Obscura Operation $50 Budget Upgrade | Precon Power-Up (Esper Combat Damage)
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- How much can we improve the Obscura Operation Precon for just $50? We're going to be adding combat damage triggers, evasion, and some solid win conditions to this deck!
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Some decent upgrades. Though I think I'll just make mine a janky infect deck.
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My favorite creature for Kamiz is Spawning Kraken, even when its the only Sea Monster in the deck it is insane. You choose it to be unblockable with Connive and it turns into a 7/7, makes a 9/9 Kraken and next turn you can jump up to choosing the 9/9 to be unblockable, and the 7/7 to have double strike. It’s very likely you are making at least two more 9/9’s from there, copy Kamiz and there is your win.
Been waiting for this one for a LONG time
I've been subbed to you nerds since way back last June, but I wanted to wait for this message on my birthday because the nerds ALWAYS wish a happy frickin birthday to everyone whose birthday it is. Very few channels have the engagement and charisma to hold me for this long and this channel has almost single handedly pulled me back into Magic and straight into commander. I'm still working out kinks to play consistently but I'm super excited to find a good playgroup and try it out
Thank you nerds. As soon as I find myself another job I'll be financially supporting you as well
So glad to hear that you're back to enjoying magic, and happy birthday!
I really like lazav the multifarious in this deck. He adds an additional layer of fun, when he is on the field and has some nice targets with the other creatures in the deck, especially since kamiz lets you discard.
That is a cool little combo
Great video y'all. I think the only cuts I disasgree with are Cephalid Facetaker, Obscura Charm, Currency Converter, and possibly Dusk//Dawn.
Cephalid Facetaker - You're copying the best attack ability on the field, including your opponents' creatures. It'll also be your double striker.
Obscura Charm - IMO this card is just way too versatile to cut. You mentioned not having enough counters, and there's one built in here. The first mode can also be relevant based on build (revive Thief of Sanity, Satoru, Shadowmage, etc.). The third mode is helpful removal.
Currency Converter - You're basically discarding a card every turn, and this is a way to turn those discards into treasures or Rogue tokens for FREE. The loot ability probably won't be used much, but it can help if you're digging out of a hole.
Dusk//Dawn - I pretty much only use the Dawn side, so I can see why you cut it. However, it's an easy way to get more value off of what you discard and creatures that died. On average I'm getting back about 3-4 creatures every time it's cast.
Don't understand the hate for Facetaker? Have it become a guaranteed unblockable double strike of any of your good combat damage triggers? Imagine hitting them with a Lord of the Void or wrexial or silent blade oni double strike that is basically guaranteed with only needing your commander in play as well as one of the previously mentioned creatures
I'm with you on this one. I don't need much of a reason to run that card.
I Said this last video, they Just want easy content without actually studying the precon/card interaction
A shame, I was feeling a huge potential in this Channel, not the First time I got disapointed
Shhhhh! I want to be able to buy a bunch of them for a cheaper cost. I don't mind if they poop on this card. If the cost of the card drops, the better it will be for me.
@@gutofercos just because someone doesn’t like a card certainly doesn’t mean they only reach for easy content. Sounds like you have issues that have nothing to do with this, and it’s projecting here. Hope you figure it out friend. Remember, when you have a library of 20,000+ cards to choose from, not everyone will see them equally. If you don’t like their opinion, that’s ok. Go make your own deck. The nerds say all the time that these are opinions and never the “be all end all”. No reason to bash their entire channel simply because you don’t like their opinion.
@@justynwclark "i don't like this cards" =\= "this card is absolut garbage"
Sometines you Just want to release your content fast to get hype, nothing wrong with this.
But this deck is a "damage triggers tribal", saying that a unblockable copy for three mana is an "absolut garbage" is Far from reality.
I'm not projecting anything here, Just a little upset. This was my favorite Mtg Channel, seeing this makes me feel bad.
Seems like they search for cards ppl are talking about Just tô trash talk... Is smuggler's share a bad card too? It os getting more and more Common to see they saying bad things of the most talked cards
I'm honestly surprised you didn't add Raffine and Queza in this list as added lethal threats.
I have managed to build it up around infinite turns, with Tivit, Time sieve, Medomai and Satoru (but it actually gets boring after a few times cuz you are playing alone basically). But Kaito Shizuki its a good card to add. When you get the emblem, whenever you deal damage with a creature (commander makes one unblockable and another double strike) you can search your library for any blue or black creature and then put it on the battlefield. You are basically adding so much value to the table.
