Islam IS Homophobic. Stop Pretending It’s Not
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- čas přidán 12. 09. 2020
- Homophobia, sexism and transphobia are rampant in Muslim countries--so why isn't it being called out by the LGBT and other communities?
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My question is: How much is the head covering a religious symbol and how much is it just cultural clothing?
@@ireallyreallyhategoogle its a hundred percent a religious thing
@@rufruf6649 Then why are people wearing it saying it's cultural, and that they aren't even religious.
I'm talking about people in Canada, not in Muslim ruled countries.
@@ireallyreallyhategoogle to be honest i dont know. But what i do know is islam requires woman to wear a head covering so its not a cultural thing. Maybe those people that say it is are just not well educated
@@rufruf6649 The way i heard it. Head covering was used to protect the hair from the sun, the sand and basically the environment. Then Islam recuperated it as a sign of modesty and from there others added face covering and then full body covering.
People call out Christianity ALL the time but never Islam
You live in a small world.
Umm I think the opposite happens the most
@@eyerined8936 bullshit
The two best religions
@@eyerined8936 within the queer community, for some reason, Christians are condemned more but then if someone said the same thing about Muslims they’d be cancelled
It’s so weird because when it’s Christianity it’s “yea you’re awful and clearly wrong and backwards” but when it’s Islam it’s “oh it’s just a different culture” but it’s so difficult because criticising islam puts you in a trap of being called “racist” and “imperialistic” because Islam is so much more deeply rooted into Middle Eastern culture that it’s difficult to distinguish the two as separate things
No you can. This is a trap that both the Muslim apologist and social warriors use to deflect valid criticism. Islam is an idea and ideas are never above criticism. As long as one makes the distinction between Islam and Muslims then no one can call him racist.
@@labranehit7687agreed.
Islam is not a race. It has followers from different racial groups. You have white, black, asian muslims. Moreover, Islam and Arabism is rooted in colonialism but NO one wants to talk about it.
What is currently seen as "traditional" muslim custom, is actually an invention of the recent times. I don't want to claim that its all just a misunderstanding, but we need to realise that Islamism is NOT a traditional way of living but in fact a deeply modern reactionary movement, targeting people who actually know very little about their own traditions (western muslims and convertites are probably the easiest targets)
How is different culture. How is different from christianity if it is same? In russia all people either love christianity and islam or hate both. In russia only christians are in love with christianity, liberal russians(ye those exist) hate both islam and christianity
There are a lot of Christian homophobes, but the worst they’ll do is look at you weird or make a snide remark. I’ll take that over being thrown off a roof or stoned any day
But there are sooo many LGBT friendly churches, some with Christian, Lesbian ministers too.
Abigail Harp they don’t stone women if they’re raped
Abigail Harp In Saudi Arabia having sex outside of marriage is punishable by law (straight or gay) but you have to have Four witnesses in order to be proven guilty, this law comes DIRECTLY from shariah but, rape is punishable in Saudi Arabia unfortunately most assaults happen with in families and there’s a huge stigma attached to reporting any assault not only by a family member. So most times rape just goes unpunished if the family didn’t honor kill the daughter to wash her shame away
Abigail Harp I’m reading a very good book on that topic by Lebanese-born author Ralph Ghadban. He lives in Germany and teaches at a University in Berlin as an expert on Muslims, Islam and the sociocultural consequences of their migration to the west.
Here’s a link to the book. It is called «Tarik Ramadan and the Islamisation of Europe». It explains the history of Islam and Muslim societies and compares it to the development of Christianity and Judaism, explaining how philosophers dating back to Aristotle have impacted these processes of emancipation into enlightened, rational society or rather lack thereof in the case of Islam and how attempts by Islamic scholars to do the same in Muslim society were silenced and / or killed along with their work. Tariq Ramadan lives here in Switzerland in the city of Geneva, so for me, a Swiss citizen, this was of even greater importance to read, but Ramadan is so widely influential in many countries and the book explains very well why Islam is «backwards» in many ways - seen through a westerner’s eyes - that it’s an educating read for all of us living in secular democracies that were mostly built by a society rooted strongly in some form of Christianity and Judaism.
I also recommend Alex o’ Connor’s CZcams channel CosmicSkeptic, he’s a brilliant young English lad, an atheist studying Philosophy and Theology in Oxford to basically debate these topics with arguments based in a deep understanding of the subject matter.
en.qantara.de/content/book-review-ralph-ghadban-tariq-ramadan-and-the-islamization-of-europe
Tell that to Mike Pence who wishes you’d be removed from Earth
I knew a former Muslim woman that told me her older brother was executed because he was ousted as being in a relationship with a man.
Holy shit
Arielle Scarcella Yeah...
🙁 Any deity that would condemn the love between two consenting adults is not one worthy of worship IMO.
@@daivahataka As a matter of fact, Islam doesn't give any importance towards consent.
@@salmannasser9147 if true that's worrying but then if you take some of the old testament literally Christianity would be the same, e.g. Lot's daughters getting him drunk to sleep with him.😳
Jeff Goldblum just said what was on everyones mind.
But then he walked it back and I was so disappointed! But at least he said something!
I was thinking it but you said it
sucks he got attacked for a valid question. 😒
He usually does.
*My main problem with the rainbow argument is that every single reason they give to try and justify it can be used for every other sexual scenario too.*
*Two consenting adults: Adultery is between two consenting adults.*
*It's found in the animal kingdom: Pedophilia and rape are also found in the animal kingdom*
*It's not a choice: Necrophilia is a mental disorder therefore not a choice*
*It can be safe if you use protection: Incest can be "safe" if you use protection.*
*Love is love no matter who it's for: So if you want to love someone else's lover, it's all fine?*
There are many Gay friendly Christian churches, some with gay/lesbian ministers even. However, I have never heard of a gay friendly mosque.
There is a gay friendly mosque in Canada and the Netherlands and a progressive Muslim organization in North America that conducts gay marriage - unfortunately the latter is looked down upon by both muslims and American conservatives as a joke. Progressive movements for muslims therefore have difficulty gaining traction.
They actually do exits because they are lead by gay imams, such as this guy who has a mosque in France. www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/06/gay-imam-islam-paris-france-mosque/
@@deniveave4612 Thanks for the info.
It's easy to make comments like this without ever doing any research...
LGBT accepting mosques exist... in Western countries. lol
I appreciate people actually talking about it. You can't solve anything without talking about it.
Exactly
Yep 👍
People have been talking about this for years, including me. Perhaps you’re just tuning in? Correct me if I’m wrong and good on you for being awake anyhow
Sadly, not everyone thinks like that.....
@@lydiapinnell1124 you think it's easy to come across people talking about this? Where? Aside from maybe a couple of people in my life this is an essentially unheard-of topic to me.
