I tend to go Child Labor (Safe) first, then rush toward Extended Shift. The additional 15 kids working is worth more to me than a 24 hour shift overnight on the first day. THAT SAID, I can see arguments both ways, and that they're both viable is a sign of a well balanced game :) I want to thank you for such a great guide. I'm still trying to optimize my build and "housing" sections in particular.
@@fiasco_games4131 So glad this helped you out! There are plenty of ways to get through the scenario (which is why this game is so much fun!). This happened to be the one that did the best for me after so many attempts!
24 hour. Get extended shifts after, then go for fight pits. Discontent goes up, discontent goes down. I dislike child labour, while it gives you a big boost early on, the bonuses from shelters are much better later on.
Btw there's another good start that I tried which let me eventually win the scenario. First thing is assign to Wood and Steel only. No need for coal yet. Build a Workshop ASAP within the first day and have 5 engineers set aside to start researching. I recommend you start with researching heaters then sawmills and steelmills and then the beacon. Have the workshop do an emergency shift and build 8 tents before 2 am or else people will die from the cold. If everyone is in the central ring and in tents before 2 am then you won't have any problems and don't even need to turn the generator on until the 4th day. Once you exhaust one or two of the wood/steel wreckages I recommend you start stockpiling coal and invest in some resource depots at the far edges of your crator. You're safe postponing turning the generator on until the end of the 3rd day as long as everyone has homes by the end of day 1.
Indeed! This is another great opening for this scenario. Delaying scouts and waiting for the temp drop while doing a mini tech rush works well on this difficulty! Thanks for the detailed setup!
I love this game. everyone has perfect lives. never cold, never hungry, a public house, alcohol, children get to be apprentices, the sick get care homes, the deceased get a nice ceremony, hours never increase, policies are never enacted by force... the entire city wants to leave
Thank you so much! There are channels with THOUSANDS of hours of time on this game. I'm just trying to distill what I can from my own experience to help gamers who want to enjoy the ride without punishing themselves. 😜
Dang really? I think watching a good early game video helped me out my first time, I played on normal and beat the main take first try in one 8 hour session. I considered I probably could’ve beaten the game on Hard, but it was definitely fun
Im a little late to the party but like your video a lot. Subbed and you deserve more subs! Thanks for the series ill be watching them as needed when i fail. First run i went in blind and 21 people died the first night because i went for wood to build instead of coal. They were fine during the day so i didnt think they would die at night. Lol I have a lot to learn haha
@@PhatBeetzGaming You helped me out massively. i was able to stream it yesterday for a few hours, no issues, and the knowledge of how to get started was immeasurable :) THANKS AGAIN MATE :)
@@N7_GAMES This is a giid one to stream! The urgency isn't so high that you'll crash and burn balancing playing the game and vibing with your viewers! I hope it was a great stream! Thanks for watching! 😀
Any reason you didn't go for gathering posts? limited my road building to reaching both posts that covered three resource piles (wood, wood, steel), and managed to squeeze out a single workshop with them by noon. Roughly along the line where you placed your first one, engineers on steel till I got enough to build the workshop, then pulled them off and threw them at construction of the shop and wood. Had to pull eight guys off wood at noon to get just under 60 coal for the night from the pile that isn't part of a pair but was able to build 8 tents, two more workshops, and the street connections to power them. 24hr shifted the first workshop, unless I did both at the same time, I couldn't keep the coal pile going as well. That killed someone when I tried so I loaded the save (first time going through the game) and held myself to just the workshop. I feel I'm in a pretty good position from there to go extended shift on the all my worksites (two supporting workshops, two gathering centers, a coal and steel pile) till I have enough to build the beacon in the morning, and start pulling workers off the steel to build it and send out a scout team. With a bit of luck I think I can have all but four coal piles picked up by the end of day three with this set up. Tech wise after faster gathering and beacon, started on sawmills and steelworks to provide resource streams once the scrap is collected.
Yep. Sounds familiar! The reason I didn't do gathering posts was because I set up today so that I could empty out all the resource piles available for them by tomorrow morning. That, and I rush for a second scout so that I can get more resources out there while I set up the rest of the collection. You've probably already seen what I did the next few days. Thanks for sharing your approach in detail! There are so many other ways to open in this game, and I hope you're enjoying it!
