Case 78: The Janabi Family
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Sergeant Yribe was notably stern, straight-faced, and focused when approaching the building. He commanded his squad quickly and efficiently as they swept through the farmhouse performing a building clearance…
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Sad part is this is just one of the few we know about this probably happened a lot and we’ll never know
Not surprised at all by this story. Hopefully one day our female service members who have been victims of similar assaults will find justice.
Don't invade foreign land, occupy it then milk in the first place then..
Give me a break from ur leftist ,feminist rot
Here's hoping. Feel like that's all I can do besides telling people not to join up
Pretty much every female service member has some sort of story of assault by other service members. Mostly by those who are higher ranking.
Amazing how they were jailed for this crime yet are honoured for doing their duty to country when they ‘kill the enemy’
Steven Dale Green was described as the ringleader but I'm sure that James P. Barker was the real one.
It was he who suggested to rape an Iraqi girl, he who knew the Al Janabi's house better than the others (he led the group and brought a special knife to cut a fence in the leading path), he who designated Abeer to rape, he who knew where the father stored his weapon.
I'm pretty sure that it was also he who run his finger into Abeer's cheek (may God bless her soul) because Green and Spielman just arrived a few days before in their checkpoint and this incident occured several days before.
I think he used Green's hatred towards Iraqis to carry out his depraved plan of raping a girl and eliminating the witnesses without having to get his hands dirty.
What a manipulator and a sneaky coward he is ...
Definitely evil 100 💯
That was rough. I'd never heard of this. I cried for everybody. Well told. But one of the hardest stories i've ever heard. Right up there with Leigh Leigh. I'm out for awhile. Overloaded...
Even though these men got what they deserved, the family's suffering on all levels can never be matched. Maybe Green's final act revealed (maybe) his sincerity, he failed to see that he was also responsible for the other 2 torturous deaths of his fellow soldiers. This is like the worst of what war does to people, but it's NO excuse for them to succumb to the evil within. The military is also to blame, knowingly enlisting mentally sick and dangerous people so as to acquire numbers. I hate that such an innocent decent family was destroyed...the kind the world needs....while these evil monsters are still living. Bush himself is an idiot monster.
The military wants people who can kill and murder. As long as they only kill who they want them to kill its all good. But even so, so many countless horror stories just like this one go untold because of the intense comradery and loyalty war causes, and the gross underlying politics and higher ups constantly covering these horrors up for generations of war
and the fact that people are rehabilitating Bush for "not being Trump" is absolutely ridiculous. Just because Trump is bad doesn't automatically mean Bush is any better.
@@nguyenbaokhiem6728 id argue that trump wasn't that bad, but thats another discussion, but trump is far better than Bush, or Clinton, or Obama, as he is the only president in decades to not start any wars
@@nguyenbaokhiem6728 don't forget they are doing the same with John McCain
TBH, his suicide doesn't really even imply any guilt - not that he was capable of it; he was a diagnosed sociopath before the crime was even reported. American prisons are a fate worse than death for a significant plurality of the people in them; it's more surprising that suicide *isn't* the default expectation for most than it is when one actually does it.
Honestly, it has nothing to do with the army enlisting dangerous people and everything to do with the culture of the US army; basically no one involved really saw iraqis as human beings or if they did, actively despised them, and all but like two people were extremely committed to omerta; even the whistleblower's dad told him it would have to be something extremely heinous to report - that one of the guys who knew about it but didn't participate initially assumed they were just going to go beat up some random civilians and didn't consider *that* a problem kinda gets brushed over a lot. There's also the part where the brass initially didn't believe the whistleblower and very nearly murdered him by publicly marking him as a traitor and fucking off.
The problem isn't "the army" as an institution, it's a majority of the people that make it up, and because of American domestic military culture, they're all heroes and beyond reproach.
Justin Watts has integrity...an amazing person.
Indeed!! A rarity among humans.
If I were Mr Watt, I would be extremely proud of my son too!