My cousin was stoned when he got caught holding hands with his boyfriend.. he is from brunei and he escaped to the Philippines which is more lgbtq friendly place.
Hope he’s better now
Good luck to him
Stop being a liar
@@jynx3978 Okay but claiming someone is lying without proof is a useless waste of time. You cant really tell who the person is either.
@@jynx3978 why don't you accept the reality and try to change it for better.. huh!
I so over the hypocrisy of attacking Christianity and calling them homophobic but not Islam. I have had many Christians that have been wonderful to me and supportive of me. I have also had Muslim be nice and respectful to me as well. There are bad in all religions just like there are good. Great video Arielle
Phoenix Hellfire 💯👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I'm Christian who loves everyone
Agreed . The Religious extremists are one of the problems but the non-Militants in any faith or spiritual path aren’t for which there are plenty
@@karahershey ❤
Kara Hirsch I’m a gay male Christian. And I’m not on my own. There’s so few old fashioned homophobes within the church, you need to find the right place for you. I’ve always had great misgivings about Islam, the religion is actively homophobic -and all the other phobias as well. 50% of Muslims in Europe are for pro making homosexuality illegal! That’s not the case with Christianity.
Anyone who screams Islamophobia has never been a non-muslim national in a Muslim country. Just saying. Also this is not to say that all Muslims are bad. It's just a statement on how ironic it is that people are quick to call out discrimination against Muslims in non-Muslim countries, but totally gloss over very very very real discrimination in Muslim countries.
This is another story you can add if you want
www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/09/malaysia-women-caned-public-lesbian-act-180903155056114.html
And this is very recent. Caning in our country is only reserved for very very serious crimes, just to give you some perspective on the disproportionate response. And it was LIVE. And this is only LGBT. Only.
that is definitely not true. as a muslim that lives in a muslim country(UAE), non muslims are treated equal and with respect. Unlike how I get treated whenever I travel to anywhere in the world. I have never seen people discriminated because of their religion in here [of course there is racism but not about religions]
@@saraha2649 Sorry ,but my direct experience of over 3 decades says otherwise. As jiggly puff mentioned, UAE is not really a good measuring stick.
@@saraha2649 Btw, I just have to add that the pattern of "your pain isn't real but mine is" is also a very common thing observed where I'm from. Note that I never denied there's discrimination towards Muslims overseas. I just pointed out the irony that the other way round is overlooked. Thanks for proving my point.
Germaine Tan yes i didn’t mean that either ( your pain is not real like mine is) but can you tell me where did you have that experience? because I genuinely did not know that it was a thing.
It's such a weird alliance between lgbt sjws and Islam. I will never understand it. Like, throwing people off buildings is fine but misgendering or criticizing religious practices is a cancelable offence?
Same with African Americans who vote democratic doesn't make much sense
Or the reason anyone votes democratic they will turn us into the middle east
@BaliZ La Productions That is the prescribed punishment for homosexuality according to Sharia Law.
It’s Isis whom are throwing homosexuals off buildings. Islam tells us to respect everyone and not to judge, leaving the judgment only to Allah and not on ourselves. So plz don’t generalise Islam with such act. Every Muslim imam / Shiekh (Muslim priest), tells the Muslim community that homosexuality is not a sin when it comes to the feelings, however the act is the sin. Us Muslims sees Life as a test which will determine our worthiness of heaven. So it really is your choice if you want to follow god’s guidelines or not but don’t expect a good outcome on the day of judgment.
@@harundaniel7705 Those who don't follow the law don't define the law. What is written defines the law.
I'm glad people are finally speaking out about this.
If Christians don't get the homophobia pass, Muslims shouldn't get it either.
Agreed
I am a lesbian in my 30s who comes from a muslim family. I have to hide and pretend that my partner is a roommate, that our kids are just her kids, and that the reason I'm still not married to man is because I'm fundamentally against marriage. There are many kind, decent muslims but I have never encountered one that would treat me like a fellow human being if I came out.
😲😲😲
I can see that what you're going through right now, I'll get through it too in the future. I'm 20 and I already have a plan ahead on marrying the woman that I love but I come from a very devout Muslim family. My girlfriend is a catholic. I keep thinking that if one day we both get married, I'm sure I'll keep telling my parents that she's just a room mate and our kids are just her kids. I just don't really know what else to say if my parents keep asking when am I going to get married while little did they know that I'm actually married to a woman. Even now when I'm only 20, my parents can't stop asking me when I'm gonna get married, they even try to find a guy for me. My dad said to my uncle that I'll be married when I'm 23 or 24. My mind is like "hell no. I won't get married unless with a woman". Good luck for you, and wish me luck
@Master of Cheeserolls Or she could try atheism. Religion doesn't always have the answer.
@@Criner05 wym u don't know anything proberbly about Islam yet u say religion don't got answers
@@atgyoutube3088 well there is a ton of proof that your answer are wrong
But I'm not gonna tell em to ya
If you want to you can find them yourself it's quite easy
Jeff Goldblum was 100% correct. The religion at a larger scale is medieval still. It went through NONE of the revolutions that Christianity went through after the Enlightenment era.
Correct
Well, we’re like 655 years behind 😀
Bring on Mohammed Luther to start the Islamic Reformation! 😛
jiggly puff it’s sad but true
A religion going through revolutions is a religion changing not improving.
I've met a bunch of muslims throughout my life. I've recently started asking them (the 18-34 age group) how their parents would hypothetically react to them leaving the religion. Responses have ranged from
"Well, my parents said they WOULDN'T kill me, but they would disown me"
to
"No, I couldn't do that. They wouldn't allow it."
That is so sad ):
I hope they get the best. Blessings to them
@@october3706 It is :( I hope you're doing okay Shari, wherever you are now.
You make it seem like the christian +other religious ones wouldn't do those
@@jynx3978 I grew up in Ireland, a highly catholic country. I've never met a catholic in my life that said their parents would disown them, or who had a reason to believe their parents would kill them over apostasy.
@@Ixaglet That's why your religion will fail
"It's not every Muslim doing these bad things"
1. Thank you for conceding that homophobia is a bad thing
2. No one is claiming it's all because it doesn't have to be all. It just has to be a large enough portion to become an issue, which it is!
@GodKingVivec majority of Muslims don't live in the Middle East, rather in South Asia and South East Asia
whole Middle East = 400 mln inhabitants
muslims in India + indonesia + Pakistan = 600 mln
When you're talking about Islam it's frustrating how people start to talk about muslims instead.
Yeah ! Some muslim are IGNORING Islam, but that doesn't change what Islam teaches.
