Why a used, DEPRECIATED Rivian makes way more sense to BUY than a new Cybertruck (but I'm an idiot)

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  • @HooviesGarage
    @HooviesGarage  Před 4 měsíci +142

    Thanks Eddy's Chrevrolet Cadillac for loaning me the Rivian they have for sale! Check out their awesome inventory here: www.eddyschevroletcadillac.com

    • @LogitechXibanga
      @LogitechXibanga Před 4 měsíci +14

      BOOOring, your videos used to be fun to watch now they just started to be booring so much talk, keep that to your good morning utube channel, i've seen all your videos since you bought the purple rolls royce but latly just cant watch it anymore theres no more fun its either super cars, brand new cars or just talk over and over ranting about stuff that nobody cares, for that i just need to go to work everyday dont need youtube, just buy cheap cars and do something with them like you used to do, flip them sort it and sell it race them road trip them do somethign entertaining instead of talking about cybertrucks and electric trucks and other nonses like it was a Oprah Winfrey show

    • @ModelA
      @ModelA Před 4 měsíci +6

      Dave Ramsey called. He said to not buy it.

    • @LogitechXibanga
      @LogitechXibanga Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@ModelA i wouldnt buy it either, theres better pick up trucks out there that use diesel that is much better

    • @toyota420xp
      @toyota420xp Před 4 měsíci

      Yeah you are dumbest CZcamsr in all the internet because you because you're talking about cyber truck and it's the worst vehicle I've ever seen

    • @dcogburn1986
      @dcogburn1986 Před 4 měsíci +1

      For 17k after taxes I'd throw a generator for 5k to 7k

  • @jeremypauken8429
    @jeremypauken8429 Před 4 měsíci +1969

    Nice to see Hoovie getting back to what his channel is know for. Truck towing videos.

  • @MIHIFISI1
    @MIHIFISI1 Před 4 měsíci +779

    The Rivian headlights always reminds me of the Dyson fans.

    • @volvo09
      @volvo09 Před 4 měsíci +27

      And the eyes on a super Mario Bros mushroom.

    • @mylesgray3470
      @mylesgray3470 Před 4 měsíci +11

      I never made that connection, but now they will also remind me of that, every time I see one, haha!

    • @exlimey1417
      @exlimey1417 Před 4 měsíci

      Looks like a double Edsel two-holer.

    • @Ej6daniel
      @Ej6daniel Před 4 měsíci +4

      It does look like a super mushroom! ​@@volvo09

    • @deanj846
      @deanj846 Před 4 měsíci +6

      Yup,overpriced and bound to fail

  • @2pintsofcremedementh
    @2pintsofcremedementh Před 4 měsíci +166

    The trouble with comparing new vs used is that as soon as you acknowledge that no amount of new car feels could ever justify the staggering financial cost, you'll end up following that logic all the way to the realisation that true motoring nirvana can only be achieved when you're in a 20+ year old car you picked up at the absolute bottom of its depreciation curve

    • @sofloflow
      @sofloflow Před 4 měsíci +9

      Love my 02 Jeep Wrangler

    • @stevest1300
      @stevest1300 Před 4 měsíci +13

      2000 Excursion, 2002 Suzuki Grand Vitara, 1992 restored LeBaron convertible. Easy to work, cheap and abundant parts, money in my jeans for other fun. I once had a guy with a brand new Silverado look down his nose at my dirty, off road modded Suzi. I simply said "Hey, nice truck....payments".

    • @MrDuncl
      @MrDuncl Před 4 měsíci +3

      Until it breaks. However, after looking at new cars I ended up replacing my ten year old car (which was turning into a Hooptie) for a five year old one which I should be able to keep a guarantee on for the next five years.

    •  Před 4 měsíci +1

      that the stroy of 1st gen NSX, celicas, old supras

    • @993mike
      @993mike Před 4 měsíci +4

      You are correct! While I do enjoy my 2018 GT3 weekend toy, the car I love for entirely different reasons is my 2008 Lexus GX470 with 165K miles. It’s an absolute hero that has never let me down, was beautifully engineered and built, and the only replacement items have been a new water pump and radiator (a rock punched a small hole in it), and finally after 15 years the rear air bag suspension finally began to leak, which I did a coil spring conversion & new shocks all around myself. The only liability is not great fuel economy, but that’s part of the game on real SUV’s. My cost of ownership is ridiculously low, and I recently turned down an offer of $18K for it since in great condition. My rule with anybody I know buying an EV is to only lease them, since EV’s as a category have the absolute worst resale of all cars.

  • @jeffretey
    @jeffretey Před 4 měsíci +26

    Standing in front of your Ferrari 599 MT, Countach, Z8, Maybach, etc and saying you have champagne tastes and a beer budget, Priceless! 😂😂

  • @derekheld1427
    @derekheld1427 Před 4 měsíci +350

    Hoovie’s towing channel in full swing!

    • @user-pz4bl3qm5o
      @user-pz4bl3qm5o Před 4 měsíci +5

      better than his swinging channel full of tow😇

    • @user-ht1xu4gv2u
      @user-ht1xu4gv2u Před 4 měsíci

      Time for a full time purchase of flatbed and drivet

    • @Zzus321
      @Zzus321 Před 4 měsíci

      He's a gluten for punishment

    • @Notfiveo0
      @Notfiveo0 Před 4 měsíci

      Who wants Hoovie to stand next to that old car dressed in period or maybe retro mod clothing?

    • @jordanmercier3616
      @jordanmercier3616 Před 4 měsíci

      Alex will be happy

  • @XanderDDS
    @XanderDDS Před 4 měsíci +119

    not since Ace Ventura emerged from the back-side of a rhinoceros has a character made an entrance so memorable.

    • @Steve-gs1jz
      @Steve-gs1jz Před 4 měsíci +5

      For sure... Hoovie is the Jim Carey of automotive CZcams.

    • @adamfrbs9259
      @adamfrbs9259 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Damn, can't believe that's technically a "Classic Reference" now. Thanks, good laugh.

    • @shitloveaduck
      @shitloveaduck Před 4 měsíci +1

      😂😂😂 too d*mn funny!!! 😂

    • @eddiefalcon8316
      @eddiefalcon8316 Před 4 měsíci +2

      He’s had a few good ones over the years I love the Grey Poupon, and the sliding Previa😀

    • @BentonHart
      @BentonHart Před 4 měsíci +3

      Sure is hot in these rhinos.

