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La Liga has a serious problem.
La Liga has a serious problem.
La Liga has a serious problem. - Hry
As a Barcelona fan: Racism is the most disgusting thing. Hating on someone just because of their skin color? Truly awful!
Whats the difference of you being some other clubs fan
@@shijukaniyankunnelkutty8779 real and barca rivalry
@@shijukaniyankunnelkutty8779 Real Madrid is the biggest rival to Barcelona. FC Barcelona was fighting against racism. It's sad that your biggest rivals have more respect for you, than other teams...
@@Sultan666. obviously racism is always wrong he's just saying despite being a rival fan he still stands with vini
@@martykiely127 so? Barca also has black players, you bringing up the rivalry doesn’t make any sense
Vizeh is quicker to yell at racists than 90% of sports media. True ally shit ngl
It's not just me, anyone with a brain are going at La Liga and they should
La liga says their doing something, but they aren’t doing s**t. They keep on letting the racists slide. If there are 4,5 occurrences in one season against one player, then you know something is f****d up. It’s almost like la liga is encouraging this behavior. Absolutely disgusting.
I think that about a few of his vids, like the one about Balotelli and the Homophobia one. Sadly quite brave considering how stuck in the past some football fans can be. I hope he's challenging many to think again
@@shekelgangiv3411 you really think you did something there buddy?
@@samtheman9000 🤡🤡🤡🖕🖕🖕🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸
Crazy how people only talk about england and italy but there is practically no action taken against la Liga, its been decades that this is happening and finally people are waking up.
Yes, some people justify by saying that other players were racially abused but no one else said a thing, even Roberto Carlos said that those things were always happening.
Sooner or later, the racism in Spain would have come up to light.
UEFA playing favoritism to La Liga because of Real Madrid is their favorite team
@@asdaligadumiani2326 if uefa favourite team is real madrid then why vini jr racism case just being worse and worse 😂 that kid literaly playing for real madrid, he's in da team, not some random dude running and wearing rm jersey in a field 😂 what a wonderfull logic 🤣🤣
After the game, Vini still went over to the young fans who were not responsible and spoke to them and signed stuff. He showed real class with suffering because of abuse but still being kind to others.
#saynotoracism
That's fantastic to see, shows the kind of person he is!
uh a Valencia fan?
@@Vizeh yeah
What abuse? I've had worse said about my mother during matches
This isn't abuse this is normal fan antagonism Vini messed up by letting it show that it bothered him
@Victor Kreig you're white I assume?
As a native Spanish Speaker myself, I can hear some people saying "dumb (tonto)" but most people saying "monkey (mono)" and doing the monkey mimmick, c'mon, they can't deny it 💀
I thought they were chanting both “mono” and “tonto” together as in “dumb monkey.”
Tho even if there were some saying “tonto” separately, they can’t really argue they were only calling him “dumb” when half the stadium is making monkey sounds.
@@HolyBlowhole Yeah, in some way they want to deny the accountability they have. Even Vini in the World Cup has scored against South Korea, a racist country, and there wasn't an incident like that.
You don't have to speak Spanish at all to hear what's actually being said. I only speak English but the "M" and "T" sounds are virtually the same in both languages. Most of the fans are chanting "momo".
As a wise Ivorian man once said "its a disgrace a f*cking disgrace"
I always read this in King Didier's accent 😂
except that b!t.chy ivorian man forgot that ballack and himself were supposed to get sent off in the FIRST leg and that the opponents were denied about 3 pens and got an unfair red card
Earlier this year there was also a racism incident with Lukaku where he got a red card for shushing the Juventus fans who were making monkey noises. Truly disgusting.
@@victorkreig6089 the monkey chants were disgusting though right?
@@victorkreig6089So the racism was justified?
@@okstopbanningmeyoutubethanks ah yes Lukaku, so based he can't stay at a single club for more than a few years
@@fernando_chadlonso it got you to write a reply so that I could see that you were a little female dog, so yes
@@victorkreig6089 "Little female dog", just say what you wanna say.
In USA, if you did something like this you would get kicked out of the stadium during the game, the stadium would ban you for life and you would most likely get fired from your job... Its absolutely insane to me that USA gets labeled as a racist nation by Europeans but in every major European league its socially acceptable to make money noises at a player. We're at least trying to fix the problem.
So you think it's okay to get fired from your job for exercising free speech away from your job? If so you are a big part of the problem. Getting kicked out of the stadium is one thing, if you are disruptive and that's the facility's policy, then so be it.
"It's absolutely insane to me that USA gets labelled as a racist nation". Be honest with yourself, you don't think that's insane.
Ironically IMO, the US has done more to combat racism than Europe (having had several more years to grapple with racial discrimination) and has thus become more progressive than most European nations in that regard. There's still a very long way to go, but Europeans clowning American racism need to take a second look at where their own countries have progressed with racial relations.
@@digitalfootballer9032 free speach and being recist is a different story if you deserved to fired for that then it's needed.
@@digitalfootballer9032 u minimizing racism to “exercising free speech” blew ur cover.
you can try to sound intelligent and profound but you’re just a small person w a small view of the world.
im glad you bring light on this shit bro, its a constant thing and hasn't ever stopped
Many other people have to be fair, I just speak what I fancy taling about on here
@@Vizeh I am also glad you are sharing your general feelings on this topic from a genuine point of view instead of taking a neutral stance on this know outdated behavior. The fact there were kids also in the stadium hearing these racial chants absolutely appalling. Unfortunately some of them are going to think it’s okay to call people these words without any consequence.
