Why Young Men Feel Lost - Connor Tomlinson
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Connor Tomlinson is a writer and podcast host at LotusEaters.com. He was a co-founder and Head of Research at the British Conservation Alliance (2019-2022). He published the research paper, “It’s Easy being Green”, with The Adam Smith Institute, which shaped the Nuclear Energy (Financing) Bill (2022). He is a political commentator for GB News and TalkTV, a contributor to The Critic magazine, and wrote regular columns for the Global Warming Policy Foundation, C3 Solutions Magazine, and The American Spectator. He holds a Masters in English from the University of Kent.
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00:00 Introduction
00:31 What's Happening with Gen Z?
05:04 Institutional Gaslighting of Gen Z Boys
08:34 The Current Identity Crisis
12:53 Using Social Media to Fill a Void
15:38 Sponsor Message: Monetary Metals
17:32 Reality is Unappealing to Gen Z
21:22 What's Stopping Gen Z From a Meaningful Life?
25:46 Gen Z’s Lack of Freedom to Do Things of Value
29:39 Options for Solving Economic Pressures
32:55 Sponsor Message: ExpressVPN
34:25 Dwindling Concentration Spans
38:46 Inaccurate Portrayals of Gen Z
41:57 Who Has Responsibility to Raise Children?
45:13 Is a Backlash Coming?
48:06 Sponsor Message: Superbeets
49:27 A Disconnect With Democracy
56:49 Is the Establishment's Media Crumbling?
1:00:17 What's the One Thing We're Not Talking About?
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CHAPTERS👇
00:00 Introduction
00:31 What's Happening with Gen Z?
05:04 Institutional Gaslighting of Gen Z Boys
08:34 The Current Identity Crisis
12:53 Using Social Media to Fill a Void
15:38 Sponsor Message: Monetary Metals
17:32 Reality is Unappealing to Gen Z
21:22 What's Stopping Gen Z From a Meaningful Life?
25:46 Gen Z’s Lack of Freedom to Do Things of Value
29:39 Options for Solving Economic Pressures
32:55 Sponsor Message: ExpressVPN
34:25 Dwindling Concentration Spans
38:46 Inaccurate Portrayals of Gen Z
41:57 Who Has Responsibility to Raise Children?
45:13 Is a Backlash Coming?
48:06 Sponsor Message: Superbeets
49:27 A Disconnect With Democracy
56:49 Is the Establishment's Media Crumbling?
1:00:17 What's the One Thing We're Not Talking About?
Waffle with Wafflers?
@@5heffPaul It's a new genre called 'Waffletainment' or 'Commentatortainment', where everyone comments and no one has ideas.
We don't need a fuoking model made up by some politicians we need to serve we need to taught mental health so we could protect our families for ourself without some selfish mor, on interfering it.
As a saying goes it's better to taught how to fish then giving it.
So BSing for attention and clicks huh. It worked, congrats.
I get the need for product placement and ads. But for the sake of headphone wearers, can you at least keep them the same volume as the rest of the podcast?
Young men feel lost. I'm an old man and feel lost. I don't think it is a generational thing. Our world is a disaster because it is being engineered by people who have no business engineering society.
couldnt agree more
For the people that are socially engineering the problem just wait all the people you put down that are lonely depressed will be inspire to be villains just look at joker
Joker: …when you cross a mentally ill loner with a society that abandons him and treats him like trash!?
Murray: Call the police, Gene, call the police.
Joker: I’ll tell you what you get! You get what you fucking deserve!
[Arthur shoots Murray in the head]
Although there is some credibility in your statement however it is only a feeling, therefore you can choose to either engage in that feeling or not. So,are you a half full glass man or a half empty glass man. You choose!
Get yourself off the armchair, brush yourself down and put your best foot forward…… good luck 💗
Great point
They broke the unions & siphoned all the money and assets from the working class. Now people can only rent everything. From films to a place to live. Communities are broken.
Born in 1998. Feel more disconnected from my generation every day. No options, no future and the feeling that our freedoms are being taken away without discussion, accountability or democracy.
We are not a democracy,we are a Republic.
This form of government is only possible with highly religious Christian moral people who love GOD and their neighbors as themselves.
It's not going to work with any others.
Not atheist,not Muslims,not Hindu,not any others.
as you learn history you can see that many great achievments in our culture revolution are being made trough some form of sacrifice. Usually by young men unhappy with status quo. As you got older you become more complacent and accept the things as they are.
I think we have the same now. young ppl are sacrfacied in order humanity to learn the next lesson if it is to survive.
The check against corporate greed is supposed to be the government, the check against government greed is supposed to be the people. When people act selfishly and don't hold government accountable, the government stops working for the people. We have all the tools we need to fix the problem, we are just too lazy and selfish to use them.
Same. Born in '97 and have been feeling generationally homeless for years now. Millennials are a bunch of whiny doormats and zoomers are a bunch of gender-confused commie fanboys. The people born between both generations (around our age) seem to be the only relatively sane ones left.
Yes and if you bring up those concerns with people our age (I'm 23) you'll get a label thrown on you and be unwelcome anywhere
My son's year at school was pulled into a boys assembly and told they were behaving as toxic males and that their violence would cause them to end up in jail. I called the principal to complain about it and was told that it was because of a play fighting incident where one boy had hurt another boy. I was furious. I told my non toxic son that he hadn't done anything wrong. The school banned play fighting and asked the girls to dob on the boys if they saw them playfighting. Unbelievable. I ended up removing my son from that school.
The attack on masculinity is absolutely toxic, masculinity itself is healthy. I started boxing as a toddler and picked up wrestling, kickboxing, bjj and the rest between then and graduating high school. I started coaching youth programs the summer after I graduated (2008) and all of my kids keep their grades high, graduate high school and do community service as well as help their families at home. That’s masculinity.
It's also important to learn 'if the glove doesn't fit you must acquit' so as to not be triggered or offended by statements that don't describe you
Sure 'play fighting', where a boy got hurt. Boys dont' get hurt 'play fighting', so what they were doing is 'fighting'. Of course anybody not fighting is hardly the problem, but fighting should not be tolerated, we live in a world where a fight one day means a kid comes in next day with an AR weapon.
Boxing and wrestling and things like that are SPORTS. They are not 'fighting' in any sense.
But dads preaching that fighting is 'boys being boys' are definitely part of hte problem. Girls do martial arts, girls do wrestling as well as boxing. That got zero to do with 'masculinity', in fact just having a conversation about 'masculinity' is a real problem.
God that's aggravating. Growing up (I'm nearly 25 now) I'm glad I realized the bullshit in the school system myself. When I was growing up was around the time they were trying to teach us that fighting back/self defence was bad.
@@mikearchibald744 As a girl who does martial arts, I think you have it all wrong. And you can too get hurt playfighting, I've taken plenty of bloody noses. Slips happen, head hits floor, you thought the other person farther away than they were and wallop them in the face. Not everyone who has an assertive personality or likes to playfight turns into mass murderers. Calm down!
Young men feel lost? Hell, im 59 years old, and i have no fucking idea what the world outsde my window is all about and not sure i really want any part of it anymore.
Same here. It is not a generational thing. It is a transformation that happened / in happening to our societies against our will.
I'm 73 and don't give a damn what's going on outside my window. I avoid people outside my family and long time friends and spend most of my free time training my new puppy. Sure beats dealing with humans.
You really don't want any part of it
The difference is that you remember the before times. They know nothing else.
@@Capt.Thunder True. And if us oldsters don’t document and share our personal memories, the fact of better times - at least DIFFERENT times - will be forgotten. And if the young never know what COULD be achieved, they will be satisfied with whatever scraps the ruling elite dish out.
Every time trump supports the vaccine, his fan base criticise him heavily, so I do not agree that most trump supporters just blindly support anything he says...
Who said he supports the vaccine? I don’t think that’s correct..
And yet here we are, still in a choice between an old man who supports lockdowns and vaccines and another old man who supports lockdowns and vaccines.
All the inflation happening is delayed-effect inflation based on the 7 trillion new dollars created by Trump, and we're just going to do it all over again.
