2024 Hyundai Elantra N | Hard to Believe It
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- čas přidán 2. 06. 2024
- We revisit the new 2024 Hyundai Elantra N and discuss the changes and updates for $35,000. We set a lap time, showed the engineering, and drove it on the street to compare it to cars like the Civic Type R, Toyota GR Corolla, Integra Type S, and Subaru WRX. Which would you choose?
#cars #engineering #technology
Index:
00:00 Interior and Exterior Changes
4:22 Mechanical Changes and Weight
9:16 Track Impressions
11:45 Street Driving Impressions
17:30 Final Thoughts and Laptime Discussion - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Jack thought if he showed off his biceps enough I wouldn’t notice he spilled coffee on his shirt in the shop. But I did.
😂
I thought he was getting so excited about this car that he shot himself in the chest.
Well it worked for me.
Mechanical extravaganza? All I see is a brachial extravaganza.
What's this video about again?
Dude is flexing hard
Savage
The great thing about this car is 98 percent of dealers I’ve gotten ahold of are selling this car at MSRP with no accessories added to inflate the price. You can actually get these for 36 grand
Yup the demand is pretty low and you can actually negotiate below MSRP. But they also depreciate like a beanie baby at a Will Smith meet-and-greet.
@@TheBreakfastLover they won’t hold value as good as a type R but 2-3 year old Ns are up at dealers still for 29-33 grand
You're not considering how hard these depreciate. The CTR and GT Corolla don't.
I couldn’t get one in 2022 for MSRP so ordered my DCT N for $33,500 after the finance rebate.
@@sdlausen1 Majority of 2022s are listed for 31k+, look it up. MSRP back in 2022 was 33K. Doesn’t look like they are depreciating as hard as you thought lol
Mark nailed it. If Hyundai can build this car for this price, the Honda’s, Toyotas and VWs of the world should be able to.
Well in the case of Honda and the Type R, it’s mainly the name you’re paying more for.
Eh, don’t dilute the other brands. We don’t know how the sauce is made at Hyundai. VW has held their prices as much as possible over the last 8 years, which is saying something considering inflation.
@@DS-nw4eqthey were caught in a huge scandal. People stopped taking the brand as serious after. It doesn’t really matter as they own Audi, Porsche etc
But at least cars from those 3 brands listed will last more than 30k miles.
Quality is way above and beyond in Toyota and Honda at least, and that has a cost to produce. VW in the other hand is all about technology and unbeatable driving dynamics, plus tradition and design (yes, the looks matters). So, Hyundai knows it is the new kid on the block, it doesn’t have the looks, certainly not the quality of its competitors, let alone the tradition. The price is just right for what you get, IMHO!
Still rocking my ‘22 EN. After 2 years and 30,000 miles, it still puts a smile on my face every single day. I’m mid-40s and refuse to spend $40k+ on a car - at some point I’m sure that’ll have to change - but if there’s a car like the Elantra N available to me, I’d buy it again.
60,000KM on my 2023 EN and still going strong.
Great car! I'll buy yours for 15 grand now. 🤣🤣
Just curious - what are insurance rates like for this car?
@@TML34 not for sale. I definitely didn’t buy it for resale value. I buy cars to keep, not switch out every year.
@@bryanbuoni8111 it depends on so many factors, it’s impossible to say what yours would be.
The Elantra N is the world's first mass-produced car to contain the drive shaft system used in the WRC. Of course, this is not a very advanced technology, but even BMW M and Mercedes AMG cannot use it because the production cost and unit cost are too high and the heat treatment, processing, and suspension assembly processes must all be changed to apply it to mass-produced cars.
However, Hyundai applied this system even at the cost of giving up its own profits to improve the driving experience and reduce lap times. I thought Hyundai was a cheap car company that only pursued profits, but after seeing this, my impressions of Hyundai changed to a company of car enthusiasts who are crazy about the soul of motorsports. There is still a gap in technology, but their passion may make them more car enthusiasts than BMW M.
I remember when Hyundai first entered the WRC. Almost every car fan in the world laughed at Hyundai. I also felt bad that a company like Hyundai dared to enter the WRC and thought that a company that made money by selling a lot of cheap cars would enter motorsports for marketing. But Hyundai won the WTCR over 20 times and won WRC twice in a row.
people are still laughing at hyundai
@@thomasengel1459yep scatpacks laugh until you dust em
@@thomasengel1459 probably, mostly Honda Owners. VeEE-TecCCC- Be Quit clowns 🤡
Well yea overseas, Hyundai is a serious motorsport contender. They host yearly fan events everywhere but North America. The fact that they made their N cars for "n"thusiasts says alot about their motto for, especially when they could just slap on a 40k msrp on this car like every other mfg.