As a resident of Spain (Andalucia to be exact) I can confirm that it's not just towards blacks, but towards foreigners in general. I have Brazilian parents, and long, curly hair, and the amount of times I've had problems at work and on the streets due to people directing slurs towards me is unbelievable. So for Tebas to be saying Spain isn't racist is blatantly wrong
Who likes Spain anyways???
As a legend once said “It’s a fucking disgrace”
100%
won only one ucl and one pl 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@advikkant1755 what have you won?😂
@@advikkant1755 you're talking abt Klopp's liverpool right there, yes?
#justiceforvini it’s awful what’s happening hope he’s ok. Serie A is also quite bad too
It's bad everywhere sadly, with only time and better education will things change slowly
@@Vizeh absolutely, and it is getting better in some parts of the world
Get used to it. 90% of European countries watching football are working class native Europeans. And all of their governments have neglected them while bringing millions of illegals into their countries and give them benefits at the backs of the natives.
So natives become more and more racist against minorities. Even rich ones
A similar thing happened recently in a match Juve-Inter, where some Juve fans shouted monkey chants at Lukaku. Understandably he got upset and by rulebook the referee had to give him a yellow card, thus he couldn't play the next match in Coppa Italia. However the president of Serie A, Gravina, revoked the yellow card as unjust, thus allowing him to play. It was the first time in history a president of Serie A overruled a referee's decision. I think at least if not from some fans, there is a step in the right direction from the authorities in Serie A
My respect for the Premier League grows by leaps and bounds. The Say No To Racism campaign killed this shit dead in England (Burnley getting relegated also undoubtedly helped). Nowadays if you try this shit in a Prem stadium, you'll get booed by your own fellow fans. But Italy and Spain seem to be getting worse, with France in danger of following suit. Germany is the only one I think is pretty much free of these types of fans.
"The Say No To Racism campaign killed this shit dead in England"
Lmao no it didn't draconian censorship and borderline orwellian policing did
Ffs that POS Zaha got a 12 year old arrested because he hurt his feelings
If this is the type of thing you champion then you sure as hell deserve all the bad things that are coming down the pipe, absolutely disgusting
France is already as bad as Italy and Spain, their federation has a massive Islamophobia problem
Well, they still exist, its just that the teams that they support are lingering somewhere in no man's land.
Lmao it didn’t kill anything. It’s just forbidden. The racist movements in England are the highest since 1970. You are delusional to think racism stopped lol
Same thing would happen in France, I go to a lot of ligue 2 games and I don't think I've ever heard or seen anything racist (not saying it doesn't happen of course)
I could only imagine the pain of constantly being racially abused and still going out there and attempting to play at the highest level. Shout out to vini and super Mario. Honestly I thought this was more of a Italy thing
Sadly it's a world thing, pointing fingers at one country or organisation is not enough, La Liga is one bad example but there's many others just like it
@@Vizeh Living in Spain and being from Portugal I experienced this kind of racism, spanish people aren't used to inmigrants and a lot of people (specially football fans) blame everything with their country because of us.
I have to say 10 years ago you couldn't join villages and towns without being outcasted heavely, now it has evolved to place where most normal people dont hate foreigners but football fans are another story ahahahaa.
I still think he only got mad because he lost, there is no chance in hell in all their wins that he didn't get worse shout onto him (You can make an argument that it stacks and finally bursts). It still very ugly for fans to shout all that and become full on frenzied monkeys, I can assure you that is a faction that will never change.
PD: They don't insult him cuz he is black, just because he is from the opposition and a foreigner. Also spanish is very curse heavy when people get rallied or are joking around, that sure doesn't help one bit. If Vini was white, it would have been the same situation but with more original insults.
EDIT: 3:03 I hear "tonto" which is "dumb" + "stupid", in my best effort i can hear "Monto" which now that I think about it could be a wordplay quite easily.
EDIT2: Forgot to add, Real Madrid fans are only rooting for him because he is succeeding as a player and there is a massive spanish media campaign make him a superstar, otherwise you would see both sides chanting garbage at him sadly.
@Little G They clearly said Tonto Spain has a lot of problems because of the civil war but to call an entire country and league racist is something..
Especially when in South America you have the same issues..
@@Malgus87 No one called the country racist, just that the league has a racism problem that was very evident here. Stop putting words in people's mouths and bringing up completely unrelated points.
He is paid to be racially abused. If he doesn't like it, he can go back to Brazil. But the money is soooo sweeeet.
Vinicius has become the main target because he went from the missing clear chances meme to a wonder kid and that infuriates a lot of rivals. But LaLiga has has this problem for some time now. The Williams brothers at Athletic Club have received racist insults and online harassment. Diakhaby (València) also suffered the same abuse 2 years ago by a Cadiz player, but nobody moved a finger for him at LaLiga.
Honestly I can't be surprised we've come to this. LaLiga current president, Javier Tebas, has ties to the Fuerza Nueva party, a far right party with links to francoism and fascism and has also expressed sympathy for Vox, another more influential right wing party. He's always dismissive of racism in the stadiums and in the competition.