I love this channel so much. great work guys i now know what precon im buying.
This deck was already pretty playable, definitely far and away ahead of bedecked brokers.
Great suggestions for cuts, I might not have everything suggested for adds but the cut suggestions are good
I think on the note of wonder, glory and filth are good semi budget adds for the deck. So excited to try building a deck with these upgrades, I've wanted a combat damage trigger commander for a while and this one looks great.
Not sure why you lean away from discard theme on some cards cause you WILL be discarding every turn with your commander
Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah boi! Im here for it! Bring on all the upgrades! Also do more budget locked Commander games on shuffle scuffle!
Get ready for five of these in a row lol
this one for the budget queens! i love ur channel ~*
Love the new pre-con upgrade “restrictions”!
Alela just needed the reprint in wizards eyes.
Really quickly since you challenged us to it. Identity thief is great in Obeka, since the creature stays exiled as long as you tap Obeka
Man this deck actually sounds kinda fun!
We love your cat in the lower right hand corner of the screen
She loves chilling with us during the beginning of the videos!
Glad to see my boy Consuming Aberration included, that's my Dimir pet card. I'll throw it in a deck even if it doesn't make sense!
It's a pretty strong card!
Can't remember what the name of that Sphinx that when it connects it puts your life total to 10
should I throw in midnight pathlighter? He make everything unblockable except by legendary creatures and I think that's really good since we are focusing combat tricks
One of the cards that i think is the best cheaper card that wasn't added in this upgrade is the ghost of ramirez de pietro, it turns connive into pure draw a card, and you can just get the best card back out of your yard. Since he already comes with an unblockable clause, he just gets better if you slap double strike on him. Also, since we're on a budget, varragoth is another thing i think people should be considering, a repeatable demonic tutor, that we are able to get back out of our yard with various connive synergies. Also i think you guys are very wrong about identity theft, you can stack the attack triggers so you can double up your relevant attack triggers, this is the kind of deck for the card. I think the general curve is still too high, 3.54 is slow, gotta get that down to 3-3.20 imo
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I'm not a fan of quietus spike because it cost 3 mana and equip is also 3 mana, so you wont drop it on turn 3 , you gonna drop a creature and you are not gonna drop it on turn 4 because that is when commander is getting in. Instead of spike I would put in vorpal sword, why cut your opponent in half when you can cut him whole. Also drumbellower and dowsing dagger are great addition to the deck
I found this video before the discord notification let’s go
That's impressive!
“Life insurance very good card, but no way to mitigate life loss”
So we’re just gonna ignore the whole extort thing that’s printed on the card or...?
Does someome have a quick list of what got pulled out
Happy birthday draper 🎉🎈🎉
Please do cabaretti cacophony! (Perhaps with Jetmir as commander?) Love you guys, great content!
This week is ALL precon power ups!
I actually really like most of these precons just wish the sphinx was the commander of this one love the design of that card
I'm gonna make it my commander
The sphinx is STRONG, love the voting support
First upgrade I made was switching the commander to Tivit immediately :P
Been a subscriber for awhile but looking to see how good a deck I built is. Would it be possible to get your opinions on my deck?
How does the Satoru and Medomai combo cost 8 mana if every turn you’re spending 2UB?
You can pick these up at big retailers for 50 msr
Can you do a 2022 deck tech for The Mimeoplasm?
Strixhaven stadium as a hidden win-con?
maybe its just my brain but can medomi attack for the extra turns to trigger ninjutsu again? so its really only a 2/3 turn extra turn combo?
You can ninjutsu an unblocked card in and then ninjutsu it out after it deals damage. And then on the second turn you ninjutsu in medomi, and get another turn. Then do that infinite times
Identity thief fits in ranar the ever watchful
I tossed this guy, raffine and toluz in my Sefris cycle/reanimator deck. Probably not worth, but very fun getting an unblocked big boy and a double striking archon of cruelty.
Daring saboteur is 2 mana. Don’t think it’s very good, but it does have that going for it.
I was confused as to why the Counsels dilemma alternate commander managed to stay in. Am I missing something or is it synergistic and I just didn't know it was.
When it enters OR deals combat damage, its enables the voting. If you have double strike on it (from Kamiz) itll activate twice each turn. Therefore netting you up to 9 votes since you can vote an additional time.
Esper is always fun.
aren't the precons on Amazon for 38$ still?
