How Big is Sunfyre and Moondancer in HoTD Season 2

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  • čas přidán 19. 06. 2024
  • The second season of "The House of the Dragon" is set to premiere in just one month, accompanied by the publication of a new trailer. This trailer follows the previously released "Black and Green" trailers. In the brief teaser for the series, we were able to observe the complete physical appearance of two distinct and splendid dragons. Although they may not rank among the largest or even the top 5 dragons in this genre, these creatures nevertheless hold significant importance in the show's storyline. In this video, we will study the footage of Moondancer and Sunfyre in order to determine their respective sizes.
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  • @ilbb7055
    @ilbb7055 Před měsícem +47

    Sunfyre's size can be explained by the fact that Sunfyre is one of the few dragons to have directly hatched in the Dragonmont of Dragonstone. Sunfyre was born as a wild dragon just like Cannibal, Sheepstealer, ect...
    The rest: Seasmoke, Syrax, Arrax, Vermax, Tyraxes, Stormcloud, Morghul, Shrykos, Moondancer, Morning were hatched with their riders. They are very domestic, almost all of them are gave food by the dragonkeepers and never hunts. Dragons can experience slower growth when they're locked up. The Targaryen dragons housed in the Dragonpit, in King's Landing do not grow as large as dragons left free to fly as they wish.

    • @Divine_Chareka
      @Divine_Chareka Před měsícem +8

      Well said!

    • @Biel_monteirodragonsfauna
      @Biel_monteirodragonsfauna Před měsícem +2

      É o q eu falo! 🤙🤝👏👏👏

    • @James-kd2qm
      @James-kd2qm Před 21 dnem +2

      except syrax is explicitly stated to be a considerably large dragon in the books. half the size of caraxes who is also supposed to be bigger in the books as well. the showrunners have already said the reasoning for syrax in particular not being bigger was due to budgetary constraints.

    • @Aleks-ti8vy
      @Aleks-ti8vy Před 18 dny +3

      Sunfyre was not a wild dragon. How did you come to that?

  • @ilbb7055
    @ilbb7055 Před měsícem +30

    2:29 Sunfyre's pink and blue scales on his neck are so gorgeous

    • @Iceinabottle
      @Iceinabottle Před měsícem +4

      He was described as the most beautiful dragon ever in the books. I’m glad they stayed true and was always hyped to see this dragon although we only got to see sunfyre for like 10 seconds in the first season.

    • @stew-03
      @stew-03 Před 5 dny

      @@Iceinabottle He is going to be brown in the show. Do you really think Ryan Condal would give Team Green something nice to look at?

  • @Divine_Chareka
    @Divine_Chareka Před měsícem +25

    Dragon sizes from smaller to bigger IN THE SHOW:
    Moondancer
    Vermax
    Syrax
    Sunfyre
    Seasmoke
    Meleys (thicker)
    Caraxes (longer)
    But both red beauties are most probably same size
    Vermithor
    Vhagar
    Note: i didn’t mention Dreamfyre because it's hard to tell the true size of her from what we've seen so far.

    • @quailjailss
      @quailjailss Před 27 dny

      We saw Dreamfyre in episode 7 in 2 shots and she wasn’t much bigger than sunfyre (who was 13 at the time if a cradle egg) so just after seasmoke is where dreamy would be.

    • @dennisaerob
      @dennisaerob Před 3 dny

      Dreamfyre is bigger than Caraxes and Meleys but smaller than Vermithor

    • @quailjailss
      @quailjailss Před 3 dny

      @@dennisaerob def not lol the show is not the book. Caraxes is much bigger than syrax and syrax was around the same size as Dreamfyre in ep 7

  • @howlutrv2858
    @howlutrv2858 Před 28 dny +12

    Moondancer is a beautiful name for a dragon.

  • @quailjailss
    @quailjailss Před měsícem +1

    I’ve missed your dragon videos so much. Can’t wait for season 2 dragon analysis videos

  • @musiclover9518
    @musiclover9518 Před měsícem +70

    Unless Sunfyre was already hatched way before Aegon was born, Sunfyre has no right to be shown so much bigger than Syrax no matter how much faster he grew.

    • @Savage-nv6wr
      @Savage-nv6wr Před měsícem +26

      The f are you talking about , Vhagar was 20 years older than Maraxes yet it was smaller ! Dragons grow according to freedom to fly and hunt not age !

