Clay Bar Detailing How To Clay Your Car Properly
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A well known tip - soften the clay bar in warm water before the claying stage. Just makes the clay easier to shape.
I watch a lot of detailing videos and I have to say that I really enjoy the way you present your material. It's not like some people that sound like they're reading from a book--you explain yourself very well from a normal-guy perspective and it's different and refreshing. Thanks Jon and keep up the great work.
I agree. So many videos on CZcams these days are so highly edited/crisp that it feels more like marketing than genuine content.
I love this channel for not only the content, but it feels like 'real advice', and not like I'm being sold something
Iv’e . said before Jon reminds me of my college chemistry professor and his narration is story time lessons. Ima huge fan an not to mention Jon is humorous 👏🏾👏🏾
He's is good right!
Sometimes I wish I just did not knew all this. Just run the car through the carwash and drive straight out.
Bro I feel this...
I love cleaning my car but detailing is a pain in the ass. I do prefer washing at home though. Cheaper and I feel I can do more.
So many good things come from Great Britain-you’re one of them. You are just simply brilliant, mate. The main thing is I trust you because your commitment to your craft is undeniable.
Thx u sir for kind words
I touched up a few stone chips on my bonnet a week ago and they felt high a week later so used the soft BH clay bar and was nicely surprised when it levelled them out 👍
Good tip on using the mitt with Korrosol, I was using way too much every time 👍👍
Did my Mk8 Golf Rline this am. I’d no idea about using it until I saw you use it. It blew my mind. Your videos have really helped me. 👍🏻
Love the warm up Jon 🤣🤣🔥🔥🔥
A thumbs up for the FDC Haka alone. It took me a rewatch to get it, but a genuine laugh brightened my day. Thanks, John for the excellent content.
Now that ya mention, in the U.S. dealers are NOTORIOUS for as you say, "Sealing OVER Bloody Crap"! Best detailing channel I've seen ever! Thanks M8 & of course, have a lovely day!
Thanks Jon very helpful video. Going to get my car done this week hopefully. Love a clean car..
Hi Jon, I clay barred/polished my friends' car last week as he works near a farm (won't say what the fallout was) but when he returned this week all he could say was sorry about the state of the car. After a snow foam etc it looked newish I reckon after last week's treatment this helped to clean it.
Love your passion, helping my confidence to detail my car … cheers for sharing your knowledge for free..
I’ve be using Bilt Hamber clay bar for a few years now, is must be 1 of the best.
I really appreciate the knowledge you shared with us!
That BH mild clay is my go to these days after using a few other brands over the years. Does a great job without marring the paintwork
Good video Jon! Thanks.
I do things a little differently personally, but its horses for courses i guess.
I put my clay in a jug of hot water to soften it first. Much much more malleable then and much less likely to marr the paint I've found.
I also don't use clay lube either. I use Garage Therapy Zero decon as a contact wash but also as a pre-wash snow foam. I'll then use what's left over in my cannon and bucket as my clay lube as I work my way around the car.
I just find it has brilliant lubricity and the added surfactants just seem to make the claying process even more effective for me. Plus the car has then had, effectively, three hits with the zero decon.
There's always a lot less contamination left meaning I don't need as much clay. Lol.
Helpful video and commentary, Jon. Thanks for sharing.
Hi ya John good video as usual I know what u mean about the tar a fallout still on the paintwork underneath a sealant I just bought a 5 series the dealer did exactly the same to me. A useful TIP with the built hamber clay is to put the clay into some hot water before you use it, it makes it much easier to fold and work with 👍
Great video was looking for this kind of video on the steps and application of decontamination very clear 👍
Man Iv missed you !!!! 💪🏻💪🏻 great video !