  • @grandcosmo
    @grandcosmo Před 4 měsíci +121

    Hoovie's "beer budget" is only allowing him to buy 2 Cybertrucks.

    • @LigerSupremacy
      @LigerSupremacy Před 4 měsíci +7

      For only $220k-$300k depending on final specs.

    • @jarredeckman1976
      @jarredeckman1976 Před 4 měsíci +14

      yeah, my beer budget allows me to keep my 22 year old truck and buy beer.

    • @jaapaap123
      @jaapaap123 Před 4 měsíci +7

      my beer budget doesn't even allow me to buy enough beer 😢

    • @JaySilver4179
      @JaySilver4179 Před 4 měsíci +1

      CZcams revenue estimate $200,000+ a month without all other income sources which there are multiple. How much beer is that?

    • @scottlauren3145
      @scottlauren3145 Před 4 měsíci +2

      ​@@JaySilver4179I dont even think Mr Beast makes close to 200 grand per month from CZcams. What exactly are you talking about?

  • @TheNewSchmoo
    @TheNewSchmoo Před 4 měsíci +12

    A whole new phase of Hoovie ahead , buying his hoopties brand new.

  • @SkippyPB.
    @SkippyPB. Před 4 měsíci +140

    I can picture Hoovie being the next “but wait, there’s more” guy in infomercials.

    • @jdore8
      @jdore8 Před 4 měsíci +1

      The Wizard is that guy in his videos. Costs a bit more than four easy payments of $19.99 though when he says it.

    • @PixelmechanicYYZ
      @PixelmechanicYYZ Před 4 měsíci +4

      More like Shamwow 😂

    • @SkippyPB.
      @SkippyPB. Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@jdore8haha good one

    • @SkippyPB.
      @SkippyPB. Před 4 měsíci

      @@PixelmechanicYYZ 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @mixmasterpax
      @mixmasterpax Před 4 měsíci +2

      100% Used Car Salesman 😅

  • @crushbaseball4270
    @crushbaseball4270 Před 4 měsíci +379

    It would be funny to see wizard’s reaction when you drive the Cybertruck into his shop 😁

    • @JSFGuy
      @JSFGuy Před 4 měsíci +22

      True that, wizard will have to politely turn it away.

    • @lincolnmarklt
      @lincolnmarklt Před 4 měsíci +11

      Selling hoovie Parts for twice what he paid for with a smile😂

    • @davisdesigns1153
      @davisdesigns1153 Před 4 měsíci +2

      😲

    • @chassegallerie2910
      @chassegallerie2910 Před 4 měsíci +11

      Normally, when something like this happens, he and Hoovie just look at the vehicle all over, seeing if there are some future issues or present ones and give an overall appreciation of the vehicle. Even if Wizard said that the day there would only be EVs left, he'd take his pension.

    • @300DBenz
      @300DBenz Před 4 měsíci +4

      Wizard already has a Stainless Steel vehicle in his shop😅

  • @slimydick23
    @slimydick23 Před 4 měsíci +34

    skip to 8:00 if you want to hear about the Rivian. Start from the beginning if you want to hear about getting on a wait list.

  • @brucerichards9102
    @brucerichards9102 Před 4 měsíci +4

    Always fun and informative. Keep up the good work.

  • @elc7795
    @elc7795 Před 4 měsíci +138

    Would like to see the 1 million mile dodge take on the Tesla in a long distance tow-off

    • @elitesniper923
      @elitesniper923 Před 4 měsíci +31

      We all know emhow that will end. That Cummins will wind up towing the tesla home after it breaks or runs out of juice.

    • @wemakecookie
      @wemakecookie Před 4 měsíci +17

      The dodge will win. Long-distance towing is EVs weakest point. It will be solved because batteries and charging are constantly improving. Probably won't get close enough to gas for another 5 years. But if you don't tow long-distance much, EV trucks are awesome cause they're incredibly efficient so you save tons on gas and maintenance.

    • @driverguy4074
      @driverguy4074 Před 4 měsíci +7

      My money is on the Dodge.

    • @frankcastle2045
      @frankcastle2045 Před 4 měsíci +2

      A brand new truck VS a truck witj 1 million miles seems fair 🙄

    • @driverguy4074
      @driverguy4074 Před 4 měsíci +6

      @@frankcastle2045 that brand new EV Truck can't pull anything anywhere

  • @andyroid5028
    @andyroid5028 Před 4 měsíci +27

    *_Looks like a stainless steel Pontiac Aztek. LOL_*

    • @motownpontiac
      @motownpontiac Před 4 měsíci +3

      At least the front end of the Aztek has SOME styling. The interior is arguably more comfortable as well. ha ha

  • @JohnMurrayOP
    @JohnMurrayOP Před 4 měsíci +11

    The audio quality was better when driving over fifty than when recording in the hangar. This is one feature for people who do business from their cars hands-free. I drive a 2006 Ridgeline, and the RIvian has better styling because it has taken what I love about the original Ridgeline and made it better. I would like to know if I would get 300,000 miles on the Rivian like I nearly have on my Ridgeline with routine maintenance. Another thing Tyler omitted is that Rivian is also the builder of the Amazon electric vans. If I remember correctly, the drive train is shared with these, thus making Rivian engineering more commonplace in the future.

  • @jkk244
    @jkk244 Před 4 měsíci +16

    A little door and a special compartment for storing golf clubs appeared almost 90 years ago on the 1935 Auburn Speedster. So, not exactly a new idea but it’s cool that Rivian revived it.

    • @eaauto6182
      @eaauto6182 Před 4 měsíci

      The McLaren F1 had something like that too

    • @hartoz
      @hartoz Před 3 měsíci

      You can buy a complete camp kitchen that slides out from that compartment.

  • @fantomtuba
    @fantomtuba Před 4 měsíci +7

    Countdown to Christmass starting in January? This is the earliest Holiday 2024 themed ad I've ever seen. 356 days to go!!