@greenviolets1 also it is nice that you are making them become more homophobic as you are saying that
"YOU HAVE TO LEAVE YOUR FAITH" like if they are gonna be like "Yeah, people are calling us homophobic boohoo, let's erase the faith from our communities:D"
like I legit wanna know how your mind works
@@itsmeagain1415 so he shouldn't call out homophobia because it'll make the homophobes more homophobic?
Oh no!
the guy got banned :(
Thank you for this video! I'm watching this video while the world cup 2022 in Qatar is happening, it's depressing but as an Arab lesbian and an ex Muslim, I'm glad that the world is finally seeing the reality of the LGBT community in the Muslim world 💔💔
Yeah I'm glad the left is finally calling out Islamic countries for their abusive controlling practices. Hopefully Iran's government falls soon and gives rise to the more liberal society that it was in the 70s.
It's heartbreaking hearing about these women who somehow flee countries like Saudi Arabia, having to constantly evade Saudi police, their family, and any PIs who might go after them for the rest of their lives.
A diamon-encrusted golden prison is still a prison.
What a sad life…
As a gay muslim man i agree with you ❤❤❤
Allah is fiction@@Muad3
As an exmuslim from Qatar. I agree with him 100%! I hate people not allowing Islam to be criticized. If western society really learned the truth about Islam, they will be rejecting it instead of defending it. Fyi I don't know why slug is banned from Qatar :c
100%
Aren’t you worried about admiring you’re ex-Muslim on the internet? Does anyone in your real life know you aren’t Muslim?
@@goodgirl140 yes i am worried. But I wanna show support for other exmuslims. There are people in my life who do know. I am planning to leave this country. Important fact about Islam is that they refuse to change anything about the religion. I suggest you watching czcams.com/video/KHIsVmeGOm8/video.html
Maha Al Well, good luck on your journey, and I hope you continue to be outspoken when you get to a safer country.
Can i be friend with u;-; im a qatari and id love go have a conversation with u cuz it does feel lonely.. here
Arielle, you might remember me telling you about a gay man who was cyber-bullied by our progressive local LGBT cult for being scared of dating Muslims. This kind of shaming is just rapey. I am thankful for this video!
@jiggly puff like what?
Dude I’m scared of dating Muslims and I live in a Muslim country, can’t blame him. Also you can’t bully someone into dating you
@jiggly puff They found his dating profile. His bio was rather polite like "Islam is a great religion and Muslims are great but I'm not looking for Muslims". Then, the witch-hunt began.
@jiggly puff czcams.com/video/8kXEExDWp08/video.html blaire explains it really good
*My main problem with the rainbow argument is that every single reason they give to try and justify it can be used for every other sexual scenario too.*
*Two consenting adults: Adultery is between two consenting adults.*
*It's found in the animal kingdom: Pedophilia and rape are also found in the animal kingdom*
*It's not a choice: Necrophilia is a mental disorder therefore not a choice*
*It can be safe if you use protection: Incest can be "safe" if you use protection.*
*Love is love no matter who it's for: So if you want to love someone else's lover, it's all fine?*
Until these draconian laws are challenged nothing will change.
President Trump has challenged those laws. And he's called a racist for it.
NuclearGrizzly Islam isn’t a race, it’s a religion. People who think it’s a race (or that all middle eastern people are Muslims) are the racists
@@JaelaOrdo You don't have to tell me. I'm Moroccan (which is N African and not in the Middle East).
@@JaelaOrdo tell those who call Trump racist if he speaks out against Islamic extremism.
@Knight of The Unholy Filth Who said I was talking about my own country?
This reminds me that their are Americans who claim to hate being American. I typically respond to them with telling them to "move to *insert homophobic country with few rights* and tell me if you still hate being American!" that tends to shut them up.
www.cato.org/human-freedom-index-new
The United States is only the 15th freest country. It is ranked behind (in order) New Zealand, Switzerland, Hong Kong, Canada, Australia, Denmark, Luxembourg, Finland, Germany, Ireland, Sweden, Netherlands, Austria, United Kingdom, and Estonia.
nag Canada still better.
@@Criner05 I would agree with you but why is Hong Kong there?
Okay but america is not perfect😭 those countries are worse in those things, but have you seen america’s gun violence?
@@Nightcore_at_25 Have you seen gun violence in the middle east? Yeah...teaching little boys how to be soldiers and shoot people. Be serious.
this comments section is going to be interesting lol
Haha you already know
He makes a good point that it is infantilising to Muslims to assume they can’t handle having their beliefs discussed and criticised like anyone else
Yep, it's racist.
I’ve dated a gay Muslim. Knowing you’ll never be allowed to meet their parents is always an odd feeling for me
As an ex Muslim I thank you and would love to discuss this matter with you
May i ask you why you've become ex muslim ?
@@jynx3978 because I’m a lesbian and a feminist and islam says my punishment is supposed to be death by throwing me off the highest building of the city for being gay. Because Islam oppresses women and I was forced to cover my hair at age 9 when I lived in a Muslim country. Because Islam says men are allowed to have sex slaves and marry young girls as little as 6 years old. Because Islam says a woman is stupid and is worth half a man and two women must testify against one man in court. Because Islam oppresses anyone who isn’t Muslim and who doesn’t abide by the patriarcal disgusting rules and whatnot from the Quran and hadith.
@@queenxjanna9554 All of that is false
@@jynx3978 stop lying 🤥
Quran Surat El Nisa 34: “As for women of whom you fear rebellion, convince them, and leave them apart in beds, and beat them. Then, if they obey you, do not seek a way against them. Surely, Allah is the Highest, the Greatest.”
In my country Morocco every city has a gay section (still illegal). That's where the Muslim aristocracy, clerics and those in power from N Africa and the Middle East go to hook up. Mostly with Europeans. Then they go back to their own countries and it's business as usual.
More like for people who sell their bodies.. but people still hookup and everything its just in secret.. well pre marital sex in general is illegal which is obviously fucked up 😑 anyways I hate this country
Isn't a phobia fear of something. Killing someone for their actions is hate. Whats that called?
Large Sarge Morgan Freeman said it best: «I hate the term homophobia. A phobia means you’re scared of something but when you’re homophobic you are not scared. You’re an asshole.» 💯
Homomiso, if I'm not mistaken. Miso meaning hate.
@@MFCZcams683 Thanks Malo. Misohomo just sounds way too Full Metal Jacket. Lol
Yeah, I used to be afraid of gay people but I didn't hate them. I was literally homophobic.
@Jason Wilson Yeah, nice pop-psych theory. Doesn't hold up though. I hate child molesters and such. I am not scared of them. Disgust and loathing are not rooted in fear.
I'm sure fear does apply in some cases, though, just not always. Context matters.