I switched from claybars to nanoskin decontaminations sponges 7 years ago and never looked back. The way I do it now is to clay and wash at the same time. So I start with the pre-wash with a degreaser in the snow foam cannon, then pressure wash, do the fall out remover, pressure wash, wash with ONR and clay with the sponge while the panel is still wet, then dry the panel. Doing it this way adds maybe 15 minutes to the washing step, it's really, really fast. I normally use the fine sponge unless I notice heavy contamination. Sponges won't remove as much as claybars, but they don't scratch as much either and they save you a ton of time.
Great video. I only use bilt hammer clay but use water as the lube. Would you recommend a different lubricant instead??
Thanks John I recently brought bilit hamber clay bar after seeing the reviews I'm hoping to get the car ready before a car show on the 19th of June I'm going to be using a da as I don't think the car has ever been polished
Great detailed vid! I got this clay bar as a present but not used it yet. A couple of years ago.. I’d better get on and use it as didn’t realise it had a shelf life! Never used a clay bar before so your advice really helps. I’ve got a 30yr old and 21yr old car to do and I don’t think they’ve ever seen a clay bar!
Also I read somewhere that immediately after claying you should wax it to protect the paint? Thanks!
I use BH clay. To keep it malleable I break off a few usable size pieces & keep them in a bucket of hot water.
Hi Jon. I agree, Bilt Hamber make far superior clay compared to other brands. They really think through the packaging too. Love how they use a wax paper and talc to keep the clay from sticking to the case. *Quick question: What are the dilution ratios for the ONR for claying?*
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Looks like your weight loss is going well. Keep up the good work Jon.
thanks John. such an important subject easily ignored or misapplied....
Hi mate great video, when you spray karrosol and wipe it with a mitt does the mitt have to be soapy? or can i use dry mitt. Thank you
ONR dilutions to make John's life easier:
1:256 rinseless wash
1:64 clay lube
1:16 quick detailer
I just discovered the wonderful world of ONR. Are there other uses and what dilutions would those be?
@@chrismorgan3302 you may use onr to clean interiors too at any of those dilutions. Good also to prime or clean pads between passes when polishing
What is ONR?
@@ketillundsrensen6167 Optimum No Rinse
Hi Jon, I used the Bilt Hamber mild clay bar for the first time a few weeks ago following recommendations from one of your earlier videos. What I wasn’t prepared for however was the amount of marring and apparent damage it inflicted on the soft Black Toyota paint despite following every step religiously. It was always my intention to machine polish afterwards but the sense of dread after claying as a novice caused a squeaky bum moment.
Thats sucks. But like you say Toyota might have a soft paint. My Mercedes didn't show eny noticeable marring.
But a good polish and a good vax and you will be very happy.
Claying is not for washing but for preparing for polish
Hi John just a quick one what’s best a rotary motion polisher or a da polisher for swirls just brought a m135i f20 and it’s got a lot of swirls
It is a satisfying feeling when i see the same car i care for being under the tests 😄
Video starts at 0:18 lol bloody nice editing Jon!
Hi John what about the windscreen? I too bought a car from the main stealers they put on the autoglym lifeshine with the carbon coat on the first wash I did there was areas that weren’t even beading + you can feel the roughness on the bonnet, I’m getting into the gyeon way of cleaning any other good stuff to use,
Cheers keep up the informative videos👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
I always use BH. I put it in jug hot water and use rolling pin to get it thin enough.
OK. Need to comment. I have used clay bar a few times before but never saw good results. After your video i tried your technique. I now see a big difference. Thank you and keep up the great work.
thats great news, this is good clay. the only down side is the stiffness in winter.
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I live in Cocoa Beach Florida. What is winter?
What are peoples thoughts around how often you should clay? Is it just a case of when it needs it or should you limit it to ‘protect’ the paint?
It may be little, it may be red, it’s not located in one of three specific areas of Yorkshire, it’s not the subject of a Brothers Grimm book and so IT’S NOT A HOOD!