  • @joealex65
    @joealex65 Před 4 měsíci +51

    Can't wait for Tyler to do what he is know for, towing tests! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @jasonfabrick9308
    @jasonfabrick9308 Před 4 měsíci +7

    I forgot you had the classic you had in the add. It was a pleasant surprise. I have heard that some companies that want an EV fleet are having trouble getting the vehicles because they are not getting made fast enough.I have seen some of the Rivian's around, the inside is nicer than I expected.

  • @84gssteve
    @84gssteve Před 4 měsíci +3

    My boss got an early Rivian almost 2 years ago now.
    It's ridiculous how quick something that big can get moving, and you are right that its crazy (and possibly dangerous) how everyone might have that much mass moving that quickly so easily. Something to consider.......his was a NIGHTMARE to get fixed after a small hit to a parking lot bollard. The problem was he hit it at the charging port which disabled the truck and damaged the charging port to the point it needed to have the whole wiring harness replaced and it had to be trucked back and forth from the Rivian shop to the body shop, twice. It took forever and cost a lot, for what would be a minor repair to a normal car.

  • @jessestevenson8041
    @jessestevenson8041 Před 4 měsíci +23

    I like the Rivian far more than the Cybertruck. I feel like it’s more adoptable for people who currently own ICE trucks, unlike the Cybertruck that is far too cartoony for the average truck buyer.

    • @auzmo
      @auzmo Před 4 měsíci +6

      Yeah but how can you virtue signal and status symbol without being noticed?

    • @yhelloh
      @yhelloh Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@auzmo truck nuts haha

    • @DaniTheNachoPirate
      @DaniTheNachoPirate Před 3 měsíci

      It's too cartoony for the average cartoon character

  • @peiiider
    @peiiider Před 4 měsíci +41

    The countdown to christmas is here ! Nice job with the updated ads Hoovie :D

    • @Zardif
      @Zardif Před 4 měsíci +6

      356 days!

  • @SupercarRanch
    @SupercarRanch Před 4 měsíci +2

    Hoovie's the kind of guy to run a pre-holiday ad integration in January. Gettin' em early!

  • @satrnjb9913
    @satrnjb9913 Před 4 měsíci

    This is possibly my favorite Towing channel 🎉 keep up the good work

  • @paulie-Gualtieri.
    @paulie-Gualtieri. Před 4 měsíci +20

    Haven't you learnt anything from the Ford Lightning pick up.

  • @94regnar
    @94regnar Před 4 měsíci +152

    Personally, next to the Pontiac Aztek, in the last twenty years the cyber truck ranks up there as one of the worst automotive styling decisions.

    • @ulverop
      @ulverop Před 4 měsíci +12

      I find the Aztek to be beautiful compared to the Cyber Truck.
      Even the SsangYong Rodius is a supermodel compared to the Cyber Truck...

    • @muskokamike127
      @muskokamike127 Před 4 měsíci +6

      @@ulverop yeah, and there's guys who think Lizzo is hot....

    • @muskokamike127
      @muskokamike127 Před 4 měsíci +12

      Musk's 4 yr old drew it and Musk promised to turn it into an actual vehicle and here we are.

    • @ulverop
      @ulverop Před 4 měsíci +3

      @@muskokamike127 Yes. All of them have ordered a Cyber Truck...

    • @uscars9207
      @uscars9207 Před 4 měsíci

      Aztek was only ahead of its time...but today we have more cars like it, especially in Europe. Personally I think the Aztek is good and practical...they will be collectible one day, remember my words, not many of them sold or survived in a good condition.

  • @user-fl2cu1il6b
    @user-fl2cu1il6b Před 4 měsíci +1

    I can't wait to see your cyber truck videos. I'm not a pickup truck guy but they are just so cool.

  • @CasaKeepers
    @CasaKeepers Před 3 měsíci

    Finally. Hoovie is back to just entertaining us with car stuff. Keep it up!

  • @TylerPotter
    @TylerPotter Před 4 měsíci +28

    I'm so ready for the TRX vs. Cyber Truck towing and jumping comparison videos!

    • @wolfgangpreier9160
      @wolfgangpreier9160 Před 4 měsíci +3

      A fully specced and tuned upped Hummer is better suited for such shenanigans.

    • @Fay7666
      @Fay7666 Před 4 měsíci +3

      ​@@wolfgangpreier9160Let's hope GM gives him a loaner car. Not like they can afford to pass on the #1 channel for towing reviews on YT.

  • @erikmeltzer-rt7rh
    @erikmeltzer-rt7rh Před 4 měsíci +5

    It’s been a while since I couldn’t be bothered to watch a Hoovie video to the end.

  • @goldysgarage189
    @goldysgarage189 Před 4 měsíci +45

    The original base model price of the Cybertruck was 39k NOT 50K as Hoovie mentioned.

    • @dennisfahey2379
      @dennisfahey2379 Před 4 měsíci +2

      I think they will get there when Mexico comes on line. My sense is the price increase is to limit demand because they lack capacity and it cost more to make due to Gigapress / exoskeleton issues. When they tune up production the price will normalize. This is what was seen with the $40K price drop on the X. The reality is the Y is in huge demand. Tesla made 600K more vehicles last year (total of 1.8M) than the prior year and that was not with Shanghai, Berlin, Fremont and Texas all at full tilt.

    • @2011blueman
      @2011blueman Před 4 měsíci +7

      @@dennisfahey2379 If you look at the history of Tesla pricing there is zero chance of that. Tesla always announces a low MSRP, and then never ever sells a vehicle at that price point.

    • @Stripestore
      @Stripestore Před 4 měsíci +1

      Giving benefit of the doubt I took it that he meant the base price of the AWD model that’s still being offered at $99k and what he originally ordered. No sense in comparing base price to MSRP when the RWD trim doesn’t exist (and may never exist as long as people are still lining up for the AWD models- we saw what happened with the Model Y)

    • @Skullspliter
      @Skullspliter Před 4 měsíci +1

      Tesla did deliver a Model 3 for the advertised pre-production price of $35k. The current Model 3 is drastically better and starts at $39k. The new 1 also qualifies for a $7500 tax credit (making it cheaper than $35k). The Model 3 price has dropped multiple times in the past 2 years, while improvements to the vehicle have been added. Find another vehicle manufacturer that drastically improves a vehicle while decreasing the price, I'll wait.