Thank you for talking about this subject , I’m an ex Muslim lesbian woman who lived 27 years of my life in Saudi Arabia.
I can’t even talk about the horror that women and LGBTQ community are going through over there. Hijab has always been forced on to women at least in some countries, and the left in USA are wearing it in some of their protests trying glorifying it and support it as it some kind of a culture acceptance !! How ignorant is that! Being against the most misogynistic homophobic Islamic laws is not islamophobic . There’s is no way around it .
MRWorldGuy yes until it starts effecting my mental health . Living a double life is not really worth it.
Hijab glorification is just insane here in the west while our sisters are fighting with their lives in Iran, and other places to take it off. Left and Islamic holy alliance is just pure irony or is it.
Wearing a hijab doesn’t always mean oppression. There are so many women out there who simply wear one because they want to for their religion.
Most Muslims wear a hijab because of their religious beliefs not because it is forced. Forcing hijab will be wrong but banning hijab will also be wrong. Their should be freedom to practice religious beliefs as long as it's not hurting others.
@@nafishy Most Muslims wear it by force, I know in my country and in Iran and some other countries they are forced to wear it by religious groups ( police) have you lived there since you seems to know most Muslims ?.. Did I say banning women from wearing it? it’s symbol of slavery and misogyny it shouldn’t be celebrated. That’s disrespectful for the women who has no choice.
This conversation needs to be had more often. I believe that this video paints a very realistic picture on how’s it like for LGBT people and for women to be brought up in Islamic countries. Ignoring the problem and never talking about it in fear of offending Muslims is not a good tactic and it does more harm to the minorities in these countries than just being “offensive “ encouraging the Islamic mentality not speaking against it is harmful to people in these groups
There's also the argument that blind faith is worthless, and while not perhaps the goal of such conversations getting people to consider why they feel a certain way or believe a certain thing can help strengthen then faith so the religious leaders should actually encourage it.
But then I'm often baffled by the hostility to drawings of "Mohammed" when no-one actually knows what he looked like, and so all people need to do is say "I don't know who that is but it is not my Mohammed". I typically think of the famous scene from Spartacus but with them saying "I'm Mohammed" instead. 😅
Heck look at how many people think that Jesus, who was born and raised in the middle east, was white and that he was nailed to the cross through his hands and feet, not the wrists and feet.
I would reccomend Islam apologists research the Quoran, Hadith and Sharia Law.
@jiggly puff typo. On mobile. Will edit.
@jiggly puff It's also deeply savage. Jews and christians have long since abandoned Mosaic law which was the Judeo-Christian equivalent more or less of Sharia.
They probably have only seen few quotes here and there and have no clue what they’re talking about
@Knight of The Unholy Filth It is literally the way people say the term. That is why I said sharia law. I am not being repetitive. You're being pedantic. It's also not even a counter argument to anything I'm saying so why even bother?
You might be surprised by the Bible then - the orthodox original one not the mistranslated new versions. I am an atheist and can clearly see that the only difference between islam and christianity is that islam is much younger. Let us not forget what christianity did at its age of todays islam. Also I bet you would be surprised by the lifestyle in Istanbul - Turkey an islamic country... and how many Egyptians are atheists... anyway all of the comments, video etc is a reflection of US centrism and lack
of knowledge about other cultures to
be honest 🤷♀️. You could take the bible and based on its preachings do an authoritarian dystopia, just like with the quoran but I doubt this youtuber has the capacity to understand such things...
this video is gonna get censored. Muslims on CZcams will mass-flag this. Happens to Apostate Prophet all the time.
Yeah... I love the apostate prophet btw. Very enlightening videos about islam. Helped me leave my hateful mental cage called islam.
Apostate Prophet is amazing.
@@elarosenzweig3993 proud of you!!💖💖
That's what you all deserve
@@jynx3978 lmao. Thats why we don't want migration from places who's cultures oppose basic freedoms like free speech.
I’m a Christian and I happen to have a gay daughter that I love so very much, I will never understand how Christian parents could disown their child because they’re gay.I will never understand gay people who say they support Islam. I pray one day that gay people in the Middle East will be free to live their lives without fear of being thrown off a building or stoned to death.
@Farhad Mustafa i agree, its risking extinction, but welp
@MrBrown944 it goes against your “nature?” What’s the difference between your nature and real nature then
I truely don't understand why people call it ''racism'' islam is not a race, you can be any race and be muslim. And honestly thanks for speaking up, because the problem with homophobia in religion is BIG but everyone loves to just defend everything islam does
Exactly I can convert to any religion under the sun, but I have yet to discover the paperwork that let's me become Asian, or African.
Bro, who made you? Jesus right, jesus is your god, but have you ever thought, who made jesus and who made jesus mom who brought out jesus, and who made her mom, you see that one thing, allah has no mother father, son or sister or anything in between, you guys just chose to criticize islam because we arnt aloud to support it and we dont want to , that's our choice not you're choice, we choose heaven and you choose hell, it's not our fault we want to go to heaven and you dont, you cant just say it's unfair that people defend islam more then LGBTQ+ because we have a religion where it's not aloud to be gay, you guys just choose to be gay, it's not our fault and it's not our religions fault, it's just a simple responsibility in out religion
Everyone loves defending what Islam does?? 🤣😂 Either you’re ignorant, or completely stupid
@JaneØ3 ...You are aware that Jesus is the son of God, right?
@@jane3553 true I’m so tired of these “progressive” people who keep on attacking Islam.
We gotta stop calling it phobia this and that. It’s just ignorance and hate. Not everything needs a specific label to know what it is. It’s not a fear, it’s intolerance.
www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/phobia
Go to the second definition.
Ty
This ^
yes i agree well done
Your right
I've pointed this out for years and was told I was being intolerant... but the same people are just fine calling out Christianity.
Is it tolerance? Or is it fear?
Fear. Definitely fear.
Thank you so much for making this video! As an ex Muslim lesbian who is deeply (double) closeted out of fear of honour killing, this means a lot to me.
Bruh following your desires will only be your doom .use logic and critical thinking. Islam is the clear truth
@MRWorldGuy being in hell isn't a happy life lol also what do you mean by "naturel" ?
@rocket crew dracon on the contrary iam smart enough to know that he exists
@@chailouai3084 Prove it.
@rocket crew dragon OK so God does not exist who did the big bang
I actually started questioning Christianity for the same reasons as this dude started questioning his religion. I remember sitting in church listening to the preacher talk about how women should be submissive to their husbands and it just seemed a little bit wrong. It still took me a few years to get out and I'm still hiding a lot of stuff from my parents
Not all Christian's believe women should be submissive I came from a Christian chruch with women as preachers women as equal to men
submissive 100s of years ago could today mean repect each other thats how my chruch understands it
What you believe is irrelevant to what the Bible actually says.