On the other side you have the media, who treat racism as a matter of teams and not a deep-rooted, transversal problem to the sport. With Vinicius it's become disgusting. They blame the victim on being too provocative and "look at your other black teammates who don't get into trouble". Even from madridist media, there have been columns and voices telling him to "stick to football, keep playing, focusing on the game".
These two factors are, to me, the difference between LaLiga and the Premier League. The two leagues might have the same levels of racism in the stands, but in the Premier League I perceive a unanimous opposition from every entity involved that I just don't see in the Spanish League.
I have been to EPL games, where abusive fans get singled out by other fans, and are ejected immediately, immediately. As in identified by those sat in the stands and ejected by stewards, the video of almost that entire stadium chanting abuse and only 8 bans were issued, La Liga, Serie A, RUS League, serious serious problems with fans, and with players, I perceive these leagues as being way more racist than the prem, there are bad apples here and more action should be taken but as stated in the video, this isn't about one league or the other, this is about education and normalisation, more and more, people are normalising racism, the reason we can't kick it out of the sport is simply there is too much money at stake to put a hard stop, plus not wanting to punish good fans etc, harsh examples' need to be made at every level of the clubs and their fans. Extreme yeah but I am sick of this racist fan issue, I don't get why people are so narrow minded.
It happens to Vinicius so often because people know it’ll rile him up and throw off his game. Notice how this type of behavior didn’t happen nearly as often or badly to other African players in la liga other than Vinicius
Hugo Sanchez, an ex Atleti and Real Madrid player said he went thru racism in Spain in the 80's. (He's a dark browned skinned Mexican player with curly hair) sad that this shits been going on for a long time and nothing has changed.
@@mynamejeff4683 you are jocking , Etoo, yaya tour all received racist abuse in span . These things have been going on for more than 20 years. When did you start watching football ?
I've always been a La Liga and Barca fan since I was a kid. Everyone followed the Prem but I always followed La Liga. But goddamn, this makes me wanna boycott the league. This is just disgusting, too many times this has happened, too much inaction being taken, too much tolerance and not to mention Tebas always just being such a pain in the arse. Justice is NEEDED for Vini, this legitimately makes me wanna cry, as someone who's experienced racism myself in my own continent for being a bit darker than other Asians, it sucks. I can only imagine how it is to have HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS chanting monkey noises and all to you. Goddamn
I’ve Lost interest in the league when athletico where allowed to break the league and Make new rules lol signing players past the transfer window joke of a league
@@victorkreig6089 Then Balotelli and many other players are in the wrong sport, it happens everywhere and in La Liga is very frequent.
@@victorkreig6089 They are not. Many of them are club legends and seeing that kind of act happening is disgraceful.
@@victorkreig6089 Are you just about how much money someone pays, or is it about there rights as a human. Obviously you don't understand how it feels to be dehumanised in any walk of life this kind of sick behaviour is a threat to world peace. They can pay him 10 times more, when they call him a monkey it still hurts, he is human and we are emotional creatures not robots. How people speak to us and treat us makes a big difference how we feel mentally.
@@juanfranflanslife5401 barca did that too
Almost every month I see Vini getting attacked like this 💀
As a Spaniard, unfortunately most of the Spanish teams hava a huge fascist ultras base. Only Madrid and Barcelona banned them from the stadium. Is time for the other clubs to do something. Not all of them are like this fortunately; Athletic, Sociedad, Osasuna, Rayo Vallecano, Girona... They have great fans and are constantly taking action against racism
It's awful man, the Ultra's culture has more negatives than positives at times
@@Vizeh Fortunately they have been losing power with the years, and they (MOSTLY) don't represent the fanbase of a team, but they really need to get banned from the stadiums. Atletico has one of the most disgusting ultras in the world, openly fascists and doing things like hanging a Vini doll from a bridge before a match against Madrid or drowning a fan in a river, but the club refuses to do anything about them.
@@Vizeh Unfortunately when you take a group of people and only give them coverage when they do something negative, that will set a precedent and a general image of said group. Ultras, like anyone else, have their positives too, like what they do for their clubs and communities, but where is coverage of those things? It seems like some groups deserve to be seen in a good light while others only in a bad light. Is that not discrimination in itself?
@@dirtyace1668 Exactly. Football without ultras isn't football. No one talks about how much they improve the atmosphere during matches, they only get talked about when they act stupid
As someone from Germany I wonder if that's a greater problem in Spanish society altogether tbh. I'm obviously not saying that every Spaniard is racist, please don't get me wrong, but obviously Spain had it's fair share of racist leadership like Germany or Italy did as well in the past 80 years. Here we learn a ton about WW2 in school, starting from 5th or 6th Grade basically till we graduate. Obviously we still have racists here, sadly, but overall I'd say we're doing pretty well in terms of calling out racism and making sure something like that doesn't happen. How's that in Spain? I genuinely wonder. I know Italy still today often likes to act like they didn't do anything wrong.
I’m a Spanish speaker, mother tongue, and they were saying monkey no question, this was disgusting
This is unacceptable and downright fucking disgusting. I'm a Chelsea fan and I absolutely hate watching Saka score against us, but I'm never going to endorse this shit happening to him if it ever happens. La Liga needs to take stricter action. This can't go on. And when it's a whole fucking section of the stadium, Valencia needs to play behind closed doors. That will teach them; hopefully.