I'm a Trump supporter, but I don't agree with every single thing he says or does. It's definitely more than possible to like someone and support them, and not agree with them 100% of the time. I have several close friends who are like family me, who I've maintained close friendships with for 20+, even 30+ years. That doesn't mean I agree with everything that they say or do. People nowadays have this "all or nothing" mentality. It's like if you don't agree with them 100% of the time, then you are the enemy. And if you support someone politically, that's mean you blindly agree with and support everything they say and do. It's incredibly absurd, and I'm not sure where this comes from.
I'm not a Trump supporter, I will probably be a Trump voter. I am completely against Trump's blind support for the Genocidal regime in Israel. Against the hawkish war with China pushers. Against his blind support of law enforcement, who are more than happy to chip away at our Civil Liberties. But most of his policies I agree with.
@@mattjack3983Its mental
Boils down to it right in the beginning:
"Why have a go at it if you can't even afford a place to live and a family"
Revolution is guaranteed in that situation.
Now, we wait for a militant ideology that will take hold of them.
Revolution requires organization, coordination, sacrifice, effort. It’s a lot easier to stay home and distract yourself with mindless entertainment.
@@bizambo100 Not to mention that if there is a lack of justification for revolution against the powers that be, it'll be crushed by the Army. The bourgeoisie has to do something that plainly illegal enough that it alienates the Governments greatest source of hard power. However, here in America we have all of the things you listed along with an armed population. The scattered groups may lack leadership but in times of war leaders can come from the most unlikely of places. Many Roman Emperors were born middle class normies who joined the Army and rose through the ranks in times of crisis.
until it's not easier@@bizambo100
Collapse is inevitable
As a young person here’s what I see, my money means nothing, my government claims I’m the problem, women terrify me because they can make a claim and ruin my life and I’ve seen it happen, I just try to keep my head down and go below the radar. But shit, even I feel the anger and frustration at this sheer insanity bubbling now. I don’t even know how I’m supporting myself on my own now, it’s by the skin of my teeth, I can barely afford to exist and I’m made to feel bad for it half the time. It’s a terrifying world for a man.
I feel you.
But it's not anger and frustration. It's rage. A white, hot rage.
Organize, mobilize
@@JeffCaplan313 Yes, and it's a beautiful thing. Righteous anger is the divine fire that brings cleansing to the injustice of the world.
You really think women go round making bs claims about r*pe? Come on, what about all the women who have been used & hurt by men? You are not the victim here
ln order to embrace delayed gratification, there has to be a “light at the end of the tunnel.” In the past, that was a house, family, and career. A distinct reward for your sacrifice. For many young men, one or more of these things are either not available or have an immense barrier to entry on a level that prior generations didn’t have.
It is no more complicated than what you stated, I'm one minute in the video, and I'm done.
The reality is that men are primarily motivated by sex and when the possibility is removed, there isn't much to work for.
What do you think about this interview?
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Omg. That's so true.
We're hard ass parents, we ride our kids, we're involved in their lives and we expect them to take responsibility for their future, but we recognize that they have a much harder road than we had. We had it hard, don't get me wrong, but we had jobs in middle school, they're literally barred by law from it. Wanna have a little lemonade stand? Nope, some woman is going to call the cops and have your 8 year old cited and fined for operating an unlicensed business in a residential zone. The whole thing is to screw people so hard that they just give up on trying.
The giving up part is exactly what the governments of the world want. Giving up means that you're a malleable slave. Trying means you still think you're the one who's in control of your future, and that's the last thing these power mad douchebags want
That's why they don't want people having kids. They don't want them having jobs. They don't want them having dreams. And especially, they don't want them having strong families.
I imagine many young men feel lost because they havent got the basic set of things required to feel content: a positive sense of community, a fair job that contributes to society, their own secure home or the realistic hope of having one, disposable income and something worthwhile to spend it on, some good friends, an active love and sex life, fair physical health, some hope for the future survival and progress of humanity and their tribe, regular peak experiences, and a sense of meaningfulness.
Just a few years ago all those things were taken for granted. We didn't feel 'lucky' to have them. Since Blair and his devotees in the Tory Party, all those things have been stripped away. I think young people should DEMAND the right to a decent future.
@mesolithicman164 I recall it going away long before Blair. It was already trash in the 70s and 80s. Hence punk etc
@@someonesomeone25
Well, this ages me but I was very involved in the club scene late 80s/ early 90s and young people were still hedonistic and hopeful for the future at that stage.
Punk came from boredom, that was one of the big words at the time. The Sex Pistols artwork, with 2 coaches, one destination labelled 'Boredom', the other, 'Nowhere'. In the post punk moment, the Left jumped in and tried to politicise Punk, making it about Leftist obsessions that were never part of the original punk 'manifesto'. And then of course it all segued into the 80s yuppiedom, New Romantics etc.
So, I think it _was_ Blair and his famous phrase about wanting to "rub the Right's noses in diversity" opening the door to European immigration, an active policy, partly to bring in skilled tradesmen from Poland but also a _lot_ of unskilled Eastern Europeans to work in hotels, factories, fruit picking etc, pushing down wages and putting more and more pressure on affordable accommodation and public services. All of which Bair's Tory acolytes have continued, to appease big business and the house building industry. In effect, young people are being edged out of a future they could once have expected by an army , almost literally, of fighting age men from the middle east. An example of the absurdity, we rightfully agreed to let in Afghan translators who feared reprisals from the Taliban. So far 'official figures' suggest about 25,000 have been resettled. Call me a cynic but I find that figure a. An undercounting and b. Vastly overcalculating the number of Afghans who were officially in post as translators.
It's difficult to find an actual number but I don't believe there was ever more than 25k British troops serving there at any one time. So more translators than British soldiers. And even if there had been 50k Brits out there, one translator for every two soldiers seems like an extraordinary figure. So, it's an uncontrolled, irrational influx that is costing the futures of our young people, many of whom are leaving the country in search of a more satisfying life. That is terrible news.
I keep getting told this about young men. But the ones I know seem ok. They work, they drive cars, they seem like young men always have done. As for needing a sex life, except for a blip in history, people didn't get this until marriage.
@@mesolithicman164I'm not British, but I agree with you, especially the effect it has on housing and wages.
Fascinating conversation. I am a single mum of a teenager. My son has an absence of male role models. CZcamsrs fill the gap for him, and he chooses the ones that speak to his character. I tell him family stories about capable, loving male behaviour... and recently, he has been enacting bloke behaviour to benefit our family. He has set up a home security camera, put a TV on the wall and has discovered a love of power drills and masonry bits. I have had to graduate my mindset from protective Mum to recipient Mum so he can practice what he needs to do for his future partner. It is humbling and awesome to be parenting him. I have told him the world is a mess and young men like him need to be the solution.
That really got me. Like right down deep in the gut. I have a young man too. Thank you.
You're very welcome. I say to him "You are bigger and stronger than me now, and I need your help. I can't do it without you." He does it for love, and sometimes just becasue it's fair @@stephaniefairey8633
Thank you for stepping aside for your son to grow. My mother didn’t do this for me and it created massive problems. Luckily, I had men around who noticed the gaps in growth because I was alone with her. They saved me in a lot of ways.
Awesome Anne. That's a great Mum right there!
Much respect!
When Young men feel like they have no future for whatever reason on mass. That is how revolutions begin.
It won’t happen sir
This is how collapse of civilisation begins.
that was back when there wasn't various forms of sedation. they're more likely to just drop off, literally or figuratively
That was more true in the past.
Nowadays.... the elites are more careful to avoid that kind of stuff.
Lies, drugs, sports on tv... works wonders.
It’s scary, and inevitable, that Connor is correct. Normally calm people I know are sick of the corruption and ready to act.
I am too. Even if I have to be independent. For example I’m ready to leave the boomer’s housing market, buy some land, and build my own off-grid place. Their vulnerability is cultural and financial strategies that forgo physical luxuries and toys in favor of other forms of wealth. If we all began to divest from their system like that they’d never see it coming
That doesnt work everywhere. In some countries, like Canada...
You cant buy a proper piece of land for a few hundreds. The cheapest lands in Canada, if you go far far away from cities, are at least 20 or 30 thousands. With a down payment of at least 50 percent.
And these are fairly rare.
If lots of people started buying remote pieces of land... they would all boost the prices up, and even those lands would become unaffordable real quick.
Especially that, in Canada, homes are not meant to help the poor. They are meant to be an investment for the rich.