This video inspired me. I cleaned both cars and used Korosol and Clay Bar'ed for the first time, before polishing and waxing properly. It took nearly two days and I was so happy. I used so many of your videos for reference. But a week later and both cars have watermarks, tree leaves and sap, and bird poo. What do you recommend for maintaining clean cars because I don't want to have to deep clean every week, but won't a snow foam remove the polish and wax that I added last weekend? Once you've got a clean car, what do you recommend to maintain it? Thanks in advance. :D
love posts like this Owen. The bad news is no matter what you do the cars get dirty and having fresh protection can mean dried water spots are more noticable.
So have some Koch Chemie FSE to remove water spots (make sure car is clean first)
dont worry about stripping the wax, LSP is cheap and easy to apply. trust your LSP and reapply when its totally dead in 3-6 months. you can maintain it with detail sprays or nice easy spray and rinse.. but trust the LSP mate.
Cheers, love your videos. Cracking up at the Google rant 🤣🤣🤣
Opinions on claying glass aswell as paint?
jon just bought some bilt hamber auto soft clay after watching one of your videos going to give it a try on my 3 year old suzuki vitara,would
like to ask you 2 questions if you don,t mind 1 my suzuki has a metalic paint will it be ok to use it. 2 if during the process the clay gets grubby
can i wash it off carry on when finished can i rinse the clay make sure it,s clean and be able to use the same peice a second time later.
all this is a bit new to a 79 year old pensioner, got to admit i am old school. many thanks jon
Just watched this very good video thanks :)
I know this has nothing to do with clay bar. Just wondering what is really good at preventing yellow headlamp haze. Buying a new car and want to keep the lacquer on the lamps from turning yellow. Any tips?
Great video as always, picked up a V8 Mustang the other day and apparently the manager had spent an afternoon polishing it and another one…I could see it a mile away thanks to the white residue in every panel gap and join and around the door handles etc…thanks for going the extra mile…not lmao 🤣
Are synthetic clays any good?
Jon , love the channel mate. One question, machine polishing is the only step I have yet to attempt but I have no garage , just the driveway. Is it possible to achieve a good standard outdoors or is it just too risky with outdoor variables (airborne contaminants , weather etc)
hey there just pick a good day mate with no wind and not too sunny but dry and you will be fine.
How can you tell when the black one is dirty tho ?
Best intro ever 🤣🤣
Funnily enough, I have been claying my car today, also with BH clay lol
Never heard of the Korrosol before! Sounds like if it’s turning rusty contaminants purple then it must be similar to Kurust that’s a rust converter… and if it Shri is it that she’s great sense as the clay bar will lift it off easier!
At the back of my car is an excessive amount of rust particles on the paintwork from the exhaust. I’d better get some of this stuff pronto! Ps in the video where you use the sponge/ microfibre applicator and take it out of the bucket; is the suds on the car from the Korrosol or is it car shampoo from the bucket you’re working it in with to wash the stuff off? Thanks again!
Clay bar prep is the best thing since sliced bread
Jon as usual excellent informative video, can i ask though? you advised it might help holding the bar with gloves on but in the video you were bare handed, is that your preference? I can't recall a quick mention about dropping the bar and to bin it straight away, hence it's usually a good idea to split the bar before use into manageable sizes.
hey ian sorry I missed this. Im not too fussed but perhaps with the gloves on the clay is easier to hold but yer Im not overly fussed on that. If you drop it I would bin it.
@@ForensicDetailing Jon,
Don't worry about not seeing my comments, with everything you're doing some things will fall by the wayside. Once again keep up the great videos.
I'm not into car detailing, but your videos are good, like the products reviews and how to,
which have helped me with the car cleaning
something you don't see much of is the cleaning and re dying of softop on cars
anyway keep up the good work
Think I'm a bit like you. I do look after my car and use some of the tips to avoid inflicting damage. I started using a wash mitt after watching detailing videos for example. Must admit heavy decontaminating procedures scare me a bit!