    • @2011blueman
      @2011blueman Před 4 měsíci

      @@Skullspliter Tesla uses dynamic pricing, they dramatically increased prices during covid and only during the last year did they drop them. As for improving, LMAO, no. Tesla makes cars with poor build quality and low quality materials for the price, but they have by far the best charging system/network away from home and Musk was really good at hype until recently when people have started to catch on. Also, the $35K model 3 was only available for a few weeks in 2019 before being removed from the online ordering form and the current model 3 is not "drastically better".

  • @christrombley3898
    @christrombley3898 Před 4 měsíci

    Good timing. I just bought a used R1T this last Saturday. It’s so good!

  • @biggiefitz6275
    @biggiefitz6275 Před 4 měsíci +14

    At least the Rivian looks like a truck. The other thing looks like an engineer of the Zumwalt class destroyers went on a week long bender and sketched something.
    The intro was pure gold! lol

    • @wolfgangpreier9160
      @wolfgangpreier9160 Před 4 měsíci

      The Rivian looks like a fancy schmancy off road glamper. Just like the Ford F150. They are not trucks. They are Las Vegas show cars. The CT is a truck. Beat it!

    • @nopota7290
      @nopota7290 Před 4 měsíci +4

      @@wolfgangpreier9160 The cybertruck is perfect for hipster younglings who will at most use their "truck" to shop groceries. It looks like crap

    • @boneman1982
      @boneman1982 Před 4 měsíci +2

      ​@@wolfgangpreier9160🙄 the Rivian is a beast off road and does truck stuff just fine.

    • @wolfgangpreier9160
      @wolfgangpreier9160 Před 4 měsíci

      @@boneman1982 A truck is not beautiful and shiny.
      Its ugly and dirty and used for work.
      Not for leisure and glamping.

    • @boneman1982
      @boneman1982 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@wolfgangpreier9160 I mean, yeah I have a truck so I can haul stuff around, my Rivian has towed a trailer hundreds of miles, hauled plenty of drywall, and had multiple pallets of tile in it

  • @seanlinne8383
    @seanlinne8383 Před 4 měsíci +3

    That cyber truck is a stupid, goofy looking unit. Perfect for this channel!

  • @jacobpeterson628
    @jacobpeterson628 Před 4 měsíci

    I see what you're doing bro and I ain't mad at ya. Merry Christmas 😉😆

  • @jmillerdesign
    @jmillerdesign Před 4 měsíci +1

    Beer budget lol... says the guy who bought TWO Cybertrucks :D Love the channel Tyler!

  • @jamesjones4607
    @jamesjones4607 Před 4 měsíci +54

    Tyler you should get one of the Edison Motors conversions done on a truck/suv, you would then have a diesel electric truck with nearly unlimited range

    • @mdbourne
      @mdbourne Před 4 měsíci +7

      Totally agree! Way more interested in that, than the cyber truck.

    • @saleenmav
      @saleenmav Před 4 měsíci

      Oh, how precious, you’re one of the suckers who have fallen for all the stories and fakery those hacks have perpetuated.

    • @coleeto2
      @coleeto2 Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@mdbourne here’s hoping Edison makes it plug in, so you can do short commutes on just battery, and then get the efficiency boost from the range extender on the highway

    • @Heidelaffe
      @Heidelaffe Před 4 měsíci

      A large hybrid system seems more like the worst of both worlds most of the time. You usually end up with two weak engines, which only combined make decent power, while massively increasing complexity (look up repair costs) and price. It doesn’t make a lot of sense, just accept that an EV can’t do it all (endless long distance driving and towing) and embrace the future.

    • @GamingWithURO
      @GamingWithURO Před 3 měsíci +1

      ​​@@Heidelaffe The Edison set up uses a small cat diesel generator to produce electricity that charges a batteries and then the truck runs a powerful electric e- axle to drive it.. The diesel does not move the car at all. It's sole purpose is to produce electricity. The batteries are able to be plugged in and charged as well.

  • @bandagraph
    @bandagraph Před 4 měsíci +12

    As a (bought at the bottom) stock holder thanks for the positive Rivian review. These trucks are awesome and i can't wait for them to come out with their model y competitor.

    • @trahar6257
      @trahar6257 Před 4 měsíci +1

      It can go lower

    • @fit_pharmd4830
      @fit_pharmd4830 Před 4 měsíci +1

      If I may, how much did you end up making getting in at its beginnings? Just a ballpark really?

    • @Stripestore
      @Stripestore Před 4 měsíci

      ⁠​⁠@@fit_pharmd4830its beginnings were $78/share…I think “bottom” in this case means when it was around $12

    • @sawyermartin4434
      @sawyermartin4434 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@fit_pharmd4830He said he's a stockholder, not that he sold the stocks. As in, he hasn't made anything. Just unrealized gains at this time.

  • @thatoneotherotherguy
    @thatoneotherotherguy Před 4 měsíci +11

    Honestly right now I think a low spec R1T or Lightning makes the most sense right now. You can be out the door at $50k with a Lightning. $70k or so on an R1T. Both qualifying for the $7,500 tax credit, which is now a point of sale applied discount that doesn’t depend on your tax obligation.

    • @BA-gn3qb
      @BA-gn3qb Před 4 měsíci +3

      Obviously, you didn't watch Hoovie's videos on how terrible his Lightning was.
      And it completely died right after he traded it in.

    • @thatoneotherotherguy
      @thatoneotherotherguy Před 4 měsíci

      @@BA-gn3qb one anecdote does not a statistic make. Plenty of happy Lightning owners out there. I'd rather gamble on the reliability of an electric F-150 than a gasoline one. Eight year warranty on the battery, if I felt like the truck wasn't gonna last, I'd sell it at the eight year mark.

    • @JoeyJoJoJuniorShabbadoo
      @JoeyJoJoJuniorShabbadoo Před 4 měsíci +1

      Lightning is a piece of trash. Go search their reliability.

    • @thatoneotherotherguy
      @thatoneotherotherguy Před 3 měsíci

      @@JoeyJoJoJuniorShabbadoo Lightnings are fine. R1T's are not particularly more reliable than them.

    • @IReahpZz
      @IReahpZz Před 3 měsíci

      @@thatoneotherotherguyford Evs are already showing there colors between the Mach e and lighting . Would trust rivian more than ford at this point which is sad .