It's not easy to buy even a bare piece of land in Canada, especially for those of us who have no support.
It doesn't scare me. I'm excited. The Commies won't win, if that's what you're worried about. They're all fat, genderqueer weaklings. The strong men will be on the side of whoever arises to be our Julius Caesar. We're on the cusp of a glorious new era.
I'm raising genZ. They are actually pretty cool. The ones I know and love really want zero to do with consumerism, they live minimalist lives, and have said piss off to college.
They also want families and love staying at home with their kids.
Bravo for bucking the system.
Per the meme gen z is split between the "conservative" men with a mix of gym culture self improvment ideology or coomer matrix style pod pepole with equality and "why not" ideology. I think the "conservative" side really wants to be in the white picket fence american dream whith out the flaws in the system by being a present part of the family and rebalanced financial system. Or im juat projecting i dont know
No you aren't, gen z is almost 30.
@@frankstallone3864yeah, one of my best friends is gen z, he’s 26.
@@kalev_knightno, you’re right, one of my best mates is 26 and conservative and basically exactly like you described. He’s wicked smart, too. A computer programmer.
@@kalev_knight Meanwhile the other side, the leftist GenZ, are so miserable and non-functional on a basic human society level even compared to millennials that they won't be able to achieve anything in their probably short lives.
In my child rearing years, I chose to homeschool my children and taught them the history of our nation and our culture. After homeschooling, I went back to school and became a teacher for children with special needs. What he is talking about with unattached children is spot on.
That's great, but it's dumb to tell other women they shouldn't have dreams or goals. Not saying you tell others to do this, but a lot of conservatives come from the opinion that a women should just stay in the kitchen unless it's time to make babies.
Oh yes need more of you.
Thank you. History is the most underrated subject of all. If people knew it whatsoever, all our conversations would be much better.
Men won't become violence in general. The problem is that we'll stop working and producing when there's no motivation or reason to do so. Men hold over 90% of jobs that makes society go around.
Boyo.
this
men not raised by men--I saw this problem first hand in the Army. What did I see? First, so many were completely indecisive in any situation. This, of course, is a fatal thing in the military. Second, their lives lacked goals. Now not having any life goals is not uncommon across all generations for young men, but to have no clue that goals can even exist is not. Through the last 4 or so years of my career, I found that these young men would latch onto any "real" man who provided any amount of care, coaching, and mentorship. Unlike Gen-X or early Millennials, they were seeking real male mentorship.
So, you older men out there--get involved--each one reach one and teach one. They know they have been left in the proverbial wilderness and often respond to any guidance.
I’ve already considered being a mentor to the next generations since I’m long past leaving a genetic legacy.
Unfortunately big brothers and sisters of America have extremely strict requirements that are hard to achieve.
And the problem with passing your wisdom onto the neighborhood kids is 2 fold. First there’s no longer any sense of community so people don’t even know what their neighbors look like half the time. Secondly any single man who shows ANY interest in kids is automatically assumed to be a degenerate.
Connor's star is rising, so I fully expect a full-on cancellation campaign from the communists at Hate, not Hope, any day now.
He won't rise though unless he gets Andrew Tate out of his head because he's wrong about the entire thing. Connor thinks his own brand of thought is the better one, despite it not being as successful in many ways. And in fact not happier either. He doesn't have the presence of somebody like Tate and he can't stand it because he's been told for so long that he's smart. And while he may have a gift of a mind, to a degree, he's simply not as smart AND strong AND successful as Andrew Tate, and he cannot stand it. It eats away at him.
Is Andrew your boyf?
@@michaelbuddy Tate is stupid in a way that most people need a traumatic brain injury to approximate. I’m no fan of this priggish reactionary, but he’s at least read a book or two
@@michaelbuddyWhy do you ride Tates D so hard? As long as Sean Strickland is around and living in his head rent free, Tate isn't moving forward anywhere.
@@michaelbuddythis is an absolutely ridiculous statement to make. Connor cannot be more successful than Tate YET, because he just hasn’t had enough time to demonstrate his competence. This is a pathetic attempt to sideline a philosopher, because he is young.
Tate has managed to attract a large number of rejectors, far more than Connor. Do you credit Connor for that? I don’t think you have worked out how to establish the hierarchy in this space.
Social media is a curse to young people easily influenced. Unplug is my recommendation.
Best mental health thing you can do: delete apps. put your phone down. do something analog. talk to people face to face.
@bwnaylor yup, go make real friends, take a walk, and enjoy real relationships. I'm just an old boomer talking, I suppose.
He writes on social media
Might as well tell a crack head “my advice is not to smoke crack”. Their brain chemistry and their need for social interaction will not allow them to just unplug. Its impossible for literally 90% of them if not more.
@@garythecyclingnerd6219YT ain’t social media goof. It’s media w social components but that’s not its purpose
For a young man, Connor is very well read. Fair play to him.
Very well spoken too.
This guy is 25 and understands things more than many folks my age (44).
Love it!!
You saying he’s smarter than you. 😂😂😂. Oh dear. What a wasted life you’ve lived. Thankfully at 22 I can smell right and left wing grifters a mile away. Connor is one of those!
shame on you
How are people of your age so stupid?
im 44 too.
he is VERY skilled orator but that does not mean he understands.
For a long time, I've been saying (as a Gen X'er) we need to stop treating the young as if they were spoiled and entitled. 1) If they are, then who allowed them to get that way. 2) If they are, then examine what it is they are reacting against. Millennials were trained to be nothing but Marvel-trinket consumer machines, and Gen Z's were expected to grow and flourish in a wasteland.
Although I don't disagree with anything you said, I'm a GenX'er too and I certainly didn't grow up spoiled or entitled. My working class upbringing keeps me humble still to this day, even though I have access to way more than my parents ever did. There seems to be an sense of 'unfairness' these days, as in a lack of personal responsibility. Every generation is in a better position than the one before, but the vast majority of people don't have it easy either. I'm not sure what Zoomers feel entitled to, but in my experience I didn't grow up feeling entitled to have anything. I've worked hard to achieved everything I now own. If I grew up expecting my parents to give me stuff because it's not fair that I don't have it, I'd still be waiting. Maybe it's a class thing?
@@martindenham2207I think you’re wrong that every generation is in a better position than the last. Technology-wise, yes. But on a cultural and financial standpoint…no. Gen Z (and younger millennials) are going to be far worse off than Boomers on every measurement.
@@martindenham2207 no every generation is not better off. Zoomers and millennials are far worse off than your generation. The silent generation handed you a booming economy on a silver platter with little to no migrants to compete against. It COULD have been better, but your generation fucked it up for the children you were responsible for. Sincerely go fuck yourself.
My husband and I are Gen X. Wasteland? Lol we grew up in a time when parents sent us out to play and we had to be home at sundown. No participation trophies. I started off in a trailer park in Oklahoma, my husband grew up in a gang infested Los Angeles neighborhood.
We lived in a studio apartment for 5 years and then lived with 3 roommates in a house for another 5 years. We SAVED. I cooked every meal and didn't splurge on manicures and handbags. We didn't live anywhere near our income.
We now have 2 homes and investment properties.
I see my gen z and millennial friends buy luxury, eat out, get cars they can't afford, rent apartments with no roommates, and then they complain.
It didn't work out for Marvel very well 😂
Another awesome interview!
"When the youth cannot get married or owned property; how can you not expect a revolution?"
A perfect situation for a conquer to recruit soldiers. I even suspect that polygamy exist explicitly to create this situation.
What are you talking about? Loads of young couples are still getting married. What do you think is stopping them? Loads of young people are still buying homes. Get out of the rabbit hole of CZcams. Live with your parent/ parents for a few years (if they want to help you that is) and save money for a deposit on a home.
Ditch the overly expensive wedding receptions and actually working to save up for property (rather than spend a fortune on video games that are just gonna get sold at a loss to someone else). That would be a good start.
@@22448824Loads of marriages might still be happening, but they are severely lower than they were 20 or 30 years ago. A lot of that comes down to both how devastating and common divorce is. Western populations are not having kids due to the cost of living and also the insecurity of marriage/home life. The people having kids are all imported where divorce largely isn't allowed through communal shaming.
So yes, there's still tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands of marriages every year among the younger demographic, but that might only be 10% of what it once was (well, for first marriages. More divorces mean more possible future marriages, after all).