I just heard casefile 78 a tragedy I though I left back in Iraq. It seems surreal listening to a story I heard as gossip, or unconfirmed story that sometimes was greatly exaggerated by some who craved for attention. I did my tour very closed to these guys. Back then, the 101st division had such a bad reputation. Undisciplined and some of them alleged criminals who would steal anything that it was not nailed. Some of them allegedly committed armed robbery to soldiers, and sexual assaults and drug dealings were among the horror stories. I never cared to confirm any of this allegations, I had a duty to take good care of my soldiers and bring them all back, which I did by the way and ensure they served with discipline and honor. A lot of great things has happened to this unit since and I believed everybody learned from this tough lesson. Soldiers are human and combat can bring the best and worst in you. Only those who has experienced the horror of war can attest to that. What those four did was an unforgiven atrocity which must not overshadow the heroic service and sacrifices of the many and the ultimate sacrifice other, paid for. Thank you for this honest and accurate account. I hope it serves as a lesson learned for those who continue serving in the US Armed Forces.
I feel for you. I personally know a high ranking retired military man who saw some things that most civilians could not even comprehend. Until we are in your shoes we have no right to judge anyone, just love each other as God demands. He will judge. Thank you for your service! Because of you I am free.
This was a common occurrence don't act so high and might their have been countless r*pes done by the US military in Iraq . The Iraqi society is very hush about these topic as they see women as the honour of their family . But this is exactly what the US army is a disgusting organisation
I wish you'd all been buried there, and the inhabitants of the land slept soundly in peace over the graves of you cruel invaders and your criminal leaders in DC who you have never punished one bit.
Yeah, under war and occupation people tend to do rather nasty stuff that goes way beyond shooting people.
I sincerely thank you for your invaluable service.
Very well done. Very fairly presented, what an awful thing to have happened 😢.
I've listened to a lot of your stories that involve children and all equally devastating but this one really hit a nerve. It's beyond comprehension 😥
The boys coming home to find smoke and their family nowhere to be found shocked and broke me
I learned more about the Iraqi war than I ever knew before. Thx narrator and research team.
Very hard to listen to and to find out that men who were automatically thought of as heroes turned out to be monstrous cowards. Poor Abeer and her family. RIP
What a horrific story about war and about the vulnerability it brings on everyone involved on any level or in any way. There are no words to describe this kind of treason and betrayel inflicted upon this innocent and vulnerable family. How unfair can something be ? Harmed by those who should have kept them save. It´s disguisting and it makes you wonder how people can come to be like that. Ofcourse one factor might be the war itself, it makes that people ´get used´ to violence in a certain way. War in itself destroys, even the people with truly good intentions are harmed in a way that might be forever and in very devastating and dark ways. I do not believe people are just born like this, I think for most of us war begins a cycle of violence and trauma, both making repeat very likely to happen. Even between generations. It is just so unfair that certain places on this earth are plagued by generations of war victems, both who fight in it and those who don´t. This cycle must be broken !! War, legal violence, it can never be a solution for the solution is not truly found in pain and suffering. That´s the problem so it will not be the solution. Unfortunatly dark energy is stronger than light energy and so positivness is needed in millions more to win from the darkness in this world. Nowadays refugees are seen as the problem, but lets be fair, wouldn´t everyone prefer to stay within their own culture, with their own family friends etc, language etc ? It´s such a complicated cycle of hurt and misery. I hope we , as humanity in itself,, can overcome this rather sooner than later.... My heart goes out for this lovely family that did not deserve anything of this. Love & light, Soof.
It will all stop once the USA stops meddling in the affairs of other countries
This one hit home for me. My son was in Afghanistan in 2010-2011. Not one of the men he served with came back the same and the military provided little care regarding their mental health while they were there nor after their return to US soil. Because of their lack of care, the majority of them began self medicating with alcohol and or drugs and then were punished for it instead of being given the help they desperately needed and still need. The atrocities of war really damages the minds of many involved, regardless of their mental health prior to enlistment. No one deserves what war does to them. During the time frame that this story took place, the government did NOT care who they enlisted. All they wanted were bodies to fight without any regards to the aftermath.
Justin Watts is a legend! If it wasn’t for him, those pieces of shit wouldn’t have been brought to justice, though they should’ve been killed there, the way they murdered that innocent family :(((
He is an absolute hero.
Yes!
Moral courage is one of the Army Values, do the right regardless of the consequences and Mr Watt lived up to it.
