They CANCELLED last minute!!

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  • čas přidán 26. 01. 2023
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Komentáře • 76

  • @johnb.9190
    @johnb.9190 Před rokem +8

    This is normal,been self employed 35 years,don't go back to this customer.No point invoicing for lost time you're just wasting more time.

  • @nephry7061
    @nephry7061 Před rokem +6

    Some contractors indicate to the client when making an appointment, that a cancellation within 24 hours before the intervention is invoiced.
    I am also an electrician, and to avoid these situations, I always have sites on which I can go without an appointment.
    Sorry for bad english am from Switzerland.
    Thank you for the content, I can discover my job in other countries and with other ways of doing things ♥

  • @montystelevision3238
    @montystelevision3238 Před rokem +16

    They cancelled. It’s part and parcel of self employment. I stopped dying in a ditch over cancellations two decades ago.

    • @RDavisElectrical
      @RDavisElectrical  Před rokem +9

      Good for you old timer 👍🏻

    • @rjkelectrical6086
      @rjkelectrical6086 Před rokem +2

      Harsh but it’s true 😂

    • @montystelevision3238
      @montystelevision3238 Před rokem +9

      @@rjkelectrical6086 Back in my day you just sucked it up and carried on. We couldn't whinge about it on CZcams!

    • @Shortlongrunrunner
      @Shortlongrunrunner Před rokem +1

      @@montystelevision3238 to be fair he does make money out of CZcams so it’s like a self licking lollipop, every cloud and all that.

    • @montystelevision3238
      @montystelevision3238 Před rokem +4

      @@Shortlongrunrunner lol what get stood up then mank on about it on CZcams to mitigate the losses?

  • @rjkelectrical6086
    @rjkelectrical6086 Před rokem +9

    Personally I would have waited till she replied confirming whether it was still going ahead.

  • @KortechUK
    @KortechUK Před rokem +4

    It happens unfortunately. If she does get back to you and wants the job doing, either put her off or if you do decide to to the work, add NV (Nuisance Value) on to the invoice. I've done that with a few customer's who have messed me about.

    • @metrotechguru5863
      @metrotechguru5863 Před rokem +2

      Here in the states, we call that PITA (Pain In The Ass) tax. I personally apply this on any client who get up my nose. I'm an Independent IT Consultant.

  • @jollyrajer
    @jollyrajer Před rokem +1

    Not sure what your policy or local laws are but where I'm from if a client cancels last moment they must pay at least 50% of what was supposed to be done. They wasted your valuable time. You could have been at another job.

  • @tommochelsea72
    @tommochelsea72 Před rokem +2

    Unfortunately it happens.
    I once turned up at a job to do a kitchen refurb.
    The bloke who let me in looked really embarrassed, he proceeded to tell me the works had already been carried out and his wife had arranged me by mistake!!!
    I walked off shaking my head as nothing I could do.

  • @mikestephens2526
    @mikestephens2526 Před rokem

    If it was a job you be quite within your rights to charger, but because it’s a free quote there’s not a lot you can do it happens and it will happen again unfortunately as I found out if she was in then you quoted the job and never got it you’re still in the same situation you spent time but not got paid for it. Bring back the good old days when we charge £50 for a quotation

  • @baldelectrician
    @baldelectrician Před rokem +1

    I ditched Tradify as they could not add the terms I need (14 day cooling off in peoples homes law) with particular formatting.
    I asked them about this and they had never heard of this law.
    As far as clients like this I store their number in my mobile with a DNA (do not answer) so I know to pass on them in future
    I now use Xero which allows me to upload a word document as a blank terms and conditions template.
    How do you deal with the 14 day cooling off requirements on your estimates?

  • @drummerboi60
    @drummerboi60 Před rokem

    Happens lot just go to the next job , you wasn’t going to earn anything quoting anyway, (you might not have even got the job) or if you did get the job just add your time wasted onto the quote/invoice without them knowing

  • @steve11211
    @steve11211 Před rokem +1

    Unfortunately all part of the job, its one of the reasons that as a self employed person you charge way more per hour than someone in a full-time job would earn.. There is always paperwork to do and van to clean etc.. I think when she books it in again say "You definitely sure its all good to go for that day cause if you cancel last minute it means I don't earn anything for the day so please make sure your all ready to go".. Think then you would make the point..

  • @louisgeorge3460
    @louisgeorge3460 Před rokem

    Hello mate ,
    Will you ever do a video where you go through you and the apprentices power tools?
    I’m an apprentice and would be really interested to see what you both use

    • @stacksmalacks8826
      @stacksmalacks8826 Před rokem

      Impact driver, combi drill, sds drill, multitool, grinder. realistically aw the power tools ye' would need

    • @clivewilliams3524
      @clivewilliams3524 Před rokem

      Should just rock up, say you haven’t received the text, the look on there face a be worth the three hours…For the sake of 3 hours, inconvenient I no but I wouldn’t wast any more thought on it,
      You have done every thing you can.has she postponed or cancelled ?
      I’d take a drive round there for a little look see to see if another contractors turned up…

  • @paul.c8693
    @paul.c8693 Před rokem +2

    It's hard to know what to do on that side of these things Ryan but you are at a loss 100% but 2 hrs is pretty minimal and kasper is happy out getting the wages for having a coffee😂😂

  • @tommochelsea72
    @tommochelsea72 Před rokem +2

    It’s hard enough getting money for work we’ve carried out let alone invoicing her for work you haven’t done 😂

  • @jitsmen2519
    @jitsmen2519 Před rokem +1

    One positive could be that it might have been one of those customers that then won’t pay at the end by the sound of it. But understand having someone cancel last minute does suck!