What drive shaft? It's FWD
You’ve probably heard this thousands of times from hundreds of subscribers at this point… but I have to say again, I am BLOWN AWAY by the level of production and quality that you guys put into your videos! I follow a lot of car channels, but you bring a completely different level of honesty, passion and art to these videos that few others can approach!
Thank you Jack and Mark, looking forward to many more of your car reviews!
21 track days, 6 of those being competition days and my Elantra N is still going strong. No issues with overheating on-track and it makes 350whp on a dynojet.
absolute ripper
Big ripper!
I'd pick a Type R....currently own 2023 RS3
@@fzr1000981 It's like 10-15K more, but yeah definitely a solid option.
@@williamrori1274 how is the manual trans? Heard the Type R is above average
I WANT a type R I WANT a Nissan z I WANT a gr Corolla but guess what. I'm not spending 50-60k on a car especially for what we are getting here. Oh BuT ItS a HyUnDaI, yeah and guess what that's the only manufacturer that actually wants to give us cool cars and not fleece us in the process, so there.
Yeah, ok. But take your meds first. 😆
I sell both and honestly the Elantra N is a much nicer place to be in and more engaging car to drive. The interior of the GR Corolla still feels like a $24k Corolla for $45k and up
Then do it. If you want to cheap out and buy from a manufacturer who doesn't honor their warranty, it's on you.
Hyundai is cheap for a reason.
@@joshgts9675 ive got an i20N and a couple things have failed and its been a warranty job every time no questions asked. $38k car
I picked my '24 Elantra N in Intense Blue 10 days ago and I want to continue driving every day. It's everything I ever wanted in a car. I love this car so much. 36.6k new. Im convinced this is the only new car I will ever buy.
Manual or auto?
Hyungay🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Friend has a 2019 Hyundai Sonata that caught on fire while her mechanic was driving it after a maintenance schedule.
Lets see how that car does in 10 years. If it's still even driveable
@@chigasaki06 Auto, I love putting it in slap shift and using the paddles on backroads, makes it so fun!
Watching this as it drops instead of going to sleep. Worth it every time
Is it
Glad I’m temporarily 9 time zones ahead of my usual central time.
Watching it in Poland, best auto channel 😊
Im waiting for Topher to make a video on this car
true hyundai owners never sleep though, repair bills keep them up stressed.
I Dad and Track a 23 EN, and agree with the Nthusiasm for this car. I had a lot of brand prejudice against Hyundai and Kia, but once I saw what a weapon the EN is at autocross, and refusing to be extorted by Honda dealers, I bought one at MSRP with no add-ons. I am completely stoked on this car. Well done Hyundai
They earned that negative image, but man they've come a long way!
Hyundai and kia gets a bad reply from Japan fanboys that hate when a car that isn't a Toyota does better.
@@ghoulbuster1 I was a Toyota fan-boy until we got a Solara that drank more oil than a Subaru, but not enough to qualify for the recall. That experience really turned me off from the brand as a whole.
I still have people that talk smack on Hyundai reliability - but 10yr 100k mile warranty will tell. I believe they've made serious effort to remodel their QAQC.
hyundais are complete garbage. Might have fun wit them for 3 years and they will fall apart in the worst way
instead you decide to be extorted by low quality engines that will explode around 40K. good luck.
As a Hyundai service adviser I have yet to see any Elantra N or Kona N reliability issues. These powertrains are still relatively new and not nearly as common, but you can take that for what its worth. I've seen practically new Santa Fe's and Tucson's requiring a new transmission or fuel injector (granted these instances are very rare). I generally think a lot of it has to do with how diligent the owners are with regular maintenance. N owners are almost diabolical about it while some (not all) of the regular bread and butter owners never check their oil and go 7-10K between oil changes (don't do that, especially with thin oil) and wonder why its consuming oil at 50 or 60K.
How about failed DCTs or over revving DCTs? Those are the 2 things I’ve seen around the web (not that you can trust the internet) but it still creates worry. Heck there’s a guy in the comments who said his DCT was replaced at 1600 kilos.
buddy, Hyundais are complete garbage vehicles. Dont last past 40k without serious engine troubles. I'm sure you make good money in the service department on these pieces of shit. But dont come on here lying about quality. Hyundais and Kias are worse than Volkswagens.