I have done clay bar, not to hard to do
then I used the new turtle wax paste its good stuff
Another helpful video, as always! The BH clay box says to wash / rinse after claying, which adds more work. Helpful to know I could just microfibre / towel afterwards as you did. It also says just use water as lube which worked fine for me (I used the fine spray from the hose).
How do I determine which type of grade of clay that I may need to do my car? The car can look very clean for a 14 year old car after a wash and is gun metal grey. I'm new to clay barring and can't work out if a heavy clay bar would be too aggressive or if I would be wasting my time using a fine bar? Any advice would be hugely appreciated. Thanks.
Go white
Would you still recommend this process if you hand polish - will hand polishing remove any marks made by claying?
can mask and remove most fine clay marring but its damn hard work and somethings you can get heavy marring.
Thanks!
Like the approach!!
How do you deal with the same contaminate, say on the rear window?
You can use both fall out removers (chem decon) and claybars (mech decon) on windows.
@@jaaphoogendijk671 thanks!!
The Haka 🤣
Where is the mitt from you used ?
My favorite clay is AM details clay from Alan. You can use just water as a lubricant and works well.
Can just use water with the BH clay bar too 👌🏼
@@ptheledge5390 I Just use AM details clay cause white details uses it in his videos and introduced me to it .
Bilt Hamber clay is very good value for money, as are all of their products to be honest.
i have found my self applying fallout remover onto the car then applying a thick snow foam over the top and using a finishing sponge to agitate the surface rather than a wash mitt.
My BH black clay has been unused for 5 years. I'm going to try it out.... I'll let you know if it's gone off or perfect still.
Should be fine as long as its been unopened and the paper wrapping is in place.
Pop the bit your using in a bit of warm water. Mix it up and see how it goes.
Bit off topic, but what wash mitt were you using with the fall out remover, as it looked really good and perfect hand size?
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Hi mate
I brought a 4 year old car with approx 20k miles
The paint feels rough to the touch so I want to clay it
I didn't know which clay to get so I bought built hamper medium.
But after watching this video I'm thinking should have got soft.
Is there a big difference? Will the marring be visible?
Also on the instructions it says you can just use water. Is that sufficient in your opinion or will I have to buy ONR?
Marring will be vidable under heavy duty lighting after car is dry. Get a little da polisher to whizz over it with finish polish
I wonder, would this likely remove a sandy feeling dust? Seems embedded in the base/clear paint on me '69 Plymouth? Mostly on the roof. Ive used the Turtle wax, it will shine it up, but? I still have the "Sandy" feel. Thanks M8 and great video!
Cheers!
Hi Jon, just getting in to the whole detailing scene and building my repertoire of products and things, a quick question, how often would you clay bar a car? And also decon? Every wash or once a month? Loving the videos and content learning a lot thanks! 👍😁
Nowhere near that frequently. It depends on the amount of contamination but probably once a year followed by a very light finishing polish on a DA to take out any scratches you just put in and keep the paintwork fresh. You could use a chemical fallout remover like Korrosol every few months to help keep the deposits to a minimum in a contactless fashion.
@@serenahansen2394 thanks very much for the reply much appreciated 👍
Using first tar and glue remover might expose rust deposits under the tar... Also tar might contain small particles of asphalt, prone to deep scratching your paint... Personal experience, I prefer to do tar remover prior to cleaning my car, wash my car, dry it, iron remover, rinse it and claying it. So you actually just dry your car twice. Also using an acid shampoo prevent water spotting during claying
Do you have to polish after clay bar or can you just apply a sealant ?
you should really polish it mate.
Don't suppose it was BMW Protect-X that was put on the car by the dealer? Will the decontamination process remove the coating if it's been put on top of the fall out? Do you then have to polish and put a new ceramic coating or wax on the car?
