FRENCH & TOURANGEAU

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  • čas přidán 2. 01. 2023
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    This video was recorded by Ludovic Góngora in Touraine, France. Tourangeau is spoken by an unknown number of people in the French province of Touraine and surrounding regions. It is one of the extant langues d'oïl, a family of Romance languages that includes the French language, as well as Picard, Walloon, Lorrain, Champenois, Orléanais, Tourangeau, Berrichon, Bourbonnais, Bourguignon, Franc-Comtois, Armorican, Poitevin, Saintongeais, and Norman; the last of which is the language from which most Latin vocabulary in English derives. With the exception of the Norman language in the Channel Isles of Britain, where it is known as Dgèrnésiais, Jèrriais, Auregnais, and Sercquiais and is co-official with English, and Walloon, which has a degree of recognition in Belgium, the langues d'oïl have historically been socially and politically marginalized, especially in France, where the majority originated and are still spoken today. Though they are often described as dialects of French, the langues d'oïl are languages in their own right, having developed independently from Latin around the turn of the last millennium.
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Komentáře • 98

  • @slovenianempire
    @slovenianempire Před rokem +61

    I'm so impressed! Tourangeau is one of the languages that is really difficult to find information on so it's so wonderful that a speaker could contribute.

    • @timothywestgarde9890
      @timothywestgarde9890 Před rokem +2

      Bonjour I would like to see Interlingua an auxiliary language created 100 years ago in your videos its an interesting language a mixture of Romance languages per favor please LoveLanguages could you do a video for Interlingua?❤❤❤

  • @ReeseJamPiece.
    @ReeseJamPiece. Před rokem +36

    Apologies for not sending audio clips, there was a technical difficulty setting up the mic. I have a friend who knows the Dundonian dialect well so I will ask him if he can record some words.

  • @alyaly2355
    @alyaly2355 Před rokem +34

    Finally, Tourangeau!

  • @ElHeraldoHispano
    @ElHeraldoHispano Před rokem +18

    It is sad to see how these oïl dialects are disappearing little by little...

    • @J11_boohoo
      @J11_boohoo Před rokem

      They are languages
      Saying they are dialects means that they are just French or something, people should stop diminishing the values of languages by referring to them as dialects

    • @ElHeraldoHispano
      @ElHeraldoHispano Před rokem

      @@J11_boohoo I'm not saying that they are dialects of French. I know Norman, Poitevin, Picard, Walloon, etc. are different languages from Francien.
      What I meant is that what we refer to as "langues d'oïl" are actually a dialect continuum, hence there is certain mutual intelligibility between them.

  • @hieratics
    @hieratics Před rokem +33

    I wish there were some other speaker of langue d'oïl (berrichon, bourguignon, champenois etc) that could work with Andy

    • @alyaly2355
      @alyaly2355 Před rokem +4

      I know someone who speaks Bourguignon fluently

    • @lasalamandrefishing2727
      @lasalamandrefishing2727 Před rokem +2

      I speak french with a lot of berrichon and solognot words…

    • @user-ok9dc5qt8d
      @user-ok9dc5qt8d Před rokem

      @@lasalamandrefishing2727 Cette langue est-elle commune dans quelle région ?

    • @lasalamandrefishing2727
      @lasalamandrefishing2727 Před rokem

      @@user-ok9dc5qt8d На этом языке говорят в Турени (Touraine), исторической области в центральной Франции, столицей которой является знаменитый город Тур (Tours). Этот язык также известен как образец, по которому король Франциск I вдохновился на создание французского языка. Этот регион известен как место, где говорят на чистом французском языке без акцента. Мой отец был отсюда и прекрасно говорил по-французски.

    • @user-ok9dc5qt8d
      @user-ok9dc5qt8d Před rokem

      @@lasalamandrefishing2727 Тур......Замки Луары ?

  • @Dhi_Bee
    @Dhi_Bee Před rokem +61

    To me, Tourangeau sounds like an Italian person trying to speak French. It sounds interesting. Especially how they pronounce the “R” sound

    • @hoathanatos6179
      @hoathanatos6179 Před rokem +18

      The R is just a relic of early modern French. The R that most people use nowadays is from Paris and spread throughout the country during and after the period of the French Revolution. Most Northern French people before that time rolled their Rs in their local dialects.