I was so curious about reliability, time will tell but it sounds promising. Hyundai is on the come up for sure
I have a 22 Veloster N that I got about a year ago used. It's very similar to this but smaller and less practical. They discontinued that, which is a shame, but I'm really glad this car exists, along with their other N cars. Assuming the Veloster N doesn't really disappoint me with reliability as it ages, there's a very solid chance I will be going back to N for my next car. Whether it's the Elantra N or the Veloster N, the reviews are pretty consistent: it's a very competent performance buy, especially for the money, but most of all it's just FUN. Personally, I don't care a single bit if it's down seconds per lap vs a Civic Type R. If it's cheaper AND more fun to drive, that's what I'm getting every time.
If you buy a Type R, you'll have to spend over $10,000 for a difference of 0.1 seconds.
It's a meaningless fight...
I love my 23’ Elantra N and you guys really helped convince me to get one, hopefully this video can do that for many other people so they can enjoy these cars too, they are fantastic cars, super fun to drive :)
I also purchased a 2023 thanks to these guys and... every other youtube car channel. I absolutely love driving it.
I bought my Veloster N because of their review also lol
Bought my 23 because of their review of it last year. Absolutely no regrets one of the best cars I have owned.
It’s in my top 2 for next car to buy 🤙 either this or a mk8 GTi. If I can get a solid price on this car I’m getting it.
good luck. it will fall apart and need a new engine within 2-3 years. Guaranteed. I've seen too many fail. Complete garbage cars.
I really appreciate how you guys take the price into consideration. For a lot of other channels they won't even mention it until the very end of their reviews when it's arguably the most important information.
Good comment. People be like "Well this Honda civic doesn't have the handling of a RS3"
In Europe we have the i30 N and it’s a phenomenal car. I think you’d love that car. Sad this is the last year of production here due to emissions regulations. Hyundai even organizes training for 2 days including food and stay for €550.
That's true. And the price is just right, even for the performance. A CTR is over 20k more here nowadays. Let's not talk about the Golf R with some options...
Yes, I love the hatch version of this over here in Germany. Wish it was available in US spec, but us Amis apparently sneer at hot hatches these days…
Europe ruining everything with stupid laws once again.
Here in Australia we are getting the 2024 face-lift I30 N Hatchback.
Ford used to do that in America for their ST cars.
I love my Elantra N so much only thing I look forward to getting behind the wheel. Retired so only drive for fun been all over the country. Have 63k miles on 22 plan put 100k by end 2025. I'm using it to explore our country one city at a time including best roads
You're a legend Mike.
There are some good mountain roads in the South.
Google for driving enthusiast roads on your journey.
My ideal retirement plan right here 👌
You are living the dream
You wont make it to 100k in that car. Im very surprised you even have 60k. They are complete garbage cars. You can expect MAJOR engine damage very soon. guaranteed. Not a matter of if, but when. Get rid of it now.
Let’s goooo! Been waiting on this man. Definitely going to be my next car soon.
Been waiting for this! Glad yall still love this, I love my 23’ great do it all platform.
Thank you for reviewing the 2024 model, it is the first model year we are getting of the Elantra N where I'm at.
Where are you?
I have an FL5 but I have to give Hyundai respect for making a competitive product even if I don't like the looks of it.
As an owner of a Veloster N, I approve of this video.
I got the first year 2019 VN, just hit 40k miles and I still love it
as an owner of 4 previous hyundais that were absolute garbage cars, i dont approve of this video
@@thomasengel1459aww you must be so poor you can only afford the cheap base models 😥 I’m sorry my guy, maybe get your money up?
@@KyleV00 Bro, i spend my money on much better cars. My N lines were cheapest pieces of junk ive ever bought.
@@KyleV00 and you think its ok for a car company to offer 1 engine that is guaranteed to fail vs another that isnt' based on price, you need to get your brains up .
It's insane how good you guys are at your job. Fantastic breakdown.
Love your evaluations! A pleasure!
Looks way better. Now it's something I would consider
Just took my EN and my group of chicago N car enthusiasts to the autobahn for track sprint. This thing just did amazingly. We love it and everyone there loved to see it including an ioniq 5N match a 911 time. Goin back june 9th for the south track
The fact that it matched a 911 is absolutely insane. Lol.
@@iZephiroth the 911 and I5N both did a 45 at the north track. The real shocker tho was a modified Volvo hybrid c30 doing 42 seconds just demolishing everyone 😭. The announcer said the times and was so confused a Volvo beat everything💀
I was there as well with my EN.
I did 46.3 sec (not full lap of Autobahn north) with fairly big mistake on turn 4.
great car.
