PS5 Pro Game Upgrades: What Are We Most Looking Forwards To?
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NOT THAT YOU NEED A PRO FOR THIS, ROCKSTAR………BUT…
A 60fps patch for rdr2 would be nice.
Never gonna happen if it hasn’t already
Better yet a patch + dlc for john
@@herrpualam5023Do you mean Red Dead 1 as a DLC? If so then that's a terrible idea. RDR1 is a masterpiece of a game and a remake of it doesn't deserve the be reglated to a DLC.
@@MichaelM28 no no no, I mean just a couple of additional mission as john in epilogue
I'm pretty sure Rockstar sees RDR2 as a failure and will not be investing any more money into it. It might be incredibly well received and incredibly popular with millions of players, but it's not _the most popular game that ever existed_ like GTA5 is and therefore Rockstar doesn't care. The people who cared about RDR2 and wanted to make it in the first place, have left the company years ago.
I just want hall effect joysticks and triggers!
Verbally saying exclamation point gets me every time. 😄
What I want is an industry standard that targeting 60fps is the minimum acceptable performance these days and moving forward. Even if that means dropping ray tracing and reducing other things on consoles.
Yeah lets get worse games just so fps freaks are satisfied
@allthis701 Obviously someone still playing on a PS4 at 30fps, without a clue how much increased frame rates, improves the overall smoothness of a game.
I'd always take more fps over more eye candy any day of the week, if it was a choice between the two. Well, at least until you reached around 120fps, where any benefits of those increased frames just tapers off.
I'd much sooner play a silky smooth game that only looked OK, rather than a game that looked stunning, right up to the point where you moved your character or moved the camera, to then watch those lovely graphics turn into a sluggish jitterfest.
More frames just makes a more playable game, in that regard.
I owned an rtx3080 + 5800x and switched to console for a better experience. So try harder.
@@allthis701 I had an RTX 2060 alienware laptop. I switched to PS5 and prefer consoles. I gave the laptop to my son, who prefers that and I gave him a series X. Which he actually prefers, though he likes creating on PC and digital art. I got fed up of all the updates to Windows, updates to the command centre, updates with Nvidia drivers, change anything, you have to reboot, games that should run, having to tinker and follow instructions to get the to run. There was alot of faff, that is great if you enjoy it all, but not me. I prefer simple gaming. I update the PS5, but not every other day like I did with that damn thing. Games and things generally just work and I can get 60fps on most games. The only one I can't that I enjoy is RDR2, which I know they could patch, as the PS5 is more powerful than the RTX 2060 and it ran between 60-85 fps.
@@allthis701 Who you calling freak ya cheeky CNut? Just noticed your comment. Bang out of order.
Anyone wondering if this could benefit PSVR2, imagine GT7 native 90 or 120 😍..
A better battery in the joypad. And mandatory 60fps for every game.
Best Sony can do is quality 30fps mode 🤷♂️
@@philliprokkas195lol
Really low standards for an entire new System launch. Especially considering they already launched the disappointing PS5 slim.
@@philliprokkas195 best lazy ass Devs can do*
@@evosteff disappointing slim? It's the same console, were you expecting a hardware change? Lol
I want GT7 Full Pathtraced or Ray traced like in the trailers and game's intro
Like Photo mode.
@@adanaligamer8666 For a photo mode you could wait a few seconds and get path traced images but having a dynamic camera like in modern photo modes isn't feasible, i don't see any developer trying to make something that computationally expensive run on console.
This, and any boost to it's VR2 mode.
@@meebs99 native 90-120 in VR2 would be the best thing.
Give me a break. 4090 struggles with full path tracing at 60fps. PS5 cannot do this, stop kidding yourself.
Im intrigued to see what they will do with first party titles like Spider-man 2
🤔 Could the PS4 backwards compatibility games with PS5 have PSSR? DriveClub at 4K would be insane. Probably not possible tho. But it is A.I. upscaling. No sdk kit needed to implement it on PS5.