@@sigmacademyit’s to hard 😢😢😢
Well said Connor. This from a 67 year old present father of a 36 year daughter and 34 year old son. Good advice.
Got right to it at the beginning when he said that if the next generation can’t afford housing and can’t start families then you’ve got a generation of revolutionaries on your hands…true and chilling.
As an older man I would support any revolutionary Gen Z Men that are going conservative. Men are being lied to and its time they stood up for themselves.
Revolutionary conservatism. You mean fascism. That is literally what fascism is.
@matthewcaldwell8100 Tell me your a communist without telling me your a communist.
@@michaelchiasson2927 I’m not a communist, actually. See, I can criticize things I disagree with without backing into extremism out of a sense of high dudgeon. Try it.
@@matthewcaldwell8100 Uhhh, NO. You don't even know the definition of fascism. Try again. You can't have fascism without corporatism. Men standing up for themselves is NOT fascism, dummy. I'd say 'play again' but I know you're out of tokens.
No my definition of incel is the most accurate and backed by data. First, let's look at my definition of incel.
Incel: A single male that is not in a long-term loving relationship with a partner that THEY find attractive. They may or may not have kids.
These men are likely to be excess men of low social and financial standing.
But due to our Darwinian high pressure, society...."more above average men" are finding themselves locked out of having a long-term loving relationship.
This is what will cause society to destabilise and fall in quality and safety. Indeed, we are seeing it NOW already.
And these men will either check out or become destructive. Both are not good news for society in terms of economic, social, and security reasons.
Remember, the media and even others are not correct about what an incel is. It's not about just getting "3ex"......its realising that you have been unable to find a long-term loving, mutually validating relationship with a partner that YOU find attractive.
My question to the world is this.....
If a man IS IN a long-term loving relationship with a partner that THEY find attractive and they have kids. And that man is close to his parents and relatives and family, kids and friends.
If he does a job that may not earn him all the money in the world. But it's enough to get his family by in dignity, and he finds purpose in that line of work.
And that man is respected in HIS family, community........
TELL ME HOW MANY MEN LIKE THIS DO YOU FIND COMMITTING CRIMES, RIOTING, LOOTING????
THEY ARE THE PILLERS OF A STABLE SOCIETY.
Now, "chads" that trun a lot of plates and have a lot of options are not strictly speaking incels, providing they don't have prolonged dry spells between "relationships".....but make no mistake these men are not necessarily destructive like incels, but are ultimately unfulfilled.....they are not as happy/stable as the man I described above.
And that's all these is to know on the matter.....
Peace
My oldest son is super privileged, he'll have a home, no student loan, back up employment etc. etc. but he's still gone through the woke gender identity looking glass. It's more complicated than this. It's ideological possession after years of school and internet capture. The number of times I heard "toxic masculinity" mentioned, from someone who'd only ever known the most benevolent of masculinity from his Dad....I'm taking the schools to task...now that we now what they are doing to kids, get active, get involved. And find a way to control the damned internet, pornography especially. Boys are growing up to be terrified of being seen as predators. Girls are growing up terrified of what they have been lead to believe is sex, and hence their own bodies.
@dominionphilosophy3698think she's saying "sex" as in biological reality that some young women seem to be running from. Not sex as a verb.
When you say he's gone through the "woke gender identity looking glass" what do you mean? Pretty much every degree these days requires woke classes. I'm in engineering and yet had to take fem studies and other ridiculous shit as a requirement. Ironically seeing how insane it was pushed me more right wing if anything. I had two of my roommates in the fem studies class and one of them would argue constantly with the teacher because it was so dumb. Seems people really go one way or the other when you introduce this stuff to students.
Hey look another delusional old person who thinks this is going to get corrected through weak conversations on the internet
Mate, it's parents like you who are at fault, including yours cause of the way you talk. I can tell you know nothing about real life.... everything you've talked about sounds like something out of a Barbie movie.
Do you not understand the existence of a positive male role model doesn’t mean that there aren’t toxic men out there? Or do you think someone has to be abused to have empathy?
“Things that they feel nostalgia for but never experienced themselves.” That is really unfortunat, wow…
Like a rock.
Men/women competing for same resources and women becoming less attractive to men rings true. My female boss was like a Medusa who wrecked my love for women. I was impotent for months after I quit.
I feel this in my bones.
I'm turning 50 this year. When I was in my teens, we had screens competing for our attention. We had porn. We had drugs. We had a steady diet of grievance claims. We had parents who were completely checked out and uninvolved in our upbringing. We had schools that were preventing us from learning critical thinking skills. We had all of these negative influences.
But we also had the ability to go get a college degree without getting hundreds of thousands of dollars into debt. We had the ability to buy a house. We had the ability to buy new cars that we were able to work on ourselves. And the possibility of building an actual life after school is what made all those childhood traumas bearable.
There are a lot of reasons we had those things but the main reason is our money was not in later stage collapse like it is now.
As someone a bit older than you I agree. We may not have had or the technology that exists today but what we had would have a similar effect. That's why I disagree that e.g. pornography has the detrimental role that most pretend that it has. You identified one of the causes - no hope for the future. Allow me to add another: the constant "woke" propaganda that these kids need to endure that we did not have to.
You cannot possibly be comparing how porn was in the 80s compared to the internet now?
“New cars that we could work on ourselves.” Please let’s bring this back!!
Television, while expanding, also provided you with a national culture that you grew up a part of. At least with US/Canada there was the mTV Generation which offered a cultural touchstone through music. Millennial here and we still had some unified culture when I was a kid which started to disintegrate around mid 2000s heading into the 2010s.
I agree things have not really changed but we had art. We had music, we had each other. Real life was fun. There is no hope for kids now and life is too scary. Even people with good jobs are struggling.
I'm from Canada, and the company I work for used to pay reasonably well 10-15 years ago. Good benefits, good pay rise accessibility. Now, it caps out more than $5/hr less than what it was 15 years ago. They don't give out full time to people nearly as much anymore and they're recording record profits in the past 2-3 years. It's not at all that young people don't want to work, it's the simple fact that we are expected to give the same effort that was there decades ago, while giving us no chance to own a home or save money for the future
So perfectly said.
This. Companies expect you to work absurd hours while they pay you poverty-level wages
I met someone from a conference of the top 80 businesses in Canada back in 2016 and the meeting was focused on how Canada as a place to do business was done due to the cancer known as Justin Turdeau's liberals (the previous government was tired and probably had to be changed but there were no options). The business environment created by this current government ended any chance of genuine free market success. Now, Canada is dependent on the communist and fascist idealism of everyone in Canada's Parliament. The entire country is now reliant on governemnt spending to stay afloat with no alternative. Therefore, inflation will continue to skyrocket, and many of us will never have the opportunity to buy a home. That was by design as that is the raison d'etre of all of Canada's government policy at the moment. They sold us out, they knew they were doing it, they are just trying to keep Canadians from seeing the decline. They are trying to destroy Canada's economy on a specific schedule which is hard to do. BTW the economic opportunities for a lot of Gen x'ers in the early nineties were not much better than now but those who did the right thing are laughing in luxury now ( and living off your tax dollars in many instances).
The current state of the young not wanting to work has replicated itself once every 1-2 decades since the 40s. You can find headlines about it dating all the way back then. It always happens during periods where wages stagnate while inflation continues to rise.
In 1950, it took the average middle class income 2 years to be able to purchase a home and car outright without loans. Nowadays, it takes 6-8 years without loans, not counting any other expenses you may have in the meantime. This will never solve itself until laws are passed to curb foreign investment, the judgement that publicly traded companies *must* act in the best interest of their stockholders to be overturned (this was a decision made in a case that was Dodge v Ford, where Ford wanted to raise the wages of their workers and Dodge sued them to stop it from happening, please look it up for yourself and read about it), illegal immigration is completely stopped & legal immigration is slowed (this stops giving companies easy access to cheap labor & lowers demand for housing simultaneously), and lastly, the people actually revolt and demand these changes in companies & the government. Large scale strikes, revolt, and action to demand change. Until all of these things are addressed simultaneously, absolutely nothing will change.