Chelsea fans don’t exactly have a spotless record on the ol’ Not Being Racist front though, eh?
@@greg_nicholls the same could be said for literally every club, but go off, I guess.
It's funny that their recording themselves
This is what we call EVIDENCE
You can tell he had enough when he cried
Was tragic man
It's pretty sad that a grown man can't handle what equates to nothing more than schoolyard taunting. If you are in professional sports and you are a top player, people are going to hate on you. If it isn't your race, then it's something else. Fans are ruthless, the general public is ruthless to anyone in the public eye. Of course what these fans do is childish and inappropriate, but what are you going to do... it's just mob mentality. Just as "Agent K" said in Men in Black "A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it."
@@digitalfootballer9032 there’s a difference between taunting and racism. Don’t use that as an argument, defending racism is never justified. How would you like a bunch of rival fans taunting you with racial chants?
@@digitalfootballer9032 Vinicius is 22 and this is not schoolyard taunting. I've been to the largest universities in the world, they collectively cannot chant as loud as a football stadium. You at that age probably can't handle someone rejecting you. Let's stop trying to act tough here little guy.
@@digitalfootballer9032 You can talk when you get yelled at by thousands of people calling you an animal and telling you to die. And even when it's not race it's still disgusting because it's a bloody game at the end of the day and hurling abuse at human beings over a game is pathetic and sad and it is NOT up to the victim to just deal with it. If thousands of 12 year olds in a school decided to gather round in a circle and tell this one kid he should die I would be pretty damn alarmed. Not to mention he's literally only 22, that's not that old. So stop trying to act so tough lil bro, instead of quoting men in black maybe read a textbook and touch some grass.
We shouldn’t forget LaLigas giants are very much part of it. Real Madrid and Barcelona are both full of incidents now and in their history where they have been the ones racially abusing opposing players. Real Madrid fans even racially abused Alaba. Many people treat clubs as the victims rather than players. Careful on that front
Even Alaba !? When did that happen
@@Chinmay_Wagh he voted for Messi in a “team of the year” thing I think
@@About37Hobos that's so stupid 🤦
@@About37Hobos there s a difference between ig comments and a whole stadium chanting racial slurs towards you you dumb af
To be fair, Real Madrid and Barcelona are among the few clubs in Spain that completely banned their ultras from their stadiums (Barcelona's Boixos Nois were banned from the Camp Nou in 2004 and Madrid did the same with Ultras Sur in 2013). That's not to say some of them can't still access the stadium as casuals, but at least they have been forced to keep a lower profile and their presence and the incidents caused by them have been reduced drastically. Same can't be said for teams like Atletico and Valencia, where the radicals pretty much rule the stands and even have a degree of power and influence on the clubs themselves.
I still find it baffling that Tebas saw the abuse Vini was getting and thought "maybe Vini is at fault". Shows how normalised racism is becoming nowadays.
Spanish is my first language and I genuinely heard “tonto”. But that’s probably because in Mexico we use the word “chango” for monkey. But when you hear the noises those fans are making it’s disgraceful.
They were mimicking monkeys, there is no doubt of what happened
@@mihailcirlig8187 True the intention is there but I also def hear tonto not mono, but maybe because it's mixed between between people who said tonto/mono you can hardly make a distinction
@@rere9991 or they are just saying "dumb monkey" 🤷♂️
"Mono tonto"
@@PTS-Maid possible some did yea in the clips all I heard was tonto, except in 1 few mono.
As a Brazilian and a long time La Liga viewer, it's really annoying how prevalent it is and has been throughout the years. A lot of players were and still are attacked, but nobody do a shit about it
@@victorkreig6089 Giving opinions and being racist isn't interchangeable.
@@queenzoroark 150% wrong
Thought policing is how you end up in a gulag
Or I dunno arresting 12 year olds
But hey, if you want to threaten people for saying things you don't like we can explore that madhouse of an idea too lmao
@@victorkreig6089 Many people don't like racism though.
@@victorkreig6089 bro you are not helping yourself, are you living in the 1800? Like bro racism is a crime, your comment makes you sound like a racist, you are one for defending this type of crap.
@@KoalaZwastaken racism is not a crime lmao
Unless you're saying thoughts are illegal in which case seek mental treatment
Something needs to be done about this and the fact that FIFA OR La Liga has yet to respond or take action is more frustrating
Do you think you should be arrested for saying something bad about someone's mother when getting into an argument with them? Censorship is wrong in every possible way, if you are not careful you will end up like china
Lol fifa they allow the world cup in many questionable nation, you think they care?
It’s been a few dark days for football, first the Vini racism incident and then the stampede that happened in Cuscatlan Stadium in El Salvador where 12 fans died
Stampedes and soccer go together like festivals and colds, it's just part of it can only avoid them for so long
@@victorkreig6089 that changes the original comment how?
Your passion for addressing this is appreciated. Black people just want to be treated as normally as everyone else, thanks Vizeh for speaking on this we appreciate you bro!!
Thank you for not spelling "loser" as "loosers" Vizeh. Not really relevant to the video but I'm just tired of seeing people spell it wrong
Fr 😂
Its so sad how often this is happening in what is meant to be the beautiful game. Not only are players suffering racism they are also getting punished for reacting to it both Lukaku and Vini Jr got sent off like what are the football organisations doing by not overturning those decisions do they not realise what kind of a message that sends out, that racism is okay and that people who stand up to it should be punished for it. Absolutely vile and disgusting really makes you wonder why we call it the beautiful game.