I guess I will see you in June. ;-)
btw, he was very fast but it wasn't Volvo. lol
He is one of the fastest driver in Track Sprint for sure.
czcams.com/video/bDwReq0wZVE/video.htmlsi=5ayRAh71vVcZebpu
@@iZephiroth5N driver was still learning the car.
5N was very impressive.
We’ve got an Elantra N stick shift that’s sub 2 at Buttonwillow and sub 1:30 at Willow Springs (big Willow, not streets) putting it as the fastest fwd street class car there ever.
I presume it's modified?
@@MeltingRubberZ28yes. But Buttonwillow was with a piggy back and not an ecu tune. It’s progressed since then. 😂
At. COTA, we were only 6 seconds slower than TCR cars and that was with a very mild tune and all of the best time attack sessions black flagged. The post race data showed we were only 3 seconds off from the TCR cars. And we have stock aero
@@dubiousmike that's seriously impressive, but I guarantee if you would have had the Active Sound Design set to TCR you would have been on pace
do you have a link to onbaords? Would love to see those laps (and also upgrades that've been made)
They look so good in the new red color, seriously thinking of getting one.
That red color is OP - I wish they offered that before the facelift.
Hyundai is still a Hyundai
@@lifesAtrip513 So what? Do you prefer to pay a hefty extra charge plus dealer markups just for the brand name? If it's a decent and reliable car I don't care for the name.
@@Fastvoice the sad thing is you'll have people say yes to this question lol
@@lifesAtrip513ah yes Honda, Toyota, Volkswagen and SUBARU are such premium names.
Great exhaust and even better video like always!
So stoked to have one of these on the way, about another 4 months to wait. Manual too of course for the fun factor. Great review, has given me even more confidence in my decision.
Dont rub it in lol... Congrats
You have to wait to buy them, but will not have to wait for them to breakdown. They will breakdown almost immediately. Garbage cars. Don't get one dude. Absolute shit.
@@thomasengel1459 what makes u say that?
@@marcjones744 experience. have had 4 hyundais, all of them had major engine failure before 40k. good luck.
SG videos are the only YT videos I actually watch in full screen. Beautiful cinematography and shot composition 👌
Honestly I’m impressed that the changes in the facelift were enough to warrant getting its own video. I’ve had a ‘22 since Dec of ‘21, love it. Haven’t taken it to the track yet or done any modifications. These are absolutely amazing cars. Right now I’m actually looking into a GR86 or a BRZ because I really want a RWD sports car, but I’m torn because of how awesome the N is.
Depends what you want to do. Laptimes the elantra will put numbers down. If you want to slide it i say gr86/brz is the way to go.
Heavily considering buying one of these
(Former) "Brundle Fly" 👀... I have to admit that was accurate. An "all-rounder" that doesn't have a hatchback.
You can pick up passengers at the airport, then drive to the racetrack and give them a heart attack. It is my favorite non-hot hatch, and I was actually waiting for your down-to-earth review.
Thank you!
Bought a 23 EN in February. This channel among many others(Topher etc) helped me make my decision. You literally can't go wrong with this car it is an absolute blast to drive AND you can take it to Costco and have plenty of room for groceries.
Nice to see you guys Namyanging around
Fun fact this car is the exact same color as the Hyundai megaplant in Ulsan. They took the same paint they painted the factory exterior with and hit the cars with it too.
@@DivadNoodeldehm-lz2gm Didn't know that, that's pretty cool
Once my lease runs out in a few years and these things are still holding up well, I just might grab one. Hyundai is definitely onto something.
That bump over the bridge sounded so brutal!
Great review. I'm very excited to surprise everyone in D street autox. Like I did in 2020 with the Veloster N.
I’ve been waiting for this video for awhile for the new generation
I bought a Kona N due to me being a sucker for hatchbacks and I have no regrets. Doesn’t handle as well as the EN due to physics, but man it feels 90% as good and it’s almost hilarious what it can do for being a “suv” lol.
Rear facing infant seat fits well in the one I tested. Helps with the "will it baby" question.
Rear facing booster fits too. I daily my kids to school and track on the weekends
I love the track day music choice
Just sold my Elantra N, I did love that car!
Picking up my 2024 EN tomorrow in this color but with a dct. This video was perfectly timed to get me even more excited for it
How did u find performance blue?
@@yourxricexbowlhe searched....
dont do it. its' a complete garbage car. It wil break fast and hard.
@@thomasengel1459 shut up lol
Will I buy it? No. HOWEVER, as a car guy, I love it. I love having competition. I think it's amazing Honda has given us the CTR, Acura the Integra Type S, Toyota the GR Corolla, and Subaru's WRX. I think Hyundai has a long way to go to proving themselves, especially with the number of engine issues they have, and the terrible dealership network. But, it does give me hope, and I think it's great when there's choices.