@@karahershey have you read the bible? it says women should be submissive to the husband
*My main problem with the rainbow argument is that every single reason they give to try and justify it can be used for every other sexual scenario too.*
*Two consenting adults: Adultery is between two consenting adults.*
*It's found in the animal kingdom: Pedophilia and rape are also found in the animal kingdom*
*It's not a choice: Necrophilia is a mental disorder therefore not a choice*
*It can be safe if you use protection: Incest can be "safe" if you use protection.*
*Love is love no matter who it's for: So if you want to love someone else's lover, it's all fine?*
Islamophobia doesn't exist on a mass scale.
It's also hugely misogynist.
Say it fucking loader
Where ?
@@jynx3978 where not?
I'm muslim lesbian girl, my parents are very religious.. I'm scared of them 😢
Leave your parents when you grow up and leave your country too
Leave your parent if there any if bigotry and violent.
@@7Elvenpath IAM a bi Muslim man
And IAM also very scared.
But unfortunately I can't leave my parents, I have biggg financial problems.
And I will also feel very guilty if I do
The only thing I disagree about with this video is that Islam is not a minority. It's the second most popular religion in the world, behind only Christianity and not by very much.
I think they were speaking from a western perspective. The same way how black peoples are a minority in America, but are everywhere outside
@@habibtitingzz8899 When they have that much influence/control and are not being criticized as all other religions have been regarding these human rights issues, I don't think their size in America is as negligible as your comment implies (though I understand what you're saying). Particularly since it's shown itself to be fast growing.
I'm so glad this conversation is happening. It makes me so frustrated to constantly hear people talking shit on Christianity - some really nasty stuff - yet they defend Islam.
Christianity DID some really nasty stuff including burning gays
@@hexa1905 Of course! In no way do I deny that or try to pretend it never happened.
But Islam is JUST as much guilty as Christianity. Yet, it appears that Christians can be made fun of all the time, and everyone just laughs. But when it cones to Muslims - they are NOT to be ridiculed in any way. Anyone who DOES question Islam is then considered an Islamaphobe. I mean... REALLY?
You never hear anyone being called a Christianityaphobe. And why the heck not??
And in all honesty, it's getting really dumb that everyone who doesn't like/love and support whichever group of people is already a "phobe". Islamaphobe. Transphobe. I mean, come ON. This is exactly the reason as to why the Right refers to the Left as "snowflakes".
@@cactuscallie5090
islamophobia is beeing effraid of islam. 100% of non-muslim should be because they risk they life denying the words of allah and the pedo warleader phophet
it's in the quoran, "infidel are the worst of creature (..) stike them in the neck wherever you find them"
that's not the same with trans at all
nobody have a true reason to fear them that's only hate.
@@cactuscallie5090 No one talks bad about christianity.Actually christians get extra rights that non christians don't get and they are the most priviliged people in the world
how dARE YOU ISLAM IS MY RELIGON
This is the *EXACT* topic that the LGBT community *SHOULD BE* talking about.
why?
@@mohamedaliouat why you think
I love that you have these difficult, yet necessary, conversations. And that they are ACTUAL conversations. Too many times, we heard "We need to have a conversation" every time a divisive issue comes up, yet it is never followed by an actual conversation. Rather, talking heads argue for a 5 minute segment, spewing talking points, and nothing of substance is learned. Kudos to you, Arielle!❤
People are afraid of islam thats why they can't call it out, hence Islamophobia is moot.
Thank you for addressing this!
Please share!
@@arielle ew. This video is disgusting.
I wish I could watch this video when I was a teenager. I was raised muslim but also had crushes on the same gender. First i hated myself and i was homophobic, fearing what allah would do to me if i went through this "wrong path". It took me a long time to accept that i am different and this religion doesnt suit me. I can lie to everyone but i cant lie to myself. I didnt want to be a hypocrite. I left Islam and never felt more free.
That is why its important to give children a more scientifically based education than religious one. Unfortunately many of the muslim countries still stick to their unproven religious dogmas and despise science and their children turnout to be some of the most backwardly thinking people.
Kudos to you for leaving the cult ❤. Stay safe bud
Aight we'll see how you react on judgement day
@@leexmass we'll see how you'll react on your last breath when u realize you've wasted your life on some stupid book with stupid rules that makes zero sense
@@ck6835 wasted my life? Bro almost everything that Islam forbids harms us like alcohol, drugs, interest, pre marriage sex, etc. I have done everything but waste my life. Even let's say I did, you win in this life we win in the afterlife 😉
I have been saying it for years, but I get called a biggot or worse
Same here! I try to bring awareness about this with lgbt communities I'm in and I get accused of fear mongering!
yeah by now i have embraced my bigotry. I am a bigot.
That's what you deserve
Islamophobia should be called muslimphobia instead. Seperate the followers from religion. Religion is an idea and should be open to criticism
No our religion should never be criticized
@@jynx3978 it should be
@@jynx3978 yeah, "religion of peace".
@@iris1817 "iT sHoULd bE" Lmaoooo no wonder marxism is on the rise and in correlating with how badly uneducated people are today. 😭😭😭😭
@@jynx3978 lmao, your religion is not special to not be criticized. It's just the same as Judaism and Christianity.
Hard to believe that more than 10% gave this video a thumbs down. What the hell is wrong with people?
Ikr I’m always disturbed about the ratio of dislikes to Likes on Videos Concerning LGBT. Most of them must be conservative muslims who are uneducated
its bc our religoun is what we have to follow, we have to follow it no matter what because we were born that religoun. Im a muslim and i dont hate the lgbtq+, the fact that mostly everyone here is hating on Islam shows that people are toxic af.
@@pls8980 it shows that you didn't watch the video*
@@xethrion4758 What about the christians ones ?
@@jynx3978 it’s the same but since this video is about Islam than I just stick to the topic
I'm glad there are people like Arielle in this world that have the courage to keep their convictions and the strength to conversate about the controversial issues.
Wow, very impressed with the direction you've taken this channel in. This is such an important discussion and BALLSY AF of you to upload.
Thank you for this, Arielle. Eye-opening, and what a brave, admirable brother he is xxx
This is one of the most important videos I have ever seen and I am so thankful for it. Thank you Arielle.
Thank you Arielle. You never shy away from telling it as it is! I would love a video about the forced transitions on gay men in Iran. The state pays for them to not have gay men in their society.
