How not to Black burst A Flame maple guitar with Transtints
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- čas přidán 14. 03. 2014
- This vid sucks. Take a look at my better way to do a blackburst.
Inside the Luthier's Shop with BigDGuitars.com. Here is how a do a blackburst on a flame maple top
you destroyed it with that last sand. I watched you sand it and started panicking because you WOULDN'T STOP.
omg same
Did you guys Not read the title of the video? "How Not to Black burst a Flame Maple guitar" the key word there is this video is showing you what NOT to do.
Always a HUGE anti climax when you work us up and end the vid BEFORE the freaking clearcoat finish!!! DAMNIT MAN!!!!
+Scott Patterson yes hear ya loud and clear, all vids moving forward will have that. Check out some of my newer bursts
I'm staining a bass without a burst or anything just one flat color so how would I go on about it I don't know which stain to use?
Maybe you can tell me, why does my trans black edwards guitar look almost purple in the sun some times? Its an ash body
Thanks for sharing the 'not' how to...lol!
I learned something here too, thanks!
Hey! I like all your videos that I have seen!
does wipe on poly differ to normal poly varnish as to how the last coat has to be continuous all over the body for it to be perfect?
The Zepp playing in the background was an unexpected delight
Sorry it looks like shit.
Patience, and consistent sanding/dying are very important. I'll be doing a kit soon, and will upload a video. Investing in an airbrush for $200 which comes with a mini compressor is a huge benefit for blending/fading evenly.
Wheres the video??
The color is not as smooth as it has to be. Very rough transition from black to grey.
Very cool! Question: have you ever considered building a touchstyle instrument?
Do you use sanding sealer or grain filler? I am going to try this on a mahogany wood.
Very good demonstration
the poly you used is that minwax clear satin or clear gloss?
Where did you get our paper "will it color the wood ?" ?
It seems very interresting
Dumb noob question maybe bit what kind if prep did u do to the ash? Did you grain fill it or anything?
Using water satin, you said put oil on or whatever, then put more water based stain - surely water base & Oil, then water base this won't work?
Hello! Greetings from Brazil! Whats the speed sanding?
how did you make the guitar less heavy? can you be more specific or make a video or share a link on how to? i would love to learn this. did you just sand down all of the drilling?
looks like he used a forstner drill bit and drilled out alot of the body before gluing the top on. 1:00
What happens if we reverse the colors.?
The finished is very amazing 😯
Looks awesome
Why can't we see the finished product!? Where's the climax!??
Part 2?
hey what do you use to wipe on the poly? is it some kind of special cloth or sponge?
just an old rag
Where did you get that body? I can't find a tele shape with HH and no thin line.
He built it from scratch.
I work in autobody and want to know if I could use automotive finishes to achieve similar results? My thought was paint silver base and airbrush black on the edge.
Seth Cushing too thick my friend. your guitar will sounds like glass. much treble haha
I know, this question, is a year old. If you're still concerned; you can definitely use automotive paint. The finish on your guitar has nothing to do with the sound of your guitar. It's a myth.
SPAWN WINTERS nope this is wrong. Definitely too thick. That's why we use stains. If you want it's a sound only like the pickups not like the actual instrument then go ahead.
Evan Fife The whole "tonewood" thing, is a myth. There are guitars made of acrylic, for God's sake! Have you seen Fender's video of the cardboard strat? Sounds just like a real one.
SPAWN WINTERS the guitars made of acrylic have a very specific tone to them, and the acrylic mimics the density of specific Woods closer to ebony. Also in that video Fender uses specific pickups that help model the sound. Specifically the lows and mids. pick up a guitar with the same pickups that's made of different wood and you'll be able to hear the difference.
What are the dimensions of your uncut piece of wood that you will later turn in 2 Les Paul necks?...Thanks!