I think it was although they said guard-x decon would not remove this stuff no. it was hard curing rock hard and there were footprints off it everywhere.. all over the glass, the edges of the paintwork where it had not been buffed. who-ever installed it did a woefull job for whatever reason. totally shocking. they applied it on a thick layer of tar as well.
Nice videos man! I would like you to talk about the Autoscrub one or the carpro Polyshave block one! Have you tried these?
Ive tried enough to know clay bar is better for me. the more contamination you have the better clay is.
@@ForensicDetailing allright John! Thanks :)
If the iron particles are falling out, won't they get dragged about if you use a mitt to spread the remover?
some iron will get pulled into the mitt and dragged about... but look at the dirty clay bar.. you grind all that stuff over the surface when you clay... so gently going over some tiny fragments of fallout you cant even see is not a problem.
You mentioned ‘marring’ so does claying a car risk damaging the paint or is it like polishing where your cutting it back?
it scratches the paint yes mate. you have to polishing out the fine scratches.. you wont see the scratches unless you have the right light.
I really need to do this to my beloved Saab, I have always loved looking after my vehicles but these days my hands suffer from arthritis and I find I really struggle, plus I don't have any cover for the car so I'm washing, polishing outside in the elements and therefore I'm extremely time limited to these long processes that the car needs 😢
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@@ForensicDetailing appreciate your knowledge and detailed reviews. Helps us newbies a lot.. 😀
How long can we use a used clay bar? Can we use it again for next detail?
Cut out the bat in 5-8pieces. How meny cars you can do. That depends on the cars. After I don my Mercedes E270 estate I could easy use the clay for at least on more car. But I had also cleaned my car alot. After my friends Skoda I could put it in the bin because that car was nasty. So it's hard to say.
But with the prices on Bilt Hamber it really doesn't matter if it hold 1 or 8cars.
I've wondered Jon if ONR actually does leave residue being as it's got polymers in I think? I actually do use ONR myself as clay lube but I've often wondered about this issue
Optimum said it leaves nothing behind but if that residue dries I can see it so it must be leaving something behind :) but it seems to wipe away.
@@ForensicDetailing OPT Talks about this. Yes, if ONR dries on the surface it will leave what they call "Polymer spots" instead of water spots. They wipe away easily usually. If not, a spot more of ONR reactivates the residue for easy wipe-off. This is what makes ONR such a great drying aide. After rinsing off a hand wash a spray down of ONR at 127:1 right away allows for good lubrication of the drying towel and an increased time to dry since it will prevent water spots. The same is true if using ONR as a clay lube at a higher ratio. If it dries, it is easy to sprits a little and wipe off.
My way to do claying is foam again after the wash. And start claying. Auto Glym foaming car wash is slipery when wet...:D
need those ONR dilution ratios : )
Just watched this as I need to decontaminate my car. Quick question, can you reuse the clay bar again after one use? Do you have to clean it or wash it?
Typically yes
Ahhh sorry ye never got any burgers and chips 😋 now get on wit the work haha 😂 messing great video as always
I have always rinced after a tar removal may have to try just buffing off
Is that a Rover 100 in your picture?
Anyone advise, I have a 1969 Plymouth roadrunner, "Base Clear" painted some 4-5 years ago.. Has a "Sandy" dusty feel in the roof. WHAT size or "Grit"/harshness clay to begin with? Ut's quite contaminated for certain. Thanks all!
Just use the white BH clay m8
3 questions I have not Googled or have but need an definitive answer.
My car is wrapped on the hood and leading edges and has a crematic coating over both the wrap and paint
1) Can you clay the crematic coated wrap (is it worth claying) Using Bilt Hamber Clay
2) Can you clay the crematic coated paint (is it worth claying) If I do use Bilt Hamber Clay
3) Can you recommend a Bilt Hamber polish/wax for the crematic coated wrap and paint one product for both scenario's (It it worth polishing/waxing)
Bonus question
4) Will polishing buffing a crematic coated wrap (using some relevant Bilt Hamber product) improve the gloss/Shine/Finish of the wrap
Thanks M8
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You should organise a little car met so we can all tip up and you can inspect our work 😂
Whats the white clay bar jhon u dint mention it isit soft or medium the white one..
