Rivian vs Cybertruck vs Lightning! Quick Tour & My Recommendation For You

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  • čas přidán 13. 01. 2024
  • We are wrapping up our initial Cybertruck testing with a quick (for Out of Spec) tour of a Rivian R1T, F-150 Lightning, & Cybertruck AWD. Which truck is right for you? Watch and find out!
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  • @OutofSpecReviews
    @OutofSpecReviews  Před 4 měsíci +59

    Which truck would you go for? Comment below!
    Also - Don't worry! We cleaned up the parking lot from all of the crush test stuff.

    • @xavierdupuis8
      @xavierdupuis8 Před 4 měsíci +32

      Rivian 💪

    • @landcruiser801
      @landcruiser801 Před 4 měsíci +19

      Want to see a Cyber Truck properly tested off road using the correct settings etc

    • @mattwill63
      @mattwill63 Před 4 měsíci +1

      when i see these vehicles all i can picture are 3 trucks with 3 holes in their gas tanks leaking gas all over the ground. You are literally pissing money away them sitting overnight after you spent money filling em. The fact these vehicles dont keep all the energy you spent money on to fill them up to begin with is assinine. EV is a total scam!

    • @MountainManGuy
      @MountainManGuy Před 4 měsíci +8

      Rivian

    • @akira28shima32
      @akira28shima32 Před 4 měsíci +20

      @@mattwill63 My Model Y gets 320 miles charging at home and cost $15 of electricity. New technology is scary for some people, but NOT so scary that it’s a “scam.” Bike was scary for some people when first introduced.

  • @BremboT
    @BremboT Před 4 měsíci +97

    Kyle has the gift of gab. This wasn't a 2 hour video edited for 20 mins. It's a straight shoot. Nice work!

    • @rygregory
      @rygregory Před 4 měsíci

      Haha sometimes too much. We all know he can easily talk about a paper clip and make a 1-hour video out of it. 😂

    • @scottwilkins
      @scottwilkins Před 4 měsíci

      Except it's only a form and features review, not a full review with driving and other points of interest.

  • @kgenest100
    @kgenest100 Před 4 měsíci +32

    Giving you an oscar for this amazing one-take performance!!

    • @poplaurentiu4148
      @poplaurentiu4148 Před 4 měsíci

      Only missing from this comparison is GMC Hummer Pick-up, that one has some cool extra features like :
      individual removable glass roof panels, crab-walk and ability to rock-crawl..

  • @joshneilson9376
    @joshneilson9376 Před 4 měsíci +47

    Finally an honest review giving the lightning the credit it deserves!

    • @michaelsmith6744
      @michaelsmith6744 Před 4 měsíci +2

      rivian owner here. the lightning is an awesome vehicle and deserves the credit.

    • @hwirtwirt4500
      @hwirtwirt4500 Před 3 měsíci

      @@michaelsmith6744 So is the Rivian, both excellent vehicles.

    • @ChristmasEve777
      @ChristmasEve777 Před měsícem

      Hummer EV owner here. The Lightning is the best traditional truck you can get. I only didn't go for it because I'm trying something new and didn't want to go traditional this time.

  • @michaeldavis1904
    @michaeldavis1904 Před 4 měsíci +49

    It would be really neat to see like a 300-500 mile road trip to some national park all done by the 3 trucks like in a caravan and then see what the charging infrastructure, amount of electricity, cost and charging times were all like. Rivian cybertruck and ford f-150 lightning

    • @chiplangowski3298
      @chiplangowski3298 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Once the Cybertruck gets into the hands of a real owners (not owners/reviewers that Tesla can count on to provide a positive review), we will see those types of comparison tests.

    • @frankdelao4067
      @frankdelao4067 Před 4 měsíci +1

      National Parks only have level 2 charging within their boundaries. You can use a lot of power driving around the parks and not have enough to get you back out unless you charge these huge battery packs for hours.

  • @brentftaylor
    @brentftaylor Před 4 měsíci +70

    I took my Lightning for a drive today in zero degree temps with snow and it performed flawlessly. Electric cabin heat is the best!

    • @CamGaylor
      @CamGaylor Před 4 měsíci +1

      I want a MachE

    • @mtxpert
      @mtxpert Před 4 měsíci +6

      @@CamGaylorI've had both, the Lightning is a better vehicle all the way around.

    • @multivisao
      @multivisao Před 4 měsíci

      -30% range

    • @brentftaylor
      @brentftaylor Před 4 měsíci +3

      @@multivisao I also have a Tesla and it’s about the same but unless you’re driving an extended distance it isn’t an issue.

    • @roodick85
      @roodick85 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Electric heaters are so overlooked! Heats up immediately

  • @MH-Tesla
    @MH-Tesla Před 4 měsíci +40

    Just your enthusiasm alone makes this a great video! Thanks for being so fair and honest!

  • @The-Rest-of-Us
    @The-Rest-of-Us Před 4 měsíci +156

    This was really insightful. While I still love the Cybertruck for its innovative design, manufacturing and tech, it’s surprisingly not ahead on either range, storage, charging, toeing power or practicality. That’s a bit of a bummer, especially given that it came out a few years after the others…

    • @Abebe345
      @Abebe345 Před 4 měsíci +23

      I personally think it is ahead on all of those for my use cases, but it depends a lot on user.