    • @joshuaadams6565
      @joshuaadams6565 Před měsícem +6

      Sunfyre could easily have been born before Aegons birth. Sunfyre wasn’t a cradle egg, he was found by Aegon on Dragonstones volcano. So for all we know he was born the same time as Syrax.

    • @joshuaadams6565
      @joshuaadams6565 Před měsícem +6

      @@Savage-nv6wr That’s not true. We have no evidence of Vhagar being older for Meraxes wasn’t given a date of hatching. It’s just said she was born in the century of blood. That could be before or after Vhagar.

    • @schemeteam2954
      @schemeteam2954 Před měsícem +2

      U don't read the book huh

    • @datwhokid1
      @datwhokid1 Před měsícem +2

      @@joshuaadams6565absolutely. False sunder was the egg the black queen picked out for her dead new born brother

  • @alanch90
    @alanch90 Před měsícem +2

    Where can I find that drawing with all dragons to scale?

  • @ngin98
    @ngin98 Před 29 dny +5

    syrax lack of growth is really detrimental to rhaenyras characters because it means she has neglected her & kept her chained/ kept in the dragonpit/mont

    • @quailjailss
      @quailjailss Před 27 dny +1

      She’s allowed to free fly on dragonstone lol
      And book rhaenyra flew syrax more than any other young dragon rider. She literally flew everyday with daemon and Laena

    • @ngin98
      @ngin98 Před 27 dny

      @@quailjailss yeah but its been shown & said that free dragons grow rapidly compared to captive one so makes you wonder why they decided to keep syrax basically the same size

    • @quailjailss
      @quailjailss Před 27 dny

      @@ngin98 for the simple fact to keep her smaller. Sunfyre was born and kept in the dragon pit. Theres no reason he should be as big as he is. Vermax and arrax should have been larger since they were moved to dragonstone where the dragons thrive. They simply increased Sunfyre’s size for rooks rest. Syrax was probably just a victim of the budget, as she finally looks larger in the trailers. Especially the scene on the beach and in the dragonmont

    • @ngin98
      @ngin98 Před 27 dny

      @@quailjailss yeah agree on sunfyre but also for syrax I do believe they kept her smaller just so she could land in the bridge in dragonstome for the finale to have the parallel to episode 2 😂

    • @nicksmithnutmilk
      @nicksmithnutmilk Před 25 dny

      ​@@quailjailssSunfyre was born as a wild dragon in a vulcano . He could be older then Seasmoke and Syrax , it's explains why he's bigger then them and closer to Meleys and Caraxes size . Maybe he's like 40-50 years old

  • @stuffynosepatrol
    @stuffynosepatrol Před 9 dny +1

    Sunfyre is far too beautiful for a worm like Aegon

  • @charkongg
    @charkongg Před 29 dny +1

    no one rlly posts about vermithor at the end of trailer? he looks so badass

  • @quailjailss
    @quailjailss Před měsícem +4

    I can’t tell if Moondancer is a syrax baby or Meleys.
    I don’t believe she’s a vhagar baby like some say lolz. Vhagar is at the end of her life she wasn’t laying eggs. I think Laena could have either gotten eggs for her twins from her mother or from laenor by asking rhaenyra for eggs from syrax, since syrax was producing eggs during this time.

    • @richardrahl1919
      @richardrahl1919 Před 29 dny

      they store dragon eggs.and dragon eggs can be stored even centuries.

    • @quailjailss
      @quailjailss Před 29 dny

      @@richardrahl1919 well no, I’m sure just as anything they stay viable for hatching for an amount of time, like say as long as a dragons lifespan maybe.
      Also all unclaimed dragons and their eggs belong to the crown by default. We learn that in fire and blood during jaehaerys reign. So unless you were a prince or princess you weren’t gonna get a cradle egg. Now if your own dragon was producing eggs then of course your children could get a cradle egg this way. Just saying not all Valyrians were entitled to dragon eggs that were stored in the dragon pit in KL or the dragonmont on dragonstone
      Which is why I think she hatched from either meleys egg or Syrax’s
      We don’t hear of meleys specifically laying eggs but that’s noted in fire and blood how they told their sex was if they laid or not and even George states that “several of the she dragons” were laying clutches of eggs, not just dreamy and syrax.