Mass immigration is pushing down wages, and killed the housing availability along with all the rest of our services. Gov way over spending and waste, and way over taxing is pushing down the value of our dollar and pushing up the cost of goods and services. Hopefully once we get cons in they will reverse most of that. Theres hope if we can get Pierre in.
“Lonely people who are confused about their place in the world as a man, as a woman, dislocated from family, endlessly consuming things, and finding their identity in stuff. And we wonder why we have a mental health crisis.”
Wow.
Connor, you're a dude's dude. Much respect, been watching your climb and you're making good moves. Keep going, humbly so. Your humble nature is your strength. Rooting for your success from the cheap seats.
His final words are on the money, both figuratively and literally. An intergenerational social contract has been broken and the ladder has been pulled up behind them.
Imagine telling your children to follow the path you walked, and when they reach the destination they realise they weren't your children at all, but in fact cattle to be slaughtered for your benefit. It wouldn't be so strange that they began to see all your values as the vehicle that delivered them to this point. And in a very human way they search for answers and faith through new visions, creating their own monetary system from the one thing that youth can control, social currency.
Yeah. Things have gotten so bad that a Christian zealot is claiming as his own the left wing critique of the last 60 years of economic policy.
Great prose. For the record, I'm not a boomer, but your first paragraph has been said for three generations now. You have not factored in the bank of mum and dad, which is how the millenials got established. But first the millenials had to show mum and dad they could reliably hold down a job. And most millenials I know are already thinking about how they can give their kids a financial start. So I don't think the generational contract is broken, at least in my country.
And it is not just Gen z who questions democracy. I'm Gen X and I nolonger believe democracy produces governments that represent the people.
@@grannyannie2948I appreciate that; I am also gen X (Au). Your point on the Bank of Mum and Dad is very characteristic of the present situation. This funding source is now in our top 10 lenders for new home buyers here, and that brings me back to my initial point. I would simply like to emphasise the intergenerational contract in the context of the current social climate, that it existed previously is fair and true. Every subsequent generation changes despite the humans themselves being constructed from the same base materials, and most critically, changes are informed by one's circumstances.
The magnitude of the change is the question. That feeling of being gutted of all your financial independence is quite perversely a product of the seemingly unending promise of wealth and prosperity. The defining factor of its distribution is evidently whether your parents had wealth to begin with, and whether or not they choose to share it with you.
The generational social contract is not just about parents raising their children. It is about the world that that generation creates while in power to leave to the next. And on that score, boomers and Xers have been world-historical failures. They are bequeathing to the rest of us a world that is poorer, more volatile, and less able to deal with any of the legions of crises they created than ever. They may very well make the planet uninhabitable before they pass on.
And beneath all the moral panic and smug indifference, beneath all the recrimination and wounded righteousness, you know it.
@@simonc6328 I am also Australian, I'm not wealthy, but we did do things to assist our kids to buy a house, as did their partners parents. Your point that much depends on the wealth of your parents and whether they are prepared to share, applies for hundreds, actually thousands of years, it's nothing new.
The difference is that we nolonger have equal opportunity, in fact I would argue there was more equal opportunity 4-500 hundred years ago than today. And the more they try to line their gender and racial ducks in a row, the less equality of opportunity there is.
And for housing, mass immigration has caused the inequality. In the 1960s and 70s, our nation was famous for its affordable housing. The modern three bed house on the quarter acre block, was achievable on a man's income alone, that man could also afford to support a wife and children. Our birthrate has not gone up since then. In theory we should have enough housing without building any more houses, and any increase in price would be driven by inflation of wages, not artificially increased demand like today.
Unfortunately young people have been educated to believe in enforced equality of outcome, instead of immigration as a factor. In the meantime, we, hubby and I, the adult kids and grandkids, have moved quite rurally. The opportunities are fewer, but the actual equality of opportunity. And young people and children are cherished by the community. The boys and girls, and young men and women, like each other, and respect each other. I live across the road from a highschool. The kids who wait for the bus are never looking at phones. They are talking to each other, and the boys are messing around, trying to impress the girls, just like it's always been.
I think in this country we are becoming increasingly Balkanised, between the rural people who produce the food and raw materials, and the cities that produce nonsense and inequality, and frankly no hope.
Connor took a while to grow on me. I was wrong. He’s solid.
he did grow on me too
like a malignant tumour
One way to look at it:
My parents generations printed a bunch of money and own all these houses and the inflation from printing that money has made it to where I can't buy one house. Previous generations stole from us.
Learn from them.
Steal from the cradles of others.
Thank you, Connor, for making me remember the precious moment I looked at my son for the very first time.
I'm twenties between Gen z and millennial. There's 100% a revolutionary feeling among young people. We live in a gerontocracy, paying money into social security while being told we'll never benefit from it. And the more you see how useless our politicians are, both Republicans and democrats, the more I understand the feeling. Hopefully what comes next isn't worse..
Well one of them is trying to actively privatize it and the other is trying to tax billionaires so that the trust fund doesn’t go insolvent by 2033. That’s a pretty fucking big difference.
Maybe pay closer attention
You need some parenting, but that's too late for you...
You do realize that each Generation pays for the retirement of the former generation under SSI ? We as Gen X helped pay for the retirement of baby boomers, and assisted a small amount to the retirement of the greatest generation! Happy to do so for both! Now it is your turn to pay for me! The next Gen will pay for you
I'm Gen X. In my generation retirement has gone from sixty to sixty seven and rising. I share the frustration that democracy nolonger produces governments that represent the people or the nation. And mass immigration is a joke. I'm not American though.
@@lawrencee1113 Will they though?
As a 66 yr old straight white English man, i'm watching this because i can't believe how this country has declined and have concerns for my daughters and grandchildren.
As a grandad i don't worry about my future, but i do about theirs. Your conversation is a fascinating insight... Thanks.
What does your sexual orientation have to do with anything?
Sacrifice your limited remaining future for theirs. The fight is coming and you have the opportunity to ensure it is successful for the prosperity of your people. Please do not abdicate this responsibility.
It’s not just this country. It’s worldwide thanks to globalisation
Thanks for being one of the few that care. It's amazing how many Boomers are just "me me me hurr it's fine and I'm mad that nobody listens to everything I say." At least in the U.S., the most disappointing generation ever.
@@j2174 it’s part of his identity, jack hass
i was listening to this while driving home.
when he said he is 25 years old. i went like WHAT?
the elegance of expression, class in presentation, mastery of language and clarity of rational logic
i would have guessed he is in his 40s. maybe there is still some hope for the future.
“If you exclude young men from village square they will burn it down to feel it’s warmth.”
.75x speed : Connor sounds normal and everyone else sounds hammered.
😂
Same here! When I listen to him on Lotus Eaters I legit have to check sometimes whether I've got my play speed turned up!
My default speed is 1.3x, I almost considered reducing it this time. I find for Americans I tend to need to go up to sometimes 2x for it to be even bearable, whereas Brits don't suffer as much from speech retardation.
Just went and checked this. Totally true!😂😂
lol
Some who watch your content are in their 70's and really want to understand what has happened to our culture and how to make things better.
If you’re in your 70s, most of what our culture suffers from is your goddamned fault. Your further involvement is not required
Many here are boomers and we understand very well what is frustrating to gen z , we have children and grandchildren. I might add that is why we are here . We are as frustrated and anxious about the future as younger people are. And those of us who vote, did not vote for this society the way it is - the mass immigration nor the social issues.
It’s pretty simple. People are living too long so younger people are being priced out of property and society. There are too few young people to pay for and care for the older generation. Immigration is needed to fill the jobs and pay the tax to care for this older generation. It has created a negative feed back loop where you have created an environment where you have disincentivised procreation, work and home ownership, creating more of the same problem until the culture starts to eat itself as we’re seeing now.
@@curiositysparksinspiredlea2085 statistically, you absolutely did vote for this
@matthewcaldwell8100 Many of us voted against this over and over. We just were in the minority. I don't think living too long is the problem. In large part abortion caused the squaring of the pyramid. One in 3 children were killed since 1973. Also, there were many lies told about how we needed to decrease the population. So, people had fewer children. In addition, we began to value things over people. That is why there are so few people in the following generations. Does this fall on our shoulders. Yes. However, the idea that there were not tough times before now is foolishness. My parents lived through the Great Depression. Their parents worked incredibly dangerous jobs for unbelievably long hours. One of my ancestors helped dig the Eirie Canal by hand. We are in a hard time right now, but becoming bitter and giving up won't fix it. We need to work together to make America a place where everyone has a functional life.
