selfmade wooden Tail Vise, Workbench Part III
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- čas přidán 4. 07. 2024
- Making a wooden Tail-Vise, also called "Wagon-Vise" for my carpenters workbench. A big self made wooden thread, screw and bolt made with my self-made tools, and all the necessary mechanic. 99% of the material is wood from our own forest. Mostly hand-tools and few machines.
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00:00 preparing the bench top & dovetailed front
01:52 rails for the wagon
04:23 thread-making - bolt & screw
11:50 assembling
Here you find some of my SCREWS ON SALE:
www.etsy.com/de/shop/LittleFo...
Before coming to this Tail Vise, i took my time to get known with Thread-making. I used different woodspecies, soaked for shorter or longer time in natural linseed oil, turned at once or in sections. To soak them at least one week has been a good test for my patience. For the wood-species: Alder and Birch turn out very well, also Mountains-Ash seems to be good, but bit more difficult. It tends to get ripped. I´ll keep on trying, as it is so nice wood!
If you are interested in how the tools for the threads are made, just take a look; i made a video on each tools:
Tap: • Selfmade Tools for Woo...
Dye or ScrewBox: • Self-made Tools for Wo...
As you might have seen, i did not use my Dowel-Maker this time. Like so often in life things get better, when we trust and allow simplicity. In this case, to just use a plane. It worked very well, more accurate and without any tear out.
And here is, how i made the Leg-Vise:
• DIY Wooden Leg Vise, W...
Hopefully this video will be of some use or inspiration for your own projects.
If you have any questions, just write it into the comments. - Zábava
Here you find of my SCREWS ON SALE:
www.etsy.com/de/shop/LittleForestSuomi?ref=seller-platform-mcnav
I love this, both the craftsmanship and the video style/editing. You've made me consider doing this instead of buying a metal vice screw
Nice hear - than my goal has been achieved :-)
Hopefully it works out well!
This is the most beautiful work, a joy to watch.
True craftmanship!
I love how the nut and side rail is wedged in place, true craftsmanship. Great job.
I was a residential "stick" framer and interior trim carpenter for 20 years before my accident. I never used hand tools much except the basics. I wish there was a cabinet shop close by that had an opening. I would love to get back to carpentry work. I am wheelchair bound, but still very strong and able to a lot. I believe I will start looking for a cabinet job. Your skills are on a whole other level than 99% of us regular carpenters. Especially your home-made tools, engineering level sir!
I wish you have found what you've been looking for😊
I’m laughing and crying, such beautiful craftsmanship, my Norwegian grandfather was also a master woodworker and one uncle. This brings such a great feeling to watch this, so much meaning, thank you so much!!!
My grandfather from Oslo, Norway was also a master woodworker. I think about him every time I use his old tools. And I agree that this is amazing content and truly inspiring. 🙂
It's such a joy to see you work lovingly and unhurried, and amazing video shooting and editing as well!
Absolutely beautiful. I would much rather have a handmade piece of art like this than a factory manufactured vice.
Hello Piranha :-)
Would you like to get one of these screws?
I have been bit updating my tools and some screws are in process. I thought to try to sell them. So, if you are interested, just let me know!
@@littleforest- thank you so much for your offer. Yes, I am interested. Please keep me informed when you are ready. Thanks again😀
It has taken it's time, but finaly my first screw sets are ready for sale. You can find them using following link:
www.etsy.com/de/shop/LittleForestSuomi?ref=seller-platform-mcnav§ion_id=37453671
If you have further questions, you will find there a link to mail me.
Incradible work.
i like how you made the vice screw ,others i have seen have very loose threads , greatvideo
very nice. love the screw, large strong threads.
C' est formidablement bien exécuté avec les gestes précis et précieux d'un artisan qui aime son art et le possède complètement. De plus, avec un travail d'une telle précision, ni visses ni colle ne sont nécessaires. Les queues d'aronde suffisent à maintenir le tout bien en place. Bravo et Respects !!!
Part of me died when you broke out the power drill! :) Seriously though… beautiful work!!!
Sorry for that! Hopefully you recovered from the shock ;-)
Wow, echt super gemacht. Gefällt mir total😊
Stunned by your accuracy with the frame saw. I've always thought that they look cumbersome, admittedly having never used one.
Maybe not the easiest tool to got used to. But with some training I like it more and more..
So wonderful, the tail vice completely made by handcraft, I am so impressed! Thanks for this video!
Servus!!