These guys brought shame to themselves, the American military, and to America. They annihilated a family and left two young boys as orphans. Shame will be your companion for the remainder of your lives. I hope the Janobi boys are able to heal. I have never been in a wartime situation and realize it could change my perception of this event. Why was J Watt able to retain his humanity, while others weren’t? Character, individual strength, an inborn strength? So many questions raised by this event.
May they rest in peace poor people....
Yes, especially that 14-year old girl.
Thank you for another great upload
The sad part is that American soldiers who instigated the Mý Lai Massacre in Viet Nam on civilians make these guys pale in comparison.
I'm not minimizing the occurance here at all, which simply emphasizes how very much more atrocious the behavior was of some of Charlie Company in Viet Nam's "Pinkville". And on a larger scale over a longer period of time.
This automatic awe and semi-worship of military personnel and troops in this country has got to stop. This from the daughter of a drill Sargeant. A person saying "I'm a veteran" is suddenly off-limits to any kind of scrutiny or criticism, and everything they say suddenly becomes gospel. Actually because of the level of responsibility, consequences of their actions and opportunities for abuse toward vulnerable people, military personnel need to be held to higher standards of scrutiny, not lower ones.
Then there are people who enlist *because* they are violent and sadistic, and see "serving" as an opportunity to engage in sanctioned killing and maiming. They come home to being put on a pedestal. For them, what could be better?
Nowwww, before anybody goes and gets their knickers in a knot, of course service is appreciated. As well, I'm perfectly aware that these are a few "bad apples" in a big barrel- but as we can see, the debauchery of those few bad apples can quickly have widespread and devastating repercussions.
It cant be denied- everyone has to be accountable.
You do realise that the Vietcong did much much worse don't you?
You know why there's awe and semi worship for the military? Because war is f$&king horrible and nations need a military
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I don't remember the Viet Cong on US soil thousands of miles away creating a mess for the surrounding countries for years to come.
@@erichoberg3502 I'm talking about to their own people big brained
@@PoetofHateSpeech you should look at the history of Vietnam, viet Cong was fighting for independence from invading forces. America did far worse and should of minded their own business.
@@jpw5029 For starts, the north was funded and supplied by China and Russia, the south asked for help.
And no America didn't do much worse lol. Put down the pipe
I bet you support communism don't you?
Damn, CF! What a terrible, highly volatile story....and you tell it with confidence and ,clarity.....easing us into the truth, slowly, as if your audience has a vested interest in the subject matter And, we do, indeed!
Thank you so much for caring enough about the truth to present it to us in bite- sized pieces!!!!
Keep up the good work!!!!!
vì vậy đây là ý của họ khi họ nói về "tự do và dân chủ". Cô gái tội nghiệp, hãy yên nghỉ 😢😥
I enjoy your narrative and your voice.
Hmmmnm..... Bush at the end saying "No more torture chambers". Who exactly had the torture chamber at Guantanamo, eh Georgie?
Two of them were eligible for parole after 10 years. Considering it has been 14 years to their sentences, have they got parole? Paul E. Cortez and Jesse V. Spielman. There is no news/update regarding them after 2007. Are they still in prison or they got out? It would be a shame if they did.
I can't find any recent update, which makes me hopeful that they are still inside as it seems like it would be major news if they were released.
@@thrillho4209 I wonder if they could be released under fake names. I hope not ...
I can almost guarantee that they have been paroled
@@lunagoodhart5489 Seriously ? Do you have a proof ?
Thanks.
They should have got their karma like the two taken hostage and killed. They should have been put to death like they did to this family. To shoot a 6 year old. And rape and murder a 14 year old. They deserve to end their days and make their journey to hell. 😡. Sick.
Nghe câu chuyện về cuộc sống êm đềm của cô gái với gia đình, và những sự kiện kinh hoàng xảy ra sau đó, tôi thực sự muốn khóc.
American soldiers committed multiple war crimes in Vietnam as well. Both Bush Presidents are War Criminals
Very sad, I feel sorry for that poor family.
Only the dead have seen the end of war.
Unbelievable and horrific
Inna lilahi wa inna ilayhi rajioon
May Allah (S.w.t) punish and torment the opressers of our brothers and sisters 🤲🏽☪️
Monsters!