    • @alexng4
      @alexng4 Před 4 měsíci +40

      tesla took them 4 -5 years to finally come to production and range is weaker..lol..Tesla is pathetic

    • @Molishious
      @Molishious Před 4 měsíci +26

      The 48 volt architecture, steer by wire and 4 wheel steering seem like cool innovations. The stainless steel exoskeleton and general weirdness seems unnecessary to me. I don’t quite see where a $80,000 - $120,000 vehicle fit’s into the company mission. I agree it doesn’t beat the competition on the most practical features.

    • @user-my4xu4gf1z
      @user-my4xu4gf1z Před 4 měsíci +10

      The Hummer EV is by far the best looking. I thought the cyberdork was supposed to be a tank but it looks smaller then most suvs on the road. Look up custom hummer ev. Those things are so sexy and are actually tanks on the road. The cyberdork just screams elon is my daddy. I'd be embarrassed to drive it.

    • @sprockkets
      @sprockkets Před 4 měsíci +8

      I'm a musk hater but I'll equally call out the hummer ev for also being stupid and overpriced. At least GM makes a WT and a version later that will tow 20k pounds.

  • @erhantimur
    @erhantimur Před 4 měsíci +39

    Great review of three amazing trucks. I much prefer these faster / shorter videos.

  • @seanmivey
    @seanmivey Před 4 měsíci +10

    Got my lightning a month ago. LOVE it. Traded in my bolt and frontier to consolidate. Gimmie a full-size, body on frame, parking pawl havin truck with a spare tire and more accessories than you can shake a stick at, any day over the other two. It's almost like Ford makes the best-selling TRUCK or something.

  • @jackjetpilot
    @jackjetpilot Před 4 měsíci +32

    The Rivian is just so good looking.

    • @seadogg404
      @seadogg404 Před 4 měsíci +1

      the interior is on par with f150 lariat, gorgeous

    • @barrya.6212
      @barrya.6212 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Except for those dorky out of place looking headlights.... they look like Marvin the Martian eyes... :)

    • @hwirtwirt4500
      @hwirtwirt4500 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@barrya.6212 I would have preferred the headlights being mounted horizontally.

    • @ChristmasEve777
      @ChristmasEve777 Před měsícem

      @@barrya.6212 I agree with you guys, the vertical headlights look terrible. Also not a fan of hood ornaments / emblems. Reminds me of the 80s.

  • @easternpa2
    @easternpa2 Před 4 měsíci +72

    Nice job getting through this. I wish you had pointed out the gear tunnel on the Rivian and the custom kitchen you can buy that slides in and out of it. Really highlights the "lifestyle" aspect of the brand. Great job again, and thanks for all you do.

    • @Molishious
      @Molishious Před 4 měsíci +20

      Rivian deleted the kitchen from their gear shop last year. You can google it and a link to the kitchen will pop up, but when you click on the link you’ll fin there is no kitchen in the shop. The gear tunnel is still super cool, but not as cool as it would have been with the kitchen.

    • @rogerstarkey5390
      @rogerstarkey5390 Před 4 měsíci +1

      That's an "Oops" moment then?

    • @Trades46
      @Trades46 Před 4 měsíci +2

      The slide out Kitchen was a neat gimmick, but I doubt too many buyers taken it and it was expensive to procure. Rivian desperately needs to show a profit for investors, so no wonder that option has been deleted for MY2024.

    • @tonypaca3015
      @tonypaca3015 Před 4 měsíci +5

      Cybertruck is the worst at everything except the gimmicks: worst charging performance, worst range, worst road noise, worst suspension comfort, worst driver assistance, and worst offroading, worse in terms of sensors but the most expensive. The only advantage would be that it is semi-bulletproof

    • @djbis
      @djbis Před 4 měsíci +1

      Absolutely agree. It was an ommision I can forgive though, as most enthusiasts are already familiar with that niche feature. I personally love it. Rivian made a fantastic truck and it would definitely be my choice from the 3.

  • @johnkiefer1314
    @johnkiefer1314 Před 4 měsíci +15

    My Lightning and Rivian orders came within a month of each other (Rivian first). My previous truck was a Lariat F-150, which I loved. If I was looking for a work vehicle or had to seat 5 people comfortably, I’d have gone with the Lightning. But I’m mostly an off-roader with 4 seats needed, and the R1T was the direct design for that. It’s like a larger version of the offroad lifted Tacoma I had, but much better daily driver.
    Both of these EV vehicles are great. Some of the differences are a bit more nuanced than folks tend to describe. I am finding the Rivian hauls anything I need (plywood, mulch, etc.) and the Lightning seemed like a better offroad vehicle than my Lariat was. If I was a construction contractor I’d go with the Lightning. Since I’m a hydrologist working a lot in wilderness, I went with the Rivian. But either can work for both of those types of owners.
    No comment on the Cybertruck. My wife vetoed it based on aesthetics. Regarding charging networks, yes Tesla is the best. But I haven’t had any major issues road-tripping the Rivian - been across 6 southern states with it so far and just ran a 1500 mile circuit through FL in 4 days for a series of business trips away from home without any problems. So, I think that’s also a nuanced difference. Just get the vehicle that feels best for you. For me, it’s the R1T.