Probably not. They can't even support VRR sadly
Al i wanted is a minimal of 1440p native, with 60fps and hdr on a system level. Ray tracing is not important for consoles, wasted resource considering its limits (pro or not). Was expecting 60fps with 1080p on ps4 yet even the pro dit not deliver enough. Guess console gamers have to wait for ps6... or take our los and go PC
Consoles have a lot more potential. And PCs also have a ton more potential.
The problem is everyone thinks it’s hardware that is behind when in reality it’s software that is behind.
So far there are only 3 games in existence that seem to be truly using the power of next gen technology which is hellblade 2, Rise of hydra, and gta 6. All these have to be using new software because it will never be possible with today’s raw hardware.
If you didn’t know, UE5s entire point was to remove the need for better hardware, and if you look at hellblade 2 on Xbox, they truly succeeded because it would have taken a whole extra generation of consoles for better hardware to run those graphics.
Final Fantasy series. Already made for Pro spec with no Pro to run it properly.
GT7 on PSVR2 at native 90fps (non-reprojected) and hopefully at a higher max resolution at the center of the foveation
I'm waiting for the PS5 Pro to play Hogwarts with quality mode and unlocked FPS. What other games do have an unlocked FPS mode that could benefit from the boost mode right away without waiting for a patch?
ABSOLUTELY FF7Rebirth and FFXVI
Sony has to give previously released games like Spider-Man 2 a PS5 Pro patch to really showcase if this is worth it. Especially if they have no major titles to release alongside it. Show me if Helldivers 2 can run performance mode with quality mode resolution on the Pro.
Knowing Sony's history, they'll probably charge for it.
@@cactusmanbwl1990 Is that why the Pro update for all their games on PS4 was free?
Before watching the video, I'm gonna say I want the PS5 Pro to have Dolby Vision support. Sony's now supporting it with its mid tier TVs this year so it would make sense to advertise the feature with it
They could even do like Xbox did for a time and include it as an optional nominal fee paid upgrade on the PS Store, and if so, it'd be nice if they included it for free for PS Plus subscribers.
it doesn’t make sense to advertise it. That would be underwhelming
What do you mean " Sony's now supporting it with its mid tier TVs this year"...? Like where the hell have you been living under? xD
Sony is one of the first TV manufacturers that support Dolby vision all the way back in 2018 with Sony X900F (which I owned), got X900J now which also has dolby vision and all mid range and up sony TVs have dolby vision support.
Basically Sony supports dolby vision even before PS5 was released.
@@sermerlin1 I meant a dedicated Dolby Vision gaming mode. LG's had it for some time, but Sony's TVs haven't. Last year it was in the flagship model, but wasn't available to mid and lower tier models. This year they're adding the DV game mode to their mid tier Bravia 7 line. Up until now, Sony's TVs had input lag when using Dolby Vision because it didn't have a gaming mode, so a good way to sell more of their own TVs, it'd be wise to utilize this new feature for their Pro model.
@@sermerlin1 maybe they were confusing it with Samsung. I think they were slow to get on board.
I wish to have wide screen support.
I just want more solid performance when using RT modes. Just started Witcher 3 recently and you have to play it in performance mode. RT mode looks way better but is essentially unplayable. I would say the biggest aim for a pro console needs to be 60 fps for RT modes.
FF7 Rebirth with PSSR plus the GPU boost could run at 4K 60 easily. Maybe even provide an uncapped VRR mode so the game could hit 4K 90 on HDMI 2.1 TVs.
Before watching the video I'd like to see upgrades for both FF7Rb and FF16. Then games like CP2077 running at 60fps with RT. Also I'd like to see a next-gen upgrade for Kingdom Hearts 3 before KH4 drops, maybe a 3.5 collection including KH3+ Remind + Master of Masters running at max like PC version, I think console players deserve KH3 run and have same features as PC version (and possibly we get it for Steam deck too)
Those two Final Fantasy games would be great ones to see. I think FF7 Rebirth runs at 1200p in performance mode. So a PS5 Pro patch could show how much better it can do while running at 60fps.
Bad optimization here. FF16 should run on PS5 in stable 60 FPS... at least in VRR 40. But you can clearly see weird performance issues. No fix...
@@makoto5280 it uses shadow RT from what it looks like. Lightning is baked but let's see what's going on with that game when it releases on PC.