I find that you only need around 30 units of coal to make it through the first night. One needs to delay turning on the generator until 0200. When I start thr game and taking advantage on pause I initially assign 15 x 2 workers on wood collection, then an initial 10 wotkers on steal collection. I then build 2 workshops, and assign another 5 workers to steal collection and then 5 workers and 5 engineers and 5 wokers on coal collection. I ensure no more than 15 steel and 30 units of coal are collected. Once this is reached I assign them to wood collection , in between all of this ny work shops have been built and inventing faster gathering. I remove an engineer and assign them to wood gathering so there is an extra 13 people working on the other piles of wood. Once the faster gathering is developed I assign 4 engineers from the workshop to wood dollection , and start to invent the next stage of technology. When 1800 comes I am left with enough resources to build. 3 gathering posts, a medical centre the roads to connect them to the generator and most of the time a cookhouse. I have found there is no need whateofer to use the emergency shift and only select these to get to the extended shift set everyone on to 14 hour shifts For day 2 Once your gathering posts , cook house, medical center is developed assign all the workers, the spare workers set to wood collection , and when stage one of technology is completed develope a wood mine. this at the end of day 2 should.leave you with enough resources to build 8 tents the other 2 resource posts and to develop a becon
after you get research get research the coal and assign some workers to them and you have enough coal to sustain you unless you have made other places that use coal you might have to make more of them
This is very detailed, thx. Does it work on hard? I finished my first run on normal and I am trying a hard one. I noticed that discontentment is way more annoying, last run I didnt even touched arenas, but on hard i just had to. I see you placed the beacon and depots on a future heat zone, I wonder if you change it later. I'm also going for a no gen range achievment, so i'm experimenting with steam hubs districs, I placed them so that their heat zone reach just at the end of generator heat, but this leaved me two unused squares between the gen and the districts, so i guess it's not optimal but it's working until now, day 24.
From personal experience, each difficulty needs increasing amounts of micro, and while the strategies are similar, there are a lot more critical moments you can't glaze over. I would say strategies are backwards compatible for difficulty! 😜 I made it through without having to change too much on placement, but there's plenty of ways to do it! The no gen range achievement requires lots of coal so you probably want to rescue as many as fast as possible so the Beacon rush is essential. Lots of steam hubs will be needed to cover the map. I hope you got through the scenario! Sounds like you were doing well! Thanks for your comment!
Maybe i'm just too slow but you are going too fast, I need to constantly rewind. For example at 4:34 you mention the workshop but then don't even set it, then you immediately switch to the tent, cookhouse and then workshop again. Then you inexplicably cancel the cookhouse, and instantly slap 2 workshops on there (I had to rewind several times and watch on 0.5 speed to keep track of it).
No you're not too slow. You're not the first to provide piece of feedback to me since I made this upload! Making strategy guides is a very different beast from making any other content on YT, and I'll admit that I'm still learning how to do it so that people can follow without getting bored or frustrated. Hopefully you're getting what you need out of this series. If not, there are lots of others out there who do this much better so I'd encourage you to check them out as well! This is just the way that I managed to do it at this difficulty setting. Thanks again for your feedback, and I hope you enjoy playing as much as I have!
@@PhatBeetzGaming my bad! i wasnt placing the roads first so i guess that messed with the spacing? i now was able to fit 8 tents and 2 medical centres! thanks so much for these vids!
Yep. 50 workers, 15 engineers, and 15 kids so 80 people to start with. If you go with the child labor law off the bat, you'll get the 15 extra gatherers as well!
Actually useless. Doesn't even answer the main question that I have about the map. What is the win condition? is it a 100 day map? 20 day map? how long do you have to be bored on it?
What's the first law you like to enact in this scenario?
I tend to go Child Labor (Safe) first, then rush toward Extended Shift. The additional 15 kids working is worth more to me than a 24 hour shift overnight on the first day. THAT SAID, I can see arguments both ways, and that they're both viable is a sign of a well balanced game :)
I want to thank you for such a great guide. I'm still trying to optimize my build and "housing" sections in particular.
@@fiasco_games4131 So glad this helped you out! There are plenty of ways to get through the scenario (which is why this game is so much fun!). This happened to be the one that did the best for me after so many attempts!
24 hour. Get extended shifts after, then go for fight pits. Discontent goes up, discontent goes down. I dislike child labour, while it gives you a big boost early on, the bonuses from shelters are much better later on.
Sounds like you got a great build order! Yeah, the shelter/medical route is the one I like to use as well.
EMERGENCY SHIFT
This is by far the cleanest, most informative guide. No rambling about how good you are, no personal anecdotes, just straight to the point. Thank you.
Appreciate the feedback! I hope that it helps you in your gameplay. 😀
Btw there's another good start that I tried which let me eventually win the scenario. First thing is assign to Wood and Steel only. No need for coal yet. Build a Workshop ASAP within the first day and have 5 engineers set aside to start researching. I recommend you start with researching heaters then sawmills and steelmills and then the beacon. Have the workshop do an emergency shift and build 8 tents before 2 am or else people will die from the cold. If everyone is in the central ring and in tents before 2 am then you won't have any problems and don't even need to turn the generator on until the 4th day. Once you exhaust one or two of the wood/steel wreckages I recommend you start stockpiling coal and invest in some resource depots at the far edges of your crator. You're safe postponing turning the generator on until the end of the 3rd day as long as everyone has homes by the end of day 1.