Great review. Looking forward to seeing Ioniq 5N from you guys.
Incredible award winning review good sirs! 🥳
Great to see you guys enjoying the EN, this car is a blast day in and day out and that is something rare these days. DCT squad
Imagine not driving stick when able-bodied.
@CaptainFordo21 Eh, my main vehicle has had a manual transmission since I was 16 years old, but I owned a DCT VW R32 for a while and I loved that transmission. It’s a different kind of fun.
@@CaptainFordo21 I'd rather drive a 10 speed truck for work, then drive my DCT on my own time :3
But CDL classes did make me consider trading for the manual
I'm 2 years and 24K miles into my 2022 Elantra N DCT! It's NOT my daily, this is strictly a fun car driven in the Ohio valleys and on some autocross courses.
I'm blown away by this car for the money it costs. With the included 3 years of complementary maintenance, the fact that I'm 24K miles in and haven't even paid for maintenance yet is wild to me.
I abuse this car, I'd love to test the warranty process if it ever breaks. I hit rev limiter every time I drive it. This thing has been a tank so far!
I do hate the "Octane Learning" process as you guys mentioned in the video. It's easily the worst thing about the car and perhaps the reason the laptime was 1 second slower than last time. With octane learning complete, using my Dragy GPS I'm seeing 0-60(1ft) of 4.54s on an otherwise stock car which is fairly insane.
if you are at 24k, you've got about 20 k left on that engine before it completely falls apart on you. It's not matter of if, but when. complete garbage cars.
@@thomasengel1459 I hope it does! It’s paid for and I have that warranty for a reason. I bought this car to abuse guilt free and if it never blows up I’ll be sad! So far it’s been rock solid. We will see!
@@ItsPaulby you're dumb if you want your car to blow up. and hyundai honors no warranty, you will have to fight for it. good luck. but yes, it will blow up . because it is a piece of shit. and saying a car has been rock solid after only 24k is a ridiculous statement. My honda has been rock solid for 250k+. You'll never get to say that about a hyundai
@@ItsPaulby you want your car to blow up? Then you chose the right car. And hyundai wont honor that warranty. Good luck DmbFk
@@thomasengel1459what a trollboy 😅
Hyundai is doing a lot right. Between this and the Ioniq 5 N it seems like they genuinely want to make cars for enthusiasts and they want those enthusiasts to have real fun with their cars. Kudos, Hyundai and thank you, Mark and Jack, for yet another excellent review.
Have the 22 MT model and it’s been great.
Just a fun car to drive and i’ve owned Hyundais for 25 plus yrs and never had an issue with it. States have even a longer warranty.
It’s a big win for Hyundai and it’s time that their old reputation to change.
The N! An amazing beast. Wow
I should be getting mine by the end of this month. So excited!
Great video
it will fall apart on you by the end of summer. Dont ever buy a hyundai
@@thomasengel1459 That's where the 100k mile warranty comes in.
Great video as always, and I hope your assistant brings it to autocross. I still love my Elantra N after 30k miles and plan on driving it into the ground.
I recently bought the 24EN loving it! Great sedan
The new facelift is awesome no doubt. I love my 23, I don't care much about depreciation. I'll drive her till she grows old and tired. The Elantra N is a fun car. Sure it's a hyundai, but it's one hell of a hyundai 👍
Excellent video. I was considering this car but ended up with GR86. Enjoyed your videos on many cars deciding what to get
Thanks for appreciating the paint huffers
It’s so hard to acquire this car right now but I’ve waited a long time for this facelift and I’m on the waitlist for a Performance blue! Amazing review guys!!!!!
I called around there’s plenty available if you’re willing to travel
I wouldn't want Honda to cheapen the interior, ditch the wide body kit, ditch the brembos, etc, to match Hyundai's pricepoint. I absolutely love the Elantra N and had a blast owning one, but you really can see and feel everywhere they cut costs to get you the car at that price. The driving dynamics really are 95% as good as the Honda, though. The exhaust definitely adds to that. Hopefully Hyundai ditches the octane learning for the next gen
EN's Dynamic is better than Hondas at 100%. The FL5 likes to go off track, which feels like desperation with its rigid tuning. Could be that Honda's regular LSD can't keep up with Hyundai's e-LSD.