Schön zu hören. Ich bin noch an der Vorderzange dann. Leider muss ich mir zwischendurch ein kleines Werkzeug bestelle, und so zieht sich das ganze etwas in die Länge. Hoffentlich wird es genau so gut funktionieren, wie die Hinterzange.
Liebe Grüsse in das schöne Österreich!!
Superbe travail !
Merci du partage.
Jean-Paul
Real craftsmanship and a multi-generational workbench.
Thanx! And if now one will want to have it, than it is fully biodegradable. Just need to remove these little screws there..
Craftsmanship at it's finest!!!
Congrats 💯% 👍🇬🇧.
Nice! Been wanting to do my own tap and die for a wood screw for years I just never get there. Looks good
Ahhh, that wonderful feeling of ''YES! I knew it would work. Uh, ok, now what do I do? FFS, why do I always forget why I did all of this as soon as I've reached 'THE NEXT STEP'? I know I had something in mind to do after this point, there WAS a reason for all of this!''. Earth. Being human. Gotta love it. Great job on the vise! Well documented.
Beautiful, joy of wood(working)
This looks like art to me, amazing, thank you for posting
You're extremely under subscribed for someone quite so good. These are fantastic videos. Would have liked a little "link in top corner" for the screw box etc, but otherwise it was perfect. I think there's a high percentage chance I'll be subscribing. Approximately 100%.
Hello Rico. Thank you for your comment. There is a question coming up to me: You mentioned the missing links in top corner. I have put there these links. Do they not appear on your screen? For me, they only appear when watching on my computer, not on my phone.
I just ask, cause there are many similar comments reaching me.
Hope, this did not come too late.
Thank you for your help in advance!
@@littleforest hi, yes I just watched again on my phone and the links appear. I'm certain I checked twice before posting, but perhaps I was having on off day! I'll blame CZcams!
One word mate .... Magnificent!
Лайк! Трудоемкая ручная работа. Я бывший токарь профессионал, проработавший на разных станках, могу оценить ваш труд. Здоровья вам и удачи!!!
спасибо вам большое! желаю вам сил в это трудное время. Оставайтесь здоровыми и безопасными. Всего наилучшего!
@@littleforest Спасибо!
Works of a true master in hand tool wood working! Amazing!
You have very good tools, here where I live it's almost impossible to find quality tools, and when you do, it costs a small fortune. 😂 🇧🇷
By the flag I see you are from Brazil. Surprised that there is no good tool. In Russia, we have at least heaps of tools, for every taste, color and wallet.
That screwbox works amazingly well. Only it's handles could be much longer, it seems.
I was really waiting for this video. I need to build a vise for my bench and I'm going to try and copy your design. You make it seem easy but I know it isn't. It will take a few attempts for sure. Inspiring work, really!
Yes, it took bit longer than expected. And, you are right, it looks quite easy in this video. Not, that i hide some mistakes, but there is need to select, what to show and what to skip to not get it too long and boring. I´m keeping on finishing also the leg-vise and will share it here. Hopefully it will be of some use!
Those are such beautiful threads! Awesome Job!
Wow this is really cool! You are inspiring me to get into more woodworking and more creativity in general. Thanks so much for this video!
Your vids are are amazing
Fine workmanship. It is a joy to watch you work. Thank You for another exceptional video. I enjoy your work and techniques. I learn a lot every time I watch one of your videos. I also appreciate your clear videography and skipping a bunch of repetitive tasks. You had me fooled for a minute when you stated you were going to warm things up. I thought you were going to show us an unknown trick like the threading goes much better when the screw is warmed up to 150 degrees. I do have one suggestion, pvc pipe comes in a number of different sizes and end caps are made for all sizes. You could use less oil to soak the screw in a smaller pipe. I know you are going to reuse the leftover oil , I guess that’s a reflection of my upbringing and not wasting anything. Thank You again, greetings from Maine.
Thank you for this detailed feedback!
I´ll keep on finishing this project and sharing it here. Some surprises came up, and it will take bit more time.
But by the way, i have actually been thinking of really heating this whole thing! I guess, that the oil would penetrate much faster and easier. Maybe i´ll try it one day.
That's great stuff. I want to really have the layout and dimensions I'm going to use for a wagon vice before I begin laminating the surface, so that I can build it right in. Watching it done by hand is a big help compared to just reading about it, or seeing people do similar but not quite the same things. I think yours is pretty much exactly what I'm going for.
Nice to know, that people are not just watching it, but that some inspiration for own projects has passen by :-) Good luck for your bench!!
Podoba mi się twoja mistrzowska praca.
Beautiful work
С удовольствием наблюдаю за вашей работой. Приятный звук у ручного инструмента.