  • @robertmoulton2656
    @robertmoulton2656 Před 4 měsíci

    Appreciate you filling in for Steve Magnante . Really. Nice 😁 ❤

  • @saablazer1658
    @saablazer1658 Před 4 měsíci +7

    $1,600/month is insane

    • @motownpontiac
      @motownpontiac Před 4 měsíci +2

      Could buy property at the same cose and not lose a crap ton on depreciation. Though he'll make a ton on videos.... SO there's that.

  • @tinystar3010
    @tinystar3010 Před 4 měsíci +22

    Another major advantage of the Rivian, it actually looks pleasant. I hate EVs visuals but can settle on a Rivian.

    • @wolfgangpreier9160
      @wolfgangpreier9160 Před 4 měsíci +1

      I pity you.

    • @JSFGuy
      @JSFGuy Před 4 měsíci +3

      It is an improvement, not quite there. The one that looks pathetic like a duck is the Tesla series. They could have done something with that front end...

    • @tinystar3010
      @tinystar3010 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Wolfgang, go troll somewhere else. Like a Fortnite video.

    • @tinystar3010
      @tinystar3010 Před 4 měsíci +3

      And JSF, I agree. The Rivian front is a bit odd, but for an EV it's not as bad as most of them. I've always said there's nothing wrong with going EV. But why do they need to make them look weird? They can still look normal and beautiful and just be a different power source. Tesla Cybertruck however... I get their point, the truck model hasn't changed much over a 70 year period. But they didn't really think about why it hasn't. Truck design was largely right from the beginning and why so many people liked the 70 plus year designs of trucks. At least Rivian is still in the truck ballpark.

    • @wolfgangpreier9160
      @wolfgangpreier9160 Před 4 měsíci

      @@tinystar3010 then do not troll yourself. And I still pity you. 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @Barbieee03
    @Barbieee03 Před 4 měsíci

    Hoovinator!! Cool truck man! Hope 2024 is amazing for you brother!

  • @isaacfortner
    @isaacfortner Před 4 měsíci +37

    I’m surprised to see Hoovie so optimistic for the Cybertruck, even liking the looks considering how much social media has panned it.
    A used Rivian does seem like a good value. I have a few friends who bought early R1Ts, and they haven’t had any issues with them despite being a brand new car from a brand new company.

    • @LongIslandMopars
      @LongIslandMopars Před 4 měsíci

      How do they get serviced if there is a warranty or out-of-warranty issue?

    • @Cttechexpress
      @Cttechexpress Před 4 měsíci +2

      ​@LongIslandMopars Rivian has a lot of service centers and are expanding rapidly. They opened 35 last year alone. They also do mobile service.

    • @isaacfortner
      @isaacfortner Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@LongIslandMopars There’s a brick and mortar Rivian dealer/service center near me.

    • @LongIslandMopars
      @LongIslandMopars Před 4 měsíci

      @@Cttechexpress Their is a big Tesla service center by me but I've never seen a Rivian service center.

    • @LongIslandMopars
      @LongIslandMopars Před 4 měsíci

      @@isaacfortner where are you located? By me there is a big Tesla service center but I never saw one for Rivian.

  • @jonbrowning6839
    @jonbrowning6839 Před 4 měsíci +11

    An Edsel for a new century.

  • @mexicanspec
    @mexicanspec Před 4 měsíci +20

    The sacrifices you make for You Tube is amazing, Tyler.

  • @steveseeger
    @steveseeger Před 4 měsíci

    Can't wait to see the CT content! Smart move doing both configurations and flipping. The hype will be there at least long enough to flip if you want. I had an early 2018 Model 3 (28k vin) and long since bored of it. I have a day 2 reservation for CT but expect to be in my price range hopefully before 5 years lol

  • @maxpaul11
    @maxpaul11 Před 4 měsíci

    Interior is so important in a luxury world car! That Interior looks so comfortable 😍

  • @Hrethgir
    @Hrethgir Před 4 měsíci +5

    "Champagne taste on a beer budget" says the guy who is buying two $100k+ trucks while standing in front of hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of his other cars while waiting for a garage bigger than my house to be built on his acreage property with a large house getting a full update on it. What kind of a beer are you drinking on this budget?

  • @a.z.3214
    @a.z.3214 Před 4 měsíci +11

    Hoovie has a point with "imagine someone just sneezing and taking out a house with their truck"
    I´m actually scared of especially elderly people who already have the tendency to mistake Gas and Brakepedal in their slow normal cars, driving those 6000lbs 600hp monster trucks. I feel like there should be a gentlemens agreement within the brands to at least have the EVs run by default in a "normal" mode where the insane acceleration isn´t the case. The EVs can have the power, sure. But without becoming a threat to everybody else.

    • @TripleZ89
      @TripleZ89 Před 4 měsíci +2

      And the hummer ev is like 9k lbs. Eeesh.

    • @a.z.3214
      @a.z.3214 Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@TripleZ89 exactly! Imagine this slamming in the side of a mother in a 02‘ Civic. Just because we can build such vehicles doesn’t mean we should

    • @MrDuncl
      @MrDuncl Před 4 měsíci

      Will insurance premiums sort that out. The Ford RS Cosworth was killed by the annual insurance premium exceeding the new cost of the car.
      p.s. Your comment reminds me of a colleague saying his Mother test drove a Golf VR6 and scared herself as she didn't realise it was supposed to be a performance car.

  • @mrgarrison3516
    @mrgarrison3516 Před 4 měsíci

    1:00-1:10 the horizontal line across hoovies shirt lines up exactly with the top of the window of the car behind him....same thickness too😂

  • @trebm3
    @trebm3 Před 4 měsíci +1

    the bait and switch for the Cybertruck with little to no communication from Tesla has been hilarious

  • @mjleg1
    @mjleg1 Před 4 měsíci +11

    Love my R1T, nice seeing this on HG.

  • @arnick2
    @arnick2 Před 4 měsíci +5

    The Rivian will make a nice planter in the backyard for you to keep your potted plants on the farm when the battery dies and it all stops working.