Granblue relink is one that i would like to see improved, especially in the performance mode, which is stuck at 1080p. Another game would be uncharted legacy of thieves collection
Uncharted legacy of Thieves collection already has native 4k at 40fps, native 1440p at 60fps and 1080p at 120fps on base PS5.
Improving the resolution of a game like Granblue Fantasy Relink isn't gonna change much as the anime artstyle is supposed to look softer
I play this on PC. It's a phenomenal game at 4K 100fps
@corey_massey This. Granblue isn't a graphical impressive game its just a game. It don't need anything else tbh.
I'm excited to see what the pro can do honestly it's shaping to be an interesting machine.
There won’t be one
1440p+ 60fps + … not interested or On or off toggle, should be the minimal requirement … bigger battery in the controller, controller’s speaker should be used more often cause that was rly funny the 1st time I used it on the base ps4 in gta5 … LED or retro illuminated buttons NO rgb done wrong thought and my personal pick ( loose the PAD ) and the share button cause to me it feels like a continuous race for streaming and broadcasting … I am a more simple OLD player born in the 80’s 🤫😉
GTA 5 and patch regular PS5 to remove RT and extend LOD along with upping res in 60fps mode.
This is the smartest comment on here. Remove all RT/PT from console titles.
Hoping for a 4K Full Ray Tracing 45/60 FPS mode on the Witcher 3
Keep dreaming. $1600 cards struggle to do this. It costs way over $2000 to achieve this.
PS5 Pro is a joke.
@@glenmcl plenty of PCs can achieve that
And i believe for sure that it could achieve 45 locked
Not possible without heavy upscaling.
@@user-cv6rx6fo5h is that a problem if its upscaled
@@glenmclPC is a joke
Bloodborne patch please
Bloodbornium
Bloodborne, Bloodborne, Bloodborne - maybe if I say it three times then Sony will finally pull their finger out with this outrageously neglected classic
You need a remaster for next gen
Elden ring is way better
Bloodborne is overrated
Nek minnit, The Last of Us Part 1 Remake: Remastered
A 1440p 60 fps mode for bloodborne would be amazing.
I want widescreen support and 480p progressive-scan mode for all titles on Pro.
Bethesda taking a sigh of relief seeing the consoles can finally have wide screen support for their games
Your about 20 years too late bud
I really hope the ps5 pro will have a better blu ray player than the ps5. And also to support hdr 10+ and dolby vision. Is all im asking.
What's wrong with the Blu-ray player?
@@MichaelM28 no hdr 10+ and also no dolby vision.
One question; What's PSSR?
Sony's in house upscaler.
@user-cv6rx6fo5h Oh, okay, thanks 🤙Is this an automatic funtion that would apply to titles via PA5 Pro hardware? or is it something they'd have to implement on a title by title basis?
@@SpartasEdge Good question I'm not too sure about that? I would it will be implemented in most new releases games like on P.C or will come in later patches. But maybe it also might with a customs selector in playstation settings saying pssr in the graphics setting? Or maybe they will just roll into performance or balanced mode. I feel they should at least make it visible so it can be compared to the others so you can tell how good it compares to other graphics settings and if it's actually going be worth selecting.
@user-cv6rx6fo5h We'll find out more as time goes on i guess, as we learn more about the Pro, and how it utilises
@@user-cv6rx6fo5h I guess we'll find out in time, as we learn more about the Pro, and how it utilities PSSR.
Developer will only use Raytracing more agressive and graphic fidelity than tanks the frame rate and resolution. Then we are stuck at 30 fps again and with blurry 720p picture quality
The Finals with better gi and 120 fps 🤤
It’s weird to think of people buying a new console just to play games they’ve already played, now with very slight improvements to the visuals.
Just like a PC graphics card I guess
Most average people aren’t buying it. Mostly just reviewers or ppl who are only just upgrading from last gen
@broskibrobro1278 not really. Just hard core gamers like myself are looking for it.
higher than 120 hz support
Boy I would’ve never thought DF would be one of the channels constantly milking the PS PRO unicorn 🦄 .
