*3D PRINTED* SPECIALIZED S-WORKS ROMIN EVO MIRROR SADDLE (WHAT WOULD YOU SPEND TO BE COMFORTABLE?)
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I went through about 8 saddles in my first few years of cycling. I even tried a few other 3-D saddles, the Specialized Power and the Fizik Adaptive but they weren't quite it for me. Then I tried this one, the Romin Evo Mirror. They have improved it with twice as many struts and nodes (more cushioning) while still supportive and just as light. On my first few rides it was pretty good but I wasn't 100% sure. So I put my old one saddle back on, a Selle Italia, and I couldn't believe how hard it was right at the start. I did one ride, put the Evo Mirror back on, and now I'm done looking for saddles. I guess I just needed a few rides to get used to the shape. Now I'm dialed in. It's amazing!! It feels the same at the end of a 3-hour ride as it did after the first 30 minutes! I never could stay in the saddle without a break for more than 60-90 minutes at a time, but now I just ride and I don't care at all about the saddle because I always feel pretty close to how I felt at the start of the ride. It was a very high price, but I won't miss the money anymore and I will always enjoy the saddle. And because it's not foam or gel it won't break down. I can ride with it for years. If you have the money try one.
PS: I have a bunch of these in stock
hopefully one day they will trickle down his technology and make a ti rail saddle at expert price point for $200........ this saddle is something for everyone to be able to try
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Haha I’d love to buy one if it ever came into stock locally.
I just got myself a power mirror. But would love to try the romin
Do you have a 143?
Can't wait to try it out..I just brought the POWER MIRROR PRO version(latest version without the carbon rails) online..the store was having a labor day sale which took off $100.00 and used their discount code as well..paid only 224.95..
I love the SWorks Power Saddle, I had a issue with the Romin Pro on my SL4 and got it on the suggestion of some friends.
they are nice
One of the many expensive upgrades that id say are actually a worth it
:) it is a dream to ride
Getting ready to purchase the S Works Romin Evo Mirror. Riding a Romin now and love it, hoping the mirror technology holds up to the hype. 🤞🏼 Thanks for the vid GC!😎🤙🏼
I hope so too! have a good day
This technology will eventually be used to 3D print custom saddles specific to your anatomy. I have the Mirror Power saddle. It's definitely comfortable
yea they are very nice
I'm a heavy guy so saddle contact point is definitely a weak spot for me. So far I've tried the regular Power Mirror, but it's short nosed so either the postion works for you or not. For comparison, the Fizik Adaptive 3d printed saddle is much longer so you can sit on the front of it when you're in the aero position for example (I use clip-on tri bars for long-distance rides). The romin evo mirror looks to be equivalent to the Fizik one - with longer nose so I'm very keep to try it out too.
Yea it is meant for more aggressive and lower position
Awesome, thank you sir!
:)
I’ve got the power mirror on my SL7. I can attest to it being supremely comfortable, the most comfortable saddle I’ve ever used. That said, I used loyalty points to buy it, so I got off easy. Even though I’ve got one, I can’t tell you I think it’s worth $450. Unless money is no object (or you’ve got points!), I think folks would be just happy with a fitted s-works non-mirror.
How long have you had your Power Mirror? Do you think the tech holds up for multiple years of riding? Would love to know if it is durable or wears quicker than the normal version
@@Jeppelelle I've had it since April 2021, about 5k miles so far, and I've not noticed any unreasonable wear and tear. Feels the same as when I bought it.
@@ZachGrabill Thanks for the reply. Good to hear that it is holding up well, looks fragile with those thin "ribbons" but i guess they are not as fragile as i believed so maybe it is time for me to stop hesitate & get one. The price is absurd but if it's fixes my bum pain then it's worth it 👍
Yea it is an amazing saddle
How is the saddle after one year? Thanks!
Best!