    • @juzoli
      @juzoli Před 4 měsíci +1

      You have to wait a few decades for that lol:D

  • @CLCIII
    @CLCIII Před 4 měsíci +4

    The Cyberbeast is an amazing vehicle and I would like one, but not at $120K! The Rivian would be appealing but for the goofy looking headlights. The repair costs on the Rivian for body damage is ridiculous. If I could justify one or the other, it would 100% be the Cyberbeast! It looks futuristic and is really cool in SO many ways! As Always, May God Bless you and yours! 😇

    • @Lukeywoodsey
      @Lukeywoodsey Před 4 měsíci

      Tesla repair costs will be so much worse

  • @andrewsimckes5748
    @andrewsimckes5748 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I love him saying champagne taste beer budget with the Ferrari right behind him

  • @macbook802
    @macbook802 Před 4 měsíci +24

    You should paint one of them in waste management bin green 💚

  • @jono6379
    @jono6379 Před 4 měsíci +8

    Hoovie going to be towing his cybertuck with his cybertruck😂

    • @mentat1341
      @mentat1341 Před 4 měsíci +1

      He will use the million mile Dodge to pull them both

  • @Yonder-Bognie
    @Yonder-Bognie Před 4 měsíci

    We love when hoovie’s just doin hoovie things.

  • @Lokisword
    @Lokisword Před 4 měsíci

    Well this year has gotten interesting, it will be interesting to see how this plays out

  • @TheBstakz
    @TheBstakz Před 4 měsíci +93

    Man, if Hoovie kept the F150 Lightning, then it would've been cool to do a huge comparison with the Rivian and the cybertruck. But still looking forward to any content Hoovie has in mind!

    • @Gurupimp10
      @Gurupimp10 Před 4 měsíci +13

      Didn't it just suck tho? Look at the video/videos he made on it.

    • @matthewmuellner
      @matthewmuellner Před 4 měsíci +1

      Not like none exist, just not in his garage.

    • @cloudyview
      @cloudyview Před 4 měsíci +13

      Yep, get this channel back to it's roots, towing tests of brand new electric vehicles.

    • @Deke1
      @Deke1 Před 4 měsíci +10

      F150 Lightning turned out to be useless...

    • @mjphoto45
      @mjphoto45 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Already on youtube. Nothing beats the cyber

  • @deerinmyyard8430
    @deerinmyyard8430 Před 4 měsíci +18

    I've never watched a video on the Rivian - I enjoyed this video. The interior of the Rivian is very nice! Those seats look epic!

    • @Lasertrac
      @Lasertrac Před 4 měsíci +1

      Looks like they copied Lincoln’s seats

    • @denreed17
      @denreed17 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Daddy Doug did 2 videos on one, pretty awesome truck. Just not my thing.

  • @guillermogonzalezquintero3035
    @guillermogonzalezquintero3035 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Yes, it is true that someday there are going to be on a back yard just waiting for its destiny the difference is that is most likely going to need a full battery pack at minimum instead of a couple of cans of starting fluid and some plugs to get going again but cool to see how common they are becoming

    • @MrDuncl
      @MrDuncl Před 4 měsíci

      I have concerns about ancient batteries in that situation. I have had about five Lithium batteries swell up in devices that weren't being used, the most annoying being a power bank that had only ever been charged once.

  • @Chopski64
    @Chopski64 Před 4 měsíci

    Those door handles in an ice storm. 😂😂😂 Good luck getting in.

  • @Cloxxki
    @Cloxxki Před 4 měsíci +18

    They could not make space for a spare wheel, which the Rivian with larger battery does have. Seems they got lazy, cheap, or both. The range extender should fit bolted to the bottom of the floor as second floor or something, not ruin the bed space which already isn't amazing. They don't have the R1T's gear tunnel either. A range extender could have the cells horizontallly placed for a thin ride height reduction. All the weight down low as possible. Just less offroadable with full range, acceptable.

    • @TheNiteinjail
      @TheNiteinjail Před 4 měsíci +1

      Could not? give me a break. they obviously chose not to and I agree with hr choice. the vast majority of cybertruck owners are going to be rich people showing off their toy trucks. their own personal $100k rollercoaster. These owners will never touch a tire Jack let alone change a 100+ pound 35" wheel/tire combo... so if you're calling roadside assistance anyway you don't need to lug around a heavy cumbersome spare. Off-road people will just install a rack with spare rack or put a spare in hr bed when needed ... so no problem for them either... how many cybertruck owners are left ?

    • @Cloxxki
      @Cloxxki Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@TheNiteinjail Why the small battery and no spare vs the Rivian, then? The do have the "Vault" CV us just a cubby too small for a wheel. From the makers of the 2012 Model S with a 150 litre frunk. Somewhere Tesla forget what they knew about packaging.

  • @musseda999
    @musseda999 Před 4 měsíci +14

    I’ll go with a nice, reliable, ICE Tundra, thank you.

  • @furmanmackey5479
    @furmanmackey5479 Před 4 měsíci

    Like Ford Lightings, I have only seen two Rivian pickups in our area. One of those Rivian trucks was very close in color to the one in your video but looked like it had spent some "quality time" in a rock tumbler as I could not find a spot larger than my hand on the truck that was not seriously dented. Dented beyond belief it might have been, but it was still very much drivable and serving as the owners' daily driver! The second Rivian I have seen looked pristine but was sitting on a third or fourth tier used car lot with a "Make Offer" sign in the windshield. I suspect that one was a flood car, but I have no personal knowledge to prove it as I could not get to it because the dealership was closed and all the vehicles were behind a tall chain link fence topped with razor wire and I'm too old, fat, and delicate to attempt climbing such a fence just to satisfy my curiosity. Not to mention such an action would have been against the law and orange is not my color. Take care and Happy New Year!

  • @michaeljulian2632
    @michaeljulian2632 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Happy New Year 2024 Tyler

  • @SashaGrace94
    @SashaGrace94 Před 4 měsíci +5

    Hoovie Cybertruck towing test when???

  • @Dr_prepper.
    @Dr_prepper. Před 4 měsíci +5

    Demolition ranch wants to buy one for a shooting video. Let him buy one from you and do a video or something with you.

    • @centurion262
      @centurion262 Před 4 měsíci

      As soon as I head that it was "Bulletproof" I knew it would peak the interest of certain CZcams channels! I hope they do get one and see how bulletproof it is against a 50cal!!!😂

  • @user-od9iz9cv1w
    @user-od9iz9cv1w Před 4 měsíci +2

    They are going to have trouble scaling up. So if demand remains it may be like the C8 for a while with Cyber Trucks holding their value for the first 3 years. Actually a smart purchase. You will have early CZcams content and be able to dump them after a year for a profit.