Cry harder xbot 😂😂😂
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@@MichaelM28 coming from someone attention seeking in all the comments 😂
@@MichaelM28you do know that is a compliment now since Sony is leaking money and going down the toilet. Go woke, go broke. Microsoft need to be careful as they are on that slippery slope now too.
Dolby Atmos for Headphones as an option on PS5 in general would be nice. Full native 4K patches to Spider-Man 2 for 40/60fps. Full 4K 120 fps on less intensive games like Minecraft
SPIDERMAN 2 IS ALREADY NATIVE 4K AND 40FPS ON A 120HZ TV IF YOU SELECT UNLOCKED FRAMERATE
@@corey_massey it is not full 4K. Watch DFs video on it when the dev menu was in game. It’s usually about 1800p not 2160p
@@seliteguitarist3664
The game uses DRS. 2160p is the target resolution for the Quality mode and achieves it most of the time in its 60hz display mode. The game is still targeting 2160p in its quality 120hz mode but has more dips in resolution and tends to fluctuate between 2160p and 1800p. Overall the game still presents a very clean image at between 1800p and 2160p that because of DRS already being in the game, the more powerful PS5 pro gpu will naturally have the game run toward the max of the DRS bounds ,in this case 2160p.
Spiderman 2 is one of the few games that will not need a PS5 pro patch since it's DRS range is already 4k and has an option to unlock the framerate in the base PS5 game.
@@corey_massey it literally is not. The game NEVER reaches full 4K. Watch the video a month old about the debug menu. The resolution never reaches 4K even looking at the sky in 30 or 40 fps. Please watch the video before commenting completely wrong facts. Also, I want native 4K not dynamic.
@@seliteguitarist3664
So we are gonna disregard in the same video they say that several performance patches including the one which this video is based on, have been released which reduces resolution in favor of greater performance. We are also hoing to pretend that the game has not been updated since which roll back and remove features from the patch talked about in that video. Also DRS is why Spiderman 2 will not need a PS5 pro patch, which is my point to begin with. Because the game has DRS in the base game on PS5 and the DrS is set to 2160p, the rumored enhanced GPU in the PS5 pro can run the game upto the upper bound of the existing DRS. Also the term native refers to upscaled or not upscaled... not to Dynamic Resolution scaling as it is possible to have native rendering and DRS set to on, and the DRS will only kick in when or if the game needs to drop below the target framerate. The purpose of DrS is to drop resolution in areas where the game would otherwise drop frames so it drops the rendering resolution instead to allow the game to run at the best framerate possible at all times. Asking for a game to render full native 4k at high framerate is a waste of resources as most drops are so minor that you wouldn't notice a drop to resolution but you might certainly notice the drop in performance.
Lastly we are not even gonna touch on the fact that there is virtually no difference between 1800p and 2160p unless you are pausing every frame to zoom in 300 or 400% to see differences in alaising. At 1800p the pixel density is so high that in normal gameplay the resolution difference between 1800p and 4k is non existent because the segments of the image quality that would be most affected by the lowered resolution are so small the only way to see them is to zoom in 400%. So in essence you are asking for an increase that you won't even see in normal gameplay. In fact the biggest increase a PS5 pro can make to any game is gonna be in GPU bound performance, as PSSR will give the system a cheaper way to render higher resolution which should free up more room for performance, meaning a performance mode which can run 1440p upto 120fps or a fidelity mode with runs 4k and stable 60fps. The upgrade you are talking about is actually a waste of time and resources because it would have no impact on the visual presentation of the game and since the performance targets are already being met in the base game on PS5 produce no performance enhancements either.
For me resolution mostly cause in some games upscaling looks not good on 75 inches. And also better ray tracing and highest settings. So basically is similar jump like moving from rtx 2080 to 3080
I think the meant to ps5 pro is to have 60fps in fidelity mode and 120fps in performance this is what I want in cpu no bound games and cpu bound 40fps mode on the pro
40fps mode is crap. I seriously don't understand why people like it. No matter what hit the gfx take, I choose performance mode every time
45 FPS
@@garyr5866locked 40 FPS is literally fine on most of the games but i think 45 FPS should be the sweetspot for 4K Fidelity/Ray Tracing mode
Speaking as someone who recently beat both Batman Arkham Knight and Uncharted 4 on my Steam Deck OLED with the refresh rate capped to 40hz, 40fps is very playable and a noticeable increase in smoothness over 30 despite only having 10 more frames. 40fps with perfect frame times to me is far better than trying to hit 60 but frequently falling short of it and getting those erratic frame time spikes.