It's terrible to see this happening to Vinicius, it's even worse when La Liga and Tebas do nothing to stop the abuse and everyone just keeps being racist.
Too busy penalizing Barcelona lmao
Whats crazy is that people only seem to care about racism when it is against another fortín country and not their own. We seen this happen way worse in the Italian league and to some extent the premier league but people don’t talk about it nearly as much. What’s disgusting is pinning it on one league rather than an issue as a whole
@@mynamejeff4683 , you're right, racism is a huge issue in other leagues, not just La Liga
in germany clubs have to play behind close doors and get fined if something like this happens. and it works. it's an incentive for clubs and normal fans to address these issues and they have done a good job. not saying there is no more racism, but i can't recall anything like this in the last 15 years, at least in the upper leagues.
what i personally find really disgusting is the people who claim this wasn't really about racism and start to blame the victim. absolute BS, racist chants are always about racism
This or last season a Hertha BSC Game was ended early because of monkey noises against one of their players.
You literally have Neo Nazi festivals in Germany lol. Just because you censor racist publicly doesn’t mean shit. It only makes people more racist. And that’s why there’s a huge rise in national socialism again in your country
I went to study in Germany in 2020-2021, the only (doubtfully) racism I experienced was a drunk homeless person yelling at me and my friend, a girl from China, over something. We couldn't really understand his German (wir sprechen ein bischen Deutsch) because he was slurring pretty bad. My friend was afraid of him, but honestly, I just laughed it off, it was just a drunken slur, no need to be offended or intimidated about it.
Yes Germany and England are doing much better than Italy and Spain in this
What's most astonishing is the reply of Tebas that directs the blame back at Vini.
This is a man that says racism in the stadiums are not my problem to deal with while at the same time punishing clubs with FFP.
I have so much respect for Vinicius. Imagine being racially abused by a whole stadium and then still having the ability to call it out and articulate himself so well on the wider issue in the country.
I know right, the chanting is actually gut-wrenching, I couldn't imagine being in his shoes.
youre right but vinicius its the most harrogant, provocative and impolite player in la liga i am real sociedads fan and we are not all like this people but you need to understand that vinicius too many times start all the fights messing with everyone ,this would happen on the premier league uf vinicius would play there
@@HUE89. no, I don’t care if he’s a cunt and if he started something. NOBODY deserves racist abuse.
It’s sad to see this in such a beautiful sport. Very good video Vizeh! I enjoy every video you make mate.
Thank you for your comment pal!
I was thinking of doing a video on this as well, it’s honestly so sad to see the beautiful game having such an ugly side. Great job on spreading awareness against racism bro. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Spain has serious "ego" problems that they wont see them as a problem, just like Javier Tebas demonstrated.
But one way to diminish racism in football is simple: point deductions. There people will think it twice before being racist.
100% correct
Censorship is for cowards
So is abusing someone because you're too shit to be able to deal with him running through your entire team, scoring and celebrating like anyone would.
@@victorkreig6089 stop licking 🥾 💀
Especially if that means a club could get relegated or lose out on European football
I understand the red card to Vini for his retaliation to the player choking him, but the guy choking him should've been sent off too.
'How do you ban half the stadium?' Exactly. Valencia certainly wouldn't want that. A lot of those people are season ticket holders. And it's not like they have millions of supporters (although I'd consider them a big club).
This is so sad, there's so many leagues around the world that would love having Vini Jr in their country
Not a lot of European leagues imo the only decent league that isn’t really racist is France 😭
@@mynamejeff4683 england ???
@@RadicalizedRadical racist, he's brazilian anyway
@@ceostreams England is one of the worst they legit threatened to kill all the black players in the English team when they lost the euros 🤣
@@mynamejeff4683 That's sad. I've seen stuff about France being a homophobic country when it comes to football, all this shit needs to end because football as a sport has brought a lot of people together
Notice how Vini never has problems with fans and opponents in the CL? You have players in La Liga like Alejo and Maffeo who are publicly racist, you have thousands of fans calling him monkey even BEFORE the game so you can't even say he is provoking the fans. Looking at Spain's past it all makes sense...
Great work highlighting what is a huge problem for certain parts of football!
Ban the entire stadium for half a season and deduct 50% of their tv revenue
The ref sending Vini off....unreal
Point deductions for the clubs where racism happens repeatedly
I would literally do anything to go back to Brazil to play if I was Vini
Racism is worse in Brazil vini would not survive a libertadores or gremio game
Even though I’m a Barça fan I respect all of the rivals players whether they be from Espanyol, Real Madrid or other clubs. I feel horrible for Vini and the fact he was sent off too? LaLiga and/or UEFA need to punish Valencia and their fans as well as revoke Vini’s red card. No questions asked.
Javier Tebas was part of Nueva Frente back in the day. It's no wonder why La Liga hasnt done anything, his views are clearly the same 😂
If Clubs are unable to get fans under control then ban the fans from games/stadiums and/or start docking points and giving fines if clubs continue to allow this that way fans can see they’re actively harming the teams they love
I used to pick Valencia in Championship Manager 2003 because I liked the names Ayala, Baraja, Aimar, Vicente, Rufete, Xisco and Mista. I am a non-Spanish so the names sounded so cool when I always picked them first eleven. It is like squad of cousins. Then I really had sympathy for Valencia following games in real life too. It is sad the image of the club in my eyes now.