  • @dreamburn1
    @dreamburn1 Před 4 měsíci +5

    Thank you so much for the brevity. I wish all your videos were this format. Excellent review. You presented the facts without drama and an overload of negativity and criticism. I definitely prefer this style of video.

  • @AnonymousFreakYT
    @AnonymousFreakYT Před 4 měsíci +9

    18:45 - It has the 14-30R because when using power tools in the field, you want the locking plug.

  • @cantbe03
    @cantbe03 Před 4 měsíci +4

    Have had my lighting Lariat for over a year. Still love it every day I get in! Charge at home and have never had an issue. Putting my tools in the frunk is fantastic.

    • @barrya.6212
      @barrya.6212 Před 3 měsíci

      FRUNK ....love it.... our new term to use...

  • @christopherquinn4120
    @christopherquinn4120 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Excellent video. I own the R1S but this particular video has been so anticipated for yrs and so congrats getting it out the door so early. Well done covering a LOT in a tight timeframe. Still madly in love w my Rivian but see some solid features in the others.

  • @msal4652
    @msal4652 Před 4 měsíci +14

    Great video. My takeaway is that each truck has pros and cons so everyone should choose based on their individual use case. Whatever works for you is the best truck. Isn’t that all that really matters? No reason to bash ones you don’t like.

  • @PatriciaToth-ew8cu
    @PatriciaToth-ew8cu Před 4 měsíci +2

    ford and i think this is one of the best videos you've done.enjoyed the fast pace, no nonsense, approach.

  • @SailingEast
    @SailingEast Před 4 měsíci +1

    Best review yet I’ve seen by this guy … to the point, no bs, no yada yada yada, just a great insightful and informative review.

  • @SCSLead
    @SCSLead Před 4 měsíci +20

    I just purchased the Lighting XLT. While I like the traditional look, it was my only choice. The other 2 are simply out of my price range. Having said that, I love this truck

    • @LaughOutLouie88
      @LaughOutLouie88 Před 4 měsíci

      Great choice. I will be looking at a Lightning very soon as well.

  • @YeOldeTraveller
    @YeOldeTraveller Před 4 měsíci +13

    The 14-30 is more like the gas generator that the Ford Pro Power system is designed to replace, so I think it is a better fit for the design use case.

  • @MontanaMedic13
    @MontanaMedic13 Před 4 měsíci +17

    It's nice that each of these trucks are awesome in different ways. You really did an outstanding job of zooming through this comparison. It's definitely much more interesting than the typical ICE Ford vs GM vs Ram and Toyota.

  • @mikeflanary642
    @mikeflanary642 Před 4 měsíci

    Great job Kyle and Out of Spec team! Hope you guys get a nice vacation

  • @iycrra75
    @iycrra75 Před 4 měsíci +4

    Nice Vid! Rivian is just a thing of beauty. It will never go out of style. Elegant but patagonian.
    The material, paint job, the finshes, inside and out are hands down second to none.
    I have 2 teslas. Cheap ass materials inside. I wouldn't get another one. Future Rivian owner here for sure.

  • @racingtogreen2023
    @racingtogreen2023 Před 4 měsíci +31

    We just hit a year with our Lightning. Almost hit it with it in the shop due to a 33 day battery, lightbar, and steering wheel upgrade/recall repair(we had no apparent range, battery, or lightbar issues). Hopefully, this will be it for awhile. Form factor for us, it's the best. We'll be working on an overland upgrade to it, and an overland trailer with about 3kW of panels, and 20kW of batteries, so with good sun, we'll be able to put probably 40 miles per day into it.

    • @lrod8692
      @lrod8692 Před 4 měsíci +7

      I hope it works out for you. I’m at 38k miles in my Lightning and has been nothing but a pleasure driving it. So much so I ended up canceling my CT Reservation. The interior on the CT is such a bummmer

    • @Bb-br3xg
      @Bb-br3xg Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@lrod8692we have a 22 King ranch and are so dissapointed by the interior… it feels so cheap and creaky

    • @lrod8692
      @lrod8692 Před 4 měsíci +5

      @@Bb-br3xg then you won’t be happy with the Model 3 interior in the CT

    • @collinkelly3355
      @collinkelly3355 Před 4 měsíci

      What can you tow and for how long?

    • @bkanegson
      @bkanegson Před 4 měsíci +2

      It's the most "old school" of the three, but it has an actual spare tire and a place for it, bed caps/ toppers are available, and it has the great frunk. So of the three, it does far more of what a truck is really for, IMHO. (Wish it had a full 6 foot bed.) Once it can easily charge with NACS on the Tesla network, it surprises me to say, first choice of the three.

  • @djbis
    @djbis Před 4 měsíci +1

    Holly heck man, what a great overview of the 3 hot ones! You crammed so much info and covered each truck with enough detail, yet fairly. I really do feel as though I could make a decision if I was buying one of them based on the variety of use cases you presented here. I mean, you ought to change the name to "Well within spec" reviews, cause CZcams recommended this video and it absolutely nails all the metrics a viewer would want to understand!
    Thank you for your dedication, it is clear you are extremely passionate about what you do and I love to see it.