@AB-fr2ei Not for me. I'm so used to playing at 60 and above that as soon as I drop below, the game feels chuggey and sluggish.
120 FPS in GT7 in VR without the distracting foveated rendering.
You can't notice foveated rendering inside the headset
@@rudytay83 that’s racist. I’m Asian so I can see in the sides pretty easily.
@@samgao BS.
Don't get what the point of the mid-gen refresh is when (it feels like) the games aren't coming out anyway
The base consoles goes down in price is only perk about the pro consoles
There wont be one.. idiots need to stop floating this stupid rumor.
There will not be a PS5 pro.
@@user-rt4ct6tq3rit’s literally already been leaked by devs. That’s the only reason Digital Foundry is even talking about it
@@user-rt4ct6tq3r ?
FFXVI should automatically hit 1080p60 now in performance mode, but a patch for the quality mode to get native 4k rather than 1440p upscale would be nice
FFVII Rebirth needs a Pro Patch version for a new performance mode that is a straight 1440p60 without any weird upscaling tech they are using now that looks awful
God of War Ragnarok, Horizon Forbidden West, Ghost of Tsushima, Spiderman 2 should all get native 4k 60fps mode since they are basically 1800p60 now or so, native 4k with dynamic res at 60 would be great
Maybe add the PC higher end features from ports to these games as well
FF developer are unskilled in terms of optimization. They really have trouble. Even base PS5 is powerful enough to get stable 60 fps or vrr 40.
Ff games look like dog crap for some reason. It's like they took a step back the more the get better equipment and make things run worse not better.
Games like how that have sooo much going on all at once still is better optimized.
@@bombyo3634 Some scenes are really fkn good on FF16 and next gen looking specially in 30 fps mode. The fields and the weather effects are amazing. But it has also some weak graphics like humans.
@makoto5280 imo the the resolution is just to bad. The art looked Good so that's probably what you mean but the blurry graphics is horrible. They just should have made it like ff7 remake. Because it's a ps4 game.
@@bombyo3634 Probably you not know, but is Ambient Occlusion. It is not blurry, it is more realistic. It was really looking amazing and sometimes like reallife. Maybe your TV / monitor is not good calibrated as well?
Witcher 3 and cyberpunk
I'm still waiting for Sony to put on PS5 the audio drivers of their previous headsets.
My Playstation Gold headset sounded absolutely gorgeous and crystal clear on my PS4 Pro, but it sounds bland and mediocre on PS5.
First I've ever heard of this problem
@@MichaelM28 I've seen multiple users complaining about this.
It's a fact, Sony unfortunately completely decided to ignore the audio profiles on the PS5 for headsets that had them on PS4/PS4 Pro.
Even for "premium" like the Playstation Platinum. They all sound very mediocre on PS5.
Why so many ps5 on your desk?
They all overheated.
@@glenmcl🤡🤡
@@glenmclSomeone's butthurt trashbox is in last place with no games 🤣🤣🤣
Final Fantasy XVI please. I need to experience that game with a decent performance mode. 1080p and 60 fps shouldn't be too much of a request ffs
Final Fantasy 16 with locked 60fps all the time and with a minimum of 1440p all the time would be pretty dope.
That game is gorgeous in quality mode, but that sort of gameplay NEEDS 60fps, and the image quality can get so bad on performance mode...
Two things: 60fps over Ray tracing!
And the only game I would love to play patched is BLOODBORNE!!
Looking forward to PS5 Pro: day 1 purchase for me!
what do we want? WHAT WE WERE PROMISED!
Feel like we’ve been talking about a ps5 pro for about two years now, and they still haven’t announced anything yet.
It'll be announced very soon. Have faith
@@MichaelM28there’s no point of a pro or the base ps5 haven’t been properly utilized yet
@@balloonb0y677In what way? It’s struggling in ue5 titles right now.