La Liga and Serie A whine about not being able to keep up with premier league when it comes to talent, marketability, and revenue... wonder why. Say what you want about the prem but this shit would never fly. Players managers and investors need to see that leagues take these problems seriously. Otherwise why would you want to be associated a league that lets these things happen?
I don't know why Javier Tebas or La Liga board don't wanna do anything about these incidents. They do realize no one will come play in the league in the atmosphere is this hostile as well as affect future potential big star moves when they don't want to become victims
Does the color of skin matter .. be it white black brown .. never ever understood why people have to abuse someone for something this trivial
Thank you for covering this.
Massive point deduction to Valenica for next season.
Why delay to next season when points deduction this season may be enough to relegate them?
You can't deduct points from club for it's fans actions. You can make them play without fans or give walkover or a fine.
For what?
Imagine putting a country's economy in ruins because of what the politicians or the citizens may have said...
Sickening that there has been so litte done towards racism in la liga. Hopefully this highlights the issue and action can be done.
Censorship is for cowards and idiots
Sticks & Stones
I live in Spain and casual racism is unfortunately still a thing here, so who can you report the racism to?
Its not just racism. Its the whole culture of hating the opposite team and making that known in every way possible. Not only racism should be addressed but also all the other things that are done or shouted.
Go ahead and try to police the entire league
Nah you should just stop caring about sports then if you seriously believe that
Sports is about passion, anger and frustration is part of that passion; if people aren't allowed to dislike opponents then what the actual fuck is even the point of playing sports?
@@bigzclipz5104 Well in the netherlands we have a new policy when people throw cups on the field a game can be suspendend. I think its very drastic but it works eventually bcs of the consequences. But stopping people shouting things is impossible indeed.
@@vincentboersma6566 well throwing cup that different because players and fans can get hurt
@@bigzclipz5104 And verbal abuse doesn't apply to this somehow? I mean, that alone is a domino effect that can lead to a whole bunch of different things.
For the people saying that they are chanting tonto (idiot) instead of mono (monkey) - they are doing both. My best guess is that they’re chanting tonto to cover their asses but both words are audible. I’ve also seen some people defend it by saying mono has other meanings - stop that. We all have the brain capacity to know what meaning they are using when chanting it at Vini along with the monkey sounds
Personally, I feel some are actually chanting Tonto and sadly others are chanting Mono
A similar thing happened recently in a match Juve-Inter, where some Juve fans shouted monkey chants at Lukaku. Understandably he got upset and by rulebook the referee had to give him a yellow card, thus he couldn't play the next match in Coppa Italia. However the president of Serie A, Gravina, revoked the yellow card as unjust, thus allowing him to play. It was the first time in history a president of Serie A overruled a referee's decision. I think at least if not from some fans, there is a step in the right direction from the authorities in Serie A
The valencia fans though they were right for dingue this. Valencia's reputation has bien doomed because of these fans.
I think Real Madrid should really think about protesting the league and just not showing up for games or collectively walking off if this kind of thing happens again at least. We’ve seen similar things like with the Demba Ba situation a while ago and I think it sends a message that they really don’t tolerate it and won’t give the league the money. We all know Perez is looking to get out of the league so I think it’s a good time for him to use this as an excuse
That would make them the biggest hypocrites ever. I agree something has to be done against the racism, but Real has just as many racist fans as any other Spanish Club. It's just way to deep rooted in society there.
@@TheMarslMcFly yeah obviously but if they start coming down on their own fans and stop showing up to play it doesn’t just hurt the Spanish FA it shows their own fans too they don’t tolerate it
They should play games behind closed doors until fans learn their lesson.... but that will never happen
Money over players, its a well known football fact nowadays
as a valencia fan, this is disgusting
As soon as I saw the notification of this video, I stopped whatever I'm doing and immediately watched the video. I don't even mind watching it 5 times tonight. Thank you once again for the content, Vizeh and keep it up my brother. Love from SA 🇿🇦
As a Liverpool fan even know he scored the cl winning goal he should get a rest to recover maybe even leave la liga if this isn't sorted out like it should stop
Oh please, if you're a liverpool fan you shouldn't be saying this at all
Hillsborough bantz exist then so can this
They're actually saying "Tonto" which is stupid, but there were those who saying "Mono" as well.
What were the monkey sounds and the monkey caption on the video? A misunderstanding as well?
@@clarenceonyekwere5428 I'm not excusing that, don't get blinded by rage. I'm just giving context on a word.
@@winterfellyt I am not blinded by rage. I am just sayin the word "silly" (instead of monkey) doesn't fit in with making monkey noises. If they had been saying the word without the noises and gestures, this explanation would have been easier to accept.
It is a big stadium, it is possible that some people were saying silly, but it looks very likely that a significant number of people were saying "monkey", especially within the context of making monkey noises.
If this happend in england uefa would probbaly ban english fans in attending champions league games but its not in england so they dont do anything
Wow never been this early, thanks for the awesome content Vizeh, keep it up man i love the videos.
Thank you man!