  • @sunshine3187
    @sunshine3187 Před rokem +2

    Just leave it, take it on the chin and kindly refuse her if she wants to use your services in the future. Leaving it until that morning she's 100% wasting your time.

  • @czech_fury
    @czech_fury Před 9 měsíci

    Civil engineering subby here. Any aborted visits are invoiced at a rate of 2 hours. I work for a lot of limited companies so perhaps it's a little more accepted. I guess civilians don't think like business owners, however I think it's fair that work, in any form, is remunerated.

  • @jonathanstephens7804
    @jonathanstephens7804 Před rokem +1

    I felt your annoyance until you said it was for 2 hours and you had a job lined up at 10am! I'll spend that loading the van some days lol

  • @SpiritDK
    @SpiritDK Před rokem

    personly i drop customers like that, more often than not you'll end up coming around 2 3 4 times where they cancel last minute, it's just easier just to drop the customer, just sent her a message, "I'm sorry to hear of your troubles, unfortunately reserving a timeslot for a job and showing up in vain is also costing me a lot of money, feel free to contact me if or when you are in a better situation to lock in a date and time"
    I also always try to have a few jobs on the back burner, where I can come and go as I please, I often offer the customer a bit of a discount, and I advertise these jobs as there will be done when I have wholes in my day, and make sure the customer is absolutely clear the job is a backup job, with no or a longer timeframe, mostly it's things like lights in a barn or shed or outdoor lights or things like that, where I can come and go and the customer doesn't need to be home or anything, where i can work for 30 min or an hour or 2

  • @rossdavis6837
    @rossdavis6837 Před rokem +1

    Put her number on a advert for free dogs

  • @pauliboo2
    @pauliboo2 Před rokem

    Get all the info before you set off. Address and a phone number, and check the number exists.
    I’d get them off Facebook messenger to confirm either by a phone call or text message.
    Don’t arrange the booking until you have their details.
    You don’t need to block or ignore her, she may be juggling lots of plates, but I’d be wary.

  • @davidwhitefoot5680
    @davidwhitefoot5680 Před rokem +1

    always do quotes outside your working hours, if your on the tools

  • @chrisardern4594
    @chrisardern4594 Před rokem

    It happens if you did manage to do the quote and not get the job its basically the same situation. As for what i would do find the local cafe and have breakfast. If she contacts you in the future remember shes the customer and if you sack her off its just lost work and money.

  • @1sostatic
    @1sostatic Před rokem

    T&C's on a signed quote acceptance with a cancellation fee loaded into it

  • @ealingelectrical4871
    @ealingelectrical4871 Před rokem

    old saying.. fool me once shame on you . fool me twice shame on me. i always give clients 2 chances , if it happens more than once let them go. if she hadn't replied at all fair play.

  • @therealdojj
    @therealdojj Před rokem

    Ghost her
    Simple
    Next time around start with a deposit, fully refundable if the work happens, partially if it doesn't, not at all if it's cancelled by the client

  • @daviddurand3631
    @daviddurand3631 Před rokem +1

    What should you do...? you could ram your van into their front room shouting 'surprise' !!!!

  • @kenjewell3889
    @kenjewell3889 Před rokem

    Been there, done that. You live and learn. Quotes should be free, that's great you are offering that, but never turn up for a job on the back of a quote. Time is money. Once a job is confirmed have a terms and conditions that cancellations will be charged a percentage of the job.

  • @danielbarker5483
    @danielbarker5483 Před rokem

    Maybe charge them a percentage and of the quote ?

  • @stevedebbiemoore
    @stevedebbiemoore Před rokem

    Early is on time, on time is late, late is unacceptable!

  • @andjc72
    @andjc72 Před rokem

    unfortunately Ryan sometimes thats how it goes. As other have said mark the customers phone number and never go back, joys of working for yourself.

  • @anopraca
    @anopraca Před rokem

    Enjoy the coffee Kacper and mr Electisian i don't know the name of 😂🙈
    Im fibre data telecoms engineer and i do feel yoyr pain , its a great thing that wasn't the only job of a day

  • @richardhennessy7684
    @richardhennessy7684 Před rokem

    She's a Messer mate you've dodged a bullet there just be thankful you only have a bit of time invested as opposed to time, effort ,cable and accessories. She ain't gonna be a good customer/payer. If she contacts you again just say you're too busy.