@@broskibrobro1278 it’s not struggling in UE5 titles. They are all simply indie games that can’t utilize the ps5 properly
@@broskibrobro1278 and technically any UE5 title should be easier to run on consoles than any other engine.
gta 6 path tracing would be nice
I needed a good laugh 2day. Thx for that 💀💀💀
@@Wes_Trippy4lifeGTA 6 won't be on PC until at least 2027
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60 FPS would be nice
@@MichaelM28 Keep believing that
Final Fantasy XVI
GT7 for sure! Updated with in-game ray tracing
I personally want a full VRR implementation, not the garbage that they implemented just to put it.
Bloodborne
120fps gaming would be the best for me!
Games like the RE 2 and 3 remakes, GoW 2018 and Ragnarok, first party or semi exclusives like Final Fantasy VII Remake/Rebirth and Stellar Blade, etc, all have demonstrated that, given more GPU or even a tiny CPU upgrade could hit 120fps or at the very least run between 100 and 120fps, which would feel amazing with VRR!
I can't see a lot of developers supporting it, it's going to be niche and mostly for Sony published stuff.
An actual improvement unlike the ps4 to the ps5
Bloodborne?
Marvel's Guardians of the Galaxy? 4k60 with raytracing would be nice
Elden Ring at 4K120FPS on the PS5 Pro 🙌🏻
Not gonna happen the pc version is locked at 60fps
@@Alltimefox it’s not
The game is locked at 60 so that's impossible without messing with the files and anti-cheat. The ps5 already does run the game at 30-45 at 4k I think.
😂
Dragons Dogma 2 with 60 fps mode
I play it at 120fps on PC. It's still crap.
A budget gaming laptop is as powerful as ps5 pro.
A low end work laptop is as powerful as an xbox series x.
Imagine being excited for a 6 hour bootleg God of War 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@MichaelM28 imagine begging for blade and Indiana jones on ps.
@@vickybengaliimagine begging for Helldivers and Final Fantasy on xbox
@@MichaelM28imagine being an attention seeking kid like yourself 😂
I was planning on switching from Xbox to Playstation when the PS5 Pro releases, but I changed my mind after Sony’s censorship of Stellar Blade. I am just to invest in PC gaming at this point. Sony and Microsoft are both anti consumer, anti freedom, and both of them have completely lost their minds.
Imagine ever owning a trashbox 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
we’re looking for a CPU boost bro, 10-30% boost, 1080p 120fps stable every game 4k60 every game minimum
What’s the point of a cpu boost if 99% of games aren’t using direct storage 😂
Bloodborne....
Bloodborne and Red dead 2
Hope GTA 6 gets path tracing on the PS5 Pro so it can come to PC eventually.
I remember back when games were about having fun, instead of just graphics and framerate. Good times
Seems like a stretch since even an RTX 4090 PC can barely handle path tracing right now, and PS5 Pro has only a small fraction of a 4090’s capability.
I wanna be on whatever drug your on so I can believe that ps5 can handle path tracing
@@istealpopularnamesforlikes3340i remember when people didn't care about others liked and kept scrolling before leaving a condescending comment
@@tomohawkcloudPS5 pro
Pretty soon gamers will want a new console every single year. How about we appreciate the amazing games on current gen consoles????? You will enjoy your consoles more if you leave the house more often.
I will appreciate them when I get a ps5 pro. Ps5 is pure horseshit Console.
@@lordspalse0062 most people will complain about the pro model and then anticipate the release of the PS6.
@@lordspalse0062PS5 is incredible. Cry harder xbot
@@MichaelM28 I agree. I picked up the slim PS5 and I’m blown away.
I'm looking forward to it filing my taxes.
We don't need a Pro for this but i want a 120hz mode with LFC! I want the option to play Elden Ring DLC in quality mode with VRR
I just want Sony to allow cross-platform saves. I barely touch my PS5 anymore as my pc just decimates it. The Pro isn't going to change that either
My PC decimate the ps5 also, but I can't wait for pro. I need those exclusives, and I'm not waiting a year for them to come to PC
Jedi Survivor, Forbidden West, Alan Wake 2, Cyberpunk, Dragons Dogma, Avatar etc…
Just patch ALL the games :)
Elden Ring could use a patch too, just to make the FPS more stable. Jedi Survivor I would buy in an instant if the performance was fixed (and Dragons Dogma too).