He hit the nail on the head with younger generations inheriting a mess not of their making.
Man, I'm 36 and was raised by a toxic single mother. I feel the same struggle these kids are feeling. The destruction of "male spaces" has taken spaces away for "iron to sharpen iron"...
Absolutely, even going into a card shop, the girls cards are all about "beauty" and "gin" for some reason, the men's cards?, apparently we are all stupid and worthless. So, on frequent occasions when "hearing" suchlike I say, "Hey madam, if we are that useless, then go to the top of the tallest building in any village, town or city, look around you 360 degrees, and tell us men, what WE DIDN'T build, considering 92% of women work indoors, out of the bad weather, access to talk, tea, coffee, and help if necessary. I served in the British Army for 6 years, (no women), and drove HGV's for 42 years, the last 16 were for up to 14 hours a day, alone. You want Equality ladies ???, then get outside and get your damn hands dirty.
What do you define as a toxic single mother? What she could have done better?
@@SMam81 Many things. One of which being parentification of her son. Another was thinking her, a woman, can teach a boy how to be a man. Women cannot teach a boy how to be a man, only a man can teach a boy how to be a man. Women don't understand this in any capacity.
@@SMam81 Seek help, there are institutions and charities that are there for mothers, sadly, men (fathers) are overlooked, that's why most men die between 5 and 8 years before their wives, because they are treated as useless, even though they worked longer hours, doing more dangerous, thankless jobs, in all weathers, but on retirement, that's it.
@@SMam81not be a single mother, not make moronic decisions like have a child by yourself that you can't support both financially and emotionally. Not have male role models around growing up. Being so toxic you drove good healthy men who could have helped raise her son away
I’m Connor’s age and I watch your content also, thanks for having him on. He’s incredibly intelligent and well read for a man his age in the current cultural paradigm 🙏🏼
I'm 27. One of the aforementioned cohort born on the cusp of the 2000's. There's a nail shortage. I've never seen so many nails hit in a single video. And so coherently and succinctly. I've had very similar thoughts with respect to Bukele. It's disturbing but increasingly feeling like the inevitable logical outcome. Fantastic interview, even if somber despite your collective best efforts.
It’s not disturbing. Human civilization has gone through this cycle for thousands and thousands of years. Its only in the last few decades that western men have gotten so fat, weak, soft, submissive, and docile that now we think any ounce of anger or uprising is wrong. We’ve collectively cut our nuts off. Hopefully there’s still time to glue them back on.
Contrast Bukele's more autocratic (though not necessarily authoritatian) governorship to the Western democracies as of late. In half a decade, Bukele was able to turn his country from one of the most dangerous to safest countries in the Americas. Western democracies, but comparison, have had little to no successes, with many problems only compounding.
If there are more Bukele like successes, it's probable Western style democracy will decline in favour of following enlightened autocratic rule. It's too early to tell, however. El Salvador still faces many problems. Time will tell.
There is no such thing as "enlightened authoritian rule." That is a dram Europeans have chased for roughly 2,500 years and was first (to my knowledge) articulated as the "Philosopher King."
Authoritian rulers have succeeded many times in getting crime under control. That is true. But long term, Authoritarian government stifles human progress and flourishing. So does high levels of crime and corruption.
When both Government and Crime are constrained by The Law, you see human flourishing and progress.
@@Pan_ZThe problem is can you keep getting enlightened autocrats. Look at Rome it was a Republic and when they had a common culture and purpose all classes worked together for the betterment of society. During the first Punic War wealthy Romans donated money to build Rome a new naval fleet. As the Roman Republic grew into a multi ethnic empire. The elites used crisis like the Punic Wars to obtain temporary powers that became permanent and started looking out for their own interest than the interest of all Romans. The Roman Republic became corrupt, decadent and callous. Unable to address even simple problems. The elites violently resisted even modest reforms that would impact their wealth and status. Framing even modest reformers as dangerous radicals threatening the very fabric of the Roman Republic. Just look at the Gracchi brothers who were both assassinated for their troubles. If Trump is anyone in history it is those 2. The problem is Romans no longer saw themselves as part of the same civilizational project, but various interest groups that needed to be appeased. Then Rome descended into a series of Civil Wars that purged the corrupt Senatorial elite and culminated in Augustus becoming Emperor. The enlightened autocrat. He did improve the lives of the average Roman. The problem is not all the Roman Emperors were enlightened. Initially Rome was so powerful and massive that it could survive the occasional bad Emperor, and initially Rome had a mixed elite of Senators and military men who would select good Roman emperors to replace bad ones. The reign of the five good Emperos exemplifies this. Overtime this crop of elites became corrupt themselves. The military elite who kept the civilian elites accountable started to increasingly ignore the Senate and began demanding more and more concessions from the Emperor. If the Emperor didn't provide they would overthrow and replace him. Septimius Severus famously told his sons to ignore the Senate. Just keep the army happy and you'll stay in power. Roman politics basically turned into a game of who can offer the army a bigger bribe. Which became unaffordable. Which is why Rome debased it's currency to pay the troops, which wreaked havoc economically. Rome entered a century of political turmoil where Rome brought in and spat Emperors. At one point Rome had two splinter factions try and break away from the Empire and it was barely pulled back together by Emperor Aurelian Restorer of the World. Who was also assassinated by his soldiers just 5 years into his reign. The military anarchy continued till Diocletian and Constantine who finally restored political order to a significantly weakened Rome. The average Roman was poorer and less free than ever before. With a bloated, tyrannical and overbearing state demanding more and more wealth to support itself. Many Romans invited the barbarians in just to get rid of the rule of tje central Roman authority. That is how bad things got.
Our son is 19 and just got his first job. Not for lack of trying. Hes had applications in and doing follow-ups since his 16th birthday. I knkw how hard he was trying because ive been here with him the entire time. His female peers all have jobs, but very few of the boys do. Why? Businesses are incentivized to hire females and not hire males. We didn't fix anything, we just dumped the shit on the other side of the fence and called it good.
"Plato's goon cave" had me rolling😂😂
Incredibly sharp guy - hard to believe he is only 24/25 years old.
He has a very bright future ahead of him.
"He has a very bright future ahead of him."
jk - Did you watch the video?
@@furtim1 I’m not sure what your point is. Did you make one? Did you forget or did or get censored? Feel free to make an actual point, any time you’re able.
@@keithcommins I said "jk" because I was joking. The fellow is all doom and gloom, declaring that the future is dark and dystopian. So, I found it funny that you said he has a "very bright future", as he certainly wouldn't say so. I was only kidding about.
@@furtim1 sorry, Im an adult and don’t speak textspeak, so apologies for not understanding “jk”. Unless he has predicted the world is literally going to end (which he hasn’t) then it’s safe to say he will be alive for the foreseeable, and given he has the intellect, the ability to speak well and formulate his ideas better than most, and a still very young (24 or so) I think it’s fair to say I’m right, and he likely has a bright future ahead of him. So quite what you’re on about I have no idea.
@@keithcommins"So quite what you’re on about I have no idea."
All right.
I'm blaming their parents for being stupid....this is what happens when parents know nothing about parenting.... I've been watching parents failing since the 80s 44 years of decline... no discipline, no backbone, the strong ones work while the educated become politicians and destroy the country.
Nailed it.
@orthotuber
Thank you..... it's good to see there are others who can see clearly through this bullshit.... man, I can't stand listening to people when they start talking like that...
Good on you Connor! He is a young man with a great brain and a loud voice. A British national treasure in the making. The Lotus Eaters are lucky to have him.
Triggernometry: "So we had this guy Destiny on..." Connor: "I'm so sorry." 🤣🤣🤣
wowza, what an incredibly bright, insightful young man. i've never heard of him before this, but i look forward to hearing more of what he has to say.
he's a "podcast of the lotuseaters" host - look them up - i dare you to try and choose a favourite it's impossible - I'm in awe of the team Carl's built
@@stephaniefairey8633 ohhhhh damn! that's why he looks vaguely familiar! he works for Sargon! that's awesome. thanks for letting me know. :)
@@stephaniefairey8633 I'll always be on team Callum
@@stephaniefairey8633 Carl Benjamin is obviously the only one of them who's got any sense.