Indeed! This is another great opening for this scenario.
Delaying scouts and waiting for the temp drop while doing a mini tech rush works well on this difficulty!
Thanks for the detailed setup!
I love this game.
everyone has perfect lives. never cold, never hungry, a public house, alcohol, children get to be apprentices, the sick get care homes, the deceased get a nice ceremony, hours never increase, policies are never enacted by force...
the entire city wants to leave
🤣🤣
An ice paradise!
Good video, I played frostpunk of 120 hours and I can confirm that everything you've said is true. Good and helpful video.
Thank you so much! There are channels with THOUSANDS of hours of time on this game. I'm just trying to distill what I can from my own experience to help gamers who want to enjoy the ride without punishing themselves. 😜
after a bunch of tries..finally beat the main game today
Congrats! Bunch of tries sounds about right. This isn't exactly an easy game to play even at the normal setting!
Dang really? I think watching a good early game video helped me out my first time, I played on normal and beat the main take first try in one 8 hour session. I considered I probably could’ve beaten the game on Hard, but it was definitely fun
Im a little late to the party but like your video a lot. Subbed and you deserve more subs!
Thanks for the series ill be watching them as needed when i fail. First run i went in blind and 21 people died the first night because i went for wood to build instead of coal. They were fine during the day so i didnt think they would die at night. Lol
I have a lot to learn haha
Really well done - very informative and helpful
Thanks for the feedback! I'm looking forward to the second one!
This game is kicking my fucking ass.
It's a really challenging game!
it is supposed to be difficult. if you are having an easy time, its because your either using cheeze strats or your playing on easy.
A well earned and greatly deserved sub! Thank you
Glad you enjoyed it! Looking forward to continue improving to keep it!
Exactly what I was looking for
Glad this helped! I hope you're enjoying this game!
GREAT VIDEO MATE :)
Thanks!
@@PhatBeetzGaming You helped me out massively. i was able to stream it yesterday for a few hours, no issues, and the knowledge of how to get started was immeasurable :) THANKS AGAIN MATE :)
@@N7_GAMES This is a giid one to stream! The urgency isn't so high that you'll crash and burn balancing playing the game and vibing with your viewers!
I hope it was a great stream! Thanks for watching! 😀
Any reason you didn't go for gathering posts? limited my road building to reaching both posts that covered three resource piles (wood, wood, steel), and managed to squeeze out a single workshop with them by noon. Roughly along the line where you placed your first one, engineers on steel till I got enough to build the workshop, then pulled them off and threw them at construction of the shop and wood. Had to pull eight guys off wood at noon to get just under 60 coal for the night from the pile that isn't part of a pair but was able to build 8 tents, two more workshops, and the street connections to power them.
24hr shifted the first workshop, unless I did both at the same time, I couldn't keep the coal pile going as well. That killed someone when I tried so I loaded the save (first time going through the game) and held myself to just the workshop. I feel I'm in a pretty good position from there to go extended shift on the all my worksites (two supporting workshops, two gathering centers, a coal and steel pile) till I have enough to build the beacon in the morning, and start pulling workers off the steel to build it and send out a scout team.
With a bit of luck I think I can have all but four coal piles picked up by the end of day three with this set up. Tech wise after faster gathering and beacon, started on sawmills and steelworks to provide resource streams once the scrap is collected.
Yep. Sounds familiar! The reason I didn't do gathering posts was because I set up today so that I could empty out all the resource piles available for them by tomorrow morning. That, and I rush for a second scout so that I can get more resources out there while I set up the rest of the collection.
You've probably already seen what I did the next few days. Thanks for sharing your approach in detail! There are so many other ways to open in this game, and I hope you're enjoying it!
I find that you only need around 30 units of coal to make it through the first night. One needs to delay turning on the generator until 0200.
When I start thr game and taking advantage on pause I initially assign 15 x 2 workers on wood collection, then an initial 10 wotkers on steal collection.
I then build 2 workshops, and assign another 5 workers to steal collection and then 5 workers and 5 engineers and 5 wokers on coal collection.
I ensure no more than 15 steel and 30 units of coal are collected.
Once this is reached I assign them to wood collection , in between all of this ny work shops have been built and inventing faster gathering. I remove an engineer and assign them to wood gathering so there is an extra 13 people working on the other piles of wood. Once the faster gathering is developed I assign 4 engineers from the workshop to wood dollection , and start to invent the next stage of technology.
When 1800 comes I am left with enough resources to build.
3 gathering posts, a medical centre the roads to connect them to the generator and most of the time a cookhouse.