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You asked and I abided. Thumbs up and I subscribed. Informative no BS content GC👍🏻.
yoooo thank you so much!!! I appreciate it :)
I just bought this saddle took it out for a quick spin initial view is positive (im replacing Fizik Arione vs carbon for ref) ...
Yes it's definitely softer in the channel, but very supportive. One comment, not mentioned, is it is VERY breezy down on your undercarriage. (I imagine that's construction and channel. I can see positives in summer, TBC in other seasons!!
Bought the saddle for my Sworks Roubaix. VERY comfortable, love it. Had the lower the saddle height just slightly, now I’m trying to get rid of seat post creaking. Any ideas?
it is so nice right... it is expensive but worth it if you have it........ take it out and clean it and grease it or add some friction compound
@@GCPerformance18 yep! Cleaned and set the torque correctly. All good. Thx….btw, love your channel! Second Specialized purchase I’ve made from your reviews. First was the Sworks Roubaix 👍
Hi, Is it possible to have the height between the bottom of the rail and the hollow of the saddle? And possibly compare with a romin sworks? Thx in advance. Regards.
I have a berk lupina padded saddle 100g and very comfortable through the special carbon shell.
As long as it works for you
@M570 1000 Miles on a hardtail no problems. i weigh 63kg though ;)
@M570 63kg. Dirt and mudd no Problems
I've owned both the sworks and mirror power saddles. The mirror didn't impress me; maybe it's because I don't ride more than 2hrs at a time. I ended up selling the mirror and keeping the sworks.
Yea, there’s no right or wrong to it. It all comes in for preference
I use the 3D printed Fizik saddle. I love it.
yea they are so nice, anythig 3d printed is nice
Whats that Fizik called? I had the Aliante, my worst saddle ever, felt like there was a splitting maul between my cheeks, and the Argo Vento which I like a lot.
@@daryl4841 Fizik Antares Versus Evo 3d printed and you have different options. 00 (best and most expensive model full carbon used by legend such as Egan Bernal), R1 which has carbon rails and R3 which has metal rails.
Thanks for the video, how would you compare it to the Fizik Antares?
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thank you luis!!! I appreciate you
Awesome 👍
Thank you! Cheers!
I’m one of the few persons that’s going to change the Romin Mirror back to the S-works Romin evo.
I’m not a heavy person (1m93 and 75kg) but i have a lot off more pressure with the mirror version.
Let me explain it a little bit: I found that the mirror versions are more made for persons that sit at the same position continuously. I’m a person that is continue moving on the saddle (i’m also riding more at the tip of the saddle) and how more i went to the tip how more pressure i had in comparison with the normal Romin Evo version.
Also i had problems with the mirror romin in combination with my Maap bibshorts. After a couple rides the wear was enormous. Maybe a combination of the 3D printed stuff and my lot of moving on the saddle.
I don’t have this wear with the normal Romin Evo.
yea i have heard form a number of people they od not like the extra squishy material it almost rubs them and bothers them in a weird way
BIG THUMBS for this video! :-)
Thank you!!!
Did roval rapide handlebar in your store? Please do a review, Im tired waiting the aeroflybar ii restock it seems like it discontinued, please do a test is it compatible with venge stem? Thanks man
just did a video on it
Just bought the saddle yesterday just because it's the most expensive one in the shop😂
hahahah huge flex of the week
I think I want to try this saddle on my 2021 Trek Domane SL7. Currently has 7X7 round clamp ears. Trek sells 7x10 ears. But the saddle claims it uses 7x9 oval rails. Will the 7x10 ones work on this saddle?
yeait is no problem I have people running this saddle on there madones and emondas right now with no issues
Fizik have developed a similar saddle in its Antares range, maybe dem the two?
yea they are similar
So far only saddle I could actually use without discomfort was aliante. Is this saddle kinda comparable? Anyone tried both?
I have not heard of the saddle u are refferencing but this saddle I have had such great feedback form all the customers who buy it
Mr GC I love watching your videos and seeing the new products. However the price points are beyond my comprehension. $450 for the new specialized saddle. I'm riding a 2015 specialized roubaix bought used for $700. Looks like I'm a cyclist living in a different paradigm.