  • @Ultimatebubs
    @Ultimatebubs Před 4 měsíci

    I hope that you're planning on Towing the Rivian with it, and vice-versa!

  • @robertgrantz6639
    @robertgrantz6639 Před 4 měsíci +9

    The range extender doesn't just "take up space" - it's like a third of the bed. I can't believe the best solution they could come up with to hit(ish) the numbers they promised was a giant battery brick in the part that makes it a truck.
    Also, Hoovie, "champagne taste on a beer budget" with a straight face just after talking about a $1600/mo. payment for one of two Cybertrucks that you're buying?

    • @rustler08
      @rustler08 Před 4 měsíci +3

      Bold of you to assume that truck owners use the bed.

  • @chaelodoul9401
    @chaelodoul9401 Před 4 měsíci +7

    Countdown to Christmas??!! The fuq? Is this back to the future? 😮😮😮😮

    • @tei1337
      @tei1337 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Maybe he took a ride in that DMC up at Omega and lost track of time. 😂

  • @SeversVideos
    @SeversVideos Před 4 měsíci

    Great Review Hoovie!

  • @markgutekunstdc2516
    @markgutekunstdc2516 Před 4 měsíci +22

    I can only imagine what the insurance will be for the cybertruck. I know that the insurance on the Rivian is very high because collision repairs are ridiculous.

    • @jarredeckman1976
      @jarredeckman1976 Před 4 měsíci +7

      yes, they are and we are all subsidizing the cost with our rate hikes this year.

    • @ZavHustles
      @ZavHustles Před 4 měsíci +1

      Aren’t they also very unreliable?

    • @johnnelson9739
      @johnnelson9739 Před 4 měsíci

      No they are very solid. I have had one for a year. No issues.

    • @ZavHustles
      @ZavHustles Před 4 měsíci +4

      @@johnnelson9739 a year without issues, the bar must’ve been set low lol. I wanna see how the car and battery hold up after 100-150k miles

    • @rndmprsn3532
      @rndmprsn3532 Před 4 měsíci +1

      ​@@ZavHustles The issue is there is no seperate bed...so rear end collisions wrinkle the entire body and is a mess

  • @matthewmuellner
    @matthewmuellner Před 4 měsíci +4

    In 60 years, none of these vehicles with electronics on top of electronics will be pulled out of a barn & revived. No more than a 50 year old tablet. They are all temporary & disposable

  • @nopota7290
    @nopota7290 Před 4 měsíci +4

    Did my guy say "the countdown to christmas"? Brother it's january

  • @AdamDarroll
    @AdamDarroll Před 4 měsíci

    Ii signed my son up for draft kings now we can do something other than kicking the ball around the years thanks Hoovie

  • @ianray8823
    @ianray8823 Před 4 měsíci

    Just gotta say, that was a proper Hoovie introduction

  • @procatprocat9647
    @procatprocat9647 Před 4 měsíci +6

    Your cybertruck video has convinced me to get a rivian

    • @volvo09
      @volvo09 Před 4 měsíci +2

      The cybertruck is only hyped up because of it's wacky looks.
      I'd also get a rivian. First pick would be lightning since it blends in like a regular truck. Rivian blends in nicely also, but those headlights are unique and everyone knows what it is.

    • @wolfgangpreier9160
      @wolfgangpreier9160 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Good. The Rivian is really good looking and very nicely designed. The CT is a ugly beast.

    • @wolfgangpreier9160
      @wolfgangpreier9160 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@volvo09Not wacky. Ugly as hell. Perfect!

  • @Marco-cb3oh
    @Marco-cb3oh Před 4 měsíci +7

    What happened to hooptees? Cyber truck and Rivian are more like a toy for the rich and good luck with getting the wizard I’m sure he will not them with a ten foot extension cord

    • @kjbober
      @kjbober Před 4 měsíci

      Yeah, doesn’t he have some clapped out AMGs or Beat down bimmers to repair?

  • @argeldelacruz9545
    @argeldelacruz9545 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Imagine living in your cybertruck can’t wait for those videos soon

  • @oldsmobilethompson1658
    @oldsmobilethompson1658 Před 4 měsíci

    Aw yeah, pop out the side like that YEAH!! It's interesting times when California and Illinois compete with Detroit's finest. I frequent a Chicago L train that goes passed a whole lot of these Rivians sitting for sale or waiting to be shipped and what-have-you.These are aging gracefully and I think they'll look even better in 25 years. Still waiting to spot a Tesla Cybertruck here in Northern Illinois.

  • @Motorsportsgeek
    @Motorsportsgeek Před 4 měsíci +32

    You did good, make videos of it while the hype is high then sell it off before they depreciate like old refrigerators and people realize they are just unibody fake trucks more comparable to a honda ridgeline with an electric motor and not a real truck.

    • @plektosgaming
      @plektosgaming Před 4 měsíci +4

      I say it often, but there is a reason the engineers from Tesla left to make their own company. Rivian simply makes a better EV in every category where they compete with Tesla.

    • @Motorsportsgeek
      @Motorsportsgeek Před 4 měsíci +6

      @@plektosgaming The mechanical review that shows the cyber truck from under neat makes me feel bad for the engineers involved. I've seen better-made kit cars but people buying Tesla are people who want to be seen in them and boy did Elon deliver with these refrigerators, people who crave attention will be right at home in them.

    • @plektosgaming
      @plektosgaming Před 4 měsíci +5

      @@Motorsportsgeek $100K for a truck that the first time it rains will look terrible. (bare) Stainless steel is a gimmick and looks like garbage after a year. If you wash it wrong.. oh well, scratches from washing it (lord forbid you go to an automatic wash!) and no way to really take them out aside from carefully sanding them - having to re-finish every couple of years like those watch restoration videos (on sterioids - certianly not something you can DIY) or just living with that dull silver patina. There is a reason why you put paint on panels, after all. People are already recommending putting film on the thing - basically a clear wrap to keep it from turning into a disaster. Brand new - sorry, buy PPF to keep it looking decent?
      Hard pass on so many levels.