    • @veritasardens6547
      @veritasardens6547 Před rokem +1

      @@hoathanatos6179 Ah, thank you very much for that info!

  • @adnyc82
    @adnyc82 Před rokem +9

    Interesting. The most noticeable feature for me is that the r is an alveolar tap rather than a uvular trill

  • @PeKaNo
    @PeKaNo Před rokem +10

    I speak a little bit of Gallo and still only understood like 30% of the words/sentences without looking at the french version. I thought it would feel closer honestly, I'm far better at understanding Poitevin-Saintongeais

    • @user-ok9dc5qt8d
      @user-ok9dc5qt8d Před rokem

      Le Gallo est un mélange de français et de Breton

  • @lonelyhetaliafangirl4936
    @lonelyhetaliafangirl4936 Před rokem +17

    Is Tourangeau a dialect of French or a separate language? It sounds cool tho
    Next video idea: Swiss German 🇨🇭 VS Alemannic/Liechtensteiner German 🇱🇮

    • @_Athanos
      @_Athanos Před rokem +11

      Probably viewed as a dialect by many who don't know much about it and assume it is but as a French native, this sounded like French but I had a very hard time understanding much of anything, I could recognize words but not make sense of the text so I'd say it's a separate language.

    • @alyaly2355
      @alyaly2355 Před rokem +16

      It’s a separate language from French, but is still very closely related to it. It’s like English and Scots. Tourangeau and French are both Romance languages in the group called the Langues d’oïl which also includes languages like Picard, Walloon, the Norman dialects, Berrichon, Poitevin and many many more.

    • @lonelyhetaliafangirl4936
      @lonelyhetaliafangirl4936 Před rokem +3

      @@alyaly2355 Understandable

    • @Lampchuanungang
      @Lampchuanungang Před rokem +1

      Separated langs, like hochendeutsch and hunskerian, in group of didoms of oil, langues d'oil.

    • @ami443
      @ami443 Před rokem

      A dialect.

  • @familhagaudir8561
    @familhagaudir8561 Před rokem +4

    On entend des traces d'occitan.
    Tourangeau is Southern oïl and has occitan traces like parlanjhe ( poitevin-saintingeais ) does.

  • @Magnetshroom
    @Magnetshroom Před rokem +5

    It is quite similar to French but much more Y's and it is even much harder.

  • @ommsterlitz1805
    @ommsterlitz1805 Před rokem +3

    I like it 👍❤

  • @jlstevenngao7534
    @jlstevenngao7534 Před rokem +1

    I Love And Enjoy Like French & Tourangeau

  • @dreaminjosh
    @dreaminjosh Před rokem

    I understand it so much better when I’m not looking at the text

  • @fabulouschild2005
    @fabulouschild2005 Před rokem +8

    The more I hear French, the more I think it is a beautiful language 🇬🇧❤️🇫🇷

  • @MaestroSangurasu
    @MaestroSangurasu Před rokem +14

    As french speaker I don't understand 🤣🤣

  • @addawlatalmahaldeebiyaa
    @addawlatalmahaldeebiyaa Před rokem +4

    It feels illegal to be this early

  • @user-tw8nn6ry2b
    @user-tw8nn6ry2b Před rokem

    Have you done Macanese Patuá before?

  • @JosiahEditor
    @JosiahEditor Před rokem +1

    Oui 🇫🇷

  • @rudolfschenker
    @rudolfschenker Před rokem +1

    What is the other element of this language besides Oïl? Is it something Gaulish/Celtic?

  • @neuseieiahn5164
    @neuseieiahn5164 Před rokem

    CHamoru plz

  • @dariush__
    @dariush__ Před rokem +4

    First!!

    • @dariush__
      @dariush__ Před rokem +2

      Also first to like the video

  • @ekkobi1846
    @ekkobi1846 Před rokem +8

    Please do Tigrinya vs Amharic languages!!

    • @Earthsage
      @Earthsage Před rokem

      Have a question? Is harari a semetic language or Cushitic

    • @ekkobi1846
      @ekkobi1846 Před rokem

      @@Earthsage What do you mean?