Yea I agree this price tag is very high but it is nothing new the power mirror has been out for over a year with this same price tag
Spec is out of control with their prices IMO and the crazy thing is people are willing to pay it. For fun I just weighed my S-Works saddle that’s probably 10 yrs old at 113g 😳.
Yes it is very expensive but the comfort is bar none. The weight will be heavier
I think the problem here might be that you have found a saddle that is working for you, and therefore you think that everyone are like you. In reality, there are people out there that have been searching for a saddle which does not give them discomfort or sores for years without finding any. These may be people who love bike riding, but for which the saddle has always reduced the joy of it. To them, this new technology might be a godsend, and the price fully worth it.
You know what’s worse? The fact that I can’t even just walk into a store that has it in stock locally. I waited half a year for mine, picked it up when my allocated unit came. Went down, picked mine up, hopes to get a second unit for my mtb, and was told that EVERY UNIT sold out the day it came.
My butt loves this saddle. It makes my ride a metaphorical carpet. I love how muted the road feels.
Frankly, every naysayer complaining that this is to expensive is music to my ears; it means less competition for the product.
Hey Mr.g would you do a video on sram front derailleur tuning,adjustments and troubshooting that kind of stuff?
possibly why what happened to yours?
@@GCPerformance18 I kept dropping my chain towards the outside of the bike, twas was definitely just the limit screws,
But I just havent found a video that rly talks more about common problems u can come across with axs,
Althought I thinked I may have unknowingly fixed it now😂
I would love that saddle but that price…ouch, hurts my butt more than my current saddle 😂
hahahhah yea I guess it is a good way to lok at it
But it’s one time payment. Tires are a lot more if you think about it.
Have you tested GC Performance, or tried the Selle 2.0 San Marco short fit in 3d? Compared to the other from fizik or sworks
I have not seen the selle italia only the fizik and the specialized so those are the only a ones I can vouch for and I know they are a nice saddle.
Problem is that these 3D printed saddles are too expensive to try the fit. What if you don't like it. Specialized should offer test 3D saddles. I would buy one in a heart beat if I now for sure the saddle would be perfect for me.
yea they use to do test saddles bac k in the day but I know right now stock is hard so maybe once this shit gets back to normal some how they can work something out..... also you could just order on specialized.com to your houser and if you dont like it send it back within 30 days no questions asked :0
I just placed an order today , my bum can’t wait for it.
Very nice
Not that it matters......How long does it take the 3D printer to print all those struts and nodes?
I have no idea to be hoenst, I would guess quick with the way they pump these out
How does this compare to the fizik Antares versus Evo 00 adaptive?
dont have any experience on the fizik but both similar tech, but the specialzied does feel more comfy and a little more giving to be hoenst
Do you have any tips on how to pick the right one? Shops don’t readily have stock so they’re impossible to try. Size vs romin vs power. How do you pick?
Some shops offer the specialised sit bone measurement service.
I’d recommend doing that. I managed to confirm that the 143 was what I needed based on the scanned measurements. No way I was spending 450 for a mirror without confirming my measurements first haha
@@87togabito exactly. I need some sort of confirmation!
Just had my bike fit (again) yesterday and my bike fitter confirmed that I’m using the right saddle size which is 143. Now I’m debating if I should go with the S-Works Power or S-Works Romin Evo.
@@AREMPEE I have the power expert. I find it pretty comfortable (I’ve done only 60km with it, so they are first impression). I really like the fact that when you sit down, the saddle bends a bit in order to be adjusted to your body. In addition to that there is a little bit of padding that allows for a bit more comfort ( I tried a saddle with zero padding and it was pretty hard). The last thing to mention is the fact that is short, so the pressure on the perineum area is managed perfectly (I don’t feel any numbness when I use it). I think overall is a good saddle with good materials at a good price point
@@giovannipollo I currently have the Power Sport that came with my 2021 Sport Carbon Diverge. I’m looking to upgrade to the S-Works but can’t decide which one to get.