    • @wemakecookie
      @wemakecookie Před 4 měsíci +1

      ​@@plektosgamingThey developed a stainless steel alloy specifically for the Cybertruck. It's gonna take a lot more than carwashes to scratch it.

    • @egs2169
      @egs2169 Před 4 měsíci +4

      @@plektosgamingis this a joke?

  • @criticalevent
    @criticalevent Před 4 měsíci +4

    Pawn them off on some fan boys. I had 5 of the $39,900 RWD trucks reserved, he can go pound sand at the current price and wait time.

  • @mharry860
    @mharry860 Před 4 měsíci

    More money than brains, is the best quote I've heard from a client.

  • @SquirminHermanthe1eyedGerman

    I like the Rivian over the Cyber truck plus they come in colors & Rivian just started building a new plant right here in small town Social Circle Georgia that should be open in a year or so! I hope they revise the front a little more soon ✌💖☮

  • @Smuffez
    @Smuffez Před 4 měsíci +11

    Good Christmas add placement Hoovie 👍👍

  • @jaredgarlock1594
    @jaredgarlock1594 Před 4 měsíci +13

    Keep it and flip it in a year. It will be interesting to see what depreciation is. Plus you can make content with the truck win win.

    • @leerob2403
      @leerob2403 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Depending on the build quality and production numbers, I highly doubt there will be any depreciation. They will be selling for double or triple MSRP when they are all spoken for. Which they already are...

    • @wolfgangpreier9160
      @wolfgangpreier9160 Před 4 měsíci +1

      In one year it will go for 120-140K.

    • @nopota7290
      @nopota7290 Před 4 měsíci +12

      @@leerob2403 double or TRIPPLE? 🤣🤣🤣AINT NOBODY BUYING A USED CYBERTRUCK FOR 300K🤣🤣🤣

    • @juzoli
      @juzoli Před 4 měsíci +5

      @@leerob2403This truck is made for people who want to feel special. Once they are on the road in higher numbers, it is not special anymore, just stupid. It might easily happen within a year.

    • @leerob2403
      @leerob2403 Před 4 měsíci

      @@nopota7290 Just like I thought no one would buy or sell 10, 15, 20 year old trucks with 200+k miles for close to what it cost new...

  • @Zepherian
    @Zepherian Před 4 měsíci

    As a daily multipurpose it's compelling. I can't think of another car that could haul 5 adults, a shopping trolley of groceries and still have a pickup bed left over for whatever else is part of the route for that day. My only reservation is long term cost of ownership.

  • @cnisingle
    @cnisingle Před 4 měsíci +1

    I wouldn't say a beer budget is two Cyber Trucks at $1,6XX per month each, or even one at that price but.... hahah. Looking forward to seeing your videos with the Cyber Truck!!!

  • @Flies2FLL
    @Flies2FLL Před 4 měsíci +6

    I don't think the CyberTruck is going anywhere. Traditional truck buyers are not going to have a thing to do with it, and the people who would want one generally cannot afford to spend that much money. I think it will flop in the marketplace, but like the DMC-12, in ten or so years there will be a resurgence in value.
    That thing is bizarre looking, and what happens when a kid on his bicycle plows into one of the front corners?
    Great video, silly car-

    • @drunkenhobo8020
      @drunkenhobo8020 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Like it or not, traditional truck buyers are a minority. Trucks are a lifestyle item and a status symbol, with most people never using the towing or carrying capabilities.

    • @nopota7290
      @nopota7290 Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@drunkenhobo8020 Trucks, a status symbol? You should pitch that idea to Rolls-royce, Bentley, BMW, Mercedes and Porsche. I wonder why those brands don't have trucks if they're such a status symbol. Could it be because they're perhaps not a status symbol?

    • @drunkenhobo8020
      @drunkenhobo8020 Před 4 měsíci

      @@nopota7290 Because they're European and pick-up trucks are an almost exclusively American phenomenon?

    • @Flies2FLL
      @Flies2FLL Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@drunkenhobo8020 Very true, well said. But the price point of the CyberTruck will turn away a lot of buyers. I still say this product probably won't do too well.

    • @bwofficial1776
      @bwofficial1776 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Cybertruck sales are going to fall off a cliff once the Tesla fanboys and tech bros get theirs. It's just too weird, too impractical, too expensive, and too ugly. No one's buying Hummer EVs. Rivians are doing okay because they look like trucks and have a normal-ish interior. The Ford F-150 Lightning sold decently well until Ford raised the prices.

  • @P.Galore
    @P.Galore Před 4 měsíci +3

    Could be a big mistake?????? It already is! 7% interest! 2 of the same vehicle! EV resale plummeting!

  • @trentryan27
    @trentryan27 Před 4 měsíci

    Can't wait to see the towing test

  • @Cloxxki
    @Cloxxki Před 4 měsíci +6

    The F150 Lightling can now be had NEW for $47K. At that price, a fair alternative to the RWD Cybertruck, surely? But available 3 years earlier.

    • @Doberio
      @Doberio Před 4 měsíci +1

      Although both are BEV trucks, customers aren't cross shopping a F150/Cybertruck.

    • @volvo09
      @volvo09 Před 4 měsíci

      No way, really?
      That's like 50% of what they were going for when released?!

    • @thatoneotherotherguy
      @thatoneotherotherguy Před 4 měsíci

      Yep. Lower trim new Lightnings with the cash back offer are pretty good deals. Generally only a few thousand dollars more than a comparably equipped gasoline F150. On paper the gas F150 starts much cheaper. In reality, they don’t sell the Lightning anywhere near as base as the single cab RWD gas F150.

    • @kjbober
      @kjbober Před 4 měsíci

      Ford is sitting on thousands of unsold Lightnings. No one wants them since Hoovie’s review that showed how bad they lose range when towing. 😅😂

  • @randommanlady
    @randommanlady Před 4 měsíci +4

    1:04 somebody better check on Tyler I don't think he realizes the holidays are over😅

  • @zefram47
    @zefram47 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Just got back from a 2200 mile road trip in my R1T. Jack of all trades, master of none...best single vehicle I've owned.

  • @seanclark5613
    @seanclark5613 Před 4 měsíci

    The R1T is definitely my dream car and I would drive that thing everywhere.