Oh boy.... this was so hard. 💔
Im reminded of a saying, im not sure who said it but its something like this -
" faced with terrible acts in a war situation, the leader is told he is a monster, but he turns to his detractors, his government & tells them if im a monster, what does that make all of you?"
The most mild mannered & good people are turned into monsters when faced with the atrocities committed by their own & their enemies in a war they dont understand, they are cattle fodder for enemy guns to mow down.
Its the men in suits who sit in govenment offices, creating wars for power, dominance, control & financial gain because believe me, there are vast amounts of financial gain for those in power from instigating war
Its excellent business for a government & those manufacturers providing all the accoutrements of war.
These are the real monsters, not the shell shocked, maimed, mutilated, desensitized, indoctrinated, demoralised, corrupted men who take on the uniform thinking they are doing the right thing for the right reasons in defence of oppression & truth & freedom & thats exactly what the war mongers want
Its not the poor soldier grunt, viewed as sub human by his own government, expendible until it serves the government to shine a light & highlight a troop or individual as a war hero, all atrocities, as in this story swept under the carpet keeping it all neat & tidy, smiling faces, pinning on medals, all is good
Well it isnt, the monster fat cats are still in charge & letting war damaged men take the rap
Im not condoning what was done in this story but there are thousands upon thousands of stories like this & many that would haunt your mind till yr dying day, they are so so very bad.
Its perspective & the continued
War machine churning out power & money to the real monsters.
They didn’t have a conscience though did they. Do they were just as bad as the fact cats. They murdered an innocent family.
War is bad. This video shows what it does to people, makes monsters out of them. That poor Iraqi family... Just when they thought they carved out their own little niche that was safe for raising their family, the rug gets swept right from under their feet. No place is safe when you think it's safe, war or no war.
Mr. Watts listened to his conscience.
After listening to so many extraordinarily Casefiles this one cut me to my core. I was so wrong on so many levels. It seems the cascading events started in the Pentagon with poor troops vetting, poor troop support, and failure of leadership at the military highest level who are responsible for what happened to the Janabi family and little Abeer. I have woken up crying over this case as I too was in the Army and could see how everyone involved failed them, from the top down. Shame on the command.
Green's statement where be said he did no see Irag people as human was a lie. He was damaged and cold for some reason far before he entered the military. He didn't see anyone as human because he was so hurt himself. But, remember he did not bring up the idea going to the farm and of raping Abeer. He wanted to kill, raping was a bonus for him. The who suggested the rape in the first place had a real problem and that need to be addressed.
The Army should have seen that. They did but they were desperate. General Colin Powell would have told them never to operate under desperation since their would be built in failures.
It's not necessarily at all true that some experience(s) which might have hurt a person like Green would make him behave in such a despicable way. It's completely possible that he didn't ever look at any human or living creature as having value. Some sadistic killers have come from relatively supportive backgrounds, and many, many compassionate and productive people have come from unimaginable backgrounds of horror and depravity, to go on to be very empathetic people.
It's becoming more and more revealed that much of psychopathy and sociopathy are already personality traits. Sure, traumatic circumstances can ignite a latent psychopathic tendency in a person, however in those folks it's not wholly created by external circumstances.
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I totally agree.
@@blueclover9918yes. They should never let anyone in the police or army with any previous crimes or record of a crime. Drinking drug problems a def no. They should be better for a good few years before being trusted with a hun and sent out to a war torn country. I can’t believe how f d up this is.
love love love this channel...soothing voice, also...
It is pleasant. However the amount of mispronounced words, in his native language, is irritating.
Harry's are excellent!
'mmurucaa.. violent bullies as always. Even to this day.
Yeah. Who's the tyrant exactly? Which country groomed and supported and then armed Hussein ? Which arrogant bully country has invaded multiple other countries in very recent times? Which country brainwashes their military to hate an 'enemy' ? ( actually most countries would answer yes to that last question.. it is the nature of the military and politics is it not ? Find someone to blame for our own problems .. ? Not saying there is no individual responsibility but saying the entire threatening then unlawful invasion of Iraq to begin with was an abhorrent game of politics and bullying perpetrated by the so called leaders of the U.S. The consequences were inevitable. And remain so for countless veterans tricked into going into 'war' then betrayed by tgeir country on return. Ask them.