    • @Earthsage
      @Earthsage Před rokem

      @@ekkobi1846 I’m talking about the type of languages Ethiopia has. Cushitic languages are the Afro Asiatic language in east Africa like Somali or afar while Semitic languages are related to Hebrew, Arabic and Aramaic. Harari is a language spoken in the harar region in Ethiopia I just wanted to know if the language is closer to Cushitic languages in Ethiopia like Oromo or Semitic like Amharic. I wanted to be clear cuz you did Tigrinya vs Amharic languages so maybe it has a similar thing going on? Online it says they are Semitic and they are GROUPED within the Afro Asiatic languages which are Cushitic but the grouping is WITHIN a Semitic subfamily….. don’t even know how that makes sense lol. Do you know?

    • @ekkobi1846
      @ekkobi1846 Před rokem

      @@Earthsage Ohhh okay I understand now...

    • @siyabongamviko8872
      @siyabongamviko8872 Před rokem +1

      @@Earthsage Semitic. Harari is a Semitic language of Ethopia...

  • @DyivuLee
    @DyivuLee Před rokem +4

    That’s how French should be!! I love it. 😇😇

  • @sarahtourangeauartist

    J'espère qu'un jour j'en saurai + sur mon nom de famille et mes origines .. Un peu dur à trouver .. Je vis au Quebec et je ne me sens pas à ma place ! Lol

    • @luevigogongora6131
      @luevigogongora6131 Před rokem

      Tourangeau existant aussi sous d’autres variantes comme Turoncheau vient du latin Turonicellus qui veut dire “petit habitant de Tours” lui-même issu de la racine gauloise turo “fort”.

  • @dalubwikaan161
    @dalubwikaan161 Před rokem +4

    What is Tourangeua?

    • @sergiosantos6972
      @sergiosantos6972 Před rokem +2

      A dialect

    • @DanielgtaLaw
      @DanielgtaLaw Před rokem +1

      Do you mean the Angevin dialect?

    • @DanielgtaLaw
      @DanielgtaLaw Před rokem +4

      Tourangeau is a dialect of French that is the part of the Angevin dialect

    • @ommsterlitz1805
      @ommsterlitz1805 Před rokem +1

      @@DanielgtaLaw It's as Angevin as English is an Angevin dialect then lmao

    • @slovenianempire
      @slovenianempire Před rokem +8

      Tourangeau is the language they speak in Touraine. It's part of Lingua D'oil (The group French is in), specifically the Francien subgroup (so French and Tourangeau are brother languages) It is probably endangered (can't source that though, because of the French Dilemma as I call it) just like every other regional language in France.

  • @ami443
    @ami443 Před rokem +5

    I am french and it sounds very hard to understand. Like a language spoken by very old peasants in a lost countryside. Nobody speaks that dialect anymore today.

    • @phloviesse
      @phloviesse Před rokem +1

      Si, c'est encore parlé ; bien que très mélangé au français dans bien des familles !

    • @ami443
      @ami443 Před rokem +1

      @@phloviesse c'est parlé où ça encore ? Dis moi les villes et j'irais vérifier .

  • @connormurphy683
    @connormurphy683 Před rokem +2

    The orthography is ridiculous. It is hard to understand by reading but easier by listening, it is actually not that far from regular French. It seems as though someone just tried to make the orthography as weird as possible for the sake of being different from French.

    • @Deckardz
      @Deckardz Před rokem

      Maybe you're right but not at all, like... les langues d'oïl are differents from french, you should see gallo language, wallon language or picard language and you'll see that the french is the only without a weird spelling.
      They are different languages they don't need to be like french ortography, you shouldn't disrespect the spellings created for other languages, french and english doesn't have sense in many words, so yeah.

  • @stephanobarbosa5805
    @stephanobarbosa5805 Před rokem +1

    Tourangeau parece um francês "vulgar"

    • @Lampchuanungang
      @Lampchuanungang Před rokem +1

      No you very far away from truth, til beggining of 19th century it was considered the standard idiom on france til parisine revogue his domain by french congress.