3x6x35 is usually the starting point. I can get two necks out of that
great! thanks a lot. Im in the middle of my first LP build. hopefully on my next (if there is one) ill use your jigs to be much more efficient, and can make more than one at the same time
***** just out of curiosity, were did you get your LP neck templates, or did you make them?
Hey I was gonna find you on Facebook to show you picks of my build I stained with rit dye. What do I search?
I was thinking about staining my guitar then spraying a nitro burst around the edge, would this work and would the paint look like it was a different layer or would it blend in well?
I know I'm not the one you were asking, but yes this would work. Stain it and apply your sealer. Then use your tinted nitro to spray on your burst and finish with your top clear coats. If you can control your gun/airbrush well enough theres no reason why it shouldn't turn out fantastic.
Brad Angove Thanks for that. Love your videos BTW :D
I was going to do it with spray cans, I'm guessing the same rules apply? Also I was thinking about adding a metal flake on the stain. Would I just add a thin clear coat after staining > wait till tacky then add the flake > add more clear coats to seal flakes? Should this work? Then add the the burst after that has dried.
Any advice would be appreciated : )
Thanks, I'm glad you didn't mind me intruding when you were asking someone else.
Yes, the same rules would apply. As for the metal flake, how were you going to apply it? It sounds like you're just kinda sprinkling it on, in which case you have it pretty much right on except that you don't want to wait until it's tacky. Just toss it on there while the sealer/clear is wet. Also, consider whether you want the flake to go over or under the tint. This will affect it's appearance. If you do wait until the paint is tacky to add the flake it's not a big deal because it's lacquer and the layers melt together, but this isn't the case with some other paints. If you throw the flake on while the first layer is still wet, you don't need to seal it in with another coat before painting the burst, your final clear coats will take care of that.
Brad Angove
Not at all, thanks for intruding : D I have heard of people doing the flakes with a flour duster that you would use in the kitchen, I would probably go that route. I'm not planning on going full sparkle, more sparkle effect type thing. Thanks again, I'm sure I'll be back when something goes wrong haha : D
I have another question if you don't mind, How would you go about apply the finishing touches to a nitro (spray tin) matte black finish. What are the steps after spray black > matte clear coats > ? My concern is that if I sand it afterwards then it will turn glossy/shiny. I'm looking for a Fender Jim Root strat/tele vibe, the flatter (more matte) the better. cheers : )
Spudvader I did a gold burst years ago with a gold acrylic, been thinking about doing that again, need to find the right top.
What do you do with the raised grain on the sides and back BigD?
+Chris Dalby I get them sealed down with tru-oil or whatever oil base I am using and then sand down with boiled linseed oil. Check out my finishing with tru-oil vid thats my process and it gets everything perfect.
+BigDGuitars - Thanks for the advice mate, I checked out the Tru Oil vid, and learned a lot. :)
I am doing a purple burst on my Tele but the body is Basswood so I know there is only minimal figure. It is a good piece of Basswood though. Some of the best I have seen.
I have checked out you Purple Burst video and the results are just beautiful.
I am going to dye the back and sides black, with black wood dye, and then sunburst the top edges with the black, blending it into the sides. I'm then going to hit the top with a Purple wood dye, following your Purple Burst video. I'll give the whole guitar a good few coats of sanding sealer.
At the end of that video you said you hit the top with a couple of coats of Lacquer. Was that from a spray gun? I intend to leave the back and sides with a matt finish, so the top lacquer coat blends into the matt sides, by taping off the sides where the bevel starts.
Any advice buddy? :)
we never see a finnished product
Love Blackburst.
3:43 vanta blacked it?
India ink is made out of shellac, pigment and water;
Can it be use for this work?
yes
Even though you bookmatched the top, why is one side lighter than the other?
lighting and camera angles. its looking pretty good at this point. I have three coats of finish on
It looks great. The Les Paul came out great.