  • @nikx1918
    @nikx1918 Před 4 měsíci +3

    I like the lighting the best. Beautiful non flashy meat and potato TRUCK!!

  • @Cttechexpress
    @Cttechexpress Před 4 měsíci +6

    The amount of content Kyle the the Out of Spec team put out is amazing. Thanks for all the hard work guys (and ladies).

  • @mtxpert
    @mtxpert Před 4 měsíci +3

    Love my lightning, had it for a year, works amazing!

  • @trmon8890
    @trmon8890 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Very nice, Can't wait to see more reviews like this

  • @zabihtoosky658
    @zabihtoosky658 Před 4 měsíci

    Yet another excellent review, thanks for posting useful content.

  • @FthePump
    @FthePump Před 4 měsíci +4

    Absolutely love my Lightning, but cannot wait for my Compare. Coming soon

  • @ichigo19870
    @ichigo19870 Před 4 měsíci +7

    Would love to have a winter comparison in the mountains in deeper snow and ice between all three.

  • @namehere676
    @namehere676 Před 4 měsíci

    Solid Work Explaining Each Truck

  • @MrSmith-ok7tl
    @MrSmith-ok7tl Před 4 měsíci

    Dude! You earned your paycheck with this review. Well done!

  • @CarlitoswayDR
    @CarlitoswayDR Před 4 měsíci +7

    Great video Kyle! So much knowledge of these vehicles allow you to speed up the pace wow impressive. I think best shot is the F150 unless their software is not that great. Maybe next video should be comparing technology. Panel accessibility

    • @stephanegregoire3243
      @stephanegregoire3243 Před 4 měsíci +1

      With my Lightning i use apple carplay / Apple Plans with is new % destination, almost on par with Tesla.

  • @bv3700
    @bv3700 Před 4 měsíci +5

    "No one really uses 14-30R..." Well, I use it to run a generator cable to my house, to a transfer switch, to power my boiler, well water, fridge and some.other lights and things when the power is out. VERY useful.

    • @csf1757
      @csf1757 Před 4 měsíci

      That doesn't look like a 14-30 to me. Pretty sure it was a locking receptacle, probably a L26-30

    • @bv3700
      @bv3700 Před 4 měsíci

      @@csf1757 It's an L14-30R. Round, lockable, yes. 👍

  • @wesleypulkka7447
    @wesleypulkka7447 Před 4 měsíci

    Congrats on the 200K! You're doing a great job for EVs which are the very near future for everyone!

  • @roberturbanski9735
    @roberturbanski9735 Před 4 měsíci

    Thanks for the insightful information for all three trucks!

  • @Upsidedownfoodpyramid
    @Upsidedownfoodpyramid Před 4 měsíci +4

    Can you run tests in North Dakota in the extreme winter conditions like today -20F or below?

  • @gochovin
    @gochovin Před 4 měsíci +6

    Great videos and great team work all this week. I’ll say it depends on when you buy the truck and if it’s going to be your only vehicle. At this point in time the Tesla charging network is the best and the Ford and Rivian can’t really use it, in the future yes I will consider other brands but right now CT is the best option if you road trip and you want a truck.

    • @lenm2857
      @lenm2857 Před 4 měsíci +2

      I read the Tesla chargers were opening to GM and Ford in Feb or Mar. this year.

  • @InfinitelyQurious
    @InfinitelyQurious Před 4 měsíci +2

    I'm a Tesla owner, but the Ford F-150 Lightning is a helluva truck. I got to test drive one and I was impressed.

    • @JoshuaDodoo
      @JoshuaDodoo Před 4 měsíci

      Have you driven the Cybertruck? Elon says it’s Tesla’s best production vehicle

  • @siener
    @siener Před 4 měsíci +1

    First to be announced, last to be released, most expensive, slowest charging, shortest range. Surely this is the most iconic Tesla product ever

  • @SeanMcLaughlin-gs4je
    @SeanMcLaughlin-gs4je Před 4 měsíci +6

    Also of note, Lightnings are now coming with a 14-50 adapter for the 14-30R plug, but you have to either use something with a max 30A draw, or back down the draw on the device to 30a. When ordered, the mobile charger on the Lightning is 30A (as opposed to the 32A MPC that comes with Mach E) to accommodate EV charging off that adapter.

  • @Abebe345
    @Abebe345 Před 4 měsíci +7

    Outstanding work to you and your great team. Your ability to condense a lot of very useful information and communicate it is very good.
    Comprehensive reviews. You worked with what you had but would have liked to have seen the lightning in all of the videos.
    Great description of the features, use cases and what would make someone choose each one.
    Only major ommission that is a buying factor and reality is the choice of stainless steel for the exoskeleton unlike all other trucks really.
    Great reviews and would eventually like to see comparisons to Hybrid offerings, large EV SUVs that do overlap, and all new EV trucks coming.
    Great job, safe trip back, look forward to more.

  • @Jesse8th
    @Jesse8th Před 4 měsíci

    👏 brave to you for knocking that out! Man how did you even breath 🫁! Great job on the reviews!

  • @chrispeveto3105
    @chrispeveto3105 Před 4 měsíci

    That was an impressive effort. I liked the pace.