Soft m8
Is the forensic detailing haka the new intro 😂
should be know as C-Day from now on. As posted in group, BH is only clay i use. and you dont need claylube. just water. as for the difference john, soft for regular cleaned cars, and cold day claying, ie winter. medium use for 1st claying and summer. regular for very heavy soiled cars and overspray. Also john, i cut my clay in 1/4 and use 1/4 a car, and even better cost effectiveness!
Can all of this be done on a ceramic coated car?
not without really damaging the coating no.
Got a 10 month old car from the dealer this week. Which clay bar do you recommend from bilt hamber? Don’t wanna scratch the car! It’s in great condition but my OCD tells me to clay it lol
If you clay you must polish. BH white clay mate
@@ForensicDetailing cheers mate
Do you think hand polish can remove marring from clay bars???
Yes but hard work
Is Bilt Hamber white (smoothing, soft) clay safe for ceramic coating? Doesn't remove it ceramic coating?
high mate dont clay on a coating you will degrade it massivly mate.
@@ForensicDetailing Thanks
Very informative, Jon. I've just bought a sunset orange 320i (F, 2018). Question re the colour: "mint" or "minging"?? I love it, but perhaps it is an acquired taste!
All a lot of dealerships are interested in is the marketing aspect of putting a sealant on a vehicle and pleasing the majority who don't know any better. My car had an autoglym package put on the paint when I bought it no bad thing in theory but they'd made an utter mess of the paint with a ten minute grind over with a rotary polisher. Took me half a day with some scholl to get it half decent.
I found the easy way to check for contamination is to use a thin sandwich bag over you hand and run your hand with the bag over the paintwork. You will feel every bit of grit embedded. Far better than using your hand and you don’t deposit skin oil on the paint.
Do you use a portion of clay for the whole car? Or it depends on the level of contamination you've already removed and build up in the clay?
From safety perspective, I'd use one portion for each different panel of the car.
I tend to use a couple of small pieces on an average car 2-3 pucks, when I see it get dirty I know its gonna scratch a bit more even after folding.. but sometimes theres nothing on the cars and the clay is good to use loads more times. i think its personal preference really this.
@@ForensicDetailing BUT AFTER YOU FOLD IT AND USE IT SOME MORE ITS GET MORE DIRT ON IT RIGHT? DO YOU THROW THAT PIECE AWAY OR RINSE IT OFF OR WHAT? I BOUGHT GYEON CLAY BAR 21$ AND CUT IN HALF. FOLDED IT OVER AND USED IT AND THEY WHOLE DAMN BAR WAS DRTY ON BITH SIDES. I GOT USE OUT OF THE BAR AND ITS DIRTY AND BROWN. HOW DOES ONE NOT USE A WHOLE BAR ON A CAR EACH TIME?
Quick question! Can I use a fall out remover / tar remover and NOT claybar the car then hand polish and wax the car if I don’t have the time to claybar and machine polish?
Thanks for the great content btw always look forward to a new video. Only just found out about your channels in the last month. 👍
chemical decon, makes physical decon easier it does not replace it. short answer is not really callum mate. but some people will wash they car.. dry it and spray it with panel wipe or like BH cleanser fluid (which is a bit like a tar and glue) and then wax it. what I cant tell typing this post is how much contamination is on your car.
@@ForensicDetailing thanks for ur reply and time looks like Iv got a long weekend too come! Lol Iv gone and bought the da8 from in2detailing but scared to use it on my new (to me) car.
I struggle with time as I have a 2 year old and no garage to store the car. Thought I could maybe polish/wax the car without causing any damage to the paintwork without claybaring.
Thanks again for your time. Top videos! :-)