I'm 31 and this interview has addressed my biggest issues with today's British way of life. Bravo chaps 🎉🎉
Canada is worst.
A gen z who can form complete sentences, along with arguments that aren't intellectually dishonest. Promising...
Connor's point that the lives of younger Gen Z are algorithmically driven is fantastic. It finally put into words the alienation and despair I feel toward the younger members of my age cohort. I always chalked it up to the death of reading as a hobby and the rise of social media, but the concision of Connor's description is perfect.
I am a Gen x mother of a cusp Gen Z Alpha girl. I am CONSTANTLY having to reframe her understanding of boys/men. I hear the garbage her friends and her say (she is 13) and I am aghast. I started to see the emasculation of men in the late 90's but it was only the very beginning. Now it's to the point that I'm daily having to correct thinking errors in my daughter about the opposite sex. That indeed she can't do everything herself. That women need men because we are different and instilling respect back into the conversation. She is taking well to my advice but my goodness, the crap that is being said about men is just wrong on every level.
solely thanks to the sisterhood, which you are apart of by your given gender. There is no more weaponized virtue. The cat is out of the bag and men have picked up on 50 yeurs of destructive, female oppression.
Let's just hope that men are not as vindictive as you and your sisters have been...
Wow, you're certainly the first mother to think that her daughter is making mistakes about gender relations. How do you navigate this absolutely novel social labyrinth?
@matthewcaldwell8100 You think the situation as described by the person above is the same as throughout all of time? Explain your reasoning rather than sniping, please.
@@cindertoffy3013 Conservatives have been melting down over their own apocalyptic moral panics all my life. I absolutely reject the notion that men are being victimized or denigrated as part of some attempt to hollow out masculinity. The alienation between the genders is a subset of the general malaise in society, and the explanations for that are a lot more straightforwardly economic and political than cultural.
@@matthewcaldwell8100 No need for snark.
They are not lost, they are being discriminated against and are reacting appropriately
Excellent talk; never heard of Connor before today, but he's eloquent and pleasant to listen to.
I don't think it's just young men. Its also middle aged men as well.
I'm 45 and I'm freaking tired of the stupidity, hypocrisy, double standard... And many of my fellow friends feel the same.
As a loose definition of a “tribe”, we (men of Western culture, primarily in developed countries) have not (nor do) a mission - a struggle/fight - that we mostly agree upon as justifiable. Give a man a mountain and he might shovel a pile of dirt. Give men a _purpose_ , a meaning, and we will move a mountain.
The internet has made various viewpoints and truth available at a click. We can no longer be tricked by media/government/corporate propaganda. This is a first in history. We may be “lost”, but at least we aren’t _blind_ . In the long term, this will be a good thing.
My advice: decouple your identity from your government. They are your oppressors, not the granter of your freedom. If you want something to fight for, fight for truth. It doesn’t lie.
The Uk is £2.5 Trillion in debt. It has increased the population by allowing 15 Million in due to mass immigration. The government is not serious about illegally immigration or cutting the numbers of mass immigration.
Something will have to give!
f the debt, i mean we all owe each other, kinda cancels it all out, China can do 1 for anything we owe, deport the millions, the West is saved, everyone happy
Runaway money printing and debt became inevitable once the fiat monetary system was implemented in full via fractional reserve banking and the abolition of the gold standard. The siren's call of unlimited debt is too tempting for any government to resist. It is sheer luck that we got to have a few prosperous decades of secure jobs + affordable homes from 1960-2000. Everything that has happened since then is as predictable as gravity.
Plus...zero available entrylevel jobs nor cheap housing available due to those rush of foreign invaders.
The US is way worse. We increase the debt by 1 trillion dollars every 100 days, something not expected to happens until 2029. I don't think this is by accident. I think this is designed to collapse the west by destroying the nations and their money.
Not to mention, as automation increases due, at first to COVID, and then to AI, there won't be any entry level jobs for migrants either in a few years. Then you have millions of people trying to enter the workforce with nowhere to go, and over half of them will be from other countries. Imagine tripling the population of disgruntled homeless people in a few short years. That's how violent revolutions happen
This man is a truth-spitting machine gun
I thought the vid was at high speed until Francis started speaking 😅
@@bigp3t3_cpt Yes! I'm oldish and perhaps a bit slow but these fellows, especially Connor, simply talk too fast (gabble), for me to take it in.
You could turn the speed down. Not sure how it would sound, but speeding it up always sounds fine.
No, he is not.
He’s on the lotus eaters
I'm of the 50-something audience you speak of and I have thoroughly enjoyed this conversation. This young man makes a lot of sense. We need to listen to younger generations a lot more than we do. My son is 28 and I have learned so much from him. I wish younger people could run this country, that way, it would be a much better one.
Generally what we need is not young people in charge (speaking as one) but for older people to be well-connected with the challenges of young people and, most importantly, for the people "running the country" to not even have the power to keep favoring their own (old, rich people) over the others.
From hoe_math:
"Better climb that ladder. And when you do climb that ladder, you're an evil bastard and need to be forced to share. And when you share you're an effing loser, so you better climb that ladder buddy."
Yup.
Amazingly well read and well spoken. Quite a bit pessimistic in his worldview but as a gen z female that rejects the woke bs of my generation, it gives me so much hope to see one of my peers do this. You’ve restored my slight hope in humanity. As a general advice to young men and any young person that would be reading this; throw your phone in a lake, cop out of social media and simply refuse the digital world, I think that’s the best way to cure this cancer that keeps festering in our society
No facebook, instagram or anything else apart from youtube for 4 years. It is better that way.
and the truth of it is this is all 'female'
The gynocracy will inevitably fail as it cannot build only tear down.
Collapse is the inevitability of a lack of heritage and bloodlines being continued due to shirking the responsibility as a parent.
*I resent every older generation for their absence from their duty of preservation and lack of foresight in favour of their personal comfort and convenience.*
Ultimately it's the fault of boomer gen men.
I'm sorry, but this is just not true.
We're yet again pivoting to "it's men's fault", just from the other direction.
The vast majority of my friends and colleagues who are young men, have their lives together. Except one thing. A romantic relationship. That doesn't mean they don't have one, many do. However, it is basically never a relationship that is actually good, and it's not because of these conservative talking points like: "women are too masculine, women work too much, etc." it's actually something way worse. Women do NOT understand that men have feelings. Period.
Connor speaks for us young men.
33 year old father of 2 watching, it’s not just the elderly!
Canadian Millennial white guy. Connor's lead in about being beaten over the head being told you're bad with no father in adolescence is basically how I was brought up except I didn't have anyone sticking up for men at that time. While I always knew people in power were lying (governments, media, religious), I didn't understand to what fundamental degrees of understanding until much later. Had to basically build my own concept of reality. I did have access to some of the original Internet subcultures so I had some kind of in group, but not really.
Millennials went crazy, especially our women who were pretty normal and decent (if a bit skanky, at least from my memory) but we had that moment of normalcy that Gen Z won't. Canada I think was ahead of most other Western nations when it came to the takeover of progressivism and socialist ideals.
Yep the woman of our generation are completely entitled then they turned 30-40 and wonder were are the men to take care of them. Not realizing that they make all those men leave.
It's about time we do something about it.
""Our women" were skanky". Real classy, dude.
@@ph318 about the woman that are 30- 40? leave them there unless to society. To think we can force people to take responsibility is stupid. All we can do is teach the next generation. Because those woman in there 30's and 40's can't really have children anymore or if they do its at higher risk. The real problem was feminist movement that took women out of the home for another force of labor and taxes.
A bit skanky?
A bit? 🤨
Connor is incorrect about red pill and MGTOW. It’s about not being a simp and financially abused by hypergamous women and not about hating women.
He borders on simp, pussified.
He hasn't really
red pill has been watered down in the "manoshpere" which MGTOW isn't really apart of but that is the lens he's using. The hating women stuff is an incel reference but that's the thing its all the same thing to most people
Oh heck yeah, Lotus Eaters crossover!
66 years old. The problem stems from one HUGE OMISSION in our education system. We simply do not teach the skill of CRITICAL THINKING. If you can learn this skill, and practice it, you will become confident in ANY world in which you live. Social media plays into the natural fears and anxieties of youth to create groups that think alike. If you can think for yourself, media becomes a tool FOR you, instead of the other way around.