There was a tragic, heartbreaking incident in my country (Switzerland) last year in the picturesque Emmental, that gives the famous cheese its name: Pstiwan, a 17-year old Kurdish Muslim boy was almost killed by his own father, when he tried to cut his son’s throat in their family home for being gay. The boy, bleeding heavily, jumped out the window and ran to his neighbours who called emergency services. Pstiwan was flown to the hospital, where he had to be put in a coma so the Doctors could perform emergency surgery to save his life. His father almost cut his carotid artery, his trachea was injured. When you think about the fact that religion and state in most Muslim countries are very interwoven, how this religion’s cultural influence has consequences for gay people like Pstiwan - even after migrating to secular western democracies, there is no denying, that there is something wrong at the root of it all.
Pstiwan decided to make his story public and was consequentially invited to several TV shows and CZcams talks, most of them in Germany. What stunned me is, that he states the opinion, that from his perspective, Islam and homosexuality are clearly incompatible, and these superwoke TV hosts and debate participants just talk over him, always trying to emphasize the examples that show the «other truth», like that one mosque and Imam in Berlin that invite gay Muslims to prayer and what have you. I sat there and imagined what a teenager who almost died because his own FATHER cut his throat - all based on a stupid old book of partly insanely barbaric texts, must feel like when he gets told how super peaceful Islam is! 🤮 You can find numerous articles online about this. At first, his name was changed, but as he started appearing on TV, he began using his real name and has since come out as trans - voicing the wish to transition once he’s worked through the psychological trauma and after the screening doctors do here before getting on hormones (US take notes ... 😬). @pstiwi is his/her Twitter handle, if you want to follow the journey.
The culture and tradition that are set in stone and lived/experienced by a very dominating majority 95%+ of Muslim societies are simply not compatible with being gay. It will take centuries to change that - if it is at all possible (example: German journalist Constantin Schreiber, clearly an open-minded liberal and fluent Arabic speaker wrote a book called The Mosque Report, detailing his visits to random German mosques and how shocked he was by the content of the Imam’s speeches in regard to living in the west, our culture, integration and core values of society). The political overcorrectness of politicians on the left, like our gay MP Angelo Barrile from the Social Democratic Party, refuse to address this because, it doesn’t support their political agenda. «hOmOpHoBia iS nOt a pRoBLeM iN oNLy OnE cULtUrE oR sPeCiFiC tO oNe» - agreed 100%. But the verbal and physical attacks which are not necessarily increasing in numbers but in severity are predominantly - and I’m talking in the realms of 90%+ - committed by young men of patriarchal migrant backgrounds and Muslims are clearly overrepresented while most attacks are directed at gay men and trans women.
It will have to play out like the clan problem in Germany or the grooming gang epidemic in Britain (please watch Tommy Robinson’s Oxford Union Adress, it is a punch in the gut). The political climate in western nations is so explosive as the superwoke dictate the discourse through cancel culture to the point, where public figures especially in politics divert the issue, scared of losing their job and reputation until the problem is so obvious, so prevalent that you can’t deny it any more and we’re past the point of having the ability to react. Just an example: in Berlin, the district attorney had to change the law to seize 70 objects of real estate, that had been purchased with laundered money from one single family clan, active in organised crime with several thousand family members living in Germany.
I am not an islamophobe - on the contrary! I have family in Tunisia who live a very progressive Islam but even there, homophobia causes problems. My Cousine just got divorced after being married for three years, because it turned out her husband was gay and lied about it. She says for her, him being gay is not the problem, there is an underground gay scene in Tunis and even in smaller urban centres like Sousse where you can live your sexuality if you’re careful. The problem is, that society and the laws are still homophobic enough, even in a westernised progressive Muslim country, that is governed democratically since the Jasmine Revolution, that the consequences lead to suffering for everyone.
If you’re interested in these things, I really recommend the books by the gay English author Douglas Murray, an Oxford scholar who wrote my literary beacons of light in recent years «The strange Death of Europe» and the «Madness of Crowds». If you agree with Arielle’s content on Trans issues and other heavily politicised and omnipresent topics like the problem with Islam, they will be your read of the decade!
Love you Arielle 💕
I’d love to see a video on that. People often use that to defend Iran and say that it’s not against LGBT while it so clearly is
Reham Taay preach! 💯🙏🏻
The contributions of gay people have changed the world for the better. Where would we be without Alan Turing?
The art, music and literature.
I mean, their sexuality isn't really a part of that. You could say the same about people whose favorite color is green.
@@nthgth But simply Charlie is just saying on how Gays are still human and that they can contribute to the good of society
@@xethrion4758 Again, that can be said about any group of people. It's a tautology. Gay _people_ are people.
@@nthgth yes Gay people are still humans. I Hate the homophobia. Makes me feel sick
@@nthgthexactly! They didnt do it *because* theyre gay, they did it simply because they possessed the knowledge to do it. I have no idea what we have to make being gay an entire personality trait. We have got to stop celebrating people for whatever they do and everywhere they go simple _because_ they’re gay.
I worked for a small family business that hired mostly people from within their culture (Arab) who originated from countries throughout the Middle East.
I soon learned that the thing they all had in common, was that they were Christian, and had fled to Canada to escape persecution in their own countries.
Turns out that a lot of them hid their Christian faith in their home countries, and had to leave when they were ousted as it became too dangerous.
The stories they told were heart wrenching. One of them told me a story about how they saw their Christian neighbours being dragged out of their house in the middle of the night, mother, father, and 8 year old daughter. They were beaten in the street, and then doused with gasoline and lit on fire.
Holy shit are you serious? What country was that in? The lighting on fire i mean...
The US did that too. We called that period the Salem Witch Trials. There's also the Crusades, if going back further into Christianity. People should just stop setting each other on fire.
J The witch trials happened long ago. She's talking about something very recently. Islam is way behind.
@@clementines3322 😐🤣
@@user-xp5jz6dh5y except that was in the 1600's and the 1500's for both events . This is the 21 century !
If i bring this up im immediately attacked and called islamophobic, it's very hard to even talk about this
Same omg
Don’t forget that African countries are starting to pass laws against homosexuals
I am so very blessed that the Muslims in my family accept me. My sexuality, my tattoos, my choices in attire, all of it. It'd be very different if they hadn't come to the US, I'd think.
You are a very lucky person 💕
VERY VERY LUCKY
*My main problem with the rainbow argument is that every single reason they give to try and justify it can be used for every other sexual scenario too.*
*Two consenting adults: Adultery is between two consenting adults.*
*It's found in the animal kingdom: Pedophilia and rape are also found in the animal kingdom*
*It's not a choice: Necrophilia is a mental disorder therefore not a choice*
*It can be safe if you use protection: Incest can be "safe" if you use protection.*
*Love is love no matter who it's for: So if you want to love someone's over, it's all fine?*
@@starhunter9085 sexual orientation and fetishes are very different. consent and adults are the keywords, and love is love no matter the gender but don't change the context into rape or something unconsensual. The whole premise of the lgbtq+ community is about being able to accept attraction towards someone of the same sex or something along the lines of that spectrum as well as being able to accept one's gender identity.