@@psewgobind whatever you gotta tell yourself 👍🏻
The Type R is realistically $15k more then the Hyundai or $50k. I don't wanna hear you sucked off the manager to get MSRP either don't believe you
That's the SI
@@FATmenDRIVEtrucks sucks to suck, i waited and got mine for msrp
Had a genesis coupe with a 3.8.
Got it used for cheap, and it was a weapon and never had any problems so i think this modern car could be super good.
I do like the improved front end. Im personally not a huge fan of that particular blue shade so id pick a different color. Its pretty appealing as a package. This will be on my list now.
The Type-R might not have the whimsy, but it’s definitely a sharper knife.
True but least you don't have get on your hands and knees beg for $5k over msrp(like that's a deal) 😂
@@FATmenDRIVEtrucksThat’s cheap l lol here in Canada these cars MSRP for 52 grand and dealers are asking 75,000 grand. Same with the Si 35,900 but dealers are asking 43,000. Honda dealers here are gansters plain and simple.
@@FATmenDRIVEtrucks MSRP is out there, but obviously going to depend where you live. def seen MSRP in Ohio. not really in MI where i'm at. but i already have an fk8 and i didn't have to overpay for it.
Strongly considering this as a replacement to my tuned civic. Much better starting point and I don’t wanna mess with my next car too much
bro, this hyundai will last about 20,000 miles, your honda will last forever. Dont by garbage Hyundai. they are the shittiest cars on the markest
Please no
Traded in my 2017 FK8 with full HKS bolt-on and HKS power editor, whiteline springs + some Mugen parts, Invidia exhaust and Enkei wheels for the 24 EN (DCT) in performance blue.
EN is more fun and better for daily driving. FL5 is very clean too, but it sounds like a vacuum cleaner with the stock exhaust and is too expensive for what it is.
@@rb2805 sorry to hear this bro
@@thomasengel1459 honda isnt even a hyundai's competitor anymore. hyundai is currently worlds 2nd largest automaker in the world. pls update your brain
Another great video. I'm getting one. Triple
I am absolutely in love with my 22' N. I'm at about 45k miles so far. I haven't tracked it because I need it as a daily. I swapped the summer tires for some Conti all-seasons which did change the handling a bit, but still very good. Otherwise, I've left it stock and reliable. I love the Jekyl and Hyde personality of this car. Loud and racy then economy car all at the press of a button. Avg MPG is about 28-29 with a few high tanks at 32-34 MPG. Great car, nothing else like it right now.
I want to love this thing, but when you expect this will start burning a quart of oil per 1k miles by the 50k mile mark and the dealer will deny the warranty claim, it takes the luster off
Excellent point- I would love to hear how it goes in the long term- compared to Honda Toyota. I see used Kia/hyundai with sludge- or excessive oil use- as low as 40 k miles. I sold many at auction where these makes fail at post sale inspection for similar engine issues
Sad they discontinued the Kona N.
Amazing car, we need more like this in the road!!
Wow had just looked these up yesterday how convenient
"Perfectly handsome looking"... idk I wish it wasn't so angular and over styled. Reminds me of the previous gen Civic Type R or Camry TRD that both just try too hard for what they are. I appreciate a more affordable sedan (still nearly $40k out the door after tax / fees) with some pep being available, but as an adult would want it to look less busy boy racer. I would 100% need to wrap the red accent line and light blue is not a good car color (M2 either).
Sounds like a Subaru would be perfect for you 😂
Considering buying one but concerned on its reliability.
It has America's best warranty, 10yr 100k miles
@@Lucoyaa but burning a quart of oil every thousand miles can be considered “normal”
Hyundai does build junk
Dont listen to this idiots. Hyundai has been more reliable than honda lately lol. But yeah still toyota is more reliable.
@@KhanJoltrane No oil burning on my EN, but I did have a Scion FRS with a Subaru engine that burnt a quart per 1000 from brand new. The Ford Ecoboost 1.6L and this Hyundai 2.0 have both never burned a drop. By the way, Toyota printed a Subaru bulletin and said 1000 miles\quart was acceptable after my oil consumption test and sent me away.
Trouble is personally I really like analog RWD! I chose an FA24 BRZ and fitted a HARROP supercharger. 300 rwhp certainly winds the superlative platform up to a fun factor of 11. Makes for one very special yet still affordable car :)
Definitely one of those cars that you could overlook the anesthetics for the way it drives.
Curious the long term value. If it will have any major issues. But at the moment seems like a great car. Hope they keep making cars like this.