It's the foundation stone of Western Civilisation.
Woke-M***ism is here to destroy Western Civilisation and build their Utopia from the ashes.
hard to put an old head on young shoulders - you have to pleat the neck skin to make it fit...
I agree. We moved from the city to rural Australia. The schools are still decent out here. One of the grandkids read The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe, at the same age as I did. They still learn reading, writing, maths, geography etc but nothing silly.
Spoken like a true boomer. You're acting as if you took a Critical Thinking 101 class. The reality is, most of us have worked with boomers who feel they have critical thinking skills, but what it really is, is an obsession with idiosyncratic thinking and an over-focus on edge cases. The reason you feel the way you do is because technology requires standardization, and that has had the side effect of creating homogenization both in mentality and in action amongst young people. What would've been helpful is if we had a media with more of a counterculture, anti-establishment bent to it, like it did in the '60s and '70s, that would've acted as a counterweight to the force of technology and the ubiquitous platforms that run our lives. The problem is not a lack of critical thinking; it's a need for a counterweight against homogenization.
No, they teach rote memorisation, and conformity.
Connor Tomlinson is half my age, yet he is far more informed and articulate than I will ever be. This discussion referred to the political classes in the third person. We need people of the calibre of Connor Tomlinson to be part of the political class. The question is, if he became enmeshed in the Westminster bubble, would he be able to withstand the lure of a very well paid job and an easy life (as long as he doesn't rock the boat) in favour of standing against the gravy train of the status quo by doing what's best for the UK?
If he maintains his tradcuck positions without addressing legal systems and laws in the country he would be nothing more than a talking head.
There is still time. We need you also in the fight.
I joined the Forces at 18, which at the time, was simply because my highschool grades just weren't good - learning via public schools just didn't work for me. Now I look back at realise that what I was looking for was 'purpose'. These days I run a support group for men via my employer that allows men to come and talk. The biggest issue I've found is that men simply don't have anyone to talk to. If they've got families, they can't open up to their wives. The kicker is that, even if they've got friends, said friends (male) are just as silent on issues and don't know how to share.
I've had fathers in their 30>50s that come in to literally cry. It's literally the only place they can truly open up, yet even that has taken months of just sitting in silence.
Listening to this guy talk and explain things LITERALLY feels like reading through the pages of a book
If this video were much longer he probably would have become the new voice of my inner monologue
You don't need a VR headset to live in your own subjectively-curated reality. Smartphones do that enough. Just sit in a subway train of any major city in the world today, say Seoul, and you'll see what I mean.
I'm 26 and have no fkn idea wtf to do with my life.
Edit- I have found my purpose in life and I am on the right track to achieving my goals.
This fella is going places… so confident, articulate and well read.
As an Australian boomer with 3 millennials I found this great, I’m sad because my kids have not much in common so our relationships sometimes get very broken😢
Hang in there mate.
Conner is one of the few out there at the moment worth listening to.
sensational. i have 11 year old twin boys here in australia, and i have seen through their stories of school that the next generation of boys entering high school are fed up of being of no value - high school teachers are in for a ride i believe... especially the women ones - oppress them at your peril.
Born 1992. Glad I managed to make it to around 20 before social media and smart phones etc really kicked it.
My childhood was mud and dens, playing soldiers and getting into mischief, long summer days playing football at the local park.
It's so cliché to say "Oh kids these days!"
But honestly, I can't help but feel these younger generations are missing out on being kids. Bombarded by tech and social media, diversity politics and worries that children shouldn't have to bear.
Its sad.
I'm a dad now too, and I worry for my daughters future.
Excellent idea having Connor on, hes very effective at getting his message across.
This is one very wise and passionate guy, such insight and he understands so many different situations. Great conversation !
It would be hard living in a world where the attractive women don’t know what a women is.
The biggest problem with limiting and controlling kids online access is you are directly limiting their social interaction. I've experienced this with both of my own children, they and their friends don't want to have sleep overs, they don't want to go see their friends and vice versa so if you cut access to online spaces you directly cut interaction with their friends - that's where they are and where they want to be. Our solution to this was the kids access their PC's in the social area of the house, there are always other people around them including the other sibling and they do not have access to devices in private time.
It all feels pretty foreign to me, even as someone who grew up with PC's but they organise movie sessions where they watch a movie together, sometimes using video chat other times just voice chat and that's where their social circles are happy.
This young man is a genius.
One of the best conversations I've heard, at the very least about young men. Thank you very much for this.
What a bright articulate young man.
"What a bright articulate young man."
Or, as feminists would put it: "HE THINKS WOMEN OWE HIM SEX!!!"
The red pill helped me understand sex dynamics and put my divorce in a narrative that I could understand. I believe the red pill gives men an excuse for not doing the hard work of forming a relationship needed to build a family, but you can understand the hesitancy. My grandmother left my grandfather to raise his children alone. My mother, a feminist, left my father. She hated men and her boys, especially me because, as she said, I looked like my father. My wife left me. My uncles, all of them, had children with wives that left them. My aunt broke up her family, too. Looking around me and noticing how connected these events are to each other and the damage it does to children, I have to wonder if marriage should be abandoned all together.
Government contract marriage should be abandoned. Marriage is at its lowest rate ever recorded and more and more men are waking up to the absolutely scam and shot show that is the family court which is completely vindictive against them and are turning away. Couple that with the fact you have to try 10 times harder for a women who has 10x the body count delusion and hatred for men than your grandmother and you’re going to find yourself in a dating crisis which we are only BEGINNING to see the start of. Men don’t find the red pill, the red pill find them when it is rectally inserted and NOTHING about what just happened in their relationship makes sense.
IE think of the guy saying “it doesn’t make sense, she said she wanted to be treated well and I did everything for her. she wanted for nothing but she eventually cheated on me and left me for the guy that treats her like absolute dog shit she always complains about”
you're putting the wrong dots together.
The problem wasn't marriage, people have been successfully marrying for thousands of years.
What lead to all of those divorces you've witnessed and been through is feminism.
@impguardwarhamer I agree, with the caveat of adding in the invention of birth control. So what? You can't put the paste back in the tube. The fact is, the most likely outcome for any man who marries is divorce and heartbreak. Your children will be raised in a chaotic household by another man andbyou will be powerless to stop it.
It’s not feminism it’s a pattern within your family. The fact you also had an unsuccessful marriage confirms that.
@@arohanui922 my family and over half of all families. It seems broken families create more broken families.
What an impressive young man
Gen Z is lost, but they are not hopeless
Gen Z women are lost. Gen Z men are not. Gen Z men know how the world should work. We know we are biologically stronger. We know men are supposed to be the bread winner. The anger comes from younger people being told by older men and young women that women by virtue of being women should be defended and help on a pedastal even though they are the ones pushing this disgusting woke society.
look at conor hitting the bigtime
Lotus is becoming pretty unwatchable but he's impressively cerebral and articulate.
@@offshoretomorrow3346why's Lotus becoming unwatchable? I think they're doing alright. They are a bit wierd in their own way, but that's not bad.
@@andrewplck It's a bit too echo-chambery for my liking, I like Carl, Connor and noticed Callum seems to have vanished which is a shame, some of the others are a bit 'meh'.
@@donmongooseCallum was on the podcast yesterday and today
@@swifty64 I havn't watched it for a few weeks tbh, for the reasons I mentioned. I did watch Carl on Andrew Golds channel though, that was an interesting chat.
Unbelievably smart and original guest. Can't believe he's 25 y.o.
Loyalty for Trump does not come from loyalty to the man but from understanding he is the last chance to peacefully alter the course of the country from a totalitarian regime or failed state. This isn’t a guarantee because it may be too late but it’s the only way forward without surrender or escalation.
Oh no. We're definitely escalating this.
Great interview and as a Gen X, I found what he said interesting and enlightening. His brain obviously works at the speed of light, so I just ask politely that he slows it down a little: not all of us can process his ideas so quickly! 🙂👍
Cultural Revolution. Everyone is being played. Parallel society time, I think.
For sure we are all subject to the bullshit.
Welcome to real life ..
We all feel this way .
Many of us just shove it down and continute forward ..
Once you master that, you will be succesful.