  • @BeanEW
    @BeanEW Před 4 měsíci +5

    Rivian for me too!

  • @soucyno1
    @soucyno1 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Hey Kyle, when the F150 lightning first came out, you hooked up seven different vehicles to that truck. I have not seen a video of you doing that with the cyber truck yet.

  • @JavaJoe
    @JavaJoe Před 4 měsíci

    Finally a detailed video that was quick

  • @Electrum
    @Electrum Před 4 měsíci

    Great fast and quick review. Hope my Ad’s watching pays u off 😊

  • @timdsd
    @timdsd Před 4 měsíci +9

    Great job describing the differences, Kyle. I like the Rivian, but all three trucks are too big for my needs. I wish Ford would offer a Maverick EV.

    • @jysmtl
      @jysmtl Před 4 měsíci +1

      Yes!

    • @roodick85
      @roodick85 Před 4 měsíci

      They're so close!! Why they didn't make one is so ignorant

    • @seadogg404
      @seadogg404 Před 4 měsíci

      The Maverick is coming as part of the t3 platform produced once blue oval city comes online

  • @kimle01
    @kimle01 Před 4 měsíci +7

    Got the F150 Lariat during the price drop best value for functions and pricing out of those 3. Big Frunk and biggest cab space. 70k with for the Lariat Extended battery before tax rebate.

    • @danandfaith
      @danandfaith Před 4 měsíci

      We did the same exact truck, same pricing. Got it late November. We live in New Hampshire, so also the benefit of no sales tax. And it’ll get the $7500 tax credit. Our electric coop also sends you a $1000 check when you buy an EV, so that didn’t hurt either.

    • @Dinozero
      @Dinozero Před 4 měsíci

      Would you care to say where you got it from? I’m looking for this price / deal now.

    • @kimle01
      @kimle01 Před 4 měsíci

      It was from autonation

  • @TimeisReel
    @TimeisReel Před 4 měsíci +1

    Kyle and Friends...Good Job.

  • @slyguyaction
    @slyguyaction Před 4 měsíci

    Kyle - the hardest working MoFo on CZcams. Period.

  • @stevenjackson7898
    @stevenjackson7898 Před 4 měsíci +4

    Ignored the Rivian's gear tunnel when comparing the storage across the models.

    • @boostav
      @boostav Před 4 měsíci +1

      It was obviously a rushed video

    • @paulbram2
      @paulbram2 Před 4 měsíci

      Frustrating since this was the one video I was most excited for and got so little attention. We got hours of deep Cybertruck nerd content which I'm fine with, but this was the one we actually needed to go deep on!

    • @xavierdupuis8
      @xavierdupuis8 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Nope its a big win over the two others

  • @seljoypro
    @seljoypro Před 4 měsíci +6

    If I had to choose it would be the Cybertruck Long Range (which is not discussed in this video) to come out this year. The Beast Mode version has insane specs performance wise, but for road tripping and general use, the Long Range makes the most sense.

  • @bnkwupt
    @bnkwupt Před 4 měsíci

    Great side by side comparison.

  • @CatIcarus
    @CatIcarus Před 4 měsíci +1

    This was a wonderful succinct video! Thank you! I'm the future EV customer who needs a truck. I have been looking between these 3. I like the Ford a lot

  • @johnnyv9024
    @johnnyv9024 Před 4 měsíci +6

    We have a Ford XLT which has become our daily driver. Been great, though Ford needs to work on their software and accessory/parts support. They say "dealers are our eyes and ears" but 4/5 "local" dealers don't do parts or accessory warranty returns. They literally told Ford support 'no' over the phone 😡

    • @wolfgangpreier9160
      @wolfgangpreier9160 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Thats one reason why i try to avoid Ford and the others. They can not do Software.

  • @stephanegregoire3243
    @stephanegregoire3243 Před 4 měsíci +3

    I love my lightning, my best car/truck even, the utility and comfort are WOW, I had 2 model S before (huge bug with motor noise) and I dont use my second car Model 3 AWD any more.

  • @jackjetpilot
    @jackjetpilot Před 4 měsíci

    Excellent overview!

  • @halemarine5991
    @halemarine5991 Před 4 měsíci +1

    The channel I watch the most on CZcams!
    Informative, fair and honest
    Thank you

  • @selbyjohnson5986
    @selbyjohnson5986 Před 4 měsíci +18

    wow the f150 is a massive vehicle. Not sure I would want to daily drive that. I like the size of the rivian and cybertruck.

    • @user-my4xu4gf1z
      @user-my4xu4gf1z Před 4 měsíci +6

      Disagree. I think the bigger bulky truck the more beastly it looks. I thought the cyberdork was supposed too be a tank but it's actually tiny.

    • @spacebound1969
      @spacebound1969 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@user-my4xu4gf1z bro STFU no one cares. I've seen 6 comments from you complaining about the size of these trucks. I know your wife is disappointed with your size so you have to make it up with a truck, but that's not what every one else's priority is

    • @danandfaith
      @danandfaith Před 4 měsíci +2

      When we bought our Lightning, it felt large. But we also drive a 21’ ProMaster-based Camper Van, so we’re used to the size. The camera setup is fantastic, especially the 360 degree view, which our Model Y lacks. My favorite is a camera right on the Ford badge on the front, so you can see how close you’re getting to a snow bank.