@@Vizeh no problem man, loved the Premier league history video, it would be cool if you did that for other leagues like Champions league, la Liga, seria A and maybe Bundesliga.
My question is, What in the actuall fuck was Benzema as the captain of the team doing. Your teammate, your comrade is getting racialy harashed, am not saying grab your people and start giving out punches left and right but man up for fuck sake. As the captain grab your team and resign from the match, i know the captain role lost meaning with the years but holy shit its sad to see. I dont care what implications resigning has but some stuff are larger than that.
Even with them saying tonto in around 3:09, that still means dumb, moron, or fool, which is not any more ok than chanting mono
Remember that they throw bananas too, shit is crazy. Sometimes you gotta ban fans and be forced to play at an empty stadium as punishment.
I think clubs should be heavily fined and matches in empty stadiums should be implemented. Clubs won’t do anything until their finances are hit.
Didn't know that so many Valencia fans were like this and was genuinely disappointed to see what Peter Lim did to the club, now I want the club to get relegated...
I'd never brush an entire fanbase based on one event but in this situation is really does not look good
@@Vizeh As a Valencia fan, I am disgusted, and embarrassed by the racist fans. Most of us are not racist, it is just the racist ones that ruin it for everyone.
@@Gideon39 A segunda la temporada que viene, a llorar 🤫🤣🤣
@@superyoshi_13thebasileus59 Bruh, we will not get relegated. It is looking pretty good for us.
La Liga has to start making clubs play behind closed doors to stop this. Fines and banning individuals isn’t enough.
I think a points deduction might help curb the problem, cause when they realize their stupidity can cause their team a serious points penalty the idiots might hold up
As for this video though, mate. A masterpiece, racism is unforgivable in any context, I think of England as being a country with a real racism problem and I'm not saying it's not, however when you hear racist abuse in England it's usually dealt with pretty quickly and strongly and is note worthy in national news, from this video it sounds like it's a pretty common issue in Spain. I respect the hell out of how you have transitioned from FIFA videos to being one of the best documentary style football channels on CZcams mate. Keep up the good work!
As for future videos I'd love to see, the fall and rise of Stockport County could be a good video! I'm biased I know but we were looking at the League 1 playoffs before we entered admin, got relegated twice in a row out of the football league for the first time in over 100 years, 2 years later relegated again to regional football for the first time. Stagnated for 6 years, got our act together financially slowly rebuilt, won the Conference North in 2019, in January 2020 we were taken over by an incredibly wealthy owner with ambitions of getting to the championship. Nearly made the playoffs in 2020 before covid, won the conference after an epic title race in 2022 and now we're in the League 2 playoff final and trust me Mark Stott's ambition doesn't end there!
Im a Burnley fan and have been here since the beginning. I once met you in the prinny and we had a chat. Id love you to talk about teams that collapsed in recent years like Scunthorpe while possibly talking about the rise of teams such as luton UTC
Ancelotti apparently said he wanted his players to leave the pitch, but he wasn’t allowed due to the rules or something
In a case like this Valencia case where the whole stadium was involved. 3 home games behind closed doors
2nd offense 5 home games + 1% of broadcast revenue for the season (or something similar)
3rd offence: Same ban + 3 point deduction + 5% of position related broadcast revenue at the end of the season.
Only way clubs can avoid blame is to stop offence proactively or fish out perpetrators if not possible.
% of Broadcast revenues sound harsh but folks in non-white countries pay TV money that forms part of these revenues, if we assume such behavior getting too bad will affect viewership, such punishment makes sense.
Once it hurts club's purses, they'll figure it out.
I believe the punishment Valencia should receive is that when they play real Madrid in the following season (the Valencia home leg) it should be played in an empty stadium, that way Valencia lose potential ticket money and the team loses the home field advantage. They can't keep tolerating this behaviour. They need REAL punishments!
I feel we're coming to the point that in a footballing context, we should be bringing points deductions, might seem harsh but i do feel people have asked for this, banning people for life isnt doing anything, might as well effect the one thing these people love, their club. If their club is missing out on Europe, not winning a title or getting relegated because they're being shameless assholes then its their own fault, and i mean any form of racist or discriminatory chants, anything that causes a player or match official whoever to want to leave a stadium or feel threatened, the club in question should be punished
Somehow Tebas will say that this is the Premier Leagues fault.
Valencia CF, in line with the club’s permanent commitment against racism and violence in all forms, announce that the police has identified a fan who made racist gestures at Real Madrid’s Vinícius Jr in the Matchday 35 match at Mestalla on May 21st. The club are also working along with the police to confirm the identity of any other potential offenders.
From the moment that the unfortunate events occurred, the club have analysed all the available footage, working alongside the authorities as rapidly as possible to clarify what happened in order to be able to act quickly and forcefully.
Valencia CF have proceeded to open a disciplinary case, will apply the maximum level of severity, including a lifetime stadium ban against the fans involved, and is working closely together with the authorities.
The club strongly condemn this type of behaviour, which has no place in football and society and does not correspond to the values of Valencia CF and our fans.