I have found there is no need whateofer to use the emergency shift and only select these to get to the extended shift
set everyone on to 14 hour shifts
For day 2 Once your gathering posts , cook house, medical center is developed assign all the workers, the spare workers set to wood collection , and when stage one of technology is completed develope a wood mine.
this at the end of day 2 should.leave you with enough resources to build 8 tents the other 2 resource posts and to develop a becon
Very detailed outline of your opening moves! I'll have to try it out myself. Thanks for sharing!
@@PhatBeetzGaming hope it was clear for you.
I only have an xbox and I think i can only share the video which I made on there.
This game is so hard bro. Lol. This will definitely be helpful to me. I tried so many times and I always get banished. Let me try it your way now.
Think I'm ready to tackle this game!
I hope this helps! It takes a few tries to get the hang of it. Enjoy!
@@PhatBeetzGaming It dosn't help that there is no tutorial and the in-game tips aren't very helpful lol.
@@hoonaignachowaneha Yeah, it's enough to get your feet wet, so to speak. I crashed and burned the first few times I played!
Damn i just got this game and i failed three times in five hours. I think I'm spending too much time in fast forward mode.
Yeah that's the thing. You can get away with that on easy, but if you ignore anything for too long it'll snowball!
I'll decouple or change the music from the effects...a little jarring for that to be there when I fast forward.
this game man this game is so fucking hard
I didn't even make it to day 4 on extreme difficulty when I attempted it! Priorities and stakes are crazy at that difficulty!
"assign workers to gather resources."
noooo... i thought we were supposed to stare at the snow.
after you get research get research the coal and assign some workers to them and you have enough coal to sustain you unless you have made other places that use coal you might have to make more of them
It's a tough game! Jumping on coal production from the start is a solid way to stay warm through the first cold snap.
This is very detailed, thx. Does it work on hard? I finished my first run on normal and I am trying a hard one. I noticed that discontentment is way more annoying, last run I didnt even touched arenas, but on hard i just had to. I see you placed the beacon and depots on a future heat zone, I wonder if you change it later. I'm also going for a no gen range achievment, so i'm experimenting with steam hubs districs, I placed them so that their heat zone reach just at the end of generator heat, but this leaved me two unused squares between the gen and the districts, so i guess it's not optimal but it's working until now, day 24.
From personal experience, each difficulty needs increasing amounts of micro, and while the strategies are similar, there are a lot more critical moments you can't glaze over.
I would say strategies are backwards compatible for difficulty! 😜
I made it through without having to change too much on placement, but there's plenty of ways to do it!
The no gen range achievement requires lots of coal so you probably want to rescue as many as fast as possible so the Beacon rush is essential. Lots of steam hubs will be needed to cover the map.
I hope you got through the scenario! Sounds like you were doing well! Thanks for your comment!
Maybe i'm just too slow but you are going too fast, I need to constantly rewind. For example at 4:34 you mention the workshop but then don't even set it, then you immediately switch to the tent, cookhouse and then workshop again. Then you inexplicably cancel the cookhouse, and instantly slap 2 workshops on there (I had to rewind several times and watch on 0.5 speed to keep track of it).
No you're not too slow. You're not the first to provide piece of feedback to me since I made this upload!
Making strategy guides is a very different beast from making any other content on YT, and I'll admit that I'm still learning how to do it so that people can follow without getting bored or frustrated.
Hopefully you're getting what you need out of this series. If not, there are lots of others out there who do this much better so I'd encourage you to check them out as well!
This is just the way that I managed to do it at this difficulty setting.
Thanks again for your feedback, and I hope you enjoy playing as much as I have!
New subscriber here.
Thanks for the sub! I hope my content helps you enjoy this game!
how are u fitting 8 tents and 2 medical posts?? i only have enough room for 1
I've always been able to fit ten buildings in the past...if it's changed recently, I'll definitely make an update.
@@PhatBeetzGaming my bad! i wasnt placing the roads first so i guess that messed with the spacing? i now was able to fit 8 tents and 2 medical centres! thanks so much for these vids!
That's great! I hope you enjoy the scenario and make it through the storm!
If only there was a short write-up to accompany this..
What kind of write up are you looking for? Something more in the description?
The game starts with 50 workers and 15 engineers. So I can't even start like you did
Yep. 50 workers, 15 engineers, and 15 kids so 80 people to start with. If you go with the child labor law off the bat, you'll get the 15 extra gatherers as well!
@@PhatBeetzGaming Thanks
Instructions unclear gave everyone emergency shifts with child labour i died to the first storm
That happened to me lots of times before I survived! 😜
this game is not intuitive at all, and whatever "tutorial" system they placed doesn't help at all. It gets an F
Yeah, they kinda threw you in the deep end. I failed a whole lot before I started managing to make progress...
Actually useless. Doesn't even answer the main question that I have about the map. What is the win condition? is it a 100 day map? 20 day map? how long do you have to be bored on it?