@@fcukugimmeausername yeah, there is quite a few games I have held off buying as well.
First day with the PS5 Pro, I’ll probably get 4-5 “new” games; Jedi, Avatar, Alan Wake 2 and a few others - here is hoping they get patches.
@@fcukugimmeausernameYou don't even have a PS5 xbot 🤣🤣🤣
Call of duty, Dragons Dogma 2, Baldurs Gate 3, Lies of P, Forbidden West ,Unicorn Overlord,Callisto Protocol
*30 to 60FPS likely ain't gonna happen so don't even ask...*
The CPU is about 10% faster. The PS5 Pro is about looking better at the SAME FPS as games run now. The only way 30 to 60FPS is going to happen in a 30FPS game is if it COULD run at 60FPS without a CPU bottleneck already. That MAY be true in some games, but I doubt there would be many.
Is amd ryzen in consoles easily not a limiting factor?
On pc ryzen zen 2 prosessors run games at over 100fps.
So why is it not capable of 60 on console?
It's the opposite. Most console games are gpu bound. A zen 2 cpu is plenty fast for 60 fps
@@IV-Abecause everyone doesn’t want consoles to surpass last generations consoles. Some guy said the ps5 couldn’t run rdr2 😂
@@balloonb0y677True. The amount of denial and hate from PC/Xbox fans is crazy. Makes it easier to get a pre-order though
Do we really need pro consoles? I mean, Switch has a hardware that is weaker than my phone but just look at the game library!!
Mh wilds.
All games at 8k 120fps at a minimum
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It would never happen even on late years of the console
Don't worry mate, I understood your comment was sarcasm. Nice one.
The PS5 GPU rasterization performance is close to a RX 6700 in performance. The raytracing is on par with a RTX 2060. Based off of the PS5 Pro GPU. It will be weaker than a RX 7700xt. Raytracing will be equivalent to a RTX 3070. The main gimmick of the PS5 Pro is not raw power like the PS4 Pro and Xbox One X was. It’s their new upscaling technology PSSR and better raytracing. I don’t think the PS5 Pro will benefit greatly from higher framerate games because of its CPU limitations. They will focus on better raytracing and slightly higher resolution than base PS5 with a much better upscaler. Overall it will be a much smaller leap than the PS4 to PS4 Pro was.
I'm very surprised many do not realize this. The ps5 pro rasterization performance is a chronic apology. They will focus on raytracing and upscaling to fool customers into thinking the Console has something tangible to offer.
@lordspalse0062 Yep, it'll mostly be better RT and higher resolutions, that will be getting a helping hand by using PSSR.
I dare say some existing games might get a bit of a fps bump via a patch, but it'll not be nearly as many as some people think.
Due to the limitations you pointed out, it simply won't have the grunt to able to increase everything (frame rates, graphics, resolution and RT). Something will have to give way. And since dev's have a reputation to choose visual look over frame rates on console, increasing the resolution and RT over the frame rate, will be the most likely outcome. FPS will take a back seat, as per usual.
I most situations you'll get the same frame rates and graphical settings as you do on a PS5, only with the added boon of a slightly higher resolution and/or better RT implementation on the Pro.
@@lordspalse0062"trick consumers" lol bro cope they aren't a scam company
@@melxvee6850 They are actually.
@@lordspalse0062 sure keep telling yourself that
I hope they remake TLOU 3...
I love that DF is using ebonics in their video titles 🤣💀💀
What??
@@MichaelM28 They said "looking forwards to" That's ebonics adding unnecessary S's to words 🤣
@@MichaelM28 ask your parents kid
The ones un-censoring stellar blade
Go talk to a real woman, dude. For your own sake.
Free ones 😂
DF: What patches you would...
* Sony interrupts *
Sony: Upgrades, we call them "upgrades"
I'm mainly looking forward to the consolr fans once again being puzzled as to why the Pro is running 30fps in 2025.