    • @tyeetamer
      @tyeetamer Před 4 měsíci +2

      The Lightening is small compared to most pickups.

    • @rhk0327
      @rhk0327 Před 4 měsíci +1

      cybertruck has more cargo space, more cabin space than the f150 lightning, yet smaller vehicle. benefits of better space efficient engineering.

  • @canieto1
    @canieto1 Před 4 měsíci +13

    In summary:
    Rivian: Patagonia
    Tesla: Tech Bro
    Lightning: Workin folk

    • @ordinaryhuman5645
      @ordinaryhuman5645 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Rivian: hipster
      Tesla: travel and attention
      Ford: corporate vendor lock-in

    • @wydryfly
      @wydryfly Před 4 měsíci +2

      Rivian: I'm Rich
      Tesla: I'm Rich
      Lightning: I'm Rich but really stupid

    • @rogerstarkey5390
      @rogerstarkey5390 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@wydryfly
      😂

    • @Dou6.2
      @Dou6.2 Před 4 měsíci

      😂😂

    • @Dou6.2
      @Dou6.2 Před 4 měsíci

      @@wydryfly😂😂 Nah that’s the Cyberturd

  • @robwilliams9546
    @robwilliams9546 Před 4 měsíci

    Thank you! Definitely trucks for different uses and tastes! Has anyone done a comparison/review of over the air updates?

  • @electrifiedmotors
    @electrifiedmotors Před 4 měsíci

    I got almost 30k miles on my R1T bed cover still works 😊 good comparison. I agree to live with one I would have to choose R1T. I had a lighting at the same time did a video comparison and ended up with keeping the rivian. Family of 3 keep in mind is perfect. We all love it. Thnaks for this video real champ getting it done soo quick. No cuts lol

  • @billmM3605
    @billmM3605 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Based on looks alone, it would be the Rivian or Lightning for me. If it came down to one choice it would be the Lightning based on brand recognition alone. Not taking anything from the Rivian. The Cybertruck is not only ugly but it's useless as a pickup as anything I can think of.

  • @CamGaylor
    @CamGaylor Před 4 měsíci +5

    Ford all day

  • @funnyent
    @funnyent Před 4 měsíci

    Great video - impressive to do it all in one take

  • @willburdette8065
    @willburdette8065 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Also worth noting that getting anything out of the Cybertrucks bed from the side is a major pain unless you’re 6’2 or taller.

  • @GeeDeeBird
    @GeeDeeBird Před 4 měsíci +3

    Here's some food for thought. Ford brought the Lightning to market nearly two years ago. Despite all the advances since then, it is still a very serviceable vehicle. The ground-up-design Lighting with better range, better towing capability and better upgradeability is set to begin production in late 2025. What do you think Ford will do with the experience and technical advancements between now and then?

  • @appleiphone69
    @appleiphone69 Před 4 měsíci +3

    I’d get the F-150. If you have body and sensor damage to the Rivian or CT. Good luck getting your vehicle fixed in a reasonable timeframe and at a reasonable cost.

  • @smvballer6
    @smvballer6 Před 4 měsíci

    This guy is good. Had me focused the whole time 😮

  • @ernielaw
    @ernielaw Před 4 měsíci +1

    One more thing worthy of mention on the Rivian, it has a storage compartment which runs from one side of the truck to the other.

  • @lrod8692
    @lrod8692 Před 4 měsíci +9

    The best part about the Lightning is the software is secondary to the truck, meaning, you don’t need the software to drive it. There are no fart sounds or gimmicks. Just a Truck with a Battery.

    • @Shiftheads
      @Shiftheads Před 4 měsíci

      That's actually a disadvantage to legacy auto. You have one company making powertrain then another on infotainment and another on hvac etc. So many modules made from different manufacturers makes it way less seamless and reliable than building hardware and software together.

    • @lrod8692
      @lrod8692 Před 4 měsíci

      @@Shiftheads so far so good with the Lightning. People confuse software, true software that runs all those modules to the gimmicks in the entertainment system. When people say “Tesla has the best software” and you ask them why, they immediately start talking about the entertainment options or how you have to go through two screens to open the glove box.
      As far as the EV software itself, the Lightning is probably better than Tesla, I own a Model 3 and the Lightning is far better drive wise.

    • @Shiftheads
      @Shiftheads Před 4 měsíci

      @@lrod8692 I'm not talking about entertainment stuff though. I'm talking about everything from ui of their app to their throttle mapping, bms, inverter package. To open the glove box you literally just push the button on the steering wheel and say open the glove box lol.

    • @lrod8692
      @lrod8692 Před 4 měsíci

      @@Shiftheads yeah and the Lightning is right on par or better than Tesla. I own both of them so have direct comparison. Even AP is subpar to BC. I cant say anything about FSD because I dont have it but will eventually subscribe for a month to compare.
      This false narrative that Tesla is superior is just not true, and the CT is really proof of it. It's mid pack at best.