Than you for the thorough research and presentation of this horrific event.
👏👏👏
This one stunned me - they were supposed to be the good guys.
None of us are "good guys", just allies or enemies.
They were always the bad guys their are countless stories like these that simply will never be told
Why were they supposed to be the good guys? Because they are Americans? There is nothing good in what the US and its allies have been doing in the last 30 years since the USSR collapsed. 6 sovereign nations invaded resulting in wars that cost over 4 million people their lives in total. For what? Democracy? Is Iraq a shining example of democracy today? Is Libya? Syria? Sure, maybe the average American honestly thinks that his nation is standing for good in the world. But reality does not always match our beliefs. The fact of the matter is that invading another nation in order to establish democracy by force is not really democracy. It is just a lie the US government tells their people in order to justify yet another invasion/military intervention.
Good guys don't exist
War is like this.permission to murder.is that criminal? Were only the boundaries of permission violated?
Sick and sad. Poor family. RIP. 🙏🏻❤️
Cliché time - War is Hell.
Especially when, as Green rightly states, it's pointless.
🙏
So much evil in the world.
Even good soldiers can become corrupted. Put them in a situation like this where at the best of times they're lonely and bored and hating life and at the worst of times terrified that they are going to be killed or horribly maimed by an IED or captured and tortured and butchered, and make them go through this for months on end, and even good ones, who normally would never even consider something like this, could snap. They were all talking about how paranoid and edgy they'd become, suspicious of all Iraqis because you never could tell which ones were dangerous. It's no wonder so many of them came back with crippling PTSD and a shadow of heir former selves then got no help from the VA. It's no wonder veteran suicides are so high. A lot of these guys had to go on multiple tours. How much can one person take? Put a soldier who already has mental problems in a situation like this and it's a recipe for disaster.
Back in I believe it was 2005, I had been out of the Army for five years. The 48th Infantry Brigade, a NG unit out of Georgia, was over there then. They have been deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan multiple times. One of the guys I had met before they deployed, a sergeant, was trying to talk me into going into the 48th, since I had six years active duty experience and had got out as a sergeant, like Yribe. The guy had to come back on emergency leave. He started telling me about what it was like over there and mentioned some soldiers who had been killed, and some guy got his leg blown off, and other horrific things that were going on. I thought to myself why the hell would I volunteer for that. A young lieutenant with the 3rd Infantry Division who is from my hometown got blown to pieces by an IED. His mother was my high school English teacher back in the 80's. Hearing stories like this make me glad I never had to experience anything like what the guys who went over there did.
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"After years of endless, failing wars in the middle east..." uh, in 2005? That war wasn't endless or failing in 05, in fact it only started like 3 years earlier. Also, you said in the first 10 minutes that US and coalition troops did exactly what they intended to do in the first 3 weeks!
By adding that line, it just shows exactly what type of person you are. A ridiculous, throw away line that you could have completely left out and it wouldn't have made an ounce of difference to the story, you show your level of competence to evaluate warfare, geopolitical situations and quite honestly, the truth v some idiot's opinion. Bravo.
When does the next podcast come out?? Hopefully you do a podcast on Australian gangsters or the monster of Worcester..
Andrew-the-composer tests all the sponsorship products! Love it. New furniture, smooth face, secure music studio to boot. Great podcast and I always ask 'What's Andrew trying this week?' Oh, and it works. The music is fantastic. Evocative, relevant but not interfering in the narrative.
Omg, I dont know what to say about this, so horrible on every level
Who am I to sit in the comfort of my home and and even try to comprehend what a soldier of war and its atrocities may go through? I felt horror and justification in a split second but ultimately have to say that no one in this story can be proud of what they took part in. Would I have been so scared for my life that I would remain silent; would I be so honorable to my fellow soldiers to look the other way or would I do what was morally right? Talk about being conflicted. This was so heartbreaking..
Stop trying so hard to justify and humanize the scum that these people are
Isn't it the honorable thing to do the right thing even under duress and threat of one's own life?
Can you do a video of the innocent Afghan farmers massacred by Australian marines?