    • @rexibhazoboa7097
      @rexibhazoboa7097 Před 27 dny

      Why do you say Vhagar is at the end of her life? In the lore, dragons live for as long as they can move. Balerion was a bit bigger than Vhagar currently is before he died a few decades ago so Vhagar likely had many more years to live. And unlike humans, dragon bodies do no weaken with time, they get stronger and bigger except you are implying that female dragons go through menopause and Vhagar has hit that.

    • @quailjailss
      @quailjailss Před 27 dny

      @@rexibhazoboa7097 oh how silly, okay let’s break this down. In the show the producers have said the larger the dragon the more they “fall apart” or wear down with size. We know for a fact that vhagar has almost reached balerions size. And no , they don’t live “as long as they can move” there’s nothing in the book or show that implies that. It was clear when Balerion was approaching the end of his lifespan. No creature lives forever. Just like any animal that grows older Balerion stopped flying as much.
      So since vhagar is approaching his size she is also falling apart more and more. Just as vermithor looks more worn down than dreamfyre bc of his size even though she’s older than him.
      There is no indication that a dragon as old as vhagar would still produce eggs lol. Since George has kept a lot of things about the dragons as realistic as possible, it’s implied that she’s near the end of her lifespan as well and creatures near death aren’t still reproducing.

    • @lordvader5158
      @lordvader5158 Před 24 dny

      More than likely Syrax

  • @ARBAAZATHER-bn1tl
    @ARBAAZATHER-bn1tl Před měsícem +2

    At first I thought the thumbnail dragon is GHIDORAH then I notice it doesn't have three heads

  • @justcallmed5297
    @justcallmed5297 Před měsícem +4

    I think the dragon egg that Daemon took that was supposed to be Baelons that Rhaenyra got back from Daemon on Dragonstone is the egg that Sunfyre came from

    • @jedimasters1462
      @jedimasters1462 Před 29 dny +1

      I doubt it seeing as it came from DreamWorks and Sunfyre looks a lot like Syrax.

    • @rexibhazoboa7097
      @rexibhazoboa7097 Před 27 dny +2

      That egg was taking back to the dragonpit. Sunfyre hatched on dragonstone as a WILD dragon. So it definitely isn't Syrax egg.

    • @Aleks-ti8vy
      @Aleks-ti8vy Před 18 dny

      @@rexibhazoboa7097 Sunfyre was not a wild dragon. How did you come to that?

    • @yunakiyoshi2610
      @yunakiyoshi2610 Před 8 dny

      @@Aleks-ti8vy Maybe because Sunfyre hatched a few years earlier then Aegon was born and stayed unclaimed until Aegon? Are they considered wild until claimed?

    • @Aleks-ti8vy
      @Aleks-ti8vy Před 8 dny

      @@yunakiyoshi2610 Yes, that was true, Aegon was a teenager when he bonded with Sunfyre, but he was not a wild dragon. He was hatched like any other Targaryen dragon under the care of dragon keepers.

  • @Donstaa
    @Donstaa Před měsícem +1

    Great capturing you definitely did good at pausing and screen shooting the photos but you are totally reaching way to early for this

  • @connormohun1373
    @connormohun1373 Před 23 dny

    Can we have a video of how big Syrah and sea smoke grew 😁

  • @georgeolaroiu3807
    @georgeolaroiu3807 Před měsícem +2

    i hope include mythical creatures in romanian folklore please!!!

  • @mrvamp9996
    @mrvamp9996 Před měsícem +3

    In the show they make sunfyre brownish golden

    • @rexibhazoboa7097
      @rexibhazoboa7097 Před 27 dny

      They aren't skilled enough to make Sunfyre look as beautiful as they are described without sacrificing realism. But let us wait till it comes out. Who knows, maybe they animated the dragons movements to be gracious and used pleasant angles to show him. Kinda how they film pretty people in hollywood.

    • @vitorlima7651
      @vitorlima7651 Před 25 dny

      Talvez as escamas dele seja mais dourado e com as membranas rosa como foi dito no livro, pois a Moondancer no primeiro trailer era diferente.