    • @Shiftheads
      @Shiftheads Před 4 měsíci

      @@lrod8692 I'm not saying Ford is worse or tesla is better I'm saying legacy auto companies are going to have a hard time going full EV when they have all these suppliers. One for belts and hoses, one for engines, ones for abs modules etc. They are huge ships that can't move and can't manufacture. Why do you think they all just announced they investing less in electric vehicles? They can't compete with the costs to manufacture. I think the lightning is great. I love that there are options.

  • @iank516
    @iank516 Před 4 měsíci +10

    I still can't get over the oddly low clearance in the rear of the cybertruck. WTH did they bolt on down there?

    • @tv-ld3wv
      @tv-ld3wv Před 4 měsíci +2

      Some rumors suggest it's removable
      But i don't know why creating that problem in first place
      Maybe legal stuff, aerodynamics 🤔

    • @boostav
      @boostav Před 4 měsíci +2

      It has an air suspension my dude ...

    • @TroySavary
      @TroySavary Před 4 měsíci +2

      ​@@boostavIt still has a pretty mediocre departure angle, even at max height.

    • @iank516
      @iank516 Před 4 měsíci

      Air suspension isn't fixing that departure angle..and definitely not saving whatever that big (plastic, I'm sure) chunk is from getting smashed or ripped off.

    • @iank516
      @iank516 Před 4 měsíci

      Also.. it's just ugly back there...like it's cruising around with a full diaper.

  • @Da-King-of-Swing
    @Da-King-of-Swing Před 4 měsíci +2

    QUESTION: Which rear seat area is larger the F150 or CyberTruck? And by how much? Thank you

  • @dand6005
    @dand6005 Před 4 měsíci

    Great, honest review!!!

  • @truhartwood3170
    @truhartwood3170 Před 4 měsíci +5

    I am interested to see what the electric pickup options/specs will be in 5 - 10 years. The batteries should be way better by then and hopefully chargers will be much faster as well. I feel like I'd want around 600mi real-world range in a pickup, which should be totally doable in 10 years without increasing the battery weight at all. Right now the CT seems the most practical to me. It's a paradigm shift to have a pickup that has the maneuverability and acceleration of a sports car, yet with 16"+ of clearance, and you can bash it all day with a sledgehammer and do no damage. Spacious cab and bed to boot. I'm imagining being able to hide a winch in the frunk with a cutout in the hood for the rollers, and gear boxes on either side of the winch for your towing/winching gear. Your winch and cables would all be kept nice and dry in there, and it wouldn't change the aerodynamics or approach angle.

  • @TehDeeBjorn
    @TehDeeBjorn Před 4 měsíci +8

    Rivian looks more attractive..Cyber look small..but F150 looks more realistic to be a work-horse you can take at work sites.

    • @rogerstarkey5390
      @rogerstarkey5390 Před 4 měsíci

      Why?
      You want to move a truck around a site? 4 wheel steer.
      Visibilty? Nice low front.
      You want a REALLY secure, large storage area?
      You want a longer bed?
      You want ground clearance?
      .
      "But the side access"?
      How about a bed slide-out?
      Then, any access issues disappear.
      .
      Just sayin'

  • @Omi2cool4ya
    @Omi2cool4ya Před 4 měsíci

    Well done mate

  • @AndrewKuntzman
    @AndrewKuntzman Před 4 měsíci +1

    Congrats on 200k

  • @sanohajian3174
    @sanohajian3174 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Great review, this helped me to pick the Ford F150 as it is the most practical truck of the 3.

  • @robertstout7756
    @robertstout7756 Před 4 měsíci +15

    Would love to see a 100 mile or so Baja like race between these three trucks. I don’t think the cyber trucks lack of locking hubs will hold it back.

    • @EricMeins
      @EricMeins Před 4 měsíci +1

      The CT's front and rear can electronically lock on the dual motor so all tires turning all the time. 👍

    • @TheBCninja
      @TheBCninja Před 4 měsíci +3

      ​@EricMeins it currently doesn't, and it requires a software update to do so...

    • @dobermanguy9437
      @dobermanguy9437 Před 4 měsíci

      Fords have been making trucks a long time that would be an easy pick especially for somebody who wants to do off-road hard driving the Cyber truck is too new and it's going to have a lot of bugs to work out

  • @sidzhottake
    @sidzhottake Před 4 měsíci

    Nailed this video guys!!!

  • @thatschill777
    @thatschill777 Před 4 měsíci

    @OutofSpecReviews
    Help please
    Your videos are great! Quick question... Currently in a dead R1S. 12v and high voltage. Will it work to drop it at a level 3 and plug that in?
    At which point will the 12v no longer need to be hooked up to another vehicle?

  • @777Outrigger
    @777Outrigger Před 4 měsíci +4

    Great review of three great electric trucks. ..... Everybody's saying how they love how the R1T looks now, but I remember how polarizing the front headlights were. Now they seem normal. Wonder if everyone will get use to the looks of the Cybertruck? As for who has the charging advantage, I would say the Cybertruck, because it has full access to the reliable Supercharging network.

    • @user-xl8kt4lh6d
      @user-xl8kt4lh6d Před 4 měsíci

      @777Outrigger Rivian will have access to Tesla charging network this year.