Don’t know if anyone would ever get this seat dirty, but if you just happen to drop it in mud and a hose won’t get it off, you could use a steam machine with a little nozzle.
I would think they would be easy to clean but also how much dirt are u planning on getting in there?
@@GCPerformance18 ah I don’t think anyone actually will get the saddle dirty. It just reminded me of those adidas 4D shoes with the 3D printed midsole. They’re cool but I’ve heard nightmares of trying to clean them
Is anyone using any of this saddles for gravel rides?just wondering i just got a romin evo 3d gonna try it on sat but wondering how this will do on gravel if anyone has any experience with them on gravel thanks in advance
I know people running it for moutnain bike rides and they love it
@@GCPerformance18 yea i read someone else is running but i got the romin evo 3d for my specialized roubaix and was trying to figure out if the power was better for gravel but im guessing thats all preference hopefully i will be able to ride tomorrow if the weather gets better it will be my first time riding on it since i just got it yesterday and i was thinking if its good i can get a power for my cervelo since its a flatter saddle but we will see thanks
I would like to have the saddle but I really need to buy a house someday.
I’m 6’2” 190 lbs and cracked an S-Works power saddle across the relief channel after 3 months use. Got a replacement under warranty and quickly sold it on e bay near what I paid and bought an a Fizik Kurve Aliante.
good shit glad they took care of the old saddle
Bjorn Setka saddle have same 3d foam tech and it weights 135g
I can bet it's 3D-printed by Carbon Inc. too.
I like those saddles a lot
Bjorn also looks way way better
As much as I cringe at the price, they must not be charging enough as the seat hasn't been in stock for quite some time (unless of course, Specialized just has some serious supply chain issues.)
yea I think more supply chain issues, but like u said as soon as we get the in people buy them right away
Too bad you can’t try out a demo for a week before dropping this amount of money. I think it’s easier to find the right bike than the best saddle for you. I eventually took off my low grade Specialized saddle and found the Selle SMP Well. Works for me, but everyone is different. If it were really super comfortable, I’d pay for it.
it would be amazing they use to do something like that for dealers back in the day buthtey stopped offering demos for consumers
I want one, but it's kind of stupid because I bet you anything it's cheaper to make this with a 3D printer than a normal saddle...and they're charging more for it...
Lmao i was thinking the same thing
I have slight cracks on the carbon rail of my SWORKS Power saddle. Is there any way that the rails can be replaced instead of having to spend 300$ on a new saddle again?
I don't think so, what caused the cracks? A crash?
@@yonglingng5640 if you're a heavy rider, it's suggested you go with ti or alloy rails over carbon
No guys I'm only 65kg. Yes someone went down in front of me and me and bike front flipped over them. Bike landed upsidedown on saddle and hoods and I am almost positive that's how the cracks happened. Irreparable?
I would recommend going to a store and see what they say. If it is a crash they sometimes have crash replacement programs setup to help soften the blow
@@ayowser01 I'm not heavy myself (60+ kg), but the most I'd go for is titanium, saves me from wondering "Can my seatpost take this?".
This saddle does not work for me. It was initially comfortable, but now my soft spots are going numb and I’m always adjusting my position. Prior to this upgrade, I was using the S-Work Romin evo with no issues. I’m hoping a bike fit will address my concerns.
get a fit for it, it might be jsut some adjusting at first but i mean saddles are iffy and everyone is different
What saddle did you end up using?
@@CZcamsAnthony I went back to the SWorks Romin Evo
@@RitzChea great to hear! I have the power with mirror but still uncomfortable. I ordered romin evo mirror after this video. If that doesn’t work I’ll def try the romin evo without mirror. Thank you!
@@CZcamsAnthony with which saddle do you ride now?