What about turning this into a crazy Rogues/Ninjas Deck?? :)
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Dang $60? They were $50 on base here in Okinawa
Shout-out to Moxfield Tags!
Tags are the best tool in the multiverse for deck building.
I see people go on EDHrec and try to build around a commander. They say 'I put in the three enchantments, four artifacts, 7 sorceries, and 5 instants it said a deck for this commander should have'. But that misses the point. You need to measure your removal, your card draw, your ramp. Tags make that possible.
Moxfield is the best.
You can do the same thing on archidekt
I've been doing this stuff mentally for years. Like with a notepad and a calculator and my brain. It's not a hard as you think and you learn your deck waaaay more than any website will ever allow. Admittedly, it takes time, but it's the worth it. It feels good to know you didn't need to have your hand held thru the building process.
I don't know where you two are located but I only paid $40 for my deck. I don't know where you two got $60 from.
No duelist heritage?
Love breena ^.^
Hopefully, I can find this precon now that smugglers share is $30
Oskar stays in because when you connive youll be discarding a card.
Don’t sleep on Daxos of Meletis. Equip Quietus Spike while he has a +1/+1 counter on him
Needs more Needle Specter
I never realized before today how much one of my former coworkers looks just like Rankle, I wonder what she would think of that...
TCG link isn't the full list, just saying.
Came here to say this I’m sure they’ll fix it soon
Its...not supposed to be
The full list is the moxfield link
These are 60 dollars now? Fuck that, what is HasbrotC doing?
Yeah they are quite over priced now!
Idk about you. But in my store they are not 60$ but in range of 56$ and 36$ dollars. And most of them are 44$ so I'll get them for a decent prize :D
@@maxloggins2930 I don't think $44 is that great of a deal. Considering we could get new precons between $30-40
Whoa the precons went up?!?! Yikes (*.*)>
Yeah they also got a fancy booster in them.
@@maxloggins2930 yeah I saw that hmmm it's like I want 2 of them but 120 bucks...sighs
@@Munchie3777 maybe you can wait some time and the price may drop after the new cappena hype ends.
@@maxloggins2930 yeah I'm in no rush 2 buy anything I may get soem upgrades for my other decks 1st ^.^
Wait, is it true that these commander decks have an MSRP of SIXTY dollars??
Yes, quite unfortunate. I know personally I’ll be cutting my commander precon purchases down to maybe one a year now. Absolutely not worth keeping up with this product anymore.
No this is false, as WotC no longer publishes MSRP you have to rely on mass markets to get an accurate price tag. These decks were all at my local Barnes and Noble for $49.99* and LGS for $45.99* on the day of release. (*plus tax in PA, USA)
Yeah, I ended up finding these decks for about 50 dollars, no clue where Joe and Beezy bought any of these decks for 60 dollars, but that place ripped them off.
This precon cost $60? I only spent $45
Me buying mana drain as the upgrade
Now that's an upgrade!
I don't know. None of these precons tickle my fancy... I guess I will save some money.
These are $41 at target …
Why does everyone hate Identity Thief? It's absurdly brilliant and broken??? You can essentially exile your opponents creature under your control, and guarantee fewer blockers (or none) and deal more damage using their own creature. It's just a cheap solid creature removal turn after turn if your synergies with commander and unblocking/flying haven't synced up yet. Explain to me why it's considered bad.
Also Strionic Resonator, you don't even want to know how many games I've just obliterated with that as a combo with the precon cards. Tivet or whatever that high mana card is which causes opponents to vote on Treasure or Investigate tokens, I've amassed like 10 tokens a time on the field and just farmed an extra 6 mana minimum per turn due to retriggered its effect.
And you're hating on Profrane Command, but I've paired that with the huge mana ramp I can build and just tapped 18 mana and dealt 18 damage to 1 player, and either just nuked the best card on the field or gave myself something tanky/combo that I've discarded
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Identity thief on medomai, infinite turns, with double strike, just sayin
It wouldn’t be infinite because it copies the whole card including the name. Correct me if I’m mistaken, I just started playing
@@vRyuuzaki identity thief exils the card and becomes it. So when it hits, the trigger goes off, giving you an extra turn. Then she comes back after, next turn repeat.
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Nice!
y'all are so unnecessarily loud, I've lost all interest in watching your channel
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So turn down the audio ya boomer
They provide a good Commander advice tho.
Huh?
There are no stupid comments, only stupid people