Why do I feel like I NEED to see what Sergeant Anthony looks like
...& meanwhile the Bush's & the Chaneys are living in luxurious comfort in their multi million $$$ homes.
I was against the invasion of Iraq like most not I repeat not against our soldiers.
There were entire countries and governments against the Invasion of Iraq. Canada outright refused to participate, we went into Afghanistan to help the Afghanis defeat and remove the Taliban. However, the fight against the IS was different. Canada went straight in to help the Iraqis.
@@TiffWaffles New Zealand was another. I'm no fan of Saddam or the Tailban but if you look at the situation post invasion to today who would you rather have in charge?
And I’m sure there was big money involved somewhere. 😢
@@lorrainefryer of course
This is one of the worst things I've ever heard. For once, I kind of wish I hadn't listened to an episode of yours. But it was well told.
what on earth is a specialist promotable?
probably a specialist who is qualified for promotion, but that has to wait until they are back from the field. No battlefield promotions under these circumstances.
@@HappyBeezerStudios It's not really a rank, he is still a specialist and would be addressed as such. His fellow soldiers aren't going to refer to him as 'specialist promotable' like they do in the video, just 'specialist'. It means someone who has met some of the requirements for promotion, such as attending a promotion board and maybe going to a required school, but is waiting to meet a certain promotion score before they can actually get promoted. When I was in the US Army to make sergeant you had to appear at a unit promotion board then attend a school called PLDC prior to getting promoted. Same thing with staff sergeant. For a sergeant to make staff sergeant they had to appear before a board then go to a school called BNCOC, at which point the were a sergeant promotable (but still just referred to as 'sergeant') then wait till the point score dropped low enough for you to get promoted. Those schools have changed now but I believe it's still the same basic process. When I was in he could have under these circumstances. He wasn't waiting to get back from the field, just to meet another requirement. If you meet the standard requirements to get promoted that isn't a battlefield promotion. A battlefield promotion or commission is where a soldier is promoted without meeting the standard requirements, but where there is a severe need for more soldiers with higher rank.
Evil
Not unlike the US "Charlie company" during the Vietnam War
durr jingoism bad durr
@Modern Spirit the training must be very much lacking if these guys have this kind of predisposition going into their tours- not only for the Australians but for most countries.
Not only that, i can't believe there's much screening of people enlisting. Do they really need troups that badly?
Unfortunately, I wouldn't be surprised if all those guys got off. They're the only witnesses and they can say whatever they want in court.
The only redeeming part of this video, is this fellow Chapman stepping up to blow the whistle so to speak.
Despicable, and sad that it's not surprising.
@@baseballworldwide9439 you're a fuckin' idiot.
It sure is bad buddy.
@@PaulRudd1941 really hot take
@@baseballworldwide9439 you're welcome. Sorry you didn't realize it before champ.
Shouldn't you be throwing your life away in another endless American war right now?
War sucks.
That poor family ought have run for their lives from this American "soldiers" (bullies)
disgusting!!
it really is, especially when he gets into the details. I wish the poor innocent family that was killed, especially the 14-year old girl, is resting in peace
Those soldiers should of been handed over to the iraqi people to be hung or at least been given the death penalty by the US . Justice has not been done in my opinion.
Exactly. Let those child killers face there karma.
Very well researched and narrated, but what a horrible story. This one reinforces my doubts about justice being served where criminals can be paroled so soon after such awful crimes. That is criminal in my book.
Operation Phoenix
I just started watching this channel, please stop pretending you and your whole staff use every product that sponsors you....it makes me doubt the credibility of the channel as a whole.
Crime channels tend to get demonitised and they need to eat.
It's a full time job.
Don’t listen then. It’s his job, advertising helps pay the bills. Wow.
We tried to rebuild Iraq.
Stop the cap, we didn't do shit, we are simply prostitutes.
Brainwashed GMO
@@mahsaahsam7823 "We"?
@@user-zx6zv5xq6o GMO?
And what was wrong with it? It was fine before the allied forces arrived.
A lot of liberal literary licence here as usuall
May the Janabi family and those innocent soldiers who was murdered rest in peace until the resurrection of the dead.
flowers 🤍🌷🤍🌹🌷🌹🌸🤍🌷🌹🤍 for the dead😮💨