Does it have a life time? I heard that it has and is as short as 2 years. Can you confirm that?
yes I believe the saddles have lifeitme for them
What’s the torque to clamp this saddle?
it depends on the deatpost clamp for the bike, it will always say it on the seatpost
I struggle with seats. I hated the oem seat and believe it or not, I went with the snub nosed mimic womens seat.
Really hoping to see specialized have this tech trickle down. I don’t need everything to be carbon. $450 is stiff! I deal with numbness etc and I’m not the lightest rider at 225 at 6ft 2.
We are the same height and weight. I know your struggles. So far my favorite saddle is the Fizik Kurve. They don't make it anymore though. $450 for this saddle is kind of insane.
Try the power
Hi do you sale the mirror saddle specialized I interested on 143
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Thanks!!!!
Confiest saddle i ever used
hell yea my friend
For a “so called” expensive saddle it sure is sold out everywhere
Hi GC Performance. Newbie here.
So you are Power Mirror over Romin Mirror? Thanks
im on power mirror but it is preference
@@GCPerformance18 thanks for the input :)
Great video that's just too much money.
Thank yoi
GC, would you recommend this saddle over the S-Works Power Mirror?
It’s a lot of preference. I still prefer the power mirror
@@GCPerformance18 Had my bike fit yesterday and my bike fitter confirmed that my size is 143. I will be getting the power mirror🤙🏼
Fit is more import then a expansive sadle
of course but you want to make sure the saddle you are riding works for you
Bet that makes for one happy a5s for that money! 😂😂😂😂😂
hahahha it si snice
It doesn't look like you can get this saddle in a white color.
You can not. Right now
They are already out of stock on their site.
I have them in stock
@@GCPerformance18 Where are you actually located?
Fizik has a new 3d printed saddle that looks like the specialized saddles..... Its more comfy and has hollow steel rail as an option.
I felt it at Sea Otter last week
It should be cheaper than a padded saddle because there is less manual labor to manufacture it. 3D printing is don't by a machine not a human. Tell Specialized that would you? $450 and no guaranty it is the right saddle for my arse. I'll tell you what, let me ride it on one of my long day long rides, if it is more comfortable I'll buy it.
I would think that too that it is much less to make but I don’t know. Maybe the material is more money
3D printing is all about cost reduction. Less waste and less manufacturing cost. So to see a company charge more for it makes me angry. I like specialized, but they really screwed their customers on this one. Thanks for the excellent review though. Appreciate it.
Yea that’s what I thought too. I didn’t realize why it’s so much. But it fella amazing!!!
@@GCPerformance18 yep, 3d printing should not cost more. Specialized are choosing to charge whatever they want and morons are buying it. Veblen Goods
But the investment for the tech isn’t cheap.
Fine dining is the same isn’t it
$350 for the Box 📦 and remaining for the Saddle 🤣🤣🤣
lmao
$450 is outrageous. These greedy corporations sure know how to be scumbags
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$450 for a saddle no way.
jose
Power saddle rubbed my inner thighs; snub-nosed design also wasn't great for me. Romin Mirror works is exactly what I was after.
Very nice!!!
txmhbt
#von.ong
Is the color called Absolute Black? More overpriced wankery.....
lmao no but 3d printed saddles have been this price for a long time
@@GCPerformance18 Which is why there should be more long term reviews of how the saddle holds up, does it wear out the bibs, comfort level, etc. This would help people make the decision to spend the extra cash. If this were the miracle saddle that would keep me comfortable for a 4 hour ride I would gladly spend the money because I haven't found a saddle like that in more than 35 years. I think it would shock you to know how many saddles I've purchased in all those years.
Another overpriced product from Specialized
yea but this prioce is no suprise they have had this model out before for the same price
I agree I have 2 of them one for each bike there Awesome power mirror great saddle a bang for the buck but worth every penny.🤌
yea I agree too they make riding more enjoyable for suyre I wish they would make a cheaper model though too