    • @stuffynosepatrol
      @stuffynosepatrol Před 9 dny

      ​@@rexibhazoboa7097what are you on about? The shows design is amazing in the shots where Sunfyre is in daylight

  • @josephmoo6412
    @josephmoo6412 Před měsícem +2

    W man

  • @ngin98
    @ngin98 Před 28 dny +1

    ok so they said we would see 5 new dragons in season 2 so far we have
    1. Sunfyre
    2. Vermithor
    3. Moondancer
    4. Stormcloud ?? (heard we would see it being hatched)
    5. Sheepstealer ?? (if the rhaena leaks are to be true)

    • @nicksmithnutmilk
      @nicksmithnutmilk Před 25 dny

      Sunfyre , Moondancer , Vermithor , Silverwing , Sheepstealer probably

    • @ngin98
      @ngin98 Před 25 dny

      @@nicksmithnutmilk I wanna see silverwing is she about the same soze as vermithor ?? I love big dragons

    • @nicksmithnutmilk
      @nicksmithnutmilk Před 25 dny

      @@ngin98 yeah , they're close in age and size

    • @stew-03
      @stew-03 Před 16 dny

      @@ngin98 Yeah, Silverwing is big

    • @MasterOfTheElements
      @MasterOfTheElements Před 16 dny

      We already saw Sunfyre in season 1
      It's Silverwing, Sheepstealer, Cannibal, Moondancer and maybe Dreamfyre but we already saw her in season 1 or Grey ghost.

  • @drago9427
    @drago9427 Před 13 dny +1

    Such a beautiful dragon for such a horrible rider…

  • @G1Grimlock94
    @G1Grimlock94 Před měsícem +2

    Episode 200

  • @manuelle188
    @manuelle188 Před měsícem

    👏👏👏👍

  • @KhuborLaitkam
    @KhuborLaitkam Před měsícem

    👍🏽

  • @reinsaxony4623
    @reinsaxony4623 Před 29 dny

    Not sure about how big, but Brownfyre is certainly neither golden nor pink.

  • @Michaeloyindoubra
    @Michaeloyindoubra Před 27 dny +1

    Didn’t the show stated that Sunfyre’s egg was placed by aegon’s cradle?…. There’s no way he can be as big as syrax

    • @rexibhazoboa7097
      @rexibhazoboa7097 Před 27 dny +2

      In the books, Sunfyre was born a wild dragon and Aegon claimed him. Sunfyre wasn't just gifted to him in the crib. IDK if they changed that in the show.

    • @nicksmithnutmilk
      @nicksmithnutmilk Před 25 dny +1

      ​@@rexibhazoboa7097they probably did . The egg that Daemon stole was probably Sunfyre

    • @rexibhazoboa7097
      @rexibhazoboa7097 Před 24 dny +1

      @@nicksmithnutmilk Sunfyre hatched on dragonstone. Daemon took Baelons egg from the dragonpit in kingslanding then returned it back in the same episode. So it likely is a different egg.

    • @nicksmithnutmilk
      @nicksmithnutmilk Před 24 dny

      @@rexibhazoboa7097 they made bigger changes then a dragon's birth place . And it would be kinda ironic that Rhaenyra " saves " the dragon that actually kills her in the end . It's likely that they changed it . Plus Sunfyre's color in the show and that egg's color matches

  • @grimmywizard
    @grimmywizard Před měsícem +3

    Sunfyre: Rhaenyra go chomp chomp

  • @Avos-Valdenava
    @Avos-Valdenava Před 17 dny

    Funny thing is their not even dragons 🤣

  • @erikmurray3661
    @erikmurray3661 Před měsícem +4

    Dude your way off in your measurements ɓro, moondancer has a 100ftwingspan? Not even Balerion had that.

    • @codyright7421
      @codyright7421 Před měsícem +2

      Question how big do u think 100 ft is if u want an example two semi trailers is 100ft my guess for moondancer is 40ft but vahgar is probably around 300ft long give or take

    • @MasterOfTheElements
      @MasterOfTheElements Před měsícem +3

      Balerion's skull is 30 feet long

    • @stew-03
      @stew-03 Před 16 dny

      Drogon had an 263 foot wingspan in S8….

  • @kap2652
    @kap2652 Před 27 dny +7

    Syrax is not golden and aegon is the rightful king

    • @rexibhazoboa7097
      @rexibhazoboa7097 Před 27 dny +3

      Syrax is described to be "piss-coloured" in the books if i remember correctly.

    • @kenydemeza
      @kenydemeza Před 11 dny +1

      Yall are mad

    • @kap2652
      @kap2652 Před 11 dny

      @@kenydemeza she not golden cope

    • @stuffynosepatrol
      @stuffynosepatrol Před 9 dny

      Aegon has no claim to the throne above his sister, he is a petty entitled rapist who didn't even want the throne until he realised how much he could get away with if he was king.