Dude this comment section is toxic! Can't a guy make a mistake? He's usually a lot better than this, and you can't judge all of his work on just one of his videos! Everybody is hating on him, and there's no constructive criticism. You're all just saying how much you hate it, where's your decency? I hate to pull the "prove that you can do better before you judge" card, but seriously! Nobody is actually offering any advice on how to improve it, so who the hell are you to decide it's worth? Anyway, as a fellow artist, I totally understand having unsightly errors in my projects. I appreciate your effort, and I'm confident that you will continue to improve. Good work man
Graves
The thrill of victory...and the agony of defeat.
though i have not attempted this yet i think you are sanding off too much at once for the burst look
Im sorry but that maple burl looks incredible to me
Yeah I was a bit worried when he said to use really white wood because I was planning on putting trans black dye on a black limba body that is highly figured. But then I saw that burl tele and was like.. yeah I can live with that.
*needed more black*
Understatement of the century!
Most people commenting have echoed my observations. Suffice to say, this is definitely *not* the right way to apply a 'burst stained' finish to a figured top. I'm assuming that the telecaster in question has a capping... If it were just a veneer, you certainly don't want to be doing all that sanding.
5:10 "the key is to go deluded" lol
You really seem to over sand the center, it really lost the gray after the last pass.
2 part bleach the maple and get it white as paper first!
Then use pearl grey as the base color, then come back with a true black... either India ink or micro pigments that act like dyes but are permanent and don't fade! And yes... Get a touch up gun to apply for first class work ok?
No! Tnx....
I have watched your bids for a while and have enjoyed them but that black burst was not good at all. Try putting a thin line of black around the edge and then use clean dry or very lightly wetted cloth to blend inward. Or just get a spry gun. Your craftsmanship deserves better.
its lighting and angle the body looks great.
And denial comes in all forms. But no....guitar looks like shit and I would never let you hold one of my guitars let alone work on one. HACK
@@AnarchYAshAubrey What did you expect? The video is titled "How NOT to do a burst" so he is obviously aware that it didn't go that great, and how to improve it. In the description there's a link to a video where he redid it and it turned out a lot more professional! Just because he made this one mistake doesn't mean he's a hack, have some damn respect!
If I were going to burst, I would stain the color I wanted and airbrush the blacks at the end.
Oh No . Sorry man . Its a flop
now this has me scared to do my first stain job
Now i know how my side chick feels.
I'm disappointed with this big D 😂
The Homies that's why I changed the title to how not to do this!!
BigDGuitars - yeah and i tell my side chick "this is how we're NOT supposed to make love!" We all have a good laugh.
Surely you didn't put a finish on that lol
Tele's look best one solid color - JMO.
I love them all!
no finished product pics? doesn't look right when its wet. everyone thinks you didn't do well, but that's because we haven't seen the dry finished product. judging by the les Paul you did, this Tele should look great.
+Clayton Sage This one was ok. The les paul and other tele look amazing compared to this. I needed to hit this once more with black to even it out.
+BigDGuitars - will you be posting a video or pictures somewhere? id love to them. Thanks for replying by the way
Gray wash it first then do the sides. You are using way too much black and sanding it back way too much.
That much sanding isn’t needed if you were not making it black as midnight.
That's a horrific butcher job of a finish.
Looked better to me before you sanded it for 20 minutes
One hideous looking veneer seam.
Just change the title: "What NOT to do" Sorry.
very true this is not a good one... this vid is much better: czcams.com/video/pa5eU2oU0jw/video.html
I don't understand why people like a blackburst.. it looks like the stain job is unfinished..
You're capable of better work. That turned into a Brad Angove special. Exceptional wood is easy to stain and make look wood. Mediocre maple like that Telecaster is a job for lacquer toners.
Tragic.
Anyone else 'bout to smash their computer every time they see that CZcams red ad with that shitty music?
Instead of sanding it the last time you should've left it alone. Looks like shit
Blech. ZERO feathering. I'd just remove this video.
Yea it’s probably time.
The worst burst job I’ve ever seen.
yes this is awful. not sure why I leave this video up...