@@choerrysmaid6299 *You missed my point, since these arguments can be applied to other scenarios that are purr verted, we can't base our morals off of those standards. So these argument can't be used to justify rainbowism.*
Great video! So glad you have the courage to discuss any topic.
Two muslim classmates of mine who dislike each other shaked each other's hands just because both of them were homophobic. Straight to our faces.
Thank you for having these conversations.
Thanks for showing the fun fact that one can't shout "racism" when someone is critiquing religion, because it's not logic 💚
Fun fact: I studied sociology and at one point, in a seminar about racism and the connection to xenophobia,we were given a test to see if we were "having Muslim phobia", and back then I thought it was weird, because I scored to suffer from "Muslim phobia", because I crossed "yes" that I do believe this religion was surpressive towards women and homosexuals. I felt suddenly "guilty" and "uncomfortable" because I was raised in a humanitarian family and suddenly I was put in a corner from left winged teachers that I am xenophobic and probably an unaware racist. This was 20 years ago and it kind of hit me how ridiculous it was back then already..
Great conversation! 🙌🏼💗
Here's something that people need to grasp.
Islam is Homophobic.
But some Muslims aren't Homophobic. Despite their religion some do understand and respect that some people are LGBT. The Quran also says not to judge people and treat them with respect.
@Movieclips
Yuck. Then that's messed up.
Can you share with me the exact line that says that?
We should not be trusting ancient scriptures like the Quran and Bible completely because they are ancient and many parts of it are barbaric.
Islam isnt homophobic, some Muslims are
@@AWlpsSHOW36 no, its NOT true killing is absolutely wrong in Islam, without a valid reason, and thats a invalid reason
doesnt the quran also say that lgbtq+ is haram?
@@BippityBoppityQuandaleDingleII Isn't that what I said? Islam is Honophobic because the Quran said that sexual acts between both sexes are a sin?
Blimey you're brave. Just keep yourself safe after making these videos. It's admirable what you're doing xx
I was borned in an Islamic country...I was raised in a muslim family and I am queer and I'm telling you, you can NOT be muslim and also queer. Because if you are, like me, Islam doesn't believe you are a human anymore and no one in your community will NOT, EVER, accept you!
It is awful...
I have so many friends that are both homosexual and bisexual and also homophobe therefore they hate themselves and hate their sexuality and the people they love...
I was in a relationship with a girl that loved me so much and hated it every single day because she didn't want to leave Islam behind!
It's horible...for all of us...
The death penalty is not even the worst of our problems because we can be careful in public and never kiss or hold hands...the worst part is never being able to come put to your family or be proud of your love and...yeah! It's awful
Abolish Christianity and Abolish Islam
the Lord laughs at the wicked
If only:( but it's unlikely it will happen soon
@@hathoramedia you make assumptions without knowing me. Man you are a case aren't you... Well hope you will grow up one day.
@@labranehit7687 why r u trying to abolish my religion bro
@@Lucerna999 because I don't see it as a positive thing in the world. I have no problems with beliefs, but religions that contradict the observable world and dubious morals? Not a fan of those.
I wish we could have these conversations all the time. We need to have differing opinions and be open to listen to differing opinions, that’s how learning happens. We don’t all have to agree with everyone, that’s what makes life interesting, living in a bubble of people that agree 100% of the time has to be really boring.
Wait, you want a healthy conversation/debate with different opinions on CZcams .... You're asking for a lot
XD
I am so glad and thankful, that I love in a country, where Islam is declawed.
Yeah great bro but what are we supposed to do
I am a muslim. Gay stuff is not allowed, and has never been allowed. Due to how meticulously the scriptures are preserved, it will never be allowed either.
@Ria kura more like common sense
@Ria kura yes; so
so what?
Sad that Muslims will always be backwards then, as a consequence of preserving ancient beliefs.
Good to know you openly uphold this harmful sht. Makes it easier to stay tf away...
If the concept of “patriarchy“ is currently foundational in any religion/culture, past and present, it would be Islam.
Thank you for talking about this. I hate how it's ok to call out Christians for their beliefs, but no other religion can be called to the court. If it's wrong for 1 religion, it's wrong for all.
hahaha thats what they deserve
it should never happens to muslims
@@ZainMohammed2005 your life is a joke
I’m so grateful that you called this issue out
I've been saying this for years! And if I may expand on it, (none LGBT included) even amongst atheists they always have out Christianity, but they never call out the religion of Islam because of "islamophobia". But also at the same secular and I think they also agree with that religion. Even though they try to say they don't but at the same not saying something seems like you condone it.
What a sweet and kind soul. Loved his thoughtful comments.
I love him! Jimmy, keep doing your great work!
Videos like this need to be made 👏🏼
When it comes down to it Christianity has gotten a bit of a secularization in a way That Islam hasn’t gotten.
Have you seen Saudi... Materialistic as you can get.
@@richardsaintjohn8391 materialistic sure but they still practice sunni Islam which is the same sect certain terrorist groups practice
@@hoopsonwheels Secularism is bad
@@jynx3978 no it’s not it’s better than theocracy by a mile and a half
I had no idea that people in the US had to hide this way.
I'm so sorry for how people have suffered through this. I will offer more openness and friendship to people, incase they need someone to turn to in such dark times in their lives.
Now THIS is stunning and brave.
It's not tho
@@atgyoutube3088 yh its like my religioun we have to follow it idk why ppl r thanking this grandma women for no reason when itts what we have to follow
@@pls8980 see you've just said it, "we have to follow it" this means your forced to follow it and this gives you no right to Force others to follow it too, you're calling this women a grandma or whatever bs you've said when you're following a relegion with no proof on anything written in it
@@Cation_bibliophile man we can respect the lgbtq+ comunity but we cant be in it yk the ppl who r muslim and dont respect it r u doing something bad thats not good in our religioun. the title looks like it says Islam is homophobic, it looks like she's saying the whole religion in homophobic which clearly is a lie some ppl r most r good.
@KQRO that's a hate crime in some places. I wouldn't do it but that's your freedom to express your beliefs
Arielle - I ADORE you and all of your guests!
Very impressed by Jimmy and what he is doing, great work!
I wish this video had a 'double thumbs up' button! I am a Christian who believes God LOVES homosexuals. I do not understand why the far left calls out christians for being homophobic while being silent about the extreme homophobia, and misogyny in Islam. Excellent video Arielle!
I believe that too. If God made us, and He doesn't make mistakes, then He loves ALL of us.