  • @herrtomas6729
    @herrtomas6729 Před rokem

    I'd be tempted to invoice for a cancellation (tongue in cheek); if she pays, great, if not... take it on the chin. If nothing else, you may be able to offset a non-paid invoice against your tax?
    Did you buy any materials? Invoice those, tentatively, as well.

  • @TheMartyMarf
    @TheMartyMarf Před rokem

    Regardless, if I asked you to come and quote me, I’d be available to fit around your time as long as we both could do it. Well in advance. I’d charge for wasted time if I went to a meeting to be turned around on the way. You’re doing them a favour by not charging for the quote if you don’t get the work. Btw, if you’re Watford way any time, let me know - happy to go through the app too.

  • @johnmcfadden7418
    @johnmcfadden7418 Před rokem

    There is nothing you can do the client is not obliged to go ahead at any stage unless a contract is drawn up and even then some clients will not pay as it was there intension to never pay and they will know it will cost you a lot more to recover through the courts. Hopefully we do not get many off them so move on and forget her.

  • @kriskay2771
    @kriskay2771 Před rokem +1

    Just leave it mate. When you calm down you'll make the correct decision.
    Never respond in anger... also keep her sweet and when you do eventually quote and get the job tuck her up for the time wasted when she cancelled the first meeting. Don't get mad get even 🤣

  • @dpyles9396
    @dpyles9396 Před rokem

    You should tell her you are no longer interested in working for her if she contacts you again. No way I would ever book a job from her again.

  • @CraigJFW
    @CraigJFW Před 11 měsíci

    That’s the type you get on fb all a waste of time. I don’t even look at fb msgs anymore. At least you haven’t spent time looking at it then pricing it only to never hear back

  • @woody8942
    @woody8942 Před rokem

    Hi rob hope all is well buddy trying to catch up on vids as been in hospital again, well buddy before mobile phones we would be standing at the front door knocking then going to a phone box lot harder back in the 80s before all the technology now ,,,,,,,,she knew her work load and like us all when we have a lot on we can have a slip up but when a time is confirmed then it’s a done deal and rob there no harm in letting her know that your time is your money and for her to appreciate you being up to your word and not to let you know 30 mins before time ,, anyway you be safe and god bless x woody

  • @ms.electrical
    @ms.electrical Před rokem

    Unfortunately part of it , I would just say thanks for letting me know due to the short notice we were already on the way just to indicate to them they have put you out, cuz some ppl just don’t realise and will just re arrange and think nothing of it, might make her think more about it if she asks for a re arrange i would say yes but its £ to cover the lost fuel ect of last time …balls in her court then n at least if she re books its not another free-be , I have had a few pol say thats fine in the past its bot being unreasonable

  • @solidus784
    @solidus784 Před rokem

    Shit happens, never go back, not worth it someone that flaky is going to be a painful client.

  • @justinHTE84
    @justinHTE84 Před rokem

    Thought you’d be on a full time wage off Unilite looking at this video anyway mate 😂

  • @asanders
    @asanders Před rokem

    I’d call her and explain that it’s wasted two hours of your time. If she’s a cow, invoice her for an hour for the quote. It’s still lost income and you’re entitled to it - the quote is free because it’s an opportunity to bid for the work. If she’s decent then bury it and move on.

  • @hartleymclaren3210
    @hartleymclaren3210 Před rokem

    I would have ignored her message and turned up for a look anyway if I was near it.

  • @chrisbuildelectrics4755

    Don't worry about it your still alive and kicking more to life then whinging about a job you may or may not got

  • @SME_Ste
    @SME_Ste Před rokem

    Facebok messenger, well thats the first mistake, 😮

  • @stevoc9930
    @stevoc9930 Před rokem

    Go and get a Fry up.

  • @tomspurling4358
    @tomspurling4358 Před rokem

    Get out and sort the back of ya van out. Invoice the apprentice for 2 hours graft!

  • @fredwardofalconist4th454

    Go cafe 😂

  • @MrChickenking44
    @MrChickenking44 Před rokem

    Your going to get time wasters, if people are serious they will get hold of you. Seemed like it wasn’t important to them if they didn’t have the front to message you straight after you sent over the reminder. Everybody has there phone glued to them and I hate it when they ignore messages.
    Look at it this way, if they can’t even manage to arrange to meet you for a job properly how are they gonna arrange to pay you.

  • @scottsparky1
    @scottsparky1 Před rokem

    it's a quote not a job get over it, now get your self of to the cafe for breakfast

  • @cag9284
    @cag9284 Před 19 dny

    Annoying.. but it is what it is 🤷🏻‍♂️
    Get yourself a big breakfast lol

  • @FFT_Electrical
    @FFT_Electrical Před rokem

    Not everyone is glued to Social Media apps or checking emails 24x7... I find a text message is more effective as a reminder

    • @RDavisElectrical
      @RDavisElectrical  Před rokem

      Didn’t have her phone number

    • @martinceplak6709
      @martinceplak6709 Před rokem

      @@RDavisElectrical social media as mesenger,viber,etc is the sama as SMS...JUST SAYING🙈