Honestly, for me, it wouldn’t matter. If I can get one I’m keeping it forever unless someone totals it. I haven’t felt this excited about a car since I bought my Fiesta ST in 2016 and I still have it. Best car I very had probably until the EN. Mainly buying it because the DCT. Want an automatic for my wife. It’ll also be more practical once we need to put a car seat in it and my 13 y/o daughter who’s almost 6 feet tall. I’ll still keep the FiST since it’s paid off 😎
@georgevigil7001 I traded to an EN from a full bolt on FIST. Be aware, the EN is two car sizes bigger. It's a chonky lady. Still miss the FIST, but EN had so much more refinement in every category
there is no such thing as long term value on hyundai. Will last about 40,000 miles tops.
@@AnonAnon-qi4ts congrats on the car bro! Yeah I went and saw one in person and it’s like two FiST’s in length. Haha But we need that extra legroom in the back seat for my daughter and a car seat. I’m also looking forward to being able to set the dampers on comfort since my coils aren’t very comfortable on bad roads.
Make more and gettem in the damn dealerships! Can’t buy what doesn’t physically exist.
The dealerships that get them only allocate about two per month and they are sold out even before it hits the showroom floor.
@@mrk2ovtec yeah, not enough stock
If you can find a larger, high volume dealer in a metro area they definitely get way more allocations. If you're willing to travel a bit you can find one.
It's frustrating dealing with the guys who aren't used to selling enthusiast cars and treat the N products like they're some kind of low production exotics but there are dealers out there who move a lot of these.
Bought my FL5 at MSRP and while I genuinely prefer it, this is a cool car and a great value.
I'm sure it's fun but my 22 wrx only has $15k left before it's paid off.
It's been reliable and fun. I love dropping the clutch off the line into a corner.
I've had the fast bikes r6/r1 and 4x4 trucks Yada Yada. But what's cool to me now is AWD
My new 2024 Sedan N (as it’s named in Australia) was delivered to me mid February. It’s currently at the dealership having the DCT replaced under warranty. The car had only 1600kms on it when the hydraulic valve body accumulator in the DCT failed and pushed hydraulic fluid out of the housing early this month. It’s a shame. I’m looking forward to getting it back in a few days. Apart from that it’s a brilliant car. Hopefully nothing else serious fails.
Dude that sux. How did you know there was an issue? I just hit 1700km, no issues yet!
So the model is just "Sedan" trim level "N" there?
@@scotchbingeington6761 that's correct. We have the i30N hatch, the i30 Sedan N. We even got the i30 fastback N when it was around.
@@scotchbingeington6761 Yep correct. The i30 Sedan N premium.
Hopefully they get it sorted out. I got a minor transmission leak at 60k (kilometre) in my 6MT EN and now rocking a new transmission. I think my seals couldn't handle Canadian extremes. Took delivery in middle of winter and drove it extensively through the worst storms (everyone got stuck), but lucky me, tow truck stopped to pull out my Elantra N (must have been racing blue that got his attention) and quickly went home afterwards cause it was insane even for toe truck.
I see a lot more EN on track than last year.
More ppl are recognizing this car now.
Man of class I see.
Dune part 2 soundtrack 🤙
@3:29 Jack nailed the pronunciation of Hyundai on this video. Kudos.
owns mine EN for a little over a year now, like all fun cars, you get used to it and get bored, but the difference between this vs any sports car is I still daily it to the grocery stores, and whenever I feel like it I still can slam it into a corner harder than my brz, and make exhaust crack those noises, I don't see me selling it until my 10 year 100,000 miles warranty due
Bought a kona n 2 weeks ago because of that video😆
Kona N is the best overall N car! SO much fun, and so practical depending on your needs.
One of the best bang for your buck cars, one of the best do-it-all affordable performance cars. It's insane how capable and competent this car is. I love mine, and would encourage anyone who's shopping those cars that Mark and Jack mentioned to try this out. You won't regret it. And you'll be happier with the extra bucks in your pocket. Even if I sell this car down the road, I will buy another one again. That's how good it is. One of those "more than the sum of its parts" cars
I have my Kona N and I love it so far. Yes it’s loud and “uncomfortable” but realistically it’s not that bad and there is something special about having a fun car to daily and carry your body around in.
*Hears Robin Williams yelling “Gooooood morning Viet Nam!”, realizes it’s Monday, hits Savagegeese for this week’s new review*
7:56 Do you see that Subaru and Toyota? Those are eccentric bolts, that actually allow you to adjust the camber and toe settings. They should be on every car, but ESPECIALLY ones that are supposed to be for driving enthusiasts.
Totally! My 370Z lacked geo adjustability... but my MX5 (bought for half the price) has full alignment capability out of the box. And when I finally got a precision track alignment it totally transformed the car's turn-in and handling.