Because of unskilled and unmotivated game developers that suck at optimizing games 😅😅😂
Not you losers blaming systems when there are Devs doing great things with these systems
@@melxvee6850 "PS5 Pro is a 4K/120 monster"
@@fcukugimmeausername who are you to say it's not, do you own one
@@Wes_Trippy4life everyone with a brain knows this, idk why some clowns blame the system when it's Devs who are unable to do a proper job
We don't need a pro console,look at games like horizon forbidden west,spiderman 2 ,gow ragnarock,etc we just need good optimization,we also need more PS5 games,pretty much all the major games have been cross gen so the idea of getting a pro refresh this soon is so stupid
Spider-Man 2, Returnal, Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart, Demon's Souls aren't cross gen
Exactly 💯
Need/want. A lot of us actually want one.
@@shakengandulf I could probably understand it, if it was offering a decent bump up over the PS5, like the PS4 Pro did over the PS4. However, this is just a fraction of the amount of increase, than what you saw between those two. So, it is questionable as to if it is really needed or not.
I guess it's only really reasonable "IF" you are looking to upgrade from a PS4/PS4 Pro and "IF" it doesn't cost a huge amount more than a plain PS5. However, I'd definitely be thinking twice about upgrading to one, if I already owned a PS5.
@@MichaelM28and all are made at the beginning of the generation. Do you really believe games will properly utilize the ps5 at the very beginning of the generation 💀
Ff7 rebirth
I’m gonna say i don’t want a ps5 pro because as soon as that comes out we are gonna start hearing the base model suddenly can’t do higher frame-rates as they work with Sony to push the pro units.
I’ve been waiting since 2020 for a Pro model
That never happened with the base PS4 when the PS4 Pro released
@@MichaelM28different times
Stop Hyping for PS5 PRO🙌
Stop Crying about PS5 Pro🙌
Benis
Controllers WITHOUT DRIFTING. I am on my 5th controller now in just 2 years.
And 60 FPS for whatever Quality mode in whatever game. Get rid of 30 FPS completely. Its a damn stain.
Seems like a you problem.
Defo a You problem. Ive had my OG controllers since launch Day and they still work as intended.
@@Amhoj1 Same, they work perfect. Maybe if you're gaming 5hrs+ a day or something, but that's definitely not Sony's fault. lol.
Im on my second due to difting its a defect.
@@fcukugimmeausernameI thought you were an xbot? I'm very confused
Looking _Forwards_ to? lol
PS5 Pro will simply mean a prettier static image at the typical 30 FPS due to the anemic Zen 2 ~3.5 - 3.8 GHz CPU.
PS5 with a significant CPU upgrade would have been FAR more impactful. A CPU clocking at ~ 4.5 GHz +would have made 60 FPS viable in more cases.
A solid 60 FPS without taking such a huge hit to visuals obviously.
Thank god all games have 60fps modes anyway, except maybe DD2, and DF says the image quality could improve drastically on those modes, which means this is gonna affect A LOT of games
Smh. Nearly All ps5 games come with 60fps modes.
There was no point in getting a stronger CPU, the vast majority of games already target 60fps and the ones that don't would need a CPU that's 2x stronger than the current one on the PS5 and that wouldn't be possible.
Many games with a 60 FPS "target" aren't running at 60 FPS, hence a stronger CPU would have been a MUCH better upgrade.
My guy it's not a CPU and GPU, it's a x86 Apu that isn't available to the market, stop talking like you know how it works
Expect the first actual optimized version of PSSR to be released 3 months before ps6 is announced 😂😂 Slow poison Sony. Only 7 games will receive PSSR patches throughout the mid gen.
60 frames standard 4k isn't necessary
Stop buying the latest hardware then
@@jollama I can't rent digital at full price. I haven't access to fibre op. Stop be so self centered.
@@S3RAVA3LM ok backtracker
PSSR is exciting but let's hope they don't waste performance upgrades on ray tracing.
I want the PS5 Pro to come with a f*cking optical out for my Edifier speakers 😡
You can buy an adaptor for that
PS5 pro is not necessary. consoles are not PC.
PS3 Emulation