Thanks in advance
Hey Tony! I haven’t personally encountered this but if memory serves there was a new delay setting added in the Apple TV for external speakers that might be able to help you out here. Definitely let us know if you’re able to get it resolved and what the fix was!
Chris Young I have to choose the JBL soundbar and HomePod. For some reason the HDMI one will give it an echo effect. 🤷♂️ annoying to have to do
Yeah I can understand how that would be annoying. I had something similar with Sonos products. The fix for them was to plug the Sonos soundbar (Beam) into wired Ethernet directly. After that things worked properly. Good luck!
Can you stream from your Apple TV to a pair of Sonos Ones(stereo)?
This is sort of a trick question. Let me explain Can you stream from an Apple TV to two Sonos Ones - Yes. Is it stereo? No - it’s the same stream to two different Sonos Ones. BUT... If you have the Sonos Ones configure as a stereo group (L/R pair) they will appear as a single Airplay2 target in the AppleTV airplay list. The Sonos then takes care of the stereo signal portion. Hopefully this makes sense?
@@Homekitgeek Thank you so much. It makes perfect sense. I have one Sonos One and I was wondering about that. I´m perfectly fine with the default Netflix app (4k) from my tv, but, my tv (or any tv) won´t have Airplay. So I´m considering buying a Apple TV 4K and a second Sonos One and create a Stereo Pair. I know the stereo pair works for apps like Spotify but I didn´t know the pair showed like a pair to Apple TV, enabling stereo mode for Netflix playback. Thank you again. And sorry if I didn´t make myself clear, because english isn´t my first language.
No problem at all! One thing to watch out on the AppleTV SI’s that not all apps support playing to Airplay targets. On the bright side, Netflix does support this so you should be ok. :). And your English is very clear it’s just a tricky question. What’s your first language?
@@Homekitgeek Portuguese (Brazil). I'm considering my options since Apple TV would be used for Netflix only. It's a bit pricey just for Netflix. I moved to Android two months ago, but I still have my 8 Plus in case I choose to go this way (Airplay). The other option is a sound bar from LG (SK9). But with that I'd miss the chance to stream directly from my phone. There's no perfect choice, I suppose hehe. What would you choose? Extra Sonos One + Apple TV or the sound bar?
LOL Que beleza! Pra mIm eu acho que o Beam ou o Playbar e o melhor. Eu falo também. ;). The soundboard is probably the better choice in that it uses HDMI ARC from your TV so you’ll get the benefits regardless of if you’re using an AppleTV, DVD player, cable box or anything else plugged into your TV. With the ATV + Sonos One you will be limited to the specific apps on the ATV that support AirPlay and the just the Sonos music sources. hope this helps!
Do this setup also works when watching TV? I’m wondering to have two Sonos One for music and movies connected to an Apple TV via AirPlay 2
This will work but only for content that’s played through the AppleTV - or more accurately for apps on the AppleTV which support airplay2. If you’re looking for a solution for the TV and any audio sources finding a sound bar, like the Sonos Beam for instance, that supports HDMI ARC (audio return channel) is a much better solution in my opinion. I tried the Airplay for a bit and then decided to upgrade for better sound and flexibility as the Sonos Beam ARC allows me to use audio from any source connected to my TV.
Too bad you can not set AirPlay as default audio output. Apple TV always switches back to physical Apple TV output, which is really annoying. I got a setup of two Sonos One speakers and every time I want to watch TV, no matter if it's CZcams or Netflix or whatever, I have to go to the settings and switch to Airplay audio output manually.
Definitely agree. This behaviour pushed me to pickup a Sonos Beam. There are rumours that iOS14 will “fix” this behaviour. Hope mould will have more details soon!
My Audio & Video just alows me to change from Auto to 16bit
Hey Do0rBellsUp. Not 100% clear on which setting you're referring to here. If you're saying the Airplay2 is not showing up I'd suggest you make sure you're speakers and appleTV is connected to the same network as the first step. Do you have the Airplay2 speakers added into Homekit?
It’s okay, we’ve returned the speakers
This video is extremely hard to follow. It's way too fast. Would be more helpful to have a step by step guide. You already had everything setup and connected. I wanted to know how to connect my Sonos Speakers too my Apple TV for the first time.
Sounds like you jumped into a video that at assumed you had this already partially setup - sorry that wasn’t clear! we will see if we can get you through this. What kind of Sonos speakers do you have and where are you at in the setup?
@@Homekitgeek So i have a Sonos Play 1 and an Apple TV 3. Both setup on the same network. When i go into Audio Output i don't know how to add my Speaker.
@@Homekitgeek It just shows HDMI
Ok! This helps - The Sonos Play:1 is the older model of Sonos speakers and unfortunately, didn't get the Airplay2 updates. Short version is that you're not going to be able to do this with the setup you have.
@@Homekitgeek oh that sucks :( Then you!