The automatic will accelerate faster. And there are reasons why you'd spend more on the GR Corolla: it has all-wheel drive, and it'll be infinitely more reliable. The reality is that Hyundai and Kia aren't even close to Honda or Toyota. That said, this car is still quite appealing.
For the record, my Veloster N was the first iteration of this in North America. I still love my VN 6MT. The car has been completely flawless in the four years I have owned her. The P Zeros don't last very long... :)
under 40k all good and well, but I heard on CZcams Hyundai 4-cylinder engines aren't reliable. Any thoughts on that? 'Cause if that's the case, I'd rather pay more and get a reliable thing.
The N car engines are vastly different than other, especially older 4 cyl engines from Hyundai. These have been proven to be largely reliable. Either way, 10 year / 100k warranty on the engine and components.
Check Veloster N reviews. That car is old now and the engines are nearly identical save the bigger turbo. Compared to a K20 which are known to burn a little oil and get a 2nd gear crunchy syncro since they came out nearly 25 years ago. Legacy problems Honda never fixed. The Hyundai is solid and they have a pretty sturdy 6 speed in-house manual that doesnt have shit syncros.
I've had one for 1.5 years. Its not great on fuel and doesn't ride that great (but passable). They say that it rides good here but then in 2 minutes hit the bump-stops, which happens way more often in this car than others. But this thing drives so well and sounds so good. I'm glad they changed the front. I would easily recommend getting this over a type R.
how bad is it on gas? my 2019 elantra gets 32mpg in the city and about 40 on trips which i think is pretty good, and your 300ish HP would presumably consume a bit more fuel. I know the bmw 330i and mercedes c class get about 25mpg at ~250hp and more weight
🍻 to hopefully more people buying these and keeping the business case alive because they are sweet cars and exactly what we neee!
As expected, I’m upset that I still like these cars. Great content 🥇
Drive it like you stole it? From what I have experienced, stealing one is easier than driving one.
Not a fan on how Elantras look.
Great video as always! Got to test drive one the other day and it is definitely a very fun vehicle. Curious as to what you would do if you compared buying the EN vs a used FK8 type r? They’re at similar price points now… 🤔 what would be more worthwhile in that scenario?
Glad I have my 2022 as I sincerely think it's cooler looking but happy others are stoked that they watered it down for more to appreciate it.
That's what every current EN owner says. It's being biased TBH. 99% of non EN owners prefer the new look. Simple as that
@@porfiriato84Yep, exactly lol. The only places I see people prefer the older design are EN Facebook groups and the EN subreddit. Everywhere else online and irl, people prefer the face lift
And that's why they added it for y'all 👍🏽@@Symphoniics
I had a terrible experience with my 2022 Veloster N 6MT . (bad engine from new and hyundai wouldnt stand by their product) while the car was rather fun the build quality and solidity isn't there for these cars imo. also couldn't stand the dumb pops and bang exhaust nonsense.
for the money, and sadly most ppl are gonna buy this in a automatic, let's be honest, id much rather have a TRD camry.
You can literally turn off the pops and bangs by pushing a button... TRD Camry is a nice car, but not on the same level of these as far as track performance, being fun to drive, or aftermarket capabilities.
@apexcobra.official id agree, if you got an N car in an automatic. Hyundai/Kia/Genesis's build quality is STILL not there, and yes, I know you can turn it off lmao, I literally owned the car, but it still alternated the engine map in the loudest exhaust mode to give you more power and you still had to live with pops and bangs and sounding like a clown. if I'm paying for all X amount of horsepower, I want to use X amount of horsepower.
and the TRD camry (automatic Vs automatic transmission here) can be fine on track much like this car, especially with some good tires, and a larger more reliable engine and definitely sounds better with the TRD exhaust than the N.
but again, let's be honest here. nobody is gonna drive either car 10/10th's around a track. they're just gonna drive like an idiot on the streets because nealy all ppl interested, especially in the elantra N are just armchair F-Boi racers anyway.
@kcm732 I've never driven a Veloster, do they not have N Custom mode? I can have all of the engine settings in my KN set to the highest performance, but disable pops and bangs by switching the exhaust mode from sport+ to sport. No difference in power at all.
TRD Camrys can sound good with exhaust... But they aren't nearly as fast as the N cars(EN or KN at least, VNs are slower with the baby turbo). Not the same experience at all. The trans in the Camry is also straight 💩 compared to the N DCT. Can't speak for the manual models. Wouldn't get one when the best DCT on the market short of a PDK is available.
you had a bad experience because its a hyundai. should be expected.