Спасибо, это меня очень радует!
Amazing work! Very well done! Thank you for that video. It's a pleasure to watch. =)
Danke, und schön, dass es Dir etwas gegeben hat!
Gedichte auf CZcams!? Muss ich mir mal bei Gelegenheit ansehen / anhören. Beste Grüsse von hier!
@@littleforest mach das gerne =)
Ganz liebe Grüße auch von hier. =)
Excellent work.
Btw, loved the pace of the video too, no annoying music, no jokes, no ads, views were neat and explicit, the whole was very relaxing, unlike most contemporary survolted videos on hysterical editing. Keep going such a good work !
Oh, nice to hear that you like it. Thanx. I'll do my best ;-)
CHŁOPIE JESTEŚ WIELKI ! -
Dude you are great !
awesome work, well done
_heck of a job_
WOW !!!
Such beautiful work! Bravo! I'm jealous of your cabin in the snow. Though I should have my cabin among the olives some time soon.
Beautiful work and dedication. Will that little piece of plywood (retainer clip) hold up after many uses and pressure put on it? Seems like a tremendous amount of work to undo and replace that delicate piece. Let me know.
I'm so glad that someone is continuing the traditions of handcraft. Keep up the good work.
Hello Roy!
The bench is now in use since one and half year and the plywood is doing great. It is kind of coated with some hard and very plane/gliding stuff. I will move the bench the next weeks and therefore put it in pieces, so i get the chance to take a closer look.
All the best to you!
Amazing work sir 😊
Very nice hand work.
Магия классической столярки! Молодец парень!
Fantastic
excelente. felicitaciones. Cortes muy preciosos y muy limpios. 👍👍👍👏👏👏
Thank you for sharing
Excellent work! RWB
Thanks a lot! Very good!
Esto es carpintería al más alto nivel.
Parabéns! Magnífico trabalho!
Linseed oil, ok. Thank you.
Well done
Hammer Fase!
Wonderful
Beautiful work! Video was well paced. It would be interesting to see more about construction of the screw box, etc. in a separate video. And why soak the shaft for a week? What does that accomplish? Was it really necessary?
Made my second threaded 1 inch maple dowel today for a moxon vise. It sure does come out with basically no tare out using a smoothing plane but it took me a while. Did it free hand and just kept comparing it to the 1inch hole on the threader, it comes off, till it slid all the way through.
Respect from Germany...
Excelente muy bueno 👍
Inspirational, as always.
Inmenso!!
Can you make wooden screw and wooden bolt to sale them.
Thank-you they look awesome.
Hello :-) The first ones are ready. You find them with following link:
www.etsy.com/de/shop/LittleForestSuomi?ref=seller-platform-mcnav§ion_id=37453671
If you have further questions, you can write me through etsy.
What's next? Self made MRI machine out of Poplar?
Это просто великолепно!!!
Perfeito !! 👍👍🏆🏆🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
Такую красоту в музей а не для работы
Great !!!! .
very gooooooood ;)
I tried to pack this quite complex project into short time. How do you feel? Was it bit too fast, should it be bit slower? Do you have any other suggestions? I am thankful for any feedback! Thanx in advance :-)
If you're going completely without narration you might have to tighten stuff up even more. Without a voice to listen to my ADHD brain at least got lost quickly ;)
I thought it was well paced!!! I suggest putting it in the video itself that you made a video on the screwbox and tap because as I was watching, I was thinking exactly that - wish he would show how he made it. (just to get those who don't think to look down at the comments!) Also, you could even add the setup of what you're about to do, like mounting the wood to turn it into a dowel, so people can see the complete process and get a better idea of an effective way to set up. But that's just me! Hehe Loved it!
This is a case where the beauty of the wood and the geste speak for itself, reminds me of Mr Chickadee, just miss the cat ;c)
Way too fast !
Your craftsmanship speaks for itself. Very instructive , thank you for sharing.
Nice work and some nice birch lumber.
Can you tell me the source to buy your frame saw blade(s)?
Here you go:
www.tischler-bedarf.com/search?sSearch=s%C3%A4geblatt
Your work is truly an inspiration to me: I think your series of videos on how to thread wood by hand is the clearest and most comprehensive. Congratulations.
Only one thing I don't understand and I would like you to explain it to me: why didn't you thread the mobile piece and block the screw with a plate? In this way it would have moved back and forth only the mobile piece and not the screw...
Hei Matteo!
Good to hear, that you got inspired and my videos are of some use for you.
Your question, is a good question!