Not enough money in it, that's why.
@greenviolets1 Good point. Jesus never spoke out against homosexuals. I did not know it was Muhammed who said that, Very interesting.
*My main problem with the rainbow argument is that every single reason they give to try and justify it can be used for every other sexual scenario too.*
*Two consenting adults: Adultery is between two consenting adults.*
*It's found in the animal kingdom: Pedophilia and rape are also found in the animal kingdom*
*It's not a choice: Necrophilia is a mental disorder therefore not a choice*
*It can be safe if you use protection: Incest can be "safe" if you use protection.*
*Love is love no matter who it's for: So if you want to love someone else's lover, it's all fine?*
The original Bolshevik Revolution in 1917 had a very gay friendly set of laws . But they did not last . And that should be discussed . But despite YOUR beliefs , the Christian religion is quite clear in its doctrines , whether Catholic or Protestant . If youre gay , youre not on the guest list .
As an ex Muslim, I'm glad Arielle had the guts to bring this up. While many on the left and in the LGBTQ+ community continue to shy away from it.
Can i ask why did you leave islam?
Nobody cares if ur an ex Muslim
@@drok836 Then why make a comment?
many people leave islam bc they see how other people practice and get confused, many people forget to read the actual quran, i also don't know if you are an actual ex muslim because lot's of "ex muslims" aren't actually they just say that bc they are Islamophobic
@@topheeba it's Anti-LGBT that's Why, besides it's His/Her choice
I’m a deemed leftist but learning more from your videos. This is a very good video. I think it’s important to back away from hypocrisy and the double standard like you said. We need to stop picking sides about who gets a pass and who doesn’t and identify the issues everywhere as a whole
It's really hypocritical how liberals and leftists attack Christianity for 'homophobia' yet completely ignore the homophobia in Islam.
Even atheists have a hard time calling out the blatant sexism and homophobia of Islam!
Like who? I'm not saying I don't believe you. I just feel like atheists (like myself, Bill Maher, and Sam Harris) are among the first to call it out.
@@Criner05 I am Hindu and Our religion ain't homophobic
IT WAS MIDDLE EAST NOT ISLAM WHY YOU KEEP DOING THIS IM DYING
@@Amentiople
(7:80) And remember when We sent Lot [as a Messeng to his people and he said to them:63 'Do you realize you practise an indecency of which no other people in the world were guilty of before you? (7:81) You approach men lustfully in place of women. You are a people who exceed all bounds.'64 (7:82) Their only answer was: 'Banish them from your town. They are a people who pretend to be pure.' 65 (7:83) Then We delivered Lot and his household save his wife who stayed behind,66 (7:84) and We let loose a shower [of stones] upon them,67 Observe, then, the end of the evil-doers.68
"the end of the evil doers".
This man is so eloquent and courageous. Thank you for having him on.
Thank you for covering this. Gods bless.
Great info in this video, thanks for sharing.
Thank you so much for bringing attention to this! Things are happening. Proud to be part of the exmuslim community.
Thank you for leaving the cult and speaking up
*My main problem with the rainbow argument is that every single reason they give to try and justify it can be used for every other sexual scenario too.*
*Two consenting adults: Adultery is between two consenting adults.*
*It's found in the animal kingdom: Pedophilia and rape are also found in the animal kingdom*
*It's not a choice: Necrophilia is a mental disorder therefore not a choice*
*It can be safe if you use protection: Incest can be "safe" if you use protection.*
*Love is love no matter who it's for: So if you want to love someone's over, it's all fine?*
@@findingPerdition I hate people who call it a cult
@@findingPerdition Muslims are a cult? wtf
@@pigwidgeon3886 Look up the definition of a cult. "a misplaced or excessive admiration for a particular person or thing.
"a cult of personality surrounding the leaders""
I do security at a swingers club and on bisexual night you can't move for the number of Muslim men who come in. They tend to be gay men who were forced into an arranged marriage to save the family honour. The number increases every month. It's really funny when you ask to see the driving license to prove they are over 18 and they register as Mr. Smith. That said afterwards we have to call in the professional deep cleaners.
By contrast we do have a small number of Hindu and Sikh bisexual men come in but they come in with their super supportive wives. They go into different rooms though.
I was talking about this to my friends today and they did not believe me!!! thank you for the info! I hope this video can make them see the truth...
Well yeah , I'm a Muslim and I'm saying it is .Christianity is also homophobic but at least we are honest
Based
Fascinating.
Then why all the BS about Palestine/Palestinians when your own leaders in rare moments have admitted it's fiction to stir unrest.
Most christians aren’t homophobic. The ones that are might just give a funny look to a gay person when they see them, but in most muslim countries they will openly kill or imprison gay people. Christians aren’t perfect, no religion is, but at least they try to understand gay people and treat them with warmth and kindness, most muslims treat them as if they aren’t even human beings. If your god tells you to treat another human being like garbage, that’s actually the devil.
@KQRO nah you not
this hits harder today with the "queers for palestine" bulls*it....
As a Christian, I am VERY careful about criticizing other religions because I don’t like it when people trash mine. I do know there are kind, loving Muslims out there who will never hurt or bully a gay person.
However, it bothers me how everyone hates Christians for disagreeing with homosexuality but nobody cares about Islam teaching the same thing. Everyone hated the Christian baker in the gay wedding case, but what if the baker was Muslim?
We would have still been pissed, I don't care if you're Muslim, Christian, Hindu, Sikh anything else, if you're homophobic you're shitty.
@@sweetyyoongs7934 yasss
I’m islamic, although I don’t fully practice it, I think that’s because most countries that have lgbt rights are Christian, so they’d have more people who identify as part of this community. But personally I don’t understand why anyone would have a problem with any religion for the way it was created centuries ago, the scriptures say so, that’s how it was created, that’s all, simple
You are not hated as much as you think you are stop being paranoid
Both Islam and Christianity should be criticized, since they share mostly the same core values. Criticism is not the same as persecution. Also, what Islam is doing now, Christianity did not so long ago. And judging by some believers and their hateful discourse, it could happen again anytime now.
I agree with you but I hate the phrase "the left". People have varying opinions regardless of their political leanings
"The left" has changed. I used to call myself leftwing. I haaaated the rightwing. But the parties have flipped. Now its t he "right wing" who promote freedom and equal treatment under the law... And its the "left wing" who promotes tyranny, violence, racism, hate, etc.
@@terminsane Both the left and the right are way too vast to generalize. I consider myself a moderate liberal. The far-left keeps pushing me towards the center but I still identify as a liberal even though I acknowledge certain things like there are only two genders, gender is not a social construct, Islam is homophobic, and you shouldn't believe all women when it comes to accusations of sexual misconduct.