Valencia CF have taken a strong stance against racism and have previously acted with the same forcefulness in 2019, with a lifetime ban for a fan who made fascist gestures to Arsenal fans in a UEFA Europa League game
I'm gonna write in Spanish because I want to express myself as good as I can:
La verdad que en España tienen un grande. El primer problema es el orgullo que manejan al ofenderse cuando los llaman "pais racista". Hay racismo en todos los países porque hay rasistas en todos los países pero la diferencia la hace los países y las instituciones que tienen que manejar éstas situaciones. Vinicius es millonario, es de los mejores jugadores del mundo, si el quiere se puede ir del país y de paso deja una marca en la historia de La Liga; pero las victimas reales son todas las personas que son discriminadas y no tienen una mansión donde quedarse o una manera de irse del país, o dejar de ir al colegio o dejar ir al trabajo. Las acciones de La Liga son repudiables porque no se hacen cargo de los accionistas de su público. Tienen que ser claro, tienen que ser concisos. Yo no puedo decir que hacer acá porque no soy nadie, pero sé que cobrar 500 pesos al equipo implicado por hacer semejante acto es un chiste. El equipo son los jugadores, es el estadio y es el publico; los fans. Si España no quiere ser llamado un país racista que entonces tome acciones para tratar el problema que son sus habitantes racistas.
Can't lie your football videos are so interesting bro that's only thing keeps me going at night 😂😂😂
Thank you man!
@@Vizeh 👊
In the video they are clearly saying Tonto.
Which means idiot while other fans did make monkey chants.
I cannot belive that stuff like dis still happends
#JusticeForVini
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Hope those responsible are held accountable, and that includes the club. I would expect minimum games played behind doors, fines and even point deduction (due to Valencia player retaliatory actions). It disgusts me that this behaviour continues in football.
Why would he get in trouble for "retaliatory actions"?
In most cases of carding players the initiator is the one that gets the harshest punishment it has always been that way because they are the ones who escalated the situation. Vinni over reacted like an idiot and got carded for it, why anyone thinks he shouldn't have is beyond me. There are very strong rules about interaction with fans and always has been, FIFA goes out of it's way to have every league shove those rules into the players faces as much as possible to minimize incidents as much as possible, Vinni knew this and lost his head, he got punished for it plain and simple
@@victorkreig6089 because the reaction by the GK to grab Vini and the other player to put him in a choke hold are not excusable. If they were trying to calm Vini down and separate him from the crowd they completely failed. If those players ignored the racial taunts from the crowd and couldn't read that Vini was distressed and angered by the taunts, then they are part of the problem. Vini had obviously reached a tipping point after copping it from other club supporters for months, not to mention a hanging effigy. La Liga have done minimal and it's now got to this point. Players who point out racial abuse should not be punished for it.
@@ShadeyFella lmao your bias is showing
The rules state not to taunt the fans plain and simple, the rules are even harsher for players that ignore this rule in Italy.
Had he not lost his cool no ody would have ever tou he's him therefore they aren't going to see anything because that's how the rules work
Vini needs to grow up, you don't see Tyrell Malacia getting mad when people talk trash to him, you don't see him get mad when players on the field do it either. Because he grew up, Vini still hasn't done that
@@victorkreig6089 Rules are rules, but when you're constantly being taunted and targeted for your skin colour, emotions will boil over. Vini has been copping this for months while La Liga have done minimal to stamp it out in their competition. I hope Vini's red card is overturned, Valencia are punished, and La Liga seriously act on this growing stain.
There's following the laws, then there's considering human nature. Both need to be considered equally in this event.
@@ShadeyFella "for your skin color"
Cry more, taunts are taunts the content doesn't matter
Isn’t this sport supposed to be the one that brings the whole world together even despite our differences? Our differences are what makes humanity beautiful. It’s not something to tear each other down for. People are gonna be different than you, whether it’s racially, culturally, sexually, humans are diverse, its not something to fight its something to love and accept.
Trust me dude im from Spain, from Madrid more precisely, they were not saying “tonto” spanish people are God damn awful when it comes to recognizing how racist our society can be, and actually is, its actually disgusting, and when you call them out they get SO offended its annoying
Rare Spanish W, thank you brother.
This is absolutely awful and action should be taken against fans who did this by banning them from all league matches. However I do believe that as professional athletes, vini shouldn't have let the fans get to him. His best reply wouldn't have been to confront them rather to prove them wrong by being his best self.
Vinicius provoked them first. I am not in any way defending racist behaviour, it is not right for people to default to racism when provoked, but vinicius is not this little angel you think he is. He is a sore loser and provokes a lot of fans. Before valencia fans started chanting he shushed them and told them they will be relegated. He deserved to be booed but not racially abused.
Commented this because you might not watch la liga and dont know the whole story. Video seems a bit rushed
am a 11 yr old black kid and at my school ppl be calling me monky, and browney and they are the ppl in my class am sorry this generation is the same as the last
Absolutely disgusting!
How people can stoop that low to bring up something like race, religion, sex ect is beyond me!
This is a disgrace, Give them all points deductions empty stadiums fines bans relegation
Its not the clubs wrongdoing, its the fans
Do you think the entire club and fanbase should be ostracized for the actions of few individuals? Would you be ok for being punished for something someone else did or said who lives in the same city as you?
Thats why LaLiga is not a serious league just some racist people gathering
It can also be 'Mono tonto' or stupid monkey, which add further insulting context to this disgusting incident. La Liga and Serie A had this problem for decades and still to this day it's getting worse.
No es fútbol. Es La Liga!