I have been thinking of this for a while and than decided to do it in the way i did because it makes it possible to put the benchdog (is it called like this? This small roundwood?) in the middle of the wagon. If i would have put the thread inside, i could not have drilled a whole deep enough for this benchdog. A second thought was: There would have been need to put the plywood on the other end, and this plywood would have been carrying all the force. I thought, that the other way is somehow stronger.
But now, hm, maybe it would be better the way you mentioned. I am sure, that there are solutions for these two problems...
Are you building a similar thing??
@@littleforest Well, yes, I'm trying to build a Roubo-style bench: I've laminated the top with four 12 cm thick spruce slabs (yes I know, not the ideal wood but it's cheap and very popular here in Italy), flattened it and put it on sawhorses and now I'm thinking about the tail vise. Here there are 2 possibilities: a metal vice (not the prettiest solution but it gives me a working and usable vise right away) or a proper tail vise like yours. But before sawing the top I'm thinking about the various possibilities.
Your objections are very clever but I think I have some suggestions:
1) dog hole: true, you can't bore a deep dog hole in the middle of the moving part but you can bore two of them on its sides.. If you're planing a large board it's non a problem but if you're planing a narrow strip you can simply place another small strip of wood in front of the two dogs to hold the piece you're planing. Not very pretty but it should work..
2) holding plate: you cannot use plywood. Metal here is the way to go. I think that a 4-5 mm thick brass plate is better because it's not so hard and you can bore it even with a hole saw and a brace..
What do you think?
@matteo
Hey Matteo!
Two advantages of the thread NOT into the wagon came up:
- This makes it possible to make the wagon much smaller than if there is the thread inside. Mine is about 7 cm, so also the "whole" in my workbench is just 7 cam large. If i would have put the Thread inside i would have needed at least maybe 10 cm or so.
- These days, when i ripcut a long piece of wood, i put it into the tailvise. There it is not straight up, 90°, but slightly leaning backwards. Somehow the sawing goes smoother. This would not be possible, if the thread would be there on the way. Hope, this was understandable. Otherwise, you will see it in my next video, which is soon ready.
Hopefully this was somehow helpful for your own workbench :-)
Merci
Would love to see how you made the tap and screwbox!
Im sorry! I noticed you already made a video of how to make them. I was just too quick to comment :) Love your workspace by the way!
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great job well done. Can you please tell me what the thickness of thread is? I am thinking to make another wooden tail vise
its 60 mm outside, 40 mm inside. If you like, there are videos about how to make these threads and the needed tools. You´ll find them in my other videos.
Magnificent tools!
Just one question: wouldn't be safer to cut the screw in more than one pass using an adjustable cutter? Not sure it'd be worth the trouble though, unless you made dozens of them!
Hello:)
It would be good idea, but it is not possible. If interested, check the Videos i made about the tools themself and you will und erstand.
All the besteht!
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Is that motor oil or cooking oil?
What is the piece that looks like a small threaded block with the shape of a trapezoid next to the beam of the handle? I do not understand.
Watch carefully, it is shown in the video..
Cool! What kind of oil did you use?
Its just boiled linseed oil.
@@littleforest, thank you.
Kinda puzzled to why you affixed the screw to the wagon dog vs. the table? isn't it annoying having the handle move outwards when retracting it?
Hello Taylor. The disadvantage about my choice is like you have written. Specially in a small workshop it might be really annoying. But there is also an advantage: wood can be fixed inside, which would not be possible if the screw would be there. I find it specially helpful while cutting boards along the grain. You can see me using this in some of my videos, for example the frame-saw. Maybe it is than more clear.
@@littleforest interesting, i never thought of using one like that! Thanks for the reply. It is beautiful work for sure.
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Hello, What is the width of your workbench, it looks really thick !!
It is about 11 cm thick and about 60 cm deep.
@@littleforest Thank you !
What kind of chisels do you have and what kind of pants are you wearing. XD
Different ones mostly found in my grandpas workshop, FHB carpenter pants.
note do not use your hand as a hammer - over time it damages the wrist and nerves
you make Mr. Chickadee look like a whiny cry-baby .... just joking, you are both purists i love to see succeed.
You ask too much of your new friend 2:47 A finer cut will be easier on both of you and you will gain more control. # small cuts are better than one big cut, especially in birch.
Which cut do you mean??
Man I think you need to get a lathe
nah, he should make one.
Hmmm, i mean, he managed well witbout 😊
Useless, get a metal one, lasts 50 years, wood one one week.
Seems, you have never used one, or yours was of poor quality...
At least, I made very different experience as you describe, with my screws.
WOW !!!