    • @777Outrigger
      @777Outrigger Před 4 měsíci

      @@user-xl8kt4lh6d Not all of them. Not the V2s. And there are a lot of V2s in important places on the road. Plus, from what I've seen, Rivians get a max of 131 kW charging on Superchargers. Hopefully that will change.

  • @joshb.1118
    @joshb.1118 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Wonder how the comparison would be if he got to compare the Cyberbeast to the Rivian quad motor, and the Lightining Platinum.

  • @westtnperio
    @westtnperio Před 4 měsíci

    That was a very well done video !!!

  • @JamesTechjackinJackson
    @JamesTechjackinJackson Před 4 měsíci

    Great video!

  • @zellodavis8453
    @zellodavis8453 Před 4 měsíci +3

    As a Rivian owner, I use my front trunk all the time, it fits two carry one and a couple little items, with the lid floor in. You’d really have to be soft to not be able to lift items into it.
    F150 Frunk looks great, Cybertruck looks like stuff will fall out.
    Cybertruck looks smaller in the back of the cab than the Rivian, contrary to the commentary, have to see one in person to know I guess.

  • @adamcoughran5230
    @adamcoughran5230 Před 4 měsíci +10

    One other competition is updates…Ford almost never does updates.. Tesla will for sure have updates.. but Rivian seems king right now in this category.. makes the truck exciting and like a new toy to play with every couple months.

    • @Lewis_Standing
      @Lewis_Standing Před 4 měsíci +2

      Are they meaningful though?

    • @adamcoughran5230
      @adamcoughran5230 Před 4 měsíci +3

      @@Lewis_Standing yes absolutely! Every single update has changed the way I drive

    • @rogerstarkey5390
      @rogerstarkey5390 Před 4 měsíci

      Rivian? Based on?

    • @Dou6.2
      @Dou6.2 Před 4 měsíci

      @@adamcoughran5230lol no

    • @danandfaith
      @danandfaith Před 4 měsíci

      FSD has not improved in our experience. It reads stop signs on adjoining roads that are not perfectly 90 degrees to the one we’re on, and slams on the brakes. And Tesla’s software updates over the last several months broke the automatic wipers that they’d finally dialed in, and now run when it’s not raining and don’t always when it is.

  • @jgs1564
    @jgs1564 Před 4 měsíci

    Great comparison review! I didn’t realize how much smaller the Cybertruck is, compared to the other two trucks, especially the F-150 Lightning.

  • @MichaelTroulis
    @MichaelTroulis Před 4 měsíci +1

    Very useful info. Thanks!

  • @MoAWarlord25
    @MoAWarlord25 Před 4 měsíci +3

    The only thing Cybertruck is missing is a sun roof shutter that could have extended from the bed or at least transitioned glass that can switch to dark mode.

    • @markmonroe7330
      @markmonroe7330 Před 4 měsíci +4

      Well, there is no spare tire so there is that. This is a key issue for folks that actually use their trucks as trucks. Not having a spare tire seems to indicate what market Tesla is aiming for (not real truck people).

    • @TroySavary
      @TroySavary Před 4 měsíci +5

      Tesla doesn't seem to understand that people might want a sun shade on the glass roof.

    • @aerostorm_
      @aerostorm_ Před 4 měsíci

      There are *many* third-party shaders you can buy for any other tesla model glass roof. Cybertruck won't be any different

    • @rayr6278
      @rayr6278 Před 4 měsíci +2

      ​@markmonroe7330 Anyone using an EV is 'not a real truck person.' They are still vastly outclassed by ICE vehicles in every metric that matters to truck user.

    • @TroySavary
      @TroySavary Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@aerostorm_ None of which work as well as the built in shades that nearly every other vehicle with a glass roof come standard with.

  • @focojeepr
    @focojeepr Před 4 měsíci +7

    Nice straight to the point review. Hard to beat the lightning for comfort and truck bed usability. Side note, people are gonna get hurt falling into that sharp rear corner of the cybertruck.

    • @musicjewell9329
      @musicjewell9329 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Ha who the heck randomly falls into a cars corner?

    • @focojeepr
      @focojeepr Před 4 měsíci

      @@musicjewell9329 Not saying it’s common, but will certainly happen. People slip, loose footing, etc. Children goof around and fall into things non stop.

  • @ismailnyeyusof3520
    @ismailnyeyusof3520 Před 4 měsíci +2

    A very insightful episode for me. As usual, Kyle did a great job breaking down his thoughts on the three trucks but to me he highlighted something else. The reason why truck design has basically been the same for decades is because it is a good design. The Ford Lightning is probably the best version of what a truck can be. Tesla’s Cybertruck is awesome but its design is a bit of a compromise. Not a lot of compromise and it does fulfil the need to look radically different from other trucks but for a truck it could have more headspace in the back, better view behind and a bigger frunk. The Cybertruck probably needs more advanced batteries, should be in the works, to pull ahead in terms of range and of course there is the FSD future that will certainly make it highly desirable.

  • @1winlock
    @1winlock Před 4 měsíci +3

    Has Rivian addressed the overheating problem? Has it been Phoenix AZ tested?

    • @paulelledge8977
      @paulelledge8977 Před 4 měsíci +3

      I see them all over the place here in Phoenix and have for a year or two now.