Pinnacle's £500 Smart Trainer is Perfect for Indoor Training
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- čas přidán 10. 02. 2022
- Evans Cycles' Pinnacle has launched a brand new direct drive smart trainer which costs £500, much cheaper than many other similar smart trainers. In this video I put it through its paces to see what it's like and talk about the benefits of smart trainers
In association with Evans Cycles who had no editorial input into this video and viewed in on general release. You can find out more about the new Pinnacle HC trainer here bit.ly/3JazCNV
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That looks great, David, and as a user of one in the '80s, I'd be up for long sessions with a box set of Tour tapes on VHS--and I enjoyed your mentioning how we used to entertain ourselves and prepare for the races ahead. It was fun and It was a challenge to ride in their wake.
Just bought this after seeing your Tweet about it being reduced to £70.00! Been using a Tacx turbo trainer and wanted to get a smart trainer and this seemed to good a deal to turn down!
Myself and at least three other people I know have jumped on this deal. Seemed too good to be true!
Same jumped too
Me too! Thanks to Dave for highlighting the amazing deal.
I and about 5 others in my club bought one too for £70. Arrived today and looks the part 🙏
I'm also lucky enough to have bagged this bargain. Quick q.. how do I pair it with my Garmin 510? I've used the 6 digit ID off the sticker on the side of the trainer but the Garmin keeps saying it's not found. Any ideas?
Great review as usual David. Looks like a great option for those who are just getting in to home training.
David - thanks for this... It is nice to see that the prices of some - albeit off-brand - smart direct drive trainers are coming down now - - I'm still on a Kickr Snap which I feel is one of the best on-wheel smart trainers and will continue with it until prices come down a bit more on the brand name units - I worry a bit about service and parts availability here in Japan on the non name brand stuff even though the prices are attractive and availability is getting better in EU and the US...
Thank you, David. Helpful review. 💪💪👍👍
Thanks for the video, I've just picked one up for £210 from Evans !!
Thanks for this. Looks great value. Cheaper than putting a power meter on my road bike too!
Hi David, thanks for the informative review - excellent content as ever. As someone who’s new to turbo trainers and wants to start, can you advise whether any cassette can be used with this product (Shimano, Campag etc.). Once fitted, do you ever need to change gear or do you simply stick to one (mid range) gear and allow the trainer to do the rest? Thanks to you or anyone else for some advice.
This is a good design like the Kickr Core, I’d argue do you need anything better? The only trainer that has my future interest is the Oreka O7, however no current reviews I can find (also can run without mains!)
Let's hope either DC Rainmaker or Shane Miller put it through their accuracy tests...
Because testing it against other trainers really shows accuracy right? Consistency is the key thing with power meters and smart trainers and that that provide consistent and repeatable data
@@davidarthur If you're using a trainer for training, rather than say fun (Zwift?), then I want to know my interval really is 220w and not 240 or 200. So yes, accuracy is very important! Their testing can also reveal some gremlins that may not be apparent at first. It's all about dragging competition and standards higher IMO.
True - but how do you truly know what 200 watts is? Which trainer is really the most accurate. All those overlay graphs of different trainers and power meters tell you is how they compare relative to each other, and relies on an assumption that a certain brand or product is the most accurate
@@davidarthur Exactly, how a new Trainer compares to the current crop!! There's no assumption, but years of testing from both of them so they are able to pitch a new product against a know datum point. And that's the the crux, do I want to spend a fair chunk of money based on a real life test against a known datum, or take for read what the marketing says and hope?
Don't get me wrong, I welcome new, lower priced, in-house badged products. But, they must perform as promised and this is what these 2 chaps are able to tell us.
@@davidarthur I think I remember Shane / GP Lama saying some time ago in order to test a given Trainers accuracy and set a baseline for comparison he did test the Power values for a known trainer by placing a weight on a crank spindle to get a accurate datum point and has compared other / future trainers against that... So I do think that there is a way to actually test or zero the accuracy...
All that being said I TOTTALY AGREE with your sentiment - for 98% of all riders / trainers - CONSISTENCY is the only thing that matters... 100w today = 100w next week is all that matters to me...
You can buy a few smart trainers for that money. That's similar to the jet-black smart. I bought a flux 2 which is working well but I hate how there's no on off power switch on the unit itself which is quite bizarre in 2022. Next trainer for me will have a self generating power supply.
Hi mate. I got a pinnacle turbo trainer coming. I've got a 105 11 speed casette on the back. cs-hg700 11-speed cassette 11 - 34. I've also got a r7000 11 speed 11-34 casette aswell. Will it work if I just put that on or do I need the exact same 1? Thanks
I know this is a year old , but does the thru axle on your bike at moment go straight in and hold the bike in place ? or do you need to purchase another tru axle ? I have a 2023 Giant TCR advanced 2 disc . Should say i have just ordered one online now price has dropped alot, trainer that is not bike.
please tell me if the drum of this machine is compatible with the polygon Xtrda 7 bicycle?
I spent the same on a direto.
its ironic one of the songs played on this video is one played at evans cycles (former employee )
The price is close Tacx Flux which also a direct drive.
There are no other smart trainer that can work off grid like Tacx Neo.
I am awaiting for £500 self-powered smart trainer.
Jet Black "Whisper" Drive. I had one, paid £400 and was very good, even could charge your tablet when riding with a usb out port. Only sold as went full on smart bike for indoors
Same here. I have a flux but hate the bulky pc box power cable with no on/off switch onboard. Self powering is the future of trainers
Hi David - I really enjoy your videos, but on these sponsored videos, I am not sure what your relationship is to the sponsor, whether they get to review the content, whether they’re paying you for a positive review, etc. It would be really helpful if you prefaced sponsored videos with a summary of the terms. I’d recommend Chase the Summit or Kofuzi on the running side as examples that provide transparency. Thanks!
I was looking to buy the wahoo kickr v5 until I came across this.
Does this do the same thing? Also Using the zwift app does it auto change the resistance when going uphill and downhill? I don’t know much about these things, but I am looking to purchase one.
Hi can some one respond please
Yes he clearly says it does just that, replicates up to 20% gradient.
Just got on missed the £70 as thought it was scam paid £200 still cheap
And works well
500£ for a direct mount is ok , but hardly a bargain, loads of DM trainers at that price here in Denmark
Loads you say? Interested to know which ones you mean
Thanks what I’m always wondering how u people can ride 2000 watts unbelievable ✌️🇦🇹
Elite Direto smart turbo trainer on wiggle at £399👍🏻
Which is better pinnacle or direto?
Currently £200
Now £210 🤩
No built in cadence?
@ 5:22 - Internal cadence sensor....
Yes it has cadence built in
It is getting cheaper and cheaper. It seems $300 to $400 with very similar design from China. Actually, Chinese products came out before this one.
It looks like a rebranded jetblack volt
I'm thinking
This looks pretty much identical to the Wahoo Kickr Core 🤔
It's similar for sure. The Kick Core doesn't provide the same max power capacity or gradient simulation as the Pinnacle though and it's a little more money too
@@davidarthur would you recommend this one over Wahoo Kickr Core then?
Hey David, do you have a number for Pinnacle Support. I received mine faulty and can’t get a sensible response from chat bot/email. Cheers, Bill